the fall coronavirus surge shatters records. >> we have mishandled the pandemic. we could have avoided this by doing the right thing. >> and the final campaign sprint, advantage biden. >> the president has quit on you. he's quit on america. >> this election is a choice between a trump superboom and a biden lockdown. >> and the pandemic election x-factor. early voting is off the charts. >> if you're not going to vote, don't complain for the next four years. >> we wanted to make sure we did this in person. we didn't trust the poelgt system with this. >> welcome to "inside politics kwtz. to our viewers around the world thank you for sharing your sunday. election day is a week from tuesday. and two new records remind us this is a campaign like no other. the daily high for new coronavirus infections was shattered friday and yesterday came in a close second.

80,000 plus new infections a day is suddenly our new normal. and then at least three of the new cases close advisers to mike pence is a stunning reminder this is the pandemic election. the second record is a co-vid spinoff. early in mail-in voting numbers are eye popping. more than 57 million mail-in ballots are at a high. high voter anxiety about safety. nine days out that safety question front and center extending to the accouncandidat. the vice president plans to keep a busy travel schedule. the white house says he is an essential work and they are excusing him from cdc guidelines recommending he quarantine for 14 days. the white house chief of staff wanted to keep this secret. the trump/pence ticket is -- the

promise ignored the science and ignored the experts. as do both the vice president's plans to keep campaigning and the boss's effort to brush off this third and steepest coronavirus surge. >> do you know why we have cases? because we test to much, and in many ways it's good, and in many ways it's foolish. in many ways it's foolish. >> north carolina, ohio and wisconsin were the president's stops yesterday. saturday. all three set new co-vid case records this past week. all three were trump red in 2016 but all three are in play for joe biden in 2020. >> they're saying what's going on in florida? they're saying what's going on in north carolina? it's looking great. looking fantastic. right? and a place called wisconsin. you ever hear of wisconsin?

up. way up. >> we have ten days left. and it may come down to pennsylvania. and i believe in you. i believe in my state. the choice has never been clear and the stakes have never been higher. >> biden has better polls, more campaign cash and more paths to victory. his two stops in pennsylvania yesterday were proof of the crucial importance and proof biden feels the need to clean up a final debate answer that left the clear impression fracking and fossil fuels would lose if he wins. >> by the way, let me get something straight here in coal country. i will not ban fracking, period. i'll protect pennsylvania jobs, period, no matter how many times donald trump says it. >> biden's events are socially distanced. a deliberate pandemic contrast to the president's crowded rallies. >> i wish i could go car to car and meet you all. i don't like the idea of all

this distance, but it's necessary. i appreciate you being safe. what we don't want to do is become super spread eers, but thank you so much. i wish i could see all of you back there, but thank you. thank you. thank you for being here. >> with us this sunday to share the reporting and inisights, molly ball and jeff zeleny. a new cluster of cases at the white house. this one around the vice president of the united states. your newspaper is reporting the white house chief of staff wanted to keep this secret. number two, the vice president plans to go on the road to keep campaigning even though if it were anybody on the screen and anybody watching at home the cdc would say quarantine for 14 days. they're saying he's an essential worker, therefore, this is okay. >> this is a stunning development. another october surprise at the beginning of october we had the outbreak surrounding president trump and the fact that he contracted the virus and several other people within the white

house and within his orbit got sick and now the vice president's closest aides have contracted the virus. people who have spent a lot of time in close contact with the vice president, and he's continuing to campaign. this is the head of the white house coronavirus task force, openly flouting some of the guidelines and recommendations from the cdc which essentially say that if you are in close contact with someone, at least out of abundance of caution, even if you test negative, you should not be traveling or spending a lot of time around other people. obviously we're in the final days of a presidential campaign, so you might expect the vice president to try to figure out how he can continue to campaign. in terms of sending the best message during record cases and we have so many americans who are not following the guidelines the cdc is putting out. the fact is vice president is openfully flouting some of the recommendations is not a good message to send to people trying to get this virus under control. so i do think this is going to be a very problematic set of days for the vice president in

which he's openly campaigning, traveling around the country, meeting with other people when he may be at risk of spreading the virus. this is something we'll be watching closely, but not a positive october surprise for the trump campaign. another negative one. >> and molly, do you, as i do, i want to apologize, it's "the new york times" reporting measuriar meadows apparently tried to keep this a secret. he will be here later with jake tapper. he'll answer questions to that. he presumably is briefed on this and knows the case count is going up and knows the country, especially a lot of trump states, the midwest and mountain plains being hit hard. listen to how dismissive he is of the virus that defines the country's crisis right now and this election. >> we're rounding the turn. we're doing great. our numbers are incredible. that's all i hear about now. turn on television. co-vid. co-vid. co-vid.

co-vid. a plane goes down. 500 people dead. they don't talk about it. co-vid. co-vid. co-vid. by the way, on november 4th, you won't hear about it anymore. it's true. co-vid. co-vid. >> he's wrong. we'll be talking about this quite some time was the numbers are going up. in terms of this campaign moment, does he think the american people don't know what's happening in their own communities and lives? >> well, look, for the entire time he's within president, donald trump has been selling an alternate version of reality that only works if you sort of suspend disbelief. right? so i've been to some of these trump events in the last weeks. t really fun to be in a situation where people can be together and pretend nothing is wrong. it just isn't true. and when you have news like what's happened in the vice president's office, it's yet another reminder that the virus does not care how you feel about

it or let you take it seriously. it's there no matter what and it's a reality for so many americans whether it's the way we've changed our live and the way we go about our functioning, or having actually been sick and having h having. and with this latest surge, more and more people will feel that reality and it becomes harder and harder for the president to make claims where he's saying what he said at the beginning, that this has just been ginned up by us as an attack on him personally. i think most people understand that's not actually how these things work. >> right. most people are living it. remote learning, not returning to work. jeff zeleny. the president was just in north carolina yesterday. they voted for obama in '08. the president is trying to change the subject. newspapers around the country, he's trying to seize on the

remark by joe biden which joe biden tried to clean up, taking issue with the fossil fuel industry. this is what the president wants to talk about in the final days. listen to him in north carolina trying to get back away from co-vid and back to an economic message. >> for the last half a century, joe biden has been outsourcing your jobs, opening your borders, and sacrificing american blood and treasure in endless and ridiculous foreign wars. i fight for the middle class and biden and his cronies serve only one class. they serve the donor class. believe it or not. joe is not what you need. i know what you need. i know what you need. you need trump. you need trump. >> the defining question is the trump campaign says we're doing all these rallies. we're on the road. the president feels momentum. sure we're behind, but we were last time and came back. the defining question, he is the incumbent. is anybody outside the trump base, anybody not at a trump rally going to listen and be

persuaded or are they going to look around and say pandemic, what did you do about it? >> john, that is the key question and the key challenge for the president. and the reality is he's not going outside the trump base. look at the travel schedule. in fact, the vice president as he plans to fly to north carolina again today going to a county they won four years ago. not surprising they are trying to, of course, ring some more votes out of every county in this state and other battle ground states. but john, the president's right about one thing. co-vid. that is on the news here in north carolina. there's political adds and there's co-vid news about deaths, about hospitalizations, about school closings and business closings. there's nothing that the president has been able to do to get beyond this, and as vice president, not helping matters because again, flying here to north carolina with four of his aides testing positive. the reality going into the final stretch of this campaign, it is a base strategy for this president, no question about it. but north carolina, republicans

here are anxious to say the least, john. i've been here for about 24 hours or so. we'll be here a few more days talking to voters. they're anxious. this should not be a state where the president is fighting hard to win at the very end. you said at the beginning president obama won it in 2008, but it's largely a republican state. there are all kinds of races here. a governor's race and a key senate race, the presidential rate, local races. and republicans are anxious because of what the president is doing and talking about. the suburbs have left the president to a large degree because of coronavirus. so that's why they're trying to ring out these votes in the rural areas. but rural areas also being hit so hard by this virus. so we do know in the closing week of this campaign, there is no escaping covid-19. >> no escaping, molly ball, but this is also a contrast now that biden has played up for some time and been mocked by the trump people. they mocked the circles at

socially distanced events. senator harris came off the road for four days when two people close to her, an aide and person on the flight crew tested positive as a precaution. the democrats say we're being responsible. now the republicans say watch -- the president and his team are being reckless. reckless versus responsible in the coming days. >> that's right. and i've seen some polling that when people are asked do you think that the president brought this on himself essentially with reckless behavior or is this just something that can happen to anybody, wad luck, a majority of the public believes the president was engaged in reckless behavior and that's at least part of the reason he caught the virus. it has been really interesting to see over the last several months the way the handling of the virus itself not just the policies, but the administration put in to place but the

symbolism of virus precautions have become this political football. you see it all the way down the ballot. you see local candidates, senate candidates in different states attacking each other for going to events and not wearing masks, having political conventions. you see this dramatic divergence in the way two parties are handling it. it flows from the top of the ballot. all the way down local democrats being more cautious in a lot of cases not even deploying traditional field organizing operations. where republican candidates have been much more aggressive about being in person, not wearing masks. again, taking their cues from the president. so to the extent that there is overwhelming public support for virus safety measures. the public by and large across partisan lines takes this virus seriously, so that's clearly the reason the candidates are sending the different messages with the democrats trying to communicate to the public. not only to remind them about the message of taking it

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maybe 10% more. maybe 20% more. more infections everywhere. it's everywhere. 15 states holding steady. zero states right now reporting fewer infections than a week ago. if we turned a corner, it's a turn for the worst. you see it here in the case curve. remember the peak of the summer surge. 80,000 cases a day. july 16th, '77,000. that was the peak of the surge. we passed it friday and saturday. the experts say this line is going to keep going up because of the rate of infection across the country. there's where we're going right now, straight up into the fall surge. and tells you what you need to no know. nearly half the states set records this week in the average for new co-vid infections. 24 states setting records in all the public health experts see in the weeks ahead it will get even worse. look at this map, this explains it to you. if you have a positivity rate, tests coming back positive. high positivity rate means you

have more infections and more cases tomorrow. 24% in iowa. 20 % in kansas. 38% in south dakota. look across here. 18% in nevada. 17% utah. 25% here. 11% pennsylvania. across the country high positivity. more challenges tomorrow. let's bring in our doctors to get they'rics per tees. the dean of the brown university school of public health, and emergency room physician, dr. shaw, i want to go back to the case curve. when 35 states are trending in the wrong direction, two days in a row we've reported more than 80,000 new infections, where are we heading and let me begin with in the middle of this, given the cdc guidelines with at least three cases around the vice president of the united states, should he be on the road or in quarantine? >> good morning, john. let's start with the vice

president. he should be in quarantine. a negative test doesn't get you out of quarantine. and the quarantine is not a nice thing to do if you have the luxury to do it. it is essential to protect other people around him. so he doesn't become a vector for more cases. i think that is really not an area of debate, and no public health expert would say he should be on the road right now. in terms of where we are as a country, we should dispel with one other myth about somehow this is about testing. for two reasons. test positivity is going up. even more concerning, hospitalizations are up. in the last week or so we're seeing deaths climb. always a late indicator. it means we have many weeks of infections built into the system. no way around it. we're going to have a hard few weeks if not a few months ahead. >> as we have this hard few weeks and months ahead, there's another debate about what to do.

we can show you a study that shows the highest mass usage and the states with the lowest. this is not just a public health conversation. those are the highest ones. washington, massachusetts, maryland, delaware, new york. the highest with people using masks. and the midwest and plains and southern states, this has become somehow a political debate and not a public safety debate. dr. anthony fauci says months into this he's reluctant to say so, but he thinks maybe we should consider a national mandate. >> if everyone agrees this is something that's important, and they mandate itted and everybody pulls together and says we're going to mandate it, but let's just do it, i think that would be a great idea to have everybody do it uniformly. if people are not wearing masks, then maybe we should be mandating it. >> should we be? >> well, i wrote a piece going back two months saying we should

have a national mask mandate. you need to combine policy with education. the fact is a mandate serves as step one to tell people that wearing masks out in public is absolutely essential. you have to combine the mandate with education, with access to masks which as we've talked about is not always easy, but for the public you can buy the masks on etsy or amazon. and then with continued reinforcement of the importance of it. masks alone are not going to be enough to get us out of this, but predictions show that if we all wore masks, we could decrease the number of predicted deaths between now and the end of february by 120,000. we could save as many as 120,000 lives if we did have a mask mandate and we all wore masks when we were out in public. >> that number is critical. i hope listen to it at home. whatever their politics. you say how we could prevent 100,000 deaths. i want to show where we are right now. we had the early peak when the novel coronavirus was new and

doctors didn't know what they were dealing with. back up in the summer surge. the case count got higher but the deaths lower than the first peak. now where are we going? 943 on friday. trending up with all those cases what we've been through the pain over the last few months is wait. the question is when you look at the imhe, it says 1700 deaths per day now to reach this number. they project 385,000 by february 1st. a mask wearing would stop this. the question is how can you prevent this from happening and number two, are we learning if you look at this, is the treatment better so the deaths even if hospitalizations go up, even if cases go up, maybe the death rate will not climb as much as those projections suggest. >> yes. so i think treatments are better. my best estimate is that the average person getting infected today, may be 30% to 50% less likely to die than where we were six months ago. that's progress. and -- but that said, there are

two other issues. treatments are not perfect and we know that. 1,000 americans are still dying every day. and second, if you get really sick, spend three weeks in the icu and don't die, thank goodness, but that's a lot of sort of illness and severity and long-term complications people are going to be suffering through. the key policy here is we've got to prevent infections, not just look at the death rate as important as it is. >> doctors, thank you. up next for us, we map out the math to victory, meaning 270 electoral votes. this year the path being shaped by record shattering early voting. >> 80% against trump. as a black voter that there's a job i have to do in order to get a representative to will come close to protecting my people in office -- >> the reason we're here

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heading into the final full week of campaigning joe biden has a lopsided advantage. we have him at 290 electoral votes. deep red solid trump. light red lean trump. joe biden, if nothing changes on the map, the next president of the united states. we'll see what happens in the final week and follow the candidates and the money.

look at the travel. the president is more active. some people question whether he should be with all the rallies but you see the president retracing his 2016 map because at the moment he's losing in many of the states that propelled him to victory four years ago. joe biden two stops in pennsylvania yesterday. we also know since yesterday former vice president will campaign in georgia. that's a tossup state right now. it hasn't gone democratic since in the bill clinton days. that would be a game over win if the democrats could get georgia. that's one thing the former vice president is trying to do. follow the money. spending right now, they're competing in largely the same states. the president spending money in his top five. on defense, those recall states he carried last time. joe biden is trying to change the map. in this final week, one advantage for the democrats, it's not just the polls. it's money in the bank. money in the bank. biden entered the final stretch with a lot more money in his campaign account than the president, 162 million to 44

million. and democratic committee's helping the biden campaign. that money advantage allows biden not only to advertise in all the states he's targeting to try to stretch the map. if you watch the world series, you see this. >> america is a place for everyone. those who chose that country. those who fought for it. some republicans. some democrats. and most just somewhere between. all looking for the same thing. someone who understands their hopes, their dreams, they pain, to listen. >> that financial advantage is a big asset for the democratic campaign in the sense that we all lived through 2016. everybody is reluctant to say look at that advantage, but it is a huge advantage. joe biden can try to stretch the map at a time when trump's menu to get to 270 has fewer options.

>> and through the world series ads, the biden campaign is trying to really reach over to some of the voters in the middle who may be a little anxious about the democratic party but know they do not like the president and his conduct necessarily. in terms of the path, it is still pennsylvania, michigan, and wisconsin, places that if joe biden wins those, it could be game over. they're adding arizona. and going to georgia at the final week of this campaign. that tells you everything you need to know. here in north carolina these 15 electoral votes if joe biden wins here, that also blocks donald trump's path to reelection. so many places. florida also very important. so joe biden has a variety of routes to get to 270. donald trump has a narrow route. that's the 2016 route. it's still open to him, but everything has to go perfectly, and in this year, john, that's something that's a big question.

>> molly, you're right about this. we're haunted by 2016. you write it in a fantastic piece, donald trump's last stand. anything could happen. this is the biggest difference from 2016. all the data seemed to point to a trump loss, the pundits who were seen four years ago have a haunted air. >> we need to be careful but democrats look at the map differently. this is the democratic senator from ohio yesterday. this culture of corruption coupled with trump's betrayal of workers says he win ohio and then michigan, pennsylvania right? ohio with those three is close to electoral college landslide, and it will feel that way. >> that's right. you are starting to hear a little bit of confidence, although it's funny how superstitious the democrats seem to be about this election. you have even people who are

close to the biden team saying they should be happier right now. why aren't they happier with all the advantages they have in and there's a conflicting strategic imperative. after 2016 there was a lot of criticism of the clinton campaign and how it had been handled. one of the criticisms was don't get too ambitious. don't waste time going to arizona and georgia and reach states when you need to be concentrating on the core states, the michigans, wisconsins and pennsylvanias, the feeling among some democrats was that the clinton campaign had taken those for granted too much and should have been more focussed on the core states needed to win, not trying to step -- stretch the map and spread yourself too thin. with the financial advantages that the biden campaign has, they really can do everything they want. they're not going to -- they can advertise in all of those states and still have some left over, and it's a good problem to have. in some ways it's hard to spend that much money.

>> it is. but one of the questions is can they execute? you can have all the money in the world if you don't spend it wisely, if you look at the early voting numbers, they're mind blowing. are democrat using their resources. 57 million plus ballots cast. if you look at north carolina, again, lopsided returns. ballots returned by democrats. it doesn't guarantee all the democrats voted for biden or republicans for trump. one of the questions is are you getting the right people to turn out. people with two jobs or unpredictable hours. senior citizen's whose polling place might not be in their nursing home because of the pandemic. >> you'll be able to go back to life knowing the president is

not going to suggest injecting bleach or retweet serious theories about secret kabuls running the world. we want to have a president who threatens people with jail? for just criticizing him? that's not normal behavior, florida. you wouldn't tolerate it into from a co-worker. you wouldn't tolerate it from a high school principal. you wouldn't tolerate it from a coach. you wouldn't tolerate it from a family member. >> my question is do we see the evidence the democrats not only have an advantage but they're using the surrogates, the money, the data operation to execute given the golden opportunity they have before them? >> yeah. it is definitely a golden opportunity in part because they have been able to bank a large number of votes by what we expect from the polls they've been able to bank a lead at this point. now the question is if they can target the people who have not

voted yet and get them to the polls between now and election day. they're trying strategies and trying to get surrogates out there like former president barack obama, trying to target specific places, parts of florida and central florida. i understand obama will be going back to florida there week. they are trying to target some of the people they believe have not voted yet because they know trump is telling his vote toers vote on election day, and they expect a large surge of voters to turn out on november third and they're going to need to be able to withstand that by building up a big lead and also competing on election day and they're trying to do that with a number of different targeting and data plans, but it's not clear yet whether or not that will be successful. >> fascinating final week ahead. we'll watch this week play out. grateful to all three of you for coming on on this important sunday morning. back to the coronavirus, the fall surge is everywhere. testing the patients and the plans of states that had flattened the curves after that

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states punished in the first coronavirus surge back in the spring, this fall spike is a most unwelcome sequel. let's take a peak. remember, we saw the northeast, new york and up to new england hit early. the case count going back up again. nowhere we were in march and april but starting to trend up. rhode island is an example. you see here way back in april they were up here at the line here, more than 400 cases a day. 524 cases on friday. that's the challenge. how do you keep this from becoming that again? one more point as i want to bring back the doctor. hospitalizations, back in may 1300. more than 1300 rhode islanders in the hospital sometimes. now 140 friday. the doctor with us, an emergency physician and researcher at brown university. you were in the emergency room yesterday. what do you need to do or do you see signs what you have now, how

do you keep it a problem and not a crisis? >> in hospitals across the northeast it feels like we're back in mid april. we feel the numbers going up. we're seeing more sick patients. what we're imploring people is to stay home and wear a mask, not go out in public. we are worried about what is coming in two weeks and four weeks because we know right now weir at the tip of the iceberg. >> tip of the iceberg. what is it like in the emergency room right now? >> you know, it feels a little bit like it was back in mid april. we're seeing increasing numbers of really sick patients coming in. it feels kind of like deja vu. we've been through this movie before. we thought it was done. we anticipated it was probably going to be a bad second surge, but man, we didn't want it here this quickly, and we are so worried for our communities and for our colleagues for how we're going to make it through the fall if it's this bad already. >> doctor, grateful for your

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most of you know i love maps, especially at election time. this is where a week from

tuesday we'll count the 2020 votes and watch whether states turn red or blue. this technology is relatively new. what it helps us keep track of? anything but. >> today it can seem as though we're locked into a binary grid, red states will always be red. blue states will always be blue. and there are just a few swing states that make a difference. it can make people feel like their vote doesn't matter. that nothing will ever change. but history tells us these things do change. these maps represent a story about an american people who cannot be defined by something as simple as a color or a label. we are continually evolving. and often moments of crisis create opportunity, not just for leaders to transend party lines, buts for the american people to are reevaluate what they really

want and who they want to that is digital platform of the filmmaker ken burns who is joining us now. thank you for your time. the point you're making at the end there that big changes. tectonic changes in american politics often happen a time of crisis. a remarkable short film you put together. herbert hoover versus fdr, let's go back. >> the grand old party had dominated the american political landscape the 1920s. in 1928, represent herbert hoover won the general election 444 electoral votes to democrat al smith's 87. in 1932 americans voted to oust

hoover and elect franklin d. roosevelt. the shift in the electoral map represented an american people who were reevaluating the role of government in their lives. >> the end there. re-evaluating the role of government in their lives. ken burns, do you see a similar moment here? we are in this polarized age and people think big statements from the american people. can't happen any more when we are locked into a map that looks like this. do you see in this pandemic an economic fallout a moment like that? >> of course. because i think americans are always willing to shed those labels, those party descriptions in favor of what seems like better leadership and because we have a pandemic that is out of control, it suggests that you have the possibility maybe not for some seismic or tectonic shifts but certainly enough to move the needle one way or

another. this is a conversation about those maps that you love and how they have changed. the herbert hoover in '28 won with african-american support and that is who supported the republican party african-americans. the party of lincoln. the same was in '32. by '36 the same african-americans had begun to understand that the republican party seemed more interested in business and less interested in their daily lives than this democratic party which was, itself, a strange of the solid south and labor in the big cities and some farmers. and so what roosevelt put together is a brand-new coalition that dominated for decades and decades but flipped and rearranged as crises app before ourselves. we have seen in '64, we have seen in 1980 huge seismic shifts in the american tendency, looking for leadership that transcends any kind of party label. >> let's look at some of this a little bit and i like your maps

in the piece by the way. maps are great and i think we can learn from them. you were just talking about this. african-americans voters. the party of lincoln, the president brought it up in the debate and he think he is the best black american since lonely. i don't want to go there. african-americans were with the gop. we go back in time there. blacks have stayed as part of the american democratic party. you see it's a huge giant split now which is ao asset the democratic party. we look for demographic shifts they are small and within the margin. voters who have a college degree. 1992 a generation ago a republican constituency, not by a lot. the trend is now a democratic constituency. now is it more complicated now? you have to do the pieces. the democrats have an advantage now in the suburbs. college educated voters. they have the african-americans and latinos and younger voters moving that way.

. is it more smaller pieces of the puzzle now to put together a big win? >> i think it is to put together a big win. you are describing all of the forces that will contribute to it. i think particularly the demographic changes skewing younger and grants are beginning to threaten things. it's interesting the blue collar workers that used to be a part of the democratic party workers have shifted over and the republican party seemed to be the party of mostly college educated. that has moved to the democratic party. you're getting constant rearrangements of the -- and what is happening on the ground now. what i need? is it health care? is it jobs, is it economy? when you got a perfect storm right now, those questions you're answering resoundingly. >> we will try to answer them and get the answers from the american people in ten days. it may take a little bit to

count them. i want to go back. it's been a long time since we have had big land slides in american presidential politics. this is lyndon johnson in 1964. this is ronald reagan when he swept into power in 1980, wow. go back to barack obama in 2008. our day and age this was a huge win. a huge win. obama won 28 states. flips colorado. flips indiana. flips north carolina and long republican states. we thought this was enormous but 53-46. donald trump eight years later wins 30 states but loses the popular vote. can you have a big win? do you need a big win to break us out of this polarization? >> i think you do. we are in a particularly, as you know, as everyone knows, a divided period. it's not always been that way and it will always be that way.

sometimes we need these benchmark elections to sort of shift the tide. when you see what happens, it's extraordinarily important. remember, we also have lots of other factors that bear on this map like what the voting laws are, the limited registrations, throwing out of ballots and voter suppression. all of these things keep in check what could be a significant majority on one party or the other. then you've got these historical ties that i'm most interested in. the party of lincoln loses the african-american vote and basically swaps it out for the southern vote that was opposed to what the republican party was going to do. by beginning in '64 but, obviously, in the quote southern put in effect in '68 and carried through a completely reversal what the map looked like at one time or another. you can see voters are restless and looking for someplace where someone hears their voice and whether it's feeling that you're

not going to put up with being a flyover state any more or you really need somebody to address this specific problem, whatever it is voters are respond to go that need and particularly in a crisis i think we are seeing that shift taking place. >> in ten days we will know. big change, small change, no change at all, we will count the votes on this map. thank you, ken burns, for your time. >> thank you, john. that's it for us on "inside politics. we are here during the week. join us. a busy "state of the union" is coming up next with jake tapper. here is a look at his guests. my husband and i started trying to have a baby right after our wedding. when we couldn't get pregnant, we started ivf. our story is special because its ours. but it isn't unique. if amy coney barrett is appointed, i am scared.

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