in sacramento. because we know scott is fighting for all of us. re-elect scott wiener for state senate. i am brianna keilar. the pandemic is getting worse, just as the experts predicted, one of them warning that america is about to enter the darkest weeks of this crisis. the u.s. now averaging more than 56,000 cases a today, but today instead of attacking the virus, the president is going after the leading authority on infectious diseases, dr. anthony fauci, calling him and other experts idiots. today the president told campaign people on this call -- people are tired of covid. i have these huge rally, people

are saying whatever, just leave us alone. they're tired it. fauci is a nice guy. he's been here for 500 years. he's a disaster. if i had listened to him we would have had 500,000 deaths. >> if he had listened, he might have pushed for folks to wear masks. scientific modeling show us that university mask wearing would have saved tens of thousands. one rally is planned for tonight in arizona, one of 27 states now showing a rising trend in new infections. just as the weather is turning colder, driving people indoors, where the risk of spread is so much higher. it's not clear if fauci has heard the latest slam against him, but the doctor delivered this call to action today. >> we have a lot of challenges ahead of us. i can't help thinking that we

are really, you know, going through a time that's disturbingly anti-science in certain segments of our society. it's very troublesome to me, and we really need, as a group of scientists, physicians and health care providers, to really stick together in our principles. it will not be easy as we go on with they challenges. they a very, very difficult period in our existence. we need to be steadfast defenders of the scientific process. doctor, dr. fauci has been in the president's crossharris f h. he called him a disaster and said he and other experts are idiots. what is your reaction? >> i hope i'm one of those

idiots. that would be a feather in my cap to be called that. consider the source. dr. fauci has been around not just for 500 years, but for 2,000. seriously he is an icon in both the medical and scientific world. he's the most published researcher in the world. he's been through the hiv crisis and ebola, and really is nonpartisan. so to refer to him in demeaning terms is childish at best, and just creates a greater divide. unfortunately, all of the things that have been said, all of the statistics that were quoted before this happened, have come to pass. so there is no reason to doubt that we are at the beginning of what is going to be a huge surge this fall and winter, unless people really buckle down and do what has been recommended, which is social distancing and masks. so, you know what? that's just rhetoric. the science is the science, and

the science proves if we're careful, we can save probably hundreds of thousands of lives before this is all over. >> the president also mocked former vice president biden for wears masks and saying he would listen to the scientists if elected. do you worry there could be a lasting impact on public health, on the country because of president casting -- i mean, he's politicizing science. do you worry about a lasting impact? >> absolutely. i think that is already here. i think the lasting impact is not just on science, but on a lot of institutions that have basically pillared this country since its inception. people now -- and we see it in our patients. they do doubt what you say, which is fine. people should question their physicians and health care workers, and we should have answers, but to blindly think what we're saying is false, listen, we really have no other

motivation than to make sure our patients stay healthy and alive. so i think the damage is done. it's going to take probably decades to repair, and i really salute someone like biden, you know? i don't think it's a dig to say he's going to listen to scientists. i'm like, yeah, that's exactly what people should be doing and what politicians should be doing. >> it's an odd criticism, right? i want to listen, dr. rodriguez, we did get in this sound. let's listen. >> people are tired of covid. i have the biggest rallies i've ever had and we have covid. people are saying, whatever. just leave us alone. they're tired of it. people are tired of hearing fauci and all these idiots -- these people, these people that have gotten it wrong. fauci is a nice guy, he's been here for 500 years.

he's a disaster. if i listened to him, we would have 500,000 deaths. >> okay. so there i was reading the quote before, but there we have it in the president's news. he knew this would get out. this comes on the tails of dr. fauci doing "60 minutes" and raising just normal concerns, but the president feels it's negative for him. i want to bring up the doctor aextra -- who said something last week. a lot of people who can get infected, who are not at risk to have a serious requiring

hospitalization disease. we should be fine with letting them get infected, generating community on their own. the more immunity in the community, the better we can eradicate the threat of the virus, including the threat to people who are vulnerable. that's what herd immunity is. >> jorge, two months ago he was very quick to defend himself to my colleague mike at smerconish and insist he was not pushing herd immunity, which one other harvard professor calls mass murder. now here his's openly talking about. what do you make of this shift? >> this is what makes this so nauseating to a point. it's a fact that you can tell there are different political agendas at play here. if we had herd immunity with this infection, seriously there

would be millions dead in this country. herd immunity may work with a lesser infectious disease, but you still need 70% to 80% of people with antibodies. we don't know how long antibodies last, so this is a cavalier, at best, thing that he's proposing. as far as masks, he does something that most scientists would be kicked out of their university for, which is to mine the data, meaning that he picked and he chose what information he wanted from a study to sort of validate his point which was completely erroneous. he basically said, look, they were wearing masks, and they still got it. that's just bupkus. masks save lives. this is completely irresponsible. people just need to take care of

themselves, and, you know, let me tell you something. my patients, people are tired of this. women with breast cancer are tired of chemo, but they persevere, all right? we cannot diminish the human spirit and our ability to persevere. yes, we are tired, but you know, dammit, we're going to persevere. if that takes wearing masks for another year or so, we're going to do it. >> very well put. dr. rodriguez, good to see you. >> thank you, brianna. the mayor of chicago says it's seeing the second surge of the coronavirus. fill us in on what's happening there, aid yen. >> good afternoon. mayor lightfoot said if the city doesn't see a drastic turnaround, she will not hesitate to take action.

by take action, she's talking about reverting to phase three. phase three only allows bars and restaurants to be open for delivery, drive-thru and pickup. if you want to get with your family or friends, no more than ten people. indeed chicago is one midwest state struggling to maintain and stop the spread. by contrast, when you look at chicago, compared to, let's say the state of wisconsin, the positivity rate here is low in comparison. 5.4% here in haul, whereas in wisconsin, it topped 25%. but the mayor of chicago said she does not want her city to reach those number. earlier she said every day someone in chicago died from covid-19. at the starred of the pandemic, health official thought masses transit would drive up the cases and infections, but that's not what they're seeing. contact tracing revealed two out of three residents who were

diagnosed with covid-19 said they likely know the person who infected them. >> adrienne, broaddus, thank you. after a week johnson & johnson paused the trial, there are critical questions which are unanswered. elizabeth cohen has been following this from the beginning. some questions are basic, so why aren't we getting the answers? >> they are basic, and brianna, i don't know why we're not getting the answers. johnson & johnson is one of several companies working on this, but every time one is paused, it takes more time to get to a vaccine. astrazeneca was just going on for a short period of time, and then they went on pause more than a month ago, and still

haven't come back. moderna and pfizer are the only two currently going. with johnson & johnson, i asked the company repeatedly, can you tell me two things? what happened with this trial is a participant became ill, it was an unexplained illness, so they paused the trial, which is the right thing to do, so you can investigate what's going on. the question is, did that participant get the vaccine or the placebo. it's half and half, a 50/50 chance. they say they don't know or they won't tell us whether that person got a vaccine or placebo. they also won't tell us whether this is the first pause for the trial. maybe it paused earlier. they just won't answer the question. brianna? >> it seems like they should be able to answer the question. the american college of cardiology has reached an in-depth look on how covid-19 impacts the hard. what have they found? >> this is not good news.

covid-19 is known for cause inflammation, and it is known to cause damage to the heart. let's take a look. this is a study that looked at several other studies and summarized those findings. what they found is about one quarter of hospitalized patients have myocardial injury. those patients who have that injury tended to be older, have high blood pressure, diabetes and heart disease already. so that's what we know about that. one quarter is unfortunately a very high number. those folks who have that myocardial injury, brianna, they are more likely to die before they leave the hospital. they also are more likely to need to go on a ventilator. we don't know what the long-term effects are of having that kind of injury. it's one of the things that doctors are trying to study. there's conference that there's long-term effects on other bodily systems, even after people recover from covid-19 infection. brianna? >> elizabeth cohen, thank you

for all of that information. pep rallies, few masks and a crowd surfing politician in the middle of a pandemic. the president's campaign events fl flout cdc's guidelines. plus coronavirus spread like wile fires in nursing homes. new reserve could explain why we'll have more of that ahead. change in plans. at fidelity, a change in plans is always part of the plan.

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being treated from a coronavirus, held an event at the white house with hundreds packed together on the lawn. the president held his first campaign rally post-diagnosis in sanford, florida. many of them are not wearing masks, there is no social distancing, except for maybe the president. listen to what some of the supporters say. >> there's all kinds of other viruses out there that can jeopardize your health as well. so you can't stop living. >> if i'm going to get sick and die, i guess that's my turn. i trust got and i'm not scared. >> the sooner we all get it, the sooner we'll all be done with it. >> then you see other politicians like florida governor ron desantis, running around maskless, high-fives, but georgia state lawmakers vernon

jones crowdsurfing in the middle of a pandemic without a mask. i want to bring in scott burns who wrote and directed the movie "contagi "contagion." scott, now we're several months into it. you clearly did a lot of research, because there were many things i think you got spot on about what what hatch with a pandemic, but in all of your research and your writing of your movie, did you ever imagine this kind of behavior that we're seeing? >> absolutely not. i mean, i spent years speaking to public health experts, epidemiologists. they all told me the same thing. it wasn't a question of if this is going to happen, it was a question of when. so i'm not surprised that this is happening. there's a lot of science that

would have foretold this. what i would have never anticipate anticipated and could have never taken it to the studio is the notion beyond the appearance of a novel virus there would be a government response like this. i think the studio executives would have sent me home if i had walked in there and said the president of the united states would spread misinformation that his party would neglect the people that they're swov to represent. >> yeah. i mean, i even think of your person in the movie who was trying to profit, jude law's character, off of the pandemic. even he took it seriously. he knew it would spread and certainly the virus in the movie is more deadly, but never did you have anyone who is kind of denying the way we're seeing.

no condition imagine matt damon crowdsurfing without a mask in that movie. is it almost like where reality has jumped the shark? >> uh, yeah. i mean, you know, it would be a comedy if people weren't dying. the other part of it that i think is sort of stunning is, you know, if i was going to try to account for the divisiveness we now face, i think he would have pointed out as goldman sachs did months ago, that everybody who wears the mask saves the u.s. government $3,000. so i don't understand why the party that has always been about fiscal responsibility or a president who wants to get businesses back has decided to be on exactly the wrong side of an issue that would in fact shorten the pandemic, save lives, make it easier to get back to work. it doesn't even make sense

within the construct of what we've all been led to believe the republican party is. >> and ann, just this morning the president was on a call, and he said people are tired of hearing about the deadly pandemic. he also referred to dr. anthony fauci and other officials as idiots. how worried are you that americans may be losing their faith in science, or at least some of them are, as we see even scientists being so politicized? >> absolutely. i think -- having scott burns on the show, his movie, the tagline was nothing spreads like fear, and maybe now it would be nothing spreads like disinformation and pseudoscience. the white house, the place that's supposed to be the model of good behavior, good scientific information is spreading information that is

dangerous to the public and creating a lot of chaos that we could not have imagined. we are coming into a very dangerous time. every expert you had on this show, dr. fauci, dr. wen, dr. hotez, everybody has said over and over again, we are coming into a dangerous moment here. people are moving indoors, the virus will spread. we do not have a silver bullet. this isn't a movie. movies end in two or three hours. we have a long way to go. all we have are masks, social distancing, hand hygiene, the things we've been talking about from the very beginning. when we do have a vaccine it's not going to be the next day that everything is okay, we move on to the next thing. this is going to be a long haul. we need good science, good information coming all the way from the top. >> you know, scott, on the issue of the vaccine, when i rewatch "contagion" at the beginning of

the pandemic, that was one of the things that stood out to me. you capture in the movie sort of one idea how one might be ruled out. it's sort of like a lottery based on birthdays on how people would access the vaccine. so there was this long waiting game for a lot of people. we still don't have a veeck, there's a lot of questions about it, but that's one of the things you found in your research, this is something that will take a long time. it's not like the vaccine is discovered and bam, everyone gets it. >> that's exactly right. one of the other things about it, you don't actually need to have the vaccine in hand to begin to make a plan. so we talk about -- scientists talk about how soon the vaccine will be here. i'm sort of stunned that nobody seems to understand, when it does appear, who gets it first, how it's going to be dispersed, who is going to pay for it. i'm a sciencewriter, not a

scientists. i'm happen to be here, but people like ann are the people we should by listening to, to help us get a plan together for what happens when we do have a vaccine. >> you might have put more thought into your screenwriting, scott, than the white house has put into a plan. thank you both very much. utah is in the middle of a major coronavirus outbreak, the hospitals are overwhelmed, at risk of running out of room. we're going to get an update on the front line next. the rent plummets in san francisco after the virus pushes people out of their very tiny and pricey apartments.

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were asymptomatic. 39.8% did show symptoms. about 19% were pre-symptomatic, meaning they didn't show symptoms around the time they were tested, but eventually developed symptoms later on. the study calls the ever to identify and isolate these types of cases. i'm dan assignmenting in san francisco, where the pandemic is having a dramatic impact on the price of apartment rentals. many people appear to be leaving for the suburbs, going to cheaper areas in the country. according to realtor.com, a median price for a studio apartment has fallen 31% from this time last year. for one-bedroom apartments fallen 20%. companies have told employees to work from home swell into next year, and many companies like twitter are saying they could do

so permanently. this is a testing site that actually was in 2002 an olympic stadium. now they're testing people who believe they're symptomatic for covid-19. the impact on the medical community in this case is increasing. in fact icus are fearing they could run out of space and some medical facilities have put their staff on overtime. they believe the situation is only going to get worse. thank you so much, everybody. utah's governor is warning that hospitals in his state are, quote, getting overwhelm, health care workers are going stretched too thin. i want to bring in tom miller. dr. miller, thank you so much for sparing some time to talk with us. the university of utah health

system is one of the largest in the state. the icu is 90% filled. how long can you continue to operate like this? >> thank you for having me. we're very, very busy, as you might imagine, consistent with all the other stories you are hearing about. we are managing right now. if we increase another 20%, 30%, we'll have to call in all kinds of additional help. right now we're managing. we have created extra teams, extra rooms to manage our intensive care patients, and get us through this surge. we are doing okay, but we will work with our sister health care organizations in the state if numbers continue to increase, which we expect they will, to make sure or patients get the best care possible. yes, our staff are working overtime. my heart goes out to them and their families, because they're giving it their all. >> do you have a sense of what you can attribute this spike you're experiencing?

>> i think it's likely consistent with what you're hearing, kids going back to school, colleges getting back together. those infections general are generally in to say ages groups don't often result in hospitalizations, but there's vertical transmission to those people who are at risk, at risk of developing severe illness. so we're seeing the spike initially in young folks, and then we're also seeing now a tail spike in those 24 to 65 and above. so all age groups are impacted. i don't want anybody to think that it's just the young that are being infected, the infection is transmitted to family members, people who are older, people at risk. >> it's going through all the age groups, including into the older ages where folks are certainly more vulnerable to covid. tell us, do you have what you need? is there anything you need from your state or federal officials?

>> we have currently enough equipment. what we really need is the public to pick up their ears a bit and wear their masks. we can get rid of the masks when the infection is over, or until we have an effective treatment or vaccine, but the mask is our medicine now. we need to focus on wearing protective gear, especially out in public, and certainly within buildings or inside working. we have to up our game. this will really, really help us control the spread of infection, in spite of some of the things we've heard. we know it works of the we've had universal masking within our walls for some time, and we are not soo infection rates go up between employees or patients. when we do have people who get sick, they get it in the community and get it at home. so wears masks are very important when you're out in public, shopping and doing other things. >> you say in spite of some things we have heard. we have a high-profile incident

in the last day, one of the president's -- i guess probably hi favorite adviser, going on twitter saying that masks don't work, and that was something that twitter took down because it was wrong and harmful. what do you do when you're combatting information like that? i suspect you couldn't have even imagined in a pandemic that you would need to combat information like that coming from on high, when you need to keep your employees and your family members safe. >> i think those of us who are in the know and the health care industry and health care providers, we need to stand up and by heard. we need to tinsley express the importance of what we believe in order to protect south and those who are vulnerable, as well as others who could be suede. we need as to stand up, speak to the truth, and the more we message and message in a way that's not punitive or receip y

ry retribution -- it's very important at this point. we certainly hear you with that message, just wanting people to be healthy and obviously live full lives, even during these tough times. dr. miller, thank you for joining us. >> last thing i would say please wear the masks, and again we can take them off when it's over. we don't have to wear them permanently, but we've got to wear them now. let's do it, if not for ourselves, then for those we care about, and those who are vulnerable. thank you for having me on. >> thank you, sir. we appreciate it. turmoil at the "new york post." the staffers appear to be at odds over its decision to publish a controversial report,

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a "new york post" story about joe biden ands his son hunter have wreak havoc in the newsroom. some writers at the post reportedly did not want that i bylines attached to it. brian stelter is the anchor of cnn's "reliable sources." just give us the reporting and context. you call this a classic example of the right-swing machine. >> this is steve bannon hasn'ting a tip over, and rudy giuliani handing over the documents, and creating this appearance of a scandal. hunter biden has acknowledged he had poor judgment in working with foreign enterprise when is he father was vice president.

this was all litigated last year during the impeachment saga, but the right-wing media wants it back in the news. they view it as a closing argument for the trump campaign. trump is tweeting a storm, but the real story is the maneuvering by rudy to try to stir up a scandal. and i have confirmed that some "new york post" writers, were so wary of the story, they saw how sketchy it was they didn't want anything to do it, they didn't want their bylines. normally we want to make sure we want to get credit for it, but in this case, no, "new york post" reporters ranted the opposite. they could sense this was a very sketchy, dubious story. >> i want to know, the president

again attacked dr. fauci. >> i think dr. fauci is a very nice man, but we let him do what he wants to do, he loves being on television, and we let him do it, sometimes he tells things that are a bit off and they get built up. but i like him, but he's made a lot of bad calls. he said don't wear a mask, and don't ban china. they were bad calls. he admits that. i don't hold that against him. no, i think he's a nice guy. >> just taking a look at that. the president is full-on now at war attacking dr. fauci. is the point about -- fauche is incredibly popular. people listen to him for his good information about the pandemic. what do you think has prompted this behavior from the president? >> every strange kind of closing argument. he's giving misinformation about

fauche, claiming fauci didn't want to ban china. that's not true. he wanted trump to go further to ban travel from europe, and it's true he's been restricted from going on tv sometimes. the white house wbars him from interview intervie interviews. where is the interviews? the president only wants to focus on his denialism, and he didn't want fauci contradicting him. i think that's at the top of this. >> let's get back to the post story, brian. you have republican senator ron johnson, the chair of the senate homeland security and governmental affairs committee, he seemingly was prodded by fox to add an even more salacious

speculation. >> this is absolutely appalling behavior by the senator, but it was prompted by mar iia bartiro, that she shuts are invented. this is a gop fantasy, the most disgusting kind of gop fantasy, trying to link biden to pedophilia. we have seen the president retweeting ideas like that. it is -- i wonder how we can ever get back to a norm at political culture where there's so many smears being spread, including by fox anchors, including by gop senators. it was more bartiromo's fault for prompting it, but it was even more inappropriate for him to go along with the interview. >> it is a question that certainly at some point this

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. as coronavirus cases top 8.4 million worldwide. italy has reported an increase over the weekend and now they have more restrictions. cnn ben wedeman reports. >> reporter: italy is well into the second wave of coronavirus. though it's not immediately apparent in naples, the capital of the compagne region, which has the highest number of covid cases in the country. infectious disease specialist alexander pelle, says it's not just about the numbers. >> we have a positive increasing number of patients.

it's no different. >> reporter: what's different are the testing. where only covid-19 people with symptoms were getting them, now anybody can get one. the number of people in intensive care now approximately a fifth of what it was before. day after day, italy is reporting record increases in the number of new coronavirus cases. but at the same time, italy is testing like never before at this hospital here in naples. seven days a week, at least a thousand tests are conducted quickly and for free. five times as many tests are being conducted now than at the height of the first wave in march. a once unwieldy process now routine. how long was the wait? half an hour, says abramo. when will you receive the result, i ask? the whole family did it. tomorrow morning we'll get a

message with the results by phone, he says. there is no air of panic but there is concern. we're not worried, says valentina. what worries us is not being able to work. the number of new cases is erupting in italy and the peak of this wave is far off. better prepared this time, italy is still bracing for a long, hard winter. ben wedeman, cnn, naples. did you know diarrhea is often caused by bad bacteria in food? try pepto diarrhea. pepto® diarrhea is proven effective to treat symptoms, and it also targets the cause of diarrhea. the 3 times concentrated liquid formula coats and kills bacteria to relieve diarrhea.

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welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. we begin with breaking news just moments ago in the midst of a worsening pandemic. president trump just attacked the nation's top infectious disease expert, dr. anthony fauci, for the third time today. >> i think really dr. fauci is a very nice man, but we let him do what he wants to do, he gets a lot of television, he loves being on television, we let him do it. sometimes he says things that are a little off, and they get built up, unfortunately. he's a nice guy, i really like him, but he's called a lot of bad calls. >> called a lot of bad calls. on the contrary, a long list of health experts say they're truly bad calls, downplaying the virus