tv Inside Politics CNN October 18, 2020 5:00am-6:00am PDT
5:00 am
the coronavirus is surging just about everywhere. >> this is going to be a very tough winter. >> there should be warning bells going off around the country. >> plus the pandemic election effect. early voting is off the charts. >> make sure we get our vote counted today. >> i hate the division. that's not who we are. >> and two weeks out,
5:01 am
republicans are in a panic. >> suburban women, will you please like me? i saved your neighborhood. okay? >> how many of you have been unable to hug your grand kids the last seven months? >> welcome to "inside politics". i'm john king. to our vur es, thank you for theiring your sunday. the numbers tell the coronavirus is surging across america nmpl more than 57,000 new infections reported saturday. more than a half million new u.s. cases added in just the past ten days. the trend line is up and ominous. the president of the united states wants you to ignore the numbers. to ignore the facts. >> vaccines are coming soon, the therapeutics and the cure. >> we're a winner. on the excess mortality, and what we've done has been amazing. we have done an amazing job. we're rounding the corner.
5:02 am
even without the vaccine, we're rounding the corner. we'll see it. >> joe biden's 2020 bet is that you can handle the truth. >> he's living in a dream world. he keeps telling us that this virus is going to disappear like america. my lord. it's not disappearing. in fact, it's on the rise again. it's getting worse as predicted. mishandling the pandemic isn't enough for trump. he's still trying to take away your health care. >> election day is two weeks from tuesday. america are picking its next president right now. more than 22 million ballots cast as records early and mail-in voting are being shatter bid the day. biden is leading if you study the number. but 2016 is a haunting memory for democrats. biden's campaign manager wrote a memo against putting too much
5:03 am
faith in poll numbers. republicaning cle republicans clearly believe the poll numbers. his party is in a panic worrying it will lose not only the white house but the senate and more. >> i'm looking at the possibility of a republican blood bath in the senate. that's why i've never been on the trump train. i think we're staring down the barrel of a blue tsunami. >> the president says thinks or least says he'll shock us again. >> the enthusiasm all over the country is greater. and it was great four years ago. it's far greater right now than it ever was. >> with us this sunday maggie haberman, josh dossey. it's a different campaign but the same question. can the president of the united
5:04 am
states pull it off with 16 weeks to go when all the numbers say it looks bleak? >> look, that's the open question. right? there's two weeks and two days and one more debate to go. and that debate is what the trump folks see as their chance to try to change the arc of the race. if they do, it will be at a time when a large percentage of the voter who is voted in 2016 have already voted this time. just in terms of numbers. so it's not over until it's over. i think it's a mistake some people want to call the race today, but none of the trends are good for the president. and joe biden is not hillary clinton. he has not been in the public eye the same way hillary clinton was over 30 years. he's not a woman, and he's harder for trump to caricature. for all those reasons trump seems to think the strategy is seeing more of turrump. >> joe biden is being cautious
5:05 am
and careful. he says the coronavirus mandates that and is doing debate prep. the president has been running around to states. you see the rallies for the president. and he's trying to prove he's recovered from the coronavirus. does the same approach work? josh, you wrote about it. internal debate within team trump over what to go focus on how and to do it. if you listen to the president, some of it is attacking biden personally. some is about the economy. the candidate can't pick one thing. listen. >> he makes hillary clinton, i call her crooked hillary, as you've possibly heard, look like amateur hour. this election is a choice between a trump superrecovery and a biden depression. they're going to raise your taxes substantially, like quadruple. >> there's a debate should it be
5:06 am
about the economy. should it be try to do what joe biden what they did to hillary clinton, say she's corrupt politicians? the president seems to want the kitchen sink. >> he does. and the president has continued to make the argument about corruption this week. one of the arguments is that biden is a senile old man but some of his advisers said to him your poll numbers among seniors are low. it's a problem for you and you're not helping yourself. you saw this week he tweeted biden for president with a senior citizen home. the president is trying to depict biden as too liberal at times and sometimes he says he's too conservative on issues like crime and policing. there's lots of places where he hasn't figured out how to caricature joe biden. his team tried to push an economic message but that's hard with an unemployment rate of 8 %
5:07 am
or so and you want people to work and you have a country that's not back to normal. it's hard to make the economic message significant. >> and it's harder because he's the incumbent participant. he was a blank slate in 2016 and said i was a great businessman. now there's been four years of him running the government. joe biden is not hillary clinton. that's an important point. if you look at the exit polls from 2016 and go back, hillary clinton won women by 13 points. 19 points for the democrats in the midterms in 2018. 23 points. in the suburbs the president won narrowly but won the suburbs. that's why he's president of the united states. joe biden is up 14 points in the suburbs. as the president tries to plot a comeback, he has more holes to fill, if you will.
5:08 am
>> that's right. and folks suggest they can try to fill it with other segments of the population. they hope to get a rise in his support against black voters and among latino voters. they hope they can have an increase in noncollege educated white men voting for him. that's their plan. it remains to be seen whether that's enough and polling indicates it is not. to your point on seniors, this is where the president's mishandling of the coronavirus over a very long period of time now has damaged him. the briefings he would do at the beginning of the pandemic screaming at reporters and saying he was being unfairly, those frightened seniors, people who watch a lot of television. he did himself no favors and has continued not to including coming out of the hospital and saying i understand why so many of you were scared, he tried to essentially cover up the idea that he had been sick in the first place. and none of this has been to his
5:09 am
help. >> and josh, part of the challenge now is the president is being spent two to one on television by the joe biden. the democrats are flush with cash. the trump campaign pulled it off in 2016. they took money out of florida and put it into other states and trusted the dna of states to be republican. there's so many states where the president needs help right now. can they pull it off again? >> they don't have as much as they would like. they're playing whack a mole. they have certain states where if you believe the polling, their internal polling, they're in trouble. pennsylvania, wisconsin, arizona. there are other places where they look better. north carolina, florida, ohio, states where they're more sure. none of the states are sure fire bets for them. they have places like georgia
5:10 am
where they have to play defense. the president was in macon on friday. they have resources that are pretty right now scant for what they want to do. they need to be in a lot of places all the time. and that's the challenge with 16 days to go. >> we're beginning to see some republicans who think this is lost already. we all lived through 2016. we'll count first and decide who wins. but you see republicans who think they're about to lose trying to separate themselves from the president. listen to ben sass earlier this week. >> at the beginning of the co-vid crisis, he refused to treat it seriously for months. he treated like a news cycle by news cycle pr crisis rather than a multiyear public health challenge. the united states regularly sells out our allies under his leadership. the way he treats women and spends like a dunkin' sailor. >> republicans say the president
5:11 am
is going to lose so they're trying to post a fight. that will be fascinating. in the 16 days left does that disdents in the republican party maybe not in nebraska but in other places is that another complicating factor for the president when you have more and more republicans saying i got a problem here? >> there are a lot of senior republicans who would like to see the president doing more to help. overall, he's creating a climate where it looks as if the republicans are going after each other. republicans in some of the battle grounds running behind the president in their own races need his help. and creating this sense of division does not help. i think there is the point that's very important here which is some of this is looking forward to what this could look like, again, could, could look like on november 4th.
5:12 am
the president i think believes he has a tight fisted grip over his party and people will do whatever he wants. i think you're seeing signs if the president loses are going to move to drop him somewhat fast. >> watch how it plays out. it's going to be fascinating. one more presidential debate this week. grateful for the reporting. how democrats see the final two weeks coming up. next, the coronavirus case is surging and the president's top co-vid adviser says skip the mask. why?! ahhhh! incoming! ahhhahh! i'm saved! water tastes like, water. so we fixed it. mio it's a dark, lonely place. this is art inspired by real stories of people living with bipolar depression. emptiness.
5:13 am
a hopeless struggle. the lows of bipolar depression can disrupt your life and be hard to manage. latuda could make a real difference in your symptoms. latuda was proven to significantly reduce bipolar depression symptoms, and in clinical studies, had no substantial impact on weight. now i'm feeling connected. empowered. latuda is not for everyone. call your doctor about unusual mood changes, behaviors or suicidal thoughts. antidepressants can increase these in children, teens, and young adults. elderly dementia patients on latuda have an increased risk of death or stroke. call your doctor about fever, stiff muscles, and confusion, as these may be life-threatening, or uncontrollable muscle movements as these may be permanent. these are not all the serious side effects. this is where i want to be. talk to your doctor and ask if latuda could make the difference you've been looking for in your bipolar depression symptoms. if latuda could make the difference you've been women with metastatic webreast cancer,.... ...standing in the struggle. hustling through the hurt. asking for science, not sorrys.
5:14 am
our time... ...for more time... ...has come. living longer is possible- and proven in women taking kisqali plus fulvestrant or a nonsteroidal aromatase inhibitor. kisqali is the only treatment in its class with proven overall survival results in 2 clinical trials. helping women live longer with hr+, her2- metastatic breast cancer. kisqali was also significantly more effective at delaying disease progression... ...versus a nonsteroidal aromatase inhibitor or fulvestrant alone. kisqali can cause lung problems or an abnormal heartbeat, which can lead to death. it can cause serious skin reactions, liver problems, and low white blood cell counts that may result in severe infections. tell your doctor right away if you have new or worsening symptoms, including breathing problems, cough, chest pain, a change in your heartbeat, dizziness... ...yellowing of the skin or eyes, dark urine, tiredness, loss of appetite, abdomen pain, bleeding, bruising, fever, chills,... ...or other symptoms of an infection, a severe or worsening rash, are or plan to become pregnant, or breastfeeding.
5:15 am
avoid grapefruit during treatment. kisqali is not approved for use with tamoxifen. it's our time... ...to continue to shine. because we are the thrivers. ask your doctor about kisqali, the only treatment in its class proven to help women live longer in 2 clinical trials. to stir that fire, university of phoenix is awarding up to one million dollars in scholarships through this month. see what scholarship you qualify for at phoenix.edu. (fisherman vo)ce) how do i register to vote?ential election... see what scholarship you qualify for hmm!.. hmm!.. hmm!.. (woman on porch vo) can we vote by mail here? (grandma vo) you'll be safe, right? (daughter vo) yes! (four girls vo) the polls! voted! (grandma vo) go out and vote! it's so important! (man at poll vo) woo!
5:16 am
5:17 am
coronavirus is mocking masks again. the views of the doctor run counter to the verdict of public health experts and his green light for recklessness comes at a dangerous moment. let's look at the latest numbers. if you look at the trend map, 29 states red and orange in the states trending in the wrong direction. 29 of them. deep red, 50% more co-vid cases compared to a week ago. . 29 states trending in the wrong direction. in 19 the holding steady. only 2 states reporting fewer than a week ago. the country is trending in the wrong direction. if you look at the case curve, trending in the wrong direction. first peak, second peak, the top of the third peak uncertain. close to 70 new infections on friday. the red line tells you all you need to know. we're heading back up in the
5:18 am
ballpark of 60,000 new infections a day. nine of the last 11 days, 50 plus. you see the line heading back up. the line is heading up because states are setting records. 21 states reporting records in the past week of their average new cases. 21 states. this is not around the final turn. this is trouble. you see it laid out on the map here. in terms of regions going up across the country, the midwest trending up. the northeast trending up. lower case counts because they pushed the curve down early. the south plateau, trending up. the west trending up slowly. why? this is why this is happening. the deeper the blue and gray, the higher the positivity rate. 26% in idaho. 29% in nevada. 27 % in south dakota. double digits in the southeast. florida, alabama and mississippi. higher percentage of positivity now means more cases today. a higher percentage of cases
5:19 am
today means more cases tomorrow. let's talk to the dean of the brown university of public health and an emergency room physician and researcher at brown. doctor, i want to start with dr. scott atlas in the middle of this, in the middle of this going back up in the ballpark of 60,000 cases a day when dr. anthony fauci says wear a mask and redfield says wear a mask, scott atlas tweets out yesterday, masks? no. masks? no. is there any doubt about the science here? >> good morning, john. thank you for having me on. from the beginning of this pandemic, we faced two enemies. the virus which is infectious and deadly and a campaign of disinformation that has made it so much hard tore fight the pandemic. and it's really striking to have the top doctor in the white house be a source of that disinformation.
5:20 am
the evidence on masks is pretty clear at this point. they help. they help a lot. the debate is are they -- will they bring the whole pandemic to an end or end up being an important part of the solution. no serious person is debating whether they are an important part of fighting this pandemic or not. >> you say no serious person, but a person who has the ear of the united states at a time the president could be talking truth to the american people. i want to bring up the issue here to hospitalizations. this is the business you live in every day, and even in places like the northeast which shoved down the curve sees we're trickling back up again. here comes the bend again. hospitalizations starting to go up. i'll go below and look at the death. you can tell the death line has been the number of rates. they're horrific. you see all the red above the blue. that means the trend line is going to start going back up. what is the situation now in emergency rooms like yours and across the country getting worse
5:21 am
again. right? >> yeah. john, it is absolutely getting worse again. my colleagues across the country are sharing stories of their ers being overwhelmed, their icus being full. running out of nursing staff because their nurses are getting sick. we're facing the same situation we're in in april and may in the northeast and in july in the south. and the trouble now is we're seeing it literally across the country. so, of course, north dakota, south dakota, wisconsin are the worst of it right now. but we're hearing similar stories from colleagues across the country including here in the northeast. we're starting to see hospitalizations tick up. we are seeing people who are much sicker than they have been since that first wave in the northeast in the spring. >> and doctor, from the beginning you've been calling for testing and more testing as much as possible. first is positivity right. if you look at the national
5:22 am
positivity rate, above 6%. 6 .2 %. the average is not there, but you're seeing more days above 6%. that's bad. everyone from the beginning says get it to five and try to shove it down to stop community spread. i showed the map of the double digits in the states we talked about this for months getting colder. but the issue is when you look at the -- there's more tests. right? more tests. is there enough testing? the president says we're getting more positives because we have more tests. is that fair? what's driving the cases is more infections. >> 6% nationally is bad. you have to remember california is at about 2.5%. new york is 1%. these are big states and if california and new york are that low, that means there are lots of places in the country at 15% or 30%. and the key thing your viewers need to know is when you're at 10% or 20 %, you're missing most of the cases.
5:23 am
i suspect north dakota is probably missing 8 0% of all infections. you can't stop the outbreak if you miss most of the cases. >> in that context, thanksgiving and halloween is coming up. dr. fauci says please, i know you have coronavirus fatigue. be careful. >> my children are in three separate states throughout the country, and in order for them to get here, they would all have to go to an airport, get on a plane, travel with public transportation. they themselves because of their concern for me and my age have decided they are not going to come home for thanksgiving. even though all three of them want very much to come home for thanksgiving. >> how do you balance the urgency of the count going back up with the coronavirus fatigue many people have? >> john, this is the impossible situation that we're in this fall. we don't have to be in it. had we followed the basic
5:24 am
precautions earlier, we could have been in a situation where we could have seen our faenls for thanksgiving. but unfortunately, given the rising case counts across the country, it is most likely unsafe to get together with elderly relatives for thanksgiving. if you are going to do it, do it outside for a very short period of time, and not including food. get together with people who are close by you who don't have to travel and see each other outside. and for a halloween, i'm a parent myself. i have young children who are looking forward to trick or treating. we're going to try to do it safely. we have cloth masks and social distancing. staying in stable pods of the same kids they see every day at school. and that's what our governor is recommending here in rhode island and what i hope americans across the country do. no big parties. no huge groups of kids going house to house. we have to maintain some sense of normalcy, but we have to do it with extra precautions in place given that this virus unfortunately is still spreading like wildfire among us.
5:25 am
>> grateful for your insights, especially leaning on you a lot as we start to go sadly back up. doctors, thank you so much. back to the campaign. it's deja vu for the democrats. a lead over donald trump with two weeks to go. plus what would losing mean? >> can you imagine if i lose? my whole lifer, what am i going to go? i'm going to say i lost to the worst candidate in the history of politics. i'm not going to feel so good. maybe i'll have to leave the country. i don't know. >> i hope that it doesn't say that we are as racially, ethnically and religiously at odds with one another as it appears the president wants us to be. to higher levels of clean. ♪ ♪
5:26 am
♪ ♪ the expertise that helps keep hospitals clean, is helping keep businesses clean too. look for the ecolab science certified seal. >> tech: every customer has their own safelite story. this couple was on a camping trip... ...when their windshield got a chip. they drove to safelite for a same-day repair. and with their insurance, it was no cost to them. >> woman: really? >> tech: that's service you can trust. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪
5:27 am
what?! ♪ whatever you have at home, knorr sides can turn nutritious veggies into mouthwatering meals. ♪ veggies taste amazing with knorr. after gutting protectionsf rejecfor our air and water, and putting us at risk, isn't it time to wipe things clean? joe biden has led the way, with a bold plan that protects our environment while creating new jobs. and tougher rules for clean air and water. so all of us can live healthier lives. it's time to get back on track. lcv victory fund is responsible for the content
5:28 am
of this advertising. aso the national eye instituteon did 20 years of clinical studies on a formula only found in preservision. if it were my vision, i'd ask my doctor about preservision. it's the most studied eye vitamin brand. if it were my vision, i'd look into preservision. only preservision areds2 contains the exact nutrient formula recommended by the nei to help reduce the risk of moderate to advanced amd progression. i have amd. it is my vision so my plan includes preservision.
5:30 am
16 days to election day. can donald trump change this map and find a path to victory meaning a path to 270 electoral votes. right now lopsided for joe biden. 290 electoral votes leading his way. president trump needs to engineer a huge comeback. look at the tossup states. let's assume they all voted republican. they did in 2016. even if trump won iowa, ohio, north carolina, georgia, and won florida, even if he swept the tossup states it would not be enough. joe biden would have the lead. donald trump's hill is steeper than steep because joe biden is
5:31 am
competitive in every one of these states. and yet, democrats are nervous, warning against complacency, worried they have seen this movie before. >> can you find a viable path to victory for donald trump? it's difficult because state of play. we have hillary clinton at 307 electoral votes. donald trump at 179. it takes 270 to win. can trump turn it around, but it would be hard. >> with us this sunday, lisa of the new york times and asma holland. that's creepy when you look at the flashback. that was four years ago on this day. the question is the biden campaign sent out this email from the campaign manager yesterday to supporters and donors saying don't believe the numbers. don't believe the numbers. one of the interesting things about this race that makes a difference is the stability. if you go back to joe biden's
5:32 am
lead, this is wall street journal polling, 12 point lead at the beginning of the year. 9 point lead now if you play it out there. stability in the lead. if you look at the biggest most important voting group in america, women voters, this is the gender gap. it was big at the beginning of the year. it's even bigger now. there are comparisons to 2016 but there are big differences including the stability of the biden lead. >> that's right. i mean, i think for a long time they are look at some sort of inflection, trying to see there would be an inflection point, and the story line of the summer leading into the fall has been the remarkable consistency of the polls. that being said, i also think there are key demographic groups that joe biden seems to be doing better with than hillary clinton was ever able to do, and chief among them is white voters.
5:33 am
we recently did a poll that showed joe biden winning with white voters. that's a phenomenal statistic if true, because no democrat in recent presidential history has been able to win white voters. i hear the same in reporting when i was out there doing interviews with young disaluged black and brown voters. they understand the stakes are different than 2016. >> that's different. you have an incumbent president in the middle of a pandemic, and the american people have cast a decisive verdict. they don't like what they've seen. and joe biden tries to almost send the message, i'm not flashy, but i'm steady. listen to part of his message. when the president speaks, you must be able to trust it. >> the words of a president matter, no matter if they're
5:34 am
good, different. when the president doesn't wear a mask or makes fun of folks like me when i was wearing a mask for a long time, then people say well, it mustn't be that important. >> i always joke my first campaign was 19 88. they said it's not about ideology, it's about competence. i guess he was 30 years ahead of his time. >> i think that's the message of joe biden since the beginning. he's cast his candidacy as a return to normalcy. voters don't have to think about what's coming out of the white house every day and they can escape this chaos of this administration, a tone that feeling that's only escalated in the midst of this extraordinary pandemic. but i also think it's important to remember something else about 2016. that then as you point out, donald trump was, of course, running against hillary clinton. and when you look at the numbers, you had a race between two to the most divisive polarizing candidates the country had seen in a long time.
5:35 am
that is not this race. i mean, i've talked to people who have run focus groups for both candidates. those who did for hillary clinton recounted voters giving a torture and sort of explanation of her personality and whether they could vote for her and even if they didn't like trump, they felt like maybe hillary clinton had been in the public eye in a decisive way for too long. and others say people don't know a lot about joe biden but they like him. he has a very different brand, a very different reputation in the american public. that's helping him in this moment. >> you both spent time talking to people who drive american politics. women. women are 53% of the electorate nationally. it will be around that number, higher in some states as we get through it. also this is from a piece you did. i think we trust him after seeing what he's done. that's a lot of our reservations. i don't know that we like him, but our goal isn't to be liked,
5:36 am
it's to be respected. this is from a trump supporter. this is from -- my children have grown and developed more than he has in regards to the way he speaks to other people and the way he speaks about other people. when you talk to women who why -- the suburban revolt against 2018 changed america. will it change again? >> you know, i was out in michigan. i specifically spent time in two key congressional districts that flipped. what i heard from suburban women, donald trump was pleading to support him, they said they were awakened to politics in 2018. many of them are engaged more so this election cycle. i think where donald trump
5:37 am
maintains support in the suburbs is among a key core base of women who say we don't like how he speaks, but we're still going to back him. the challenge for him is that is less than 50% of the public and really at this point, he needs to be expanding the base. he has shown no signs specifically among suburban women he's capable of doing that. >> and loo lisa, you have a johnson supporter from 16, a biden supporter now. you write about other disaffected democrats or independents who couldn't vote for hillary clinton who can vote for biden. biden may have a pool of new voters too. >> when we look at the numbers for people who voted third party or didn't vote at all in the 2016 election, a lot of what we're seeing is those people are in higher numbers going to joe biden. but i do think as you point out, the suburbs will be key here. republicans have really never
5:38 am
won a presidential race in recent history without winning the suburbs and part of what's happening here is the suburbs are changing. i think donald trump when he tries to talk about suburban housewives and law and order and win back the areas of the country, the suburbs, he doesn't quite have a sense of what they are now. they're diverse. they're the bulk of america. these are areas that have followed a lot of the demographic trends hurting the republican party in the long-term. and so the question is not only whether donald trump will lose these areas and perhaps cost himself the presidency, but whether republicans can win them back or are these voters lost for the republican party for a very long time? >> that's one of the fascinating questions in the next 16 days and beyond. grateful for the reporting and the insights. up next a global perspective. america almost alone. in a global pandemic, most other leaders respect science and they acknowledge facts. how can i make change in my community?
5:39 am
how can i become a congresswoman? what do i need to study to become a senator? could i change things more at the state level or the federal level? do i have to be mayor before i become governor? why aren't there more women in government? change begins with a question. so citi foundation is supporting girl scouts as they empower young leaders through civic education to help create a better tomorrow. i will send out an army to find you in the middle of the darkest night it's true, i will rescue you oh, i will rescue you
5:41 am
this administration and senate republicans want to overturn laws requiring insurance companies to cover people with pre-existing conditions. they're rushing a lifetime appointment to the supreme court to change the law through the courts. 70% of americans want to keep protections for pre-existing conditions in place. tell our leaders in washingtn to stop playing games with our healthcare.
5:42 am
this is a global pandemic and as a result a global leadership test. new zealand's prime minister instituted an early coronavirus lockdown and her labor party was awarded with a landslide in national election. several leaders this past week imposed new restrictions. >> we've been -- i'm convinced what we do or do not do in the coming weeks will be decisive for how we get through the pandemic. the infectious curve is going up. >> no one wants to have to implement these measures which damage local businesses, curtail individual freedom and impose significant strains on people's mental health, but these decisions were necessary because of the rate of increase. >> notice the chancellor and the prime minister acknowledged the co-vid spike, meaning they acknowledged the facts. president trump ignores them.
5:43 am
>> the lockdowns are doing tremendous damage to these democrat-run states. the cure cannot be worse than the problem. >> the vaccine will end the pandemic, but it's ending anyway. it's going to peter out and it's going to end. >> christian amanpour is with us. when you listen to the president of the united states and other world leaders, i would say it's mars and venus, but they are in the same galaxy. this is a parallel universe. >> i didn't see the data to the last president trump sound bite but clearly it's not going away, and what we are in europe in the midst of the second wave which everybody warned us about at the beginning. and we haven't yet got to the flu season. yes, europe and parts of the world are experiencing a big
5:44 am
spike because what happened was at the very beginning they really did take very harsh lockdown measures and you saw it flatten quickly across most of europe. and then you saw what now looks to be a rather early and scatter shot lifting to the lockdown. they were desperate to get the v-shaped economy. people were desperate. over the summer you had socializing and you had travel for vacations. at the end of the summer, kids going back to university. that's a big source of the spike. and now you have the leaders making their comments about how they need to take very careful measures in restricting boris johnss is all over the place. he doesn't want to be a national lockdown. people don't understand his three tier system and regional restrictions. that's a problem. and also hospitals across europe are seeing an up tick in the number of cases going into hospital. >> and it's an interesting moment. we're 16 days away from the
5:45 am
american election. the president always says we're the envy of the world. we're not. we're leading in cases and leading in deaths. his response has been criticized. people around the world seem to agree. this is from a poll, how has the united states done a good job in dealing with the coronavirus? 20% of the people in spain say that. 16% in the uk. 15% in france. only 9% in germany. you know this better than i from your program and conversations but my inbox from diplomats and others around the world is they keep asking what the hell is going on in the united states of america? >> yes, and if you see the latest polls on the international view of the united states, it's based around co-vid. and over the summer and over the spring they were at the lowest levels since the height of the iraq war which was when the last time america was unpopular abroad. that was a big deal. i think it's interesting to see the levels there. you see the germany only 9% thought the u.s. was doing a great job. that's because of the large
5:46 am
european economies. germany did the best at the beginning. it had a very sophisticated test and trace. it had icu beds and surplus and medicine and beds and resources it dealt with it strongly. people were saying hang on a second. look at the catastrophe happening in the u.s. what does it have in i think a 4% of the world's population and 25% of the world's cases. so it was pretty dramatic to watch. and i think leadership here is very important to focus on and you've been doing so at the beginning of the program. you mentioned correctly the prime minister of new zealand has been reelected. that's because of competence. she's eliminated the virus. that's a technical word. boris johnson has not done such a good job and his own party members consider him the second worst cabinet minister in the uk and his polls are in the -- i
5:47 am
was going to use a word i shouldn't, but his polls are pretty low, below where they would like to be right now. it's all because of competence. and really, people we're being told by public health officials now in the united states and around the world, need also to cooperate. they need to wear the masks. they need to socially distance and need not to be jammed up against each other indoors. there are fairly simple things individuals can do that actually make a difference. and one can't overemphasize that enough. >> when people in your program ask about the response in the united states, what comes up the most? >> i think what comes up the most is this lack of reverence or lack of respect for facts and for science. lack of respect for doctors and nurses who up until now have been held up as the most respected professions. wherever you go people want to be a doctor or nurse or teacher. they want to be a scientist, but yet, these professionals who are
5:48 am
giving their best advice are being disrespected by very large part of society, and that's something that in most parts of europe, most parts of the world including places like vietnam and south korea and other places, asia has this under control. they have respected the science and they have respected those professionals. people can't understand why masks have become in england as well, in the uk, which has its own populous problem here, have become such a bone of political contention. and the notion that the united states and britain believe themselves to be exceptional nations has also backfired in the view of a lot of people around the world. that it can't happen to us. we can't be in such a terrible situation. it will magically go away. well, we've seen that it takes actual action to make it go away. >> we have seen that and we're now going through it both on your side of the atlantic and ours. back up the hill. back up to another uncertain
5:49 am
peak. . long lines for early voting and yes, lots of lawsuits. why?! ahhhh! incoming! ahhhahh! i'm saved! water tastes like, water. so we fixed it. mio >> tech: every customer has their own safelite story. this couple was on a camping trip... ...when their windshield got a chip. they drove to safelite for a same-day repair. and with their insurance, it was no cost to them. >> woman: really? >> tech: that's service you can trust. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ joe biden was raised with middle class values. joe doesn't need to be the center of attention. or see himself on tv.
5:50 am
he has always focused on getting the job done. joe led us out of the 2008 recession, and increased health coverage for millions. as president, joe will focus on getting us out of our crises. he'll listen to experts, work across the aisle. and put the american people first. ff pac is responsible for the content of this ad. to stir that fire, university of phoenix is awarding up to one million dollars in scholarships through this month. see what scholarship you qualify for at phoenix.edu. uber and lyft are like every big guy i've ever brought down. prop 22 doesn't "help" their drivers-- it denies them benefits. 22 doesn't help women.
5:51 am
it actually weakens sexual harassment laws, which are meant to protect them. uber and lyft aren't even required to investigate sexual harassment claims. i agree with the la times: no on 22. uber and lyft want all the power. so, show them the real power is you. vote no on prop 22. but that's tough to do on a fixed income. i'd be hit with a tax penalty for moving to another county, so i'm voting 'yes' on prop 19. it limits property taxes and lets seniors transfer their home's current tax base to another home that's closer to family or medical care. being closer to family is important to me. how about you? voting 'yes' on prop 19.
5:52 am
athletelection day is 16 da away. you see voters waiting in line. early voting records are shattered. more than 22 million ballots cast already climbing toward 3 million in texas and 1.2 million in georgia and 1 million early votes cast in north carolina. >> how long have you waited in line? >> about two hours now. yeah. >> what do you think about that? >> it sucks but, you know, i'd rather be out here doing my civic duty than not. i don't trust the whole mail-in voting thing so i will be here and i will sign it and make sure it goes where it needs to go.
5:53 am
>> just about every state is doing something new because of the coronavirus pandemic. because of that, there are mounting legal challenges. more than 3506 cases making their way through state and federal courts. many of them attempts by president trump and republican allies to limit the use of mail-in ballots or to make it harder to drop off a ballot, say, if you don't trust the mail. "the new york times" details an emerging trend. eight cases victories for democrats and voting rights group at the federal district court level have been reversed. jim, it's an important trend because those of us who follow this administration know that appeals court is where the president is focused on. many trump judges on these courts are, it's not all trump judges in these cases but voting rights groups and democrats are finding there is a road block out there, right? >> yeah. that is true. john, president trump has done more to appoint judges to that
5:54 am
bench. any president in more than 40 years. only jimmy carter outpaced him and that seems to be making a difference. it's not partisan decisions. it's idealology more hostile voting rights lawyers would say toward traditional siverlcivil >> more cases and they range all over the place. arizona is suing to extend a deadline. you voted by mail and your ballot is challenged it allows you to come in for a few extra days to try to correct the record. other are suing over the drop box issues and fixing mistakes on mail bolts. will votes have clarity before the election day or carries over after election day and causes a mess? >> unfortunately, i think a little bit of the both and makes your head trying to get through the cases. what this is all about is, yes, ease of access to voting and the
5:55 am
time that the election officials will have to count ballots. what democratic are worried about this litigation will go up to the wire so you're not going to know. right now, you have to get a ballot in at a certain time but the mail might not get it there in time to be counted. they want people to understand this is a moving target and why they want everyone to vote early so so that is happening from the democratic side. >> democratic side somewhat shifted. you see democrats saying if you can get in line and vote early in person. if you look so far democrats are outpacing republicans in early voting. we have to be careful here. the polls tell us, most democrats vote for biden and most republicans are voting for trump. we don't know just because if you look at the 54% of preelection ballots cast you look at the lopsided advantage. look at 2020. democrats have a huge advantage. 2016 it was a much smaller democratic advantage. we cannot be certain all of the democrats are voting for biden
5:56 am
but democrats seem to believe early on the message have a plan and vote early is helping. >> that also focuses the litigation. the litigation is very much about those what tend to be overindexed democratic votes and what the president are going after in the mail. early voting is something the democrats have mustered their organizational forces around' seeing it in spades right now. >> in terms of this likely to go to supreme court is the lawyers you're working with on these cases worry that some of this will not be decided by election day which adds to the confusion for people out there? >> i think primarily in terms of after election day. right now what we are seeing is a setting of the rules. and that, yes, then these cases will go to the supreme court. now it already had a balance that they viewed the democratic lawyers viewed as hostile it their position. now presumably will be more so
5:57 am
with amy coney barrett. >> bush v gore in steroids could be in europe future. grateful for your time today, jim, but for the months you're spending on this important issue. that is for us on "inside politics." up next a busy "state of the union" with jake tapper. here is a look at who will be his guests. when it comes to beautiful hair,
5:58 am
why are we always shown the same thing? where's my bounce? my glamour? my fire? all hair is beautiful. these dove shampoo and conditioners are custom formulated for different hair types. find the right dove care for your hair. aso the national eye instituteon did 20 years of clinical studies on a formula only found in preservision. if it were my vision, i'd ask my doctor about preservision. it's the most studied eye vitamin brand. if it were my vision, i'd look into preservision. only preservision areds2 contains the exact nutrient formula recommended by the nei to help reduce the risk of moderate to advanced amd progression. i have amd. it is my vision so my plan includes preservision.
6:00 am
countdown. as millions of early voters weigh in the two presidential candidates are set for one last debate. >> this is the most important election of our lifetimes. >> can you imagine if i lose? >> is there still time to change the trajectory of the vote? third wave? new coronavirus cases reach their highest level since july as health experts warn americans must buckle down to sfit tfight spread. what do you need to do to be safe? hail mary. the president level smears and puts his own supporters health at risk. >> franklin you have to open your state up. >> now his lagging
292 Views
Uploaded by TV Archive on
