tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN October 31, 2020 5:00pm-7:00pm PDT
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card, wolf. >> lots of wild cards, maeve weston. anderson cooper picks up cnn's special coverage of the countdown to election day, and that starts right knew. nobody is coasting to the finish because unlike past elections nobody knows where the finish line might be or what lies beyond it. already we're seeing difficulties in the number of places. people taking part in a black lives matter and the polls march were met by police with pepper spray. the racially diverse group walked from the church to the county courthouse where they held a rally urging people to vote. police told the crowd to disburse and making arrests.
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mother telling the paper her two kids, one 11 and the other 5 were hit. they held a proper protocol and they needed pepper spray when the crowd refused to disburse. they said the chemicals were sprayed on the ground and not directly at anyone but some of the crowd said that was not the case. today was the final day of early voting in the state. new hampshire, for one, ballots are being processed. in others, they're being challenged in the court. subject of judicial over sight because they're getting tied up in the mail. the president soon making the last of four stops today in pennsylvania, which he won so narrowly last time pinning a very dark picture of what happens if we do not know the winner on election day. >> we're going to be waiting november 3rd is going to come and go and we're not going to know. you're going to have bedlam in our country. you're going to have this period of nine days, seven days, whatever it is. and many bad things.
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>> joe biden making three stops today in michigan with former president obama in keystone state shoutout and boost from bruce springstein. >> scranton, pennsylvania. here success isn't handed down, it's forged with sweat, grit, and determination. this is his hometown. >> and with the big names hitting the air waves and air force one racking up air miles, we got a fresh look at the ground troop. biden advantage in battleground states of wisconsin and michigan. tight races in arizona and north carolina. perhaps most significantly, very little movement in each state. we'll take you through the battleground states tonight, both the traditional and the up expe unexpected ones. we'll look at the ballot challenges, voter fears and post election violence and the final polling and the pandemic that is raging out of control.
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nearly 100,000 new cases yesterday. the reporting is slower on the weekend but even so the case numbers so far tonight are staggering. nearly 66,000 that we know about at this hour. so there's a lot to bring you over the next two hours starting with cnn's arlitt saenz. how did things go with president obama and vice president biden on the trail together? >> reporter: well, anderson, joe biden and former president barack obama reprized their campaign road show appearing here in this important battleground state of michigan. you heard the former vice president personally speak to joe biden's ability to serve in the white house talking about their time in office and stressing how he has the skills needed to become commander in chief, but you also heard the former president go after president donald trump presenting that contrast between trump and biden and their leadership style and in how they are approaching the coronavirus pandemic, at a time when daze
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cases across the midwest when states like michigan are arising. take a listen to what he had to say a short while ago in detroit. >> three days. three days to pull the an end to a presidency that has divided this nation. three days we can put an end to a presidency that's failed to protect this nation. three days we can put an end to a president that's fanned the flames of hate all across the nation. when america's heard, i believe the message is going to be loud and clear. it's time for donald trump to pack his bags and go home! >> reporter: so that was the message from the former vice president. you also heard obama and biden both talking about the importance of obamacare and the fact that it protects pre-existing conditions. and the biden campaign really feels that president obama can
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help motivate voters like black voters, latinos and young voters. this was not obama's last stop for biden. he will also be campaigning on the final day before the election. he will be campaigning in south florida and georgia. take a listen to a bit more of what the former president had to say. >> what's his obsession with crowds anyway? he's still worrying -- he is still talking about his inauguration crowd being small, although he doesn't admit it. and that's the difference between joe biden and donald trump right there. trump cares about feeding his ego. joe cares about keeping you safe and your family safe and getting this country moving again. >> what was the calculation behind having president obama and vice president biden appear together in michigan as opposed to other battleground states? >> reporter: well, they decided to come here to michigan as this
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is one of those states that they are trying to re-establish the blue wall in. this is a state that president trump narrowly won back in 2016 after obama and biden won this state in 2008 and in their 2012 campaign. so they are trying to put in that work in these final days saying that they're not taking anything for granted, and they had that simple message for voters to just get out there and turn out and vote. they want to make sure that they don't repeat any of the mistakes that were made from last time around. they campaigned here in an area like detroit which has a significant african-american population. and you heard president obama talk about how they need to not become complacent like they were last time heading into this election. >> and just -- you talked about president obama's fighting the last few days. >> it will be all eyes on
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pennsylvania in the final stretch before the election. joe biden will be campaigning tomorrow in philadelphia and the former vice president, kamala harris and their spouses are fanning out across the state of pennsylvania as they are trying to re-establish that blue wall and win back one of those states that president trump flipped in 2016. anderson. >> appreciate it. central pennsylvania where the president is holding the last of four events in the state. joe johns is joining us for that. you're at the rally where the president is due to speak at 8 p.m. what's been going on there? what's been the message so far today? >> reporter: been a number of messages, anderson, quite frankly. a long day for the president here in pennsylvania. this will be the fourth stop in the keystone state for mr. trump. now among the things that have been going on, the president has really hit hard on the idea that he's concerned about a recent supreme court case which opened the door, if you will, for the
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possibility that ballots, mail-in ballots here in pennsylvania can be accepted up to three days after the voting ends. the president talked about that at the very beginning of the day. listen to what he had to say. >> we're clearly having problems -- >> i'm not hearing it. >> we're having problems getting that. that's been an issue he's been focused on. the president made four stops in pennsylvania. how confident are he and his allies that they can pull out another win there like they did four years ago. >> reporter: anderson, i'm sorry. i can't hear you. were you asking a question? >> how confident is the campaign in pennsylvania? >> reporter: i can tell you this. this has been an extraordinary day for the president. it's all about getting out the vote, if you will. obviously in these final days,
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and if the president of the united states can get out his vote here in the rural parts of pennsylvania, while at the same time keeping it close in the areas like philadelphia as well as pittsburgh where there's a lot more minority vote, a lot more lagging vote, if you will, then he thinks he's done his job and he can keep it very close. so to that end, one of the strategies the president seems to have is to talk, if you will, about the african-american vote, particularly black men and claiming biden has been insensitive at the very least to the needs of black men. example, the 1994 crime bill, something the president has talked about before. he's also talked about his economic plans, which he says have been crafted to help african-americans. not necessarily thinking he's going to get much more votes but
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certainly hoping some black men will stay home and that would inure to his benefit. the president has been pushing hard on the latino vote. as you know, anderson, there's a lot of concern on the democratic side about what kind of minority vote joe biden is going to get on tuesday. >> yeah. joe johns, appreciate it. coming up next to break down the new polling, boston's own heavy hitter john king has a wall. texas allegation highway intimidation by trump supporters. biden campaign bus on the road to san antonio, austin. ballot challenges and more. beto o'rourke joins us as well.
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chief national correspondent john king joins us now from the magic mall. what can you tell us? >> let's look at the numbers. let's go to the 2016 map. this is 2020. let's look at it from the 2016 map. it will help us understand the significance. new poll for cnn in arizona tonight. a four-point biden lead. close. president's in play. if joe biden could win this state, it would take it away. certainly take away the president's math there in arizona. it was a 4-point race four years ago. let's come east. this is very significant. 6-point lead in north carolina. that's a must-win for trump. arizona is, too, in most scenario. 6-point lead, 51-45. you can call this competitive. advantage biden. now we move to the midwest. this is why donald trump is president, michigan and wisconsin. look at the numbers in michigan, anderson. 12-point lead for joe biden. significant he's above 50.
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the president at 41. that's a problem for incumbent. late campaign you can't expect people to break your way. that's a problem for the president there. wisconsin, another big trump surprise four years ago. right now, look how close this was. 47.8 to 47. 52 and 44. the president stuck in the mid 40s. that's a problem for the president in a state he won four years ago. just one other poll tonight, anderson, not a cnn poll but important poll. des moines register poll in iowa, 48 for trump, 41. that has been very close. this is just one poll. it shows some evidence the trump campaign has been saying the midwest would come back. the iowa poll comes back. >> just in terms of the path of 270 for each candidate, does the new polling change the outlook? >> let me start it this way. switch the maps and get to the path for 270. this is donald trump's map four years ago. think of our new polling in the context of this, right? if you think about it, if joe
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biden is winning arizona, if joe biden is winning north carolina, if joe biden wins michigan and wisconsin, joe biden is the next president of the united states. he would not have to win pennsylvania, he would not have to win florida, he would not have to win ohio, iowa, texas. you were talking to beto o'rourke. joe biden could win by winning those four states there. that's one way to look at it. let's flip it and look at it another way. let's start here. what i've done here, take away all of the states that are not solid. keep all of the solid trimp stat trump states, all of the solid biden states. let's assume the president's team is right. overwhelming surge of voters. the president is going to get iowa. let's say arizona was close. that surge is enough to overcome the need there. if you're winning arizona, you're winning texas. if that surge is real, you get florida and georgia. theniowa, you'll get
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ohio. let's say the president gets north carolina. let's pause for a minute. this is a hypothetical. joe biden gets the clinton states. he wins new hampshire, minnesota, he wins colorado, he wins nevada. now let's just split the two congressional districts. president trump won them both last time. i've seen polling with joe biden with healthy lead in maine. there's a pretty healthy lead in nebraska. let's give this one to president trump. then what happens? if our polls are right, joe biden has big double digit leads here and here, 259, 259. there's a reason the president's making four stops in pennsylvania today, anderson. by some scenarios, it comes down to that. 20 electoral votes there and all the way to the supreme court. >> it's going to be interesting. >> it is. >> yeah. to say the least.
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more than 90 million americans have either already voted in person or mailed in their ballot. amazing. that represents almost 2/3 of the entire votes cast in the 2016 presidential election. all this while those new cnn battleground polls we've been discussing say joe biden is maintaining his lead in some states. let's get perspective from van jon jones. rick santorum and dana bash. dana, the new polls joe biden leading in michigan and wisconsin. tighter races in arizona and
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north carolina. what do they tell you? >> reporter: that the path and the rhythm of this race is still where it was, that the upper midwest is and always has been the biden campaign's belief that it is their best shot at kind of turning the trump states back to blue, rebuilding that blue wall, so to speak, and it is the states that historically have been more red but have demographic shifts, arizona and north carolina, that are -- in one case in the margin of error, in one case just outside the margin of error. biden's benefit. the open question is whether the shifts are happening fast enough to benefit biden. and i'm talking about expansion of the suburbs in both arizona and north carolina. the younger voters in both states. and that is one of the story lines, the major story lines of the 2020 election is the kind of
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shift of some of these states and whether or not we're in a transition period and whether the next election will kind of bring it totally along or whether this is the time where that's going to happen. >> van, this des moines register poll showing trump leading biden by 7 points, they were tied last month in the state of iowa. what's your read on that? >> terrified. freaked out. scared. look, we don't know what's going on out there. you know, there are two different forces that are hard to poll for. one is could there be kind of a growing maga wave? are people watching this stuff at home and seeing all these african-americans and liberals and standing in long lines. i've got to go vote. i'm worried now as a republican, i'm going to go and vote. are you seeing something being galvanized and on the other hand, is there a youth quake
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coming. you could have a bunch of young voters and between the black lives matter, climate stuff, gun control, they might be moving in a way you can't track. we don't know what's going on out there. it's going to come down to tuesday and we'll see it, but when you see something like that in a state like iowa, if you know anything at all, you get freaked out and scared. everybody who's watching it, that was a shock to us. i hope it's wrong. >> senator santorum, what do you see in iowa and pennsylvania which you know very well? >> i've spent a lot of time in iowa, too, and the des moines register poll is pretty much the gold standard. i can go back to my race back in 2012 and they were the only one that saw my race shaping up the way it did and it broke late. and so i -- you know, certainly as a republican i'm very encouraged by that. it sounds to me like, you know, maybe the midwest is coming home and that, you know, iowa borders minnesota, it borders wisconsin. that could portend well for
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trump on those two states. he only really needs one of those two along with as you saw john king's map, the other states that are generally republican states like arizona, georgia, florida, north carolina. so on pennsylvania, which obviously i know a little bit about, too, i've been talking to a lot of folks up there in the last few days, and everybody has the same message no matter where across the board, and that is that the trump campaign is the one that's out there. they're the most visible. they're on the ground. there's a lot of energy, a lot of enthusiasm and that there is a surge. they feel it. that's what i keep saying. i had one guy who follows these things about as close as anybody in pennsylvania says i feel eerily optimistic. i talked to him three weeks ago after the first debate. he said, this is over. we're going to get creamed. we're going to lose the house. we're going to lose the state senate. now he's not saying those things. >> go ahead, ben. >> part of the reason democrats might feel better we would
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otherwise is because some of these votes have been locked in, that type of stuff. the surge coming this late has to overcome a lot, but i'm hearing similar stuff from the red parts of pennsylvania and people are starting to rally. i also know a bunch of people in philadelphia are also starting to rally. it's going to be a -- the brawl to settle it all in pennsylvania. >> van, i'm wondering, we've seen reports the last couple of days about concerns about early voting by african-americans, latinos in florida, arizona, some other states. >> being low? >> yeah. >> yeah. we're seeing that as well. you know, it's very, very hard to figure out how much of this early vote is democrats kind of can pallizing their only day out vote. there is concern especially trump has contended so hard for african-american men in a way that's unprecedented for republican nominee, it could be having an effect. seems to be having some kind of an effect.
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african-american men, probably 85% are going to vote against him, but that's different than 88, 89%, that could have an impact. >> that's really the key, anderson. so much of what we are seeing right now is hard for anybody who has either run for office, like senator santorum, or covered politics or worked in politics for years because of the unbelievable early voting. i mean, it is absolutely astronomical. 90 million people have voted already. north of 40% of registered voters in this country, and the other, you know, thing that we just don't know and won't know until all of the votes have been counted is the youth vote. van talked about this. that is exploding across the battleground states, particularly in a place like georgia we have seen. and what kind of an effect will that have? we just don't know, which, you know, not to sound corney, but makes our jobs exciting. >> senator santorum, for you what are the biggest unknowns?
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>> well, i mean, i think the last two points that were made. i mean, the youth vote. you can make the argument, obviously, that donald trump isn't popular among the youth, but one of the things that i think if you're a young person and you feel like most young people do, which is coronavirus is not that big of a concern to you because it doesn't have a particularly negative effect on the health of young people, you know, vis-a-vis older people, the contrast that donald trump is trying to lay out between joe biden doing what europe is doing right now, which is shutting everything down, and then biden will be like boris johnson, like angela merkel and shut this economy down. if you're a young person, that's not a particularly enticing thing to hear because that's going to have a huge impact on you and your ability to provide for yourself and your family. so that may be part of the thing that's going on. i've heard the same thing in philadelphia. votes are down in the city of philadelphia, particularly in the african-american community, and i'm also hearing strange
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things about actually trump doing disproportionately well in that community. i don't believe that to be honest with you, but the fact that the votes are down is an encouraging sign for trump. >> i think most of the young people that i know that were going to vote, they can't imagine four more years of this chaos. you have the most diverse generation in the history of america, maybe the most diverse generation in the history of the world, and they have friends who are muslim, afraid to walk out of their houses. they're seeing babies ripped away from their moms at the border. if there is a youth quake, they're not worrying about angela merkel, they're worrying about their friends and their network. >> i'll just add. i just did a story on the youth vote. obviously in recent years younger people have been trending more to the left and more towards democrats. historically, i think senator santorum is right. that is not the case and i went out with young people at uva, they were knocking on doors for republicans. college republicans.
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it's not -- i'm not going to sit here and say that it's even, that it's 50-50, but they do exist. >> van jones, rick santorum and dana bash, thank you. a lot to watch out for. next we focus on texas. beto o'rourke joins us to discuss whether democrats can flip the state and a legal battle over ballots that lies ahead. who transforms homes for those in need. i feel comfortable and protected all day long. dove men+care 48h freshness with triple action moisturizer. that will change me forever. yes. ♪ start your someday today with twenty to forty percent off all bridal. why?! ahhhh! incoming! ahhhahh! i'm saved!
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only two states recorded more votes in the early voting period during the entirety of the general voting period. 9.6 million votes recorded. court battles over voting standards which ballots may count are a big factor as well. here to talk about all of this, a man who nearly swung a senate seat to democrat, beto o'rourke. thank you so much for being with us, congressman. you campaigned with senator kamala harris. there yesterday. democratic presidential candidate. where do you see this race in texas? >> well, she came to the right place because as you mentioned, texas has already surpassed its 2016 vote total, which is our previous high water mark and was the first state to do that. and we are seeing records shattered in almost every part of the state, but it's in the rio grande valley where i saw her, he had denberg, texas, el paso, my town.
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webb county where loredo is and other areas where we need to pick up turnover. her to be there and visiting the communities that are 90, 95% mexican-american are huge. this state in the last three years went from 50th, dead last, to first in the nation in youth voter turnout, first in absolute numbers of ballots cast and first in the nation in over performing its 2016 total. so the trend so far is really good going into election day. >> are you disappointed the vice president himself hasn't personally been campaigning in texas? >> i'm really happy that senator harris came down. we would love to see joe biden in texas. i think it would be absolutely catalytic, but it was a big boost tow ha have senator harri here. she was in fort worth and houston texas as well. >> back in 2016 there was, you know, some talk that hillary clinton could carry texas. obviously she lost. the state was elusive for you
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finally in 2018 against senator cruz. you came close. what makes this time different? >> you know, i think each one of those years built towards this one. in 2016 hillary clinton after investing zero dollars in texas outperformed all the polls and actually performed better than any democratic nominee in decades. in 2018 i became the first democrat since lyndon baines johnson in '64 to carry the four metro areas and it was the most votes cast for democrat ever. we won big races down the ballot and we also registered 2 million voters since the last presidential election cycle. all of that expanding the roles, expanding access to ballot box, energizing voters and specifically going after young voters whose turnout is up 600% over 2016. has produced these results that you see now. so this isn't a fluke. this is something that's been building for a while through
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organizations like the texas organizing project and great candidates who are running grassroots campaigns. if bide dep wins on the night of november 3rd, which as you know will seal the deal for him and make it mathematically impossible for donald trump to have a path to victory, it will be less about frankly the top of the ticket and more about the down ballot statehouse races that are energizing the electorate and sending voters up ballot to the top of the ticket. >> if you're looking at harris county for a moment, got the biggest population of a county in texas, group of republicans filed a petition there to halt drive through voting. going to be a hearing on monday. the state supreme court has already upheld it. critics are trying a new argument at this time. first of all, a, what do you think is going to happen there? how significant is that? what does it tell you that the president's allies are doing everything in their power in just about every state to have fewer people voting this election? >> this is already the most
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voter suppressed state. the most onerous voter id laws. 750 polling places over the last eight years. the most vigorous racial gerrymander in the united states. greg abbott closed all of the supplementary absentee ballot dropoffs and now they're trying to disqualify 127,000 votes cast in drive-through voting. the all republican state supreme court has ruled in favor of drive through voting. the republican secretary of state of texas approved the drive through voting plan. i don't know if the intention is to actually succeed in court as much as it is to sew confusion and chaos about what the rules are and it's really a display of their desperation because they know that when we vote, they lose. that's why they tried for so long to keep texas voters from being able to cast their ballots. 9.7 million votes cast. very good news for democracy and
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for democrats in the state of tex texas. >> i want to ask you about an incident that happened yesterday. trying to make it from san antonio to austin surrounded and blocked by trump supporters and vehicles. there was a small collision caught on tape. we should mention we don't know what's led up to this event. we've reached out to both sides and yet to hear back. the idea that this election may have descended into something like this, supporters seeking to intimidate others. what does that tell you about where things are going in the next couple of days? >> i mean, i think this is very much connected to the soup trying to throw out the 127,000 votes cast. when you cannot win by the rules, you either try to change the rules after the fact, which is what they try to do in harris county, or you go beyond the peaceful exercise of your democratic right to vote and you start to use intimidation, the threat of violence or actual violence as we saw from the videotape captured of those
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trump supporters trying to run the biden bus off the road. and actually engaging with another vehicle. incredibly dangerous. thankfully no one was seriously hurt in that. >> i mean, you would think a lot of americans seeing this would just get annoyed by the idea that there are folks out there trying to run anybody's campaign bus off the road and you would hope it would have the opposite impact. it would make people want to go out and vote and make sure that their vote is count. >> i think that's what you see happening. they've tried to make it so hard for people to vote. >> you see folks last week waiting seven or eight hours in line to cast their ballots. you see folks despite the intimidation, threat of violence. trump supporters with bull horns and guns, anderson, who show up right next to those early voting locations get in line
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nonetheless and having the courage and persistence to wait until they actually cast their vote. texas is a real test for our democracy and for our country and so far texas is coming through with flying colors and so i'm really proud of my fellow texans and we're standing up to the bullying, the intimidation, suppression and we're making sure that our votes are counted and our voices are heard. if we do this in great enough numbers on tuesday then we for the first time in 44 years will vote for the democratic nominee. we will end our national nightmare and we will be able to turn the page on this kind of violent intimidation. donald trump and trumpism in america and start the next new chapter with joe biden and kamala harris. >> beto o'rourke, appreciate your time tonight. thank you. just ahead, we're going to continue the conversation we were having about the legal battles over votes. supporters and joe biden fighting with all eyes on the supreme court and the new 6-3 conservative majority.
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over voting standards in texas. one prominent issue of course is whether states can receive ballots by mail past election day if state law doesn't expressly allow it. republicans in pennsylvania have tried and failed twice to get the state court to reject and extend the lines. justice alito has left the door open which is the first since justice amy coney barrett joined the court. in wisconsin they sided with republicans and didn't in north carolina. chief justice roberts key in that. they're granting the request to set aside the late-arriving ballots putting their viability in limbo as well. to get some perspective from someone who dealt with ballot count battles. he served as counsel for the romney and busch campaigh campa. thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having me, anderson. >> can you explain to people
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your general perspective on election integrity on president trump. he has been talking a lot about voter fraud, about mail-in voting and despite your long history and proud history with the republican party, you pushed back on him in a very public way. >> i have. i've spent the better part of four decades being in precincts and running election day operations where republican poll watchers properly were in the polling place to make sure things operated correctly. and both democrats and republicans have found isolated incidents of the fraud he speaks about, but nothing, nothing can justify the charges he's made that the whole system is fraudulent and the results rigged. and for a president of the united states to be tearing down our basic institutions with not anything close to enough evidence to make that case is i think very wrong and really dangerous. >> the president's also been,
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you know, talking about, you know, people acting as poll watchers. i'm not exactly sure what he means. obviously there are poll watchers, that is a thing, but he seems to be encouraging something on election day. does that concern you? >> well, it does. the role of poll watcher is essential to the process. you want both political parties operating to pursuant of the laws of the different states. to be in the polling stations. to deal with problems that arise. frauds and ig regularities they see. once the ballots are cast and counted, to validate the returns that nothing untoward is going on. you can run it through a contest procedure or a recount a few weeks after the election, all pretty legitimate, both parties
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take advantage of that and use that. that's proper. now, the president is talking about poll watchers taking on a different role, from actually getting in the way of the smooth functioning of the polling place, making a series of unfounded challenges to slow things down because for some reason he thinks that's in his political interest. then you start getting into the laws of every state that talk about voter intimidation and that will be a bright line officials will draw. >> in terms of specifics, do you think ballots postmarked before november 3rd that arrive after election day, should they be counted? i know in many states, veterans' ballots are allowed to be counted several days in some states after the election. >> well, the way we run our election, each state has its own authority to run its elections the way they want. so these are policy
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determinations that are made in each state by the proper public official. using the legislature and it seems to mean that each state should be able to make its own rules and so, what is in the law is really the prerogative of the state and i think if you want to analyze justice roberts' different positions it's that he has said that state officials have that role and federal judges should not be intervening to overturn what state officials have decided is right. >> ben ginsburg, i appreciate your time and your expertise. north carolina is another state under the microstop. considered a swing state. the stakes could not be higher. we talked to voters there about what they want on election day. >> reporter: the land of the
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pines has become the land of the politician. front and center thanks to sudden swing state status and dead-heat polling that has president trump and former vice president biden neck and neck. >> he turned another red state blue, cnn can now projection obama narrowly winning north carolina. >> picked up the state in a close one with record turnout before losing it in 2012. ♪ proud to be an america >> reporter: in 2016 with the roughly 3-point win, the trump/pence again painted the tar heel state red and he's trying to re-create that in 2020. but north carolina has chabsd over the past now years. the state is already closing in its total 2016 turnout. with really morning turnout participation. a quarter of state's 7.3 million voters are new voters since the
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last election. meaning, they ether didn't live in north carolina or weren't registered in 2016. newly registered voters here are younger, more diverse andless likely to pick a party, instead operating to register unaffiliated. almost every single model shows that in order to get to 270, trump has to. he has two 11th hour trip here on the schedule and that's in addition to the half-dozen stops since september, holding large rallies and now covid-stricken counties he won in '16 in the suburbs harping on the pandemic restrictioning and trying to appeal to the state's incredibly diverse population. biden along with running mate senator kamala harris, courting
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the same suburban women as trump. biden has visited twice since september and harris is making another stop here sunday. these voters could help determine not only the next president but the balance of the u.s. senate as well. with a closely watched race between cal cunningham and incumbent thom tillis. >> ladies and gentlemen the best is yet to come. i'm donald trump and i approve this message. >> the nation united, the nation strengthen, healed, i'm joe biden and i approve this message. >> reporter: it comes in fourth in state spending for the biden camp. both campaigns are dropping more than $5 million in ads in the final week leading up to the election, making their final push for this swing state's sweet 15.
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>> senator tillis had covid earlier this month. how is it impacting the race here? >> reporter: in every state, covid is impacting it in some way, here in north carolina, you hit the nail on the head, covid is spiking. for the past two weeks has been setting and breaking its own day lu new infection records. thom tillis had covid. he apologized for not previously wearing mask. that's something some republican politicians have tried to use as a wedge to talk about and president trump has done the same. another way that it's impacting things, anderson, is voting. north carolina at this point has more than 4.5 million votes, that's almost 95% of the total number of votes that were cast in all of 2016 and a lot of that is due to covid, people voting
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early, we can see it impacting early. >> they're trying to figure out how to navigate that here at this point, there's no way to escape this pandemic in north carolina or any other state. >> appreciate it. still more to come -- a deep dive into the new polls of key battle ground states. we'll discuss what these numbers mean. countdown to election day brought to you by borat, subsequent movie film, an amazon original movie. in the bay area, we believe in science.
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good evening. hanging over all of it at all the stops in all the states a pandemic that's now consuming the country. nearly 66,000 new cases so far just today. which is staggering for a weekend where reporting is usually slower during the rest of the week, on top of nearly 100,000 new infections just yesterday. no matter what else on the election covid is on the ballot.
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dr. anthony fauci just spoke to washington post, he said a mouthful. it reads a whole lot of hurt, fauci warns of a covid-19 surge. josh, i want to read some of what dr. fauci wrote. quote, we're in for all a whole lot of hurt, as you go into the fall and winter season with people congregating at home indoors, you can't possibly positioned more poorly. he was pretty candid about what's to come. it couldn't be any worse. >> yes, dr. fauci believes it's going to be -- 100,000 cases a day this fall for, you know, a number of weeks, he believes that the administration has taken an unfocused approach. he barely talks to the president anymore. very few coronavirus task force meetings.
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with scott atlas. he said, quote,/unquote, i don't know what he's talking about. giving the president bad advice on a number of fronts. dr. atlas is promoting herd immunity which he doesn't support. one of the reasons the task force has less frequently in recent months according to officials because of dr. atlas and his influence. they know that he's the president's favorite coronavirus adviser, both he and dr. deborah birx who used to brief the president daily and transmission rates, you know, how problematic the virus was going to be, dr. fauci said that neither one of them see the president anymore. they stay in their offices. dr. birx has traveled across the
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country. dr. fauci says he doesn't go to the white house anymore. >> this is terrifying. i mean, this is the coronavirus task force isn't a thing anymore. we learned a couple of days ago, vice president pence has event been to a meeting, the president's not at meetings, i mean, fauci isn't talking to the president. i find it somewhat startling. you said that the president called fauci when the president was in the hospital and sick. >> yeah, when he was in walter reed, he said the last conversation he had with the president was about the president's own case, his own coronavirus. >> and the president made that call? >> he had not spoken with him about policy, he had not been at the white house to speak with the president. only when at walter reed. >> so the president called fauci? >> that's correct. >> the president of the united states has banished dr. fauci, doesn't want him talking to the public, limit his television
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appearances, shown up on podcasts and we take excerpts from those, they've done everything possible to silence him, but when the president of the united states himself in the hospital with coronavirus he called dr. fauci for advice. >> he called the president to talk about his own case. >> it makes it infur rating, when it's about him he wants to talk to an expert, but when it's the american people he doesn't want that expert talking to the american people. >> when i asked dr. fauci on the phone last night, when he had spoken to the president, dr. fauci said it was only about his own case recently when he was in walter reed. dr. fauci said on the phone that he does not regularly go to the white house anymore because he doesn't think it's safe with all of the infections, the outbreaks, the outbreak around the president.
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he calls into some meetings but he hasn't talked to the president in considerable time other than when the president was at walter reed. >> when it affects the president he wants the best advice. he also talked to you about white house chief of staff mark meadows. what did he say about mark meadows? >> he said that when mark meadows went on the show last sunday, we can't control the pandemic but he appreciated that, he thought that's what the strategy is, and dr. fauci said mark meadows, you know, pretty straightforward guy. on the jake tarper, we don't think we can control the pandemic, at least he's admitting quote/unquote the strategy and i commend that. >> he tried to walk it back the next day, we can contain it and sort of danced around trying to
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repair the damage of actually speaking the truth, which understandably fauci appreciates him at least admitting what we all know. josh, fascinating. >> we spent last night an hour on the phone with dr. fauci and it was very clear to us he's frustrated with theed a min stras's response, he thinks so much needs to be done. he thinks cases are going to rise and deaths are going to rise. if something doesn't change we're going to be in for a long, dark winter, a record number of coronavirus cases and he said to us, very straightforward, i'm very concerned and i don't know what else to do about this. >> josh, really appreciate the reporting, as always, thank you. again, i'm just this is the first i'm hearing this, i don't know you at home find this in r
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infuriarating has -- dr. fauci and took over the briefings and then fauci's on the side and not in the building and not at the meetings now and now we learn when the president is in the hospital sick with coronavirus and scared, worried, heart racing, he picks up and he calls fauci and seeks his advice but he doesn't want you to get fauci's advice in interviews. it's amazing 37 this is where we're at. new cnn polling what it says. we'll have that. what it doesn't say. also, one other new poll, the question is, is an outlier or a sign of new strength for the president in iowa?
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today in reading the president sounded optimistic about his zblums the numbers, the way i look at them in pennsylvania, i don't think we won't have to worry about it too much, okay. and florida. and ohio. and lots of others. north carolina is looking pretty good. did you see that? this is no longer the fake suppression polls. we had a thing, wisconsin is great and we won it last time. we had a poll come out, i'm up one, i'm down one, i'm up one, i'm even, you know what this crazy stuff. you know, it's within this area. we're doing much better than that. i think we're way ahead >> the question is, is he? the new polling, joe biden enjoys the advantage. within arizona within a tenth of the point. to get perspective from cnn analyst harry eaton.
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harry, first of all, when i look at those numbers and you see biden's up, i'm somewhat hesitant on polls in general, but then you see the des moines register poll out of iowa they've gone from being even to now trump being up by seven points, why should we trust any of these polls, biden has the lead when all of a sudden a different poll comes out tomorrow, oh, okay, no longer does, i mean, what's changed? >> i can't tell you how many texts and e-mails from people that i have known forever who got in touch after that salzer poll. we don't look at one poll. we look at bunch of polls. you saw those cnn polls. in most cases, biden had a clear advantage obviously in arizona, we call there's no clear leader,
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but the average poll continues to have biden ahead. the message that we should take into these final days. yes, some polls trump a little bit closer or even ahead, that's why we have a margin of error. even if the polling average were as wrong as they were in 2016, biden would still lead in the electoral college overwhelmingly, he would lose in iowa, it's consistent with the cnn polls saying that biden is ahead in states like wisconsin and states like michigan and even in arizona where it's fairly close but biden is still ahead. >> the breakdown in north carolina. who's voted already, who hasn't, any indicator there about how that state may break? >> i think this is rather important, if you look at that poll, what you see, among those who have voted, joe biden hold an advantage, those who vote on election day trump is leading.
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democrats seem to be coming out early and voting. in a state like north carolina, also a key factor when we watch the returns come tuesday night that's the state where the early vote will be count first. don't be surprised if biden jumps out to lead and trump tries to claw his way back. wait until the results come in, much more accurate t important accurate than fast. >> what's different about what you're seeing for vice president in this moment, i mean, look diaper in the numbers, more certain these numbers will reflect what's going to happen. >> sure, i should just say, donald trump can win this race, it's not over, we have voting that will go on tuesday, there's still early voting going on, first off, it's the national polling. we hold a 50-state election.
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but the national polling shows joe biden up by nine, ten points. the national polling last time around only showed hillary clinton up by 10 or 15 points. if joe biden wins by 8 or 9 nationally he's not going to lose the electorate. a big shift towards joe biden and if you do infact joe biden do better among whites without college degree that would be good news for the vice president given his strength. >> where else in particular are you interested in? >> yeah, you know, one other thing i'm really interested in is a state like florida, hispanic voters, he's still
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leading amongst them but he's not leading by the same margin that hillary clinton did, florida is a state that biden doesn't need to carry, the president has to carry that state. the biden is able to win florida that knockout blow and basically turn election week, joe biden wins in florida democrats should be pretty secure that they're probably going to win this election. >> there were concerns among democrats about the percentage of early turnout by african-americans and latinx people. >> that's definitely true. one of the most interesting things we've seen in this cycle, joe biden isn't doing well as among as hispanics and african-americans. if the polling is correct, then joe biden is going to make up for that weakness with strength with white voters doing considerably better than hillary
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clinton. in north carolina he's leading among them. the research triangle, very, very important. very key for biden. we'll see. ultimately, combie deeper into trump's space. >> you know this stuff backwards and guard. >> i don't do anything else. it's a pandemic. this is the first time i left my house in how long. my goodness. i order in every meal. there's not much to do right now. >> harry, thank you so much. coming up next, trump supporters stranded in the cold after one of his rallies. also president obama's with joe biden in the closing days. the concern of hispanic voters may not be embracing him as the way his campaign hoped.
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more breaking news following the president's rally in butler. dark and cold out there. lot of people who went to the rally got stuck in it. not the first time. last week, the same thing happened after the trump rally at an airport in omaha, nebraska. this latest chilly scene tonight, what's the situation right now? >> reporter: well, anderson, it appears the trump campaign has made an effort to get a number of buses to that location in butler, pennsylvania to ferry those people who came to the rally tonight. when we left the rally it was a good 30 minutes after the president had lifted off on marine one and we walked into a logistical nightmare, thousands of people shoulder to shoulder, nowhere to go, no buss in sight,
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no direction from anyone from the trump campaign on where to go. it became so frustrating for many of these trump supporters they ended up just walking, the decision that our drew made, my producer and i walked about a mile to get to our parking lot, found our car and when we started driving away we spotted trump supporters walking to their cars as much as three, four miles away from where the trump rally has taken place. we put this oinformation on social media. the trump campaign responded there were buses coming to pick these supporters up, more than an hour and a half when they posted that picture to show that this was starting to alleviate the congestion that was coming out of the rally at that time. anderson, i should point out it's a cold night here in pennsylvania, about 41 degrees, but that's not freezing, supporters were already sitting outside in the cold for four,
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five hours waiting to hear the president speak and then had to wait for an hour or longer to get on these buses to get back to their parking spots and this is against the backdrop of a global pandemic, obviously we know the trump campaign takes little to no precautions to take care of their supporters, but in this atmosphere, leaving the event again, big groups of people packed tightly but when the buses show up they put on those buses, no attempt to social distance to get them out as quickly as possible. so the risk of the spread of the coronavirus only increases as a result of this. the trump campaigns claims they have the situation taken care, as many as 47 buses are now arriving or in the process of arriving to ferry these people back to their parking spots. but it was a huge headache for the thousands of people that came to this rally tonight.
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>> thank you very much. joe biden and form president obama campaigned through michigan, ended up in detroit, where obama talked about how close the two had become. >> i'll admit 12 years ago, when i asked him to serve as the nominee for vice president, i didn't know him all that well, we served in the senate together, he and i came from different places, different generations, but i came to admire joe as a man who is decent to his core, a man who learned early on to treat everybody with dignity and everybody with respect. somebody who lived by the words his mom taught him, nobody's better than you but you're no better than anyone else and that decency and empathy, that belief that everybody counts, that's really who joe is.
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and the good news is, that's who he'll be when he's president. because i can tell you something the presidency doesn't actually change who you are it just reveals who you are. >> we're now on the obama effect as well as democrat concerns about turning out black and hispanic voters. joining us is david axelrod and anna navarro. david, whose president obama's target audience and do you think his criticism of president trump is effective? >> i thichl target audience at this point is black, hispanic voters, younger voters, he went to flint, michigan, detroit, michigan, he's going to atlanta on monday, he's going to south florida and his mission obviously, he has broader appeal, and you know, he'll hit a wider audience, but right now,
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i think the big push is to get people to go out and vote and you know that in 2016 the lack of turnout in minority communities in michigan and in wisconsin and other places was a pivotal element of what happened. so i think obama is a big weapon to try and -- >> ana, multiple reports that democrats are worried about african-american and latino turnout in miami-dade county. senator harris was in state campaigning today. what do you think is going on there? >> president obama was here last week. look, you know, 2016, the shy trump voter was so 2016, anderson, i think we have a shy biden vote going in south florida and i'll tell you why, because the level of aggressiveness, the level of bullying the level of peer
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pressure that's going amongst trump voters in south florida can't be measured and can't be explained. all those people who were shy trump voters in 2016 are out and loud and driving around in 15-foot pickup trucks covered in trump flags and i know -- i know people whose names you'd recognize who tell me, we love joe biden, we're going to vote for joe biden but we got to live in this community but we don't want to deal with being called a communist. cut an ad for joe biden are being referred to as traitors in this community. castro foes their entire lives, i'm being called a traitor and communist in this community and people just don't want to deal with the grief and the stress and the attacks. >> gloria, you know miami-dade
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is a must-win for democrats. so far only 56 .of registered voters ha democrats have voted. is that worrying for the democrats? >> it is. i've been keeping in touch with someone who's a supporter of biden, counts votes and organizes to give a lot of money for biden and what he was hoping was this weekend you would see more people of color voting, his hope was that in miami-dade, some of these voters and it may be because of what ana is talking about, but they vote late and he feels that they are going to come out and vote late, but what worries them is that they need to do what hillary clinton did and if they can't do as much with latino voters, hillary clinton was almost 2 to 1 in the state of florida but they need to catch up a little bit in miami-dade and that's why
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you're seeing such a push with important surrogates in that part of the state. they think it's very winnable for them, but they thought the early voting would had been a little bit stronger for them. >> ann anderson can i say something. >> we like to talk on tv about the latino vote, the latino vote is so diverse, what's happening in south florida for example where there's so cuban americans, venezuelans, what's happening there is very different than what's happening in central florida where there's been an influx of puerto ricrer. what's happening is not normal and is a result of donald trump having focused on this for the last four years and having drilled into the minds of people here that voting for any democrat whether it was joe biden or, you know, joe schmo
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met you were voting for a communist and a socialist. that's been going on for four years. >> david, how concerned are you about the turnout there. >> look, i mean, i think this has been -- they're absolutely right about it, this has been a concern. i will point out a couple of things, there's a history in the african-american community in resistance to mail-in voting. they want to vote at polling stations because of suspicions about how these votes are handled. hope of a late surge here in miami-dade. as harry was saying to you earlier, joe biden is doing much better than hillary clinton among white voters, college-educated white voters, seniors, obviously an important element in florida, this is not the same race, donald trump is not doing as well with white
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voters who the most numerous segment of the florida vote -- >> or suburban. >> and that will offset some of this. i wouldn't say that there's a sense of panic about this but there's obviously a sense of wanting to strengthen that vote in the case of marginal race which often happens in florida. >> ana, some people are pointing to the biden campaign's decision to forego knocking on doors because of the pandemic. dana bash has described republicans out knocking out on doors. do you think that's had an impact? >> yes, they were playing the catch-up the truth is in a state like florida, donald trump has allies like the governor of florida, like the senators of florida, people who understand
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the on the ground efforts here. part of his adviser group for years and have been helping him for years. it shows. they' their on the ground strength is showing. what's interesting, and i don't know how david or gloria feel about this, there are still hundreds of thousands of outstanding mail-in ballots that were sent out to people who requested the them, in florida, you got to proactively requested them that haven't been returned, a great advantage to democrats, my question is, if you went through the trouble of filling out an absentee ballot request and you got it, what are you going to do with it? sit home and look at it and wake up on november 4th regretting that you didn't vote so i think that's why there's some hope and optimism because those people are going to show up and votes. >> republicans point to that, those ballots haven't come back.
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i will say this on this whole issue of early voting versus election-day voting, a sense that there was going to be this outpouring of republican votes on election day and that democrats would primarily vote early, what we see in florida and around the country that both republicans and democrats are voting early and what that may mean tuesday, the electorate will be smaller than usual, maybe more akin to what we normally see than asymmetric turnout so democrats have a big lead going into tuesday in florida or substantial lead. >> but the whole strategy for winning according the trump campaign and what they're counting on is this ground game we're talking about and i remember when we used to talk at mitt romney's fabulous ground game and that didn't go so well and what they're saying is that because they knocked on the doors, they are saying don't worry about this early vote, our
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people are going to come out in droves. >> gloria, people are coming out now. >> that's right. >> people are voting now. >> and so it's so hard in this kind of election where you look at these numbers and you say, okay, it's different from any other election because so many people have voted early and so they're saying, they're going to have the same number of people voting on election day. but that's not going to happen >> it's completely different than how it used to be in florida where republicans used to dominate the mail-in ballots and democrats used to dominate early voting. a 180 paradigm shift. >> thanks so much. just ahead, another key in turning out the vote, the mail. we discuss how problems with the postal service may affect tight races. ♪
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talked about early voting in the last segment. some new numbers that are massive. more than 91 million ballots cast, equal more than two-thirds of the entire ballots cast in all of 2016. more than two-thirds of all the ballots that were cast in 2016 in total, two-thirds of that has already been cast in advance. we talked about legal battles around vote by mail with problems of the delivery of the mail itself. two fed ram judges have increased their oversight of the service. just the latest example of the controversy that's involved criticism of the postmaster general and his close relationship with president trump. on friday, ko one of two states where only 61% of ballots were processed by the postal service on time. secretary, thank you for being
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with us. you hear this report iing, as a state that has a lot of practice in this, how confident are you that the postal service is up to the job? >> good evening, anderson. happy halloween. you know we're not hearing about any delays in colorado and a all right part of that is actually we ask coloradoans to stop mailing their ballots last monday and go to a drop box or go in person. but i will say there are delays in other jurisdictions and no american should have to deal with these obstacles. it's so important to encourage all folks to make a plan to vote immediately and make your voice heard. it's likely too late across the nation to return your mall lbal mail. >> we're seeing disputes about
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mail-in ballots across the country. how likely is some of these situations will lead to post-election litigation? >> well, you know, i'm not quite sure, i think it will depend on the numbers, the final numbers as we get through, for colorado, our election is going really well. but i do think that it's concerning that there's all this litigation and the last-minute rule changes and it just underlines the need to have federal legislation. i do think that we need to demand of the congress and the next president that we have a voting rights legislation to make sure that all americans just like coloradoans have the access they deserve. that means vote by mail for all, early voting, weeks of it, hundreds of drop boxes, hundreds of voting centers and same-day voter registration and if we have national standards that protect americans' right to vote we won't have to go through the hundreds and hundreds of lawsuits this year. >> it's exciting to see so many
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people actually voting, obviously, you know, the criticism by the president and some republicans, not all because we just had ben ginsburg, an expert on republican and an expert on elections and on voting processes who said, you know what the president is saying about mail-in voting and voter fraud is completely wrong. that's what you see in colorado. to those who say, well, you can't have all these people mailing in ballots from their homes, you can't have drop boxes everywhere, drive-in voting in places because there's too much voter fraud, what do you say? >> well, i would say colorado's elections are safe, secure, accessible. and we've been doing vote by mail for all early voting, drop boxes and even drive-through voting here in colorado. you know, mail ballots for all have been used in elections
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since 2016, it works. we're not only considered the safest state in which to cast a ballot we're also considered the most accessible. anderson, the point i'd like to make, if you give people access they will vote. right now, we're already at over 85% of our turnout from 2016. we've increased access and i'm just so excited to see coloradoans make their voices heard and also, you know, despite some of the obstacles that we're seeing across the country, we're seeing americans show up and that's just what these to continue to happen. >> secretary, appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. as we count down to election day, plenty of concerns of what might happen in the aftermath. possible contested elections. the president talked today about bedlam in america. more on that when we come back. hey! it's me! your dry skin!
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speaking at one of his rallies in pennsylvania, president trump sounded alarm bells about what might happen after election day. >> we're going to be waiting, november 3rd is going to come and go and we're not going to go and you're going to have bedlam in our country and you're going to have this period of nine days or seven days or whatever it is, and many bad things. >> we brought you those remarks in our first hour tonight, definitely worth repeating.
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examining what might happen in post-election america. garrett graf wrote earlier this month, that several national security experts have been war gaming the election aftermath. garrett joins us now. what are the biggest concerns that your sources have about what a close contested election can lead to on the part of the president and his supporters. >> so, the biggest challenge is this election because of the way the pandemic is changing voting routines is going to mean that the vote count is going to take longer and that there's going to be a period of uncertainty from when the polls close tuesday night through potentially even thursday, friday, or saturday before it becomes clear who the winner of the presidential election might end up being and that period of uncertainty is going to lead to a desire by a variety of actors including
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candidates trying to make false or premature claims of victory as well for instance foreign hackers, foreign nation states who might try to insert themselves into that process to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the election and the fears are those premature claims of victory, perception hacks by foreign actors might lead to instability or unrest in the streets. so it's rally important that voters understand that just because the vote count is taking a while doesn't mean that there's any necessary fear of proud. >> there are two buckets of variables, what the president might do to contest the election and cling to power and all the other things he can do before leaving the office, pardon his allies, fire his critics, any
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precedent for this level of apprehension? >> not in modern times at least. that's poort of the challenge. the next couple of weeks might be very well give americans a real schoolhouse rocks crash course in ahow voting actually works. we're used to know when the results by 2:00 a.m. on election night. that's totally fine that the states build in plenty of time to count votes and in fact, most states don't require a certified total count until the end of november, the beginning of december, as long as voting counts are wrapped up and clear by december 8th, the electorate college can meet on december 14th to actually elect a president. >> politico reported last night the president might keep holding these campaign-style rallies, even after the election, if that
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happens and the race has been called for joe biden, i mean, i'm wondering what signals that will send at both home and abroad frankly. >> yeah, and this is where, you know, we should be concerned frankly that the president and the vice president have not committed to the peaceful transition of power that america counts on as part of our democracy, that party to party, president to president there's always a relatively warm handoff from one office to the next. and there is -- there's real concern that the trump administration if they lose might not participate in the transition process at all and that there are a number of different ways they can muck up government during the 77 days between the election day and inauguration day. >> garrett graff, appreciate it. florida is one of those
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talked a lot about florida tonight. for good reason. it's always close. more on that from drew griffin. >> reporter: a must-win state for donald trump and joe biden knows it. >> if florida goes blue it's over. >> reporter: in a final week blitz, the biden campaign is outspending donald trump on the air waves nearly 2 to 1, its most high-profile surrogate into the heart of the voter-rich i-4 corridor and despite being ridiculed on the right has taken its drive-in, mask-wearing message directly to florida's elderly voters to remind them under donald trump, hundreds of thousands of americans have died from coronavirus. >> donald trump has waved the white flag, abandoned our families and surrendered to the virus. >> reporter: hours earlier before a crowd of defiantly maskless supporters president
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trump declared he was winning the war over the virus and will win florida. >> we're going to win florida, we're going to win four more years. >> reporter: this was the president's fourth campaign rally here this month. both campaigns are now in a decemb desperate final push. donald trump won by a little 1%. considered a landslide. the cnn poll of polls show biden leading, but barely. it shows republican early voters closing the gap. florida political experts say it will come down to turnout among the sunshine state's microvoting blocs. among to keys to watch, a number of displaced puerto ricans vote for biden. can trump convince retirees that
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his response to coronavirus -- >> senior voters, white voters are his base, if he loses too many of them he loses the election. >> reporter: the fact is, the winner may already be chosen in florida, record number of mail-in ballots are already being counted, lining up weeks before this tuesday couldn't wait for election day to make their voices heard. >> it's like, whoa, i'm going to vote. >> reporter: a convicted felon voting for the first time under a new florida law cast her first ballot in 24 years. >> i was like, yes, i'm a full member of society again. >> reporter: she voted for biden. this woman just as eager voted for trump. >> i'm going to tell you exactly who i voted for, i think president trump is the best for the time being. >> reporter: the supervisor of
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elections expect asthma jarty of the results within minutes of polls closing. >> requires all the votes you have from early voting and tabulated from vote by mail have to be uploaded and released by 7:30. we'll probably get those in by 7:10. >> reporter: within a florida projection whether president trump will get a chance at four more years or as joe biden hopes a knockout blow early in the night ending trump's presidency. anderson, kamala harris was in south florida today, joe biden will be here in tallahassee tomorrow and then the democrats are going to send in one of their biggest surrogates, barack obama, back to south florida trying to shore-up what could be trouble in the black and hispanic community undervoting according the one university of florida professor.
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>> drew, appreciate it the news continues right now. turn things over to don lemon and cnn tonight. don? so glad you could join us on this saturday night. this is cnn tonight. i'm don lemon. we'll start with breaking news. this is the final weekend. this is it. the president and joe biden campaigning into the night in battleground states of pennsylvania and michigan. biden rolling out the big guns with the closer and that's his former boss who wasted no time going after the current president. >> he's going around having events, big efshts, no masks, no protective gear, no precautions, what is obsession with crowds anyway? i mean, he e's talk still talki about his inauguration
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