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poor. millions lost jobs in china during the pandemic, and china numbers don't give the full picture of how many are still jobless. china growth faces risk from high unemployment and further trade tensions with the u.s. >> hope to see you tomorrow. brianna keilar picks up coverage right now. hi there. i am brianna keilar. i want to welcome viewers in the united states and around the world. we're just over two weeks until election day and the pandemic is getting worse just as experts predicted it would. 40 million cases worldwide, the u.s. is currently averaging more than 56,000 cases a day. that's about a 60% increase from september's low. ten states just set new records with the highest number of cases reported in a single day since the pandemic started, according to johns hopkins data. overall, 27 states are showing arising trend in infections, and all of this is happening after
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weeks of warnings from scientists and doctors to get the case number is down before flu season hits and cold weather drives people inside. unlike past spikes, this one is happening as colder weather is upon us. indoors is riskier setting for the spread. this outcome is predictable, preventable, but is it unstoppable? top experts worry that yes, one saying the next 6 to 12 weeks will be the darkest of the entire pandemic. moment ago, dr. anthony fauci, the top infectious disease expert, says much of the country is at risk from having sickness from coronavirus. >> in the united states, 30% of u.s. adults are susceptible to severe covid-19 disease, on the basis of underlying conditions as well as aging in individuals, even those with overlapping compromised conditions.
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so the idea of being able to let this infection go through the community, only be concerned about those in nursing homes clearly is flawed. there are so many people generally in the community who are susceptible to severe disease. >> nine months since the first u.s. cases, there's still no cohesive federal plan to control the virus, in fact, the president is headed to arizona tonight to headline another large rally there. as he does that, he launched another attack against dr. fauci just as the nation is about to enter the quote, dark time in the pandemic. i want to turn to kaitlan collins. the president called fauci a disaster and an idiot. tell us about this. >> reporter: yeah. this comes after the 60 minutes interview fauci did where he talked about things like the president's rallies, dismissing the president's idea that coronavirus, we're rounding the corner on it, things like that. now the president unprompted in a call meant to rally campaign
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staff in the last 15 days until the election went after dr. anthony fauci, calling him a disaster, saying, quote, people are tired of hearing about the pandemic, saying people are saying whatever, just leave us alone. they're tired of it. people are tired of hearing fauci and all these idiots. fauci is a nice guy, been here for 500 years. then went on with attacks against fauci saying that fauci is a disaster. if i listened to him, we would have 500,000 deaths. and later he said it would be 7 or 800,000. even as the president was saying these things, this is a call with campaign staff, reporters were given access to it, including myself. the president acknowledged that reporters could be listening, said if they're on, i could not care less. the president not trying to keep attacks on fauci private as he has done in the past, now he doesn't mind them coming into public view as tension between the two of them has been
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building for months. we should note, this comes as the trump campaign is airing an ad that features fauci where it seems to be implying he is endorsing the president's handling of the pandemic, something that fauci disputed and said in that quote he was using, he was praising work of the task force. brianna, the president says people don't care about coronavirus any more, you have to look at the polls for that. cnn polls done two weeks ago, you see that voters nationwide rank it as the number two priority, but that changes when you look at if they're biden or trump voters. it is 60% biden voters think it is a number two priority when it comes to trumpers, only 22% according to latest numbers think the pandemic is a priority when it comes to voting this fall. >> it is very illuminating as you point out. thank you so much for that update. in the midst of all this, dr. scott atlas, president trump's handpicked adviser on white house coronavirus task force is pedaling disinformation again, this time about masks.
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this weekend he tweeted extensively and erroneously how they don't work which is refuted by cdc guidelines based on science. twitter took down the tweet, said it violated the rule that bans sharing false or misleading content on covid-19 that could lead to harm. a reminder of who scott atlas is. he is a neuro radiologist. his resume looks pretty good at first glance. attended university of chicago school of medicine, former chief of neuro radiology at stanford university medical center. as i said before, on paper his credentials may sing, but anti-science blathering blows. he is a conservative media darling, going on the president's favorite cable news channel to say things the president likes to hear, touting herd immunity as solution to the virus from early days of the pandemic to as recently as last week. >> you can allow a lot of people to infected, those who are not
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at risk to die or have serious hospital requiring illness. we should be fine with letting them infected, generating immunity on their own, and the more i am unmmunity in the comm the better we can eradicate the threat of the virus, including the threat to people who are vulnerable. that's what herd immunity is. >> problem is, you can't do that without killing people. remember, herd i mmunity is nota health strategy. letting it rip through the population is mass murder, according to william hazelteen. that might be why he doesn't want to be caught outright pushing herd i am unmmunity. he claims he urged anyone to
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develop herd immunity an outright lie. in that same interview, atlas down played number of deaths estimated by an influential model the white house uses. >> the model and all the other models have been so wrong so many times. think about the common sense here. why do we have to keep changing a model every three to five days every week? >> the ihme model the white house cites is wrong only that it underestimates the death toll. cnn fact check showed that it lines up with virus progression in the u.s., and the projections are updated because they're projections, just like weather maps or economic outlooks are updated as real time data comes in, allowing projections based on real time data, right? just like presidential polls. and speaking of, when it comes to his boss' recent bout of covid, he told fox news there's
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no need to worry. he is a very healthy guy, never seen anyone with more energy and vigor at any age, but particularly at his age. the president is 74, obese by medical standards, treated for high cholesterol. that puts him as elevated risk of coronavirus. no matter how much dr. atlas wants you to believe otherwise, figuratively speaking, he puts on the maga hat. he has competing priorities here and they're dangerously at odds. with me now, josh dosse, white house reporter, cnn political analyst. i know you have new reporting that there's actually a top coronavirus task force official, dr. deborah birx, who is very much at odds with atlas. tell us what you discovered. >> right. start out with consolidated power among the coronavirus response at the white house. he is now meeting with the
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president regularly while dr. birx and dr. anthony fauci are not. dr. birx has been disputed by dr. atlas' comments, she went to the vice president and said she didn't think dr. atlas should be on the task force and did not trust his data and analysis. the vice president basically told the two of them to settle it themselves. the range of alarm among other doctors on the covid task force, dr. birx, dr. fauci, jerome adams. >> in a way, the vice president is allowing scott atlas to continue doing what he is doing, saying what he is saying on the task force. he is not taking any action here. >> no, the vice president is not. the vice president has let the task force be in place, various medical experts can argue it out. dr. birx and fauci believe dr. atlas is not arguing in good faith, using faulty scientific models and projections. >> dr. atlas has only been an adviser on the task force for two months.
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he kind of came in, lauded by the president's allies as counter to fauci. you write that he managed to sideline other doctors while gaining power. how has that happened? >> well, he's been more aligned with the president's position on covid that it is going to spread, most people will be fine and healthy, reiterates that to the president. not a fan of masks or additional testing. shares a lot of positions the president holds in many of these cases, and the president has liked that perspective and opinion. the president said publicly as he said earlier today he does not agree with dr. fauci, he called him a disaster on a call with campaign staff earlier today, and likes that dr. atlas brings the perspective he would prefer on the virus. >> josh, thank you so much for sharing reporting with us. we really appreciate it. >> thank you. i want to bring in cnn medical analyst, dr. jonathan ryaner, professor of medicine at george washington university.
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doctor, how concerning is it that the preferred coronavirus adviser is tweeting stuff so erroneous, twitter doesn't let it stand. >> right. i first saw the tweet, i thought that account must have been hacked or that he was in a personal health crisis. like a random passenger invited to the cockpit to land but we're all riding that airplane. there's no question, say this again, there's no question that wearing masks will reduce transmission of the virus. science is not in doubt. on a countrywide level, look at the countries around the world who have almost universal mask adherence, places in asia, japan, a total of 90,000 cases. a day and a half of cases in the united states. taiwan. very early. universal mask adherence.
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they had seven deaths. this administration brought in basically a libertarian radiologist to tell the president what he wanted to hear. if you look at the professionals on the coronavirus task force, people like anthony fauci and deborah birx and robert redfield, none of them line up with scott atlas. he is an unwelcome, unqualified voice basically shouting out all of the other reasonable voices in the administration. >> and there was a phone call with his campaign and president trump said people are tired of hearing dr. fauci and all these idiots. he called dr. fauci a disaster. what is your reaction to that. >> you know, having a quarter million people dead is the disaster. i think what americans are tired of is the death and the
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suffering. you know, we have this new misery index, the new misery index is the unemployment in this country and death rate and case rate from covid. that's the new misery index and it is amongst highest in the world. we're tired of that. we're not tired of hearing about covid. we're tired of the toll covid is taking. when i see the president make a statement like that, it tells me he is tired of dealing with it. and the one response to somebody tired of dealing with it is to bring in a new team. >> doctor, thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> my pleasure. just ahead, johnson & johnson paused vaccine trial. but why is the company silent over details. more than 27 million americans have already voted this year. what that record breaking number tells us about the race. and the president continues to attack the governor of michigan after the fbi thwarted
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voting in florida counties that includes broward, miami-dade, deval and palm beach. experts predict higher turnout. dana bash, our political correspondent is with us. despite the numbers, the president told campaign staff he is feeling pretty good about re-election chances. tell us about this. >> reporter: well, the president is trying to make it so that the people that are working for him aren't completely depressed and despondent over what they're seeing in polls, but also a slew of stories over the weekend and today that suggest there's some infighting which often happens with losing campaigns. you know this from covering politics for so long, and that they're rudderless inside the trump campaign. that seems to be the reason the guy at the top of the ticket made this move to have a call, not just have a call, but as you
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heard at the beginning of the program, make it so that reporters knew what he was saying, not just about the comments about anthony fauci, also about where he is right now in polls, trying to buck everybody up, remind that people wrote him off four years ago and surprised everybody. that was clearly the purpose. as you said, the numbers of early voting are astonishing. really astonishing. maybe it was 10% of what experts expect it to be. now it is 20%. younger voters are turning out more, and in a place like florida, given how younger voters tend to turn, that's another good sign for joe biden, not necessarily a good one for donald trump. >> yeah. it is a different election.
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obviously there are reasons people are doing that. it is hard to sort out. i want to ask you about something that john cornyn, republican from texas, he is up for re-election, something he said. he seemed to knock president trump in an interview with local newspaper when asked about the white house coronavirus response. the senator suggested there's no use debating trump or trying to change his mind. he is who he is. >> let me read the quote from a newspaper in fort worth. maybe like women that get married, think they'll change their spouse, doesn't work out very well, then he said i think what we found is we are not changing president trump. he is who he is. you love him or hate him.
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and there's not much in between. take aside the awkward comment about women and spouses, which we can try to dissect maybe off line, i'll text you later, but let's talk about what matters here most which is that this is an unflew engineers republican on a ballot in a state that should be solidly, comfortably red for him, the senator. and more importantly, for the president, saying that you just have to navigate him. i spoke to somebody who knows the senator well before coming on with you who said this is something that john cornyn said a lot in private, maybe even a little more in public than we realize because people are paying attention more. but that he early on understood
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going up against president trump on things he disagrees with him on, i'm sure there were lots of things like other republicans that he disagreed with president trump on, wasn't going to get him anywhere with either the president or the people who he needs to vote for both of them in texas. so this was the saying the quiet part out loud how republicans across the board had to navigate the president, even those that, you know, wish he would just be quiet and get off his twitter feed every once in a while. >> i am looking forward to your text, dana bash. we'll talk about that later. thank you so much for coming on. >> bye. dr. fauci and the governor of michigan are getting death threats as the president ups his attacks on them. and the arrest over a mask mandate live. and writer of the movie "contagion" will join me on
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wh whitmer and dr. fauci are talking about efforts -- the governor the target of a foiled kidnapping plot is calling out the president for inciting domestic terrorism with rhetoric. dr. fauci travels with federal security agents says his entire family is being harassed. >> that's sad. the very fact that a public health message to save lives triggers such venom and an mossity that it results in threats to my life and safety, but it bothers me less than the hassling of my wife and children. they've been threatened, yeah. like give me a break. >> falls on deaf ears every time. they haven't done a darn thing. in fact, ten days after a plot to kidnap, to put me on trial, and then to murder me, ten days
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later, they're back in michigan using the same rhetoric i have been asking them to turn the heat down. it is dangerous. >> in kansas, a man has been arrested for allegedly threatening to kidnap and kill the mayor of wichita because he was upset about the coronavirus mask mandate that requires people to wear face covering in public spaces. meredith dowdy is charged with making a criminal threat and the wichita mayor threatened, brand on whipple, joins me now. mayor, thank you so much. we're sorry you're going through this. give us some information about how all of this unfolded and exactly what this man allegedly was planning to do. >> yeah, thanks for having me. really, we were just alerted that this person was interested in causing harm to myself due to some of the precautions the city has done to protect our neighbors in our community. >> you have received some
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threats before, you are a public official. there was something about this that felt different to you. >> yeah. i signed up for this, this is my job. my job is to make sure the people of wichita have the necessary information that they need to keep themselves and our community safe, even if that information is negative information, right? so in the past, i think the type of threats that have come my way have been from folks who really couldn't probably pull them off. this person, there was a text message to someone thought he thought would have my address and asked for my address so it could be carried out. luckily we have incredible police officers that were able to get this person under arrest and also make sure my family was safe. >> yeah. it is not just you, it is your family. we're hearing that from so many public officials feeling threatened. to you did it seem knowing that
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this was something happening right after we learned about the plot to kidnap the michigan governor gretchen whitmer over similar outrage, is this something that because of that you are even more concerned about? did that sort of up the worry that you would have as a public official about what someone might try to do? >> i mean, to be honest, not really. wichita has the greatest people in the country. we have the best police chief, we have incredible neighbors that look out for each other. when i look at what happened to governor whitmer, that seems more planned out. here it seemed like someone that's obviously on the fringe, and here in wichita, voice of common sense always drowns out the fringe voices that just are loud but not common. so overall, i think the two cases are different, and again, i live in the best community in the world, so i am never afraid to be in wichita.
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>> laura trump, the president's daughter-in-law, speaking on behalf of the campaign this weekend, this is what she said about the president's attacks on governor whitmer. >> he wasn't doing anything to provoke or threaten this woman at all. he was having fun at a trump rally. >> i mean, i hear folks in the president's corner downplaying some of the rhetoric. what do you think of it being characterized as having fun? what do you think about what this rhetoric is doing? do you think it is contributing to an environment where we are seeing public officials coming under threat? >> listen, as a dad i have three boys under the age of seven. i tell them it stops being fun when someone else isn't having fun, right? when someone is at risk of being hurt, that's when the fun stops. i don't think it is so much what our president says as much as also the tone it is said in, and
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also the environment we're in now, we're in a highly partisan election cycle and also under a lot of stress. this for our country is one of the most difficult times in the last 100 years. we have to take that into account and elected leaders need to be responsible and set the example, not just the example to keep covid at bay but the example when it comes to showing each other grace, ensuring we watch out for one another, even at times we disagree. >> i like what you say to your kids. i'm going to steal that. mayor, thank you. >> doesn't always work. thanks a lot. >> i hear you. we can try. thanks, mayor. it is now a deadline to reach a stimulus deal as china's economy rebounds. will george w. bush break his silence, endorse someone before the election.
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them is voting for joe biden. >> most of us never voted for a democrat in our lives. never thought about it. because most of us are lifelong republicans. but we're americans first. we understand the character, experience, and frankly empathy required for leadership because we've seen it firsthand when we all served with the 43rd president. but come election day, every last one of us on this team is voting for biden. >> the group is called 43 alumni for biden, and says it, quote, seeks to unite, mobilize a community of historically republican voters dismayed and disappointed by the damage done to our nation by donald trump's presidency. joining me, cnn special correspondent jamie gangel. when you see the ad and those
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behind it, is this significant? it is something that stands out. is it significant? >> i think it is significant in this way. these are loyal republican -- they may not be household names but these are party faithful. what's interesting is they're not just going to stay home or leave the top of the ballot blank, they feel that they need to actively vote for joe biden. i was also struck by the commercial because it is not the lincoln project, right? it has a very different feeling. and i would say there are two groups of bush 43 republicans, there are some very familiar faces, former secretary of state colin powell has said he will endorse biden, has endorsed him. same for secretary of homeland security, tom ridge. he has endorsed biden.
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but what struck me about this group is you won't recognize most of their names but there are hundreds and hundreds of them and the sense is that they hope to reclaim the republican party down the road, that they really have to stand up and not just speak out now but vote. >> yeah, i mean, they're part of a large group of republicans, both campaign and in the policy world, who kind of feel they're republicans without a party, that they feel they can hold onto right now. and it is lending to some speculation which is what about former president george w. bush, is he going to speak out. >> when the ad posted this weekend, my phone blew up, i made some calls. there's not going to be an october surprise. i am told by officials very close to former president bush
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that he is not going to endorse biden. this is really not a surprise because he has been saying for quite some time that he has retired from politics. that said, it doesn't take a lot to read between the lines. just for some context. former president bush did not vote for donald trump in 2016. we reported he left the top of the ballot blank. he is the last republican president before trump. he is not endorsing trump. and just recently, he announced that he paints a lot now. we've seen the paintings he does. he did them of military soldiers. he has a new book and a new exhibit coming out and i can't help but think it wasn't exactly an accident when they announced
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it. it is called out of many one. and the subject of the new book, immigrants. so there's no building a wall, quite the opposite. and on a lighter note, brianna, a former bush senior administration official reminded me this morning if you want to know how former president bush feels about donald trump, you might remember that he was quoted after the inauguration in 2016, i can't say the whole thing, but he was quoted as saying that's some weird blank. so we know where he stands. >> yeah. i mean, that was direct sort of caught. we heard him unfiltered. even the filtered version of him is clear, sub tweeting. jamie, thank you so much. >> thank you. joe biden and president trump will face off one last time in the final presidential debate this thursday. special live coverage beginning
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at 7:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. coming up, president trump's know nothing defense, the president denying reality with two key words. later, crowd surfing during the pandemic, and that's just the beginning. the righter of the movie "contagion" will join me live to discuss. sleep stories. mal... hey, no! roxy! audiobooks, podcasts, audible originals, all in one place.
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nothing defense. >> i know nothing about qanon. >> i just told you -- >> what you tell me doesn't make it fact. i hate to see that. i know nothing about it. >> it's hard to believe, for many reasons. first the fbi has labeled the group a threat. second trump endorsed a qanon supporter running for congress. third, he's been asked about it at multiple times at this point. he knows, but his feigned ignorance also was during the time -- directed toward the proud boys. >> i only have to taye they need to stand down and let law enforcement do their work.
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>> he said this about kkk david duke during his last campaign. >> i don't know anything about him. somebody told me yesterday, whoever he is, he did endorse me. just so you understand i don't know anything about david duke, okay? i don't even know what you're talking about with the white supremacy or white supremacists. i don't know. did he endorse me, or what's going on? because you know, i know nothing about david duke. i know nothing about white supremacists. >> okay, let's just roll the tape. did the david duke thing bother you? 400 new yorkers contributed? >> i hate to see what it represents, but i guess it shows a tremendous amount of hostility in the united states. >> what do you see as the
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biggest problem with the reform party right now? >> you have david duke just joined, a bigot, a racist, a problem, this is not exactly the people you want in your party. >> trump also uses the "i know nothing" defense on the reported russian bounties on the heads of american troops. it was included in his presidential intel briefing. tough to miss, but here's what he said, quote -- nobody briefed or told me, pence or meadows, about the so-called attacks on you're troops by the russians. everybody is denies it and there have not been many attacks. but he seems to miss a lot, especially when it comes to the kremlin. >> i know nothing about russia. i know about russia, but i know nothing about the inner workings of russia. >> he also said he was unfamiliar with wikileaks, but only after he said he was quite familiar with wikileaks.
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>> i know nothing about wikileaks. >> wikileaks, i love wikileaks. >> when the house impeached the president, it included everything from, quote, it is a perfect phone call, to this one, his reaction to bill taylor's testimony that trump was overheard asked about investigations a day after that call. >> i know nothing about that. first time i've heard it. >> when trump's former top political adviser steve ban nno was charged, the president claimed this -- >> i know nothing about the project, other than when i read about it, i didn't like it. i think it's a very sad thing for mr. bannon. >> the problem is before bannon way arrested, chris koback said
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this -- the president said the project headache my blessing and you can tell the media that. duly noted. thank you. another time was when jeffrey burman, a top justice department official was fired after overseeing the prosecution of several of the president's allies. >> that's all up to the attorney general, attorney general barr is working on that, that's hi department, not my department. we have a very capable attorney general, so that's really up to him. i'm not involved. >> but it was also very much up to the president, just before trump's remarks, ag barr told jeffrey berming in a letter he had been fired by president trump. finally, when it comes to the pandemic, the president was asked why the white house
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eliminated the office in charge of global pandemics. he blamed it on dr. fauci, who had nothing to do with disbanding that team. >> i could perhaps ask tony about that, because i don't know anything about it. you say we did that. i don't know anything about it. >> now, we all remember a time when it was good for a president to be informed. claiming ignorance all the time about all the things wasn't presidential, certainly wasn't smart, and it wasn't believable. i guess that, at least, hasn't changed. the president is again drafting fauci, this time calling him a disaster and an idiot. 133 million americans have pre-existing conditions
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i am brianna keilar. the pandemic is getting worse, just as the experts predicted, one of them warning that america is about to enter the darkest weeks of this crisis. the u.s. now averaging more than 56,000 cases a today, but today instead of attacking the virus, the president is going after the leading authority on infectious diseases, dr. anthony fauci, calling him and other experts idiots. today the president told campaign people on this call -- people are tired of covid. i have these huge rally,
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