his anger. those are some of the comments that undecided voters gave us in our focus group directly after the debate. the president needs to change that perception and specifically in the minds of some of want really squishy biden -- potential biden voters. people that really don't know they want to vote for biden but they are not sure they stomach another four years for trump. he has to change that perception. >> thanks so much. don't miss the final debate tomorrow night on cnn. a special program beginning 7:00 p.m. eastern time. the news continues. i want to hand it over to chris for cuomo primetime. >> i am chris cuomo and welcome to primetime. we have breaking news on our watch. both iran and russia are actively interfering with our election right now. this comes from the head of our intelligence community just tonight. >> we would like to alert the

public that we have identified two foreign actors, iran and russia have taken specific actions to influence public opinion relating to our elections. we have already seen iran sending spoofed e-mails designed to intimidate voters, incite social unrest and damage president trump. >> they were sent to voters in florida and elsewhere, threatening them to vote for trump. officials say those were not from the proud boys. the proud boys denied any involvement in this. but our officials say they are from iran. then the director of national intelligence also said there was an additional motive to hurt trump. we have seen no evidence of that and none was offered. the house homeland security

committee tweeted this. do not listen to ratliff partisan hack. followed up to say americans should listen to the fbi director instead. now, about the e-mails that we have seen. our government said, again, iran is behind messages like this. i say it twice because a lot of you are getting them. they are threatening. it is not from the proud boys according to iran. all right. you will see threats. a lot of people getting these have already voted but still very scary to receive one, i am sure. the choice to use the proud boys is relevant. it is proof the president's influence at home and abroad is real because he talked this group up. he made them a target of opportunity for our enemies. remember his message to the

hateful proud boys of stand back and stand by at the last debate. now we know at least one foreign actor was listening. these foreign efforts are expected. we saw them in 2016 and see them all of the time. what is not expected for their goal to be given a boost by our president. no word from him about the findings tonight, and the timing of the findings also very interesting. they come as president obama hit the trail today for joe biden. and he gave the most forceful case against trump that we have heard in the campaign. we have all of the high points and the analysis of what former president obama said. but we have to see just how big of a shadow that he will cast over trump's fate in the election. certainly obama seemed more concerned about our national security from events like this tonight before the revelations than trump has even after them. so, let's discuss the threat level involved in what we

learned tonight in the breaking news and what can be done about it. gentlemen, thank you very much. so, we heard from the dni and the fbi. they said iran and russia got their hands on voter information. andrew, what does that mean, voter information? how invasive do we believe it could be and what can they do with this type of information? >> that is a really good question, chris. it is not clear from the statements that we got at the press conference tonight exactly how the iranians or the russians access voter information. there is some voter information that is pretty easily acquired online. that is very different than actually probing the voter registration databases of individual states and staging a cyber intrusion into those systems and stealing information. that is the sort of activity that we saw back in 2016. we know the russians probed the voter registration databases of

every state. if that is what is happening here, and again it is not clear that is not how they described it. altering voter registration information can be a very serious threat because you can eliminate many people from the voter rolls when they show up on election day they don't get to cast a vote. the statement was pretty vague. just said they acquired voter information. >> first of all, jim, great to see you. thank you for being on the show tonight. and the idea of what andrew is talking about, that it was a little vague. does that mean they are still developing a understanding of the situation or does it mean how much do you tell the american public about the risk? >> well, unfortunately, chris, you know you have to wonder about what weremotives at work here. why a sudden press conference

that evidenced itself on the heels of president obama's pretty historic speech. >> i am glad that you said it, jim. i didn't want to seem cynical about it. the timing is a little curious, right. they have known about the e-mails. they could have told us about it. they could have fleshed more of it out so it wasn't so vague about what they were able to pass on. it is interesting that you see that suspicious as well. >> well, i do. just given the track record of ratcliff, you know, he used intelligence for political purposes. unfortunately i hate to say it but you have to address what he had with skepticism. just to add on about what happened in 2016. the russians that we saw voter registration rules. we saw 39 states and probably

did it with all 50. i remember speculating about what the purpose was for some future use. just a historical note here. the other thing about the statement that the dni made, you mentioned russia and went on to iran. russia has been interfering in the election all along. i would continue to believe that russia poses far more of a threat. i think we are going to see more of this. i can make a case if it helps them. >> the proud boys stuff helps him, because it is scaring people that were sent messages that didn't vote for him. we have the e-mails.

i reported on them last night about what we learned so far. no proof offered the intention to hurt trump. why not? you know it will be something people will only know what you can show. you showed the e-mails. why didn't you show what was put out there that was bad for trump. if you didn't put out proof, it smacks of politics. >> it really does. i will tell you from my own experience having been through the process with the director in 2016, the intelligence community doesn't come out with an official analytical judgment along the lines of the iranians are trying to hurt president trump without rock solid evidence to prove that. we got none of that evidence tonight from dni ratcliff who has proven himself to be an overtly political influence on the intelligence process with the things he has been involved in over the last couple of weeks, releasing intelligence

for political purposes. it is hard to imagine how the two instances that he cited in his comments hurt president trump. the proud boys issue that you mentioned. he also said that there were indications that iran had a video that implied people can cast fraudulent ballots from overseas. that supports a main line of president trump's argument that the election could be replete with fraud. i am not buying it at this point. i think we should all have a skeptical eye at that until we see proof. >> right. you guys are a blessing tonight because you represent the two schools that were out there tonight. the two different institutions. not only didn't they offer proof, but there are two other suggestions. one, ray did not echo the head of the fbi, did not oaklaecho w ratcliff said. he doubled down on do not

believe internet reports about votes not counting or the election being messed with. here is the weird part about that. we don't need iran and russia to plant the idea in our head. the president bangs on it all of the time. what is more menacing to the people's state of mind than their own leader telling them it is fraudulent. the foreign narratives agree with the president and vice versa. it will be nice to take at face value when the director of national intelligence and the director of the fbi. it would be nice to accept what they said at face value and not spend all of this time parsing and analyzing what is really going on. that is a sad commentary. >> then, more sad commentary.

the "washington post" has reporting, andy, that the president is increasingly upset with christopher ray and thinking about replacing him as the head of the fbi. this can't help because i am sure that he did not like he was not in line with the dni tonight. the president of the united states probably didn't like the head of the fbi saying not to worry about our election being fraudulent and that your votes will count. what do you think he would do it before the election? >> you know, anything is possible with this president at any moment. what do we know about this president? we know he really does not like it when the people uncomfortabl. chris made statements that

directly contradicts the president's false narrative about voting fraud and electoral fraud. that will not be taken well by this president. i can tell you that he does not like it when people do not tow the political line he prefers. so, even if the election does not go his way, it is possible that he comes in after the election and removes the director simply out of spite. >> hey jim, last question and i will let you guys go. thank you so much on a busy night. do you think it makes it more or less likely that the president has been outspoken about wanting the attorney general to investigate biden even after the doj passed ones it latest investigation and bringing any charging about unmasking and that him saying he wants director wray to investigate biden. do you think it makes it less likely it happens because it would look so overtly political.

>> exactly. it seems to me from the president's perspective, sort of counter productive for his purposes to say things like that. i just don't think they will happen. i do not understand, like so many things i don't understand about the president, why he is doing that. you know, and how it helps his cause. >> how could you have ever believed we would be having a conversation on national television about foreign adversaries doing things to interfere in the election that are less damaging than what our own president has been saying about our election process. that is where we are gentlemen. thank you for making sense of it for the audience tonight. i appreciate it. the best to both families. god bless. all right. so, joe biden has a not secret at all weapon who hit today with rieshs fury for the country.

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>> there are so many people around the country who are desperate for something to sway them in something that is absolutely a binary choice. the country will move in one of two different directions after the election. for those that are open, boy did they get a powerful solicitation tonight. former president obama unplugged and unloaded on trump and the status quo.

>> he hasn't shown any interest in doing the work or treating the presidency like a reality show he can use to get attention. by the way even then his tv ratings are down. you know that upsets him. he has a secret chinese bank account. how is that possible? how is that possible? a secret chinese bank account. can you imagine if i had a secret chinese bank account when i was running for re-election? you think fox news might have been concerned about me. they would have called me beijing barry. >> he was just getting warmed up. you have to hear what he said about the president's character and the pandemic.

he is not running, right. i am sure a lot of democrats would be happy if he were. biden will have to deliver the knockout. i know they say he is getting ready for the debate. eventually he will have to make his own luck here. win people over here get put on the map himself. a big part of that will happen tomorrow night. remember the real enemy for the president is the pandemic. will he be able to hide from it. everybody thinks it will be biden and his son. likely to be about the president and the pandemic. dana bash here tonight.

dana. fair assessment this is a different obama that we have seen. >> absolutely. this breaks the former president code. this is a former president that does not do it lightly. all of the reporting and everything we have seen and heard from him up until the convention. he didn't want to wade into the political pool too often even though he felt that his successor poses a threat to democracy. now it is time to get out there and get people to vote. getting people fired up.

am i going to make a difference. yes, you are. just a total takedown of president trump in a way that i don't think we would see and hear from a former president about his successor. >> it is necessary for joe biden. >> i am not saying that it was a bad thing. i think that it is a sign of the time. >> so, tim, he hit him with a 1-2 punch. what he said about trump, the man. that is just him. no. no. there are consequences to these

actions. they embolden other people to be cruel and racist and it frays the fabric of our society and it affects how our children see things, and it affects the ways that our families get along. it affects how the world looks at america. that behavior matters. character matters. >> i will tell you what, systemic racism is not new. having people run around the streets because of what the president does is something we never saw under any past president since the 1960s. what is the relevance of this attack from obama about trump, tim? >> well, i am, you know, i

imagine that barak obama has been sitting on these thoughts and these emotions for quite some time. think back to the grace that obama displayed during the transition after trump was elected. and on inauguration day. he didn't go remotely close to where he went today. in the span of time since you had donald trump in the oval office embracing financial conflicts of interest, under mining a number of u.s. institutions, smearing our reputation abroad and flagrant ry -- it is time for barak obama to speak what is on his mind. that donald trump lacks the character, integrity and the composure to sit in the oval office.

you can say anything that you want about differences of barak obama, partisan differences with barak obama. he is an immensely sophisticated and dignified man. i think it is important to highlight and contrast right now for american voters. >> i think he gave us a window into what biden will bring tomorrow night as his main missile against the president and it will be the pandemic. the big opposition for trump is not biden but the pandemic. >> i get the president wants full credit for the economy he inherited and zero blame for the pandemic he ignored. you know what the job does not work that way. tweeting at the television does not fix things. making stuff up does not make peoples' lives better. you have to have a plan.

you have to put in the work and along with the experience to get things done, joe biden has concrete plans and policies that will turn our plan into a reality. we literally left the white house a pandemic playbook that would have shown them how to respond before the virus reached our shores. they probably used it to, i don't know, prop up a wobbly table somewhere. we don't know where the playbook went. >> trump is coming long and strong on joe biden. i don't know how biden will deal with the irony trump wants to talk about sons and how money is made and what is abusive. i don't know biden is better served by going head-to-head about family and fiduciary

responsibility. >> the president has been reluctant to do eye for an eye. you are talking about my kids, let's talk about your kids working in the white house and we can go on from there. having said that i think president obama gave us a window into one line of attack or a retort. the story about allegations that president obama has money in a chinese bank account and pays taxes in china. the fact that obama brought it up is certainly a signal that his former number two is going to do that as well and going to try to pivot as much as possible every time trump brings up his son's name. unclear if he can do that. he was supposed to try to ignore

the attacks on his son at the first debate and couldn't do it. right before coming on, we all probably got in the e-mail an advisory from the biden campaign. president obama will do another event on saturday. in florida. he is hopscotching to the key puzzle pieces that the biden campaign had on their map where they need to win. trump needs to win florida. he probably needs to win pennsylvania if he is going to defeat donald trump. >> i think pennsylvania is the state to watch. i'm out of time. thank you very much, dana, tim, appreciate you think here on short notice. i will see you both really soon. another important story tonight, coronavirus. the cdc just gave out new information. refining the risk of what kind of contact matters, okay. especially with somebody that is

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>> cases are up more than the experts expected in the fall and at more places. hospitalization rates are on the rise, and that is a lagging indicator. new information regarding how covid-19 is being transmitted. the cdc's guidelines redefine close contact with an infected person. what does that mean, close contact with an infected person. now it includes multiple brief

exposures that add up to 15 minutes instead of continuous contact for a long time. let's bring in sanjay gupta. first of all, don't touch things. we moved past it. not so much a touch things. then you have to be around a person for a long time. we had a scenario of i would rather give someone a hug and walk on than talk to someone in a close setting for several minutes and now a period of about 15 minutes is relevant but you can get to it and not just in one contact, is that right? >> yeah. i mean that is basically it, chris. in some ways it always has been arbitrary as you are alluding to. you have 15-minute contact. what if the person sneezes after a minute. does that change anything. what if you are five or six things away.

the guidance now is reflecting that. i will just show people what was close contact, within six feet for at least 15 minutes. now total of 15 or more over a 24-hour period. it better reflects what we have been told, which is you should wear a mask. this is about masks. the whole guidance is about masks saying wear a mask even if you think you will be around somebody for just a few minutes, wear a mask. >> we know masks are politicized. we know that people are very happy about that especially on the right. it is about fatigue as much as it is about masks, right. people have had it. the president is right about that. we are coming up on the holidays. people are not going to want to be wearing masks. say look, i know all of these people. i am going to be okay.

we will keep it smart while we are together. and more and more, the clusters are not community spread of massive populations, they are microclusters of exactly what we all do in the holidays. how big is this change of guidance now? >> i think it is a pretty big deal, chris. i have been going through this with my own families trying to figure out holidays. if it is your own family you have been with the whole time. that is not a concern. you have been with folks living in the same household for months now. if you start to bring in other people, parents, perhaps vulnerable. my parents are in their late 70s. i think that will be a concern. i think it will be very hard to maintain distance. it will be hard to be outside because it is cold. i think, you know if you are doing dinner. you can't obviously mask. it is a challenging proposition. people asked me what is the best

way to do it. i want to meet with my family over the holidays. how can i possibly do it. i tell them i am not having gone through the iterations myself. if you wanted to do it you would want to be tested and then go into a quarantine for 14 days, possibly get tested again after that at the point where you visit, you want to be wearing masks as much as possible or be outside, open windows to increase ventilation and try to keep distance. does not sound like a fun holiday is my point and there are a lot of hurdles to jump through. the year is going to be tough. i think this year is a wash. next year, i hope i can spend it with my family and you can spend it with yours. i think it will be tough and it won't feel like a good holiday going through all of the hoops. >> they changed it for a reason. they are changing it before the holidays. take it into consideration. not just one piece of contact, a little contact can add up. it is one more reason for to us

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up an average of 11 percentage points in cnn's latest poll of polls, the major polls, taking the average of all of them. now, some will question that seeing how the popular vote does not win the election. i'm with you. i say we may appreciate the state of play in the presidential election better by looking down ballot. looking at the ballots in different states on a congressional level. what is going on in different areas and why. can democrats keep and grow their majority in the house. what are the chances of flipping the senate. the more seats flipped, the more we get a suggestion of the electorate. good to see you brother. let's start with the senate. the democrats need a net gain of three unless trump is reelected and they need four. what do you see? >> sure. so essentially look, these are the polling averages. you said the democrats need a

net of three. republican pickups, we will give the republicans alabama. they will need four on the left side of the screen. they are leading in five republican held seats right now, arizona, colorado, iowa, maine and north carolina. iowa and north carolina are close, two and three-point races. the question is why are democrats in this position to pick up the majority. you see it well when you look at the five opportunities and look at the presidential race in the states. what you see in those states is look here. look. in all of the states where the democrats are leading, the opportunities, joe biden is also leading. the differences across the seats tend to be rather small. to me it is a clear sign that president trump is dragging down republican senators with him. >> all right. so, we see that echoes what we see in the main race fine. now house races. republicans, 197 house seats.

they need 218 to win control. how are the republicans looking at moving the house? >> yeah. it ain't going to happen. the senate race within the margin of error, and you can argue the presidential race is within some version of the margin of error. the house side, i am not seeing it. house the democrats had 235. look at the forecast for this year. democrats are in fact favored to win 240 seats. if anything come november 3rd i expect democrats increase their majority in the house of representatives. >> you slipped one past me there when you said that on the senate side it could be that trump is pulling them down because you see an echo effect between his numbers and the states and theirs. flush that out better for us with this trump connection slide number four. >> yeah. look here this is the house of representatives. and i think that these are three districts that trump won in 2016. they flipped from a gop to

democratic in 2018, in 02 the incumbent flipped. look at the poll. the 2020 house poll on the left side. then you can see the 2020 pres polling. you see the democratic candidate in all of the races are leading and joe biden is leading in the same polls. here is the key nugget here. these, remember, districts trump won in 2016. what we see here again is that biden is flipping the districts in the polls and in doing so it seems the democratic house members are holding on to their leads. >> do you see any disconnect or place that republicans are doing well but trump isn't or vice versa, biden not doing well but the democrats doing well? >> yeah. i think it is really important to point out what we have seen historically in the last few election cycles is that there is an increasing correlation between the results at the top of the ballot and the results further down on the ballot, both in the house and the senate

levels. i will say there are a few republicans that might have household names, specifically in pennsylvania. fitzpatrick seems to be holding on. that is a district that hillary clinton did well in 2016 and joe biden probably will win by double digits. but those examples are few and far between. if anything there are more democrats holding on to their seats despite trump being popular in those districts than republicans holding on as joe biden is leading in those districts. >> let me pull you away from the numbers for a second. former president barak obama was atypically aggressive today with what he was saying about president trump. i never heard him talk about this president or i never heard any former president talk about a current president the way that he did today. impact. >> barak obama is a very popular figure still and particularly popular figure among african-americans. obviously joe biden wants african-american support as

close to the levels as barak obama had in 2012 and wants the turn out in philadelphia, milwaukee and detroit. if joe biden wins those states it will be awfully difficult for president trump to win re-election. will there be an impact, i don't know. it certainly does not hurt with someone as popular as barak obama campaigning for you. >> what does the past show us about the former president's ability to sway african-american black men as voters? >> yeah. i tend to think endorsements don't matter much. you can see african-american men are not as strong with the joe biden brand as they were with the barak obama brand. if there is one weakness in joe biden's armor it is young african-american men that seem to be going more to donald trump's corner than four years ago. at this point it won't make a major difference, but if the

election gets closer those small differences could make a major impact. >> how big of a deal is the hunter biden stuff? >> i don't think it is a big impact. voters care more about the food on their table than the problems hunter biden has. >> how about debates? >> you saw that joe biden's lead went up by a few points. the final debate, donald trump needs a strong performance. no doubt about that. if there is not a game changer donald trump is looking at a big deficit heading into the final couple of weeks. you can see an 11-point lead. if anything close to that on election day, even with polling the same size at 2016 it won't be enough for trump to win. he needs to close the deficit and then we will have a conversation that president trump has a shot at winning. >> tomorrow night has a change to how it works. that is a dream of yours, a mute button so that when you speak i am not able to. we will see how it plays out on

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he attacked his character. he called out the fact that he failed at the pandemic, and is looking to distract from that failure. and he also pressed the urgency of this moment. listen to this. >> what we do, these next 13 days, will matter for decades to come. now, last time i was in philadelphia, i was at the constitution center. and i was delivering a speech for the democratic national convention, this year. and i said, during that speech, i've sat in the oval office with both of the men who are running for president. and they are very different people. i explained that i never thought donald trump would embrace my vision or continue my policies.

but i did hope, for the sake of the country, that he might show some interest in taking the job seriously. but it hasn't happened. he hasn't shown any interest in doing the work or helping anybody but himself and his friends, or treating the presidency like a reality show that he can use to get attention. and, by the way, even then, his tv ratings are down. so you know that upsets him. but the thing is, this is not a reality show, this is reality. and the rest of us have had to live with the consequences of him proving himself incapable of taking the job seriously. >> so, he went at the man but he, also, went at this moment. listen to this. >> our democracy's not going to

work if the people, who are supposed to be our leaders, lie, every day, and just make things up. i mean -- and we've just become numb to it. we've just become immune to it. every single day. fact checkers can't keep up. and -- and -- and, look, this -- this notion of truthfulness and democracy and -- and citizenship and being responsible. these aren't republican or democratic principles. they're american principles. they're what we're -- they're what we -- most of us grew up learning from our parents and our grandparents. they're not white or black or latino or asian values. they're american values. human values.

and we need to reclaim them. we have to get those values back, at the center of our public life. and we can. but -- but, to do it, we've got to turn out, like never before. >> he talked so long, it got dark. no, seriously. he really went through a mission statement and a referendum on this presidency. the likes, i have never heard from a former president. now, what impact will it have? how does it help biden? how does it help turnout? does it hurt trump? compelling questions. let's bring in a compelling figure. d lemon. he is a bout to take over, anyway. >> preach, brother. i felt like i was in church with the ladies shouting on sunday. i'm not kidding. i had a friend who texted me, who said obama was an assassin. did you watch that speech? i just i think people were

sitting at home going, it is about time. that's what i think. >> which people, though? because you don't expect trump supporters to say i forgot how much i love that obama. >> no. >> most of the people who voted for trump, probably, did so in reaction to obama. >> on a wound, right? because you don't hear that from a former president. this is unprecedented. you know, there is that sort of bro code between presidents where you don't really talk about it. and this president did. what he said, every single word he said, was the truth. so i don't think anyone is persuadable, at this point. there are very few people who are persuadable. and if you are undecided right now, i got to -- listen. i don't know. it's not even the twilight zone. i don't know where you're living. i think most people are decided. but what it will serve to do, democrats usually wet the bed, make them feel better about the election, right? it may galvanize, actually, some

trump supporters. but i think, in -- in -- in philadelphia, in pennsylvania, where it's a swing state and some independent-minded voters, it may help some of those independent-minded voters. and it may help the turnout, which is what democrats really need. >> black voters? >> oh, yeah, of course. >> black, male voters? >> i think so. listen, we talet's see how many people show up at the polls because i don't know any black men who are going to vote for donald trump except for people who have a ton of money in the bank. and they think -- here's what they think. unlike black women, who are the most educated, right, of the voting block, who know what it's like to be in a boardroom or business meeting and have -- and be man-splained when you're smarter than the men in the room. i think these black men think if

i just get the capital, therefore, i will be treated equally. they're in for a rude awakening because it doesn't work that way. that's not exactly how it works and women know that. especially, black women, they know that. so i think, these men, honestly, they're being bamboozled. they're being played by the trump folks. but, yeah, i actually do think it's going to sway some -- motivate, not sway them, but motivate some black men to get to the polls. listen. president obama is very popular among all demographics, right? except for, you know, the folks who hate him because they're strong trump supporters. but the women, who we call the church-hat ladies, my mom, my aunts, my sisters, my young nieces, yeah. if it's not for barack obama, it's certainly michelle obama. trust. >> and do you think that the poll for biden, with those who love ob