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♪ ♪ heart monitors that let your doctor watch over you, just like you watch over your best friend. another life-changing technology from abbott, so you don't wait for life. you live it. hello, everybody. i'm john king in washington, thank you for sharing a very busy news day with us. five days until america chooses its next president, both president and the nominee joe
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biden making pitches in florida. senator kamala harris here in washington. nearly 79 million early votes have been cast so far. 79 million. that is an enormous number. the 2016 experience colors how democrats see everything so they remain nervous in the final days. the polls however, beyond clear. the president is losing and there is little evidence of any momentum as he tries now to rally his way to another dramatic comeback. there is something for the president to crow about today. the u.s. economy grew at the fastest rate on record last quarter, 33%. but just about every statistic is warped because of the coronavirus disruption, even that growth does not make the u.s. economy hole. and there's worry climbing coronavirus numbers will bring more economic pain. no states are pushing down their coronavirus numbers. 41 states of the 50 recorded more cases this week compared to
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last week. 41. the united states added just under 79,000 new cases on wednesday. that ranks as the third worst day of the entire pandemic in terms of cases. look at the list there. four of the most painful coronavirus days, four of the most painful days have come in the last week. one expert says get ready and bets 100,000 cases per day by december. another says we could pass 100,000 in a single day this week. the president tells every rally we are around the turn. the experts tell us the truth. >> if things do not change, shep, if they continue on the course we're on, there's going to be a whole lot of pain. we're going to be in much worse shape a month from now. >> as i noted a busy day on the campaign trail. this is the 2020 map. five nights from now we start to fill this in. we get to see who you choose as the next president. let's go back to 2016 to reflect on today and how it tells us how
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much this campaign is unlike the last campaign. president and joe biden in florida, president moves to north carolina, the president in iowa. they are trump red from 2016. let's switch maps because we have a different campaign this time around. we come to our race to 270 not only do we have joe biden across the finish line at 290 votes. florida, north carolina and iowa, trump red four years ago, now they lean towards biden. joe biden is competitive or leading in all of them. it doesn't mean he'll win all of them, but the map is tilting his way. he has more options to get to 270. if nothing else changed we believe he's there. a reflection here of how this is so different. watch me pull this up and bring this up on the screen. let's pop this up, you look at the polls right now.
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joe biden a ten point lead in national polls. joe biden leading in florida, narrow but leading. president trump well below his 2016 numbers in all of these statements. joe biden leads in many michigan, in north carolina, in pennsylvania, in wisconsin. that doesn't rule out a trump comeback but it tells you the map is tilted his way. when you're looking at the map, the president has to have florida. there's no way the president can start a comeback without those 28 votes from florida. he needs north carolina as well. that's where he will be today. he's trying to get back into play, even if he picked up those two, joe biden can win the presidency without florida, without north carolina, without ohio. that's why he has the money edge in the final days, he has the map edge in the final days. as they come back it's about turn out. new ads aiming at latino voters. >> nearly three years after trump's order, over 500 children are still not back with their parents. on his first day as president,
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joe biden will issue an executive order creating a federal task force to reunite these children with their parents. >> america will never be a socialist country. >> i'm donald trump and i approve this message. >> joining our conversation, laura i want to start with you. you look at the advertisements now it's all about turn out and in some states latino votes will be critical. in many states you think of florida, arizona and nevada but also a swing constituency could be a state like pennsylvania, virginia. you wrote about this that some democrats are nervous. here's what you wrote, some democrats say there's still cause for concern, latino voters in philadelphia are returning mail-in ballots at slower rates on than other democrats. outreach to this group came too late. how worried are democrats, especially in this environment
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where people requested the ballots and the challenge is to get them back. >> when i was in pennsylvania, a lot of the voters that i spoke to, the democratic voters that i spoke to were wary of placing their ballot in the actual mail. they wanted to go drop them off. and some were even considering, you know, voiding their absentee ballot and going in person because they were concerned about what they were hearing about the process. democrats, you know, there are local democrats that are concerned. i think a lot of that comes down to worries, as you said, john, earli earlier, about the ghosts of 2016 and if numbers aren't at the certain level they would like them to be at with latino voters for joe biden, if he isn't able to offset with enough white voters does that mean he loses pennsylvania and latinos have been a growing population in that state for some time. so higher turn out with that group would boost him.
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because despite president trump's attempt to win over some latinos at the margin, joe biden would win the majority of lat o latinos in a state like pennsylvania. but we're not seeing any real increase in support from that demographic from the president. so for biden it's about making sure the latinos, who are primarily puerto rican come out and vote for him. democrats have 2016 ptsd, so they're nervous, they sometimes can't believe what they see when they read the polls because the polls were wrong in 2016. but the president sounds like he understands the steepness of the hill when you listen to him campaign. listen. >> sleepy joe has betrayed pennsylvania. how can you vote for this guy? congressman, how do you vote for this guy? if i lose, i will have lost to the worst candidate, the worst
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candidate in the history of presidential politics. if i lose, what do i do? >> you write about this because it is a snapshot in the president's mindset in these final days. his unscripted remarks bemoaning a loss and explaining why he might suffer one. as he barnstorms the country to keep himself from becoming the one thing he sodespises, a loser. >> that's right. we've been listening to the campaign rallies for the last several weeks, multiple a day. and every once in a while he goes off script and says wow how can i lose to joe biden. it does offer a window into the president's mindset as he's constantly thinking about the idea that he could be a one-term president. we've heard from aides who say that's something that really bothers the president.
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the fact he could go down in history as one of the few one-term presidents in if modern history. and that's not something he's looking at positively. he's looking at it as a major fear and one of the reasons he's campaigning so feverishly. even as he talks about how he believes he's up big and the polls are wrong and false and suppression polls, he has similar numbers to show that he has an uphill climb to 270 votes, he's trying to do what he did in 2016 and win in places where the polls show him behind. but the fact that he is constantly talking about losing and constantly talking about how horrible it would be to lose to joe biden shows that he knows the hill is very steep and he has very few days to try to close the gap. >> and so we're at this fascinating moment in the final days of any campaign, you see laura, you see the biden campaign using the financial advantage, digital ads targeting young people.
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but the biden campaign is to focus on the big picture which is spiking as we head into the election season. joe biden was off the campaign trail yesterday but in delaware he made a point, a briefing with public health experts and a speech that he stared down and mocked the president's pandemic response but then offered a fairly sober assessment. listen. >> i'm not running on the false promise of being able to end the pandemic by flipping a switch. what i can promise you is this, we will start, on day one, doing the right things. we'll let science drive our decisions. >> it's crystal clear, and you get it, number one it's the number one issue in the country all year, but especially giving the horrible state of play right now, the rising case count, joe biden began and wants to close on this. >> yeah. he really wants to focus on coronavirus, john. even in a state like arizona which i've been in the past week
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and a lot of the people i talked to there, some of the pollsters that ran focus group with older voters found the one thing that helped trump was the economy but as soon as you started talking about the coronavirus that was his achille's heel, that's why biden is hammering so hard in a state like arizona which is also one of the states that trump really needs to win if he's going to pull off this re-election. and in arizona, biden is outspending the president twofold. it's -- phoenix is his number one media market for the past six weeks leading up to the final election day. so, again, even though biden may be in delaware and isn't traveling as much as president trump because of that cash advantage that you mentioned, he's able to really be front of mind for voters in a state like arizona with those tv ads. >> and he has. the president has defied the laws of politics and gravity in the past. i want to show you a number, i
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look every day under every rock is there a data point you can say trump could build from this. look at this here. the dates tell you what you need to know, october 1984, reagan, 74% felt good. reagan won in a landslide. 1996, bill clinton, 67% feel good, he won comfortably. george push in 2004, obama in 2012. donald trump is just above carter and bush, that's a tough place to be. you're in the middle of a pandemic but people also don't feel great about the economic prospects. it's hard to navigate that mood if you're an incumbent. >> the pandemic came in the early part of the year and it has not gotten better and it's getting worse. we're seeing the worst stage of this right before the election, so it makes it hard for the president to campaign and say
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give me four more years when we've seen the pandemic surge across the country, we have seen the president put across disjointed messaging about whether people should wear masks, holding these superspreader rallies. it's helping him with his base and driving up enthusiasm but when it comes to moderate voters he needs to pull to his side, that's repelling them and he gets low marks for his handling of the pandemic. even though he has gotten high marks for the handling of the economy, those marks are slipping as well. we saw the stock market drop significantly and there's concern ahead of the election that things may not be as solid on the economy as the president would like people to think they are. and that may be one reason why the numbers predict that he is likely to be a one-term president. we don't know what's going to happen in a few days on election day but it's clear he faces that uphill battle and he is struggling to try to close the gap with a few days to go.
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>> smart to say we don't know but the head winds are strong. grateful for the reporting and insights as we head into the final stretch. the latest claim of jobless claims falling, going in the right direction but the recovery is fragile. christine romans takes a closer look. >> the american economy grew at a record rate last quarter but the condoleezza ririsis is far . the u.s. economy, over the summer started bouncing back and the relief money was flowing it fuelled consumer spending. but this number is a rebound from a record economic collapse in the second quarter. we are still not back to pre-pandemic levels. also, the data is stale. it's a look back. right now coronavirus cases are surging, there's no federal
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stimulus as a shock absorber this time. industries like travel and hospitality are struggling, women are leaving the workforce in droves and the u.s. has only added back about half of the jobs lost during the pandemic. in fact, in terms of jobs another 751,000 americans filed for first time jobless claims last week. economists are growing more concerned that the rebound won't continue in the final three months of the year. john? >> christine romans, grateful for the insights there. up next, cases spiking in more than 40 states. hospitalizations hitting record levels across the u.s. a campaign flashback from the 1996 election. >> every day for four years i have gotten up and gone into that oval office and tried to do something that would help to create more opportunity, to insist upon more responsibility and to bring us closer together in an american community.
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see for yourself, at carvana.com. the coronavirus right now surging in ways that alarm public health experts who worry about exponential growth when the case count gets this high and the calendar forces more people indoors. look at this map, it's sad and stunning. 41 of the 50 states trending in the wrong direction. zero states reporting fewer infections now from a week ago. the country averaging more than 74,000 new infections a day. hospitalizations also soaring. many states reporting new record
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highs. joining us is dr. craig spencer. dr. spencer thank you for being with us. when you just see these record days, record days, record days, four of the top five days in the past week, how much do you worry about exponential growth once you're if in the 70s and then you're in the 80s and then we hit 100. then what? >> i think that is likely in the next coming weeks. the retort we're going to hear is because we're doing more t t testing. it's true testing has gone up by 14% but new cases have gone up by 60%. so it's not just testing. it's more virus. if you remember march and april, the virus was in the northeast and then the sun belt and florida and a couple other places, but it's rolling around the country. only three states have fewer
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people in the hospital now than the beginning of the month. and the highest per capita rates are in north dakota, south dakota, wisconsin, and wyoming. so i'm concerned we're going to see more hospitalizations and then inevitably more deaths. >> months ago we would be having a conversation about the northeast, which came first, including where you are in new york city and the northeast has done a remarkable job of pushing down the curve. we have the positivity rate in new york still below 2% right now. but you see the line trickling up just a little bit. you're looking around the country and thinking uh-oh. listen to the mayor, that's a good number but i'm still nervous. >> the whole focus here, singular focus is to stop a second wave from hitting new york city. we have to hold this virus at bay. we've shown it can happen. but now we have a threat from
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everywhere around us. >> so how do you handle that in the sense that you went through an exhausting, deadly, painful phase. everybody does their job, gets it down. it starts to trickle back up, how do you convince people, strap back in, we don't want to go through it again. >> i think in new york people have gone through it, they're taking it seriously. you can see that by looking at the positivity rate over the summer, which was around 1%. even though we've seen explosive growth across the country and in new york city it's ticked up to 1.6%. that's still amongst the lowest in the country. we have more cases in new york state than we did at the beginning of the month, we have about 1,000 people in the hospital we have a handful of deaths, around a dozen every day, that's still too many but we've increased testing dramatically, doing around 130,000 tests per day in new york state, which is 11 or 12% of the total for the whole
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country. what you're seeing is a lot more testing but not necessarily a lot more cases. people have gone through this here, they know to take it seriously. i think we're all hoping that everyone around the country heeds the calls and our experience and lets people know you don't want to go through what we went through here in new york city earlier in the year. >> you would think that would be the case. it was a dominant national and international story. yet when you see some positivity rates above 30% or 20% across the upper midwest and plains states. what do you think, when we talk to colleagues around the country in terms of were you not watching what happened here, why did you think you were immune from this? >> early on a lot of people didn't think it was going to get as bad in other places as it did in new york city or italy or wuhan. to date that's largely been true. we were overwhelmed here in march and april that hasn't been the case until now, hearing about field hospitals in wisconsin and texas we have
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gotten better at treating the disease. the likelihood that you'll have a severe case and that you'll need a ventilator and die from it, has decreased due to everything that we learned here in april and shared with our colleagues around the country. the death rate has decreased but if you increase the number of people getting covid that are in the hospital. the total number of deaths will continue to increase as it has over the past few weeks. we saw recently over 1,000 deaths back to that point a day in numbers we were seeing over the summer. but we're inching back up, hospitalizations are back up, we need to heed this advice all over the country. no area is immune from really exponential outbreak. >> just about all the numbers headed in the wrong direction. doctor, thank you for your time. a lot of court challenges about mail-in voting. democrats get two wins in battleground state, pennsylvania
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to be counted after election day, in north carolina, up to nine days after the election as long as they're postmarked by the 3rd. in pennsylvania, three days. justice amy coney barrett did not participate in either of those decisions because the court said the need for a prompt resolution. ariane de vogue and rick hassan join me now. in the pennsylvania case, they said this. i reluctantly conclude there is not enough time at this late date to decide the question before the election. does that mean we're done, it came too late or does the before the election part leave open the possibility they can come back on the same issues after the election? >> here where we were with pennsylvania. it had to do with a state supreme court decision. and basically it came up to the court two times. the first time they deadlocked and roberts basically sided with
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the liberals. and then the republicans, who brought the challenge, they knew that barrett was on the court so they decided to try again. and what they said is it's too close to the election. but he noted that in the -- in pennsylvania they're segregating out the ballots and he said it wouldn't be too late, we could review this after the election on a shortened time frame. but john, that would mean a lot. it would mean that the election came down to that state it would mean that those particular ballots would count so it's unlikely that would occur. but he made a point to say he is leaving that possibility open. >> leigh leaving that possibility open. do you see anything so far, democrats were not happy in wisconsin, they're happy about the pennsylvania and north
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carolina decisions, do you see a pattern emerging or are the cases too different to really know what would happen when other cases reach the court maybe after the election? >> we know from the wisconsin case there's a majority on the court that does not want to see changes in election rules coming from federal courts especially close to the election where the court seems more closely divided is cases coming up from state courts where the constitutional question is different. i think the big unanswered question is whether justice barrett would participate in any post election challenge and if she did would she side with the most conservative justices who believe that state legislatures have unfettered power to decide what the rules are going to be for electionsan even if they violate their own state constitutions as decided by their state supreme courts. it's a different theory about power than we've seen from the supreme court before. >> and that point is what progressives are very nervous
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about. they read the kavanaugh decision in the wisconsin case. they're worried about the scenario where the president says we're done, i'm leading, don't count any more ballots, anything else counted afterwards is going to be fraudulent. those states want to avoid the chaos and suspicions of impropriety that can ensue if thousands of absentee ballots flow in after election day. those who support voting rights say as long as it's in state law you count them, people watch, it's fine. the progressives say that tells them that this court will try to back up the president if he tries to do that. >> that's what was so interesting because kavanaugh's words in that case seemed to mirror the president had he said some states want to have deadlines. deadlines are important to block any chaos and get the votes counted election night. but, of course, many states don't do that.
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i think what's really interesting is how barrett got out of things last night. she didn't recuse, right, because that's what the democrats asked, they asked before that she didn't get involved in any election cases. she didn't do that. she said i need more time to get read in. her vote was going to be so critical. it's an interesting move last night that means she may participate down the road again, maybe the pennsylvania case but her first votes won't be in these contentious cases. she's key and it's interesting how conservatives, like rick said, really tipped their hand about where they're going down the road and it would be a big shift. >> rick, this may be a more political question than legal question but i'll try anyway. one of the questions has been if the president comes out on election night stop counting i'm ahe ahead, i don't trust any other
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count after this. would republicans stand up to him? listen to mitch mcconnell? >> we'll have a credible election here. we'll have an active election across the country. it may not be known election night and the american people are going to decide who they want to run their government for the next couple years. >> thoroughly credible election, may not be done on election night. those are the responsible words that i think a lot of people want to hear. are you convinced if the president starts asking for things outside of that people will stand up to him? >> i think a lot depends on the margin. if this is a blow out for biden, which is possible, then i think republicans are going to say, let's let the process play out. and the shenanigans that the president may pull will fall to the side. where this stuff matters is if it's a close election in the electoral college and say it comes down to a close race in president and there's trump alleging fraud and rigging the
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election, that's where republicans are going to look and see is there a way to use the courts or the political process to win this narrow election. that's the circumstance i think people are most worried about. >> we'll watch all this play out in the days ahead. grateful to have you both to help us. thank you so much. up next for us we'll look at the same issue we're talking about. the giant early voting numbers from three of the big swing states. water? why?! ahhhh! incoming! ahhhahh! i'm saved! water tastes like, water. so we fixed it. mio.
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it is a very busy day on the campaign trail. the stops tell us how each campaign sees its potential path to victory for president trump, florida and north carolina are the targets. polls show him behind in both states. we have correspondents fanned out across the battlegrounds. let's check in with a few beginning with diane in north carolina. >> reporter: more than 3.8 have already cast ballot s in north carolina. that's about 80% of the votes cast in 2016. early voting goes until saturday the busy days are expected to be friday and saturday as weather comes through, the remnants of
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hurricane zeta in north carolina. they're expecting today to be the day people get out and vote. about 850,000 votes came by mail. they're encouraging people, if you want to mail your ballot in, get it in. if not, drop it off at an early voting location or take it to your county board. let's check in with sarah murray in pennsylvania. >> reporter: the ballots are rolling in pennsylvania, more than 3 million people requested the ballots and more than 2 million have already returned them. if you have a mail-in ballot in pennsylvania turn it in now. if you are voting on election day, expect there to be long lines. in the meantime, expect competition for these 20 electoral votes. we know the democrats have the advantage when it comes to the early mail-in voting so republicans look to run up the score ahead of election day. ivanka trump is here today, karen pence is here today and the president is going to be here all weekend long. over to phoenix.
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>> reporter: here in arizona, they are smashing records when it comes to the early vote. you can see the silver ballot drop boxes throughout arizona at early voting sites where there is increased attention, increased voters in part because of increase voter registration. look at these numbers we have just gotten from the arizona secretary of state. if you look at the 2016 number, that registration number is 3.6 million voters. in 2020, it's now 4.7 million. that's an increase of 30%. how does that translate into the early vote where more people are voting? look at the ballots requested. 3.3 milli 3.3 million ballots have been requested as far as the number of ballots that have been cast, it's 1.9 million. that is more than half already that have taken place in the early vote. and john, at the top of the
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hour, the tabulation of the early votes continues. thanks to all of our correspondents out and about on the battleground states. when we come back, why is north carolina a problem this time for the president? it's time for sleep number's veterans day sale on the sleep number 360 smart bed. can it help with snoring? i've never heard snoring. exactly. no problem. ...and done. and now, save $1,000 on the sleep number 360 special edition smart bed, now $1,799. only for a limited time.
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let's dig a little deeper now into battleground state of north carolina. the president is visiting for the fourth time in two weeks. here's why, polls show let's bring in a republican strategist that knows the state well. you know the president is behind. he is trying to put a come back path to 270. you would like to have a few states you can say good, got it. lock it away. why is north carolina so tough for the president this time? >> if you go back and look, he won by 3.5, 3.7% of the vote. in 2012 and 2008, it went democratic for obama, for romney in '12. second closest state in the country both times. trump winning by three and a half points is a larger margin but not a large margin. this was always going to be close. one of the benefits joe biden has, which is an intangible, his
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name is not hillary clinton. i remember so often in 2016 when i talked to independent voters, even republican voters that didn't like donald trump, they would say but i can't vote for hillary clinton. the intensity of disapproval of hillary clinton was off the charts. she's 22% underwater even throughout the country. joe biden doesn't have that. that's a big advantage for him. >> the obama win came in 2008, history making year because of historic african-american turnout in a state where if african americans turn out in high numbers can be 20% or more of the electorate. when you see early voting numbers off the charts, biden campaign hopes for high black turnout. number two, the state has growing suburbs, suburban voters that turned on this president. >> my first race was a senate race in north carolina in 1990 and counsel of carey was containment area of relocating yankees. lot of yankees fans.
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the population tripled. you look at suburban raleigh and charlotte, those growing areas are people relocating from new jersey, new york, philadelphia, escaping high taxes to come to places like north carolina. why we see growth in houston and arizona as well. it is a real challenge. with the african-american vote, john, i would tell you the hbcus, 11 historic black colleges were turnout machines for obama in 2008, also for 2012, but in 2008, obama caught the republican party napping in north carolina. i don't give a lot of advice to democrats, if you want to win, get barack and michelle to suburban areas. that will get the message home quick and drive a lot of voters out. >> i think most competitive state in the country. fascinating to watch the next few days. up next, one country has gone 200 days without a single local coronavirus infection.
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there are some success stories even as we watch a painful coronavirus surge. taiwan has gone 200 days without a single case of local transmission. more from cnn reporters around the world. >> i am david culver in shanghai where we are seeing a difference compared with the rest of the world, specifically u.s. and europe where cases are surging. you notice it in the attitudes particularly for face masks. recent months, governments in shanghai, beijing and cities across china eased restrictions on wearing face masks. people are starting to go along with that. you go into some popular tourist spots like here, food vendor
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spots, shopping districts, most people are no longer wearing face masks. it is a dramatic difference from a few months ago over the summer with everyone. outside, we are wearing face masks. what does that suggest? as state media is touting control over the virus, people are feeling safer if not back to normal. >> i am jim bittermann in paris. some of the grimmest looking faces in town are in cities, bars, restaurants. this is most likely the last day the french will be able to go out for a drink or meal for the next four weeks. the french president macron told the nation last night locking down the country is an urgent necessity as covid cases mount, icu beds are filling up with covid patients. nearly 100% of beds will be filled by mid november unless something is done, he said. unless they have a good reason, citizens are restricted to home, allowed to go out one hour per
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day, only within one kilometer radius. exception for medical emergencies, grocery shopping and business with sick and elderly relatives. schools could remain open, according to the president. but the situation would be reevaluated to see if restrictions could be lifted. he is preparing them for a total lockdown that could go on four weeks or longer if numbers don't go the right direction. even the scientists he said are surprised how fast the virus is spreading. >> i am in the intensive care unit in czech republic which has one of the highest infection rates in the country, one of the highest infection rates in the entire world. hospitals and icus in check republic are being stretched to the max. this one filled all bed space. it is using what used to be a storage room across the hall to house more patients. the number of hospitalized people in the region has doubled in the last two weeks.
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this hospital has had to shut down seven departments. it says if they don't get more help, they'll have to turn away patients by monday or tuesday. even more than the space, hospitals are lacking in staff. to fill in gaps, many are recruiting volunteers, some medical students, others have no medical experience at all. at one hospital not far from here they are putting high school students, teenagers to work caring for covid patients. hello to viewers in the united states and around the world. i am john king in washington. thank you for sharing your day with us. a crowded campaign trail today. we hear from the president in florida this hour. five days left until american voters pick their president. 79 million ballots have been cast already. that's an enormous number. democrats believe the higher turnout, the better their chances. yet
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