she says kamala harris did not impact her vote at all. this is a slice of the electorate. it is not necessarily how it is going to swing. >> thank you very much kate. thank you all of you for being with us. "360" starts now. good evening, with the president down in the polls and two weeks until election day. we begin with a question. is the president of the united states to say and do whatever he wants instead of helping him win deliberate rily or he can't hel it? as we look at the president's rallies. he says the worst campaign i have ever seen. they're on the wrong irssues an

message and he's not alone among conservatives. "trump is giving up." quoting now, "push more relief money into the economy and try to take the pandemic seriously and promise the country that mask-wearing and relief dollars are a bridge to a vaccine and normalcy in 2021." the first lady pulls out the first appearance tonight because she's still sick. nothing is deterring him from holding another super spreader event. none of it is stopping him from saying what he loves to say about the pandemic even new polling shows he's not trusted on the subject. >> the recent poll just came

out, 56% of the people wanted to be here. we are rounding the turn on the pandemic. 56% and it is a record. every job growth and vaccines and quickly ending the pandemic. normal life. that's all we want. you know what we want? normal life. normal life will finally resume. next year we'll be the greatest economic year in the history of our country. >> this is pennsylvania's straight day in more than a thousand new cases. hospitalizations hitting the highest rate since the pandemic began.

4600 cases. tec 70% of americans have little to no trust that he'll provide them accurate information on the subject. they're right. he just keeps talking about it though and he keeps bad mouthing the country's most trusted expert, dr. fauci. >> he's a democrat and he's a good friend of the cuomo family. he's been there for a long time and he's a nice guy. reporters like him because they think he's against me. he's not really against me. >> it is true. he's not against the president. dr. fauci gone out of his way to not be partisan and not to attack the president. he's been doing the same job for 36 years in both parties. so winning trust on the central issues is what the president wants to do. attacking scientists does not seem to be the way to go. yet he keeps on doing it and says the same thing.

people can see we are not rounding the turn as the president likes to say. the country is climbing towards a third peak. as we mention dr. gadli predicts all the estimations show more people will die. there is no backstop. in the face of that the president keeps on saying things that are not true. >> we save millions of lives by the decisions i have made. we closed up our country in the midst of the greatest economic boom in history and saved millions of lives. we are doing the right thing and we are doing much better than europe and our recovery is the strongest in the world. >> everything you heard flies in the face that you can see it yourself which can't help

undermines the president's ability. he keeps hammering away joe biden's son, calling him attorney general. just like he asked ukraine president to go after him. >> we got to get the attorney general to act. they got to act. they got to act fast. he got to appoint somebody. this is major corruption. this has to be known about before the election. this has to be done early. so the attorney general has to act. >> getting back to -- he says quote, hunter biden does not help put food on the table, hunter biden does not provide healthcare and solve covid. donald trump is focusing on that, nobody cares. now, he's attacking moderators of the next debate and today roughly after ending a 60-minute

interview, he's going after lesley stall. >> let's go to cnn's kaitlan collins. >> reporter: you heard the president talking about coronavirus, telling their governor to open up the state because they want the get back to normal life. his policy is bringing that about and he repeated that claim that he mentioned so many times that we are rounding the corner. dr. fauci disputed. of course, the president disputed his own medical expert and he continues to repeat that and he's talking about that 60-minute interview he did. when you speak to the president's political adviser that's not disclosing message

they had planned for two weeks to go. >> yeah, still no talk of a healthcare plan. americans seem to care about their healthcare and no talk about that he's talking about lesley stalls of all things. the first lady was supposed to be there. she's not because of symptoms from covid, certainly wish her the best. what's the latest on her health? >> reporter: the president has not said anything about it. he did not speak to reporters. he has not yet mentioned it tonight. it is unusual. the first lady tested negative and talking about the symptoms she had previously and today hours before this rally, that's when were two staffs announced she's cancelling and no longer attending the rally to the president and did not announce they're going to come to any of the subsequent rallies. they said that was due to a lingering cough she had from

recovering from coronavirus. we don't believe she's expected to have a speaking role here tonight. anderson, it is unusual because the president is trying to build al support with women voters, something he suffered from. over the last several years and his wife melania trump is not someone who often joins him on the campaign trail and has not since july 2019, i believe. >> kaitlan collins. i appreciate it. our new york times correspondent maggie haberman and also with us, our sanjay gupta and -- i am wondering where he's headed. is he thinking about this, is there a strategy here or just rage? >> there is rarely a strategy and we have seen it over the

years now and in the white house there is an attitude of mixed of resignation and frustration. the knives are out for each other among staffs. look, the president is very angry. i don't think it is a surprise. if you look at his twitter feed, you can see how angry he is. he's calling on the attorney general to take on criminal action against his political opponent ahead of election day. look, the race is not over, people should not call the race, this is no t the same as 2016. we didn't have level of early voting. a quarter of 2016 votes have

been cast. and it is a different field. >> the idea that the president is saying his attorney general has got to do something to stop joe biden. and just as he asked the president of ukraine to do it which led to his impeachment is extraordinary. it seems like oh yeah, this is another of his tweets or the things he says. that's like something from, you know, some country where they change leadership every couple of months and won't even begun. >> he says things out loud, does he? >> there is so much coming at you everyday from donald trump that you are tempted to pass it over. this is the president of the united states asking his attorney general to set up indictment if you will.

we don't know if it will get to that. he want to announce an investigation into joe biden because he feels that's the last hour of hope almost. if you go back to 2016 when he won, hef was talking to america voters about their grievances. he was talking about you feel left behind and you feel the democratic party come to an elite and they negotiated trade deals and they left too many illegal immigrants and should not have done that. now he's talking to voters about his own grievances and not theirs, his grievances against democrats and joe biden who tried to impeach him and who did impeach him. he's talking to them about a rigged election. he's talking to them about the way he has personally been treated by the media and

scientists and by tony fauci. the question is where are the issues that voters care about and about healthcare. that seems to be missing because it is all about him. >> peter hotez says we are likely to see thousands of cases the next two weeks and americans should take mental step to protect their health and mental health. a period of rapid acceleration. the estimate shows as many as 400,000 dead by february 1st. we are not rounding a turn. >> no, when you hear this sort of we are rounding the turn, that's the expectation and at

the same time you see the numbers going up. that's part of the number distress. be clear on the expectation part of helping some of those anxieties that come with this. i look at those rallies and i think 14 days away, this is one incubation period away from a diagnosis. people are at those rallies now, they'll be diagnosed after the election. that's the real of this and as far as the acceleration goes with dr. gadli, it is interesting because we can show the kwieunited states compares united union. if you go back to april time frame, we look at that graph, italy, you can tell there the green is about a week ahead. >> green is the european union and orange is the united states.

>> that's right. and so remember we are watching italy and seeing that number go up. and the european union was able to bring the number down. look to the far right to the graph now. the european union jumped over in terms of case numbers, the united states and they're about a week or two ahead. so that's why scott gadli is saying that, we are tracking the european union and there is significant acceleration of growth. everyone says the number of cases, but is that translating to hospitalization and it is. we are seeing many hospital systems around country that are full and they typically are and we are about to go into flu season. we are about to have worse covid disease.

that's the concern going through the next several months. >> what scenario do you see the president accepting -- if the president does not win the election, or you know through electoral college, do you see the president accepting the election? there has boneen so much talk about that. >> i personally, not much of a presidential language that this is a job he wants to do for four more years. he seems fairly tired. i think it would depend on the condition and how much he lost by and part of the reason republicans were trying to say that if he loses, they hope it would not be a close election, they hope it would be a big margin for joe biden because it makes it easier for the republican party to step away

from the president, from their party leader. i think it is a hypothetical, it is hard for me to answer. i think there is irresponsib irresponsibility when he says he won't accept the election results. >> if he remains president and the death toll, 200,000 more people die by february 1st, you reported that the president's friends tried to use his illness to his benefit. >> yes, when he was ill in the hospital, he was called by a friend and i was told by a source familiar with the conversations that one of them said to the president at least one of them said to the president, look, we want you to get well and now you can come at this and you can tell the american public that yes, you

understand covid better now and you know what they are feeling and that you can take this because the public of course does not trust him on covid, they know the polls. and turn that around. and they talked to the president about that. but the moment he walked up those steps and ripped up his mask like it was a sticky band aid, they knew he does not have the ability to reset. he never done that in his life and he diplomdn't do it this ti >> gloria and maggie and sanjay. . next tonight the president is -- well, he watches "60-minute" all the time.

in an interview of what he says about it. and senator chuck schumer on how close and far lawmakers are away from the stimulus deal that so many americans desperately need. hi, i'm chris rock.

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the president did " "60-minute" with lesley stalls. he's talking about it in his rally. >> you have to watch what we did in "60-minute." you will get a kick out of it. lesley stalls is not going to be happ happy. >> what are we learning about this interview? >> the president cut this interview short. he walked away did not do the walk-in talk. then he started to talk to her on twitter and posted a short video showing stalls not wearing a mask at the white house. she wore a mask right up to the interview and took it off and had to go back and put it back

afterwards. the portray her as the latest media's enemy. why do i attack you so that the people won't believe what you say. >> did he actually cut the interview short? did he walk out of the interview or is it just he didn't show up for the walk-in? >> it was a lengthy interview, he did cut it short. cbs did not say whether that moment was captured on camera. cbs says the white house only reported the interview -- if they publish it online, they would break privileges.

you know "60 minutes" is the most watched news in america and most citizens watch it. there is a biden's interview and a trump's interview both will air on sunday. we'll see what happens. the president believes that there is no one elite than the american president. >> brian stelter, appreciate it. thank you. michael steel endorsing joe biden. he joins the line. and chuck hagle is also joining us now with dana bash. dana, i want to get your reaction to whatever this president was pulling with lesley stalls. what do you make of it? >> that's classic, vintage donald trump. we have seen him walk out of

press briefings when he gets a question he does not like. back in the day when he was still doing interviews before he became president. i had the experience of him walking away from me during a gaggle after a debate and i am not alone. this is the way he operates and on top of that, a big reason why the president is going after anthony fauci the way he has because the words that fauci used on "60 minutes." we don't know the content of what happened. he's obviously in a bad place. he's lashing out and that's been evident in public and also some of my reporting from people talking to him in private. >> his ratings will be better than biden's rating than "60 minutes." >> secretary hagle, you are a registered republican and you

served as a republican in the senate. when you see other long time members and those worked in national security say they're voting for joe biden urging to defeat president trump, do you feel the republican party you knew is gone? >> anderson, the republican party i knew and cast my first vote in 1968 is no longer the party we have. it is the trump party. this business of politics is a tough business but it is a honorable business. when you have a leader who left decency behind and integrit integrity -- that's the differ.

with joe biden and barack obama and other democrats. we made things work because we put the country first. this latest episode with president trump with "60 minutes." it is so typical. to me this is a very clear picture of a very desperate candidate who knows he's losing. >> yeah, you are not talking about healthcare, you are talking about "60 minutes." you are talking about hunter biden or lesley stalls again. >> secretary hagle, what do republicans in the senate, does it continue to be the party of trump? is that the way it is now? is there a period where people pretend it never happened and

trying to go back some other way. will there be a possibility of partisanship? >> first part of the question, anderson, what happens to the republican party? there is going to be severe reckoning and review and the top down breaking it all down and asking themselves who are we and what do we believe in and what do we stand for? are we bigger than one person? is the party bigger than the president or any one electoral colle individual? >> they have to redefine who the republican party is. the second part of your question, i know biden very well. i have worked with him for 25 years. i know how he thinks and how he

governs. he's going to try to build a governing coalition. biden is united. he understands and brings the country together. in the end you have to compromise and do what's right for the country. a, that's ridiculous and we have seen some of his allies start to go away from him. what do you make of this? >> he knows it as well and it has been an environmen environment -- that's the code word that some of the senate republicans who are in top races and operatives who were trying to get republicans elected.

that's what they were referring to it right now of a bad environment. that's a code for donald trump is killing us right now out there. so many of these incumbents are in tough races not because they don't have good name id or they have been delivered for their constituents the way they promise but because they have been in this position for the past four years because they did not want to make their base mad because their base equals donald trump's base. they're in a position of having that situation but not reaching out to any people who they also need to actually win in their states. i want to tell you one example of how frustrated these senate republicans are. i was told that republicans ally, the president called him

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nancy pelosi says she hopes for a deal to be reached for another stimulus by the end of the week. they'll hold more talks tomorrow. mitch mcconnell advised the white house to not reach a deal. joining me now senator chuck schumer. thanks for being with us. >> why should the american people believe a deal could be done at the end of the week if one has not been done so far. >> speaker pelosi is trying very hard. there are real needs the american people have. the devastation is out there is

awful and people are dying and more are getting sick and people are losing their jobs and can't feed their kids and we don't have a testing or tracing regime. so when a second wave comes, we won't be prepared. the problem is as you pointed out has been mitch mcconnell. mcconnell does not want to get a deal one. his caucus is divided. if you can believe this, almost the majority of the republican caucus who don't want to spend any money, not one dime. we have the greatest economic crisis since the depression. we have the greatest healthcare since the spanish flu pandemic, people are hurting everywhere and they don't want to spend a dime. the people that control them, the hard right wealthy people who don't want to pay any money in taxes seemed to be running

the show. they are the ones standing in the way getting things done. that trump and the republican senates are standing in the way. >> is a compromise on a smaller deal better than no deal at all? >> well, there is so many needs for the american people and we are not at that stage yet. the only bill that mcconnell put on the floor, they're not small or skinny, they leave out testing and tracing and helping k i kids opening up schools. we can't have a deal that have virtually nothing. they leave out relief to

restaurants and rural hospitals and schools which definitely need help. they can't do anything. we are not at the stage talking about compromises. here is an example. mnuchin and the appropriations committee has a good chunk of this deal. pelosi says we need $143 million. mnuchin says we have $119 million. so we are getting close. let's give it to the senate appropriations committee and senate republicans. the senate republicans said we are not for $119 million, we are at zero. there is no room for negotiations. >> there is not even a choice of compromising a smaller bill? >> no, because mcconnell says no and he puts a bill on the floor, it is not a real bill. it is a motion, he makes a motion to table and they vote

against a motion to table. he's trying to show they're doing something and they can't do anything so they come up wp these stunts which everyone sees through. it is not even a real bill. so democrats have been critical of feinstein and earlier today you said you had a long serious talk with feinstein. can you say whether feinstein will make the top democratic? >> i had a long senate talk with senator feinstein and lever ave at that. >> can you tell us how it turned out? >> i have said what i wanted to say. the fact that you are still talking about contact tracing and needs for contact tracing is insane eight months into the pan

d pandemic. seems like we are rounding the turn into a truck coming at him. >> exactly. the president has been with no responsibilities. >> i asked he declare a national emergency on january 26. in the original bill we passed of $2 trillion back in april, there was some money to be given to the state for tracing and testing. trump still have not distributed. there is $9 billion that could be distributed. i have never seen such gross and obnoxious and cruel and ignorance and not caring in any administration. it is ail pappalling o f what t

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early voting around the country shattering record. 32 million people have already casted their ballots.

2 million is the number of ballots casted in california. in michigan, more than 3 million people already mailed in their ballots. it is remarkable. all this as the president continues to attack governor whitmer and the repercussion of the kidnap incident. thank you so much for being with us governor whitmer. when you heard the crowd chanting "lock her up" referring to you, i don't know if it is surprising and what you have all been through and come to expect and the president still continues to attack you in the wake of this is stunning.

>> it is. it is stunning. anderson, i think we all come to know that people like dr. fauci now have to have security because the rhetoric of this country have gotten out of control. i have been confronting death threa threats. this is combination of this rhetor rhetoric. it is a dangerous moment and i am remaining hopeful that people on both sides of the isle can stand up and take it on and insist and demand that america is not a place where we take, you know, give comfort who are domestic terrorists. >> the video was released in recent days, the kidnap was planned on you.

the idea that this was not just a bunch of people talking about doing something. they're actually planning things out, do you worry about there being other groups like this out there in other states planning this kind of stuff or you know preparing for this kind of stuff against other people? >> well, i do worry about it, anderson. >> the last four years we have seen an increase in hate speech and hate crimes and anti-semitism and the intolerance and it has been increasing exponentially over the last four years. this is a moment where we really need as a country a leader who can bring us together and speak to our highest aspirations and will not stand for this kind of criminal activity that we saw play out and we are continuing to see it play out as more information about this plot kidnapping and they're going to put me on trial and aparticip a

execute me. democrats and some republicans as well who have called and shared their stories with me and we are just trying to do our jobs in saving people's lives. i do think joe biden can do that. that's why come november 3rd, we are ready to start a new chapter. >> with so many people attending trump's rallies not wearing masks and not social distancing in your state, is there contact tracing done on people when they get sick? so they can trace how many people from a rally like this get sick? >> absolutely. >> we have been doing kak traco tracing and we have seen some of the rallies in michigan that

there has been covid spread. it is not surprising. if you listen to the epidemiologists and public health experts, it is it is expressing yourself loudly and without a mask on, being closely packed in together. these are the things that we know contribute to covid spread. it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. whether it's ohio, indiana, illinois, minnesota, wisconsin, or michigan, we're all seeing covid numbers continuing to rise. i think that's what reinforces, hopefully for many americans, is that we still don't have a national strategy around testing. we still don't have a national strategy around how we're going to distribute vaccines when they're available, how will we ensure all our hospitals and front line workers never run out of ppe again. it's been states on their own. and as we go into this second wave, if you can even call it a

second wave, because that assumes you got your arms around the first one as a nation, which we haven't, it is still a dangerous reality we're all confronting. >> for those who are worried about voting on election day, for those who are going to be voting on election day, we saw armed guys break into the statehouse in michigan, screaming at legislators, screaming at police. this is i guess some of the people who were involved in the plot against you, they actually got together and met, the president was saying "liberty michigan." will we have folks showing up on election day, calling themselves poll watchers, to intimidate people? is michigan prepared for that sort of thing? >> we are preparing. i'm fortunate that we have a great attorney general and secretary of state. we're making sure that every voter who waits until november 3 and wants to go vote on election

day is safe and that their ballot will be counted. we're running tabletop exercises in preparation for this. i also think it's important to remind people, you can vote right now in michigan. to my fellow michiganders, you can drop a mail-in ballot off at dropboxes now. >> governor, we appreciate your time. thank you. ahead, a key decision on whether grand jurors can speak in the breonna taylor case. 133 million americans have pre-existing conditions

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breaking news now from louisville, a judge has ruled that two anonymous grand jurors in the case of the officers involved in the death of breonna taylor are allowed to talk. kevin, grand jury members are usually meant to remain secret. why did the judge allow them to speak out? >> when their service as a grand juror was over, they wanted to make sure the public was getting the full truth, that there was transparency in the grand jury proceedings. >> the attorney general, doug

cameron, released a statement that says, as special prosecutor it was my decision to ask for an indictment on charges that could be proven under kentucky law. indictments obtained in the absolute of sufficient proof under the law do not stand up and are not fundamentally fair for anyone. >> on behalf of my cameras, attorney general cameron made that decision. he didn't put that to the grand jurors, although he put out to the public, shortly after the indictment was read out loud for all to see, that it was in fact their decision. so that public trust was eroded a little bit. i think that awakened that duty within our clients to speak out and file the action that we did. now we're trying to help set that record straight. >> were you surprised that the kentucky attorney general decided not that appeal the judge's ruling, to allow your clients to speak? because he had fought to allow the grand jury proceedings to

rain secr remain secret. >> with the statement being released, that the grand jurors didn't agree with the decision, he realized there wasn't any point in continuing the fight. >> are there any other options? >> legally, the family for breonna taylor and their legal team will be exploring those options. once an individual is presented to the grand jury and no charges come out of that presentation, it's not precluding any future indictments or presentations. so at least in theory, another grand jury could hear more evidence involving detective hankison, sergeant mattingly, and detective cosgrove, and decide to put more charges out there. that's something that remains to be seen. >> do your clients have a message to the family of breonna taylor? >> the message from our clients is just that they want to make

sure that everyone got the truth. i think the ruling today from judge o'connell was very thorough, very well-written. and i think it's providing a better chance for that truth to come out. we hope that helps that family heal a little bit. >> was this their first time serving on a jury for your clients? >> it was, yes. it was their first time serving as grand jurors. >> do they feel justice was served? >> i don't think they really wanted to weigh in on the justice aspect of what happened at that proceeding. i think what they wanted to do was make sure that people knew what really happened, who made what decisions, and why. >> kevin, i appreciate your time. thank you very much. >> thank you, it was a pleasure. and that's it for us. the news continues. i want to hand things over to chris for "com"cuomo prime time"

>> thank you, chris. 14 days until election day. the two presidential campaigns are opposite realities. trump has us wondering if he's okay and wondering where biden is. now is the last chance for these guys. many of you solidified your feelings about who to vote for in the two weeks before the election. here we are. trump is likely going to win or lose based on what you think of the pandemic and the response. he knows that. so the question is, why does he think he can hide from covid? he says "we're rounding the corner." for that to be true, it is only true if we're rounding a corner and right after it is a huge cliff. and all the time that he had to build a bridge, the bricks of which would be testing and helping states with tracing, the mortar of it would have been the economic pain that he can't get