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like me get to work and keep our communities healthy. relieve traffic. reduce pollution. rescue caltrain. [all] yes on measure rr. hello, everyone i'm john king in washington. thank you for sharing this important day with us. the debates are done. today opens the final sprint to america's choice. the president is in florida, vice president hits battleground ohio and pennsylvania. joe biden plans a speech at home in delaware. senator kamala harris headed to georgia. the weekend is busy with campaign events too. just 11 days left now. a state by state chess match now that the final debate is in the books. the polls after last night's show down gave the edge to joe biden. the instant analysis was the president helped himself some by
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staying civil for a change and drawing policy contrast on issues like taxes and energy. but no came changer in a race where the president needed one. now america's take is sometimes different from washington's take and it'll take a few days to know for sure what you think. biden's argument was for change. arguing the president doesn't have a plan on the pandemic and health care. and he understands you and how to make government work. it is a low bar but just the president wasn't rude and allowed conversations gave republicans cheer. if you watched, you heard the president trying to recreate the 2016 map, calling out texas and pennsylvania, that as biden showed his views on fracking. both candidates stretched or abandoned the facts at times, but in the president's case it was constant. the coronavirus pandemic is the
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defining november issue and was the night's first topic. the alternative facts from the president were many. he said vaccines are weeks from being ready, children are immune, it's rounding the corner that's a direct quote, and it's going away. but the numbers don't lie. thursday, 71,000 plus new infections, the fourth highest single day total of the pandemic. the daily average of new cases 61,000. covid-19 has 40,000 americans in the hospital today. and the daily average of new deaths sadly is ticking up again as well. let's go through some of these as we look at it. this is the pandemic election. and the virus is making a late campaign statement. no other way to say it, 32 states trending in the wrong direction. you see them here in the red and orange on the map. the red 50% more infections now than a week ago in rhode island. the orange is 10 to 50% more
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infections. it's everywhere, florida, texas, arizona and california all now trending up again. the big populous states joining a lot of smaller states in the plains and pa plain and prairie. that's a dangerous sign. averaging 60,000 now. remember the president said it would disawe peer by april. then the vice president said by memorial day. around july the president said the virus will disappear. since then, more than 53%, 54% of the cases if you round up, said it would dispeer, more than 37% of the deaths since the president said it would disappear. the count continues and it's troubling. we saw how high the death trend went early on when doctors were trying to figure out how to deal with the virus, came down, up in the summer surge, came back down, and starting to trend back
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up. the positivity rate is what is so alarming. it means more infections today but also tomorrow because a lot of people are insfektifecting o. high double digits 55% in iowa. 21% in kansas. 35% south dakota. 31% wyoming. 33% idaho. that tells you the coronavirus is rampant in some of these places which means new infections will continue. if you look at the states with the highest rates per capita right now, these are the ten states with the highest per capita rate. if you look at it in a political context, nine of the ten voted for trump in 2016 three of them, illinois, montana and wisconsin have democratic governors. but the trump map is dealing with coronavirus in a big way. the president talked about blue states, blaming them for the coronavirus. it's true they went up the hill
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early, the west coast, new england, new york, they came down, up in the summer surge but nowhere near as much as states with the republican governors. everyone is going up now. we should treat it as an american problem not a red or blue problem. but the states with republican governors have a bigger problem than democratic governors. the president of the united states saying last night we got this, we're turning the corner things are getting better. joe biden saying that is simply untrue. >> we're about to go into a dark winter. a dark winter. and he has no clear plans. >> i don't think we're going to have a dark winter at all. >> he talks about this is -- don't worry, it's all going to be over soon. >> i say we're learning to live with it. we have no choice. >> learning to live with it? come on. we're dying with it because he's never said -- when's the last time, is it really dangerous still?
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you tell the people it's dangerous now, what should they do about the danger? and you say i take no responsibility. >> let me talk about -- >> excuse me, i take full responsibility. it's not my fault that it came here. it's china's fault. >> let's break down last night and what it might mean looking forward. joining me dan balls with "the washington post," mj lee and jeff zeleny. i want to start with you. as i noted at the top, the analysis was joe biden won the debate, the president did okay, he wasn't rude. republicans are cheerful they're not asked questions today about a rude and interrupting president. the question is does it change the dynamic of the race, you write this, if at worse the debate is a draw, that's less than the president needed politically. trump stuck to a more traditional game plan in the hope he could win back voters he needs for a second term. if the latest polls are accurate, the president has ground to make up, but the path still exists to win another
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electoral college majority, one identical to the narrow path from four years ago. you could hear the words on it of his mouth, ohio, pennsylvania, oklahoma, texas, did he do enough? >> hard to say, john, probably not. i think for a number of reasons. one the top of the program, the state of the coronavirus pandemic. i think that we all wondered back in late july and august what this would look like in the final weeks of the campaign, would it be going down, would it look like it was being contained or would it not? we have the answer at this point and it's not. that's not good news for the president because it's the one big issue that continues to be a drag on him and the way people are judging his presidency and the way he has handled his presidency. i think the other big factor is that more than 47 million people have already voted. it's quite an astonishing number. we're expecting record turn out and it may be another 100
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million who vote between now and election day. but there is a dwindling pool of people from whom trump can get votes. most of his voters or many of his voters still have not voted. he needs an enormous turnout from his supporters and people who didn't vote in 2016 from him but are like minded of his supporters. so i think those are the main obstacles that he faces. i think he did what he came to do last night at the debate and certainly the republicans and people around the president are quite happy with that. but it's a -- it's a high hurdle that he has to get over in order to change what has been a movement away from him for a long time. >> and m.j. the front runner joe biden knows that coming in. he knows he's in command so his strategy was more cautious he knew don't make a mistake. he also knew number one the coronavirus pandemic he wants to make it a test of leadership, the president has failed we need
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a new president that's the issue of joe biden's argument. and then he tried to link in health care. biden trying to make the point in the middle of a pandemic this president doesn't get an issue that is critical to most americans. listen to the health care exchange. >> no longer is obamacare, because without the individual mandate it's much different. preexisting conditions will always stay. >> he's been talking about this for a long time. he's never come up with a plan. >> i'm going to pass obamacare with a public option, because bidencare. >> what's happening on capitol hill? >> he's talking about socialized medicine. >> he thinks he's running against somebody else. he's running against joe biden. i beat all those other people because i disagreed with them. >> it was an interesting take. it was nice to have a policy debate last night, whether you're democrat or republican or in between. but biden's position was number one the president wants to take away obamacare and number two,
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i'm not bernie sanders. >> i think it's fascinating when you take the issue of health care, i think this is a great example of an area where we didn't actually see the president make a successful affirmative case for what his second term in the white house would look like, and he actually badly needed to do that last night, right. it wasn't enough for president trump to have a night with less interruptions and be a little bit more in control of his behavior. he really needed to use this sort of last opportunity to talk to the nation about why people should actually vote for him again and give him another four years. on the issue of health care this has been an issue for the president, he wasn't able to say what he would actually replace obamacare with. he's been saying for a while, i have a plan, i have a plan coming, but we've not actually seen a full wholesome details of whatever that plan is, and i think biden really seized on that. it's also the reason we're going
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to see him back here in wilmington making another speech that has to do with covid-19 and the economy. i'm kind of losing count at this point on how many speeches, how many remarks, how many campaign events have been centered around this issue. clearly he has decided this is the issue that most americans care about the most and nothing else matters as much as this issue and how the country is going to come out of this pandemic. >> jeff zeleny that gets to the challenge for the president because the cases are surging, the president's public record is on record. now he's trying to have a reboot. you write how republicans cheered about the fact it was not an insult fest and it was a policy debate. one of the arguments the president wanted to make and the republicans were grateful for this. the president said elect joe biden, he'll raise your taxes and hurt the economy. listen. >> i'm cutting taxes and he wants to raise everybody's taxes and put new regulations on
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everything. he will kill it. if he gets in, you will have a depression the likes of which you've never seen. your 401(k)s will go to hell and it'll be a sad day for the country. >> biden's counter argument is that's not true. the market has factored in a biden victory. but the president was making a republican economic argument there, instead of throwing insults which left the republicans happy. >> absolutely was. that was something music to the ears of senate candidates in particular. i was talking to an adviser a short time ago we they said they're not spending the morning answering questions about the debate last night. they're not worried about spending the day defending the president or saying are you with him on whatever outlandish thing he may have said. so the reality is the policy debate, it was a normal debate. it seemed like one of the most normal things we've seen in the campaign, was actually just
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that. but there are those policy disagreements out there. it is one thing that republicans believe that, in particular, in states like pennsylvania and in florida, they will keep some, either moderates or republicans who are frustrated with trump, from voting for joe biden by that economic argument. that is something that is going to play out over the next several days or so. there hasn't been all that much of a discussion about the biden -- a tax plan, of course, he says he'll raise taxes on households for more than $400,000, but democrats believe that is a barrier to getting some of the college educated men to vote for him because they're worried about the direction of the democratic party. that was one of the discussions happening there. but john, i agree with dan, it is hard to imagine that this is going to upset the trajectory of this race. because it has not changed the fundamental elephant in the room and that is coronavirus. this is not going to change how people are living this every day in their lives, seeing the cases
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rise, the schools close, et cetera. so that is something that president trump could not do last night. >> so, dan, you could see the different strategies, joe biden knows he's in the lead, he's talking big picture, coronavirus, leadership, i know how to make government work. and joe biden pointing to the president and saying think of who you want as a president, let's talk about character. listen. >> you know who i am. you know who he is. you know his character. you know my character. you know our reputations for honor and telling the truth. i am anxious to have this race. i am anxious to see this take place. i am -- the character of the country is on the ballot. our character is to ballot look at this closely. >> the president tried to turn the tables listen to this where he says joe biden has been around forever, what has he gotten done. >> your response? >> he was there for 47 years. he didn't do it. it was just a little while ago, right, less than four years ago,
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he didn't do anything. he had eight years he was vice president. he did nothing. you guys did nothing. joe, i ran because of you. you're all talk and no action. >> we got a lot of it done. >> you didn't get anything done. >> biden has the edge, if you look at the polling when it comes to questions of character and honesty. that's a card he wanted to play. can he play that card now, he's the incumbent? >> it's harder today. certainly joe biden has a long record in public service and there's a lot the president can pick apart on that, as he did last night and as they've done through the campaign. but the idea that because he's been in office for 47 years does not seem to have been a great impediment to a lot of voters. they seem to at this point continue to trust joe biden more, certainly on the pandemic and on health care generally, on economic issues, most of the polls now show that there's kind
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of an even split on something that was a presidential advantage. so the president, i think, will continue to make this argument about him. but i don't know how far it will go. certainly on the character question, the former vice president wants to keep that front and center because he knows that on that issue in particular he has an advantage. so to some extent what we heard last night was a repetition of arguments on both sides that have been made for quite some time. what was different was it was done in a calmer way. so i think viewers got a better sense of both the differences between the two men in terms of who they are and also but what they would like to do and the disagreements they have with one another over policy. >> and we got to hear what they wanted to say. i guess that is unusual as part of our new normal. but it was. it was a normal debate. it was refreshing. thank you all so much for joining us with your reporting and incites.
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voters last night who said they had yet to make up their minds now they say they have decided. >> i say i want to write in somebody but i may vote trump except my conscience in a lot of ways really keeps me from wanting to do that frankly. >> according to tonight, i will be voting for donald trump. >> i begrudgingly trump. >> joining our conversation france luntz. it's good to see you. i want to go through one of your tweets last night. my focus group to describe trump, poised, conservatived, con artist. words to describe biden, vague, elusive, grandfatherly. you're bringing together a group of people, but what's your take away how this debate was different from the last debate in the eyes of the voters. >> even the debate itself was
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different between the first 20, 25 minutes and the last 20, 25 minutes. the only undecided are the last trump people. many of them voted for trump four years ago and they're unwilling to say they support him now because they don't like him, to be blunt. they don't like him. they don't disagrees with his policies not hostile to what he's done on the economy. but they don't like his demeanor, what he did in the first debate. the reason why some of them shifted and made a commitment to trump is because he was, for lack of a better phrase, better behaved yesterday and particularly well behaved in the first half hour. i could see the comments from the undecided voters nationwide they were reacting to his tone and demeanor and disappointed with the vice president for not being more clear, more specific. they're not undecided based on policies. they tend to prefer donald trump's policies and prefer joe
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biden's persona, that's why they're undecided. what they would like is to get joe biden's persona with donald trump's policies. >> that we can't do. and so they have to make a choice. and several said reluctantly donald trump. the other question is it's the low bar. it's tough to hear republicans describe this low bar. peggy nunan today, he wasn't a belit rant nut. he held himself together, controlled himself. he succeeded in doing what he wanted to do. these are trump voters before that were offended by his conduct, is there enough of them to get him to victory or just close the gap? >> statistically trump would
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have to win 90% of the undecided. because he's doing much better in those swing states, in those states that are marginal than he is nationwide. say he has an 8%, at an 8% lead he will be 5.5% ahead on swing voters. 6.5% of americans are still undecided or say they could change their vote. so trump has to win 90% of that. but it does mean it's a serious, uphill battle for him and the ads won't do it, the speeches won't do it, the rallies won't do it. he needed to do it last night and i'm not convinced he did well enough to close that gap. >> one of points you made coming into the debate you thought the hunter biden thing was a side show, unnecessary because of the deep ditch the president is in, maybe in a normal year but not in the middle of a pandemic, not
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when people have lost faith in your leadership. i want to play a little bit from last night about hunter biden. >> don't give me the stuff about how you're this innocent baby, joe they're calling you a interrupt politician. >> nobody believes it except him and his good friend rudy giuliani. >> you mean the laptop is another russia, russia, russia hoax. >> that's exactly what -- >> this is where he's going. the laptop is russia, russia, russia. >> anybody win that with voters who matter? >> the problem is, they all, 100% of them, prioritize jobs and the economy over whatever happened with hunter biden. 100% of them prioritize dealing with covid over hunter biden. that the president was talking about issues that these critical voters don't care about and john what he could have done is he could have asked the question, how much is it going to cost every time joe biden threw out a
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plan like health care, who's going to pay for it. he could have related to issues that these taxpayers care about. instead he talked about corruption because that's what he's interrupted in. donald trump's biggest enemy, biggest opponent is not joe biden, it's himself, quite a while honestly. >> frank luntz thank you. up next the coronavirus case count hits a high the country has not seen, sadly, since summer. he used to have gum problems. now, he uses therabreath healthy gums oral rinse with clinically-proven ingredients and his gum problems have vanished. (crowd applauding) therabreath, it's a better mouthwash. at walmart, target and other fine stores.
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if you watched the debate last night you heard joe biden say there was a dark winter ahead when it comes to the coronavirus. the president said he does not see it that way. he does not see a dark winter. you can choose your own term but if we look at the map and the numbers things are bleak. if you look right now, 32 states heading in the wrong direction. that means more new infections right now compared to a week ago. those are the states in orange and rhode island in the dark red, that's more than 50% new infections this week than a week before. 32 states trending in the wrong direction. only one state trending down.
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you see oregon the map there. this is what's troubling as you look at the case count, number one getting high again yesterday, getting close to the record, 71,000 cases. here's the other troubling sign, this is the peak of the summer surge. if you look at where the line is going take this this way, the 60,000 plus average right now headed up from where we were at the peak of the summer surge and that line is pointing up. that troubles health experts. hospitalizations also trending up. the imhe model, 223,000 deaths right now in the united states. the projection is 162,000 more deaths in the next 100 days projected in this model as we have the fall case surge. let's discuss this with e l
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elizabeth cohen. you can look at the numbers and be numbed and what can we do about it? masks have become a flash in political campaigns but research says it works. >> that's right. this reinforces it. i think you're right. let's talk about what we can do. let's look at this study. what this study says is look, currently about 49% of americans wear masks. by wearing masks we mean in public and always reliably. if that 49% could go up to 85%, we could save more than 95,000 lives if we look at the time period from late september through the end of february. if we move it up to 95, we could save more than 129,000 lives. are masks perfect? no. do they help save lives, absolutely. john. >> elizabeth, cohen thank you so
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much. let's continue the conversation with dr. reiner, it's good to see you this morning. i want to go back first to the map and put the map up on the screen for people to see. you see 32 states trending in the wrong direction right now. the president said he does not see a dark winter ahead. he says we are rounding the turn. we are learning to live with this. the surgeon general of the united states this morning, who was speaking the truth, listen. >> we are seeing cases go up. this week we'll probably have our highest number of cases that we've ever had on a daily basis in the united states. we know that hospitalizations tend to lag several weeks behind cases. and we're starting to see hospitalizations go up in 75% of jurisdictions across the country. we are concerned that in a few weeks we'll see deaths start to increase in our country. >> one test of leadership is telling the truth.
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the surgeon general is telling the truth. the president in the debate last night was avoiding the truth, right? >> right. well, the president has always had an irresolvable conflict of interest which he perceived dealing with the pandemic in a straightforward way as counter to his re-election chances. that was always a false dichotomy. the truth of the matter is we're turning the corner into a su tsunami. yesterday there were 73,000 cases, 41,000 people hospitalized, and things are likely to get worse. we saw over 1,000 deaths yesterday. so one way to think about the death rate is to take the case rate, the new case rate per day and multiply that by about 2.5% and you'll see that kind of death rate on a daily basis a couple of weeks from now. so we are likely to see a
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gigantic rise in the number of daily deaths. as worrisome, our hospitals start to fill and we run the risk of overwhelming our hospital capacity in large parts of the country. the only way to reverse this is to do something very simple. which is to mask up. mask up. it's a very small thing to do. it's really low tech. mask up and we can turn this around. >> i want to go back a little bit to the debate last night, too. you mentioned the president's political interest. the president was right when he said last night, we can show you the graphic this is global and spiking everywhere, including in europe right now. we can show you this, to one degree the president is right but here's what concerns public health experts. let's start at the right of your screen. europe is back ahead of the united states in confirm cases per 1 million residents. you see the united states in orange there. what concerns the public health experts if you go back to the beginning of march, europe went
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up the hill first, a couple weeks ahead of the united states and it came down and kept the curve flattened. the united states there was several weeks lag time before we first went up the hill, we never came down and we're going back uphill again. i think you just touched on this, two weeks from now, three weeks from now, if the previous trend holds we're in a boat load of trouble here. >> we're in a boat load of trouble. if you think about the northeast during the darkest days of the pandemic in the spring when we just about ran out of ventilators and we did run out of icu capacity or hospitals all over the northeast were making ors into icus, making cafeterias into icus, hallways. that's the risk we run. the lowest we dropped after the first surge was about 20,000 cases per day. we didn't come down into the
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single digit thousands or less than that. which is what europe did. they dropped to low levels, almost negligible levels for month so they rebuilt capacity, they have capacity. we never rebuilt that. when we surged during the summer we never dropped below 30,000 to 40,000 cases per day and now we're on the way back up. the way to reverse this is, again, through wearing masks. wearing masks is easier on the public than closing down. but you could get to the point where we would have to do targeted closures. lives are at stake. >> lives are at stake. we'll watch this play out again. the numbers either way you lay it out, if you look at the graphs that's the way it's headed. doctor, grateful for your insights. coming up, back to the campaign, early voting shows democrats do have a turn out advantage but in recent days it's narrowing.
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see the number, 35% cast by republicans, 28% cast by republicans. that's from catalyst, a company that provides information to democrats, nonprofits and advocacy organizations. it's giving us insights into who's voting before november. kristen holmes is keeping track of this. democrats think they have an advantage but it's perhaps narrowing some as we get closer. >> that's right. it's dependent on what kind of voting we're talking about. talking about mail in ballots that's democrats far outpacing republicans but we've seen that trend across all of early voting. it's no longer quite looking like that, as you mentioned. particularly in key states of north carolina and florida where we're seeing the ramped up in-person early voting. north carolina for example the margin from last monday to where we are now it decreased 50%. you can see that catching up.
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it's likely to continue to rise because of that in-person voting element. i want to point out another headline for you, john. we've been talking about the court cases shaping the election. also out of north carolina this is about counting ballots. an appeals court said they would allow ballots to be counted up to nine days after the election. republicans are now challenging that, they brought it to the supreme court. we are so close to the election, generally the supreme court does not like to weigh in on these kinds of matters this close to the election. thousands of people, voters could be disenfranchised so we want to watch what they do. they did weigh in earlier this week in the case on alabama on curb side voting. the latest case out of texas, the texas supreme court actually is allowing curb side voting. they have said this is legal in harris county, the largest most
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populous county in texas. interesting to see how these cases from different courts are shaping the way we vote when 50 million people have cast ballots. >> count votes and track legal cases at the same time, grateful you're here to help us through that. up next a global terror threat. the u.s. embassy in turkey warns of potential terror attacks targeting americans. i'm gonna grow big and strong. yes, you are. i'm gonna get this place all clean. i'll give you a hand. and i'm gonna put lisa on crutches! wait, what? said she's gonna need crutches. she fell pretty hard. you might want to clean that up, girl. excuse us. when owning a small business gets real, progressive helps protect what you built with customizable coverage. -and i'm gonna -- -eh, eh, eh. -donny, no. -oh.
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there's a heightened alert for american citizens in turkey today, being warned about credible threat of possible terror attacks orch kidnappings. arwa damon joins us from istanbul. what's this about? >> reporter: we don't exactly know what sparked this but we do know as it would seem from the warning put out that the u.s. is taking it very seriously. they suspended all their visa services as well as all services to american nationals in their embassy and in all consulates in turkey. additionally, the warning when it was put out contained a bit more detail than other warnings in the past have in the sense that it specifically mentions istanbul and also mentions that
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the threat was against the u.s. console general. now, what the u.s. is telling people to do, again, not just americans but foreign nationals as well, is to be extra vigilant, to avoid crowded areas, especially those that contain foreigners like malls or office areas. the other thing, john, that's significant is that it has been quite some time since we have seen this kind of an alert, a warning being put out. now, we did ask u.s. officials in turkey whether or not this may be linked in some way to an increase in targeting that we have been seeing by the u.s. of terrorist organizations such as al qaeda in syria and it's fi fill -- its affiliates. they would not respond to that. it is worth noting as well that this is not necessarily the first time the u.s. has taken these types of measures in turkey. you'll remember back to the days
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of 2016, 2017 when there was prevalence of attacks by isis and the pkk in turkey, the u.s. did suspend operations and it did also end up evacuating the family members of staff. america is taking this very, very seriously right now. erring perhaps on the side of caution, john. >> thank you for the important live reporting. you'll stay on top of that. debates are over. 11 day sprint to election day. first, california struggling with the worst wildfire season on record. for thousands that lost their homes, 2019 hero now working to provide them with rvs until they get back on their feet with the help of his daughter, he is helping communities recover. >> unfortunately the fire has effected a lot of first responders, six of the seven volunteer firefighters in barry creek, california lost their homes, including the chief. luna and i did what we do.
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we sourced a couple of donated rvs, headed out to california, we delivered one to chief reed rankin. >> i can't say thank you enough. i deeply appreciate it. won't be coming here at least another month and a half. at least we have somewhere to be. >> he loves his community. >> it is huge. >> a couple thousand neighbors are homeless. 15 people were killed in the fire. they have been through a lot. the chief is there every day on the line, fighting the fire. >> start over somehow. i just have to get everything done up here, get the fire put out. then i can start trying to figure out what i'm going to do. but i'm definitely staying in barry creek. i'm going to somehow rebuild, hopefully fema will help us out. >> for the full story, go to krn heroes.com.
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hello. i am john king in washington. thank you for sharing your day with us. an important day it is. 11 days left. the debates are done, the campaign trail is busy. last hour, debate day after cleanup. joe biden said he wants to transition away from the oil industry. that raised eyebrows, among some democrats that say oil, gas, fracking are key to jobs. biden immediately tried to amend his answer after the debate. today, his running mate kamala
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