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hello and welcome to our viewers joining us here in the united states and all around the world. you are watching "cnn newsroom." i'm rosemary church. just ahead, donald trump rallies across battleground states promising a return to normal life as covid cases climb steadily across the country. his opponent joe biden lays low prepping for the final debate and deploying one big name surrogate. it's all motivating record numbers of early voters. and missing international travel? there might be an app for that. we will tell you how technology
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could overcome coronavirus travel barriers. good to have you with us. with less than two weeks until election day, u.s. president donald trump is trying to convince voters he has the covid-19 pandemic under control. he took his message to pennsylvania on tuesday, a state critical to his re-election. >> we're rounding the turn on the pandemic. job growth, safe vaccines that quickly end the pandemic. it's ending. normal life, that's all we want. you know what we want? normal life. >> but the u.s. is far from normal. daily coronavirus infections are soaring at levels not seen in
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months, but that's not the story the president wants to convey on the campaign trail. and it appears his supporters crowded next to each other on tuesday, many without masks, may be comfortable with that message. cnn's caitlkaitlyn collins was eerie, pennsylvania. as president trump rallied his supporters. she has more on that campaign stop. >> reporter: as the president was rallying his supporters on tuesday night with two weeks to go before the election, he seemed to recognize the dire position he's in when it comes to political polling because he said that if it had been before the pandemic, he likely wouldn't have been in erie, pennsylvania, but told the crowd he had to show up given that his poll numbers are behind joe biden in pennsylvania, a state he carried in 2016. that rally came a few hours after the president sat down with cbs's leslie stall at the white house for an interview for
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"60 minutes." the president abruptly ended the interview after about 45 minutes because he grew frustrated with the line of questioning from stall. we're told he left the room and did not come back to do what was supposed to be a taped portion of the interview with the vice president, mike pence. you saw the president go on twitter taunting leslie stall for at one point not wearing a mask and then he threatened to release the interview before cbs news airs it next sunday. of course, whether or not he ultimately does still remains to be seen. what you're seeing two weeks to go before the election, the president is making his closing message. attacks on reporters like cbs news. attacks including the debate moderator but also on dr. anthony fauci, someone he has repeatedly gone after in recent days. this is not exactly the closing message that aides hoped he
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would have given that he is trailing joe biden in so many states with so few days to go. kaitlyn collins, cnn, traveling with the president in pennsylvania. tuesday marked the second day in a row joe biden took a break to prepare for thursday night's debate. as arlitt saenz reports, one big name will help joe biden on election day. >> reporter: while joe biden prepares he'll have help out on the campaign trail from a long-time friend who happens to be the democratic party's biggest surrogate. president obama is expected to campaign for biden in philadelphia. his first in person campaign appearance for his former vice president. he will hold a drive-in style rally following the same coronavirus standards including
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social distance as this pandemic continues to play out. now this will be just one of a few appearances obama makes to vouch for his former vice president. the biden campaign believes the former vice president can help mobilize black men, latinos and others to get out there and vote. while this will be a solo stop, there is a possibility that biden and obama could appear together on the campaign trail in the closing days before the election. for now he's lending his help. for biden, he is expected to spend most of the day preparing. the former vice president expects the president to bully and threaten his way through.
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they will foe on it in the coming days as he prepares to face off one more time against the president. >> as arlitt reported there, former president barack obama is about to hit the campaign trail for joe biden. obama is taking his message to social media. here's his latest post on twitter. >> we can come out of this moment stronger than before. voting doesn't accomplish that on its own, but we can't accomplish that without voting. i know there's plenty out there to make people feel cynical and plenty of people are going to seize on that to convince you that your vote doesn't matter. it's not new. it's one of the oldest voter suppression tactics there is. justice, equality and progress on so many issues.
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>> all of the drama. they have shattered early voting records. abby phillips takes a look at who's casting these early votes. >> don't procrastinate, vote early. >> reporter: just two weeks to go and that's the way many americans are feeling about the 2020 election. >> i'd rather get it done and over with and do it early, that way i know i've voted. >> reporter: so far more than 32 million ballots have been cast nationwide, rather than by mail or in person. on the first day of in person voting in wisconsin, voters battling lines and rising covid numbers. >> if you don't voice your opinion, you don't have a right to complain. that's what it's about. >> reporter: huge lines becoming a familiar sight all over the country. pending legal challenges in several states including some
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battleground states are far from over. >> it's one of the most important elections obviously. there's so much riding on the line. >> reporter: in pennsylvania the supreme court ruling on monday, the state can count mail-in ballots if they're sent in on election day even if they don't have a legible postmark. >> we got a ruling yesterday that was ridiculous where they can count ballots after the election is over. >> john roberts. >> we're going to wait until after november 3rd and start announcing states? it's crazy. >> reporter: pennsylvania state law says the kourchting of absentee ballots cannot begin until election day which allows ballots to receive three days after the leks day. >> you won't have the precise number but you'll know where
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things are going. >> reporter: they're accepting the deadline to accept mail-in ballots postmarked on election day through november 12th. the legal battle is still ongoing. as of this morning in north carolina, 1.9 million ballots have been cast. that represents 25% of the state's registered voters and in florida, voters are turning out in droves on the first day of early in person voting. the state says more than 366,000 floridians cast votes. by this morning, florida was just shy of 3 million ballots cast overall. the same time four years ago florida had 1.6 million votes cast. >> if you aren't going to vote, don't complain. that's the way i look at it. >> abby phillips, cnn, washington. joining me is david gergen. a former presidential advisor to nixon, ford, ragan, and clinton.
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thank you so much, sir, for talking with us. >> thank you. it's a privilege. >> so two weeks away from this critical election and early voting has started casting 32 million votes so far whampt does that signal two? onto the surp face, to the extent we know the contents of the ballot, they seem to favor democrats over republican. republicans are holding a fire in greater numbers on election day two weeks from now. i think in contrast to earlier this year, republicans were raising the numbers. republicans seemed they would be
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charging out of the gate. now the momentum is clearly for the democrats. they have an avalanche of money coming in. the latest "new york times" poll, one of the most respected has come out in the last 24 hours, with biden holding a 9 point lead. a little bit has been shaved off, but not very much. very importantly the new polling that goes in. and even though the economy -- the president is a good closer. can't count him out? at this moment every indication is that joeshd is sitting on the victory. >> on tuesday president trump abruptly ended an interview with leslie stall on "60 minutes" and
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skipped the interview with mike pence. ironically he later attacked stall for not wearing a mask. what did you make of all of that? >> i didn't make much of it. there have been so many erratic moves by this president, especially since he was diagnosed with covid. it's almost these little -- i don't know if he's taking any drugs but i can tell you it's good and faulty. he's not good at the policy issues anyway but he's been good at a stage master in capturing the public's attention. this time around it doesn't seem to work. it's almost as if people -- really great tv series end after four, five, six seasons. people become bored. yeah, i think trump may have run
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out of character and they are looking for something fresher instead of going on snore joy right in four years. >> mccraven said he voted for joe biden. the world no longer looks up to america because of the actions of donald trump. >> yes. >> there's also an ad put together by officials who worked under former republican president george w. bush and other gop senators distancing from trump. this is almost unheard of, isn't it? >> it is. >> what is the significance of this? >> it means the bands is breaking. a lot of people have been unhappy and frustrated. tried not to get in the way. there's no one who believes he
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is going to be a new donald trump in the next 14 days. it looks like he's going to ride it down to defeat, but be careful about this. the republicans may have a couple of tricks under their sleeves. right now joe biden is running a much better campaign. >> david gergen, always a pleasure to get your analysis. >> thank you. good to talk to you. >> you too. be sure to tune in to cnn for the final presidential debate. our coverage begins 7 p.m. eastern on thursday, 12 a.m. in london and 7 a.m. in hong kong on friday. and still to come, fear looming as depression, not what the holidays are coming and covid-19 could curtail thanksgiving. is there a more fascinating place than audible? no. and i've done the research. of course you have. audiobooks, podcasts,
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as erica hill reports. >> reporter: the dreaded second wave now washing over the u.s. >> nearly every region in the state has seen an increase in covid-related hospitalizations in the last week. >> reporter: illinois seeing a rise. 14 hitting new peaks. it's not just hospitals setting new records. nationwide the virus is surging. >> these numbers are grim. they are going the wrong direction. >> reporter: undergrads at the university of michigan now at stay at home order for the next two weeks. students account for more than 60% of new cases in the area. michigan is among the 31 states seeing a rise in new cases over the past week. just one, hawaii, seeing a decline. >> over the next five or six months, i think up through february or march of next year, we are heading into the worst part of this pandemic. >> reporter: new case numbers typically lower on mondays.
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this week the u.s. hit 50,000 topping a number interest months ago. they didn't know somebody. it shows you how common it is. >> reporter: that silence spreading new concern for the holidays. >> those people we love and trust could also be carrying the virus. this is a silent killer. >> reporter: the head of the national institutes of health, the latest expert to announce his own family won't be gathering. >> for the first time in 27 years there won't be any family thanksgiving. it is not safe to take that kind of chance. >> reporter: staying safe over the next several months can be lonely. >> a huge impact on mental health. you're going to get sad. you're going to get scared. you're going to get depressed. normal response. >> reporter: channelling that stress into exercise, meditation or virtual gatherings can help
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and there's some encouraging news. a new study finds ventilation, including opening windows, spacing, desk shields and hand washing greatly reduce the spread in classrooms hopefully allowing more scenes like this. >> good morning, how are you. >> reporter: a bright spot amid an uncertain future. one thing most health experts agree on, the next few weeks will be likely difficult. colorado state epidemiologist said they're in the fall stage. one in four hospitals is being used by a covid-19 patient. in new york, erica hill, cnn. so let's talk about this with dr. jorge rodriguez. he joins us from los angeles. thank you for talking with us. >> my pleasure. >> this country has lost nearly 221,000 people and 42 states report an increase in hospitalizations over the past two weeks. former fda commissioner dr.
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scott gottleib said the u.s. is one week away from a rapid ex l acceleration. we have to believe what has been said for the past nine months, the virus is here, it's here for a long time and we need to practice the holy trinity, masks, separation six feet from other people and hand washing. there's no room for error right now. there really isn't. >> yeah, exactly. the mayor of miami beach is accusing florida's governor of pursuing a herd immunity strategy. the very same approach advocated by dr. scott atlas who now advises president trump. how concerned are you that the trump administration and governors who support the president are following this strategy and explain the consequences of an approach like that? >> well, i'm very concerned and i have been all along.
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there are people that are playing politics with our lives. i am a miami hometown boy so this one really strikes me very closely. desantis has obviously been riding whatever president trump wants him to do. they have put politics before lives. the danger is that once this ball starts rolling down the hill, it's going to gain momentum. if you look at the graphs, it really is about to explode in a couple of weeks. we are one big country and what happens in florida will eventually happen now in iowa and nebraska. if we open windows and kids wear masks and face shields while sitting eight feet apart, then there is a chance schools could offer a safer in-person learning
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experience. do you agree with that? is that a workable model? depe depending on what schools do. some schools don't have 8 feet between children. >> this is very difficult. obviously for complete growth they obviously should be with their peers. what i think would work is to establish these norms and to have a rotating system. we need to be fluid. we need to have some kids coming in, another third on thursday tires, we need to be inventive. it can work. we need to follow separation, shields, washing our hands. >> of course, it depends how many kids. the kids at my kids school, there were 2400 of them. it would be defendant for all of them to a comeau daet.
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what do you say to american families that want to get together in a month and others who are planning to dine or party together. >> i say this year we need to isolate and perhaps not see each other so next year when we do get together nobody is missing. i say that we really need to buckle down and be be very cautious. there are other ways of communicating. we don't have to gather in large groups this year. as a matter of fact, one of the most dangerous things that we do is gather with family and friends who we think just because they are family and friends, they're safe. you can still love your family. we don't always have to see them. let's think of the future as opposed to right now. >> very wise advice.
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himself by supporters in a crowded rally in eerie, pennsylvania. he attacked joe biden and dr. anthony fauci for trying to convey scientific facts against covid-19. gretchen whitmer spoke earlier to anderson cooper about the president's rhetoric. >> we all have come to know that people like dr. fauci now have to have security because the rhetoric in this country has gotten so out of control. i've been confronting death threats since april when sights were first set on me. this is the culmination of this rhetoric and inciting and demonizing leaders, public servants just trying to save lives. >> for those on election day, we saw armed guys break into the statehouse in michigan screaming at legislators, screaming at
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police. this is i guess where some people involved in the plot against you actually kind of got together and met. the president said liberate. are you worried folks are going to show up on election day saying they're poll watchers, whether it's that, or to intimidate people. is michigan prepared for that sort of thing? >> we are preparing. i am fortunate that we have a great attorney general and our secretary of state, we're working very closely to make sure that every voter that waits and knows how their boll lot will be executed. you can vote right now in michigan. i encourage you to vote now. if you have an absentee ballot, don't toss it in the mail. drop it off now.
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and black women around michigan are taking the governor's advice to vote ahead of election day. they're also going into their communities to make sure people know their vote can make a difference. cnn's kate bolduan has our report. >> we see you ain't registered. let's get you registered, okay? >> i think that the apathy has just grown and has just become so pervasive in our communities because people are just trying to survive that we have to get back to empowering people. >> let's cycle back this way. >> reporter: 29-year-old wendy caldwell lidell has no shortage of energy. she doesn't work for any campaign, but since august she says she spends three days a week every week between her full-time job and taking care of two kids talking about their vote matters.
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>> this is our survival now. what happens politically is a part of our suffer viefal and there's no escaping that. >> 10,704. what does that number mean for you? >> is that how many votes trump won by. >> that's exactly how many votes. >> so that number, it hurts. it hurts. >> reporter: wayne county, which includes detroit, went for hillary clinton by a wide margin in 2016, but she got about 76,000 fewer votes there than obama did in four votes. are you voting for joe biden or are you more voting against donald trump? >> 80% against donald trump, 20% for joe biden. i would say that. >> what does that mean? >> it means that i know as a voter and as a black woman there's jobs that i have to do in order to get a representative
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who will come close to protecting my people in avs, and there's another representative bear. at 63 years old she sees the choice this election a bit differently. >> i'm 100% voting for biden. >> does biden make you excited? >> yes, yes, yes, he does. his enthusiasm. his past record. it's look a charge. >> reporter: president trump says often he has done more for the black community. >> that's -- >> reporter: no. i don't need to finish. >> that's [ bleep ]. you know what i'm saying? he has done nothing. i've had people saying, i didn't vote. i say, if you didn't vote, you voted for him. >> reporter: amber davis is one of those detroiters who voted
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for obama in 2012 and didn't vote in 2016. why didn't you vote in 2016? >> i didn't want trump and i didn't want hillary. i didn't really care who won that election. >> reporter: what's your plan this election? >> i don't like biden but i'm voting for biden. this coronavirus. everything that's going on, it's important. he got to go. >> reporter: one path that we missed. a sign the trump campaign knows this, it has a sign down the street specifically targeting black voters in detroit. how unusual is that to see the republican campaign open an office. >> i've never seen it. never, ever before. >> reporter: what does 2 tell you? >> the importance of michigan
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and the black vote. >> are you going to help me? >> reporter: everyone talks about it on tv. they always talk about how black women are the backbone of the democratic party. >> we are. we are. black women are the backbone. >> do you think the democratic party takes you for granted? >> absolutely. absolutely they take us for granted because they know that black women are going to help them get the big wins. >> what does that say about the country? >> says we've still got a long way to go. when the backbone of the country is the most neglected. >> reporter: this is a slice of the electorate, of course. not necessarily predictive of how the election is going to swing. regardless of who wins, what is clear here, both parties have a lot of work to do, to either hold on to or win over the support of these passionate,
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reliable voters, black women. kate bolduan, cnn, new york. later today house speaker nancy pelosi and treasury secretary steven mnuchin are expected to resume talks in an effort to find common ground on a major stimulus deal. pelosi seems upbeat about the progress but some senate republicans are not so optimistic. cnn's john defterios joins us from abu dhabi. good to see you. there's a determination to keep talks going although mitch mcconnell doesn't seem to be very enthusiastic. how much pressure is coming to deliver something before election day. >> reporter: this is the change, rosemary. a growing factor. speaker pelosi and the treasury secretary are still talking and november 3rd is the deadline. you can see voters are now saying we want to be involved.
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we want something on the table. 7 out of 10 think they want a comprehensive deal. i thought this was an interesting twist as well. 56% of the republicans are saying the same. what's on the table? 2.2 trillion from the house democrats. the white house said it would go as high as 1.8. it's the so-called skinny bill. let's take a listen. >> you can't have a deal that has virtually nothing. even the one thing they say they might be for, they leave out relief to restaurants, lev out relieve to independent stages. they can't bring themselves to did anything. we're not at the taj of talking
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compromise. >> the gap is so wide suggesting 72% of americans want a comprehensive deal put forward in the house. it passed at the end of june. the key points are the unemployment insurance benefits. they are around $300 on average. they would double to $600. even the controversial measure for the republicans bailing out state and local governments. there's a lot of support out there for that. dare i say of course voters want handouts and they're here. it will have to be paid back. >> john defterios. thank you. several regions facing tougher restrictions. not all governments are on board. a look at the push back when we come back. ms.
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ireland is now gearing up to begin its second nationwide lockdown in an attempt to regain control of the coronavirus. the country will move to the toughest level of restrictions and urge people to stay home for the next six weeks. parts of northern england will face tougher measures. it's forcing the greater manchester region into its tier three alert level after failed negotiations with city officials over financial aid. for more cnn's selma azeez is standing by and nic robertson is joining us from london. nic, ireland's six-week lockdown is an extreme solution. how necessary is this? >> reporter: well, the government's health advisors met
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two weeks ago saying the country was on tier 3. they said the country should go to tier 5. the prime minister addressed the nation saying that it was necessary now to follow the advice of the scientists telling people that only essential retail stores would be open. that people could not congregate, not sort of mix households indoors or even in gardens. they could do it in public places. the retail stores, only the essential stores could remain open. people have to limit their travel to within five kilometers, three miles of their homes. that was the limit for their exercise as well. all of this, a very tough lockdown again. people being told that only essential workers and the
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difficulty for people now is a concerns. >> i would say devastated, to be honest. i think it was flagged it was going to happen, but at the same time i was hoping that maybe common sense would prevail because from our point of view, we feel retail is a very safe environment. >> if you are strong enough, you can exercise. with a second shutdown many people will find it hard. >> reporter: there's a real frustration among people in ireland. on the one hand, across the scientists, the government advisers went public. they're having a conversation behind closed doors. there's others that feel the government should have moved sooner rather than waiting two weeks for the lockdown. to give you some perspective,
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nationally the infection rate is about the sort of middle bracket for europe. 69 per 100,000. there are parts of ireland where it's very high. tipping levels that are not seen elsewhere in europe. about 900 per 100,000. so there is a real sense of concern that the health services could be stretched beyond capacity. they don't have the reserves that some have in ireland. >> there are limited options. that's the problem, isn't it? selma, let's go to you now. after talks broke down, manchester faces strict measures. what comes next. >> reporter: well, rosemary, it's played out quite dramatically. we've had a bitter political dispute between man chester and
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officials in downing street. yesterday, the government said they put down a noon deadline or they would act unilaterally to impose the restrictions. the deadline came and went and no agreement was made. the mayor said the reason he's refused to implement the measures so far is because he's fighting for low paid workers. he said the city needs a greater package to deal with the restrictions. he was in front of the cameras at the sometitime he got the ney would be forced into tier 3 restrictions. >> this is brutal to be honest, isn't it? this is no way to run the country in a national crisis. it isn't.
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this is not right. they should not be doing this. grinding people down trying to accept the least that they can get away with. 22 million pounds to fight the situation that we are in is frankly disgraceful. >> reporter: now you hear him mention that figure of 22 million. it was later made clear by the health secretary, matt hancock, that figure being offered is 60 million pounds. the mayor that's setting a precedent. what is the strategy? each city, town, region going to spend days negotiating their own restrictions, measures, financial package while the virus spreads through the area? is that what it means? second and most importantly,
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compliance. they called on people to comply with the rules but the question is if a city like manchester feels like rules are being forced on it by the central government, will people actually follow through? rosemary? >> it is a difficult situation all around. thank you to you boldt. a new app could help make airline travel during the pandemic safer and get more customers back on board. we'll have the details. back in a moment. malcolm, audi's got more than audiobooks. of course. podcasts. originals. bestsellers. future bestsellers. sleep stories. mal... hey, no! roxy! audiobooks, podcasts, audible originals, all in one place.
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cafe pacific group is taking an economic blow. the company announced nearly 6,000 people will lose their jobs in an effort to cut costs. most of the cut positions will come from the company's hong kong headquarters. hundreds more jobs that had gone unfilled will also be eliminated. well, for the sake of the airline industry and for the joy of globe trotting, the world needs to get moving again even as the pandemic rages. there might be an app for that.
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it's called common pass. it will be tested on a trans atlantic flight landing in newark, new jersey, later today. cnn's anna stewart explains. >> reporter: the world is a patch work of travel restrictions. closed borders, quarantines, testing requirements all of which keeps changing. it's enough to stop people from traveling all over. that's damaging for the whole global economy. however, one solution to travel could be a passport. not this kind but this. a digital health passport. >> reporter: the app is being developed by the commonwealth foundation. the concept is simple enough. a traveller checks the app to see what the covid-19 rules are at their destination. for example, it may require a pcr test 24 hours before travel. the app tells the traveller where they can get a government
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approved covid-19 test. if negative, the app generates a qr code allowing it to be scanned by airline staff and border officials. testing prior to travel has its limitations. >> you don't know if that person is safe to fly because they were pcr negative which is meaningless if they were about to turn pcr positive five minutes after the test. >> reporter: common pass says screening minimizes the risk and is already a requirement before entry between london, hong kong, singapore. if it goes well, they hope more airlines will use it in the future. >> we've managed to have over 50 countries that have come together through dialogue that
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led up to common pass. most of the world's biggest airlines and biggest airports, some of the realizations is this kind of system has to work in a global way. it can't only work within one bubble or one travel corridor. >> reporter: if a covid-19 vaccine is successfully developed, common pass hopes travelers will be able to log their vaccination into the app. yes, there are concerns too little is known about vaccine efficacy. >> i wouldn't feel comfortable as a minister of health to be stamping and sealing the legislation. >> immunity passports are pie in the sky, at least for now. helping people to take to the skies with an app that simplifies and coordinates covid-19 travel restrictions is at least on the horizon. anna stewart, cnn, london. and thanks foryour company. i'm rosemary church. "early start" is up next. have a great day.
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