leadersh leadership. this happens to me. it can happen to you out there. please be careful. >> i hope people will listen to you. i know they will. it is true. how could it happen to you and it did and you are dealing with it. i thank you for sharing. i wish you all the very best in getting 100% better. thank you. >> thank you very much, erin. >> thank you to all of you, anderson starts now. good evening, 220,000 americans dead from the coronavirus, we begin with president's own words and how they speak to his priorities which seems to evolve right now, holding grudges. the first are from a campaign conference call he phoned in today. before he play it for you, you should know today marks day one of what the white house declared to be national character count this week. reading from the proclamation, "throughout this week, we

recommit to being more kind, loving, understanding and virtous," he didn't write it but he did sign it. with that in mind, here is the president's call today. >> people are tired of covid. i have had the biggest rallies, i have ever had -- and we have covid. people are tired, just leave them alone. these people that have gotten it wrong and fauci's a nice guy, he's been a wonderful guy. >> here is what he says a moment

later. >> if there is a reporter on, you can have it just the way i said it. i could not careless. the president could not careless that dr. fauci is the nation's researcher. the president could not careless the president could not kacarels that dr. fauci advised six presidents on hiv and aids and many other domestic and global health issues. a program that saved millions of lives, pepfar, that's the man that the president is mocking. if he does not mind saying, he's one smart guy.

>> you know my uncle is a great -- he taught at mit for a record number of years. he was a great super genius. dr. john trump. i really get it. people are surprised that i understand it. everyone of these doctors said how do i know so much about this maybe i had a natural amendment. maybe i should have done that instead of running for president. >> dr. redfield is there smiling. when the president said that, 14 people have died, not 14,000 or 1400. 220,000 lives later the president still believes he knows better than the expert. >> if you vote for mike, he'll surrender your future to the virus. he's on lockdown. if i listen totally to the

scientists, we would right now have a country that's in a massive depression. we are like a rocket ship. take a look at the numbers. >> listen to the scientists. we should be following to the scientists or listening to scientists. if the the president had to listen to the scientists when the cdc putting out guidelines recommending masks wear, he could have saved lives. he mocked the cdc's guidelines literally as he was announcing them. and to his economic analysis that were like a rocket ship right now, according to the latest number, 898,000 people filed first time jobless claims. 53,000 from the week before. no, the number is not going up like a rocket ship. what's going up is the president won't tell you is the number of

people infected with covid. we are rounding the corner and the terms he says. they don't tell you that if you listen to them which the president does. the country averaging 55,000 new cases of the day. those were the numbers and the facts. of course, polls will start showing up not long from now. >> we do have vaccines and th therapeutics coming down the pipe. when you look the next six to twelve weeks are going to be the darkest of the entire pandemic. >> that's the epidemiologist that we had as our guest at our town hall.

reflect the reality which is not easy. our task force adviser that the president does listen to -- he appears on fox news a lot. over the weekend he tweeted "mask works? no. dr. atlas is an expert in this field. the source says she also told that fighting the virus is hard enough. he's preaching music to the president's ear. he he's interested in herd immunity is one thing if it is achieved through vaccination or if you try to do it by letting people

infected. that seems to be the course that the president is taking. his uncle taught at mit, i guess? his uncle was a physicist and an engineer but not an infectious disease specialist, not an epidemiologi epidemiologist. dr. atlas is telling the president what he wants to hear. they're getting a lot of people sick. fauci is not telling the president what he wants to hear. here he is talking to the white house and including the president and dr. atlas was not wearing a mask. >> were you surprised that president trump got sick? >> absolutely not. i was worried he's going to get sick when i saw him in a completely precarious situation

of crowded, no separation between people and almost no body wearing a mask. when i saw that on tv, i said oh my goodness -- nothing good can come out of that. that got to be a problem and sure enough it turned out to be a super spreader event. >> given true of how many people attended the event and including chris christie came away chasing by this experience. he's taking opportunities to call on people to cover their faces and social distancing and stay away from large gatherings. he of course is attacking legitimate advises and mocking the top. covid is not a priority then what else is? here is the president in carson ci city, nevada. >> the dishwasher had a little problem, they didn't give enough

water so people would run it ten times so they end up using more water. i hate to say that, it is the shower, it is the sink and you know -- i don't say it because every time i say it they only talk about it because it is so gross to talk about, right? i won't talk about the fact that people have to flush their toilets 15 times. i won't talk about it. i will only talk about showers and -- i won't talk about it. have you get under a shower and no water comes in? i want that air to be so beautiful. i go into these hotels. they're not their fault. oh, i can't look at it now. i say oh, here we go. turn on the water. drip, drip.

but now you go into a shower and water pours down and if you go into a sink and you wash your hands nicely and beautiful. don't worry about it, okay? >> there is so much to say. we are going to recommit of being kind and loving and understanding and virtous. more from cnn's jim acosta. >> the president is counter punching. the beginning of the supreme

court news cycle with these late developments that the commission is going to approve of the use of microphone on the upcoming debate. the supreme court is going to allow mail in ballots coming in past election day and that's also for the republicans and so he's not going to be happy with either one of those developments. talking to trump campaign's adviser and what they have been saying. this is not smart, this reminds americans of the handling of coronavirus. and i talk to another adviser this ooerevening, it does not m any sense and it is not what they want to talk about two weeks before the election. >> for a long time, he tried to get close to fauci as possible. he knew about fauci's favorability rating. he was widely respected and the president tried to blow him off as much as possible and brea

interesting after the final days of campaigning, he chose to go after someone that's well-respected. jim acosta. joining us now, former cdc dr. friedman and sanjay gupta. >> it sounds like we are rounding turn to an oncoming event. given what's about to happen in this country, does it make any sense? >> i can't talk about the politics but i can talk about the science. we are having a steady increase in cases in much of the u.s., the midwest, the west. we have high case count much of the south and this is a

reflection of federal response. it is not about agreeing or disagreeing with one individual. it is about whether you follow policies that'll protect people. that gets us into the full herd immunity discussion which has been distressing to hear. you are talking about sacrificing the lives of hundreds of thousands of americans based on a theory that's almost certainly wrong. >> sanjay, i don't understand how somebody who's a leader of this country knowing that the projections are and by early february of additional 200,000 people, i think it was up to 400,000 people will be dead by then. so a growth from 220,000 right now to 400,000 by the end of february.

that could be drastically red e reduced by 70,000 or more if 95% of the country wore a mask. the fact that a leader of the country is not doing everything he can to save as many lives as possible and get people to wear masks, it is unconscious. >> look, i think you can't disentangle anything from politics now a day. i hate to say i agree with tom fried frieden. we want to talk about the science. this is not a scientific discussion anymore. you laid out the numbers and people know the numbers. here they can be part of a movement to save tens of thousands of lives by wearing a mask and they basically say i will pass and ain't going to dodo it. we can show what the virus looks

like from someone who wears a mask or who does not wear a mask. what is this discussion that we are having? it was viral of what the president said about dr. fauci who spent most of his time coming up with vaccines and therapeutics, he's speaking to the american people because he wants to educate them. this is a political discussion, anderson. i hate it. like it or not, that's what it becomes though. >> president trump said in one of his rallies. >> they're getting tired of the pandemic. you turn on cnn, that's all they cover. covid, covid, pandemic, you know why -- they're trying to talk people out of voting. people are not buying at cnn,

you dumb bastard. >> i agree everyone is tired of the pandemic. i know doctors and nurses and medical technicians and everybody who has really put their lives on the line and you know grocery stores and check out people and delivery people who risked the their looifives f us to enable to stay-at-home and be safe. i agree people are tired of it. it does not mean anything. it does not meryl strean the vi tired. the cyrvirus is the same before. it does not know that we are tired. >> it is true that all of us are sick and tired of this virus but the virus is not sick and tired of making us sick.

we have the possibility of really making a big difference. the response to we are tired of it is not let's give up. that's what herd immunity is saying. let's infect a bunch of people and protect the vulnerable. it suggests oh young people they're going to do okay. vulnerable people, we can protect them and get our society back. well, that's such a failure. that's about urrendering. it is about waving the white flag. here is a number that's stunning. if we were to do that, pursue the policy that dr. atlas, although he claims he's not suggesting and allow the virus to spread among young people, covid would have killed more people in about a year, more americans in about a year than all of the wars of the 20th killed.

it is common sense. there is no way one out of five people in this country is over the age of 65. young people who may be healthy can get very sick and die from this infection. we don't know what the long-term impact is going to be for some people who have lingering symptoms. this idea that we should let it rip in young people and surrender to covid is not only mistaken but deadly mistaken. >> sanjay, this is a medical question, again, for the leader of the country who likes to compare himself to winston churchill, if churchill while england was in the darkest days of world war ii. and getting bombed, had just said you know what, i know we are all tired of this. we are tired of it. tired of people reporting this on the news. we are tired of this.

let's just you know give up to it. again, it is unconscionable and i -- i don't even have a question. i am stunned that we are in this situation that you who have been talking about this around the clock since january/february, we are still talking about the exact same thing every friggin' night. it isunconscionable. >> right. it is. i think that it is so important to talk about. i think that's why we do it. i like to believe that people are still listening to this. tony fauci talks about five things that we can do within our power that we can bend this curve downward, even before the vaccine needs to be there.

socially distancing and avoid crowded in door places and large crowds and wash your hands. >> there is no need for panic but if you present a problem, you got to also present a plan which is there. people just did not adhere to it. this is the patient who's sick and despite the fact that they did not listen to the truth and pissed off of the doctors because they are still getting sick. they did not do what they are supposed to and are still upset about it. we can turn it into a different direction. >> our gary tubman was asking somebody who's not wearing a mask. she says without him finishing the question, oh, i would wear a mask if the president asks me to. it would be that easy for the president to save thousands of lives to raise the number of

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after election day which would have meant it would have been

turned out. these mail-in ballots can be received three days after the election even the postmark is not legible. this is all because of the coronavirus and changes democrats have pushed for. republicans have argued that ballots should not be accepted after election day especially if you can't tell postmark that this could cause chaos and clearly the hype forward and pennsylvania will now accept these ballots. this is a state that donald trump won by a near margin in 2016. it is important for both of these candidates. >> what could it mean for other preelection challenge? >> certainly sets a tone. we are a couple of weeks out from election day and there is still the ongoing challenges and one in particular is wisconsin.

the democrats are appealing to the supreme court because the low courts ruled and the ballots should not be accepted after election day. we are waiting for the high courts to rule on that. don't expect the high courts to rule on it just like this. there is something distirnct about this. they don't want to meddle too much into this. and so wisconsin it will be interesting to see how they'll deal with that. >> appreciate it. more now on the breaking news on thursday's debate, commission on the debate is a plan to prevent interruptions at least for part of the debate. brian stelter is joining us now. explain the new rule. >> during the two-minute where each candidate is asked a question, it is two-minute uninterrupted. the microphone from the other candidate will be cut-off.

this is where donald trump stepping on biden on the first debate. it is really trump trying to railroad the debate last month and now of the crucial two-minutes, biden will be able to speak freely and no interruption and vice versa. it will be up to moderator kristen welker to maintain order. debate commission was under intense pressure to do something after the first debate. what they have done here is a half way measure, what the biden campaign may have wanted and the trump campaign. the trump campaign is railing against kristen welker and the topic election and now this new rule. if president trump must do an attack with the debate commission and for him not to show up, here is another reason to. >> and just because they mute the microphones, if the president is speaking, i don't know how directional these mics are. you would still be able to hear

the president trying to interrupt. >> yes, that's right, you will be able to hear the candidates talking to each other and interrupting each other even if viewers at home are not able to hear all of it. we'll see if the president will try that tactic again against biden. we are assuming he's ready for the debate and preparing up against trump. this is an old fashion commission. it seems like some way of a stale commission that's no t keeping up with the time. they're making some change is notable. >> brian stelter, appreciate it. thank you very much. now our dana bash and richard hassan. david, pennsylvania is a critical state in deciding the election, how important is a win for democrats is the decision

for the police report? supreme court. >> they're looking to extend receipt deadlines when ballots can be received and counted and given the fact that we are in the midst of a pandemic. the real critical sort of effect that i think this is going to have is that everyone is going to need to be really patient on election night. this is a critical state, we know that it can determine who gets to 270. now you are dealing with a state that has little history, absentee and vote by mail, it is all sort of election day and in-person voting. they'll have enormous amount of mail to count and they'll have the ability to get the counting down three days following the election day. you heard of the red mirage. we know election day,

pennsylvania could look very favorable for trump but we don't know that's the reality until all these absentee vetootes are counted. that could determine the outcome. >> richard, it is a loss for republican pushing for ballots arriving on election day. does it impact republicans and how it impact republicans trying to litigate pennsylvania after election day. >> well, i mean the big news here is that the courts split 4 to 4. by the time until election day, we'll have a ninth justice on the court, justice barrett. if he acts as a conservative along with other justices, there could be a majority dispute between the supreme court. she could end up deciding with the republicans and this could come like a bush verses gore 2.0

situation. >> it is not clear of what impact this may have in other states facing the same issues. >> that's a great question. i don't think we know this has specific impact, oftentimes the supreme court rules on something, it has an effect across the board. it does not seem to be the case here. in pennsylvania though they don't have a lot of history with mail-in ballots. this is the first time that you know mail-in ballots have been allowed across the board and not y just for absentee voting. it is a brand new situation. they had a little bit of a test drive during the primary season. some local elections but by and large it is new which is part of the reason it seems why they're giving some leeway. i have been talking to republicans about this today that they are banging their heads against the wall because if only the president had been encouraging and not discouraging

mail-in voting. this could be helpful to the president as much as it is to democrats. >> well, i imagine they're b banging their heads against the wall because of john roberts, he's a conservative justice because he was appointed by president george w. bush. >> yes. exactly, donald trump's head is exploding right now over john roberts because again and again john roberts had been deciding votes in ruling that have gone straight at donald trump's desires both in policies and politics now and it is part of the reason why you know he has been so aggressive along with mitch mcconnell in completely filling up the federal bench and not just the supreme court but

across the board, the district level and appellate lefvel. >> it does show how critical amy coney barrett's vote will be. >> yes, it took the court 13 days and nobody issued an opinion. what was going on behind the scenes is probably robert is struggling mightily to find some common ground. it would be really tough if your first vote on the supreme court is in favor of the president who says he was rushing to put you on the court to help decide the election. it will be a tough decision for judge barrett to be in and i hope it does not get to that point. >> the debate commission releasing a new rule for debate on thursday they're -- just join the opening two-minute answer each topic question, i mean, they may mute one of the

candidate's mic but the audience can still hear the other and candidate if they choose to interrupt. if the president choose to throw biden off his train of thoughts whether his mic is on or not, it has the same impact. >> yeah, you can decide to walk over or whatever donald trump wants to do. here is the problem, anderson, you have this and i don't know the commission, i am not saying it is an actual change but more of the way to enforce the rules so those two-minutes can be uninterrupted. you are right to note that there is no full proof way of doing this. donald trump if he wants to repeat a performance in the first debate. he can do so. i don't think there is a political adviser in his team would advise him to do so because that debate was a disaster for him. it did not accomplish any political votes. i don't know if we are going to see him recreate that kind of

chaos bus ecause it did not hel him at all. this one adjustment on presidential debate is going to actually prevent that from happening if donald trump decides letting himself on fire again. >> dana, do you see the president abiding booing by the this is time? >> no. it is hard to see him abiding by the rules. i will say my reporting is that he certainly gotten maybe -- he heard the message loud and clear about how bad his debate performance was and by now 24/48 hours afterwards, he commented to a friend didn't i do great. it is always -- whether or not he's going to implement the

changes he's being told to not have a debacle like two weeks ago. >> they're unhappy of the topics as well? >> again, this is more about sort of pre-debate distraction. we have seen the trump campaign whether they did this in advance of the first debate sort of creating a story of the debate going in. it seems hard if you are donald trump's position and you are the under dog to turn down the last opportunity to be in front of tens of millions of americans for free at a concentrated time to try and actually sell your message at the end here and get to 270 electoral votes. that seems to be something i would be very surprise if donald trump waulked away from that opportunity. >> we touched on this earlier, attacking fauci. if the goal is to get to 270 electoral votes, does this help?

>> no. absolutely not. i have been working on this and talking to several people who are very familiar with the president, the data behind what he's trying to do with how he operates and to a person, these are people who wants him to be reelected. no nobody says this is a great idea. they're all shaking their heads and i would not say they are surprised but they are very frustrated because they understand that only, not only his whole base but the smallest percentage of his base, people going to his rallies and booing at fauci. the reason the president did what he did today is because he's upset that fauci said what he said on "60 minute" which is the white house would have a super spreader event and the

president does not like that fauci gets good press. he can't stand it and so he got out front with a message that's dominating today and it is not a message that's a winning one for him two weeks from tomorrow. >> president trump also restraining his attack, biden would quote "listen to the scientists" as it is a dispar e disparaging thing. >> it could turn into a biden's campaign ad. exactly right. he says everyday he's going to listen to the scientists. this is what's so remarkable about what the president did. it is these two things. the dismississipng of the scien and the personal insults. this is the thing that has turned away independence and all the groups he needs to take a little slight back from to get to 270 electoral votes. it is this precise strategy,

tactic that drives them away. it makes it harder for him to get elected. >> what are you hearing from the trump's campaign. they are and internally they're worried. some people argued that some of the numbers they are seeing inter internally are not as bad as what we are seeing publicly . the president does not want to hear and see some of the sister rstories that are out there and about how -- people are feeling really bad inside the campaign and at the republican national committee. we all know from koerricovering campaign that you don't hear a lot about that.

i know it has been a long campaign. it is a reality show. i mean the economy that donald trump is uniquely unqualified.

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the role is try the make sure every american who wants to participate in our election can do so and if the ballots are in before the dead line, they should be able to do so. we know the postal service have not taken the necessary steps to accommodate the great influx of ballots coming in. i am just smiling because having listened to the video you played with president obama, somebody in the crowd shouted out "that's right." everything he says in his

remarks proven to be true. the american people are onto president trump. why we are seeing such large number of people showing up at early voting. >> by the way, it is funny that you mention the guy shouting. i could not listen to anything else but just that guy. at the time president obama is like who is this guy? i was like wow, all right, let the president speak. >> felt like church and president obama nailed it. everything he says turned out to be true. how do you think the former president tends to walk that line on a wednesday clear clearly knows and he's going to make about joe biden and indictment and among other

things and adds a whole layer to this. i think president obama's laser focus on is making an affirmative case who he had the tu tu opportunity to work with every single year. he'll make that case strongly based on joe biden's competency and his track record and experience and his temperament and his empathy, all of what president obama saw up close. not just on good days but on hard days. he saw how joe focused on the american people and never on himself. anderson, it is an opportunity to make a dark contract with president trump who's the opposite of joe biden. i think president obama obviously is immensely popular. he's the perfect person to have out there on the campaign trail as we enter into the final two

weeks of the election. >> if president obama wins, what happens? >> president obama wins? >> if president trump wins, what do the next four years look like? i can't imagine. everyday we'll reach a new low and how can we go any lower? i don't know if our country is recognizable domestically and as pol polarized as this president tries to make us. we are no longer the envy of the world and the beacon of hope. the people around the world feeling sorry for us and confused. it is the most important election of our lifetime and the american people understand that which is why you see so many people are turning out and people are making plans to vote and there is a conversation everywhere you go, are you going to vote and how are you going to do it safely in the middle of a

pandem pandemic. many of the secretary of state have not taken the steps to do this avoiding people to stay in long lines. how can it happen in america? what gives me hope is the resilience and the people showing up including my 91-year 91-years-old went to vote and she stood in line for half an hour and she's proud to participate in. that's the case around this country. >> i appreciate your time. thank you very much. >> thank you, anderson. >> moments ago, the trump campaign issued a statement, they will be at the debate. ahead tonight, jarring video, dangerous rhetoric from the president. the virus is surging...

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60 individuals accused of plotting the kidnapping of michigan's governor. two are training with weapons as they jump out of a vehicle and start firing high powered rifles. text messages were also revealed. one read, quote, have one person go to her house, knock on the door, when she answered it, just cap her, end quote. this weekend at a rally in michigan the president was again criticized governor whitmer over the state's response to the coronavirus. the crowd chanted lock her up. the president replied, lock them all up. this was the governor's response. >> it falls on deaf ears every time. they haven't done a darn thing. in fact, ten days after a plot to kidnap, to put me on trial and then to murder me, ten days later, they're back in michigan using the same rhetoric i have been asking them to turn the heat down. it is dangerous.

>> joining us now is the michigan attorney general. i'm wondering what your reaction is to the president continuing to i a tack governor whitmer and the attorney general of the united states not even being out front and center about the plot against her. >> well, like many of the things that donald trump says, i find it to be vile and hideous and repugnant and a stain on our nation. but, you know, it's funny. i couldn't help but look back to 2008 and, you know, make the contrast to what john mccain used to do on the campaign trail when someone would den grade his opponent, barack obama, and he would defend him and say, no, no, he's a good and kind and decent man, just someone who i happen to have fundamental differences are on policy issues. but that's not this president. even after we know there is a serious plot to kidnap and to

execute our governor, he continues to say the same things and to egg people on and to incite violence. and it's very disturbing, and it's not -- it's not what we should be in terms of leadership in this docountry. >> i want to play something that the president's daughter-in-law told my colleague jake tapper yesterday in response to the president going after governor whitmer this weekend. >> he wasn't doing anything i don't think to provoke people to threaten this woman at all. he was having fun at a trump rally. the president was at a rally. of course he wasn't encouraging people to threaten this woman. that's ridiculous. >> i mean, the idea that he's not encouraging people to -- i mean, he encouraged people to liberate michigan, just like liberate virginia and some of these folks did talk about the governor of virginia as well. and when folks showed up at the

state house in michigan with rifles yelling at politicians and yelling at law enforcement and screaming in their faces, the president was talking about, you know, fine people showing up and, you know, good people, patriotic people. i mean, the idea that he's not encouraging this kind of stuff, the crowd was chanting lock her up. that doesn't sound like a fun, light atmosphere. >> yeah. i'm not exactly sure what's fun and light hearted about calling for the execution of a sitting governor. but i wasn't at the event, so may be hard to say. this is a continuation of what we have seen from this president. and what we have come to know and what we have come to learn is what we suspected all along is that it's dangerous and it does encourage bad behavior and dangerous behavior. and there are those that hear these mocking words utilized by our commander in chief and then

think it's okay to act on them. and what more can you say? you mentioned the fact that the united states attorney general has yet to talk at all about this plot. in fact, if you remember when bill barr testified under oath before the house judiciary committee, he claimed to not know anything about any threats to governor whitmer. yet, his own fbi was investigating a plot to kill her. it's really unfortunate because once we have lost our sense of justice in america, it is hard to know what we have left. that's why it is so important that we regain that trust in our judicial system, in our executive and in people that we can have faith in actually care about protecting people in this country instead of inciting violence against our political enemies. >> it is one of the most important foundations of a -- of a functioning democracy, is that

there is a rule of law and that it's not -- it is impervious to politics, that it is not something that the ruler of the country can just put their thumb on and have their attorney general, you know, go after one group and ignore other lawbreakers. >> well, i will say that, you know, we had quite a scandal with our last governor, and you probably remember the flint water crisis which remains under investigation by my office. and even though there were a lot of people that were very upset with governor snyder during the course of that event and president obama came to michigan many times and visited flint, but i don't remember him saying anything to incite acts of violence against our sitting governor then. but we have quite a different set of circumstances now, don't we? >> the president continues to undermine mail-in voting, continues to claim widespread fraud which there is not.

he has shown no evidence of widespread fraud. he is going after you as well in this. what message do you have for the president? more importantly, what message do you have to michigan voters tonight when it comes to voting in your state? >> well, what i would say is that the governor and myself and the secretary of state in michigan are doing everything we can to protect the vote. yes, we want to make sure that all eligible voters know how to vote, when to vote, where to vote and have the opportunity to vote. but when these votes are tabulated, as they will be by 1600 local clerks hours with the state of different parties, that it will be done fairly, and it will be done accurately. and whoever receives the most votes, that person will be the pinner, irrespective of that candidate is and that we will protect the vote in michigan. >> thank you so much. before we end the program, i want to note something president trump resurrected on the

campaign trail this weekend. the so-called war on christmas. now he says that hard fought battle is in jeopardy if joe biden wins. >> if he comes in, carson city will become a ghost town, and the christmas season will be canceled. look, remember i said we're going to bring back christmas, right, the name? remember we brought it back? >> christmas season will be canceled. wow. that's where we are in our politics. it won't. don't worry, kids. it's a ludicrous statement. the only reason we're showing you is the set-up to one of the most glorious examples of hypocrisy we have seen in this white house. >> i'm the same like him. i support him. i don't say enough. i don't do enough.

i put the -- i'm working like my ass off at christmastime. who gives a [ bleep ] about christmas stuff and decor ration? but i need to do it, right? >> perhaps both trumps should heed the words of their own message last year. together we must respect traits that exemplify the teachings of christ. chris? >> little parenting pro tip for you there, coop. don't give wyatt that instruction about christmas, that, you know, let the first lady speak for herself. i'd go another way with him about the significance of christmas, just as a parent. what are you teaching about christmas? tell him it's something that matters, something to look forward to and it's going to be safe. thank you very much for the questions and for laying it out there for people. i am chris cuomo and welcome to "prime