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sounds like he's absorbing that he's behind and he's trying to catch up, which is a position, of course, he hates to admit to himself and losing is something that, you know, he doesn't ever want to acknowledge, but i think that's what we're seeing right now, is a candidate who is trying to broaden a map that looks very narrow for him. so that's why he's in a state like arizona, in a state like nevada. we've had polls that have just come out in nevada that show him behind, so i do think this is something that is kind of sinking in with the president, as joe biden is expanding his map, the president has to go back to these places to be where he was four years ago. >> gloria, just stand by for me. i want to bring in jeremy diamond to this conversation. he is at this event in arizona, awaiting the president.
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how essential is arizona to the president's path to the white house, jeremy? >> reporter: it's an extremely important state for the president. this is a state the president won by four points in 2016. in fact the democratic presidential candidate hasn't won this state since bill clinton in 1996. the cnn polling average shows that joe biden is ahead by about four points here in the state of arizona. that's about the same amount that president trump was ahead by in the polls before the 2016 election here in this state. so what you're going to see from the president, he's going to stop where we are in bullhead city. this is a ruby red county where the president will be focused on driving up turnout among his base. you already have thousands who are here, most of them from arizona, some as well from neighboring nevada, because we are on the arizona/nevada
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border, and he's going to head to maricopa county to a suburb of phoenix. you'll perhaps hearing a different message or the same message, but he will be focused on the suburban voters when he's in goodyear, arizona later today. it's a graphic that president trump won in 2016 and now is struggling with them, because they've been turned off by the kind of behavior from this president over the last 3 1/2, nearly 4 years now. brianna? >> jeremy, thank you so much for that report. i want to go to delaware where former vice president biden is keeping the focus on the pandemic. he's laying out a plan. jessica dean is following him
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for us. >> reporter: it's interesting, seeing jeremy at that rally, with all of those people jammed in together, comparing that to what we saw from joe biden today, where he got this briefing, socially distanced, doing it digitally, not everybody in the same room, bud getting a briefing from all of these experts on the covid crisis, and giving a briefing on that, it tells you how important the campaign and joe biden see this issue and how clear of a contrast they want to draw. his message today essential, and he set this verbatim, enough, it's time for a china. he wechblt right after president trump and his handling of the pandemic. take a listen. >> we could afford four years of another president who attacks doctors, claiming they're over-reporting cases, because they want to make more money. we can't afford four more years
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of a president who wants to strip people of health care than bothering once to put forward a health care plan of his own. we can't afford four more years of president trump. >> reporter: he also says he has a plan to attack this virus and get it under control. he acknowledged it's not something they'll be able to do overnight, but they have a plan and will work to enact it in he's elected, on day one. jessica dean, thank you. the closing argument of each campaign is on full display. which states they're visiting, which voters they want to target. i want to invite in david chalian to discuss this with me. president trump is in arizona today. >> with camera hairs also doing two events in arizona today.
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you heard jeremy's report there. it is a real battleground state there, and one, by the way, that both sides are fighting over. for democrats it's a decade-long project of trying to flip that reliably red state blue. it only went to bill clinton in a long time. and hopefully they're counting on the present as well, and donald trump cleanly understands those 11 electoral votes are critical. also note, when you put up that map, pence's schedule seems to just follow trump a day later. like he does cleanup. yesterday president trump was in wisconsin and michigan, and right now vice president pence is there. a couple days ago president trump was in pennsylvania, mike pence comes in behind.
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so they seem to be following each other as an amplification tool. watch those great lakes, michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania you'll see more activity in those three states than anywhere else. >> joe biden will be in florida tomorrow. president obama was there yesterday. how is florida looking now? >> it's a real tossup state. it's the biggest electoral prize in the world of the battleground unless you think texas is a real toss-up state. here's the thing -- joe biden's path to 270 is not reliant upon florida. donald trump's path to reelection is very much reliant on florida. i've played with the map. you can get the president to 270
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electoral votes if everything goes his way except florida, but it is not easy. he would have to really upend some of the trends we're seeing in that region right now. >> let's listen back in to president trump in nevada. >> what i'm witnessing is terrible and frankly the mayor or whoever it is that's allowing people to riot and loot and not stop them is also just a horrible thing. i saw the event. everybody did. it was on television. it was a terrible event. i guess that's being looked at very strongly. we have the federal government looking at it also, but the rioting in philadelphia, they have to stop it. it's a local thing. as you know, we don't send unless we're asked. if they asked for help, we will be there quickly.
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they should bring in their national guard ifs police need help. you can't let that go on. again, a democrat-run state, a democrat-run city. we don't have that. the republicans don't have it. you'll have more and more of that, and you're going to have it, and have it strongly. you can't let that happen. [ inaudible question ] >> we're looking at the shooting, yes. and if asked to go in and help, with he will do that. as you know, we have to be asked. they should be able to handle it. i think the police in philadelphia -- i'm told they were told to stand back, don't do anything. people are breaking into stores and walking out with washing machines, walking out with all sorts of things. it shouldn't be allowed. that's no way to do it. you've got to have law and order. you've got to have respect for our police. the police were told to stand back.
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now maybe that's not so, but that's what i was told on very good authority. you can't allow that to happen. we're watching it very closely and we're waiting for a call. if they want help, we would be ready to go within an hour. >> reporter: former vice president has condemned the rioting, but he's also saying if he's elected president, that you will push for a commission to look into how you go about diminishing these types of situation, with mental health situations, crises. can you give a response to that? >> yeah. sure. sure. the former vice president has been doing this for 4 years, doing it badly. this is a group that he supports. he doesn't want to condemn them. i saw that. he doesn't want to condemn them. you have to condemn, you have to be strong. you can't have chaos like that. he'll be very, very weak.
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he hasn't gotten, to the best of my knowledge, any endorsements -- or certainly if he has, it's very few. i've gotten almost every law enforcement endorsement in the nation -- texas, florida, louisiana, oklahoma, ohio. almost everyone in the nation. we might have even gotten pennsylvania, which is great, about but they have to ability to do something about it. joe is all talk and no action. you can't let that happen. i went to school in that city. i love the city of philadelphia. you can't let that happen to a wonderful place like philadelphia. you can't let it happen. well, i'm going to see you in arizona. thank you very much, everybody. [ inaudible question ] all right. i have to bring in gloria and david. there's a lot to fact check there, but the first is where he says joe biden isn't condemning
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the violence. we literally just in the last hour had joe biden on condemning the violence. he said there's no excuse for looting or violence, and expressed support for protests. it was the thing he led with, there was no scoots for looting and violence, and he echoed the words of walter wallace's fare, who said you shouldn't be doing this, you're not helping walter. he said he's gotten the endorsement of police officers. you had black police officers and firefighters in philadelphia who were actually protesting the fact that their unions endorsed donald trump. that's an important part of this he will never mention. first of all, this is the president trying to make his point that he's the so-called law and order president, and if it were up to joe biden, he
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doesn't want to condemn them. i'm not quite sure who that means, he said you have to be strong, and he is strong and biden is weak. let's just point out this is a homicide investigation. nobody's going to call in anybody donald trump would like to call in right now. this is a homicide investigation. it is not time to ramp up any kind of violence, and i think that is what joe biden was trying to do. i think the president, you joe, it's obvious. he was trying to use this as another wedge to bring badge thinks law-and-order campaign and gives him an opportunity to talk about something other than covid. >> and it's not working. since june 1st, we have seen him ever since he went into lafayette square in washington, d.c., this law-and-order
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attempt, this idea to try and paint joe biden as the champion of law where isness isn't working with the american public. when you ask mold do better on crime and safety issues, you see joe biden actually scores better than donald trump on that. who can keep americans safe from harms? that's not donald trump et cetera -- donald trump's strength in the polls. we saw the convention try to turn away from coronavirus and covid, into a long ordered campaign and the american people weren't buying it. it seems to me he's dipping into a well in the final daze ys to e this campaign about something it isn't about. >> i do want to play real quick what we heard the former vice president say. this is what joe biden just said minutes ago.
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>> there is no excuse whatsoever for the looting and the violence, none whatsoever. i think to be able to protest is totally legitimate, totally reasonable, but i think thatthe loot i looting is, as the victim's father said, do not do this, you're not helping, you're hurting, you're not helping my son. >> okay. so he's making it very clear there. >> clear. >> he also dodged a very important question. he was asked about mental health. i think he need to briefly touch on that before we talked more broadly about the election. he was asked about mentality health. in this particular case you had a situation where the family said they were dealing with a mental health issue, they were dealing with an ambulance, and police arrived first. they feel like that was not
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ideal to deal with the situation that walter wallace jr. was in. of course there's a lot of upset over what happened i do want to pivot and talk broadly about this election, and it's a race to 270 electoral votes. there's a lot of democrats expressing nerves last week after what they saw happened in 2016, which was a huge surprise. >> no doubt about it. i don't think you can find a political reporter that has had conversations with democrats -- >> just yesterday. >> they're really worried. it's like post-traumatic stress in some ways from some of these democrats who just believe donald trump has some trick to pull out of the hat. can he still win this race? yeah, he can. he's going to need to drive an incredibly huge turnout on election day with his base
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voters to accomplish that, but that is something that could conceivably happen. it's not going tote stop scattered democrats from 2016 from being worried until they actually see every vote counted. >> you know, brianna, i was just talking to one of those scarred democra democrats yesterday who counts votes in florida, and doing it way back in 2000 during bush/gore, and every night he can't sleep. he's looking at turnout, trying to extrapolate what that means, what that means in certain counties, what he as going to look for on election night. he's been disappointed so many times. this person assured me he thought hillary clinton was going to win florida, and he's been eating his words ever since. he is nervous and democrats are
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nervous, and they know what the map looks like, but it ain't over until it's over. >> i was in javits following the hillary clinton campaign. i remember that moment when it was clear that florida had gone to trump. i've never seen anything like it, right? i think a lot of people are realizing they can't always predict what is going to happen. we'll see what happens next week. david, gloria, thank you. there's another focus of the biden campaign. it's president trump's handling of the pained. biden and his supporters are labeling the trump response as an abject failure. the white house is touting it as a success. it's listing a highlight of the trump administration as ending the covid pandemic, because the covid-19 pandemic is, of course, in full swing. they say the administrative a.
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has taken decisive actions to understand, treat and defeat the disease. this has touch you personally and of course professionally. the white house office of science and technology policy says that report was poorly worded. what do you say to that when it essential is saying up is down. we know we're in the middle of this still. >> brianna, what can you say to that? it's the latest in a laundry list of flat-out lies. i agree this is an absect failure of bad leadership and bad governance of the white house and the president in particular. that i reports, afronts have been just unethical. when you have people praying that their families don't get sick, don't lose loved one, we
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have 226,000. i lost my father, as you said. we had over 500,000 cases in the past seven days. coronavirus is tracking to be the third leading cause of death in 2020 alone. there's no place for this level of lies and lack of empty think. >> you know, doctor, we see each other a bit. i can sense a level of frustration coming from you. i know it is different to watch what is a failed response, the response could be much better, but this one seems to kind of bug you more, this saying that they have rounded -- they're done with coronavirus. >> how do you declare victory in something we have over 40 states where the virus is out of control, and how do you declare victory when just someone from the white house over this past
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weekend said, yes, it is out of control. it's either out of control or victorious. we in the public health community, we're fed up and frustrated. we're note going to stand by silently. we're going to continue to sound the alarm, continue to get the message out to the merge people what you need to do to keep yourself safe. you have frontline workers in hospitals across the united states doing their best to keep people healthy and keep people alive. look what's happening in wisconsin, in texas, utah, look what's happening in my own state of new jersey, where we had flattened the curve and now we're starting to see coronavirus cases creep up. you see the stay-at-home orders coming back, nonessential businesses closing early. no, i don't have any tolerance for anyone in leadership saying anything other than what's the truth. the truth is informed by science
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and facts alone, not by political opinions. >> we know you're working to make sure your father's death was not in vain, and we appreciate you coming on to talk with us about it. doctor pernell, thank you. >> thank you. we're live across the country. we're going to take you to three ballo battleground states, and new tapes from chris woodward, and we heard from jared kushner about how the white house was handling the early days of the coronavirus pandemic.
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whether it's been by mail or in person, more than 73 million have already tested. we begin in north carolina with our cnn national correspondent dianne gallagher. dianne? >> reporter: more than 3.6 mill i don't think carolinians have already cast their ballots, more than 50% of all the registered voters in the state. to give it more perspective, more than 75% of all the votes cast in 2016 for the general election, they've already been cast here in 2020, with six days to go before election day. most voters are early in-person voting, they can register and vote on the same day during this period. the rest of the voters, more
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than 800,000 mail-in ballots have already been accepted. they want to, by law, be post marked by election, but the other big story in north carolina, the courts -- currently the deadline for when the ballots can be accepted has been appealed to the supreme court, not once, but twice. so they're waiting to find out if north carolina if a postmarked election day ballot can be received by november 6th or november 12th for it to count. >> i'm sara murray in philadelphia, and the race is on. ivanka trump was here today stumping for her father. a lot of people here have already gotten the jump on things. more than 3 million voters in pennsylvania have done that. officials say do not wait to turn the ballots in. turn them in now, turn them in as soon as you can.
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officials here are also warning this is going to take a while. this is the first time pennsylvania has allowed this many people to vote by mail. we probably won't know, unless it's a major blowout. it could take a couple days. officials are saying do not worry, they'll keep counting the votes until we know who won this critical battleground state. >> i'm bill weir in madison, wisconsin, where the line for a free covid-19 test goes out the door and several hundred cars long. this case is setting records. 64 people lost their lives worted yesterday. what they're really worried about is hospital capacity. the intensive care units in america's dairy land at 87% company, emergency hospital already set up on the state fairgrounds. all of this is directly affecting the election. most people in this line have
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already voted since the supreme court decided that the mail-in absentee ballots have to show up by election day. that puts the pressure on get out the vote efforts, to get seniors especially out in the cold to a dropbox where they don't trust the mail. meanwhile, the polls show that vice president joe biden with a lead between 8 and 17 points? >> thank you, guys, for being the eyes and ears on the ground for us. there is new audio obtained, providing insight to the handling of the pandemic early on, back in april. at that point 40,000 americans had died of the virus. jared kushner was bragging about the president's response. >> the last thing was kind of -- the guidelines, which was interesting. that in my mind was almost like
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trump getting the country back from the doctors, right? in the sense what he now did was, you know, he's going to -- there were three phases . all right. that was part of an interview with bob woodward for his best-selling book "rage." jamie, i know you have more clips to share, but let's start with what we just heard. that statement by jared kushner in april ages very poorly. >> it certainly does. it shows a disregard, a callous disregard for the american public, their health. a negotiated settlement? that sounds as if they saw the
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doctors as adversaries. it really just underscores this was about a political strategy. they had one concern -- election day. once again, a failure of leadership, a betrayal of trust. if you look at the number of deaths on april 18th, more than 40,000 americans had died. we were at the height of it. in between april 18th and today, we have lost another 185,000 americans. that was the cost of this policy, brianna. >> it's like a focus on points to be won, not on the lives that could be saved or were being lost. kushner also had some choice words for former top white house officials. tell us about that. >> so, for the past four years, this is not a surprise, we have
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seen president trump call people names and blame the people around him. what we hear in this interview is jared kushner echos those sentiments, but listen carefully to how he describes the people who are now at the white house. >> yeah, there are two things that strike me. he had to have other people around to balance the
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overconfident people, but the other thing, those words about senior staff who are there now know their place. it's clear that, you know, whether it's administration officials or doctors, health experts, president trump wants to be the one who's in charge. >> but he's also described -- he's almost infantalizing the president, that he's controlled by whoever is swaying him at the moment and there needs to be people around him to push him in the right direction. in the interview kushner also expressed contempt for the republican party. tell us about this. >> i can't imagine this is going to sit well with lifelong republicans. i don't think it is a surprise, but hearing jared kushner say this is pretty stark. he is dismissive of the party. he is dismissive of the republican platform, and listen
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to this. he credits his father-in-law with a hostile takeover. >> the attitude, brianna. >> i think that part is actually true, that it might not be about the issues -- it is about the issues, but it's certainly about the attitude. i think that's a very good observation there. some of the other stuff i don't think so. tell us about -- you have another clip. this is actually -- this is a
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new one of trump talking about jared kushner. >> so this is new audio of president trump we have not heard before, but i think it's important, because the president may not be happy that these comments from jared kushner are being made public right before the election, but when you hear what president trump says to woodward, he's going to have a hard time divorcing himself from that. here's what trump told woodward about his son-in-law.
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>> one smart cookie, brianna, but this is just not the kind of thing that the white house wants out there, because he very specifically says that the president wanted to sideline the doctors. brianna? >> yeah, illuminating sound that you've got there, jamie. thank you so much for sharing it with us. >> my pleasure. i want to get a medical perspective. i'm joined by professor of medicine at george washington university, dr. jonathan reiner. as you here that, doctor, when you hear jared kushner say trump is back in charge, not the doctors. that was back in april. >> it makes my blood boil, brianna.
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i think that was taped on april 18th. we had over 700,000 cases. since then we've had millions more cases. that was when the states were opening up against cdc guidelines just simply incompetent or malfeasance, that the president intentionally -- and this is why, over the ensuing weeks and months we saw less and less of people like tony fauci and deborah birx and robert redfield. their strategy was to bury them and proceed with opening the states for the president's own political reasons. it makes me really, really angry. to that point, i think what this -- i want to jamie that
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these pieces of tape are so illuminating, because you realize that they're rebuffing doctors who were valuing public health, and they were valuing human lives. when you listen to the tape of jared kushner there, you do not get the sense that that is what he's valuing. >> not at all. i wrote it down -- if you're preparing for a worst-case scenario, it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy. no, no, that's wrong. in medicine, we always prepare for the worst-case scenario, in case it happening. they're preparing for the worst-case scenario, so because they weren't preparing for the worst-case scenario, we're still reusing ppe. because they didn't want to
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prepare for the worst-case scenario, because it will look back or discourage economic growth, we don't have enough testing. because they wanted to open up and put the president in charge. we've had 185,000 more deaths. that's what's happening. >> it's staggering. doctor, thank you for being with us. >> my pleasure. thank you. next, the president tells suburban women we're getting your husbands back to work. we'll roll the tape why that view is pretty outdated.
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nostalgia, most everyone loves it but doesn't live it. in a tone-deaf pleads to suburban women yesterday, president trump said this. >> i'm getting your kids back to school. getting your kids back to school. i'm also getting your husbands', they want to get back to work, right? we're getting your husbands back to work. >> he seems to miss that decades ago women joined the workforce en masse. now they actually account for the majority of it. the current recession is hurting them move than men.
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layoffs happening in sections of the economy where women are disproportionately represented. and women are reporting that the burden of the pandemic is falling more on working moms. this is hardly the first time the president thinking of women waiting at home for their hurtses to return from their bread-winning careers. he refers to women who lives there as housewives. even from his interviews in it is '90s, his outdated view was clear. >> i think putting a wife to work is a very dangerous thing. >> i have days where i come home and -- i don't want to sound too much like a chauvinist, but when i come home and dinner is not ready, i go through the roof. >> when asked more recently about mike pompeo over accusations he had staffers
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perform personal chores, here is what trump said. >> look, he's a high-quality person, mike, he's a very brilliant guy, and now i have you telling me about dog walking, washing dishes, and you know what? i would rather have him on the phone with some world leader than have him wash dishes because maybe his wife isn't there or his kids, you know. >> saying a man should never wash a dirt when a woman is around to do it fell out of vogue long ago. back in may when the president was still have been briefings, he signaled out two cbs reporters. he told "new york post," it wasn't donna reed, i can tell you that. paula reed, she's sitting there and i say how angry? what's the purpose? they're not even tough questions, but you see the attitude of these people, it's like incredible.
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donna reed, the good wife from "it's a wonderful life." and the housewife from herself titled 1950s sitcom. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> her husband on the show was a doctor. she managed the housework and getting dinner on the table. two kids. they were white. life was practically perfect if you ignore the injustice happening outside their suburban neighborhood. as they say, ignorance is bliss. the president certainly seems to think so. it's penchant for the black-and-white era also includes movies. "parasite" won the best picture
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at the oscars this year. >> what the hell was that all about? we have enough problems with south korea, with trade. on top of it, they gave them best movie of the year? was it good? i don't know. let's get like "gone with the wind" back, please? "sunset boulevard"? so many great movies. >> "gone with the wind" which romanticizes slavery in the a i antebellum south, and even scarlet o'hara got a job managing a business. last year when pete buttigieg was running for president, he said alfred e newman cannot be president. buttigieg said he had to google
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it. recently trump also took a jab at dr. anthony fauci sea he gets more airtime than bob hope. bob hope, who died in 2003, is an icon, no doubt, but he was in his 50s in the 1950s. it's not just trump, but the folks he surrounded himself with. listen to his former campaign chairman, later convicted and sent to prison. here's paul manafort trying to explain why women voters for phlox to president trump. >> many women believe their husbands can't afford to pay for the family bills. >> you know what you said, women are concerned about their husbands' income. >> i can speak personally to that. >> is that the big concern? >> because they can't afford their lives anymore. that's the point. >> the president's 1950s world view extends far bedownthe
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household. he once cited the '40s and '50s at a time when we were not pushed around, respected by everybody. we had just won a war, pretty much doing what we had to do. he also talks as if teal and coal are the future of the u.s. economy. in fact, he denies systemic racism exists. he touts confederate symbols. his version of exercise is golfing with a cart. he hearkens back to a sitcom set in the '60s, and he waxes nostalgic for the highway featured in malt shops and the grapes of wrath. >> for many decades, route 66 captured the american spirit. the communities along this historic route were a vivid symbol of america's booming industry. >> but as the eagles once said,
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it meant so much to nellie, maybe it could mean as much to you... call now and get your free infokit another coronavirus record has just been set. more than half a million americans testing positive in the past week alone. the u.s. is now averaging nearly 72,000 cases a day. there are 40 states that are seeing a rise in cases. you can look here. see all that orange and red on this map? that is not good. and take a look at this. there are deaths that are rising in 27 states. authorities are reporting 985 new deaths. the nationwide death toll has
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now surpassed 227,000 americans lost to this virus. many hospitals across the country are overwhelmed with the spikes they're seeing in coronavirus patients. that includes in utah where officials are warning if these hospitalization numbers don't turn around soon, some of their hospitals may have to start rationing health care. i want to bring in dr. edward stenium. he is an infectious disease specialist at intermountain health care. doctor, thank you for taking the time to be with you. you're very much on front lines of salt lake city treating patients. what are you experiencing with this surge? what is it like in the hospitals? >> yeah, right now we are seeing increasing hospitalizations throughout our entire system. our system spans the entire state of utah. and what we're seeing is cases in the hospital are going up all throughout utah from the southern end to the northern end. our hospitals are getting quite full, both on the medical units and also in intensive care units. >> and so as you're seeing case
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numbers on the rise in utah, do you worry that you could be or hospitals could be facing rationing care, deciding which patients have the best prognosis to take up resources to be in the icu? >> yeah, we definitely are worried about cases continuing to rise. as we know, hospitalizations typically lag 7 to 10 days from cases that are reported to the state. so we anticipate our hospitalization numbers will continue to rise over the next couple weeks, and that's assuming something changes in the community. and what we're doing with intermountain health care, we're really trying to accommodate that surge in being able to bring in our patients and spread them throughout our system so they have beds available for them. for us, it's -- the beds aren't the issue. we can develop beds and locations for them, but what we worry most about are our caregivers. they're exhausted, they're fatigued, we've been at this for seven to eight months, and now
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we're adding more cases to them, and it's really going to be a limitation of resources at our caregiver level. >> so it's the staff more than the beds. i think a lot of us struggle to even imagine what's going on until we hear it from people like you, because this is all happening behind closed doors at hospitals. tell us more about the exhaustion. tell us the conditions and the hours that folks are working at as they're also trying not to contract covid themselves. what are they dealing with? >> right. as you can imagine, we have icu physicians and nurses and staff and also our hospital-based staff taking care of these patients day in, day out, suffering with these patients. and they're tired and they're fatigued. as our cases rise, we're going to be continuing to ask more of them. longer shifts, more shifts, less breaks. quite frankly, if we continue to add patients, we're not going to have enough icu doctors, icu nurses or trained medical staff
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on our floors to really care for them, and so then we're going to have to really shift our model of care where we're going to have icu doctors potentially supervising doctors that not necessarily have been trained in the icu but are going to be caring for patients in the icu. so it's really going to be a change in the model, and it's not how we would like to care for patients here with us. >> look, the good news is that people can do some simple things. can you tell us what you're asking members of your community and people across the country to do to try to ensure that staff members aren't overwhelmed? >> right. i mean, at this point in utah, we're seeing a very significant spike in cases, and we need to do something now at a community and state level that's aggressive and that's bold that will actually change the tide of this infection that we're seeing here in the state of utah. in my opinion, that action needs to be a temporary pause. we need to really be thinking hard about shutting down
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restaurants in congregate settings and really minimizing any kind of group activity. it's really going to be something like that that will really make an impact on our community-based cases. right now we're continuing to call on the community to always wear a mask and be 100% compliant with mask use, but also really minimize your close contacts. now is the time to not congregate with your friends and your family, and that's a hard sell as we go into the holiday season. >> it certainly is hard, dr. stenehjem. our continued coverage will continue now with jake tapper. welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. we begin today with the 2020 lead. six days until election day in the united states. this hour president trump will kick off his first of two rallies in the pivotal state of arizona. these are events that health officials call reckless given the number of new coronavirus cases reaching new records in ece u.s. and, of course,
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