the clock is ticking. donald trump is joe biden are spending the final moments of the campaign season making their final arguments to the american people. why they should lead the country for the next four years. hello, everyone. i'm kate baldwin. thank you so much for joining me for cnn's special coverage of count down in america. we are closing in on a presidential election like no other. just two days left and donald trump and joe biden are campaigning hard in the limited time that remains. they're making a weekend sprint

in key battleground states with biden hoping to win back some of the states that went red in 2016. in michigan biden laid out his vision for a divided country where the cboe pandemic has infected more than 9 million people and killed more than 230,000 people. to move ahead with plans to count mail-in ballots received after election day. listen here. >> this is a terrible thing that they've done to our country. and that's the united states supreme court i'm talking about. that is a terrible political horrible decision they made. we're going to be waiting november 3rd and it's going to come and go and we're not going to know. >> everybody knows who donald trump is. let's show him who we are. we choose hope over fear.

we choose unity over division. we choose science over fiction. and, yes, we choose truth over lie after lie after lie after lie. >> joe biden was joined by some democratic star power on saturday. political correspondent arlette saenz is in michigan with more on that. but first, another trump rally took an unfortunate turn for some of the president's supporters after the president wrapped up his remarks. cnn's ryan noble has that. >> reporter: president trump putting a lot of focus on the commonwealth of pennsylvania in the last weekend of the campaign, and he made a stop here in butler, pennsylvania, and he gave his traditional stump speech encouraging pennsylvanians to come out and vote. but it's what happened afterwards that was a little bit of concern for trump and his supporters. just like the situation that played out in omaha, nebraska, a couple of days ago thousands of trump supporters left the event and had nowhere to go.

there were no buses waiting for them, no lines setup telling them where to go so they could get back to their cars and parking lots and be able to drive home on a cold night. that led many of these supporters to just give up and walk. we saw some supporters walk as far as a mile, 2 miles even 3 miles away on dark country roads that were busy with traffic leaving the event. the trump campaign pushed back on our reporting saying they did indeed have people ready to pick these folks up. they posted a picture an hour and a half after the event let out they claimed as many as 40 shuttle buses showed up to bring people away from the rally. but what we witnessed with our own eyes were a lot of frustrated trump supporters not exactly knowing how they were going to get home. and we've seen this happen after a number of trump rallies where the logistics aren't put in place real well. they seem to be good with getting them in the rally but

don't seem to be concerned with them leaving the rally. he'll be back here in pennsylvania on monday. ryan nobles, cnn, butler, pennsylvania. >> joe biden brought his closing pitch here to the battleground state of michigan. and he made it with the help of his former boss and powerful surrogate, former president barack obama. the two men campaigned together for the first time making three stops here in the state as they took their pitch to voters. the former president talked about his time in the white house with joe biden saying that he is ready to be commander in chief, and obama also criticized president trump, slamming his leadership style and his approach to the coronavirus pandemic at a time when coronavirus cases are rising in states like michigan. and the former president also talked a bit about president trump's rallies and his focus on crowd sizes.

take a listen. >> what's his obsession with crowds anyway? i mean, he's still worrying -- he is still talking about his inauguration crowd being small. although he doesn't admit it. and that's the difference between joe biden and donald trump right there. trump cares about feeding his ego. joe cares about keeping you safe and your family safe and getting this country moving again. >> now, biden and obama spent the day campaigning here in michigan, one of those states that president trump won back in 2016 as biden is looking to re-establish the blue wall. those democratic states that flipped red back in the last election. wisconsin, michigan, and pennsylvania. and pennsylvania is where biden is putting his focus in the final two days of the election. on sunday he'll be campaigning in philadelphia, and then on monday biden, his running mate

kamala harris and their spouses are fanning out across the state of pennsylvania as that state is very critical to biden's path of 270 electoral votes. arlette saenz, cnn, detroit, michigan. >> thank you so much for that. we also have in fresh new cnn polling showing joe biden holding a lead in the battleground states of wisconsin and michigan. they're part of what is considered the blue wall that turned to president trump four years ago. let's bring in cnn political writer and analyst harry henton, kind enough to be up at this beautiful hour with me to go through this. harry, it might be early but the numbers are still important. walk us through these new numbers in wisconsin, in michigan, in north carolina, in arizona? >> sure, kate, and it's a pleasure to be with you no matter what hour of the day it is. look, here's the situation look at the polls. you see joe biden is polling ahead of donald trump in all four of the states you

mentioned. in arizona it's the closest we call a no clear leader because it's a 4 point lead. but then you go to north carolina and you can find a 6 point advantage for joe biden. you go to north carolina you find an 8 point advantage for joe biden and go to michigan and find a double digit advantage for joe biden. and joe biden is polling at 50% or above in those states. and that is a big deal because if you're at 50% and above even if donald trump wins all the undecided the best he can do is tie into those states. and then north carolina and arizona are part of the sun belt in the south, and that suggests joe biden perhaps has multiple pathways to 270. indeed if you add those states to the states hillary clinton won back in 2016 you don't even have to win pennsylvania for joe biden to get to 270 electoral votes. >> you mention anyone still undecided. of course i wonder if there's

anyone undecided considering how many people have voted, and everyone's been voting. and counting is going to start beginning really in two days. but who are are the voters driving these poll numbers? what are you seeing, harry? >> i think there are basically three different divides i'm look at really interesting to me. the first is obviously, and pretty much in all these polls there's a huge gender divide. we're looking at a record gender gap in this election even more so than four years ago. particularly women are moving so quickly towards the democratic column that in a number of these states donald trump has clear leads among men but simply put is not able to overcome joe biden's lead among women. secondly, i'd be looking at white voters with a college degree. that's particularly important in a state like north carolina where joe biden is leading amongst them and, and that's really driving his lead in a state only gone democratic once in my lifetime of course back in 2008 when barack obama carried

it. and white voters without a college degree very important in the upper midwest particularly in the state of wisconsin where you see joe biden he's losing by 10 points less than hillary clinton was 4 years ago, that's more than enough to carry a state hillary clinton lost by less than a percentage point. >> there's also new numbers out from iowa showing donald trump has the lead. what's going on there? >> yeah, i can't tell you how many text messages, gmails, zooms i got about this poll because the poll has a great record in the state of iowa, and that poll does show, in fact, donald trump has a 7-point lead. the previous poll was a tie. look, this looks like their poll did in 2016. if donald trump ultimately ends up winning, we'll look back at this poll and say, hey, there were some hints of it along the way. here's what i will point out, it's just one poll. it's just one poll. the rest of the polls are high

quality polls and show something very, very different. it's one poll. and the other thing i will note is donald trump must carry the state of iowa. joe biden does not. there are a lot of pathways for joe biden to get to 270 electoral votes in the state of iowa. there are very few pathways for donald trump to do so. >> so in the final days of any campaign where a candidate decides to spend their precious time can be very telling. look at where donald trump and joe biden are spending their last sunday of this cycle. donald trump is holding rallies in several swing states including michigan as we were discussing and florida. joe biden is spending his entire day in the critical state as harry was talking about -- pennsylvania starting in philadelphia. joining me right now is cnn political analyst ron brownstein with much more on all this and also the senior editor at the

atlantic. talk to me about pennsylvania, how critical it is. when you see the numbers that harry henton was just laying out with the polling, what are you seeing right now, ron? >> look, after 2016 everyone is chasing polling, and in fact joe biden doesn't have an insurmountable lead enenough states to feel this thing is totally in the bank. but having said that, biden has restored enough strength across the rust belt to lead the president on a very, very narrow ledge. if biden holds all the states hillary clinton won in 2016 he is in a very strong position in michigan and wisconsin. we're talking about a catastrophic polling failure in much bigger margins than last time. he still needs one more state if

that is the case. even if he adds a michigan or wisconsin to all the clinton states. and pennsylvania looks like the best bet although arizona is also in that mix. what we've seen from biden, i think, kate, is a lot of discipline in the map. yes, they are competing in the sun belt states. you see, for example, kamala harris finishing the race, you know, going from arizona to texas to florida to georgia to north carolina, all through the sun belt. but from the beginning joe biden, scranton joe, my hometown, bruce springstein ad out tonight -- he has been overwhelmingly focused on those three rust belt states dislodged from the blue wall, which we go back to 2009. and he has just kept his focus there. and so that is i think is his competitive advantage in this race, is his strength at this point in those rust belt states whatever happens in the sun belt battlegrounds. >> you mentioned texas where kamala harris had went to. you took a deep dive into texas to look at what is happening

there. the state has led the country in early voting, has already surpassed its entire 2016 total turnout in what they're looking at. why do you think we could be looking at a seismic shift in texas? and what do you think it does mean for kind of the map we're talking about beyond the borders? >> it is a seismic shift win or lose because texas really embodies the sharpening divide that we are seeing between kind of metro america that is diverse, that is inclusive, that is white collar and non-metro america which is much more preponderately white, more christian. what you are seeing -- kate, i think what you're going to see nationwide and texas is right at the forefront of this is under trump the republican party is being exiled from the fast growing metros really everywhere that are driving economic growth. the five biggest counties in texas which embody houston,

dallas, austin, san antonio and fort worth. in 2012 obama wn them by a combined 130,000 votes. in 2016 clinton won them by combined 516,000 votes. six times as much for obama. no one will be surprised if biden wins those five counties alone by well over a million votes. harris county could double the margin from four years ago. there may be enough that most people would say there probably are enough rural votes for trump who's going to win them 3-1 to win the state, but it's indicative both of where texas is going and the country is going. pretty much every population center you can draw an imaginary beltway around it, democrats are consolidating within that beltway. republicans remain very strong outside of it. >> it's really interesting the look you took into texas. i was really fascinated by it. there's a new interview out in

"the washington post" that dr. anthony fauci did, and he is warning in this interview that the country is in his words in, quote, in for a whole lot of hurt with coronavirus coming up. and the president at the same time continues to try to convince people that the exact opposite is happening. well, now this is hitting a new level, ron. dr. fauci is saying -- i want to read this about the doctor who the president is now leaning on so much as his new closest advisor in covid, dr. scott atlas. fauci saying this. i have real problem with that guy. he's a smart guy talking about things that i believe he doesn't have any real insight or knowledge or experience in. he keeps talking about things when you dissect it and parse it out, it doesn't make any sense. almost as striking, ron, is the white house quickly responding and attacking dr. fauci saying that he's playing politics with what he's saying. can you just explain to me the political play? because there's a lot of polling showing that fauci is much more liked and trusted than the

president. >> and much more trusted. look, i mean this is what the president does on almost every issue. he doubles down on trying to energize a minority of the country rather than trying to persuade the majority of the country. there may be a third of the country that wants to open up at any cost or maybe a third or quarter of the country opposed to mask wearing as some sort of culture war statement, but most americans believe that you cannot have the economy working until the virus is under control. and the president is simply crosswise with that. the fundamental gravity in this race perhaps more than any other is that 60% of the country consistently has disapproved of the way he's handled the virus. and that's made it hard for him to get his vote above the low 40s. and he's basically sending the public a very clear signal he's given up on trying to protect you, and if you re-elect him nothing is going to be any different. the medium as they said back in the '60s -- the medium is the message here. i think louder than anything he

says on it stage is the way those rallies are being conducted, and that's telling i think voters exactly what they can and cannot expect. and certainly you have to look at a state like wisconsin and say the terrifying up tick in cases is part of the reason why a state we all thought was going to be an absolute photo finish now has the potential to be something considerably wider than that. >> great to see you, ron. thank you so much. >> thanks, kate. so who will win the white house remains a very big question mark. there's also a big unknown. could there be a major power shift in the senate? the balance of power in washington, we're going to dive into that when we get back. and if there was any question about how crucial pennsylvania is just look at the candidates travel schedules. who has the upper hand in this critical battleground state, and what is going on there? stay with us for more of our special coverage. proven ingredients that fuel 5 indicators of brain performance.

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term of president trump or a newly elected democratic president joe biden. here's a quick look at the senate map. for democrats to take over they need a net gain of four seats outright or three seats if they win the white house since the vice president breaks the tie in that chamber. here are the top states where democrats are keeping their eyes for democratic pick ups of republican held seats. you can see all of the races are really -- they span the country, some closer than others but all crucial to who and what party will really wield power come next year. i want to look at one race that's not even making the democrats top five best of chances if you will in the usually reliable red state of georgia. democrat jon ossoff, he's there on the right. he's now in a dead heat with the incumbent republican senator david perdue in an average of polls. the two created some very serious sparks at a debate in

savannah, georgia. >> perhaps senator perdue would have been able to respond properly to the covid-19 pandemic if you hadn't been fending off multiple federal investigations for insider trading. it's not just that you're a crook, senator. it's that you're attacking the health of the people that you represent. >> he'll talk about anything except his own accountability and his own responsibility. the thing i'm most upset about though, he'll say and do anything to my friends in georgia to mislead about how radical and socialist -- >> that is your time, senator perdue. >> let's take a look at another race, maine, where republican susan collins is fighting for her political life right now. the long time incumbent as a tricky relationship with the president and therefore struggles with his base and she's struggling with folks back home. her democratic challenger, she's trying to nationalize the race as many are. making it about senate control, what we're talking about.

but there's also identity politics at play. critics are calling collins out of touch with reality in this country because of this moment at a recent debate. >> senator, 30 seconds for a follow-up here. is systemic racism is a problem here in maine? >> i do not believe systemic racism is a problem in the state of maine. >> and democrats also see an opening in south carolina where jamie harrison has broken fund-raising records like left and right as he tries to unseat the incumbent senator lindsey graham. it is an uphill battle for harrison especially in such a deep red state where lindsey graham has such deep rots, but he's tapping into outrage over graham's hypocrisy over for one thing filling a supreme court seat so close to an election when lindsey graham said the exact opposite before. and also boosting gram's standing among conservatives. a recent poll has graham ahead. but harrison is within striking

distance. that is one to watch. so what really could happen as we look kind of at the broader picture? here with me now doug hie. in david's words, thanks guys and being here. david, let me start with you. i want to separate these into the most likely pickups and then the others that folks are watching. the most likely dem pickups include arizona, colorado, iowa, maine, north carolina. what is it about these races that have democrats so hopeful? is there a common thread throughout? >> yeah, kate, good morning. good early morning. i think one of the things is that you see a couple of those states being now what you call truly purple states. i'm from north carolina. the democratic challenger there, actually kyle cunningham is one of my law school classmates. it went to barack obama and then

mitt romney and now to donald trump. it's a pretty close race there for president. i call it a purple state. same with arizona. you've had democrats and republicans win there in recent years, so the democrats in both of those states have sort of comfortable midsingle digit leads, but i don't think you can say either of those races is in the bag. and a couple of those other states i think the thru line as you said in your setup is this has become in some ways a nationalized race, a referendum on president trump and the referendum on the country in the last four years. in all of those states republicans are having to sort of defend the president's rhetoric and at the same time establish themselves as independent, and that's a tough line to walk when you want to be seen as a loyal republican but not captive by trumpism in a state where trumpism is popular among some and unpopular among others. and that is a challenge for all these republicans even those doing well or ahead of the polls. >> and doug, there are likely

republican pickups. fewer but we're looking at alabama and michigan. what is it about those races? >> well, alabama was the special election for senator doug jones, the democrat won over somebody he was accused of basically dating young women and a lot of other scandalous activities that caused that race to go democratic. of all the races out there that's the one we can say really definitely going to be a pickup. i would agree with david arizona and colorado are likely democratic pickups, but we know republicans are going to win in alabama. in michigan john james is one heck of a candidate running against a pretty lackluster republican gary peters just not known in the state. i didn't know david was law school classmates with kyle cunningham in north carolina. they could never beat us in basketball, never beat us in

baseball. it looks right now he has the edge, but that's a very tough race. and as david pointed out obama won it in '8 and lost it in 2012. both of those times north carolina was the second closest state in the country and it's a very purple state. >> i'm feeling i'm very clearly the odd woman out of this, that i don't have a personal connection to kyle cunningham or -- clearly i'm just not that cool. so david, the other set of races getting attention one of them is georgia. both seats are up and both incumbents are trying to run as hard and fast as they can towards donald trump. biden was just there campaigning this week. what is it with this race? these races? >> there's a couple of things going on in georgia. one is that democrats are still fuming over what happened in the governors race. a lot of people feel with reason that it was stolen from democrat

stacey abrams because of voter suppression on part of republicans in that state. the other is you have two senate races going on at once. you have the perdue ossoff race and the warnock lofler, collins race. republicans are trying to defend a seat with senator lofler who was appointed to that seat. she's not a particularly strong candidate. and in the case of the perdue race, he's an incumbent senator perdue, but jon ossoff came very close to winning the house race in 2017. it's georgia's i believe sixth district. that was one of those early races in the trump administration, one of those early special elections that democrats thought they'd pick up and didn't. but then over time democrats have built momentum in that state. georgia is one of those states that in general democrats feel like demographics are shifting in their favor and they want to turn it blue. i'm not sure this is quite the

year overall for democrats. but georgia is headed that way as is a lot of the sun belt. and i think that's one of the dynamics at play. the other one quick thing is that you have a huge early vote turnout. over 90% already in georgia of their total in 2016, that seems to favor democrats, but nothings in the bag obviously until voters go to the polls on tuesday and all the returns are in. >> yeah, no kidding. doug, real quick, give me your gut. do you think this -- that it's likely the senate will change over to democratic majority? >> i think it's really hard to have a gut with this. two reasons. one, in iowa jodi ernst is in a much better position, the republican incumbent than she was two weeks ago. right now i'd actually bet on her to win. and in georgia with the two senate races you have to get to 50% of the vote to win.

you can't win with 49.9% of the vote. so you could see a runoff in one or both of those elections which means we could have the balance of the senate really hang out there until the first week of january until they have those runoffs. >> crazy scenario there, and then you could look at how long it could be dangling out there for a presidential election as well. doug, david, thank you both. this year to the road to the white house runs right through pennsylvania. why everyone from the campaigns to the pundits are so focused on the keystone state.

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welcome back to our viewers in the united states and around the world. you're watching cnn's special coverage of the count down to the election in america. i'm kate baldwin. pennsylvania could -- could determine who wins the white house. it is one of the biggest prizes of the battle ground map. and for joe biden who was born in the state it's a little bit personal. pennsylvania has 20 electoral college votes. florida is the only other battleground state with more. trump became the first republican to win the state since george h.w. bush carrying the state by a slim margin. it's just over 44,000 votes which is less than 1%. president trump had four events in pennsylvania on saturday showing just how important that state is. joe biden with ilbe there again on sunday. right now according to the polls it appears to be biden with the advantage. the latest cnn poll shows biden ahead there by 7 points. so what is it about pennsylvania? joining me right now charlie dent from pennsylvania, someone

i lean on all the time to better understand pennsylvania. so, charlie, why is this state so critical for both candidates? >> well, kate, it's particularly crit crimin critical for joe biden. i think joe biden really does need pennsylvania to win. just as trump needs florida. and pennsylvania is an interesting state, too, because it is so big and so diverse. and pennsylvania like many other of these battleground states, republicans are really struggling in these suburban communities. and there's been a similar erosion in 2016 and the president doesn't have much of a margin here. so that's why i think people are watching the state. >> on that exact point i'm curious your thoughts on where you think trump needs to do better, where you think biden really needs to do well. but in terms of where the president needs to do better this time versus last time, we know he's losing support as you said in the suburbs especially among women in the suburbs. i talked with some of them

earlier this month in pennsylvania. i want to play for our viewers just a little bit of that. >> i can tell you how i felt four years ago. shame. >> do you regret your vote? >> where we are today, yes. >> i got it wrong and it hurts my heart. i mean it truly hurts my heart because the things that i saw i didn't take seriously enough. >> is there a moment in the last four years when you said i can't do this again? >> the covid pandemic, the way he handled it, it was the absolute last straw for me. he didn't create the virus but he kind of left us all in the dark guessing what was going on, and that wasn't fair to us. >> and charlie, those are all democrat and republican women who voted for trump in 2016 now voting for joe biden. how big of a problem is that for donald trump? >> well, his mishandling of the

coronavirus is an enormous issue. with seniors and i would also argue with women because women quite often are the ones who are responsible for health care in the household. they tend to have a greater interest on the health care issue, and of course seniorerize the most vulnerable and at risk in the pandemic. so it's a huge problem. and i would argue, kate, as a quick prediction, whichever one of these candidates wins north hampton county and erie county is going to win pennsylvania because those are two of the three counties that went from obama to trump. and watch those closely because i think those are the real bellwethers in the state. and i think right now biden is performing pretty well certainly in north hampton. >> in general pennsylvania is a fascinating place. i feel like it's representative of how divided the country is because a piece recently put it's like pennsylvania depending on where you live you inhabit different worlds culturally, demographically, politically. how do you describe that

demographic of the state to someone who doesn't understand? >> i would say there's two pennsylvanians essentially. one east and south of the river. that's like a north eastern state that part of pennsylvania. when you get north and west it's really like a midwestern state. so the philadelphia region probably represents close to 35% of all the votes. then you go out to the next ring where i live in the lehigh valley and that's like the pennsylvania dutch and german belt. and you get out and parts of it look like west virginia and parts of it look maybe like ohio. that's why it's so diverse. the central part up across the northern tier, that's the very republican area of the state where republicans typically overperform and where joe biden candidly is probably not going to do as badly as hillary clinton whose vote collapsed up state. joe biden i think will be marginally stronger. >> got to watch it county by county and we're going to do it together. still ahead for us, pepper

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it was billed as a peaceful march to a polling station, folks trying to get out the vote, then it ended with some getting pepper sprayed by police. watch. this happened saturday in north carolina. demonstrators stop at the courthouse as planned to hold a moment of silence in memory of george floyd, breonna taylor and others. police say the group was blocking a roadway and ordered them to disperse. then officers broke out pepper spray after, well, police say they wouldn't clear the streets. north carolina's democratic party leader calls this

unwarranted police hostility and voter suppression. so there's that, and then there was another campaign confrontation on a texas highway i want to tell you about. a caravan of trump supporters surrounding a biden-harris bus as it was traveling from san antonio to austin. a biden campaign official says the vehicles, they were trying to slow the bus down and even push it off the road. staffers on the bus eventually called in law enforcement to help, which they did. and the biden campaign ended up canceling at least one event due to the incident citing safety concerns. neither biden nor harris were onboard the bus. the biden campaign said this. quote, rather than engage in productive conversation about the drastically different visions that joe biden and donald trump have for our country trump supporters in texas today instead decided to put our staff surrogates, supporters and others in harms way. president trump tweeted about the incident putting it out and

writing, quote, i love texas. and he even brought it up during a rally saturday. >> did anybody see the picture of their crazy bus driving down the highway surrounded by like hundreds of cars, and they're all trump flags over the place. what a group. >> let me bring in right now samantha vinegrad. just your reaction to these kind of incidents that are happening we just saw play out. >> well, kate, if these incidents were happening anywhere in the united states we'd at a minimum be issuing strong statements of condemnation. these actions are frankly dangerous and also undemocratic. voter suppression, voter indimidation, those are illegal. and if the department of justice was led by anyone but bill barr i'd say i'm hopeful these

incidents would be investigated. unfortunately, these may be examples of what's to come. it risk of physical violence as we get closer to election day and in a period if election results are not certified or unclear is very high at this juncture. >> to that point major cities around the country have businesses that are boarding up in preparation for possible violence after the election. i mean, what kind of preparations do you think should be happening right now? how real is the threat do you think of widespread violence over the election? >> the threat of widespread physical violence is very high. we've had a member of the proud boys arrested for trying to -- for aplotting, excuse me, an attack on a polling site. and we have law enforcement at the state and local levels preparing for physical violence at various areas. at voting sites like polling stations we have patrols.

we have a resources, we have law enforcement personnel wearing additional gear in case there is violence. we have intelligence resources ramped up, too, to try to identify different threat streams targeting high value targets like polling sites, for example. and we also have resources to deal with any associated civil unrest after polls close, if results are contested or again not yet certified, we may see civil unrest not only because the president has, frankly, encouraged it with his dog whistles to various extremist groups. physical threats could come from domestic violent extremists across the political spectrum in particular i'm concerned about members of the far right and anti-government protesters. and we also have been warned by the fbi and dhs about the risk of lone wolf actors as well. >> it's great to see you, sam. thank you so much. >> thanks. coming up for us, we're in

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the coronavirus pandemic in the united states is spiraling out of control. the country is seeing a record number of new cases. nearly 100,000 just on friday. friday was the most recorded cases by any country since the pandemic began in a single day. and the top infectious disease expert in the country says things are going to get worse. dr. anthony fauci telling "the washington post" in a new interview, quote, we're in for a whole lot of hurt. adding, it's not a good situation. all the stars are aligned in the wrong place as you go into the fall and winter season with people congregating at home and indoors. you cannot possibly be positioned more poorly. joining us right is a viral specialist in los angeles. thank you so much for jumping

on. do you think dr. fauci is right about how bad it is going to be? >> absolutely. absolutely 100% he's right. every projection, every estimate that has been made has been right on the money, unfortunately. and we're just in the beginning of november now. and with the worst definitely is yet to come especially if people don't heed the recommendations of masks and social distancing. i think he's 100% right. >> dr. fauci also told "the post" in this interview -- the way he put it is that the country needs an abrupt change in public health practices and behavior. i'm wondering at this point this many months in, what does that look like when it is clear that how it's been handled is every state for itself and its own approach? >> well, i believe and i've said

this for a long time that we need a national policy including and now more certain than ever a national mandate for wearing masks. this is not about freedom. we want to have the freedom a year from now to continue with our lives. so it involves a coordination between all states and similar policies, but gnat is not going to happen until we have clear and concise leadership on the federal level. that's what it should look like. >> you know, the president says that the country is turning a corner just at the very same time you hear this from dr. fauci. she's saying the exact opposite from what experts are saying. and he also said something just on friday about doctors on the front lines that really cannot be ignored, dr. rodriguez. and it really should not go unchallenged either. let me play this for you and get your reaction. >> you know, our doctors get more money if somebody dies from covid. you know that, right? i mean our doctors are very smart people. so what they do is they say i'm

sorry, but, you know, everybody dies of covid. >> just your reaction to that. >> well, what a moronic asinine, divisive thing to say. it's been criticized the whole world of the united states from the american medical association down to all physicians. listen, physicians have spent all their lives and pledged to help people. we go into rooms when people are -- have tuberculosis, have hiv, you know, now have covid. we don't say, hey, we have bone spurs, we can't go in. i'm being sarcastic but this cuts right to the core of who we are as doctors. and this rhetoric is undermining yet one institution more and that is of the medical profession, but it goes beyond that. it is undermining really the sacred trust between doctors and their patients by just spouting

forth these fallacies. >> no, doctor, i was just going to say i was also beyond the president's words when he said that at a rally i was struck there were people in the crowd going along with it and booing and just like you said creating this distrust between -- the sacred distrust in what is really a sacred relationship between a doctor and their patient where the white house is accusing dr. fauci of playing politics with his interview with "the washington post." it is clear that the president is when he makes statements like that. >> absolutely. and, you know, some trump supporters will agree to %-p, kate? when the president was sick, boy, there was a helicopter on the white house lawn immediately to rush him to where? walter reed hospital to be treated by whom? by physicians and doctors. so this is really just bupkis,

if you will, but it's dangerous. we get insulted but we're too busy taking care of people to stop and pay attention. because for us it's saving lives and helping people that matters. that's the bottom line. >> and that's where the focus should always remain. thank you, dr. rodriguez, for coming on. i really appreciate it. stay with us, everyone. we have more of cnn's special coverage, the count down to the election in america just ahead. y supplements- neuriva has clinically proven ingredients that fuel 5 indicators of brain performance. memory, focus, accuracy, learning, and concentration. try our new gummies for 30 days and see the difference.

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election day in america. the final days of the most unusual campaign season are upon us. and with just two days to go we're seeing donald trump and joe biden weaving through the battle ground states. here's where they're campaigning on this final weekend. there is understandably a huge focus on a handful of states including states like michigan, pennsylvania that they clearly want and need in some circumstances to get to the white house. to get to 270. here's what the candidates were saying just on saturday. >> you know the job we've done? you are so lucky that i'm your president. you are so lucky. pennsylvania, you are so lucky. you'd better get out and vote on tuesday. >> there's nothing he can do to stop the people from voting in overwhelming numbers and taking back this democracy. it's time for donald trump to pack his bags and go home. >> millions of americans are

showing up already. more than 91 million americans have already cast ballots. by the mail or in person. it's really remarkable. as the campaigning nears its end, there is no escaping, though, the pandemic. the cases are rising in most states over the last seven-day period. just look at the map. that is not good. more than 81,000 reported on saturday. one day after america saw the worst single day total anywhere in the world. nearly 100,000. and reporting over the weekend there normally is a dip in reporting over the weekend. we have to wait almost fearfully to see what it looks like come monday. amid all of this, the nation's top infectious disease expert, dr. anthony fauci, not only with a warning but taking a shot at another member of the coronavirus task force. telling the washington post the virus could get much worse this winter. the united states could not possibly be positioned more

poorly is how he put it. he also had this to say about dr. scott atlas who has become president trump's real de facto top co-vid adviser at this point. dr. fauci saying i have real problems with that guy. he called atlas a smart guy who is talking about things that i believe he doesn't have any real insight or knowledge or experience in. dr. fauci goes onto say he keeps talking about things that when you dissect it out and parse it out, it doesn't make any sense. the white house responded very quickly saying this. it's unacceptable and breaking with all norms for dr. anthony fauci to close three days before an election to play politics. he says as a member of the task force, dr. fauci has a duty to express concerns or push for a change in strategy, but he's not done that. instead, choosing to criticize the president in the media and make his political leanings known. the candidates, meantime, are

fighting for their political lives. they need 270 electoral votes to win. joe biden? well, depends on the math at the moment. the way it looks if all states hold, that we're blue before he looks closer. he has more paths to 270 than donald trump. you can see which states lean to the democrats, which lean republican, and which are most in play. right there. cnn chief u.s. correspondent john king has the latest polling numbers from the battle ground states. >> some important new battle ground state polling three nights out. in three nights we fill this one in red and blue. let's go to 2016 and use the clinton template. four of them. west to east. arizona, this would be a big deal. donald trump carried the state four years ago. you see by 3 1/2 points. biden 50. four points is close. biden on top in a state the president needs to win to win

reelection. joe biden hoping suburban voters give him a huge victory. north carolina, again, a big part of the trump win four years ago. a three-point race there. right now, a 6-point lead for joe biden. this is significant. over 50%. donald trump at 45. trump campaign says they're having a late surge in north carolina. if you're the biden campaign, that's an encouraging poll. the midwest, this is what made donald trump president. pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin. michigan tonight? look at that. a 12-point lead for joe biden. he's above 50. the most significant part is that, an incumbent president stuck in the 40s. hard to make up ground late if you're the incumbent. a troubling number for the president. you move next door to wisconsin, again, a 12-point lead for joe biden. the president is stuck in the mid 40s. look how close this was. 22,000 votes and change. four years ago, joe biden with a healthy wisconsin lead medding into the final days.

one more poll. we want to show you this. it's an important state. the donald trump campaign will be happy with this. the iowa poll out tonight, it shows the president with a 7-point lead. other polls have been closer. some with biden on top. the trump campaign insists the rural voters in the midwest will come out on election day. >> let's focus on two new polls released overnight. in pennsylvania, a poll of likely voters has former vice president biden leading trump 51 to 44% n. there's a margin of error of 4%. in florida trump is ahead by two points. it's too close to call. it's anyone's race right now. let's get perspective at the end game. talu, saturday was spent in pennsylvania for the president. the president hitting the road again today. what are you hearing from the

campaign on what their specific goal is in these last couple days? >> yeah. as john said, at this point they are not trying to convert undecided voters. they're trying to rally the president's base. the president is holding multiple rallies across the country. yesterday he spent a lot of time in pennsylvania in part because that state is going to be incredibly important for either side whoever wins is likely going to have to do well in pennsylvania, and they're trying to juice the president's turnout among his base. they know in the record early vote we've seen so far, democrats have an advantage and president trump has been telling his voters to turn out on election day to turn out this quote, unquote, red wave. they're trying to energize the president's supporters, get them to turn out in huge numbers and make up for a deficit they're facing with the democratic record side. they're trying to create enthusiasm, speak directly to the president's most hard core

supporters, not necessarily trying to win over suburban voters or people undecided. the president is delivering red meat to supporters, trying to get them enthusiastic and trying to get them come out to vote on tuesday. >> i was going to ask you about the president talking about the red wave coming. i was kiers you where you think they are getting the confidence from. since there is just inherently so much we don't know because of the unprecedented levels of early voting that has already happened. >> both candidates, both campaigns are flying blind at this point. they've never seen anything like this when it comes to the huge amount of early votes. we could have 100 million people who have already early voted by tuesday. and neither campaign will know how much of that vote is already banged. how many of the voters would have voted on election day but now they're staying home. president trump is banking on the fact that he believes a large number of his voters haven't voted yet, are waiting for election day, are going to

overwhelm the early vote that democrats have put up in pretty large numbers of in key states. it's a really major gamble, because nothing -- anything can happen on election day. some of the voters could stay home. there could be rain, president trump believes the red wave is coming and so many of his voters have waited. they were skeptical about the mail and are going to turn up on election day like they have in the past. if that happens they could defy the polls and do better than expected especially in pennsylvania, florida, and iowa, the polls show the race within shooting distance for the president if not, he would be in a position where he could make up ground in the final day. >> yeah. absolutely. it's great to see you. thank you so much. >> thank you. joe biden, he has promised voters that if he wins the election, he will reembrace u.s. allies and put america back into international agreements like the paris accord.

president trump has spent the last four years trying to make good on his campaign promise of america first. what has the trump foreign policy looked like over the last four years? if you look at north korea, president trump, well, he can't say enough about the beautiful letters from his friend kim jong-un. but biden says trump gave kim what he wanted, a meeting and a sense of legitimacy. the president claims no one has been tougher on russia than he has, and sanctions against russia from the united states have been severe. trump has never publicly criticized vladimir putin for putting bounties on the heads of u.s. troops or interfering in the 2016 election, and attem attempting to do the same in 2020. trump also started major trade war with china. he's hampered beijing -- hammered beijing over the coronavirus, blaming china repeatedly at every campaign stop for the pandemic. and accusing the world health organization of being an

accomplice. what does foreign policy look like at this point and come the new year? let's discuss it with our foreign policy and national security columnist for the washington post. josh, foreign policy has not been front and center in this election. regardless come the new year, what is the most pressing foreign policy issue facing the white house? >> it's clear no matter who wins, they will enter the next term of the presidency facing a world in severe crisis. the number one issue right now is the coronavirus pandemic. and what the trump administration does -- has done is remove the united states from the community of nations working together on that pandemic. that is what top biden officials tell me repeatedly will be their first order of business. to bring the united states back into the w.h.o., but also back to a business leading the search for a cure and the cooperation

to stop the spread. that will be what we call the low-hanging fruit because that's in everyone's interest. after that, if joe biden wins the presidency, he faces across the board a bunch of really difficult issues that have only become only more difficult since president took office. north korea, syria, iran, afghanistan. these are tough problems and although the world will surely welcome a biden presidency after the attitude that trump and america first brought, that doesn't make any of the problems any easier to solve. >> i am curious, and t impossible to know, of course, if joe biden wins, what we're going to see coming from the white house is clearly going to be a different approach to foreign policy. that goes without saying. if donald trump is reelected, in your experience, how does a second term foreign policy agenda different from a first? >> joe biden's advisers say they

will build the alliances back to then confront china and other authoritarian regimes. what we usually see in second term presidents is the true insikts of the president come out in the foreign policy. so for ronald reagan that was actually a little bit more of a detente and friendly sort of more open policy when it was george w. bush, we saw a freedom agenda. with donald trump we know what husband insingt is. it's the mag ga instinct. we'll see maga on steroids. that means he's likely to replace all the officials in his national security bureaucracy, traditional conservatives with the real maga people. and that means real america first, you know, more trade protectionism, more rolling up of u.s. responsibilities and bases abroad. less international cooperation. less multilateral organization

participation. imagine the struggle between the old republicans and the trump republicans is over and in a second term, the trump republicans will rule the roost. >> yeah. i have to say, josh, you've done great reporting on china's election interference methods. i'm struck at how it almost seems that people are so desensitized to this. is this something that americans, i don't know, need to get used to, or what would it take to change it? >> we should never get used to foreign governments interfering in our elections, especially the countries that are our adversaries like russia, china, and iran. the problem is the president of the united states in 2016 when he was running for election welcomed the russian interference and magnified it. in 2020 his minions, including, especially giuliani, have welcomed and magnified and assisted the russian interference again. so they want you to become

desensitized to it. giuliani wants us to think of russian interference in our election as just what happens but it's not what happens. it's not good, and we need to stop it. the chinese interference is more complicated. the chinese government seems to favor biden, but there are some working with rudy and steve bannon who favor trump. you have chinese interference on both suds of tides of the elect. that's crazy, but it's true. and that's why we have to not make the rule that okay, interference is good when it helps me or helps my side. we have to bind together as a country and decide that foreign interference is bad and we have to stop it, much less, aid it and abet it as the president's team is doing right now. >> you put a spotlight on it. thank you so much. it's good to see you. >> any time. coming up for us, a historic turnout for early voting across the united states as americans brave long lines and the pandemic.

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americans are making it clear, they want their voices heard, and they have voted early at historic levels. more than 91.6 million people have now cast ballots either absentee or in person according to researchers. there's a huge number. more than two-thirds of the total votes cast in the last presidential election. both texas and hawaii have already surpassed their 2016 turnout totals with -- we can't even call it election day anymore. obviously it's election day every day until counting with counting the election day still two days off. with all those absentee and early votes, election night results may not look like they normally do, especially if margins are close. when will we know who has won? john avalon looks at that.

>> what will we know and when will we know it? florida, arizona and north carolina will tell us a lot about what election week looks like this time next week. that's because their early votes will be counted ahead of election day. pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin were keys to victory in 2016 winning by 778 -- 78,000 votes. but the swing states will not start counting early ballots until election day. in pennsylvania all votes postmarked by election day will be counted as long as it's received within three days but wisconsin cannot. and in michigan, many early votes won't get counted until election day and officials are saying it could take three days for the full count. in many of the states the democrat's edge could increase as mail-in votes are counted. it's called the blue shift. and it's legitimate.

this is already the most he tijous election ever. it's all a reminder that nothing is reordained. keep cool, but remember the right to vote is really the fight to vote. and democracy is on the ballot. and that's your reality check. >> john, thanks so much. if there is a delay in the final result, how do the campaigns handle that? let's bring in scott jennings and hilary rosen. thank you for being up to talk to me about this. let me play, scott -- >> where else would we be, kate? >> i pushed you to wake up and promised you alcohol after. let's play how the president talks about this concept, scott. let me play this. >> on tuesday, november 3rd, i think this group wants november 3rd. results election day. of course, now that our united states supreme court has delayed

everything, it should be a very interesting evening, and i wonder what happens during this period of delay with the ballots. i wonder what happens. are they going to find more ballots, mr. congressman? are they going to find more ballots? can you imagine what happened? can you imagine just be careful. be vigilant and watch and report whatever you see. >> he continues to tell -- suggest to his supporters that if we don't know by the end of the night november third, something is wrong. why is he doing this? >> truthfully, i don't know. because there been ballots counted after the election happened in 2018. it happens in a lot of elections. now, some states will certainly have a quite high percentage of their votes counted on election night like florida, for instance, i think is a state that i'm watching that will tell us a lot about where the next few days are going. but the reality is some states are going to need time to count. i do think he's always been worried about what happens with

the voting system in america. he thought even after he won that he was cheated out of certain votes in a lot of places which i'm not sure was the case. i think he's always been nervous about this. i am not sure there's a need to be nervous, and i'm optimistic we're going to have a free, fair election. >> hillary, real or perceived, this creates real tension about this delay of time before the country sees the full result. as scott laid out, the way the things are -- the way states have changed the rules, the way that ballots are -- how many early votes have happened, things are going to potentially move slower. if there is this delay, and donald trump is creating this uncertainty and this attention, what does the biden campaign -- what should they be doing about this? >> it is important to distinguish between early and mail-in voting.

pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, they're not going to count their mail-in ballots until tuesday. but if you're voted in person, that registers on a machine. so there will be a lot of ballots counted on election day. but look, you know, i think what's going to happen on election day is what happened in this country for the last four years. essentially everybody else has to be the grownup in the room while donald trump has temper tantrums and the grownups in the room right now, i think the biden campaign are counting on it being the networks, the social media platforms to keep lies off the platforms. you know, i'm looking at fox news, not to indulge crazy trump ranting. so i think the rest of the media, the rest of the country are people like scott jennings and the president's allies on tv, are going to have to work overtime to make sure that

people perceive that there is time to count these ballots and to have a fair election. >> yep. scott, you've been involved in many a campaign and many an election night. what is the wait like for both campaigns? what is it going to be doing this entire time? >> election day is a frustrating day. everybody you've met throughout the course of the campaign calls and says do you have any results or any information that literally only you would have and you'll share with me, random caller, because i called you and asked for it and say you fend off these calls. and you wait. now, you do have election day get out the vote operations going, and you're looking at the data that you have coming in, who has voted, who hasn't, which is depending on the state, actually fairly available and fairly refreshed throughout the day. so you're hoping and you're working that your final get out the vote plans are happening. and as was pointed out by the

president in his remark that you played, kate, republicans are expecting a huge turnout on election day. if you look at the polls and all the states, republicans by and large would like to vote on election day and trump needs a huge surge on election day. you'll be monitoring if you're on the republican camp to see if that surge happening? are our people turning out? >> hillary, i thought it was interesting. yesterday the biden campaign announced that he's going to be -- the way they put it, addressing the nation on tuesday night. does that suggest anything since it seems more than likely no one is going to know the result by the end of the election by then? >> well, i think the campaign is preparing for joe biden to start to talk to the country on tuesday night in a calming and reassuring way, and if we have -- if we have chaos, that's going to be reassuring. if we don't know what the vote tallies are, he's going to keep

people engaged and enthusiastic. remember on the west coast, if you don't have the polls closing until late, it's always been an issue for people on the east coast to try and jump the gun. we want those people on the west coast to vote. there are a lot of local races that matter. so i think we are going to hear from joe biden at some point tuesday night even if we don't hear results. he feels like that is part of his job is to start to calm this country down, heal this divide, and talk to people with real facts. >> stand by to stand by friends. it's good to see you. thanks for getting up. >> thanks, kate. still ahead for us, under fire over the facts. facebook is trying to fight misinformation with an army of fact checkers, say they, why some trump supporters are so upset with them about this. that's up next.

welcome back to our view us in the united states and around the world. thank you for joining us. facebook has come under fire over misinformation flowing freely on its platform. the social media giant has hired fact checkers to liable information as false. many trump supporters feel their posts are coming under undue scrutiny. listen to this. >> facebook has fact checkers too. you could call them that. >> anything i put on there about our president is generally only on for a few minutes and then they're fact checking me saying this, that and the other thing

which i know is not true. their fact checker is wrong. >> i don't -- the fact checkers, i don't trust them. >> i understand why there are people who don't like fact checkers, because we take away something that they believe in. that we challenge it. and so the natural reaction is to think the fact checkers must be opposed to me. we're not. i've been concerned about how people openly talk about the need to get their guns and take action against the government or against a certain political party. even if it's just one tenth of one percent of the people. don't take it personally if your content is fact checked. consider it a service. open your mind. question this. >> fascinating. that reporting comes from cnn politics and technology reporter

mr. oh sullivan. what else are you hearing from the fact checkers about this? >> yeah, kate. controversially, facebook does not fact check politicians. they can fact check anybody else, but mark zuckerberg stated policy here is we do not fact check trump. we don't fact check any politician. that means that politicians, if they want, and that have, can spend millions of dollars on ads on facebook targeting voters with misinformation. but everything else the third party fact checkers have what one described to me as the nightmare facebook feed. it's a customized feed with all the misinformation circulating or a lot of it on facebook, and they're fact checking it. that fact checker we spoke to is a former cnn employee, but we also spoke to another fact checker who also works with facebook. and both of them said at the

me moment, there is more misinformation on the right than the left. and one of them said a big reason for that is because of president trump. president trump puts so much misinformation out there, so much lies and mistruths that a lot of that gets echoed and parroted by his supporters and other people on the eco system. that's contributing to a lot of the false information on the right. >> and that's why i kind of wonder if you think the fact checkers are doing enough. because we hear so much about how much misinformation is on a platform like facebook. >> yeah. i think they will tell you they're not doing enough, that they can't do enough because there is so much misinformation out there. it's difficult to quantity, and since 2016 we've all spent an awful amount of time talking about the role of foreign interference in american

elections and we know in 2016 that russia used social media to push misinformation, but i think certainly from what we can see right now, so much of the misinformation happening now is domestic, and it's coming right from the top. it's coming from the white house, and there are sort of three buckets of the main sort of misinformation we're seeing. what is what is trying to undermine the election. you've seen trump and as you mentioned in the last segment saying the results are going to be false or the election is going to be rigged in some way. we've also seen a lot of false and doctored videos. a lot of them from the trump campaign trying to make side biden look senile in some way, and finally the qanon conspiracy which we're seeing a lot of. >> and you're tracking it all. donny, thank you very much. great reporting. president trump has been called the disrupter in chief. now a new report that some

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the campaign confrontation on a texas highway. a caravan of president trump supporters surrounded a biden/harris bus as it was traveling from san antonio to austin friday. a biden campaign official says the vehicles tried to slow the bus down and even push it off the road. staffers on the bus eventually called in law enforcement for assistance which they did come and assist. the biden campaign did cancel at least one event due to the incident citing safety concerns. neither biden nor harris were on board at the time. the biden campaign put out a statement saying this in part, quote, rather than engage in productive conversation about the drastically different

visions that joe biden and donald trump have for our country, trump supporters in texas today decided to put our staff surrogates, supporters and others in harm's day. president trump took note of what happened, and he tweeted about the incident with the quote just only saying i love texas. he even brought it up during a rally saturday. >> did anybody see the picture of the crazy bus driving down the highway surrounded by cars. trump flags all over them. what a group. >> there's that, we also know we may not know for days who wins the election. which leads to the question what will president trump do? according to a new york times report, many current and former administration officials are worried about that very thing. what the president could do from allegations of voter fraud to

moving to use the national guard. to even pushing foreign governments to intervene. one anonymous fbi official is quoted as saying, we are all hands on deck for the foreseeable future. cnn contributor michael dantonio is the author of accou"the trut about trump dts. michael, thank youing for bein here. the president has played coy over a peaceful transfer of power. even before this piece, trump could very well cause serious chaos before election results are known. how do you think he'll handle that delay from when the polls close and when the final results and votes are counted? >> i think he's given us a forecast of what he wants to do by the chaos you see at that

incident in texas. you know, i sort of think of what happens around the campaign and around his base of support as an expression of the president's intent. he's been priming people to expect challenges to ballots being cast as they're counted. and protests from him and his side that will ingo on and on. if he doesn't get the result that he wants, i don't think there's any extreme to which he won't go. >> let me read kind of to what you're talking about, let me read some of the reporting of the times about this. they say this. no matter how the votes split, there's an expectation among officials that mr. trump will claim some kind of victory on november 4th, even if he claims

it was hijacked by fraud as he falsely claimed that hillary clinton's 3 million vote lead in the popular vote was the result of millions of votes from unauthorized immigrants. this could come in conjunction with statements supported by carefully chosen facts that the election was indeed rigged as he's long been warning. after millions and millions of votes are counted and yes, elections are not always announced the results are not always announced the same day. look at what happened in 2018. how likely is this scenario? >> well, i think it's almost guaranteed that he will do as much as we can imagine and then do something beyond that to confuse the situation, to give people the sense that what's happening is not legitimate. and this is the thing that the president has done his entire

life. he never engages in the contest that right in front of them. he fights a fight that's about the rules or it's a fight about whether things are fair. and i've been thinking about this, and i think the people experience enough unfairness in their own lives that they're sort of primed for this message. so if someone comes along, it is like a conspiracy theory, and says this is rigged, there's something secret and terrible going on, there are a lot of people who are ready to believe it. >> michael, thanks for coming on. i appreciate it. >> thank you, kate. you could not possibly be positioned more poorly. that is from dr. anthony fauci. his take on where the country stands right now in the coronavirus pandemic. what does that mean for the weeks and months ahead and what should the united states be preparing for in this moment?

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staggering new coronavirus case numbers in the united states lead to one conclusion. the country is not handling the pandemic well at all. still. john's hopkins counts more than 9.1 million cases in the past nine days. the u.s. posted five of the highest daily case counts ever. there were more than 99,000 new cases on friday alone. that's the most in any country on any single day since the pandemic began. doctors are worrying figures like that will translate to a big jump in hospitalizations and deaths. the nation's top infectious disease expert is warning of grim weeks ahead. dr. anthony fauci telling "the washington post" in a new interview we're all in for a lot of hurt. he adds it's not a good situation. all the stars are aligned in the wrong place as you go into the fall and winter season with people congregating at home indoors. we could not be positioned more

poorly. several european nations are trying to stop surging coronavirus cases with new lockdowns and restrictions. life in china is looking more relaxed. let's get to the latest updates. david culver, melissa bell, and sal ma in london. >> this country is coming to terms that england will enter a four-week lockdown starting thursday. people will be asked to stay and work from home. schools will remain open. this is an about face for prime minister boris johnson. he's a leader who vowed over and over again there would not be a lockdown. the question is is this enough at this time? >> in paris, we're on day three

of a strict second nationwide lockdown that essentially means you're not allowed to leave your home or only if you're going less than a mile and for under a an hour unless you have a special piece of paper explaining why it's necessary. lockdowns in portugal and other countries. designed to bring your surge in coronavirus figures back under control. the world health organization, this continent is the epicenter of the pandemic, and we're seeing positivity rates above 20% in some countries. it's a second wave that's faster and wider than during the first. >> live in shanghai. a contrast here in china compared with what you heard from melissa and other parts of the world. people more and more relaxed. mask policies quickly eased and people feeling more comfortable

and trusting state media, that the central government has the virus under control. there are exceptions. the western region of china, they're dealing with a clusterout break. the way china touted their dealing is by essentially controlling things with mass testing, contact tracing, and, of course, some of the isolated lockdowns but the reality is most masks we saw in shanghai were halloween masks. >> thank you all so much. i appreciate the updates. joining me now is a professor of emergency medicine at oregon health and science university. doctor, thank you for being here. first, i want to ask you about the record levels we saw of new cases on friday in the united states. just nearing the 100,000 mark that was so feared and people thought was a point that would not be reached, could not be reached. how could it? now we're so close to it. what is your reaction to that? >> it feels unbelievable. i mean, i never thought we'd be

here in the fall. for a long time didn't think we'd be here. it seemed like at some point over the summer the message was getting out. people were taking up face masks. and that we were going to be able to go into the fall well prepared for the flu season and potentially in a position to be able to celebrate some of these fall and winter holidays. instead, we're at the exact opposite. worse than we were at the very peak earlier in the summer. every day we're breaking records which is just not the direction you want to be going into. so we are indeed, in bad shape and hospitals are becoming overwhelmed once again. we are back here where we never wanted to be to begin with. >> absolutely. and dr. fauci mirroring what you're seeing when he said all the stars are aligned in the wrong place as you go into the fall and winter with people congregating indoors, you could not possibly be positioned more poorly. he also says, doctor, the country needs an abrupt change right now.

i'm curious as to what you think an abrupt change would look like. >> yeah. i mean, i think what the hope was was that we could get lots of people to do little things. and that would win. i mean, the things we've been asking for for months are small in the grand scheme of things. wear a mask. keep your distance from people. try not to have large indoor gatherings. of course, it's hurtful to have to delay things like weddings and things, but if you can elect to do so, please don't do those things, and now it's been hard for people to do even those things, to consistently wear masks, i think people either don't believe the recommendations, don't think it's that serious because there's been a lot of messaging, especially from your administration that it's not that serious, or they think like many people do that my one little action doesn't matter to change the whole picture. whatever it is, we're not getting consistent action. so, of course, as we're seeing in other countries, if we can't get people to do these little

things that we have to do escalating measures. but i do think the main thing is a massive turn around in the consistency of the public message which just simply has not been there for the entire past month. >> no. especially when you have -- when you read what dr. anthony fauci is telling "the washington post" and not putting politics on it. the president of the united states speaking to thousands of people saying that we're turning the corner. i guess the next line is he's not being clear with them what corner we're turning which is to a worse place. doctor, thank you very much. >> thank you so much, kate. all right. i'm kate bolduan. our special coverage of the countdown to election day in america continues after a quick break. want to brain better? unlike ordinary memory supplements- neuriva has clinically proven ingredients that fuel 5 indicators of brain performance. memory, focus, accuracy, learning, and concentration.

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two days and counting. donald trump and joe biden are in the home stretch and getting ready this sunday morning to crisscross america to squeeze out every last vote in this dramatic race. hello, everyone. thank you for joining us for cnn's special coverage of the countdown to the election in america. the coronavirus pandemic is exploding in record numbers with two days until the 2020 presidential election wraps up. the question now facing every voter is which candidate. donald trump or joe biden can best lead the country through and out of this crisis? and voters are clearly fired up and answering.

early balloting has eclipsed what was seen, what it was in 2016. and president trump and former vice president joe biden are hitting hard the battle ground states. biden has two events in philadelphia on sunday. the president will visit five states from florida to michigan. pennsylvania's 20 electoral votes are shaping up as really critical for the president and for joe biden despite being down in the polls, donald trump says he feels good about tuesday. >> the numbers the way i look at them in pennsylvania, i don't think we're going to have to worry about it too much. okay? and florida. and ohio and lots of others. north carolina is looking pretty good. did you see that? this is no longer the fake suppression polls. wisconsin is great and we won it last time, and we had a poll come out.

i'm up one and down one and even. this crazy stuff, but it's within this area. i think we're doing much better than that. i think we're way ahead. >> joe biden is focussed on what people are -- consider the blue wall, typically leans democratic but trump blew through that four years ago. barack obama joined biden saturday in michigan and warned democrats not to repeat the mistakes of 2016. >> these shouldn't be republican or democratic values. it's what our parents taught us. they're not white values or black values or latino or asian. they're american values. and we have to reclaim them. but to do that, we're going to have to turn out like never before. to reclaim what's best in this

country. we can leave no doubt. we cannot afford to be complacent. >> nationally joe biden has a ten-point lead in the poll of polls but forget the number. it's not national numbers that matter. the state contests are what counts. the state contests are how you win the 270 electoral votes to get to the white house. biden is leading several of the most important. michigan help put trump over the top in 2016. he won by less than 1 % four years ago. a new poll has biden with an advantage. it's similar in wisconsin, a state crucial to trump's 2016 win is now leaning biden's way. cnn's poll shows a tighter race in north carolina with biden leading by six points, and it is essentially neck and neck in arizona within the margin. on tuesday all roads could lead through another battle ground state, pennsylvania.

john king maps out the scenario. >> we elect a president, let's start with the trump map four years ago. in the four cnn polls if joe biden flips, holds the clinton states, the blue and flips arizona, north carolina, michigan, and wisconsin, he had leads in the polls, then joe biden is the next president of the united states. he could win without winning pennsylvania or ohio or florida. flip those four states, the polls out tonight show him ahead and he's the winner if he holds the other clinton states, but let's look at this from a different perspective. a lot of gold on this map. only the solid trump states and solid biden states. anything that leans we put into tossup. let's say that iowa poll is a hint and the trump campaign is right. they're going to surge on election day and win that. if you're winning iowa and you're a republican, that's plausible. let's say florida, georgia stays

in the republican fold and texas, and let's say he overcomes the lead in arizona and keeps that. come across the board, add north carolina. that's a bigger one. let's say in this scenario trump comes back and gets that. let's pause. let's say joe biden holds the clinton states. that means he holds new hampshire, minnesota, colorado, and the trump campaign fighting for nevada. let's say joe biden holds onto that. we have two congressional districts on the board, one in nebraska and one in maine. joe biden is leading in late polls in both. let's say there's a surge in the midwest and the former vice president winning maine big holds onto that one. now where are we? now our polls are significant. if they're right and the double digit lead here and here, where does that get you, 259 to 259. there's a reason trump made four stops in pennsylvania today. there are plausible scenarios where this comes down to the

commonwealth of pennsylvania and if it's close on election day, we already know the trump campaign is ready to go to court all the way to the supreme court if necessary. again, this is a big if. but it's not impossible. and we have two new polls just released overnight in pennsylvania. washington post abc news poll of likely voters has joe biden leading president trump 51-44. it has a margin of erer ror of 4%. in florida president is ahead of biden by two points, within the margin of error. in the last two days more than 180,000 new co-vid cases reported in the united states. the nation's top infectious disease expert, dr. anthony fauci, warning that the country is headed into in his words, a whole lot of hurt as cases and hospitalizations and, of course, eventually deaths, rise. dr. fauci is slamming the white

house's response to the pandemic singling out the medical adviser who now has the president's ear, dr. scott atlas. dr. fauci telling the washington post this, i have real problems with that guy. he's a smart guy who is talking about things that i believe he doesn't have any real insight or knowledge or experience in. dr. fauci says he keeps talking about things that when you dissect it out and parse it out, it doesn't make any sense. the white house later accused dr. fauci of playing politics in a statement, and atlas also fired off a tweet which i guess is how he responded with multiple hash tag insults like insecurity and embarrassing himself and can't throw a ball, i think in reference to his throwing an opening pitch at a baseball game and also no time for politics. when there's a lot of politics going around. a whopping 91 million ballots have been cast in this election. both in person and by mail.

so the question now is whether the final campaign blitz by the candidates will have what kind of impact it will have next tuesday. with us to discuss is cnn political analyst nathan gonzalez, editor and publisher of inside elections. it's great to see you, nathan. thank you for getting up with me. talk to me about just kind of what this kind of -- i don't know, open warfare just days before the election, what kind of impact this can have. >> because of the early voting numbers you cited, i think any late breaking news event over the couple days will blunt the impact of any late breaking news event. you have 90 million plus. we're going to have 100 million plus who voted before tuesday. so we love to talk about october surprise. now it would be a november surprise. i'm just skeptical that the late news events.

you have to remember the vast majority of americans have already decided whether they like the president or not, and whether they they're going to vote for or against the president or not. so opinion as hardened around him. >> yeah. but co-vid and how -- voters i have spoken to, so ko vid has not only it's the most important thing they're dealing with in their lifer, but it's also the biggest thing impacting their vote. at this point from what you see, is this election anything other than a referendum to the response to the virus at least in part? >> i think these are the consequences of the president i would say not taking this in a serious and consistent way, because we're talking about co-vid. right? because of the rise in cases and because of the outbreaks around the country, we're talking about co-vid where we're not talking about any number of issues that might be more beneficial to the president. we're talking about the middle east peace deal and he wants to talk about the economy and how he -- what he did on the economy

before co-vid, but because of the rising cases and the personal toll that it's taking on the country, and americans, it's the biggest news event, and this is not the issue he wants to -- he should want to be talking about. the majority of americans have according to the polls show that biden, they trust biden more to handle this issue. >> we were talking about how close it is in florida and how all eyes are on pennsylvania. i'm curious your thoughts on which group of voters especially when so many people have already voted, which group of voters do you think the states, it's going to come down to in these states? >> well, kate, the dirty secret about close races is everyone matters. i mean, it would be easy for me to talk about left-handed suburban women or hispanic voters or seniors, but it's everyone matters. and that's why -- and you're not going to know how close of a race it is until we get to the end and start counting the ballots. i'll say this about

pennsylvania. i believe those polls that show that vice president biden has at least a narrow advantage, because there was a call about a week ago where republican congressman mike kelley who represents western pennsylvania was talking about how well the president was doing in his district. he was saying oh, the president was up nine or ten points. i think he was relaying that as strength for the president. the president won his district four years ago by 20 points. almost -- he's doing -- he's underperforming 2016. that's where -- that's the type of district the president needs to run up the score to account for the loss he's going to see in southeast pa in the philadelphia suburbs. >> if you watch anything, listen to nathan and also get ready to get very comfortable and familiar with all of the counties in areas of pennsylvania. we're going to spend a lot of time talking about that. thanks for coming on. >> no problem. coming up next, senior

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over the course of the late election season, i've been talking to different groups of women voters about what matters to them in cycle, this election. i've talked to women in pennsylvania, michigan and in this report i went to new hampshire. i spoke to older women voters, and they are voting this time like their lives depend on it. because with the pandemic, it does. and they have a message for the president and the country. >> so at 78 years old what drives you to stand on a street corner in the rain, in the cold, to get your face out there? >> we really want to win. if people don't see us, they're not going to know to vote for us. >> jane is a new hampshire

democrat. she's spent her entire life certa serving otherss a a nurse. now she's running for elected office for the first time. >> i had no idea what to expect to begin with. now with co-vid, we can't knock on doors, so we're relying on phone calls and yard signs. being an old lady, i'm not all that steady on my feet. so i'm okay with not knocking on doors. >> has president trump factored into your decision to run? >> probably. probably. because it just gets worse and worse every day. and i think senior citizens, for example, all marginalized people are at risk. >> a vast majority of the coronavirus deaths in the country have been seniors. here in new hampshire 96% of those killed by co-vid have been 60 and older. that weighs heavily on the women we're talking to. on their lives, on their vote,

and also on how much they think the president sees their value to the country. >> i'm very concerned about the pandemic. i am 77 years of age. i live with a woman who is 75 years of age. we do not want to become ill and die yet. we're not ready. >> what do you think of the president's handling of the response to the pandemic? >> oh, there has been no constructive action that he has taken whatsoever. >> donald trump says, essentially, don't worry about the virus because only older people are getting it. how does it make you feel to hear that? >> excluded. expendable. that we don't matter, and if we get it, and we become very ill,

it doesn't matter that we might need ventilators and be dead in two days. >> co-vid as far as i'm concerned, that was the main decider. i'm a diabetic. i'm 72. i'm compromised. i do not have any desire to get it. >> karen is a mom, grandmother, and small business owner in western new hampshire. she's also a die hard republican. >> i was 18 when i registered as a republican. >> have you ever voted for a democrat before for president? >> no. absolutely not. this is the first time. i've already voted. i voted absentee, and i voted for biden. >> how would you describe the last four years for you under president trump? >> exhausting. i find it absolutely exhausting. the insults, the things that he said about the african nations. the things that he said about

musli muslims. it's just not me. if trump wins, the very next day i am going down to the city hall and registering as an independent. after 55 years. >> people are anxious, and they're anxious for the election to be over. >> this 66-year-old state senator is up for reelection. she says even beyond covid-19, this election is different from any other. how important are older women voters in this election? >> you can always count on us to show up and vote, and you can count on older women to also do the grass roots campaign work, too. >> do you think it's fair to consider age in a decision of who to vote for as president? >> on this election, i don't see where it makes much difference,

because they're both older people. >> what would you say to a voter who says jane, you're too old to run? >> i say watch me. >> joining me right now, maria, democratic strategist, and also the senior project. cnn political commentators. thank you for being here. >> good morning. >> it's been fascinating to speak to women voters throughout the past month across the country. one thing i've heard from all of them who are voting against trump is the word compassion. that is what is missing in the past four years. is that everything for the biden campaign right now, that view? >> that is a big part of biden's closing argument. not just his closing argument but essentially what his opening argument was, too, in terms of this is a fight for the soul of the nation. and a big piece of that is we have lost our empathy as a

country. we have lost our decency as a country. and the people who care most about that, kate, we saw it in your great piece, are women. and it's across all kinds of issues. health care, of course, is key, especially for this cohort of women who are older, and frankly, are the ones who manage health care for their families, but it also on the economic scale, is huge. this pandemic, kate, has made women lose ten years of progress economically. over 816,000 women have had to leave the work force as opposed to only 216,000 men, and so when you have a president at his rallies who talks about co-vid, co-vid, co-vid, making fun of it, and you have a group of women who are ones feeling the brunt of it, and then when you have a president at rallies telling ladies saying hey, little ladies, we're going to put your husbands back to work,

are we in the 1950s? compassion, versus chaos, right? competence versus chaos, and clarity versus chaos, i think is a really strong closing argument for joe biden, especially when it comes to this incredibly influential group of voters. >> look, tara, we know the three of us, that women are most important on all things, but when it comes to this cycle, women voters, how important are they? let's say for the trump win? >> incredibly important. women vote at a higher proportion than men anyway. they have since 1980. and it's the crucial suburbs that have been collapsing for donald trump since 2018 where suburban women have said enough is enough to maria's point. if you heard during your piece, some of the terms the women used y, they said they were exhausted. they felt excluded. that they want matter.

they were sick of the insults. these are all aspects of the trump presidency that many americans particularly women, are fed up with, and do not want to see the leadership of the country led by someone who behaves the way donald trump has. and there's really no way to avoid co-vid as much as trump wants to. he can't. women are often the heads of households who make the decisions when it comes to health care, health care is still an incredibly important issue. the republicans had an opportunity to do something about it. they haven't. despite donald trump's promise of two weeks, we'll see a health care plan. it's been four years. we haven't seen anything. these all factor into women saying this is not the america we want. these are not the policies we want. and donald trump is not the leader that we think should lead the country anymore. and 53% of white women voted for donald trump last time. you're not going to see that level of support this time

around. >> and maria, we've talked a about latino voters are not monolithic. hereto are women. white women, black women, older women. there's a lot of complexities. has either campaign done a good job at getting at that? >> i think what the biden campaign has focussed on is just all the issues that women care about as we just talked about, as heads of households, and what the biden campaign i think has done a really good job of doing, is instead of breaking them down in silos, talking about the issues that are important to all women. you know, tara mentioned this. white women have not gone for a democratic candidate since 1996. right? and it has been women of color who have really come out in droves for candidates that have

won. and what we're seeing this cycle is that you have not just women of color, latino women, black women, coming out in droves for joe biden. there is a gender gap with both of those groups. but white women are also now starting to be added to that group. and -- >> tara -- >> sorry, maria. >> tara, real quick, what republicans need to do to try to win women back if they're losing them with donald trump? >> well, i warned about this after 2016, that the republican party would have a generational problem with women if they did not check donald trump and his misogyny and his behavior. we're seeing that now. if you look at the reason why republicans lost the house in 2018, it was driven largely by suburban districts where women voted -- women candidates as well, who took out republicans. and women voters have said enough is enough.

so if the republican party wants to continue to be a major party, they need to reject the white house nationalism, the populism that this party of immorality, supporting donald trump is not going to do it. women are not going to put up with this. it's up to the republicans, what their future is going to be, because qanon, conspiracy theories and insults and the lack of science, these types of things women are not going to stand for. they wouldn't put up a five-year-old child acting this way. why would they put up with a president acting this way, and the republican party needs to make the decision if that's the leadership they want their party to have. >> i'm curious about exit polls and the data after all of the votes are cast to see what women are saying with their votes this cycle. it's great to see you guys. thank you. >> thank you. president trump may call russian election interference a hoax, but it's all too real and takes on many forms with many

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republican -- welcome back, everyone. you're watching cnn special coverage of the countdown to election day in america. i'm kate bolduan. a campaign confrontation of a texas highway. a caravan of president trump supporters surrounding a biden/harris bus as it was traveling from san antonio to austin friday. a biden campaign official said the vehicles tried to slow down the bus and run it off the road. staffers on the bus eventually called law enforcement.

they did come and help and assist. the biden campaign ended up cancelling at least one event due to the incident, citing safety concerning. either biden nor harris were on board at the time. the biden campaign put out a statement saying this. quote, rather than engage in productive conversation about the drastically different visions that joe biden and donald trump have for our country, trump supporters in texas today instead decided to put our staff, surrogates, supporters and others in harm's way. president trump was also commenting on it. he took to twitter. he tweeted out about the incident, quote, i love texas. and then brought it up during a rally saturday. >> did anybody see the picture of the crazy bus driver on the highway surrounded by hundreds of cars? they're all trump flags all over. what a group. >> look, aggressive supporters on a highway aren't the only

security concern as the election draws to a close, for sure. if former director of national intelligence said last week the intelligence community is certain that russia is going after the elections again. and trying to undermine confidence in american democracy. he also said the nightmare scenario is americans will think their candidate was denied a legitimate win. which could then lead to violence. joining me right now is david sanger, a national security correspondent for the new york times. it's good to see you, david. you've had great reporting we've discussed before about how russian intelligence uses donald trump's own words. they don't even have to make anything up themselves to put misinformation out there and dry to interfere. when i saw this video, i wondered this very thing, david. >> well, could be. i mean, we'll have to see whether or not that video gets repeated today on rt and through

their facebook channels and other places. but a few things have changed in this cycle, kate. we're not seeing the kind of direct effort that they tried in 2016 to fake american personas, to create somebody on facebook that you think is your neighbor and so forth. instead, they have been taking president trump's own words, particularly about mail-in ballots, repeating those, amplifying them and trying to get that more into the mainstream conversation and hoping it will come out of the mouths of more and more americans, making it easier to do this channel without being blocked inspect on the direct election interference, we have not seen right now a lot of hacking directly into systems. but the next 48 hours, obviously, are going to be critical. we've seen the iranians do more

in an odd way than the russians. >> when you say that you've seen -- it's different from four years ago, does different mean more or less attempts at interfering? >> fewer attempts in the direct hacking into systems. in 2016 we saw the russians go into the democratic national committee. we saw the russians go into john podesta's emails. we saw the mails get published. we haven't seen as much of the hack and leak. people are trying to investigate whether or not the hunter biden material that you've heard so much about is real or manufactured, and -- or a mix of the two, and i don't think anybody is coming to a conclusion on that yet. what we have seen, however, is the a-team of russian hackers, a group called energetic bear that has frequently within the u.s.

energy grid has redirected the efforts in the past two months and is going into state and local governments. now, so far they've only hit election sites incidentally. california and indiana. two not battle ground states. one of the questions is do they use that access to move laterally? another theory u.s. intelligence has right now is that the russians are actually holding their fire to see whether it's a close election, and then would step in in the influence campaign presumably to help president trump if there was a big argument about recount. and that's why there's so much discussion of perception hacks, small hacks that get blown up into something bigger. >> now, that sounds even more terrifying than what you normally lay out for us, that scenario that you're talking about right there, david. thanks, david. it's great to see you. thank you for your reporting. >> thank you, kate. great to be with you, and get

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welcome back. president trump has had numerous opportunities to lay out his vision for the next four years if he wins. he's been asked numerous times. he's really never laid it out. just listen to this. >> what are your top priority items for a second term? >> well, one of the things that will be really great, the word experience is good. i always say talent is more important than experience. >> sean hannity asked you about

your second term and the left was upset. they said he wasn't sure what his second term is about. let's do a retake on that. what is donald trump's second term? what's the main focus? >> i didn't hear anybody was upset, but it's simple. we're going to make america great again. >> i asked you a question in wisconsin, and you got criticized for the answer. i want to ask you again. you're now asking america in 117 days to give you a second term as president of the united states. what is your second term agenda? >> well, first, i didn't know i was criticized for that answer. first, defeat the invisible enemy, and we're well on our way. >> so there's that. the closest we may have to a second term agenda may be coming from steven miller telling nbc news the next four years of a trump administration would showcase an even harder line on immigration. let's talk about this. joining me is michael share,

washington correspondent for the new york types and sabrina, a national politics reporter for the wall street journal. it's great to see you both. thank you for getting up. appreciate it. michael, what have you gathered is the trump agenda for a second term? >> look, i think if you think back a couple weeks to after they pumped president trump full of steroids at the hospital when he went in for co-vid and how manic he was kind of in the days after that, i think it's a metaphor for his second term. it would be the first term on steroids. it's immigration, but even more of it. it's zen phobic rhetoric, but even more aggressive. it's fighting with allies over the course of another four years. it's trade wars with china and other countries. you know, he's going to double down and triple down on the policies that he pursued over the last four years.

i think anybody who thinks they're likely to see anything significantly different than they saw over the last four years is sort of kidding themselves. >> yeah. and hasn't been watching the last four years if we're being blunt about it. right? and sabrina, do you get the sense the white house is just fine not having articulated what the goal is for them next? that they -- i don't know, don't think it matters? they don't care? >> well, they've been getting by for about four years doing much of the same, if you think about a lot of the major policy debates that have taken place under president trump's watch, they have ultimately concluded without any real resolution, because this is a president who has declined to really involve himself in the process of legislation or deal making on capitol hill. the only major legislative accomplishment that republicans have seen has been the tax cuts they passed in saying he signed

into law at the end of 2017. otherwise on immigration, on gun control, on other issues that came before this president when he did try and convene lawmakers at the white house and make a big show of how he was pursuing, perhaps, some kind of deal that hadn't been made under his predecessors, he ultimately walked away from these processes because he's been unable to focus on anything other than hirms and on the media coverage of his administration and of specifically of his presidency. so i think you're going to see a lot of the same in a second term. but one of the differences will be that he hasn't really faced any consequence. oftentimes he's been met with criticism by members of his own party, but he hasn't really had any pushback beyond just rhetoric or a few statements given to media about how they hope he could focus not only tweets but on some kind of legislation and agenda. so i think that he'll probably use his executive action to try and push the boundaries as he

has done before, and on immigration as you're pointing out, stephen miller laid out an extensive agenda that seems to go further than the first time. >> stephen miller executive action is likely going to be used heavily when you talk about immigration. cnn has new reporting that despite the president suggesting often that he may not allow for a peaceful transfer of power should he lose the election, mark meadows, cnn's reporting and others at the white house are coordinating with the biden campaign to get those preps underway for what is a legally mandated transition of power should that come to pass. do you think people should read into that? >> well, i mean, look, there's sort of two levels of -- that go on in parallel at the same time. two levels of effort. one is that there is inside the government which is obviously sprawling and has a lot of career officials and the like,

there is an effort that is sort of happening every four years and the government sort of kicked -- that kicks in no matter who is in the oval office. i think the concern really is less at that level, but it's really the president and what his reaction is going to be during the two and a half month transition if biden wins, and i think nobody quite knows how much the president, the current president, president trump, how he will react, what he will attempt to do both in terms of pushing a kind of last-minute agenda through and also stopping or attempting to stop or put in place land mines for the biden transition, and i think the clash between donald trump and his political agenda and the more professional kind of civil servants in the government that are going to try to put a transition together, that's what will be interesting to watch. >> yeah. you can definitely see those two

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the state of michigan is breaking new records for daily co-vid cases. nearly 3800 infections in the past 24 hours. that's the total to more than 178,000 cases since the pandemic began. with co-vid surging in michigan and really, across the united states, the pandemic remains a huge issue in the election. it colors everything that the two candidates discuss, propose, and promise. keep in mind michigan shocked a lot of people when the traditional blue state went for donald trump in 2016. but will it be a different story this time? there you see the latest poll numbers. i want to bring in dr. abdul al

side who is an epidemiologist and public health expert, and also we have a former communications director for the republican national committee. doctor, how has coronavirus impacted battle ground michigan this election, would you say? >> i'll tell you this. it's issue number one, two, and three. we've lost thousands of people in this state. and our lives have been altered substantially. and because of the ho refforts governor has taken, -- this has shaped the conversation everybody is having with her. whether or not we can have thanksgiving with our family or whether or not our kids will be able to go back to school in january. these are the conversations that everybody is having. it frames the entire debate about this election, and it has become a conversation about who can take on this pandemic and bring it to an end faster? >> just to remind folks, it was a slim margin.

10,704 votes made the difference for donald trump in 2016 in michigan. one of the big problems was a lot of people sitting out the 2016 election who had voted in previous elections in michigan. do you think the campaigns have done enough that that doesn't happen again this time? >> yeah. i think we certainly see that with early voting throughout the nation. and usually when you see a surprise win by such a slim margin, it's because a party has been caught napping. think about barack obama winning north carolina and indiana in 2008. republican parties in those states were snapping. four years ago a democratic congresswoman was telling the clinton campaign, don't ignore michigan. they did ignore michigan, but democrats aren't doing it this time. that's why it looks like it should be a good night for joe biden in michigan. >> and so many folks, doctor, say that this election is a referendum on donald trump.

health care was such a defining issue in the mid terms in 2018. how much of a defining issue, even beyond co-vid is health care in michigan? >> well, it's impossible to see health care outside of co-vid because nationwide about 5.4 million people and counting have lost their health care because of the pandemic and the fact they lost their jobs. and then there's the fact that the supreme court which has just been packed with amy coney barrett is set to hear a case that could decide whether or not the aca remains constitutional and the law of the land. so we really are voting for the president who is going to set the debate and set legislation for the future of american health care, and we see how critical of an issue that is in a moment where 230,000 americans have died, many more have gotten sick, and many more are worried about losing their livelihoods and insurance. again, it's almost impossible not to see health care outside the context of this pandemic.

it's an issue that everybody thinks about and everybody is worried about. >> absolutely. doug, you mentioned barack obama. biden was on the trail in michigan with obama this weekend. i wonder what you think his impact -- i'm going to get to that in a second. but first, what do you think the impact of barack obama is in helping joe biden in the state? he stumped with hillary clinton at the end of the campaign as well. it did not -- notably not in michigan, but it did not help her out. >> yeah. look, it's a very different circumstance. hillary clinton was so disclieked by so many americans who voted for donald trump in part because they wanted to vote against hillary clinton. but barack obama is a rock star in the democratic party. it's not a surprise to see him on the campaign trail. for me, the real surprise is that we hadn't seen michelle obama doing any kind of events in the last couple days. she is the most popular democrat in the country bar none, and that we haven't seen her in a couple swing states surprises

me. >> what also surprises me is being able to sink a three-point shot just on camera before you walk out onto stage. i mean, i know you both probably have immense basketball capabilities, but this happened in michigan when obama was -- about to go on stage with biden. that's what i do. your deep thoughts, doug, on the abilities? >> look, it's a great moment. it's obviously one of those things that makes people feel good. if we missed it, we wouldn't have seen it. he made it, so it's great. >> there you go. doctor? >> well, look, i'm more of a football guy. but i'll say this, that there's a space where politics meets culture, and obama fit that extremely well. >> i will see the wolverine loss yesterday wasn't good for my family. >> thank you very much. i appreciate it. that's a wrap for us.

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it is the final stretch in the fight for the white house. >> this doesn't seem like someone who's going to come in second. do you agree? [ cheers ] >> it's time for donald trump to pack his bags and go home. >> on november 3rd, we must finish the job and drain the swamp once and for all. >> we choose hope over fear. and yes, we choose truth over lies. [ cheers ] >> reporter: u.s. confirmed coronavirus cases have now surpassed nine million. >> we now have one person being diagnosed of coronavirus every second. >> our nation is plunging into a terrible