hello. i am john king in washington. thank you for sharing your day with us. an important day it is. 11 days left. the debates are done, the campaign trail is busy. last hour, debate day after cleanup. joe biden said he wants to transition away from the oil industry. that raised eyebrows, among some democrats that say oil, gas, fracking are key to jobs. biden immediately tried to amend his answer after the debate. today, his running mate kamala harris doing damage control.

>> joe biden is not going to ban fracking. he is going to deal with oil subsidies, but the president likes to put everything out of context. let's be clear, what joe was talking about was banning subsidies, he will not ban fracking in america. >> this is always an odd wait and see moment. we knew the state of the race when they walked on stage last night. joe biden was the frontrunner and convincingly so if you study numbers like that, or if you look at the map. when the debate ended, instant polls scored it a biden win. consensus instant analysis is maybe president trump helped his cause some but not enough. america's take. voters around the country, their takes often differ than washington's take. now we wait a few days to see how the final debate settles across the 50 state puzzle. we know some things as we wait. more than 50 million ballots are cast. data tells us democrats have an edge there. we know the coronavirus, already the defining 2020 issue is

surging as the leaves change and as the election nears. take a look. thursday, 71,000 plus new cases. 71,000 is the fourth highest single day total of the pandemic. the daily average of new cases is 61,000. 12 states hitting new highs for the daily average yesterday. covid has 40,000 americans in the hospital today. and the daily average of new deaths is ticking up again as well. back to covid and its impact, let's start with the debate, whether or not it will impact this. headed into the debate, we had joe biden at 290 electoral votes. deep blue states, solid biden, light blue, lean biden. takes 270 to win. he walked on stage knowing if nothing else changed, he could well be the next president of the united states. president trump needs a come back. only 163 electoral votes in the outlook as he walked on stage. the question is did he turn in a strong enough debate performance to change the map.

watch the states asbest toss up. the president carried them all four years ago. we will watch. does advertising mix change over the weekend, do polling numbers change going into next week. what republicans hope for is the president's debate was strong enough to do this, to get these states back in the republican fold. he won them four years ago. the democrats are hoping voters watched the debate and said we were inclined to like joe biden coming in, now if these states lean joe biden's way, if they're competitive in the end, he has a money advantage, too, we could show you that, he has a cash on hand advantage heading into final weeks of the campaign. joe biden says if i come out of the debate okay in a map favorable to me, i have $162 million in my campaign account to 43 million, 44 million if you round up for the president. biden plus friendly committees, $331 million. 223 million for the president and his most friendly committees. the vice president, former vice

president, enormous advantage. see how the debate impacts the map. then biden has money to fix things or take advantage of opportunities in days ahead. that's the challenge as we head to the final ten days of the campaign. in the debate, the president did press his case. it was normal. they talked. no interruptions. big exchanges on energy, over health care, over taxes. joe biden spent time saying he is just wrong. >> he wants to close down, he'll close down the country if one person in our massive bureaucracy says we should close it down. >> vice president biden. >> simply not true. >> he is the vice president of the united states and his son, his brother, and his other brother are getting rich. they're like a vacuum cleaner. >> not true. >> i gave $28 billion to farmers. >> taxpayer money. >> it is what? >> the taxpayer, it is called

china. >> not true. >> joining the conversation, abby phillip and jonathan martin of "new york times." abby, start with you. kamala harris doing cleanup, they felt they had to fix something the morning after, make sure people understood the vice president is not going to get rid of fracking tomorrow or the oil industry tomorrow. but he did say he wants to eventually transition. overall do they feel good the morning after or are they a little worried? >> it does seem like the biden campaign feels generally they did fine but the fracking issue and oil, gas, fossil fuel issue is one that joe biden keeps stumbling over, even going back to the primary. he keeps saying things that his campaign later says actually, that's not our plan. that's not our policy. and we often talk about joe biden being someone that's a little prone to gaffes, this is one of the cases he was clearly,

i don't know what he intended to say. obviously if you ask environmentalists, they'll say yeah, we need to transition away from oil and gas, but i think biden also knows that that is at this point not his plan and that that is a statement that's going to put vulnerable democrats in trouble in a lot of parts of the country, and even could effect his prospects in a key state for him, which is pennsylvania. >> jonathan, one of the key pressures on joe biden because of evolution of the democratic party. he is an older school democrat who looks at pennsylvania, who wants to go more slowly perhaps. and there are others that say let's move quickly as possible to the green new deal. you pointed it out last night. two democratic house members, horn of oklahoma, torrez small of new mexico, tweeting after joe biden's remarks saying whoa whoa whoa, this is one of the places biden and i disagree. we must stand up for oil and gas industry. new mexico tweet. i disagree with vp biden's statement. energy us part of the backbone

of new mexico's economy. you see it in real time playing out. ten days from election day. biden is the overall leader, i don't think any of us think there was anything he did last night to really hurt himself. maybe did he a little hurt himself here? >> didn't help himself with the few undecided voters that exist still and energy producing parts of the country. i think he probably created more uncomfortable spot for members of congress and those kind of seats you mention, places like oklahoma or eastern new mexico which are huge oil communities in america. i think that will probably create more of a mess for down ticket democrats. to the broader point, john, joe biden has had a blessing this campaign. the basement campaign has been a blessing for democrats. last night was a reminder why it has been a blessing because joe biden is given to say things he or his staff later have to clean up. the fact that he's never had to

have like four or five events along the day on a campaign trail and instead has run a campaign in the covid year which is totally understandable, he is following safety protocols, has been convenient for he and his party. i think this was always the risk with nominating biden, he would have these gaffes that had to be cleaned up after the fact. the larger issue, this is a one issue campaign for all intents and purposes. are they irritant? yes, they can be. this is mostly about donald trump and his conduct. how did last night change that in a serious way. >> back to that point. joe biden, number one, coronavirus was the first topic. number two, president says i don't see a dark winter. facts tell you, joe biden says we are headed into a dark winter. on the facts, you can pick a different adjective, headed into a sobering time if you look at the case count. not only does joe biden prosecute the case he would do a better job with the pandemic, he tries to make the case look who this guy is, making an empathy

argument. let's listen. >> sitting at the kitchen table this morning deciding we can't get new tires, we have to wait another month. are we going to be able to pay the mortgage. who will tell her she can't go back to community college. they're the decisions you're making, middle class families like i grew up in scranton and claymont. >> what a political statement. the family, around the table. typical politician. that's why i got elected. let's get off the subject of china and talk about sitting around the table. come on, joe, you can do better than that. >> we're never quite sure. america's take is sometimes different than washington's take. joe biden tried to play to his strength which is that i get you, i understand your pain and your trouble now, this guy doesn't. the president saying that's a cop out. >> yeah. it is an interesting strategy for president trump to say that talking about what people are experiencing around the kitchen

table is a typical politician talking point. i think that that is challenging argument to make when the coronavirus really has made literal kitchen table issues, literal life and death, being perhaps the most important issue for american voters. it is a bit of a risk to take that route. i see what he was trying to do which is, you know, the president knows and his advisers know that nobody is going to be convinced that donald trump is somehow the sort of par a gone of the the perfect politician. he has to lean into this. i am unconventional. you may not like my tone or attitude but you like the things i'm doing and i'm actually thinking about the policies that are going to effect you. that's what he is trying to do there. but again, i think it is a little bit of a risk to come across as dismissive about the real fact that we are approaching thanksgiving and people are thinking about whether they can even have a thanksgiving dinner with their

families. that's a real thing that the president has to contend with. >> on this day after, trying to figure out what is the impact. we know republicans have a sense of cheer, if only because the bar is so low for the president. if only because republican senate candidates, vulnerable republicans and other races don't have to be asked about interruptions and rude nness, c have a conversation about taxes and health care and decide what they like about policy. republicans like that. joe biden walked in as the frontrunner, has more money in the bank. state polling, he has a menu of opportunities, including in texas. the argument is do you play it safe here, do pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin the final ten days, put most of your time and money there or go bold. do you think you can stretch the map. flip georgia, get florida, maybe play in texas. >> well, i think that their

instinct internally is to be safe and not put the ball in the air, get the three yards in a cloud of dust. both 2016 and joe biden's instincts and that of his top aides wants them to secure 270 first. that's the number one goal. that said, there are different ways to get to 270. i think they see the data, they know a place like georgia is changing dramatically. in some respects, georgia is easier to get than ohio or iowa. makes more sense to be there, on the ground, on tv, and yes, give texas a go. this is a numbers game. i think the biden campaign is looking at the polling data, looking at the early votes. looking at what big cities and numbers of folks flocking to polls. john, a lot of parts of america by election day, big cities will have surpassed the 2016 total vote and you can be assured the

biden campaign, they see that, they know it, they'll have to make crucial decisions in the final week of the campaign where to spend their time and their money and what makes the most sense. what's the easiest way to get to 270 beyond the traditional states we're familiar with. >> time is running short, believe it or not. if you're going to change your plan in the chess game, you have to do it over the weekend heading into the final week. jonathan martin, grateful for the insights. the country hits coronavirus records. it has sadly not seen since the summer surge. we're going back up.

coronavirus trends at the moment are sober, if not depressing. let's look at the 50 state map. you can just tell if you have been here before, orange and red are bad. you see a lot of orange, a little red. rhode island is red. 50% plus more new infections compared to a week ago. orange somewhere between 10% higher infections this week, up

to 50% more than the week before. 32 states. 32 of the 50 states now trending the wrong direction in terms of more new infections than a week ago. 17 states are holding steady. only one, oregon, trending down at the moment. a bleak map when you look at it. we talked about this before. as this trended worse in recent days, wait two weeks, sadly you get this. the death trends also heading up. 28 states now reporting more deaths now compared to a week ago. and you see a lot of deep red here, ohio, indiana, south carolina out here, idaho, wyoming, nebraska, arizona. 50% more deaths this week or higher than a week ago. this is a trend that's troubling as you look ahead and watch case trajectory. this is the case trajectory. why are public health experts worried? the summer surge got us up above 70, we dropped to shy of 40. we're heading back up again. yesterday, 71,671 new infections

reported in the united states of america. this is what worries public health experts. this was the summer peak. draw the line out. inevitable. it will surpass the summer peak heading into the colder fall and winter months. that's troubling. this tells you all the more so about the challenge ahead, how it is not going to go away tomorrow. look at some of the numbers. you look at pennsylvania. it is 10% positivity rate. iowa, 55% positivity rate. kansas at 21. south dakota at 35. wyoming, 31. idaho, 33. all of those infections, people infected means risk of spread when digits are that high. 31%, 35%. 55%, 14%. that causes trouble. then that causes hospitalizations. hospitalizations trending back up again. 40,000 mernamericans in the hosl with coronavirus. trend lines headed the wrong direction. so much so the model by ihme at

washington state, university of washington, excuse me, 223,000 americans died of coronavirus as of today. projection, february 1st, 385,000. that's more than 160,000 americans to die in the next 100 days. managing this is a public health charge of enormous proportion anyway. listen to the surgeon general who says the task of getting you more personally responsible, wear a mask, social distance, is more complicated in election year. >> there's no chapter in the pandemic play book for impeachment trial. that's where this started in the united states. there's no chapter in the pandemic play book for a presidential election. there's no chapter in the pandemic play book for a social justice movement the likes of which we haven't seen since the '60s in the country. if i say hydroxychloroquine, someone puts you into a trump or biden camp.

if i say wear a mask, someone puts you into a democrat or republican camp. important to understand the context. >> with me, cnn chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. good to see you. but i am seeing you at a time, if you go through the numbers, you look at the trend lines, cases up dangerously. hospitalizations up. positivity rate in the midwest and prairie states is downright depressing. >> yeah. i mean, there's no question, the numbers are increasing, john. when you look deeper at some of the numbers you were just showing, you see the pace at which they're increasing is fster as well. that's one of the big concerns. you have to look at both these things in parallel. as you point out, compared to july when people were covid fatigue is not a new thing, they were having the same covid fatigue into july 4th weekend. it was predictable there would be significant increase in the overall number of people infected after that.

but people were still able to be outside largely at that point. covid fatigue, people are mobile, holidays coming up, people have to be inside. that's a huge concern, starting from a higher level and less sort of buffering from the weather and outdoors is a real problem. we saw it 100 years ago. this was the worst time of the 1918 pandemic as well. human behavior in the last 100 years hasn't changed much. john, one thing to point out, we talked about this, we tell people to do preventive things. patients say how do i know that will work, preventive measures you talk about. look at places around the country that have implemented some basic public health measures. nothing super fancy. arizona, for example, after they lifted the stay at home orders, first couple weeks of june, saw numbers go way up. they were starting to red line. it was really, really concerning. hospitals becoming full.

then they put in basically three things, middle of july. mask requirements, limiting large public events, and certain businesses closing. 75% reduction following basic public health measures. john, this should inspire people. right now, we're going into exponential growth. to plateau would be a really good outcome in terms of where we are, if you could actually reliably ben reliably bend the curve down, it would be huge. there wasn't a vaccine, nothing therapeutic, basic health stuff. >> one of the questions looking at the united states is remembering the history. i know we have the graphic. you can walk people through it when you look at the european union. the president in the debate said this is everywhere. he is right, it is everywhere. you look at the history as it goes up in european union, you remember at the beginning, again, orange line is the united states. green line is european union.

walk through, sanjay, the fear that the eu, 1 million residents, passed the united states. the president says that's proof we're doing better than them. that's how he likes to characterize it. we were two and a half, three weeks behind them going up the first hill and that's the worry, right? >> that is absolutely the worry. this is maybe the closest thing you have to a crystal ball if you will. in march, we looked at italy saying it looks terrible, what's happening in italy. that's not going to happen here. just as you said a couple weeks later, not only did that happen here, our overall trend line increased. they were able to in the european union, that continent, bring things down for a period of time. but john, contagious virus, reopening, starting to have covid fatigue, not abiding by public health practices, they're in exponential growth in european union, and again, we are a couple weeks behind there. that's the concern. we're trying to avoid it. it is not inevitable, but it is

looking more that way. john, i don't need to tell you there are places in the world that have different sort of trend lines. south korea, we bring it up, they had the first patient diagnosed the same day as ours. if we had adopted what they did in south korea in this country according to a new study from columbia, there would be 2800 people that would have died by this point in the pandemic in the united states. 2800 total opposed to 220,000. >> the key points there, key pieces are, a, consistent leadership from the top, political leadership, public health leadership, and personal responsibility. we listened to the president, he says we are rounding the corner, turned the bend, it will be over soon. listen to his own secretary of health and human services saying something very, very different. >> this is being driven by individual behaviors at this point. community spread is happening because we have to keep focused on washing our hands, watching

distance, wearing face coverings when we can't watch distance, careful in household gatherings. this is a major vector of disease spread. >> the president had audience of millions. he could have said that. he didn't. >> no. he didn't. and frankly, secretary azar is talking about the public health strategies we've known for awhile, but these have not been implemented on a national scale. i mean, it makes a huge difference. we are the united states. people travel back and forth and areas that may have had better control, they were still effected by areas that had poorer control. that's the problem. now when you look at the map that you showed, the country is coalescing around a collective upward trend. before it was wave over here, wave over here, wave over here. now it is turning into a large surge. by the way, the other thing is what about testing. secretary azar talks about

individual behavior and he is right. we just abandoned the idea of being able to test in a way that was meaningful. i can be with you onset now, despite that we don't have a vaccine if i can be tested regularly, you could be tested regularly, i would have confidence that i don't have it, i would have the confidence that you don't have it likely, we would still wear masks but it would be a different picture. we abandoned that idea early on and never caught up. >> a sad statement in the united states of america. but it is where we are at the moment, to your point about the national scale of this. that's what is troubling when you look at the numbers and the map. grateful for your insights, especially on your 27th birthday? 27 or 28 today. >> that's right. almost 30 now, john, yeah. feels like a decade since my last birthday, i'll be honest. >> happy birthday to our child prodigy. >> been a long year. >> it has been, yes. president trump supporters are saying about his dialed back

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that was in particular nice, they have been at war with israel a long time. i don't know if it was fighting, i don't know that. probably there's been a little bit. certainly for many years you have been officially at war with sudan. now it is not only the deal signed but peace. so that's official. and that's nice. we have at least five that want to come in and we'll have many more than that soon. >> when you say want to come in? >> want to come into the deal. part of a peace deal. and you know what it is costing the united states? nothing. nothing. it is so nice. isn't that nice? i say nothing. why should we be paying? we are settling peace. it is like kosovo and serbia. you look at what's happened there. we're doing a trade deal, two trade deals, they were killing each other for 25 years, much longer than that. i said we're doing trade with each country, settle it up so you don't have to kill each other. they were so happy.

so we settled a deal. we do a lot of things people don't know about, fellas. anything other questions? >> can you walk us through what normalized relations means? >> you want what normalized relationship, what it means and what it means to you. mind boggling, okay? few days ago i wanted to -- there was a ship, a huge ship, container ship came in from the emrats, first one was a week earlier. these were the first container ships coming from free trade area in dubai coming that they had washing machines. that's bringing down the price,

we have to go around the red sea, the peninsula, would take us hours to get anywhere. need to get to arabian peninsula, we didn't have relations there. now people are planning there now. all of the tourism agents are flocking to abu dhabi, dubai, bahrain, and they have requests and they want to come to us, tourism, trade, entrepreneurs, everything. we have to work with sudan. each of us what it had to offer the other. it changes lives of people. exactly what you said, mr. president, we're not engaging in bloodshed, antagonism, we're engaging in cooperation for the present and future.

it is not a distant train. we're seeing the fruits of peace right now in these days, days after signing the agreements. we've never seen anything like this. i want to share one thing that i see, enthusiasm for most countries in the world, for most people in the world, across the political divide. iran is not happy. hamas is unhappy. most everybody else is very happy. and they should be because peace is a good thing. it's a very good thing. if you ask me what does it feel like, it is amazing. >> and they're also poor, iran is poor, hamas is poor. they're all poor and they weren't poor three years ago, they were blowing everything up. they're very poor. do you think sleepy joe could have made this deal, bb, do you think he would have made this

deal somehow? i don't think so. >> mr. president, one thing i can tell you is we appreciate the help for peace from anyone in america. we appreciate it with you. appreciate what you've done. this will be in the history books. history registers -- >> i think it is a terrific thing and it should be completed pretty soon. >> i wonder if you could expand what it means to iran, the pressure these deals place on it. >> ultimately iran may become a member of this thing, if you want to know the truth, you'll have everybody together with the united states and beyond the united states, you'll have other major powers involved. and with it, that have to be signed into it, because it is a region, but with it. i could see iran, someday, i

would love to help iran, get iran back on track. gdp went down 27%. they've gone from a rich country to a poor country in a period of three years. and i would love to get them back on track. they just can't have nuclear weapons. nuclear weapons. always death to israel, that's all they shout is death to israel, so they can't have nuclear weapons but they can have what they want. they should be a great nation. they're great people. i know so many iranians, i have a lot of iranian friends, should be a great nation and we want it to be a great nation but can't have nuclear weapons, and i could see iran ultimately, right now, doesn't sound like something that would happen, i see it happening. ultimately, they'll all be one unified family. it will be the same thing. probably has never happened in the middle east. because the middle east is known for conflict, fighting. >> the normalization and --

[ inaudible ] >> i think that is moving along, that process is moving along. it is a good process. we've had an incredible relationship, long term. never had a dispute with uae. they've always been on our side. that process is moving along, hopefully rapidly. >> can you speak a little about how that is playing into the dynamics of normalization deal with israel? >> which plans. >> to remove sudan from state sponsored? >> mr. president, we have been working with sudan for as long as i have been part of the administration to address the issue of state sponsor of terrorism. they did all of the things they needed to do. the two leaders of sudan did all of the right things, we now have civilian led government inside

sudan. the rationale for them being designated state sponsor made no sense. we wanted to be sure victims of terror had compensation. we have now accounted for that, $335 million will go to victims from the terror attacks. but now sudan has fully complied. the leaders have done great work. want to support that civilian led government, want them to be successful. it is appropriate to lift this. this will be something to help the sudanese people and government. you'll see trade not only between israel and sudan but the united states and sudan as well. >> sudan has great potential on trade and other things. it could be a very successful, wonderful country and i think it will be. it has been hampered by what's going on. >> can you explain how that connects with the deal with israel and negotiation -- >> they're connected in the sense that sudanese leadership made sense. both had one thing in common, made sense for sudanese people to build up the economy, create

democratic institutions, all the things the people have been demanding, they're connected in the sense of the leadership is now driving towards a good outcome and improved life for people of sudan and for the broader region in north africa as well. >> with leaders on the phone, they have been incredible leaders. they have been incredible leaders. you have great leadership now which you haven't had in the past. >> obviously you're hitting the road the next couple days. are you envisioning a meeting in washington between the sudanese and israels and i'm curious, what's it like to do something like this while campaigning. >> it is my life. i don't have a choice. all things i have been working on and then the campaign. the campaign begins and last night was very, very successful. gotten great reviews, great polls, great everything. and when 91% to 9, that's good. that was an exciting night.

tremendous awed yenudience, bign they even thought. it was an exciting night. this is my day job, this is what i have to do. this is important. we will have them along with other countries that you'll be hearing about coming probably simultaneously and then ultimately we're going to have a big reunion at the end where everybody is here and everybody will be signed. we expect saudi arabia will be one of those countries. and highly respected, the king, the crown prince, they're all highly respected in the middle east. muhammad from uae, highly respected, a warrior. he is a great warrior. they'll all come together. we'll have a big, beautiful party at the end, okay, and you'll be there. okay. anybody else have a question? >> everybody was watching the debate last night.

you seemed much more calm and measured at the podium. how was that, was that you changing strategy or trying to play by debate commission rules? what was going through your mind. >> i think the other is more effective in terms of business and life, the first one. i thought i did great. there are certain groups of aggressive people that loved the first debate but i think this was better. this is obviously a more popular way of doing it. i think i wanted to play by the rules. they felt very strongly about it. it is two different styles. i'm able to do different styles if you had to. this seemed to be much more popular. >> would you do another debate? >> yeah, but i don't think there's any reason. i think we're leading in a lot of states that you don't know about. your polsters may be the worst there are. >> standing by a statement you take responsibility for the pandemic -- >> i always take responsibility and i have done a great job. the people around me have done a

great job like these people have done a great job, the paepd peop pandemic people, for ventilators and stocking governors that had nothing. nothing on their shelves, we stocked them. those governors if they're honest will tell you we've done the best job they've seen. i had governors say it is one of the best jobs they've seen anybody do on anything. we made a lot of governors look good. and there are a lot of good governors, too, but they didn't have ventilators, gowns, masks, goggles or anything. and we got them. and think of it, ventilators are tough. not one person with all of this going on, not one person who needed a ventilator didn't get it. and that's very untrue in other countries. in other countries very few people were able to get. we're now supplying ventilators to many other countries because they're hard to make. they're very complex, hard to make, very expensive. so no, i think we've done a

great job. >> do you think you can have talks with speaker pelosi? >> i think we can. >> go ahead. >> the president is clear if we can get the right deal, we are going to do that. we have been speaking to the speaker, i would say we offered compromises, the speaker on a number of issues is still dug in. if she wants to compromise, there will be a deal. but we've made lots of progress, lots of areas, but there's still significant dirchlfferences. >> the big differences, i said it last night, she wants to bail out poorly run democrat states, they're poorly run in terms of crime and economics. and we just don't want that. we want covid related. she wants to bail out poorly run democrat states and that's a problem. you're talking tremendous amounts of money. we don't want to reward areas of our country who have not done a

good job. a lot of the areas have not done a good job on medical and covid frankly. if you look at new york, you look at some others, it has been rough. it has been very rough. but we don't want to do that. we're talking, we'll see what happens but at this moment i would say that i actually think nancy would rather wait until after the election. she thinks it is a good point for the election, i think it is against her. the american people know it is her stopping the money going to them. i really believe it. i think she views it as a good election point. i don't think she wants people to get the money before the election. i don't think that's a good point for her. but we want people to get the money. it wasn't their fault, it was china's fault. it was china's fault, the plague came in from china and that's about it. that's enough.

thank you. we're talking about it, we are working, we have a good relationship with our men. very dedicated, incredible people. we'll see what happens. >> have you spoken to the leader? >> i don't want to say. we'll see what happens. really good progress being made with respect. armenia, we have a lot of people living in this country from armenia, originally from armenia. they're great people, we're going to help them. >> you have the prime minister, sir. you mentioned potential scenario -- >> i think at the end iran will be, i can see that. i would say that, sure. go ahead. >> this is jeff mason, he has a mask on, he has the largest mask

on. he wants to know what you gentlemen think about when it is all finished up and everybody is in the deal, i said i wouldn't be surprised to see iran be friendly also. everybody unified. and i think iran will be in some way involved. and what do you think about that? >> well, i was beginning to say that when i spoke with the american congress, i didn't say i was opposed to any deal, i said i was opposed to that deal. that deal had restrictions from iran and did not condition any change, require any change of behavior from iran, so iran essentially increased its aggression after the deal rather than reduce it. ballistic missiles, enrichment of uranium for bombs. i think if a new deal is offered, and that's what i said

when i spoke to u.s. congress, a different deal, it would be welcome. i think that will open happen if iran faces i would say faces strong opposition to its aggression, the kind that has been by you, mr. president. if you're soft, you're not getting peace with iran. if you're strong against iran as you just said from achieving nuclear weapons, i think we can get to a better deal, a real deal. i think it is something that no one would be opposed to. so far that's not been available. >> when everybody is unified and this is all done, won't be a long period of time, iran will be in some way involved, if not part of the deal, they'll be very happy. you know what, they're tired of fighting too, they're tired of what's going on. those are great people. they want an end to it. they want an end to it. if we win the election, they

don't want me to say when, say if, if we win the election, one of the first calls i will get is from iran. let's make a deal. one of the first calls i'll get. so they don't want me to win, and russia doesn't want me to win either. what's unique about the two countries, they both don't want me to win and that's okay but i think we're going to win and i think if you start looking at what's happening in these states and votes that are coming in and the amount of votes coming in, and the great red wave hasn't hit yet. that hits in a few days. it will be a great red wave like you've never seen before. you'll have a wave like you've never seen before. it will be all red. and it is going to be a thing of beauty. >> have a good time, everybody. thanks.

thank you very much. >> president of the united states in the oval office with the national security team, taking questions from reporters after announcing the united states helped broker normalization of relations between sudan and state of israel. that's a big deal. details are scant. we'll see how it plays out. the prime minister joining by speaker phone, answering questions from reporters. the president talking about the debate, says he is confident he did a good job. predicted a red wave coming, even though polls show joe biden with a big lead, the president says that will change in days ahead predicting a red wave. let's discuss what we heard. joining me, oren lieberman. boris sanchez. the president confident about the debate, talking about normalization of relations as building block towards middle east and regional peace. if you sum it up, trying to use his day job, power of incumbency to make a statement in closing days of the campaign.

>> reporter: that's right. injecting politics into normalization of relations between israel and sudan. it is a trend we have seen from the white house lately brokering deals between israel and -- they've gotten this deal done. netanyahu carried the question. the president is clearly -- when speaking about iran, saying one of the first calls he would get if reelected would be from iranian leadership and he would try to navigate the prospects of potential deal with that government. he was also asked about the debate. as noted, the president saying he felt good about his performance, that he performed in a style that was more popular

and calm. the trump campaign is happy about performance, reporting a boost of $26 million in fundraising tied to the debate last night. >> oren, bring the significance to us. i want to know at the top of it, the president of the united states says it is ending war between sudan and israel, didn't know if they were fighting, but this ended the war. kind of stunning to hear the president of the united states say things like that about the state of global affairs. how significant is this? >> it is very significant. israel and sudan have been in the past in a state of war. did the two sides directly fight, no. but in 1948, sudan supported egypt which was very much at war with israel. there is a big difference here. the two countries have had a state of war in the past, this will officially end that. that makes it fundamentally different than the agreements

between israel, uae, and bahrain. those countries have never been at war. that was formalizing agreements under the table until that point. sudan is famous for another reason, the 1967 cartoon resolution. no to peace, no to negotiations israel. the turning around of that, changing with normalization is a significant statement, certainly foreign policy accomplishment by the white house, and big one for the prime minister netanyahu who poip pointed out this is three yeses within a few months here. >> we appreciate your insights after that event with the president. see you back here monday. also hope to see you sunday morning for inside politics if you can join us. busy new days. brianna keilar picks up coverage after a quick break. have a good day.

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hello, i am brianna keilar. i want to welcome viewers here in the united states and around the world. the pandemic in america is a disaster. it already was, now it is getting worse. the first coronavirus wave never really ended. cases never dipped low enough for a trough between waves. now the fall and winter surge is upon us. the president is still not modeling cdc guidelines, even after contracting covid. but his secretary of health and human services is urging americans to. >> this is being driven by individual behaviors at this point, community spread is happening because we've got to keep focused on washing our hands, watching distance, wearing face coverings when we can't watch distance, and being careful in household gatherings. this has become a major vector of disease spread. >> more than half the u.s., 32 states, show upward trend in cases. yesterday, there wer