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post debate analysis. stay with cnn for that. brianna keilar picks up coverage right now. have a good afternoon. hi there. brianna keilar. i want to welcome viewers in the united states and around the world. the final debate is just hours away. president trump and former vice president joe biden will square off and make closing argument to america. and the matchup comes amid a national health crisis that killed more than 220,000 americans and put millions out of work. in an effort to bring coherance and substance to the debate stage, the commission put new rules in place, including a mute button for opening remarks to crackdown on interruptions. tonight's topics include the pandemic, american families, race in america, climate change, national security, and
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leadership. jessica dean is in nashville ahead of the debate. the debate commission wants it to be fruitful. i wonder if there's indication that's what we're going to get? >> reporter: we're going to see about that, brianna. you mentioned that rule about the mute button, what they're doing with microphones. they're getting two minutes of uninterrupted speaking time, each candidate. the other opposing candidate's microphone will be muted after that. after that, it is open discussion. it remains to be seen exactly how much that will play into it. 90 minutes debate. no stopping. went over socme topics. they installed plexiglas there for both of the candidates as well. as far as the candidates themselves and preparations, we know that president trump's advisers have counselled him, said this is your last chance to change trajectory of the race, especially when it comes to your
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behavior, two dedemographics perceive it, seniors and women. they advised him to cool it down, not come in as hot this time. he indicated he will do so. also that he feels like he is going to push back strongly if he feels likesque treat he is b treated unfairly. on vice president biden's side, he has been preparing several days. his team is prepared for personal attacks, both against joe biden himself but also his family. and their objective, brianna, is similar to what it was last time. they want him talking directly to the american people, talking about issues. coronavirus pandemic, what he would do to get that under control, and also the economy. they believe when he is talking about those issues that he is winning. expect him to try to bring it back to that again and again. >> yeah. we'll be watching with you, jessica. thank you so much for the report from nashville. this is one of the president's
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favorite claims, albeit false claims. >> ultimately, i tell you, it was happening. we created the greatest economy in the history of our country, and the other side -- >> you know that's not true. >> that's totally true. >> no. >> she's correct, it is not true. in fact, 700 leading economists strongly oppose president trump's re-election, calling his time in office a sustained assault on democracy. for a look at how the economy fared, go to christine romans. >> brianna, it was not the best economy in history. even before the coronavirus wiped out millions of jobs, jobs growth in trump's first 36 months trailed job creation in obama's last three years and gross domestic product, gdp, widest measure of the economy never reached the rocket ship growth president trump promised his regulation and tax cuts
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would spark. on an annual basis, gdp growth never topped his promise of 4% growth. when you look quarter by quarter, the trump economy looks a lot like obama years. where it was the best in history, the stock market, hitting highs even in the middle of a pandemic. trump repeatedly takes the credit, though federal reserve and congress deserve some of that credit, and wall street does not always reflect main street. half of american households own no stocks at all. the benefits of record highs in the stock market go disproportionately to the richest americans. top ten percent by wealth own 87% of stock market holdings. >> thank you for that. after abruptly ending the interview with lesley stahl from "60 minutes," the president made good on the promise to make the white house recording of the interview public. he tweeted he felt she was biased. cbs released this statement. the white house's unprecedented
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decision to disregard the agreement with cbs news and release their footage will not deter "60 minutes" from providing full, fair, context actual reporting which presidents have participated in for decades. my next guest interviewed donald trump during her career as an award winning journalist, included time here at cnn and cbs news, connie chung. >> i am a big fan of yours, i watch you all the time. being an alum, i feel as if i used to work with you, although i didn't directly. >> well, i mean, i am a huge admi admirer of yours, as so many are that enjoy news. connie, we'll see the airing of the interview sunday. acknowledging it is the president and not "60 minutes" breaking with precedent. could "60 minutes" have handled this differently or do you think they were best, following usual
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practices? >> clearly this was not leslie's decision. as a correspondent, we all will weigh in but it is the management's decision of what to do. we used to call them the suits, you know, and whatever the suits decide is what's going to happen. i heard yesterday when you were interviewing bill carter of "new york times," he used to be the media person, he said he did not understand why cbs didn't release it because it is news and that it could clearly effect the debate that's coming up. in other words, what was it that caused the president to walk out on the interview. i think i would have released it because both the white house and cbs seem to be playing a game of chicken. we have nothing to hide. you know we as reporters and the
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media have nothing to hide. why not just put it out. but it is a management decision, so cbs probably had to think about it long and hard and decided to do it the way they always have. >> i want to ask you about tonight's debate. we are going to see changes, opposite mics muted during the two minute answer. rebutta rebuttals miked. >> the presidency has been unpredictable as you well know. i cannot imagine there isn't going to be some disruption because that's who president trump is. he likes to filibuster, he likes to dominate a conversation and once each person has his two
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minutes, i'm sure you'll hear the other person off mike a bit. if i am president trump and joe biden starts to interrupt me, my mike might be able to pick up his utterings. i don't know. it will be something i'm not -- i'm sure you and everybody else will be watching. >> it is not like it is not distracting, even if the audience can't fully hear the remarks. if you're there in the room, you hear what someone else is saying. it is something that will interfere if it happens. i mentioned, connie, you interviewed trump before when he was a private citizen. you pressed him and he did not like it. i would like to listen to part of this. >> there's no reason to -- >> do you know why you do it? >> you love the publicity. >> i hate the publicity. >> get out of here. >> i hate the publicity.
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>> oh, please. >> i sell great condominiums in new york. the best in new york. >> maybe you can try to answer the question without giving me the normal shpeel. >> what is the normal shpeel? >> when the fact is that many rich and powerful people do try to remain anonymous, you became very public very clearly by your own design. >> i don't know if it was by my own design. i do developments which get a lot of publicity. >> come on. >> i mean this. if trump to your weren't a great building -- >> one building in new york city with zillions of buildings. >> connie chung is a disaster. please, please, do an interview with me, it will be so much fun. i watched her interview marlon brando, she was like a child. this woman has less talent than
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anybody i know. >> he hated your interview. you really called him and at times you can see where he doesn't quite know how to respond to you. did you see any parallels in his response to this interview with lesley stahl or with previous debate moderators? >> identical, especially if the person who is doing the questioning is a woman, there's something about it that, i don't know. well, he doesn't respect women i think. my husband and i used to see him at golf tournaments, so-called celebrity golf tournaments. he absolutely refused to acknowledge that i was physically there. i would be standing, my husband, he would say hello to my husband and i would be standing there, and it was as if i were invisible. it was remarkable.
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he uses the same words about women today. he calls them disasters. of course, he does that with dr. fauci, too, doesn't he, and many, many other people. but was it dr. fauci he called a disaster? >> yes, it was. yes, he did. you're exactly right. >> you know, he needs to improve his vocabulary, sorry to say, because it is rather limited. >> connie, you have endorsed a political candidate for the first time which is breaking with tradition for someone with your resume. >> yeah. >> why did you decide to do that? >> brianna, i always stayed in my lane, never jumped the fence into the political fray but when i found out that asians, asian
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voters can tip the balance in key battleground states and asians are the minority least likely to vote, i thought my gosh, i have to do something. there are two groups that i relate to, women and asians. i thought i would make some videos, speak to women and to agencies, try to get them to not only vote but come out and i'm not sure why, i don't know why they don't vote or i don't know why they're hesitant to. i wanted to interview a bunch of asians, find out why. i can only assume that it is sometimes asians because we're dead ringers for being foreigners, the people just look at us, think we're foreigners.
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so maybe that's part of it, that they feel we, asians, feel we're not really full fledged citizens, even if we are. so i jumped over the fence, brianna. it was a big deal for me but i felt it was necessary because of all of the issues that are plaguing us, not the least of which was the president calling it the coronavirus, the china virus, and sort of causing violent and not only physical but verbal abuse against asians. >> we've been reporting on it. it has been significant. connie, thank you so much. it is wonderful to have you on. we really appreciate it. >> brianna, i am thrilled to be with you because i really am a big fan. i put these videos, if i may, on
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youtube. now this which is a website. if anybody wants to take a look what i have to say, if i have any measure of credibility left, i was expressing my feelings for the first time. >> connie, thank you. >> thank you, brianna. next, the coronavirus numbers are getting worse. they're hitting levels the u.s. saw in the last peak. plus, a damning new report that the president's pandemic response resulted in up to 200,000 avoidable deaths. i am going to speak live with a professor behind the analysis. and chris christie apologizing for not wearing a mask at the white house event there, but left one huge thing out of his mea culpa.
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in one day, the u.s. recorded more than a thousand coronavirus deaths. we hit that milestone yesterday. highest daily toll recorded in a month. recent trends are similar to previous surges. experts say the worst is yet to come. only one state is moving the right direction today, hawaii. the average of new cases per day climbed under 60,000. it is a level we haven't seen since first week of august. there were more than 40,000 hospitalizations reported wednesday. several states hit record highs, includingize, kentucky, oklahoma, south dakota, utah.
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since it began, coronavirus has taken lives of more than 220,000 people in the u.s. of that number, it is estimated between 130,000 and 210,000 may have been avoidable if there was adequate response to the crisis. this data coming from a report put together by a team of disaster preparedness experts. jeffrey sacks, one of the authors of the study, joins us now. the question, dr. sacks, what could have been done to bring numbers down to what this data analysis shows would have been between 20 and only 90,000 victims? >> thank you. it is grim to see this surge going on and we have no national policy at all. completely given up on any policy whatsoever and so the deaths are soaring. but it is basically like this since the start. what other countries did was the
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basics. people wore face masks because the government helped them to do so and advised them to do so. there was contact tracing. there was help for people to stay isolated or quarantine in public facilities. there were adequate tests with quick turnaround time. there was safe workplace practices put in place very clearly without huge controversies early on, so the united states has ended up with just about the highest death rate in the world. and for a large country, at the top. other countries just brought it basically under control, so there are almost no cases in many countries of east asia while in our country it continues to soar out of control. it was the basics. donald trump can't do the basics. he doesn't care, he doesn't
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understand, he doesn't regret 220,000 plus lives lost, and so we have been without any policy. it is amazing to watch actually. almost unimaginable, given the talent in our country to bring it to quick conclusion. >> shows you why leadership matters, you can bring that all together to make a difference. we see it in the numbers. something the study did which is fascinating, examine the wide circle of tragedy that comes with every covid-19 death. what did you find? >> there are 227,000 deaths by current count, but 8.6 million people who have been infected and we have to remember, it's also extremely sad, many of those that have been infected and survived have long term disabilities as a result of this. we're learning a lot of terrible
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things about the virus, brain infections, organ infections. also, of course, for every person who dies, there are children left behind, there are spouses, the loss is calamitous. it is many times more than what's already a shocking number and especially shocking 220,000 deaths that were avoidable had we just followed the basics. but we have a president that just doesn't believe in anything. it is a kind of nilism, it is a dark cynicism that they did nothing. until today, says it is nothing as if these deaths don't matter and as if the 8.7 million infections don't matter. as if the burden on our society is nothing. >> we watched the failure. we thank you for joining us and
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showing us how you quantified what it would mean. thank you so much, doctor. >> good to be with you. historic rebuke. president obama with a blistering speech against his successor. plus, a development in the standoff over stimulus relief between the white house and nancy pelosi. and southwest will start selling every seat on flights as airlines are reporting huge losses. staying on top of your game
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and end police brutality, we must keep working to reform our racist criminal justice system that's shameful to us all. former president barack obama returned to the campaign trail with a blistering speech, what some would call a historic take down of president trump days before a consequential election, on the eve of tonight's final presidential debate. in 40 minutes, obama went in on trump's taxes and alleged chinese bank account, mishandling of the economy, and then the zingers that got personal. >> i did hope for sake of the country that he might show some interest in taking the job seriously. he hasn't shown any interest in doing the work or helping
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anybody but himself and his friends or treating the presidency like a reality show that he can use to get attention. and by the way, even then his tv ratings are down. so you know that upsets him. can you imagine if i had a secret chinese bank account when i was running for re-election? you think box news might have been a little concerned about that? they would have called me beijing barry. i get that the president wants full credit for the economy he inherited, and zero blame for the pandemic he ignored. but you know what, the job doesn't work that way. tweeting at the television doesn't fix things. this idea that somehow this white house has done anything but completely screw this up is just not true. now, he did inherit the longest
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streak of job growth in american history, but just like everything else he inherited, he messed it up. it has been coming in two weeks for the last ten years. where is it? where is this great plan to replace obamacare? they've had ten years to do it. there is no plan. just like when russia puts bounties on the heads of soldiers in afghanistan, the commander in chief can't be missing in action and with joe and kamala at the helm, you're not going to have to think about the crazy things they said every day. you'll be able to go about your lives knowing that the president is not going to retweet conspiracy theories about secret cabals running the world, or that naif ee s.e.a.l.s didn't kill bin laden. >> presidential historian, former direction of nixon presidential library, the
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question, tim, is will this have an impact 12 days out from the election? >> well, with a combination of humor and plain speaking, president obama actually engaged in a bit of a role reversal with vice president biden. normally it is the number two on the ticket that launches the indictment on the opposing neimnim nominee, and president obama was playing the role of the scrappy vice presidential candidate while the presidential candidate projects december projec projects decency and unity. its effectiveness? like most everything in this moment of the pandemic election of 2020, it depends. today i believe we will cross the threshold of a larger number of people voting early than was the case in 2016. in 2016, by this time with 12
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days to go, 21 million people had voted. as of the last time i checked, 46.6 million have voted. in total, 47 million americans voted early last time. we're about to cross that threshold. that means baked in already are 46 million votes. i believe the president, former president's case yesterday was to democratic voters to increase turnout. i don't think he was trying to persuade many people that were on the fence. i think he was persuading people to vote, take the time to vote. it matters. don't be apathetic. every vote counts. i believe that was his message. and to some extent i believe that will effect the turnout. will it effect enough? i don't know. but it certainly will effect turnout. >> do you think, i mean, look, the folks that biden needs to win over are people in the industrial belt states that
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trump was able to flip from obama to when trump ran against hillary clinton. is there any damage that is done by president obama with those supporters? is there any vulnerability there? >> no, because those were obama supporters. many of those people voted for obama, then switched to trump. and he did press the idea of working families. and many of those working families in the chicago media area. there were people in iowa that remembered obama as a scrappy, tough, energetic senator. i don't think it hurts with those voters. they're most attracted by the decency campaign of vice president biden and those are also voters effected by the day to day reality of covid, not simply the disease but its effect on our economy. >> all right. tim, great to see you. tim and a hanaftali, thank you. chris christie who is recovering from coronavirus says
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he is sorry for not wearing a mask at the white house, but is missing something in this apology. we will roll the tape. defense say iran and russia are interfering in the election and obtained personal information of american voters. i honestly feel that that's my calling-- to give back to younger people. i think most adults will start realizing that they don't recall things as quickly as they used to or they don't remember things as vividly as they once did. i've been taking prevagen for about three years now. people say to me periodically, "man, you've got a memory like an elephant." it's really, really helped me tremendously. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. such as high blood pressure,ve pdiabetes, and asthma.s this administration and senate republicans want to overturn laws requiring insurance companies to cover people with pre-existing conditions. they're rushing a lifetime appointment to the supreme court to change the law through the courts.
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chris christie is now apologizing for not wearing a mask at the white house, for both his debate prep with the president and the now infamous super spreader event honoring supreme court nominee amy coney barrett that took place in the rose garden and also inside the white house. he has a new op-ed in "the wall street journal" and it echos part of what he said last week. >> we need to be telling people that there is no down side to you wearing a mask. leaders all across the politics, sports, the media should be saying to people put your masks on and be safe until we get a vaccine. i let my guard down and it was wrong. >> he says he felt fine for three days after the white house event before coming down with symptoms, and then spending a week in the hospital battling the virus. the crux is that masks shouldn't be didvisive.
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it is commendable to admit a mistake. this is as low on courage as a mea culpa can be, raising the question if it is more about preserving chris christie after flagrant disregard for public health guidelines reveal him for what he is. he derides division over masks, but not once does he name the source of that division, the man he advises. let's go through key lines. quote. i mistook the bubble of security around the president for a viral safe zone. i was wrong. there is no safe zone from this virus. well, the safe zone was never sure proof around the president. testing in the absence of masks and social distancing was only ever a recipe for detecting spread, not for preventing it. the only players that presented it as a way to prevent it were the president and white house enablers. >> we test once a week. now we're going to go testing once a day. >> testing on a daily basis with
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all of the senior staff, we were testing on a daily basis. >> the president is the most tested man in america. tested more than anyone, multiple times a day. we believe that he is acting appropriately. >> he also writes when you get this disease, it hits you how easy it is to prevent, or maybe it hits you how ridiculous you look that you didn't take it seriously in the face of overwhelming data and countless stories about the americans it has killed. you don't need to get this disease to understand easy ways you can try to prevent it or the impact it can have on your life if you do get it. he goes on, quote, one of the worst aspects of america's divided politics is polarization of something as practical as a mask. it is not a partisan or cultural symbol, it is simply a good method, not a perfect one but proven one to contain a cough or prevent it from getting in your mouth or nose. wear it or you may regret it as i did.
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100% accurate. again, no mention of debate prep apprentice who fueled the division by saying things like this. >> did you ever see a man that likes a mask as much as him? if i were a psychiatrist, right? no, i'd say this guy has some big issues. >> and i don't agree with the statement that if everybody wore a mask, everything disappears. come out with things today, in the cdc, that 85% of people wearing the mask catch it. >> that is obviously false. trump was attacking masks back in may. this is what christie was saying then. >> we sent our young men during world war ii over to europe, out to the pacific knowing, knowing that many of them would not come home alive, and we decided to make that sacrifice because what we were standing up for was the american way of life. >> months later, this op-ed advocating for masks feels very
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tepid, coming from a politician known for being anything but. chris christie, hard hitting new jersey brand of politics, might as well be described as fu, buddy. he famously told a protesters at a hurricane sandy recovery event this. >> you all know me. if we're getting into a debate today, it will get very interesting and fun. you want to have the conversation later, happy to have it, buddy. until that time, sit down and shut up. >> this isn't someone known for being delicate with other people's feelings. yet in the op-ed about masks, he says, quote, the message will be broadly heeded only if it is consistently and honestly delivered by the media, religious leaders, sports figures, and public servants, those in positions of authority have a duty to get the message out. one thing the president without naming him in with all of the other people so he doesn't get mad maybe, the problem is all of the other people have been getting the message out for
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eight months. the media, sports figures, public servants at large, and when it comes to some religious leaders, ones that did not encourage masks or social distancing and turned their churches into super spreaders, they were taking queues from the president. on average, these figures did their duty to get the message out loud and clear. you just chose to ignore it. >> wear a mask. keep some distance and be outside as much as possible. >> wash your hands regularly and thoroughly with warm water and soap. or clean them with the alcohol base hand rub. >> avoid touching your eyes, nose, mouth. >> wear a mask when you are out in public. >> please leave your mask on, pulling it down exposes you to the virus. >> wear your mask. it is a fact and it is the right thing to do. >> we have clear scientific evidence they work and they are
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our best defense. >> wear a mask. avoid crowds. wash your hands frequently. >> he goes on in the op-ed, quote, if leaders level with the american people, we can trust in the outcome. when americans are given proper and consistent information, they'll overwhelmingly make good health choices, including wearing of masks. but that doesn't work if partisan media and public officials send mixed messages. you mean like this? >> and then i see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute, and is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning, you see it gets in the lungs and does a tremendous number. many doctors think it is extremely successful, the hydroxychloroquine. it's safe. it doesn't cause problems. i had no problem. based on a lot of reading and a lot of knowledge about it, i
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think it could have a very positive impact. >> that's not proper, not consistent, not good health choices as christie says. he goes on to say taking precautions doesn't settle the issue how to reopen the economy. quote, those that deny the stsk realities undermine the conditions that allow for rapid and complete reopening. oh, like this guy. >> it is going to disappear, one day, like the miracle, it will disappear. it will go away. you know it is going away, it will go away, and we're going to have a great victory. if you look, the numbers are minuscule compared to what it was. it is dying out. having a vaccine is good, we are rounding the turn regardless. i want to say the end of the pandemic is in sight. >> no, it's not. on the reopening, the president and allies like to frame it as a lo lockdown or nothing debate. it is not. that's a false choice.
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always was. why? there's proof and evidence from countries around the world that returned to some semblance of normal that you can reopen an economy safely if everyone is on the same page and there's national strategy to test, trace, prevent the virus. christie says we can use this to bring the country together. never too late to start. it will take leadership that challenges and trusts the american people, end quote. it is too late. for 222,000 americans and their families, he fails to mention that. he also says, quote, it is never comfortable to deliver real criticism that includes yourself, but it was a serious failure for me as a public figure to go maskless at the white house. i paid for it, i hope americans can learn from my experience. i am lucky to be alive. it could easily have been otherwise. and it was otherwise for so many people. and it will be for so many more until politicians that have the
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president's ear, like chris christie, actually say what the hell they mean. this is no time for lukewarm leadership. many americans won't be as lucky as governor christie who checked himself in the hospital. nancy pelosi is close to a deal on a stimulus bill. is there any chance of it happening before the election? .. .. joint pain, swelling, tenderness. my psoriasis.
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another coronavirus relief bill. pelosi has indicated to steve mnuchin that it is her goal to hold a vote on a stimulus bill ahead of the election. cnn's senior congressional manni raji is with us on capitol hill. >> reporter: to get a deal passed before november 3 is incredibly unlikely. a lot of it has to do with the speaker and treasury secretary still have to resolve so many major issues, including funding for state and local governments and liability issues. i'm told from democratic sources they really need a deal in hand by tomorrow if they want to pass it through the house by next week. then you have the whole issue about the senate. the senators want a $500 million bill instead. so even if it gets a vote in the
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house next week, which is possibly, getting it to the senate before election day seems incredibly doubtful, but the two sides are still talking, so it remains to be seen when americans are getting the relief they're waiting for. >> manu, thank you so much for that. we are hours away from the final face-off between president trump and joe biden. there will be new rules, more plexiglas, but will it contain the chaos? we're live from the debate site. bill assumed it was a costume party. bill assumed his mayo was the best choice. assume nothing. just like the leading brand, kraft real mayo is made with high quality ingredients at a price you can feel good about. no wonder kraft is so good. we knew that this was really, really bad. we had ample forewarning. but we did almost no testing, almost no contact tracing. completely ignored the science, completely ignored the warning signs. there were things that could have been done. a lot of people have died needlessly,
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it is the top of the hour. i am brianna keilar. in just hours, president trump and democratic nominee, former vice president joe biden will share a stage one last time in the closing days before the election. the president needs to convince americans he deserves another four years. biden needs to maintain the campaign's momentum in the final days. the election commission is desperately trying to turn the page from the first matchup with new rules in place. arlette, we are wondering what we can expect from each candidate when th
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