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itizen could not; forced to wait in jail nearly a year. voting yes on prop 25 ends this failed system, replacing it with one based on public safety. because the size of your wallet shouldn't determine whether or not you're in jail. vote yes on prop 25 to end money bail. hello, everybody, i'm john king in washington. thank you for sharing your day with us. one more day of campaigning, tomorrow america picks its president. the consequences are enormous and obvious. a choice between two fundamentally different men. different roots, world views, and takes on a pandemic that is just about surging everywhere. the monday map is lit up with
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stops in important battleground sta states. joe biden in ohio and pennsylvania. president trump checking off four states, north carolina, pennsylvania, wisconsin and michigan. both vice presidential nominees busy with a final day focus on pennsylvania. barack obama helping the democrats turn out votes. he makes stops in florida and georgia. the early vote number is enormous. look at that, ballots cast so far, 95 plus million. it's important to remember those record numbers are also votes for senate, for congress, for state houses, judges. look at the polls and two things are clear on this monday. joe biden has the chance, a chance for a statement election one that would carry him to the white house and likely also imperil the republican grip on the senate. two, the president sits today in a worse position than the final monday in 2016. but another trump surprise is not out of the question. the coronavirus tops the issues list and that is a drag on the
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incumbent whose take on covid has been frankly wrong in defiance of fact and science from the beginning. a record breaking sunday yesterday, 81,000 new cases added yesterday. the daily number of infections now averaging over 80,000 per day. that number nearly doubling over the past month as the president tells the american people we have turned the corner. the president stopped doing his day job on the virus a long time ago, experts are exasperated because infections are exploding. so much so that dr. anthony fauci praised joe biden's response. a crowd last night calling on the president to fire fauci and the president not exactly saying no. >> fire fauci. >> don't tell anybody but let me wait until a little bit after the election. i appreciate the advice. >> so let's use the final day
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2016 map to talk about the final day here in 2020, this is how it turned out four years ago, let's walk through some of the stakes in this election. joe biden can be the next president of the united states if he holds his lead in pennsylvania, michigan, and wisconsin. that's all he needs. rebuild the democratic blue wall right there. trump can carry the rest of the trump states, joe biden would be president of the united states. however democrats see an opportunity. joe biden ahead in arizona, ahead or close in florida, georgia, and north carolina. democrats see the possibility here of a statement election if, if all those states break late. but what if like in 2016 it is the president who closes. it is the republicans who turn out in massive numbers on election day? let's look at it from a different perspective. if the president holds florida, a georg georgia, and north carolina. as the president holds those and ohio, look what you have here.
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no matter where there's a congressional district in nebraska and maine they wouldn't matter in this scenario if president trump wins pennsylvania he wins re-election. if joe biden wins pennsylvania, he is the next president of the united states. on this final day, joe biden is trying to stretch the map. we have cnn reporters deployed across key battleground states right now. let's get to the road. we have jeff zeleny who is with joe biden on this morning in cleveland. suzanne who is with president trump in north carolina. jeff, i want to start with you. i want to pop up ohio on the map. this was not close four years ago, 52 to 44. yet joe biden coming to cuyahoga county, cleveland, trying to turn out voters on election day. tell us why. >> you know what kind of voters are in cuyahoga county, democratic voters. four years ago, hillary clinton carried this county by 30 percentage points. joe biden is coming here to try
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to essentially seize on what's happening across the country, the suburban vote. there have been, you know, certainly suburban women here in cleveland, columbus, cincinnati, other cities across ohio who turned against the president. they saw it in 2018. african-american voters as well key to any democrat in ohio. they are coming here to try to seize on what could be an advantage to them. but then gets back to pennsylvania, not that far away as the crow flies, and everything is it for joe biden. they know they need to hold pennsylvania, those 20 electoral votes so important. also a place he announced his presidential candidacy. he ends it tonight in pittsburgh. he believes he speaks to pennsylvania voters. we'll see if he does or not. it's so important as we think back to four years ago, how slim the margins were in pennsylvania, in michigan, in wisconsin. and this is something the biden campaign believes they have an edge here among voters, a, who
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didn't come out four years ago, and, b, who were turned off by this president. but there is enthusiasm on the trump side as well. you can feel it in ohio. it would take a bit of a lift for joe biden to win ohio, everyone realizes that. but he's not leaving anything on the table. this is only the second time he's been in ohio since the general election campaign. i can't recall a time when a democrat is visiting only for the second time on the eve of election day. john? >> it's an excellent point but a statement to go there and some say it's a risk to go there unless you can prove you can get it across the finish line. let's go to suzanne, as i do i'm going to flip the map and come to where you are, in north carolina. let's bring up fayetteville, cumberland county itself carried by hillary clinton four years ago but around it a number of what i call trump counties, where he cannot only turn out votes to win but turn them out in big numbers.
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>> you're right. if you look at places like fayetteville, gastonia, greenville, hickory, those are the places he's come back over and over, time and time again. those are the places he has to win and donald trump up the voters to come out tomorrow and support them to get us out to the polls. it was back in 2016, it was just days before the election the polls show that hillary clinton was winning by three percentage points while trump turned it around and he won by 173,000 votes. this was also the state that gave barack obama his big win -- not so big win, slight win, the 14,000 votes he needed to top that. this could go either way. the poll gs showing perhaps biden has a little bit of a lead. but trufmp knows he has to get the voters out. he's traveling from north carolina to scranton,
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pennsylvania, onto michigan, milwaukee, wisconsin, kenosha, grand rapids, michigan before he returns to the white house. one of the things he has got to make sure is he does get the rural vote. those people to come out. he is suffering when it comes to the polls from women from the high-tech business when you look at a place like north carolina, it really is kind of a cross-section and symbolic of what is happening in this country, you have voter of the population increasing dramatically with young voters, with hispanics, with asians, those in the college communities, the high-tech areas. the president is bleeding support when it comes to suburban women, so he needs to make sure, as he did in 2016, that he trounces biden with the rural voters. john? >> a little saturday night playing on a monday morning. a lot of excitement in the final
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days. suzanne, thank you. joining me are dana bash. one of the things you notice is candidates run a campaign and they like to end, essentially when they began. >> um-hum. >> together we are taking back our country. we are returning power to you, the american people. with your help, your devotion and your drive, we are going to keep on working. we are going to keep on fighting. and we are going to keep on winning, winning, winning. >> we learned a long time ago every generation has to fight to keep the democracy. i never believed we'd have to fight this hard, though. i never believed it would be this much in jeopardy. >> the interesting part is joe biden consistently, this is about character, the soul of the nation, decency in government. donald trump trying to sound like 2016 donald trump at the end of 2020 but he's been the incumbent for four years, the
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question is can he pull it off? >> that is the question. one of so many questions. we've covered campaigns where the candidates' messages aren't that consistent, generally those candidates don't win. but this is a case where the closing messages of both candidates mirror what they said for joe biden when he decided to get into the race, saying that it is in his words for the soul of the country. and you can even go back to the president, then private citizen, donald trump coming down the escalator in trump tower, the message back then is almost identical to what it is now. that also mirrors the stability of the race. you know, despite all of the chaos in this country over the past, you know, 18 months, particularly since the general election started in the ernest. it has been stable when you look at people who talk to the pollsters. the question is who's going to
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turn out. which is why you're seeing the sprints across the key battleground states. >> we know issue number one, two, three, is the coronavirus pandemic and all the related leadership questions and economic questions that flow from the pandemic. both candidates in the end talking about it, but so, so differently. take a listen. >> we're going to have a safe vaccine that ends the pandemic. without it, it's rounding the -- i say, it drives them crazy, it's rounding the turn. you turn on the news, covid, covid, covid. >> we're going to beat this virus. we're going to get it under control. but the truth is, the truth is, to beat the virus, we first got to beat donald trump. he's the virus. >> talk about election choices being clear. the president saying things that
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aren't true, we are not rounding the turn. 80,000 new infections a day is not rounding the turn but that's his hope to tell people all is well, tough it out. >> we can't underestimate how much people who love donald trump believe what he says. i witnessed it when i went out to talk to his supporters in western pennsylvania last month. talked to people who did not vote in 2016 for him and are registering now to vote because they believe everything he says. i met somebody who on text is parroting what he is saying about fraud in mail-in voting and things that aren't factually correct. but that's the world in which we're living. more broadly if you talk about the coronavirus, this is the pandemic election. if you look at the screen, 95 million people voting. i mean, that is because of where we are, because of people having to make choices to vote early
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but also because of the energy based on not just donald trump but the very difficult world that americans are living in. >> yet, help me capture this, democrats look at the numbers and they can't believe their eyes because they have the opportunity to make a statement election. it's not just the polling, 60% of the american people think the country is going on the wrong track, the president's approval rating is 45%, incumbents don't win in those environments. yet democrats see the opportunity, remember 2016, have jitters and in some cases it's worse than that. >> it's pts, no question about it. every democrat will admit that. i'm sure your conversations go about the same way. it's because we have not seen a politician like donald trump in our lifetime. he is the incumbent president and he is running like the outsider, like the disrupter, he's running like he did in 2016. it's in part because, and his advisers will tell you this and have told me this in the last couple days, that's all he knows
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how to do. he's not the kind of guy that feels comfortable talking about the accomplishments which the republicans are banging their heads against the wall wishing he would talk about. he's running as somebody who's trying to gin up the anger, frustration and the fear among many americans. it worked in 2016 and the answer we don't know yet and we won't know for maybe a couple days, hopefully tomorrow, is whether it's going to work again. >> if we're going to know tomorrow, it'll be because of florida, north carolina, georgia and maybe arizona. if we have to wait it's because the president won those states and we're waiting on pennsylvania, michigan, and wisconsin. >> if we have to wait. it's okay. it's based on the laws in the states how they count the votes. >> we stock pile water, coffee. recommend you do that at home as well. despite what the president says it's perfectly fine. if it takes time we'll count the votes. coming up, the campaigns
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making the final sprint through the battleground states. a flash back. the final monday four years ago. >> think about it this time tomorrow we'll be filling in the map, the red and blue counting the votes, can donald trump win without pennsylvania? yes. is it conceivable, not really which is why pennsylvania is getting so much attention. (♪ ) keeping your oysters growing while keeping your business growing has you swamped. (♪ ) you need to hire
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lists. working to turn out those who did not vote early. the big states help the most when you try to cobble together 270 electoral votes but in a close race, ten year, four here can make a difference. let's start with adrienne broad dis. in minneapolis. >> across the state, more than 7 million have already voted. the prize here, 10 electoral votes. president trump wants to turn this state red. many of the people in line to vote behind me say they didn't want to risk sending in an absentee ballot, especially after the late ruling last week by a federal appeals court saying all ballots must be received by 8:00 p.m. on election day. that lawsuit which was initiated by republicans upset some young activists but they tell us that lawsuit was an example of how much weight their vote carries.
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>> i think because they start to see, man, they'll go all the way through the courts, four days before the polls close to change when we can turn in our ballots, this is serious. if we sleep on this and lose the election, it's possible that our ability and rights to vote will be impacted by that as well. >> reporter: secretary of state filing a motion at the state level to challenge that decision. refusing to go the supreme court route. let's send it to my colleague martin savage in iowa. >> reporter: in iowa, here in des moines, they are still early voting. this polling place here when the doors opened there were hundreds of people already waiting in line. and since that time the line has grown longer. estimated wait here, about an hour and a half. iowa setting records when it comes to early voting. possible by the end of the day today, close to a million will have already cast their ballot.
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that's important to note because the secretary of state is expecting about 1.5 million in total to vote. they could begin opening the mail-in ballots over the weekend, today they can begin tabulating all the early votes. so when the polls close tomorrow night, this state will already be ahead of the game when it comes to tabulating its votes. six electoral votes at states. now polo sandoval, new hampshire. >> reporter: here in new hampshire, it feels like it's the day before the day. here in london derry new hampshire we've watched poll workers come together and do the partial preprocessing of the ballots, it's a process that entails opening the exterior envelope and inspecting the affidavit envelope, that's what contains the ballot itself. not only does it give them a head start in processing all of the ballots that have been received by state officials but it allows the folks to look at
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each envelope to make sure the affidavit envelope is signed and it was properly submitted. so far this morning only about 30 of those envelopes have been flagged as having potential issues and potentially being rejected. what happens next, the officials reach out to the individual voters and give them an opportunity to rectify the issues. they know every vote counts with 4 electoral votes up for grabs in new hampshire. and in 2016 hillary clinton winning by less than 1%, it remains a competitive state. >> my gratitude for the live reporting. the scene behind polo very important. a lot of dedicated people, volunteers, doing the right work. don't listen to people who tell you we can't have the count last. up next we break down another critical state. the stay of play in battleground
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senator rick scott of florida. say he knows a thing or three about winning close races in battleground florida. we want to take you to battleground pennsylvania. senator kamala harris. >> joe understands the significance and responsibility of our government in one of its core functions which is to concern itself with the public health and well being of the american people. that's why he and president obama pushed for the affordable care act. and what is joe con going to do? expand the affordable care act, expand on its success, bring down prescription drug prices. joe knows. when we're talking about health care, look, the body doesn't start from the neck down it's also the neck up, that's called
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mental healthcare. and joe is deeply committed to doing that work, because he knows that it is just as simple as what should be necessary if we value the point that access to health care should be a right and not just a privilege of those who can afford it. joe knows that -- >> senator harris speaking there, lucerne county, pennsylvania. you see it here. that's just one, pull it out more. key to the trump victory four years ago, battleground battleground florida. it helps if you can get florida's 29 electoral votes in your column. let's talk to somebody who understands close elections in florida. president trump was there last night in miami-dade. rick scott was there, senator scott joins me now. i'm grateful for your time. you know a thing or three about winning close elections in florida. your race for senator and both
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your races for governor were within a point. where is is state of play on this final day? >> well, it was fun to be at the rally last night. there was a lot of enthusiasm. it's all about getting the vote out. these last few days you're trying to figure out how are you going to get everybody out to vote. i know there's a lot of enthusiasm for trump, i think there was 20,000 people there at midnight. that's impressive. people in florida care about the economy. they know that's what trump's strong suit is, that's not biden's. we are not for high taxes. we're for lower taxes in florida. we know biden wants the biggest tax increase ever. i think what obama did with castro is horrible for people thinking biden is going to hold dicta dictators accountable. he said he was going to start negotiations in venezuela. if you look at the issues, it's
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going to give trump a big leg up in florida. >> i agree with you that those issues could work if the president can navigate issue number one, which is the covid pandemic. i'd like your sense on that. if you look at the polling data, the suburbs, florida increasingly which you know from your days as governor and senator, florida becoming a suburban vote. and the seniors. the polling tells us joe biden has a lead there, including the state of florida. i want you to listen to a snippet of the rally you were at last night. dr. fauci gave an interview saying the president was only focused on the economy. he said joe biden has a good health plan. this came up at the rally last night. listen. >> you turn on the news, covid, covid, covid, covid. we'd like to talk about covid and then next time, here's what happens november 4th you won't hear too much about it. you won't hear too much about
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it. >> fire fauci. fire fauci. fire fauci. >> don't tell anybody but let me wait till a little bit after the election. he's a nice man, though. he's been wrong on a lot. >> senator, win or lose, so the president fire dr. fauci? >> well -- first off, i have a good working relationship with dr. fauci. i know he's been working hard. we are not -- you know, covid is out there, we have to wear a mask, we have to social distance. i talked to steve hawn this week, they're working hard on the therapeutics, i'm hopeful on the vaccine. but we have not beaten this and everyone has to take it seriously. we're doing well on the therapeutics but the vaccine is going to help us a lot and we have to get more testing out, especially businesses around the
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country. >> you're a republican governor, now a republican senator. i think if any math is right and memory is right, you won the senate race about 10,000 votes is that about right. you know what it's like -- >> landslide. >> 10,000 votes it might be. al gore and george w. bush would view that as a landslide. you may know these close elections better than anybody. so i'm going to go to my map here and pull florida up. people speak about the cliche, the farther south you go in florida, the further north you get. a lot of retirees, older voters who came from the northeast. if you come here, these voters, georgia, alabama, this vote is more like the south. in a close race it comes down the i-4 corridor. four years ago, i remember getting a call from the democrat during the day who was looking at pe nellis county saying we are getting bleeped because of
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trump turn out. it was blue for obama in 2012, in a close race that can make the difference. when you wake up on election day or watching the results on election night, everyone politician has one in your state what's the county, the demographic, what is it rick scott looks at? >> you know, i think the difference is going to be the hispanic vote. i won the hispanic vote in all three of my races. i think president trump is doing well with the hispanic vote. i think that's going to be the game changer. we have so many cubans, venezuelans and nicaraguans they want a president who's going to hold the dictators accountable. he will and joe biden won't. i think that's going to change the election. and the tax increase that joe biden is talking about is not going over well in florida. we'll see who turns out. i think the key is who's going to get the vote out. everybody has to get out there. i always say, i want 100% participation, 0% fraud. i would like everyone to vote
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for me when i'm running. but the issue is, get the vote out. if you want to win florida you better work hard and win florida. >> take me inside the conversation with your republican senate colleagues right now. how likely do you believe it is when you come back to washington you'll know you win the presidential race by then but you'll be in the minority? how deep is the concern that the democrats are going to retake the majority? >> everybody always worries about their election. i've been in the senate a little less than two years, and even people who look like they have an easy election they're working hard. i think we'll keep a republican senate, i think it's because of the issues. we'll pick up alabama, a chance to pick up michigan and new mexico. cor cory gardner probably has the hardest race but it's about who's going to show ip to vote. i think republicans are going to come out and vote on the issues. they don't want tax increases. they want someone who supports
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law enforcement and our military. on these issues, economy, president trump wins. >> senator scott, thank you we appreciate your time. we'll see how the criticals play out. up next the new coronavirus warning we mentioned from dr. anthony fauci. but first another campaign flashback. a reminder, not everything you hear at the end of a campaign turns out to be true. >> tomorrow we begin a new tomorrow. tomorrow we begin a better tomorrow. >> my friends, we got one day left. one day left until we take america in a new direction. >> the polls are moving in our direction. >> the pundits don't matter. these national pollsters who have been all over the field, they don't matter. >> this race is very, very tight. and it's getting tighter and tighter by the hour.
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data last week. the deep red, that means at least 50% more new infections right now compared to a week ago. those states a lot of hurt right now, they're hurting more in terms of the case count going up. only five states reporting fewer new infections compared to a week ago. the case trend line, this is dangerous, you see the red line going almost straight up. that is the problem right now. the summer peek was here, high 60s to 70s. we're above that, 81,493 for a sunday. the case count headed up, dr. fauci thinks 100,000 is in our near future. the jump since october 1st, the beginning of last month, october 1st, we were averaging 41,000 new infections a day. that's bad enough. look now, not quite double but in the ballpark of double that, 81,336 on average new infections.
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the death trend, there are no good statistics here. the better statistics is this line has stayed down. every one of these is a neighbor, friend, coworker, somebody's family member, every one of these is pain. this stayed down. the experts believe it's going to go up faster all of a sudden as we get colder. let's hope they're wrong. 447 deaths recorded yesterday. the average below a thousand. let's hope it stays there. one of the reasons the experts believe it will go up is you're starting to see the hospitalization lines go up. a few weeks back around 40,000 now we're inching up to around 50,000. that's a problem there. the deeper the color, the higher the positivity rate, the more positivity, the more cases and the likely they're going to infect people tomorrow. 50%, half the people in south dakota are positive. 34% idaho. you see the upper wid west, that's where the bigger problem is.
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but 11% in texas. 19% in alabama. 14% in pennsylvania. there are problems everywhere. such problems that dr. william hassleton, one of the experts who looked at this, looks at what's happening in europe right now, the rising case count here and he's worried. >> i think what europe should be to america is a reminder of where things can go and how fast they can go wrong. viruses take advantage of human behavior. that's what happened in europe, people stopped listening to the government, they relaxed, started congregating again, didn't wear masks, went to large groups, had their parties as usual. and the results have been catastrophic. >> you listen to that expert advice about what you should do. here's the flip side. president trump's top pandemic adviser dr. scott atlas critical of restrictions put in place in europe right now, critical even of basic measures like wearing a mask. now dr. atlas having to
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apologize because he gave an interview on a russian propaganda network to share his out of the main stream views. let's bring in elizabeth cohen. >> he says things that are outside, defy logic, his expertise and saying them now on vladimir putin's preferred propaganda channel. that's just great. >> that's right. this is really, really horrific and mind bending opinion i wa. i want to look at two sentences here that not only are they wrong but they're immoral. what dr. atlas told this russian propaganda machine is we see a lot of cases of covid. we do not see an explosion of deaths. let's look at the numbers. the week of october 26th in the u.s. an average of 823 deaths per day. what kind of moral compass does dr. atlas have that he thinks
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823 people dead in the united states a day is not an explosion? how is that not an explosion? and it's headed in the wrong direction. more than 15% increase in deaths from the previous month. it's immoral for him to be saying this, john. because even if one person hears this and says, a lot of cases, not so much deaths, i'm not going to wear a mask. i won't do social distancing. and if that person gets covid and that person dies, that death is on dr. atlas. that death is his responsibility, because he is making this sound like a virus that just gets people sick but doesn't cause a lot of deaths. 823 deaths per day in the united states, 823 dead americans, that's not a lot of deaths to him. he's a doctor. what he's saying is so immoral. john. >> and sadly the trend line heading in a higher direction with the numbers you just mentioned. hope that's wrong but that's the
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way it's pointing right now. we want to take you live to the trail whenever we can. the vice president of the united states, in latrobe, pennsylvania. >> how about those gdp numbers, pennsylvania. man, the american economy grew by 33% in the third quarter. shattering every previous record. the american comeback is on. and with four more years of president donald trump in the white house we'll bring this economy all the way back, bigger and better than ever before. kind of like the president tweeted last week, he said it's the biggest and best economy growth in history. not even close. you know, in this great comeback is a testament. it's a testament to the character and the resilience and work ethic of the american people. but it's also a tribute to a president and to our allies in the congress, like john joyce,
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who worked with us to create the greatest economy the world has ever seen. it's why it's amazing to think here the day before election day that joe biden in the midst of a global pandemic wants to raise taxes by $4 trillion. he wants to pass a $2 trillion verl version of the green new deal that would crush american energy. but under president donald trump we cut taxes across the board for working families and businesses. we rolled back more red tape than any administration in history. we fought for free and fair trade. we unleashed american energy. and in three years businesses large and small created 7 million good paying jobs, including 200,000 jobs right including 200,000 jobs right here in the commonwealth.
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coordinated bots attack women for political gain. we have asked facebook to do better, our freedom, our democracy is at risk. we are fighting back, and we're asking you to join us. we've got your back, do you have ours? you know, lean in. this hour, a federal judge hearing an effort by republicans to toss out nearly 127,000 ballots cast by curbside voting.
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in harris county. the texas supreme court already rejected the challenge. harris county clerk urging the federal court to tell state republicans no. >> more than 100,000 texans cast their ballots in this way. it is completely legal. as you noted. and all republicans of the supreme court have thrown it out as illegitimate. this judge should do the same today. >> ben ginsburg joins me. you lose at the all republican state supreme court, now you go into federal court, is there some federal issue at play here or is this just republicans again trying to throw out votes from people in places they assume will vote democratic? >> there are different claims in the federal case, john, and just in full disclosure, i went in on
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an amicus brief. nobody should throw out 100,000 votes when it was at worst administrative error and not the fault of the voters. >> when you say at worst, administrative error, do you believe something was handled wrong or outside of the law or any pandemic policy? >> i don't. i believe that what the harris county officials did was perfectly appropriate within the texas statute, texas constitution, and federal court should not throw it out. >> so this is one case. you write, you have been writing several op-eds, trying to warn your party you think it is headed down a dangerous path in challenging votes everywhere, and that's what's happening. i hate to say it, but it is happening everywhere. republicans are trying to stop people from voting. you write this morning, sunday in "the washington post," president trump failed the test of leadership. his bid for re-election is floundering. his only solution is to launch an all out mlt ee million dollar effort to disenfranchise voters,
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voting to block state laws during the pandemic and in final stages of the campaign challenging ballots of individual voters unlikely to support him. you make both a legal and political argument that this is bad. let me ask you the question this way. why are republicans afraid in a floc democracy of people voting? >> i'm not sure i know the answer to that. what i think you can look at as a factual matter is that at this point of time, republican policies are in a waste land. instead of coming up with conservative policies that appeal to various groups, the republican party and the trump campaign have i think really unfortunately not come up with proper conservative policies to appeal to groups and this is kind of where we end up, which is not good. >> they're not out in idaho, montana, or utah. >> they're not in the republican
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precincts of the states. >> right. they're not even in the states, they're not challenging places that are republican, they're going straight to the heart of the democratic turnout. listen to a little of the president yesterday. here's the theory. some states will hold absentee ballots, many states are predominantly democratic, they're going to hold them until after. there's a possibility tomorrow night, 10:00, 11:00 at night, the president is leading in the count in pennsylvania and michigan and in wisconsin, we know they're real votes, but a ton more votes to be counted. the president says i am winning, stop the count. the president won't say he is not doing that, but it is kind of close. >> i think it is a terrible thing when ballots can be collected after an election. we're going to go in the night of, as soon as that election is over, we're going in with our lawyers. >> that night, the night, as soon as the election is over. the election is not over until you count all of the votes legally cast. i get it. people like you, democratic and
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republican election lawyers have every right to challenge this or that ballot, or this procedure. election is not over until they're all counted. what is the president doing here? >> i am not sure. it really shows a lack of understanding of the basic part of the process but the good news is this isn't decided by national rhetoric. that in fact, ballots are counted under state laws in individual precincts and counties and that activity is going to take place and i cannot envision a judge interrupting that. >> you can't envision a judge interrupting that. that's one of the challenges. we may velcro you to that seat for 72 hours. we're going to need your advice and expertise. ben ginsburg, thank you so much. >> thank you, john. and hello to viewers in the united states and welcome to viewers around the world. john king in washington. thank you for sharing this very, very important day with us.
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today, a frenzied final day of campaigning across the united states. tomorrow, america picks its president. the choice is between two fundamentally different men, between scranton and manhattan as joe biden puts it, and between two different strategies how to steer the united states out of a pandemic that's getting worse and worse by the day. monday map tells you what you need to know. each campaign closing day priorities. joe biden in ohio, then onto pennsylvania. the president checking in on four states. north carolina, pennsylvania, wisconsin, and michigan. both presidential nominees with final day focus on the commonwealth of pennsylvania. former president, barack obama, helping democrats with turnout voter stops in georgia and florida. the early vote number is remarkable. it is enormous. ballots cast so far, 95 plus million. it is important to remember those record numbers are not just votes for president but important votes for senate, for the house, for statehouses, for ballot initiatives, judges, and
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