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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com hello and welcome to our viewers joining us here in the united states and all around the world. you're watching "cnn newsroom" and i'm rosemary church. just ahead, a wild weekend of campaigning, president donald trump looks toward the election packing swing state rallies with mostly maskless supporters. this as coronavirus cases rise across the united states. plus europe works to fight its second wave of covid-19, but some leaders are pushing back on more lockdowns and restrictions. and we hear from russia's opposition leader on surviving a poison attack, what he has to
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say to the u.s. president about it. we will have a live report from moscow on that. good to have you with. well, the u.s. enters the home stretch of the presidential election campaign. amid spiraling coronavirus cases, hospitalizations and deaths. and this as experts say the predicted cold weather surge in here. nevertheless, president donald trump spent the weekend holding rallies in key states, some of which are also covid hotspots on the heels of his wisconsin appearance, the same day the state posted a record number of new daily cases, mr. trump went to nevada. and that state just reported its biggest one-day jump in new
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infections since mid-august. look at how tightly people are packed together at this carson city rally. people people are wearing masks, but not mr. trump. he's not wearing a mask at this las vegas church appearance either, nor other white house officials with him. the country's top infectious disease doctor thinks the president's refusal to mask up is about image. >> he hasn't worn masks consistently. he's pushed back against what you've said. >> i think that's less antiscience and more after i statement. >> what kind of a statement. >> a statement of strength, we're strong, we don't need a mask, that kind of thing. he sometimes equates wearing a mask with weakness. >> does that make sense that to you? >> no, it doesn't. of course not. >> but the mixed messaging doesn't stop there. twitter removed a tweet from white house coronavirus task force adviser scott atlas for spreading misinformation. the tweet read, masks work?
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no. twitter said the message put lives at risk. the u.s. health secretary was asked about the contradictory message. let's take a listen. >> we have it in our individual control. it's our ticket to be reconnected to education, to worship, to work to health care and also to our public and civic life, chuck. wear a face covering when you can't be socially distant, chuck. >> so, why is that message so difficult for the president? >> i think it's a difficult message for all western democracies. we're seeing in europe, people are tired the american people have given so much. >> ryan noble social securis ish the trump campaign. >> reporter: president trump is in the middle of a busy campaign schedule, a campaign schedule that's picked up since he was diagnosed with the coronavirus pandemic. the president traveling to key states including florida,
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georgia, north carolina, michigan, wisconsin and ended the weekend here in nevada. it was at that event in nevada he talked about the pandemic and ridiculed some of the scientists who have been giving him advice when it relates to the virus. take a listen. >> if i listened totally to the scientists, we would right now have a country that would be a massive depression instead of -- we're like a rocketship. take a look at the numbers. and that's despite the fact that we have, like, five or six of these democrats keeping their states closed because they're trying to hurt us on november 3rd. but the numbers are so good anyway. they would be even better. >> reporter: and this torrid campaign pace is expected to continue, the president expected the make stops in pennsylvania, north carolina. and he'll travel on thursday for the final debate of the 2020 campaign. ryan nobles cnn carson city, nevada. >> also out on the trail, democratic candidate joe biden, who is running a very different style of campaign than president
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trump in style and substance. arlette saenz tells us what biden's been saying and where he's going next. >> joe biden travelled here to durham, north carolina, has in person early voting is underway in the state. the former vice president hosting a socially distanced drive-in style rally, as he encouraged his supporters to make a plan to vote in the final weeks of this election. joe biden once again hammered away at the president for his response to the coronavirus pandemic as he believes this is a central issue in these final weeks before the election. and joe biden also talked about how the country needs to overcome division and how he is the president who will look out for all americans. take a listen. >> folks, as my coach used to say in college, it's go time. i'm running as a proud democrat, but i will govern as an american president.
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no red states, no blue states, just the united states. i promise you. i'll work as hard for those who don't support me as those who did. >> north carolina is one of those states that president trump won back in 2016 that joe biden is trying to flip in these final two weeks before the election. and on monday, his running mate kamala harris is returning to the campaign trail. she will campaign in the state of florida. this comes after the campaign had suspended her travel for a few days after two members of her travel team tested positive for coronavirus. kamala harris tested negative for coronavirus on sunday and will resume campaigning on monday. and later in the week on wednesday, perhaps the biggest democratic political surrogate out there is hitting the campaign trail for joe biden, president obama will campaign in philadelphia, his first in-person campaign appearance as he's making that pitch for his former vp.
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arlet arlette saenz, cnn, durham, north carolina. >> joining me now is the chief clinical officer at providence health system. thank you for being with us and for all that you do, doctor. >> thank you so much for having me, rosemary. >> the u.s. is averaging 5,500 covid cases a day with masks, the major weapon we all have to fight this virus, yet we are seeing the doctor now advising president trump, scott atlas, tweeting that masks don't work. twitter took his tweet down because of the risk of false content leading to harm. this reveals a lot of the president's thinking. what do you say to those who question the science behind masks. >> my advice would be to stick with the science and the science is vetted by the experts at the cdc. something we've seen with this pandemic and one of the reasons why we have concerns about the national leadership around the pandemic is that we need to let
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science speak and not take one person's opinion and amplify that. and that's what's happened. the mixed messaging, you know, the cdc saying one thing, which is where the expertise lies, and then a belief, for some reason -- i still don't understand it -- that counters what the science says being promoted by another arm of the government really is incredibly complicated for people to tease their way through. believe the cdc. >> absolutely, absolutely. it's confusing people, though, nonetheless. and of course the irony is that if president trump asked his supporters to wear masks, they would do just that. and those actions could very well increase his chances of re-election, but he refuses to do it for whatever reason. what impact would a national mask mandate have on the united states if he called for one right now? >> well, you know, it would have to slow down the spread of the virus. because what masks do is they
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inhibit the person wearing from it spreading the germ to other people. and they also ensure that if you do get the virus, you get a lower viral load because if you breathe it in, you get a less severe likely -- a less severe bout of the disease because you inhale less viral particles. and because of that, it slows the spread and it makes the condition less bad in people who get it. so, i would believe that if we were able to have everybody wear a mask, we could within the span of a couple of weeks really get our level of infection much, much better than where it is today. it's the easy way for us to help getting control of this pandemic. >> and i loved how you explained that because really by wearing the mask, if you do get it, that's almost like getting the vaccination, isn't it? >> well, it might not be like getting the vaccination. we would prefer the people not to get the disease at all, so don't wear a mask and then try to inhale the virus.
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better to not get the germ at all. but if you do get the germ, better to get a lower viral load. >> we are seeing the current autumn surge in cases that experts warned us about, yet we're seeing more reckless behavior at these trump rallies, no masks or social distancing. dr. fauci said sunday night this is exactly why the president's covid diagnosis came as no surprise to him. how concerned are you when you watch these rallies, and how might they impact where the current surge in cases is going? >> i am very concerned, rosemary. i mean, this kind of behavior -- and it's so unnecessary. it's easy to wear a mask. it's not that hard. we do it in hospitals. we do it in medical clinics all day long every day. it really is not that hard. it's such a simple solution, and all it would take is the president and all of the leadership in government to be aligned on saying wear a mask, you'll protect yourself. we would save countless lives.
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so, i am disheartened when that's not the message that comes across. >> and dr. fauci also says that he intends to take a covid-19 vaccine once it's approved. and of course if there's sufficient medical data to support that. how important is it that he gets that message out? >> well, it's really important that he gets that message out and that the rest of the scientific community and the physicians and the doctors and the nurses get that vaccine in the same way that we do flu vaccines, right, that virtually erin gets the flu vaccine so that we aren't the vectors that spread the flu on to others because we take care of people with the flu. dr. fauci needs to do that not only to inspire others, but so does every doctor and nurse in the nation once it's proven safe and effective so we can speak not only with our heads but our hearts that we've done it to
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protect the public. if we can do it, so can you. we want to be the change we want to see. >> important messages there. always a pleasure to talk with you. many thanks. >> thank you so much. and still ahead, tracking coronavirus around the world. we will take you live to manchester, england, a city taking a stand against tougher restrictions. that's just one location where cnn is covering the pandemic. and while some countries struggle with a surge, others see cause for hope. do stay with us. we're back in just a moment.
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well now to the latest on the spread of the coronavirus worldwide. malaysia announced a new record high in daily cases on sunday. that's the country's highest spike since the outbreak began. in europe, surging case numbers are proving hard to control. later today, ireland will become the latest country to announce tough new measures. italy's prime minister introduced title rules including
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limit on restaurants and ban on festivals. the manchester area is close to running out of icu capacity. in france, authorities announced nearly 30,000 new cases on sunday. most major french cities are now under a nightly surveillancurfe. selma adahl disease is covering. selma, let's start with you. tensions rising among local leaders in the midst of new covid restrictions. what's the latest on this, particularly with this revelation of icu capacity reaching its highest? >> well, rosemary, we finally have a break through after days of a stand off between greater manchester authorities and downing street. the mayor did have constructive talks with a member of prime
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minister boris johnson's government on sunday. we've heard from the housing secretary that a greater financial package will be offered to manchester to help them deal with the second blow. let's deal with the debate. the major has argued this is a risk versus reward calculation for the city. he says that under these limited regional restrictions, the risk to local businesses is too high in exchange for the reward terms of how much he would be able to bring in the infection rates down. that's why he's called for a government lockdown. the call has been a resounding no. short of that the major is negotiating a better financial deal for his city. he's called for 80% furlough scheme, that means that 80% of wages for those affected would be paid by the government.
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we are expecting talks to be resumed today and a settlement to be reached. in all this, it's important to remember manchester is just one city. imagine having to negotiate these regional restrictions town by town, city by city. that's the challenge here, rosemary. >> yeah, and so many others as well. melissa, let's go to you now. france is seeing record covid cases across the country despite a curfew being in place and more to come, of course. what's the latest to come on this. >> it's now been four days of daily rises of 25,000 new cases. and of course that is way above what the french president has said the system can sustain. he wants to get us back. it's very much the kind of conversation that's been happening in france. ever since the french government devolved back to covid, it's meant a lot of mayors and local authorities have pushed back
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over the restrictions. not least the curfews. you have to be at home and everything is shot beyond 9:00 p.m. or you can face a fine if you were. you don't have a document explaining why your outing is exceptional and necessary. what it means is for the restaurant sector that had so successfully pushed back to are the them close just a few weeks ago in the maximum alert places like in paris. they're going to suffer as well. 9:00 p.m. means it's going to be huge losses to their businesses. that is something they fought back again. it is all about the system, the health care system's ability to cope here in paris. we're at 46.8% of icu beds taken up by covid patients. practically all of the icu beds now just shy of all of them are taken up by covid patients. and of course that is what has to stop. still these curfews have now
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been in place since friday night at midnight. it's going to take some time for them to show some kind of effect on the ruses in daily numbers. in the meantime, those record rises will of course in the next couple of weeks have an effect on the icus and all eyes very much on what's going to happen there. >> absolutely, melissa bell. thank you both for joining us, bring us oup to date on those situations. well, there were scenes of anger in the czech capitol on sunday as thousands of people protested new coronavirus restrictions. the large crowd gathered in the old town square. the demonstrations started peacefully but there were clashes with police. protesters are frustrated on restrictions including the closure of bars and restaurants. the czech republic has seen a surge of new cases, making it one of europe's hardest hit countries. cnn's scott mcclain is tracking the situation for us in the
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czech republic. he's live in berlin at this hour. good to see you, scott. it has to be said the czech republic initially showed the whole world how to beat this pandemic by wearing masks buchlt then they stopped do it and now they're paying the price. what happened? >> that's a great question, rosemary. you know, the check republic may have been too good at controlling the first wave of the virus for their own good. czechs never saw mass casualties, never saw overflowing hospitals. so, in the spring the virus didn't really seem all that harmful. only now are people realizing that they may have underestimated it. the czech republic has about three times more new cases than the uk and four times more than even the united states. in this prag icu, the sickest coronavirus patients are treated by staff in full hazmat suits. now there's still a bed for everyone.
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[ speaking foreign language ] >> the government is also building a temporary field hospital it expects to need in just weeks. the czech republic has more new cases per million people than any other major country on earth. this is technically the second wave of infection. the first was barically a blip on the radar after the government moved quickly to close borders and implement lockdown. >> what set czech republic apart? >> europe with mandate with masks for the government. >> mid-march months before the w.h.o. was recommended masks, peter ludwig read the scientific evidence supporting masks and made this video to explain why he was convinced they were the answer. [ speaking foreign language ] >> reporter: the video went viral and a few days later masks
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mandatory outside the home. czechs started sewing. the mask mandate was unpopular but wildly effective. by late june, prague through a party to mark the end of the pandemic. >> do you think that maybe you did a victory lap a little bit too soon? >> we had the many experts and those were arguing that okay the disease is there but it's very mild so they try to push politicians just to skip out of strict countermeasures. >> with almost no restrictions, the number of cases started to slowly bounce back in late summer. top government epidemiologists called on the prime minister to reinstate the mask mandate. >> why do you think the prime minister said no? >> i think because we had an election.
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after the election, they started to push harder rules. it was too late because we had exponential growth. >> government closed restaurants and bars but the mask rule hasn't been fully reinstated. >> you don't think a mandatory mask mandate would have prevented the situation we're in right now. >> i think right now we have protective mandate but indoor. there is discussion to introduce it outdoor as well. it's not only wearing masks. it's an issue of other countermeasures and particularly social contact. this is the reason why the situation is still not under control. >> i think that one of the main causes is really populism. during the first wave, they were convinced that people want masks, so they push masks. now they were convinced people don't want to wear masks, so they are against. >> and one czech scientist that i spoke to said that despite the
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success of that mandatory mask man daut, czechs really hate wearing them. they don't the same kind of mask wearing culture some other asian countries do. a lot of people turned out but there was no social distancing and few masks in sight. and with the hospitals nearing their capacities, the czech medical chamber and now also the czech health minister, they're calling on czech doctors abroad to m coback to the country to help deal with the growing number of patients. >> it is a concern. and people may hate wearing masks action but they work. we see it, the scientific evidence. scott mcclain, many things for brinking us up to date on that situation. as covid-19 cases rise in the united states, president donald trump is on a campaign blitz but without a mask. more on that next. plus a glimmer of hope, how china's economy is bouncing back from the worldwide pandemic. we'll explain. in business you have to be able to shift-pivot-adapt.
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here in the united states covid-19 case counts are trending upward as the country heads into what health experts call the dreaded autumn surge. right now the u.s. is averaging more than 55,000 new cases a day and nearly 220,000 americans have died from the virus since the pandemic began. only missouri and vermont recorded a more than 10% improvement in the average number of reported kay cases over the past week. cases in connecticut and florida on the other hand increased by
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50% or more. despite the rise in cases, dr. anthony fauci isn't advocating for a lockdown just yet. >> they have to get really, really bad. first of all, the country is fatigued with restrictions. so, we want to use public health measures not to get in the way of opening the economy but to being a safe gateway to opening the economy. so, instead of having an opposition open up economy, get jobs back or shutdown. no. put shutdown away and say we're going to use public health measures to help us safely get to where we want to go. >> but those measures dr. fauci's speaking of haven't been followed by president trump. in the last week, mr. trump attended rallies across multiple states with little mask wearing and social distancing. and it seems his administration is once again giving out mixed
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signals. >> the president's leading the overall whole of government response and he's making all of us as public health leaders available to help educate the public. what matters right now is the message that we're trying to get across which is cases are increasing. well, americans aren't wasting any time before the election. millions have already turned out for early voting. more than 27 million in fact. that number represents almost 20% of the element amount of vo the last presidential election. here in georgia, there is a record turnout for in-person voting. natasha chen tells us why voters here are so energized. >> reporter: over the weekend we saw georgians come out in droves to cast their ballots, especially in mary yet at that, georgia, a suburb north of
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atlanta on saturday. we saw people arriving hours before doors even opened. they were undaunted by that. we saw people bringing their lawn chairs, their pets, their small children, their breakfasts zme and they were determined to wait. on sunday we saw wait times get a lot shorter. some people weren't aware voting was available to them. so in cases they were able to vote in just a few minutes. in both cases we spoke to voters who said it was critical for thome make sure they ballot was cast this time around. they said they were motivated by issues such as the response to the coronavirus pandemic and divisiveness in this country. >> this is such an important election. there's so much at stake. and in today's society right now with so much racial divide going on, we need candidates who's going to be -- who will be sensitive to that. and the person who gets elected needs to be held accountable for everything. >> the georgia secretary of
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state's office said that compared to this point in the early voting process in 2016, the total voter turnout has increased by more than 150%. that's including both in-person early voting as well as absentee ballots. natasha chen, cnn atlanta, georgia. now to the critical battleground state of pennsylvania. president trump won it four years ago, but recent polls put joe biden in the lead. dana bash visits a strong hold which democrats believe could now be in play. >> reporter: a line forms outside well before opening waiting to enter the trump house. >> we're ready for the next group to come on in. >> reporter: a mecca of sorts for the president's supporters in southwest pennsylvania where turnout delivered the victory and the white house. leslie ross si created the trump house in 2016 where she pushed
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disachkted democrats and never before voters to choose trump. >> we gave people a place to come to to believe they could win. >> reporter: now trump supporters show up daily for swag and yard signs and help registering to vote. >> we need trump in there again. i'm 65. i think it's time to register. >> have you not voted ever? >> no. >> reporter: rural west moreland counties have seen a surge in republican administrations. >> change my administration from democrat to republican. >> why? >> from what i've seen in the last past couple of years, i was ashamed to say i was a democrat. s ats a great honor to have you here. >> reporter: joe biden is ahead in pennsylvania polls, yet his campaign motto is "every vote matters." campaigning here in west motherland county this month, which hillary clinton did not in the 2016 general election. >> it's not an area democrats come and campaign very often, but you're here.
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why? >> i'm here because like i said, we are not taking any vote for granted. >> reporter: gina is county commissioner of west moreland, pa. ten years ago, she was miss pennsylvania in donald trump's pageant. now she's a democrat working to blunt trump's advantage here. >> in 2016 donald trump was a fresh face, new to politics, everyone was excited. he made big promises buchlt frankly, donald trump broke those promises. >> reporter: in small town, pennsylvania, signs matter. trump's are everywhere, big and bold, button bidens are out there too. >> when you see signs like this, it makes the republicans and democrated who voted for trump in 2016 realize i'm not alone. >> a challenge his supporters with being covid careful. fill liz friend head of democratic women organizes from
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home. she's clear eyed about the goal in trump country. >> we can't win pennsylvania for them, but we can add to the total numbers. >> reporter: as for republicans, they never stopped traditional ways of getting out the vote. knocking on doors, walking in neighborhoods in masks and using a gop data-driven app to find and persuade voters. >> depending who that voter is we're able to tailor the message to how we need to target the voter and turn them out. >> boosting the vote here is critical for trump. >> how important is it for him to get his voters even higher than it was four years ago? >> i do think we need to increase our voter turnout for the president to "outfront" set some of what may be happening in pennsylvania. >> back at the trump house, leslie ross si shows us the log of visiting from thousands of trump supporters.
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>> what about this year? >> my numbers have tripled. four years ago, my work was hard here. i had to convince the voters to vote for the candidate. i had to convince them president trump twuz best choice for them. this time i don't have to do any of that. they're all in. >> whether enough are all in could determine whether trump can overcome the head winds he faces to win pennsylvania and a second term. dana bash, cnn, west moreland county, pennsylvania. >> u.s. house speaker nancy pelosi says she and the treasury secretary have to agreen a coronavirus stimulus plan within 48 hours if it's going to pass before election day. last week, the white house proposed a $1.8 trillion plan, but pelosi said it didn't offer enough worker protections, aid to state and local governments and help for ent arers. she said the white house also watered down language on a national plan for covid-19 testing and contact tracing. but she remains optimistic a plan will pass.
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>> we're saying to them we have to freeze the design on some of these things. are we going with it or not and what is the language? i'm optimist bakz we've been back and forth on all of this. >> while struggling americans wait for a stimulus deal, a federal judge on sunday struck down a trump administration rule that could have stripped food stamps from nearly 700,000 people in the midst of a pandemic. 19 states, the city of new york and the district of columbia, have sued to block the rule change. it was expected to save $5.5 billion over 5 years. well meantime, china's economy is steadily recovering from the pandemic lockdowns. gross domestic product grew 4.9% in the 3rd quarter year on year. that was slightly lower than analysts had forecast. and markets across asia
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responded positively to the news, as you see there. japan's nikkei up more than 1% and hong kong up 2.68%. so, see lena wang joins us now to talk more about this. what is the major take away from china's gdp numbers and what role might the deteriorating relationship with the u.s. have on this recovery? >> rosemary, the numbers point to a very different picture between the rest of the world and kma na. while the global economy is dealing with the worse crisis since the great depression, china's economy grew 4.9% in the first quarter. that is lower than analysts expected but it's substantial growth. it's a reminder here that until a country gets the pandemic under control, it is impossible for that economy to recover and hang on to that recovery. there are no shortcuts here. and so far, china's proso he was the lockdowns, mass testing,
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contact tracing has worked. we are seeing this pick up as well in consumption which grew 3% in september. and it was evident in terms of china's mass travel holiday when more than half a billion people in china were traveling and spending inside the country. there's always skepticism about the accuracy of the official reported numbers but the economists i speak to say based on outside sources, directionally the sorry of china's rebound is significant. like other countries though, china's recovery is uneven and it has disproportionately achkted china's poor population. china still has unemployment though the official numbers show it is getting slightly lower. the day daunt capture the full picture. it's unclear how manial ms. of people who lost their jobs during the thick of pandemic have gotten those jobs back. when it comes to the u.s. china tensions interestingly here even
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though there's talks about decoupling, because china has managed to reopen the factories, china's role in the global supply chain is as important as ever. >> you see aggressive testing is exam poem wearing masks. it's going to be hard to see that happen in the united states. many thanks joining us live from hong kong. coming up, israel is easing covid restrictions as cases continue to fall. we go live to jerusalem after this short break. stay with us. the other issue. oh...i'm scratching like crazy. you've got some allergic itch with skin inflammation. apoquel can work on that itch in as little as 4 hours, whether it's a new or chronic problem. and apoquel's treated over 8 million dogs. nice. and...the talking dog thing? is it bothering you? no...itching like a dog is bothering me. until dogs can speak for themselves, you have to. when allergic itch is a problem, ask for apoquel. apoquel is for the control of itch associated with allergic dermatitis and the control of
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♪ ♪ heart monitors that let your doctor watch over you, just like you watch over your best friend. another life-changing technology from abbott, so you don't wait for life. you live it. israel is easing some of its coronavirus restrictions with cases there continuing to fall. businesses that don't require close contact with customers are allowed to open, along with national parks, beaches and schools for younger children. meanwhile, the palestinian's chief negotiator was rushed to a
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jerusalem hospital sunday with a worsening case of covid-19. and our oren liebermann joins us now live from jerusalem to bring us up to date on the situation. oren, what more are you learning about his condition this hour? >> reporter: robyn, his condition has deteriorated this morning and he is in critical condition. he is on a ventilator and under general anesthesia at the moment. he came into the hospital yesterday taken from his home in jeer coe where he was in serious but stable condition and remained in that condition overnight. again the hospital said this morning his condition deteriorated and he is now in critical condition. he is ventilated and is under general anesthesia. he was diagnosed about a week and a half ago. and all along he has been a high risk case because of a lung transplant he underwent in 2017 in the united states. these are critical hours as he
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remains in critical condition at a hospital in jerusalem. >> absolutely. it's actually rosemary, oren. so, israel is easing restrictions. is there any concern that that move could be premature as we've seen so many other times across the globe? >> reporter: rosemary, i apologize for the confusion there, and yes, there certainly certa concern here. if you compare the lockdowns, the numbers are dramatically different. it was less than a death a day after the first lockdown. new cases were in the teens or 20 or 30. and the numbers are much higher. the deaths are in low dubl digits every day and there are hundreds if not thousands of cases a day. and the infection rate, though relatively low in mid to low single digits is much higher
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than it was. and we know how that went. within a few weeks the numbers started rising rapidly again and israel had to return to a second general lockdown. what happens now when the numbers are already higher than when it came out of the first lockdown. we'll see. prime minister benjamin netanyahu says it will be slower. >> it certainly shall. many thanks. a leading kremlin critic is speaking out about his horrific poisoning. just ahead, we will find out how alexei navalny thinks president trump should get involved. we'll explain. we're helping change the future of heart failure. understanding how to talk to your doctor about treatment options is key. today, we are redefining how we do things. we find new ways of speaking, so you're never out of touch. it's seeing someone's face that comforts us, no matter where. when those around us know us,
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the russian opposition activist at the center of a poisoning scandal is speaking out to u.s. news media. alexei navalny game graveley ill during a flight to moscow in audience. much of the horrifying experience was recorded on camera by other passengers. as his condition got worse, he was transferred to a hospital in
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berlin. it was determined he had come in contact with novichok. he says russian president vladimir putin is responsible. for more on this, we join fred planken. what all did navalny have to say about his poisoning? >> reporter: hi there, rosemary. alexei navalny's first televised interview with u.s. "60 minutes." there were interesting details bs first of all, what it fete like to be poisoned. we heard some audio of him screaming in anguish on that plane. interestingly, while he said while he was in anguish, there was no pain whatsoever, but at the same time, he says he realized he was dying. let's listen to what he had to say. >> i said to the flight attendant and i kind of shocked him with my statement, well, i
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was poisoned and i'm going to die. i immediately lay down on to his feet. every cell in your body just telling you, body, we are done. >> having a body telling all of you that you are dying. of course alexei navalny in that interview once again reiterated that he does not only believe vladimir putin was behind his poinzing, he was certain because he believes no one else would be able to get the stabs novichok and be able to cover everything up. we have to point out rosemary that the kremlin vehemently denies that and calls the allegations absurd. >> navalny also had a message for president trump. what did he say to the u.s. leader? >> he certainly did. alexei navalny was surprised that president trump himself had not condemned the poisoning of alexei navalny, nor the
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leadership of russia for the poisoning of alexei navalny. he says he believes it's important for the most powerful person in the world, the president of the united states to take a stand not necessarily just against the poisoning itself but especially the use of a chemical nerve agent that was developed for warfare. let's listen to more of what alexei navalny said. >> i think it's extremely important that everyone of course including and maybe president of the united states be against using chemical weapon in the 21 century. >> and it's quite interesting because if we go back and we look at the reasons why germany and france initiated the european union sanctioning, some russian officials and also russian organization as well, it was because of the fact that novichok was used in this poisoning. the germans and the french especially saying they believe it would have had to have been
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some sort of state organization behind that. and the fact that novichok was used, a chemical nerve agent, they believe makes this a case for sanctions to be used and make this obviously a very grave crime, rosemary. >> all right, fred. it is a sad day for baseball fans here in atlanta. the los angeles dodgers are headed to the world series after beating the atlanta braves. cody bellinger blasted a tiebreaking home run in the bottom of the 7th. 4-3 after the dodgers trailed in the series 3-1. and thanks so much for joining us. i'm rosemary church. i'll be back with more news in just a moment. stick around. i feel like we're forgetting something.
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