tv Election Day in America CNN November 2, 2020 11:00pm-2:00am PST
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a very good, early tuesday morning to you. have you voted, yet, america? i'm jim sciutto. >> we're so glad you are with us. hi, everyone. i'm poppy harlow. and it finally is here. election day is upon us. the day millions of americans will make their voices heard, if you have not already. joining the nearly 100 million people who have already cast their ballots, the race is like no other, at a time like no other. a worsening pandemic is shaping how we are all voting, and impacting who many are voting for. both candidates, wrapping up their final and starkly different closing arguments, just moments ago. >> we have to win. don't do that to our country. our country has too much unbelievable potential, actually. massively, increasing your regulations, shutting down your economy, they're going to close down your factories. send your jobs overseas to china
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and other places. i don't think so. destroy the suburbs. >> tomorrow, we can put an end to a president that's divided this nation and fanned the flames of hate. tomorrow, we can put an end to a presidency that has failed to protect this nation. >> well, the good news, and there is good news, tens of millions of you have voted already, safely. but the nation is on edge, as the president deliberately cast doubt on the integrity of this election. even, promising a court fight in pennsylvania over legal, mail-in ballots there. we are following all these headlines on this very important day and, of course, this. a tradition. some of the very first ballots already cast in this election, just minutes after midnight. joe biden taking all five votes in the tiny, new hampshire town of dixville notch. but let's begin with the bigger picture and a key swing state in this election with cnn's sara
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murray in pennsylvania. sara, what are you finding there? >> jim and poppy, it is a big test for a key battleground today. for the first time, you didn't need an excuse to do it and more than 2.4 million people have already handed in those ballots. but it is not until 7:00 a.m., on election day, when these counties can start opening these ballots, taking out the outer envelope, taking out the secrecy envelope. flattening these ballots, putting them through the scanner and, hopefully, tonight, delivering a count. this all takes time. the big counties in pennsylvania are going to be working 24/7 to get this done but there are at least nine counties cnn knows of that are not going to start going through these ballots until the day after election day. officials have said over and over again, you need to be patient. we may not know who won on election night, who won the state of pennsylvania, and that is okay. officials are going to keep counting until there is an accurate result. back to you guys. >> that's the important thing.
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accurate result. sara, thanks for that reporting. let's head to nevada and a victory for voters there after a judge halted republican efforts to halt early-vote counting. >> it's been interesting to follow all these court decisions here with real impact. more than 1.1 million ballots have already been cast in that key state. mail-in ballots postmarked by today will be counted if they arrive by tuesday of next week. cnn's erica hill is in las vegas. >> reporter: jim and poppy, the number of ballots cast in the state of nevada has already surpassed the total turnout for 2016. now, remember, this is a state where every active voter, some 1.8 million of them, was sent a mail-in ballot because of the pandemic. and of the ballots returned, thus far, just over half of those are mail-in ballots. the other come from early, in-person voting. two weeks of in-person voting wrapped here on friday. if we break down the numbers a little bit, more democrats returning those mail-in ballots.
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where republicans, though, va voting early in person. as long as they are postmarked by election day, those ballots will still be counted, as long as they arrive by november 10th. there is a big focus on clark county. that's where i am. it is the most populous county in the state. it also accounts for nearly 70% of active voters in nevada and it leans heavily democratic. it's also been the focus of two lawsuits filed by the trump campaign and the nevada republican party, in recent days. now, the first, to halt early-vote counting, claiming some issues with signature matching and just how closely observers could watch ballot processing. but a judge, on monday, denied the request. the campaign and the state gop didn't even have the standing to make those challenges. the chair of the state republican party said they may appeal to the nevada supreme court. meantime, a partial victory for the gop in a second suit, which claimed clark county officials had failed to turn over detailed records about those involved in ballot processing, including the names and schedules of the
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drivers transporting ballots. after a hearing on monday afternoon, the judge giving the county until november 20th to fulfill some of the requested information. but noted, the gop is not entitled to the personal information of employees or contractors, in this situation. jim. poppy. >> erica hill, thanks so much. now, to michigan, where president trump just wrapped up with a late-night rally in grand rapids. 2.9 million votes have already been cast there. 16 electoral votes at stake. poppy, michigan, key battleground in this election. >> absolutely. our national correspondent, miguel marquez, is in detroit for us at the convention center, where they're going to be counting the absentee ballots. miguel. >> jim, poppy, here, i want to show you where we are here. this is the convention center in detroit. it is, now, the place where all the absentee ballots are being counted, in the city of detroit. it is an absolutely massive,
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cavernous location. hundreds of employees have been working here all day, as well as challengers. two challenges were actually removed from the room today, because they were -- one wasn't wearing their mask properly. another was wearing a halloween mask. this is the important bit. so, what they are doing today is they are sorting the ballots. getting them ready to be counted tomorrow. they can only process them right now. those machines, right there, in the center. there's 25 of them. they are high-speed tabulating machines. those will be loaded up with ballots, starting 7:00 a.m., and they will start counting the many ballots here. they were able to get through about 80,000. process 80,000 ballots, just today. so they'll be ready to be counted there. that's important because the entire vote for the city of detroit is about 250,000 people. they expect there is about 150,000 absentee ballots. if that is correct, and they believe that they'll be able to report those when polls close tomorrow or very close to, if
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cities like detroit and -- and -- and other big cities around michigan can get that vote total in very early, michigan will look very blue, early on. and it may be later that it may go more red. so if the president had hoped that it would be red early on and could sort of call the race in michigan early, he may be surprised because it seems like, right now, officials in michigan are really getting through many, many of those ballots. poppy. jim. >> that's fascinating. miguel, thank you very much for that. all right. let's discuss. sabrina, national politics reporter for t"the wall street journal." and washington bureau chief of the daily beast. you are saints in our eyes, ladies. for staying to hang with us. >> we owe you coffee. coffee's coming your way. >> tis the season. >> there's no place we'd rather be. >> maybe, something a little stronger as well, after this week, to thank you guys for this. but, jackie, on a serious note. when we -- when we look at what
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is ahead, obviously, the presidential race is key. but the senate, i mean, that is particularly important to getting anything done. and you are preparing for some stunners. where? >> so -- so where the stunners are, that, you know, we'll see, by virtue of the name stunner. however, i do think we might have some answers early on in the night, or tonight. places like north carolina, we're expected to get the vote. places, like in colorado, perhaps maine. they have ranked voting there so it might be a little more complicated. georgia, in particular, we could see two runoffs, though, some of the -- the pollsters there are saying that there might be an outright win for someone like jon ossoff, who is challenging david perdue. so, really, the senate is hanging in the balance here. and we could get some concrete answers, in a lot of these
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important states, today, which is actually saying something. or early, tomorrow morning. >> sabrina, there's a reason, folks are focused on pennsylvania, right? particularly, for trump, and losing that really takes away a lot of his path -- potential paths to victory. but isn't it, also, true that folks should pay attention, speaking of stunners, right, to other states that, in the last cycle, were easy wins for trump? an ohio, north carolina, for instance, georgia, that are at least in play. and god knows, we don't know where it's going to be by the end of today or later this week. but another potential headline from this election? >> you're absolutely right, jim. and it's no surprise that president trump, on his final day of campaigning, traveled to those three industrial, battleground, that helped propel him to the white house four years ago. michigan, wisconsin, and pennsylvania. after all, he won by a margin of
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roughly 77,000 votes, across all three states. but he, also, did go to north carolina where he is unexpectedly on defense. joe biden chose to go to ohio on his final day of campaigning. that's a state that president trump carried by eight points, in 2016. now, the two candidates are in a statistical tie. iowa is another state that president trump carried by nine points, four years ago, but where we are seeing a much more competitive race, this time around. it's, also, of course, important to remember that, for president trump, if he loses north carolina or georgia or florida, three states that are seen as a must-win for him, then his past to the presidency or to re-election, i should say, becomes a lot more narrow. so, if we get an early result from one of these states where the trump campaign was not necessarily expecting it to be competitive, that could tell us a lot about where the night may be headed. >> speaking of competitive states and critical states,
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especially for republican candidates for the presidency, ohio, jackie. and i thought it was interesting that biden's campaign manager, jan o'malley dylan, was asked just a few hours ago, you know, why did you guys go to ohio to make your closing case on election eve? she called it, quote, an expansion state. saying, like iowa, like texas, that it is in play. i just think it's -- i wonder what your thoughts are for them going there near the end, not to mention the trip to georgia just a few days ago, et cetera. them, being so confident that these expansion states are, also, in play for them. >> well, it's one of those things like, if they're successful, they look brilliant. if they are not, wie'll look bak at it and say, wait, why did they go there? but where in ohio is important. they went to the northern part of the state. a lot of democrats live there. it's very vote rich. and it's somewhere they wanted to try to juice turnout,
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particularly with the african-american community in cleveland. so that -- there is a method to the madness, when you see where they are going. now, ohio really is in the balance. talking to democrats there, they're supernervous, as to whether they're going to be able to pull it out. georgia, also, biden seems to be favored there by a very slight margin and democrats are feeling cautiously optimistic. but i think there is a lot of knocking on wood that's going to echo throughout both of these states until the results are known. >> so, sabrina, forgive me, again, for playing contrarian here. looking at the legal side of this, right? i mean, from the very beginning, there have been so many legal fights here. republicans fighting measures in a number of states to expand the vote, et cetera. what's happened, though, interestingly, in most of those cases, they've lost, right? i mean, they've lost these cases. and -- and -- and i just wonder if that's another one of those stories of this election. right? i mean, a hopeful one, you can
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say, right? if you agree, that expanding the vote is a good thing, in that, despite concerns leading up to it, there would be a lot of legal obstacles put up in the way of people voting, expanding the vote. that, by and large, those cases have gone the other way. >> for the most part, they have. and i think it says a lot about the republican party's standing, that one of the last tactics has been to try and mount these local challenges to the tallying of legitimate ballots. and you have, so far, seen the courts rule in a way that has favored democrats. and really, will ensure that votes that were cast, either, you know, you have a case in texas where it was through a drive-through dropoff. or, of course, a lot of the questions around mail-in ballots, that they will be counted. and perhaps, that may take an extra set of days. but ultimately, the point is that the election will be decided once all of the votes are tallied and not by any one
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party trying to suppress the vote. not by the president trying to prematurely claim victory, as he has indicated that he will. now, it is also worth pointing out, though, both sides are preparing for possible, postelection challenges. it's pretty steroid that they have extraordinary that they have dispatched hundreds of lawyers across the country. but, we'll wait and see. i think, again, it just bears repeating the election is declared when the votes are counted. and not by any other metric. >> yeah. it's an important point. listen. sabrina, jackie, coffee on us until the end of the 5:00 hour. and then, whatever else you choose after that, as well. we appreciate you staying up. >> thanks, guys. >> still to come this hour. republican attempts to block election-day drive-through voting in the largest county in texas are denied. so why, though, is the county clerk who fought for these options closing down all but one of those locations, anyway?
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welcome back this election day. twitter is flagging a tweet from president trump, labeling it disputed, and restricting its sharing after he criticized a supreme court decision that allows legal, mail-in ballots in pennsylvania to be counted up to three days after election day, as the law there states. >> that's right. and in last night's tweet, the president makes the baseless claim that the court's decision will, quote, allow rampant and unchecked cheating. not true. he is, also, making reference to the ruling inciting violence and that is what prompted to post.
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brian stelter, our host of reliable sources. it's amazing this is happening. but it is, what it is. it -- it is happening and it's coming from the president, and it's being flagged and taken down by these huge platforms. >> right. a war on truth, a rhetorical war, led by the president, waged by the president. he is trying to twist reality to fit his agenda. and these social media platforms have gradually had to start to take actions against some of this really dangerous, misleading information the president spreads. as you mentioned, twitter flagging this. facebook, also, putting a more moderate, mild label, on the president's words about pennsylvania. neither site saying he is inciting violence but both saying he is counter to the facts about voting. look, these platforms are going to be under pressure, all day long, to keep an eye on the president's account. also, on his allies as they may spread disinformation about voting. in the event of a premature
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victory claim, from the president, for example, or a candidate lower down on the ballot in some state, they will take action. they will label those pocketsst well. but let's keep in mind. all this disinformation that rages on social media. it also rages on television. the president's live on fox news making some of these claims and they're not labeled on right-wing tv. but these platforms are trying to do something in this -- in this misinformation age. >> brian, can i ask, do we know what a difference these labels make to the tweet? it's still up and i know, this case, they restrict retweeting, which i guess would limit the number of eyeballs that see it. but do we know if it really makes a difference, these labels? >> honestly, i don't think we will know until the next election. they are trying to rebuild the car, as it's careening down the road. researchers will come in, later, and tell us if this is effective or if it draws more attention to the claims. right now, it's too early to
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say. >> yeah. yeah. >> brian, stay with us. don't go very far. we're going to talk with you, in a little bit, about more. but we do have breaking news out of texas. the harris county clerk has reversed his position, and now says he will close nine out of ten drive-through voting locations in the country. these are voting locations he had pushed for. this comes, even though a federal judge rejected a republican request to invalidate 127,000 ballots that were dropped off at those drive-through sites, because those locations were at tents, and not permanent structures. >> but the dismissal was on a technicality, and republicans are still trying to stop all drive-through voting, today. chris hollands, the county clerk, said in a tweet, quote, i cannot, in good faith, encourage voters to cast their votes in tents, if that puts their votes at risk. let's bring in now, franita, cnn
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election law analyst and professor at usc gould school of law. in the midst of the battle, got the decision to go his way, democrats' way there. are you surprised by his backing off, at this point, given the fight? >> i'm not. first, let me say thank you so much for having me on. i do think that the decision, a certain level of voter confusion i think he is probably worried about. so even though he won in federal court today, the plaintiff has appealed to the 5th circuit. so it's entirely possible a decision could come out of the 5th circuit and the court could rule drive-through voting is unconstitutional and cannot be used on election day. so because of that concern, i think he feels compelled to warn voters away from using the drive-through voting mechanism. >> if that happens, franita, does -- is there a chance that those 127,000 votes, that had previously been cast at these
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drive-through tents, that a republican-appointed judge on the appellate court said to the republican argument to get rid of them, i ain't buying it. someone appointed by president george w. bush. is there still a chance those could get thrown out, ultimately? >> no, i think that ship has sailed. so, the plaintiffs are requesting they bar the use of drive-through voting on election day. so i do think those votes will count. but, you know, keep in mind, poppy, if this relief is granted, it does make it difficult for voters with disabilities, voters who have, you know, pre-existing conditions that may make them more susceptible to covid-19. it makes it more difficult for them to vote so it is a very consequential decision if the 5th circuit decides to prevent harris county from using this. >> let's look at another state that's going to -- clearly, central in the election, regardless. that is, pennsylvania. but also, potentially, legal challenges around this. the president. publicly, his lawyers making the
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case, mail-in ballots, ones that don't arrive by electrician diot are postmarked by election day, which pennsylvania allows. what is the legal argument not to count those ballots, that state law says are valid? what's the argument the president, his campaign, hope to make? >> so, part of this has to do with the fact that four supreme court justices have indicated a willingness to read the constitution, in a way where state legislatures have a pretty much unencumbered authority. so when you have courts trying to make voting easier for individuals, especially in light of the pandemic, the argument is this goes too far in the authority of the state legislature. so in many states, pennsylvania, minnesota, for example, you have state and federal courts who have weighed in and said, look, as long as ballots are postmarked by a certain day. then, receipt of these ballots is okay a few days after
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election day. the argument is this goes too far into the authority of the state legislature. and so, the trump campaign is seeking to stop the counting and limit it effectively to election day, which is not how we've generally run our elections. >> you bring up minnesota, which is a very much a battleground state this year. the trump campaign thinks they can flip it and take the state for the first time since 1972 for a republican presidential candidate. but they're segregating all the ballots that arrive after today. they were going to allow them to count, for seven days. but this seems like the secretary of state of minnesota's all but indicating they know this is going to be fought out in a higher court after the election. is that pretty much a guarantee for minnesota and pennsylvania? >> i think so, right? a lot of this will come down to turnout. you know, if the margins are significant, that decreases the chance that there will be litigation. but i think it's inevitable. i think minnesota and pennsylvania are preparing
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themselves for the inevitable litigation. >> yeah. we appreciate you staying up late. i know you're on the west coast. but still. thank you. >> past my bedtime. >> way past mine. thank you very, very much. you can find all of this superhelpful information for you. where do you vote today? what are your voting options? locations? times? et cetera. cnn dot com/vote. go there. the road to 270 could take a lot of twists and turns. john king lays it out next. when the pandemic shook our city,
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scott wiener will never stop working until california emerges from this crisis. the bay area needs scott's continued leadership in sacramento. because we know scott is fighting for all of us. re-elect scott wiener for state senate. okay. the countdown to election day is officially over. we are here. it may be 2:31 in the morning, but it is election day. and the campaigns are starting to count up to 270. >> so, how can president trump or joe biden reach that 270 number, the electoral votes needed to clinch the presidency? and when might we get the first clues as to how this ends? cnn's john king is at the magic wall, where he always is, to walk us through some scenarios.
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>> the tumultuous campaign of 2020 is drawing to a close. on tuesday night, we fill in the map. we count america's votes. some states red. some states blue. and we determine who is the next president of the united states. let's use the 2016 map for little pointers what to watch for on election night. number one, patience is required in this pandemic election because of a good thing. overwhelming and early mail-in voting. could take some time. three states in particular, pennsylvania, michigan, and wisconsin, once the democratic blue wall. flipped in 2016. all three say it could take them into wednesday, perhaps even longer, to count all those mail-in ballots, and to know who the winner is, especially if it's close. pennsylvania, in fact, says it could go to thursday or friday if it's very close and they count those ballots so we need patience, number one. but we will get some clues. some states that are good at counting mail-in ballots are florida. both, red in 2016.
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both, absolutely critical. if the president is going to pull off another election-day surprise, overcome the polls and win re-election, he has to win florida and he has to win north carolina. so as we get into late tuesday night and those states reporting more and more vote totals, we should get a clue. if joe biden can carry either florida or north carolina or both, that may be a statement. but that would be a statement, something to watch. another state that expects to finish early, arizona. not as big in the electoral college. but again, reliably red state for a long time. back to the bill clinton days, not since then, has a democrat won it. the battle, of course, we all remember 2016. we pick presidents not by the popular vote. joe biden is expected to win the popular vote and some think by even a bigger margin than hillary clinton four years ago. donald trump is president because of the electoral college. so again, joe biden, a comfortable lead here. a modest lead here. and a modest lead here. just flipping the so-called blue wall. rebuilding it for the democrats.
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that would make joe biden president of the united states. he does see an opportunity, again, to do florida, north carolina, maybe arizona. they're close in texas. they're close in traditionally republican iowa. traditionally republican ohio. it is possible. but they can't plan on that in the biden campaign. so the assumption is maybe trump is strong in these traditionally republican areas. protect up here. if you are the president of the united states, you have a steeper hill now than you did in the dramatic comeback. dramatic, election-day surge. the president of the united states needs to keep florida, needs to keep north carolina. then, perhaps, if he can get pennsylvania back, that puts him right back in the game. that's a tie. 269-269. there is a congressional district here. congressional district here. those two states, nebraska and maine, decide their electoral votes that way, by congressional
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district. which why, in the end, we may have to wait for the votes. the blue-wall states absolutely critical to the democrats. advantage, joe biden, going in. here's how we ended 2016. pretty soon, we find out how we end 2020. >> will, indeed. he is so good at the wall. john king, thanks very much. >> he really is. >> boils it down. >> for sure. >> i learn something new every time he runs through there. like magic. well, president trump is expected to be inside the white house, tonight. watching the results come in from across the country. >> and we have heard, obviously, that he wants to have all of the votes counted, by election night. that's not how it's all going to work. so how will you know what the results are when we know them? joining us now, cnn chief media correspondent, brian stelter, and our presidential historian, douglas brinkley. good morning, gentlemen. thank you for being here. brian, thanks for sticking around. can you explain to people, what
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to expect, in terms of when a race is called? and -- and the media does it. because i'm just sort of protecting against either candidate prematurely declaring victory. what should people watch for? and also, how are the networks and the big social media platforms planning to handle it if a candidate does get up there and say i've won before we have actually called it? >> right. america's unique in many ways, that our voting system is decentralized. this is actually a series of state and local elections and the numbers trickle up to the national level. and there are actually two systems in the united states, used by the media, to assemble votes counted by local officials. cnn are members of one group called a national election pool. and then, there is the associated press and fox news. and both groups, independently, are tallying votes and coming up with the results and making projections. and that should give viewers confidence, there are multiple institutions doing this, at the same time. and eventually, getting to the
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same result. all the networks make projections, independently. only when they are absolutely confident in the results, the ap declares victory and shares them around the world. so, there is a system that goes back many, many decades and there's a lot of reasons to be confident in it. if president trump comes out and prematurely declares victory, he will probably be broadcast live. but you will see john king, right away, at the wall. showing why the president is not actually being projected the winner. you will see all that context, in realtime. and that's not just on cnn. even fox news has an ethical, righteous decision desk. i know they have got propaganda but their decision desk is actually quite liable. >> douglas brinkley, imagine this scenario that the president claims, without basis or backing, that he's won and the networks don't call it. and, you know, the other bodies that matter, congress, et cetera, don't agree. don't accept it. well, what happens then?
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i mean, do we just -- it's possible the country ignores that claim, right? or at least, a large portion does? >> yeah, i mean, the good news is that this is historic voting. so many people are registered. so many people have already pre-voted. the bad news is history may see this as entanglement of legal suits. meaning, donald trump may simply refuse to say i lost. he's marketed himself, his whole life, as the winner. the guy who never loses. and this idea, all of a sudden, he's going to give a concession speech or come and say, well, i came close and we'll get 'em next time and be gracious toward joe biden seems unlikely. he has a deep authoritarian bent. he is more like joe mccarthy or aaron burr than he is a typical, american president. so if it gets down to the wire, he's going to just hope, put his
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final hope, being that the supreme court might decide. and he thinks that they might decide in his favor. >> brian, you talked about television and having fact-checking around any candidate, prematurely, declaring victory. that fact-checking does not live, often, on social media. do -- do you have clarity, from facebook, from twitter, from youtube, this morning, on what their plan is if a candidate gets up and delivers a, you know, an i-won address, without news anchors fact-checking it in realtime? are they going to allow it to be posted? >> that's right. facebook, twitter, will take their cues from the networks. and if there's not been a projection, yet, by two different networks or outlets, there will be labels attached to premature claims of victory. but to be honest, these labels are sometimes rather mild. not entirely clear or not entirely assertive in the statements. so, these platforms are something we're going to have to keep an eye on, in those hours.
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i think in the event, as brinkley was describing, if there is this situation where the president refuses to acknowledge that he has lost, for example. if the numbers are clear, we don't know what's going to happen, but if the numbers are clear and the president has lost and refuses to acknowledge it. we are going to see this further polarization and radicalization of the electorate. most americans see through his lies. it's not a 50/50 country when it comes down to questions of whether the president's honest and trustworthy and believable. it's more like two-thirds of the country that sees him untrustworthy. but i think what would happen in this situation is one-third of the country that's with the president, it's his most loyal base, they might go ahead and believe him. and a majority, a strong majority, of the american people would not believe him. i think, in that way, trust has been polarized. it's not 50/50 in this country. >> douglas, i wonder what the lasting damage is, right, regardless of what the results are today because this wouldn't be the first election the president attacked. right? look back four years, he claimed he only lost the popular vote
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because there were 2 million false votes there, right? even set up a commission that went nowhere. so it's been -- it's been a years-long attack by this president, on the institution of the election. what is the lasting damage to that? and -- and -- and what is required to, if not turn that around to, help stem the hemorrhage, right, of confidence? >> we may have to get a constitutional amendment adopted, down the line, to prevent this kind of tyranny. a president who misleads the american people, puts himself above country, we will have to see. but it has been a very rocky four years with the president who has done everything unprecedented. has tried to smash institutions, whether it's the state department or cia or epa. if joe biden wins, i'd imagine you'd be looking at a third obama term. and a lot of that energy will be
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kind of reengaging the american public with our civic traditions. i think about jimmy carter. when he left office, he wrote his memoir called "keeping faith." and gerald ford's was "time to heal." the biden administration, at least a first term, might be just trying to repair a lot of damage that trump did to our democracy. >> well, listen. it's good to see so many americans voting, and that is a sign of the strength of our democracy. let's hope we find the way forward. douglas, brian, gratitude from both of us for joining us and staying up late on this election day. we appreciate it. >> thanks. >> thank you. >> please, do join us for our special-election coverage, this afternoon, 4:00, eastern time, right here on cnn. >> meantime, a top adviser on the white house coronavirus task force is breaking with the administration. now, saying the u.s. needs more aggressive action to slow the spread. hear what dr. deborah birx said.
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well, listen to this reporting out of "the washington post" because it's really significant. they're reporting that task force lead, dr. deborah birx, sent an internal memo to top-white house officials, yesterday, essentially pleading for more aggressive action against coronavirus. >> yeah. the sense of urgency here is clear. in part, she wrote, quote, we are entering the most concerning and most deadly phase of this pandemic. leading to increasing mortality. in fact, she predicts we will see, as a country, more than 100,000 new infections, a day, this week. joining us, now, is dr. seema yasmin. she is a former cdc disease detective and medical analyst. doctor, so good to have you on. naturally, the thing is, regardless of what happens today and in the days following, this country is heading into dark days, by accounts of all the experts, in terms of this
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pandemic. what can be done, now, to hem that in? to save lives? >> jim, my concern is that dr. birx is now ringing the alarm. really, calling for urgent action. warning against the kinds of crowded, maskless rallies that the president's been holding across the country. saying we're going to be seeing more than 100,000 new cases, every day, in the next week. and also, contradicting the president and saying that cases aren't going up because we're doing more testing. in fact, from her report from november 2nd, she is pointing out that testing is either flat or declining. all of that needs to be reversed. the frustration is, though, she's now ringing the alarm when things are really bad for many months. epidemiologists, myself included, were frustrated that she was inaccurately passing the data. and presenting a really overly optimistic picture to the president and other officials. the worry is that he listens to whoever gives him the messaging that he likes. and that's why he has spoken
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favorably of dr. birx, in the past. now, she tells sources in "the washington post" reports that she feels like she is being ignored and i think she is. because we are hearing reports that the president plans to hold a tuesday-evening gathering in the white house of an estimated 300 to 400 people. and he's not listening to dr. birx. he is not listening to dr. fauci. he is listening to dr. atlas, who is spreading misinformation. >> here is the rest of what she said that was -- was striking, doctor. quote, this is not about lockdowns. it has -- it hasn't been about lockdown since march or april. it's about an aggressive, balanced approach that's not being implemented. and on testing, and this may be even more important, she said testing is, quote, flat or declining in many areas where cases are rising. that is the complete opposite of what the president keeps saying, which is, well, the only reason, you know, case numbers are going up is because there's more testing. >> poppy, it's been that bad, for months. you know, we actually set a pretty low bar for the kind of
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national testing numbers that we should have seen. we've not met that, nationally. some states have done okay. but less than a dozen, sometimes less than half a dozen. so while i'm glad that she's bringing the sense of urgency. as i said, i'm worried that it's too little, too late. i'm also worried that because of this administration's kind of korntsed effort to attack science and to not look at the evidence that now that she is ringing the alarm will anyone listen or will we just be on track to continue this awful trajectory that we've been seeing over the last few weeks that is set to get worse over the next months because nothing is changing? >> yeah. doctor, i imagine some folks watching tonight have a similar reaction to me, which is if there isn't national leadership on this, right? that the experts and the president's own coronavirus task force are recommending. what do i do? right? to protect myself and my family and the people i care about. what steps can individuals take if the nation is not taking
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those steps? >> so jim, covid fatigue is very real. i think i have it because i'm always saying the same things. but it does come back to this overwhelming need for personal responsibility in the absence of good and effective leadership. so it's really on us to make sure that we are wearing masks, we are doing physical distancing, we are limiting gatherings as much as possible, which is so hard when you're at this point in the year. more holidays are coming up. and we're just so fed up about there not having been a robust national response. the leadership has really failed americans. we're 4% of the world's population and 20% of the covid-19 cases. so it comes down to people trying to kind of not be so muddled about the mixed messaging that's coming out. some officials saying one thing, some officials saying another. and really heeding that good public health advice that wearing a mask is not political. it's a really good public health meshes. make sure you're avoiding gatherings and physical distancing because those things will protect you both from the
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new coronavirus but also from the flu. and we are really worried about that in the next months. >> yeah. listen, folks, the science has been consistent on all this. dr. seema yasmin, thanks so much. >> thank you. well, americans of course watching this election very closely. so are people all over the world. we're going to be live in the uk and china for their view. it's time for sleep number's veterans day sale on the sleep number 360 smart bed. you can adjust your comfort on both sides, your sleep number setting. can it help me fall asleep faster? yes, by gently warming your feet. but can it help keep me asleep?
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obviously, the outcome of the u.s. election has broad global implications and around the world few will be watching it as closely as the united kingdom. whoever becomes the next u.s. president will need to play a major role in trying to negotiate a post-brexit trade deal between the u.s. and the uk that is just one of the big issues at stake. >> that's right. the special relationship. cnn's nic robertson is in london. so nic, what are people saying there? how closely are they following all this? >> oh, they're following it closely. i mean, you have the sort of general public who are watching this. they're watching it play out on the news media. they're getting two or three
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reports every night. the main british news media are promoting the fact they'll be anchoring their shows out of washington. and what they're being told is how close the race is, how every important contested state has seen visits by the vice president and the president. so yes, people are watching. there are several things at stake. one is i think that you get real concern and confusion here in the uk about can this democratic process go off the rails afterwards if it's contested, people are seeing the reports about stores being boarded up. so there's a worry here that democracy, the united states, a beacon of democracy, is not going to handle this election very well. and that's not a good sign for other democracies like the united kingdom. there's a real hope here that the united states can come out of this and set a clear course on covid, that it restores its position as global leader on that as well and sets a very positive trend for bringing the numbers down. that relates to the u.s. economy, which relates to
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everyone's concerns about how each country's going to come out of the coronavirus pandemic. and then i think, you know, you have the leadership level here. boris johnson is sort of cast by some people as a mini me donald trump. he's very much put his hand in that of president trump for looking for a good post-brexit trade deal with the united states. vice president biden could shake all that up. he's told boris johnson don't renege on deals you've made with the eu, if what you do hurts the northern ireland peace agreement that the u.s. was part of then there will be repercussions for that. so yeah, people are watching it really closely here. >> well, future of the nato alliance too. a second term trump might pull the u.s. out of it it. nic robertson, great to have you here in london. china also paying close attention to election day here in the u.s. this president of course one who began a major trade war with china. >> that's right. let's go to our david culver. he joins us live in beijing this morning. good morning, david. so much of this on the foreign policy front, this election has been about who would be or who
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has been tougher on china. >> poppy and jim, good morning to both of you. yeah, we heard china several times mentioned. and it's that one external target that both parties and both candidates really have been going after. here's what's interesting when you talk about how they're looking at the election from the official standpoint. they don't go into any preference or endorsement obviously. and they like to profess from the officials that they don't want to go into other countries' domestic politics. it's their way of saying don't get into our politics, stay out essentially. but when you look at state media here, they're coming out with some of the editorials that essentially they're portraying china as really not going to be fazed by the outcome of this election. they like to say that china's forging its own path and it will continue to do so no matter who's leading the u.s. the general population i would say they're looking at this for the most part as a reality show. i mean, they're seemingly unaffected by the outcome. but the reality is, guys, we know they will be impacted by the outcome because u.s.-china relations are at an all-time low. so whoever's going to be leading
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the u.s. in the next four years is going to have to confront this. and if you look at who china prefers going forward, i've had that question asked to me. well, some say trump because he's called here the nation builder. that's his nickname in chinese. referring to building up the chinese nation. others say biden because he'll bring dialogue. >> it's so important, this relationship. we'll see what happens. david culver, thank you for being live for us in beijing. good morning, everyone, and welcome to election day in america. it is finally here. i'm poppy harlow. >> and i'm jim sciutto. it is here. so much anticipation today. the day, once-in-a-lifetime election certainly but sadly amidst a once in a lifetime health crisis for this nation.
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president trump and democratic presidential nominee the former vice president joe biden issued their closing arguments hoping their final pitches will sway any remaining voters still undecided. have a listen. >> we've been through a lot in this country since we announced. america's facing a confluence of crises unlike anything in living memory. we're still in a battle for the soul of america. decency, honor, respect. where has it gone? with this president. >> we are returning power to you, the american people. with your help, your devotion, and your drive we are going to keep on working. we are going to keep on fighting. and we are going to keep on winning, winning, winning. zbluft an astounding number of americans have already voted. look at that figure there. nearly 100 million americans
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have already cast their ballots early by mail or in person. an enormous percentage of the total ballots, poppy, cast in 2016. >> yes. we were worried -- people were worried about turnout. because this is in the middle of a global pandemic. but that number on your screen is 73% of the total ballots cast in the last presidential election. and in just a few hours polls across the country will begin to open. millions more of you will make your voices heard. with your vote. we have reporters across the country bringing you the very latest before results begin coming in. and we begin with our jim acosta, who is following the trump campaign this morning. jim? >> reporter: jim and poppy, president trump settled on a dark and divisive message in the closing hours of this campaign as he warned pennsylvania governor tom wolf about that state's process of counting ballots after election day. the president saying at one point during the day that his administration would be watching, that there will be
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eyes watching the governor of pennsylvania. that was just some of the volatile rhetoric the president used on the final day of the campaign. here's more of what he had to say at this last rally in grand rapids, michigan. >> but if biden and harris and the radical left gain power, they will collapse our economy and send our nation into a very steep depression. they want to confiscate your guns. second amendment. [ boos ] and indoctrinate your children with hateful anti-american lies. >> reporter: as we've seen throughout this campaign, this final rally in grand rapids, michigan featured trump supporters packing into this venue, not social distancing. not many of them wearing masks. we'll see some of that on election night as the president will be gathering with his supporters at the white house. some 400 trump supporters are expected to attend. again, the world will be watching to see how the president and his team handles that election night event,
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whether or not people will be social distancing and wearing masks. jim and poppy? >> jim acosta for us in grand rapids, michigan. thank you, jim. today joe biden will be making two stops in pennsylvania trying to make sure that his voters get to the polls. he'll first go to his home town of scranton. then he'll move on to philadelphia. >> cnn's arlette saenz is in pittsburgh with more on the vice president's closing argument to americans. >> reporter: jim and poppy, joe biden came here to pittsburgh, pennsylvania on the final night before the campaign, sending a message of unity as he urged his supporters to head out to the polls. now, biden, his wife jill, kamala harris and her husband doug emhoff, barnstormed the state of pennsylvania which the biden campaign is trying to win as they're looking to re-establish that blue wall that president trump broke through back in 2016. and here at this drive-in rally, where lady gaga performed, biden
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predicted that his supporters are coming together for a big win on election night. take a listen. >> my message to you is simple. the power to change this country is in your hands! in your hands! i don't care how hard donald trump tries. there's nothing, nothing that's going to stop the people of this nation from voting. period! and when america votes, america will be heard! and when america's heard, i believe the message will be loud and clear. it's time for donald trump to pack his bags and go home. >> reporter: now, later today joe biden is still keeping his eyes on pennsylvania. he will hold some get out the vote events in his hometown of scranton and philadelphia before ending election night in delaware. jim and poppy? >> arlette saenz, thanks so much. joining us now, candy woodall,
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political reporter for "usa today" network's pennsylvania capital bureau. wendy rhodes, senior politics reporter at the palm beach post in florida. yvonne wingette sanchez, national political reporter at the arizona republic. thanks to all of you for staying out late with us. great representation from three of the big swing states, pennsylvania, florida and arizona. candy, if i could begin with you, just because the candidates have been spending so much time in your state, are there a lot of votes up for grabs there? if you look at the data, the lead has been fairly consistent for biden and a lot of people have voted early there and you have a lot of mail-in ballots. what's your sense of the campaign's view as to how many votes are still up for grabs there? >> i don't think there are many undecided voters in this race. and a lot of the people i've spoken with have said we decided even before the pandemic. and i think what the candidates are doing and why they're living in pennsylvania is because neither of them are sure that
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they have pennsylvania locked down. we'll see former vice president biden here again today. he'll start his day in scranton, his hometown. that is in the northeast corner of pennsylvania. and that corner of pennsylvania is the only place trump has made gains in the last four years. he's actually lost some points in some of the other areas. but i think this is a race of margins, and i think that you know, biden is trying to keep margins down in those red counties and trump is trying to drive up anything he can in blue counties. >> wendy, you're not only in florida. you are in the president's home district in florida. and i want you to a little bit about what you call crossover voters because you said there's likely to be a significant number of crossover voters in florida for reasons that are fairly unique to florida. explain that. >> ceo.
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so crossover voters are voters who are republicans who vote democrat or democrat who vote republican. so what we have down here in florida is we have a segment of the population called dixiekrats. and these are democrats that have been registered democrats for many generations but their political allegiances are with the republican party. so they vote republican all the way down the ticket. they just never reregistered because it's tradition to be registered democrats. and they're called dixiecrats. so we have that segment of the population. then we have a republican segment of the population that's very much fractured. so on one side we have the mainstream moderate republicans, and on the other side we have a segment of republicans who call themselves trumplichltans. and they're very strong trump supporters. a lot of the mainstream republicans will vote democrat. and not only will they vote
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democrat but they're actively and aggressively campaigning for biden. so you have those crossover votes on both sides. and then in addition to that we have about maybe 30% of our population that are their party affiliation voters. and it's anybody's guess which way they'll go. in 2016 they did break for trump but we're not sure which way it's going to go this election. >> it's so good you laid it out that way. because people imagine that things are so easily categorized in this country today. when it's not always so clear which camp folks fall in. and there's some more back and forth than many imagine. yvonne, arizona's another battleground. right? in this election. and i don't want to get into prognostications because no one knows. but what's driving the electorate in arizona this cycle? >> it depends on you who you talk to. the senior voters, clearly the pandemic is a big motivator for them. i've talked to quite a few of them who were trump voters four
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years ago and just can't do it again. so they are crossing over. a lot of independent voters, particularly members of the church of jesus christ of latter day saints, these people tend to live in the suburbs of maricopa county, they really seem to have a big problem with trump's character, his morality. so we're starting to see some erosion among them. and then of course latino voters. we live in a state where latino voters are rapidly growing. they are a very young electorate. and we've had quite a history of immigration pretty hard-line actions toward them over the last decade starting with senate bill 1070 that was signed under governor jan brewer, was one of the strictest -- was the strictest law in the country. and this is a generation of kids and families who understand what's at stake. and they have been actively
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involved in the election process. some of them have gone on to be -- and they're not sitting down for this one. they're not sitting it out. they're very engaged. and so i'm really going to be watching the latino vote to see how they break tomorrow and the coming days for either candidate. >> that's a consistent theme, right, poppy? there is not a lot of sitting out this election just based on the early voting numbers. zblunts look li >> doesn't look like it at all. yvonne, just to follow up, there's a very real chance that at the end of the night tonight arizona could have two democratic senators for the first time since 1950s. >> yeah. martha mcsally, who was appointed to the senate seat once held by the late senator john mccain, she lost her first run for the zmat senate in 2018 kyrsten sinema. and she's considered one of the most endangered members in the chamber.
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she has spent the last several days really barnstorming rural arizona just as president trump has done to really try to shore up vote among rural, more maybe older conservative voters in an effort to maybe offset some of the deficits she expects to see in the outskirts of maricopa county, the communities around phoenix and the communities around tucson where she's from. she faces mark kelly, who is a democrat. he's a retired nasa astronaut. he's married to former congressman gabrielle giffords, who survived a mass shooting in 2011. and he's done a lot of work in the gun activism role and he's really well known nationally for his work on that issue. he's been leading the race in every single well-ranked poll over the last several months. the race does appear to be tightening. but we'll find out what happens tomorrow. >> candy, in the state of
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pennsylvania you have the vote today and then you have at least what is threatened to be the legal fight to follow and the president laufrpg this very public campaign on mail-in ballots and the three days that are allowed by law to count those ballots for ones who arrive by election day. how's that going to play out? in the late hours tonight and then the next couple days. will state officials be able to withstand that kind of national onslaught as they count these ballots? >> i think it could put a lot of focus on republicans in the state legislature. republicans control our state legislature and they had a chance in october, the last time they were in session, to do what all 67 county election officials wanted them to do, which is to extend the time period in which they could start processing ballots. that cannot begin until 7:00 a.m. today. and all county election officials just asked for a few days extra to start processing. and the republican states
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legislature wouldn't budge on that. partially because they were in line with what trump was fighting for, which was he wanted drop boxes removed. so that became a sticking point between republicans and democrats. we heard tonight trump saying that he's watching the governor and then the governor responding by saying you can watch us count ballots and have a fair election. but there have been 3 million ballots requested, more than 2 million have been returned. >> let's end on florida quickly, wendy, and the hispanic vote because your reporting is actually that the president's line of the democrats are socialists, et cetera, anarchy, is working among hispanic voters down there. >> with a segment of the population it is. particularly the cuban voters. words like socialism are very
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frightening to people that have come from that kind of regime. cuba, venezuela. and he's been counting that message home down here. it's not the entire hispanic community that goes for that, though. there are certainly many, many cubans that support biden. and biden's dominating with puerto ricans, particularly after the nightmare after hurricane maria just decimated that island several years ago and the trump administration withheld a lot of help they need. there's still people in puerto rico that don't have power years later. so puerto ricans in general aren't a big fan. but he is doing well with the cuban population. and the hispanic population's about 25% of the electorate now in florida. so it's significant. and both parties have been campaigning hard for that vote. >> thank you, ladies, for staying up or getting up early,
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whichever way. being with us in the middle of the night with your important reporting. we appreciate it very much. >> we do appreciate it. >> yes. all right. all eyes are on this race today. for the presidency. but don't forget the senate. it's hugely consequential. some key contests could end up altering the balance of power. >> no question. plus the president has been touting a resurging economy on the campaign trail. but with no new stimulus deal in sight on the hill, what does the future hold for millions of americans who are still out of work? want to brain better? unlike ordinary memory supplements- neuriva has clinically proven ingredients that fuel 5 indicators of brain performance. memory, focus, accuracy, learning, and concentration. try our new gummies for 30 days and see the difference. we were paying an arm and a leg for postage. i remember setting up shipstation. one or two clicks and everything was up and running. i was printing out labels and saving money. shipstation saves us so much time. it makes it really easy and seamless. pick an order,
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so obviously a lot of this is about the white house but not all of it. there is a lot at stake in key senate races. is the republican majority in jeopardy? >> yeah, federal judges, supreme court judges among them go through the senate. some gop senators are locked in highly competitive contests today. among them senator lindsey graham of south carolina and
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susan collins of maine. cnn's phil mattingly following it for all of us. tell us where it stands. >> reporter: poppy and jim, obviously everybody going into this day is focused on the presidential campaign, but it's what happens here in the senate map, the battle for control, the battle for majority that is going to likely dictator what whoever wins the presidency is going to be able to do. and there's no question about it, when you look at this map right now you see the races that are in place v play, you see the races leaning one way or the other. democrats feel like they have very real and milt ip'll pathways to winning back the majority. let's take a look at some of those right now. as it currently stands when you look at cnn race ratings alabama is a democratic seat. right now leaning republican. doug jones won it in a special election. the expectation is that tommy tuberville, the former auburn coach-s going to win it back. ruby red state, makes sense to some degree. colorado a state where a stitting republican senator is. cory gardner. the belief is the former governor of colorado john hickenlooper will take that seat back following democrats wresting control of the state over the last several cycles. so that pretty much evens things
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out. democrats 47 seats, republicans 45 seats. democrats need 51 seats to win control. so where do they go find hem? well, let's start right here. the state of maine. the toughest race, one of the most expensive races in the entire country. susan collins the incumbent facing a very real challenge and trailing in much of this race to sara gideon. what if democrats win that race, pull that out against an incumbent, a battle-tested incumbent and end up winning that race? then you look at the state of wa with awa. joni ernst. republicans think overt last several weeks she started to open up a little bit of a lead after trailing. however, theresa greenfield way lot of money putting up a very strong fight. what happens democrats win that seat as well. that brings them even closer, up to 49 seats. keep looking around the map. there's no question that the seat the democrats feel is most in play is most within their grasp, arizona. martha mcsally was appointed to the seat after john mccain passed away. mark kelly has raised more money than just about anybody and he believes and democrats believe that they are on track to win their second consecutive senate race in the state.
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so we give that to republicans -- or to democrats as well. where does that leave things? pay attention. that puts democrats at 50. it would be enough if joe biden wins the presidency. but they want more than that. pay attention right here. the state of georgia, the state of north carolina, and even the state of south carolina. we'll go to north carolina first. democrats have long thought this was a prime pickup opportunity. thom tillis the incumbent. cal cunningham rung into some issues, an extramarital affair, many other issues. democrats still think they can pull that out. maybe he is is the 51st. you go into georgia and you've got two races, two very, very crucial races. david perdue is the incumbent. jon ossoff has been closing fast, leading in some polls. democrats feel like ossoff can win this. the big question in both georgia races, this one and the special election down here where you see several candidates is can anyone clear the 50% threshold. afghan one or maybe two races will be going into a runoff. a runoff that could end up deciding the future of the united states senate. and then don't sleep on south carolina. jaime harrison broke every record in the world when it
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comes to fund-raising, raising $57 million in the third quarter. don't make a mistake, south carolina is ruby red country. donald trump will win the state of south carolina. but harrison has put up a fight and nobody thought was even possible. believes there's a real pathway to winning the state. we'll see what happens. more money than anything has flown into the state over the course of the last several months. it will be a battle. the bottom line here, democrats have a very real pathway to 51 or maybe even more seats. but republicans also have a pathway to maintaining the majority. every single race i've kind of pointed out here, tight, very tight. so obviously watch the presidential on tuesday night throughout the course of the night into wednesday but also pay attention to these races because what gets enactsed legislatively, what the president, whoever it is, can do, will largely be dictated by these folks. >> that is so right. phil mattingly, thank you very much for that. it was fascinating. and don't forget to join us tonight for our special election coverage. it all begins 4:00 eastern right here on cnn. well, more than 12 million
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another thing that makes this election day unique beyond the pandemic of course is the fact that more than 12 million americans, perhaps some of you watching right now, remain out of work. scenes like this are playing out across the country. other lines, not for voting but for food banks. and they're stretching far and wide. unemployment lines similar. many businesses are shuttered. some are on the brink of being shuttered. and there is still no stimulus deal in sight to rescue some of those businesses and offer relief to some of those out of work. >> that's right. the common phrase throughout
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this cycle has been vote like your life depends on it. and for many that really is the case. rana faroohar joins us, our global economic analyst. it's good to have you. i wish it were on better news. but there is still no stimulus. congress has still not done its job to reach an agreement for the millions of americans. and this comes as you have 8 million more people in poverty since may. 40% of restaurants nationwide say they expect to go out of business by march if there is not a stimulus deal. and the largest hotel industry group said this week that two out of three hotels will not last another six months without more help. whoever wins tonight or a few days from now or a few weeks from now, what is job number one for them on this economy? >> you know, honestly, poppy, you said it. it's stimulus. we've got to pass another stimulus bill. and that's of course going to be difficult even if we were to get, say, a biden win, unless
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you have a democratic sweep that's still going to be contentious. but honestly, i don't think we can make it through winter without possibly some social unrest based on the fact that the economy has collapsed. it is working on life support right now. the president and some of his supporters might point to third quarter growth figures and say hey, look, the growth is so much up in this last quarter. well, as you know, it's all dependent on where you started. in the second quarter of this past year we had the worst gdp drop since the great depression. so a lot of people are simply out of money. they're operating on loans, on credit cards, on gofundme campaigns. i'm actually supporting a number of local businesses in my neighborhood that way. we really do need more stimulus to get through the next three to six months. >> part of the politics behind
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the stimulus not going anywhere is a calculation among some republican senators is that they want to return to fiscal conservatism all of a sudden, expecting the possibility of a biden presidency there. right? i wonder where that stands. i'm not asking you to predict what happens today in the election. but do you envision republicans kind of rediscovering their fiscal conservative roots here and standing in the way of big spending going forward even in the face of the pandemic? >> well, you know, i'd start by saying i think fiscal conservatism and republicans, you know, rediscovering their roots is not necessarily the case. if you actually look back since the 1980s, republicans have often cut taxes but they've rarely been able to curb deficits because they often actually blow up budgets. and if you look at the second term of the reagan administration, budgets rose. same under a number of other
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conservative administrations in the last several decades. the only way at this stage back to growth is to invest. the public sector has to invest because the private sector frankly is in a period of cost cutting. we're seeing it in the consumer sector already. you're seeing people really buttoning up their wallets, saving, trying to develop a safety net for themselves. corporations are absolutely cutting back. they're probably going to replace as many jobs as they can with technology and software. so we're going to have to have some public spending. >> rana, on vice president joe biden's tax plan, if he becomes president he has committed on in his words day one increasing corporate taxes significantly, increasing taxes on the wealthy, those who make over $400,000 a year, and he keeps saying he's going to do it right away. the tax policy center, brookings and the urban institute,
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calculated that would be about $4 trillion over the next ten years. i know you're a supporter of his and his economic policies, but we are in the middle of an economic crisis. is this really the moment to raise taxes? >> i hear you, poppy. and it's a legitimate question. listen, i'm concerned about debt, but i'm also concerned about the well-being of the average person. and you know, there's a time for public spending. that time is now. >> both sides have been borrowing to do that. the stimulus has just been building up debt and deficits. >> 100%. but at this stage i think really the only way to get the growth back, which is ultimately how you cut debt and deficit, right? you've got to grow. that's what happened during the clinton administration. unfortunately, donald trump's tax cuts actually increased deficits. and his trade policies, to be honest, didn't help. they were supposed to bring back investment to the u.s. but instead what happened was corporate tax cuts led to a lot of share buybacks, which was
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basically companies just paying to buy back their own stock, artificially increasing the price. it didn't really help main street. right? the last set of policies has not worked. it really hasn't made america great again. and over the long haul in order to start cutting that deficit you are going to have to have some public spending in the short term. i don't see any other way around it, frankly. >> yeah. >> there are implications on both sides any way you cut it. rana, thanks for getting up in the middle of the night. good to have you. >> thanks. good to see you. >> appreciate it. listen, no matter what happens over the coming days, cities across the u.s. are bracing for the possibility at least of unrest. up next here, from business owners on how exactly they're preparing. [whisper] air wick our essential mist transforms fragrance infused with natural essential oils into a mist. from a cordless diffuser that gives you the freedom and control to awaken your home with the fresh and calming scents of nature.
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well, this morning as voters go to the polls and the nation anxiously awaits the results of one of the most divisive elections in modern history, cities across the country are bracing for potential civil unrest. >> well, let's hope not. cnn's stephanie elam has more on what some cities and businesses in those cities are doing to prepare. >> reporter: as if a hurricane is coming, businesses across the country are boarding up. the perceived threat is far from
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normal for a modern american election. after a season of charged political rhetoric -- >> biden remains silent in his basement. >> you're the worst president america has ever had. >> reporter: and months of protests including looting in some places. it's the uncertainty of how people will react to the results of the presidential election that has business owners on edge yet again in 2020. >> i think it's just precautionary. >> reporter: caspi's jewelry has been in this los angeles location since 1948. they're closing up shop until sometime after the election. do you ever remember a time when you were concerned about an election result? >> never in my life. this is such a surprise. this is incredible chaos everywhere. >> reporter: chaos that beverly hills wants to avoid. ritzy rodeo drive is completely blocked off until at least thursday. >> we're not mandating any
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businesses board up. we're highly recommending you that harden the target. >> reporter: in portland and chicago the police departments have canceled officers' time off for election day. >> the city has been in close communication with our business community. >> reporter: plywood covers storefront doors and windows in raleigh, north carolina. as it does in denver, where the city is activating its emergency operations center, the first time for an election day. >> 100% heightened awareness. >> reporter: the nation's capital is doing the same. >> we know of course that first amendment activities have the potential to disrupt business operations. >> reporter: but closer to 1600 pennsylvania avenue the more palpable the concern. >> i think that people want to get closer to the white house to be able to express their concerns and their feelings. >> reporter: and in new york city officials are preparing for protests. >> if anything turns violent we're going to move to stop that immediately. >> reporter: the big apple should be gearing up for the now
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reimagined macy's thanksgiving day parade due to covid-19. the windows of macy's flagship manhattan store, usually a draw unto themselves. instead, the store is all boarded up. in the time of coronavirus -- >> we're really hoping that everybody doesn't protest violently. >> reporter: -- a different kind of protection during an unprecedented election. stephanie elam, cnn, los angeles. >> well, let's hope for peace and calm. ahead for us, white house coronavirus task force member dr. deborah birx is now warning the u.s. is entering the most deadly phase of this pandemic, and her recommendations for aggressive action. next. what's inside airborne? a blast of immune support that's more than just vitamin c. it's a unique crafted blend of vitamins, minerals, and herbs. it's what makes airborne your daily dose of confidence. find our coupon in sunday's paper.
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viral specialist. let me read you two other lines from this internal white house report from dr. birx that are just so striking. she says, "we're entering the most concerning and most deadly phase of this pandemic, leading to increased mortality." she goes on to say, "this is not about lockdowns. it hasn't been about lockdowns since march or april. it's about an aggressive balanced approach that is not yet being implemented." the significance that she has to call out the white house and her own team on this, saying "we are not yet implementing what we need to do to deal with what will be the most deadly phase of this." >> i agree 100% with what she's saying, what dr. anthony fauci said recently in the "wall street journal." we have entered the most dangerous phase of this pandemic. and the statistics unfortunately have not been wrong up to this point. as we are going to be seeing 100,000 new cases a day.
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and if we do not take precautions immediately, perhaps upwards of 2,000 to 3,000 deaths a day. the equivalent really of eight jumbo jets crashing every day. yeah. and it's been said for a long time that we need to take precautions like masks. and in my opinion, to be quite honest, there should be a national mask mandate. it's time we stop kidding about this and realize how dangerous this is going to be. and we can really ameliorate it just by that one simple step. >> the sad fact is the president has made his approach clear. right? he will misinform. right? say that the country's turning the corner when the data points the other way and has refused to this point, unless he surprises us, to endorse things like mask mandates. given that even if there is a new president-elect after today, it will be three months before a president biden would take
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office. where does that leave the u.s. chances to get this second wave under control? the numbers are already bleak. but in that prospect of inaction makes it even bleaker. >> but you know, what we're doing right now, jim, we keep informing people, we keep telling them the truth. the fact that dr. fauci has come out and been sort of a maverick in this, which is actually created even -- the white house has he created even more of a disinformation campaign. the u.s. populace has to realize we have to take care of ourselves. if trump wins he may fire fauci because he can. and if he loses he may just have a scorched earth policy because he doesn't care. so at the end of the day every american has to be responsible for themselves, for everyone they come into contact with, for family members. and that includes, you know, the holy trinity, which is wearing masks, six feet of separation, and washing your hands all the
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time. >> well, one thing that we do know, though, is the president can't at least directly fire dr. fauci. that would have to come from the head of the nih. he can make his feelings even more known, but he doesn't have that power. significant given he's the most trusted doctor in america. we'd like to ask you about children because the american academy of pediatrics just came out overnight and said that the number of covid cases in kids is rising to "unprecedented levels." 61,000 new covid cases in children last week, larger than any previous week. i know they generally don't get severe symptoms and don't die at the rate that older americans do. but what is this about? what is causing this? and what should we take away from these numbers? >> well, what's causing this is that a lot more kids are going back to school and have gone back to school. i think, you know, the sort of fatigue that people are talking
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about, to be quite honest it doesn't really wash with me because we do just have to sort of button down and persevere. so kids are socializing. and even though right now the deaths and the illnesses in children are not as severe as in adults, we don't know what's going to happen to these children in the months or years to come. and secondly, they are going to be in contact with adults, with older adults, with people that are immune compromised. so it's important that nobody get it so that nobody spread it. but again, we don't know what's going to happen to these children in the years to come with these exposures. >> it's a good point. we had on a 13-year-old girl the other day with the long haul syndrome, symptoms from this. you make a good point. thank you, doctor. good to have you. >> good night. >> all right. you too. british prime minister boris johnson says the new surge of covid cases throughout england could be twice as bad as anything in the spring.
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tomorrow parliament will vote on a second nationwide lockdown that would go into effect at midnight on thursday. >> cnn's nick paton-walsh is in london. nick, the prime minister, johnson says there's no alternative no lockdown, warning of it being even worse than the spring. so what's that going to look like there? >> reporter: well, it will be allowing schools, universities, and colleges to remain open. that's different from what we saw in march, april, and may. but the same stay at home unless you have to and closing the bars, restaurants, and non-essential shops. that's the key to it. the problem really here is how the public goes along with it. now, in the parliamentary vote tomorrow boris johnson will likely have to rely on some votes from the opposition party who've long been calling for a lockdown like this because he's seeing a rebellion within his own ruling party's ranks. that's echoed by a rather divisive debate in british politics where party has sprung up, the anti-lockdown party. and anecdotally there's a lot of people you talk to who don't
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want these measures, who see the damage to the economy and somewhat callously think some people are going to die so perhaps that should play out. obviously the public health thing here is that everybody has to work together to reduce the transmission. but here in the uk the debate about it and the numbers too that boris johnson even cited were on the front page of a national newspaper yesterday. others suggesting that different projections prance should be being used, that it may not be as bad. the numbers are terrifying. i saw myself in the hospital in the northwest having lost a third of their patients in just one weekend in an icu there. it is potentially very bad in the weeks and months ahead. as is the divisive nature around this lockdown here. yes, the economy is suffering. yes, that could be worse than the disease in the long run. but still all the same measures have to be taken. jim, poppy? >> nick paton-walsh, we'll be watching. thanks very much. well, it is election day in america. toughn't voted, get out and vote. we have reporters in the key battleground states covering all the angles as only cnn can. please stay with our live special coverage.
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a very good early tuesday morning to you. it's a big day today for this country. i'm jim sciutto. >> it is a very big day, and we're so glad you're with us to start it. i'm poppy harlow, and the wait is over. election is here in less than two hours from now, a round of polling places will open their doors as millions of americans are expected to make their
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voices heard today. they will be joining the nearly 100 million people who have already cast their ballots, early voting in record numbers. >> 73% of the people that voted in 2016. it's a remarkable interest in this election but still a dwilddwil divided nation and a growing pandemic setting up the most important election at least in our lifetimes. both campaigns with very different closing arguments, but sharing the same goal, to win, turnout the base today, win the white house. we have reporters across the country in all the key battleground states. let's begin with cnn's drew griffin. he is in florida on what to expect there today. >> reporter: you can expect a very very busy day in florida, although you've got to ask, who out there has not yet voted. 62% of floridians registered to vote have already cast ballots and they're going to be accepting mail-in ballots at
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places just like this. very important that those ballots get dropped off here and not at the post office. even though the supervisors of elections are making plans to be at the post office to collect all those mail-in ballots. remember, the deadline for mail-in ballots in florida is 7:00 p.m. election night. after that, they do not count, no matter what postmark they have here in leon county in tallahassee. the supervisor of elections has police escorts later this evening to bring the ballots to him so they can be counted. how quickly will the count come in, hopefully, across the state of florida, a state that's known for having trouble counting ballots, this time, just about everybody is saying it's going to go smoothly and quickly. jim and poppy, we will see very soon. >> yes, we will. thank you for that. so to wisconsin, bill weir is
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standing by. >> reporter: jim, poppy, happy election day from wisconsin. my minute now, alarm clocks will be going up across the state, waking up clerks who will pour their coffee and begin counting 2 million ballots cast across the state. once they start, they cannot stop, so smaller towns up north that may lean towards president trump, those counts will take minutes, and they will be ready to announce when the polls close tonight, but clerks in places like milwaukee are saying brace for a long night. they have three shifts of 50 different counters, poll counters, ballot counters. socially distanced in a big facility in milwaukee. they say they will be counting until 3 or 4:00 a.m. on wednesday. the president sort of highlighting the importance of this battleground state and its 10 electoral college votes making one of his final argument symptoms here, choosing kenosha,
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a town still hurting after the police shooting of jacob blake and now waiting for the murder trial of kyle rittenhouse who has become a conservative celebrity in wisconsin in some circles that president trump would choose to come here, just highlighting the politics of division that he has employed trying to rally the base. i'll be itching to see if he adds more new members to the trump train that won the state for him in 2016. jim, poppy. >> bill weir, thank you so much. victor blackwell is in georgia, in a state that was a big win for trump in 2016. victor, what did you find? >> jim, poppy, polls open here in georgia in just a few hours. until then, this is the only place to vote at one of these official absentee ballot dropoff boxes. the secretary of state tells us that of the millions of ballots that have been sent out, about
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260 of them have not come back in. even with those outstanding ballots, georgia has set records during several weeks of early voting. 3.9 million votes cast through absentee mail-in or the in-person early votes, just shy of the 4.1 million votes cast in the 2016 election. that's a record expected to be broken today. if the polls are not extended because of long lines or technical problems, the supervisors of elections across the state tell me that they expect that they will be able to report many of those votes early in the evening because in part, they have been allowed by this new rule to start opening those mail-in ballots and scanning them in and then just start tabulation at 7:00 p.m. eastern when the polls close, and georgia is not the battleground like florida, but this year, we expect since it's a toss up, it
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will be influential to panint te picture of what we can expect throughout the evening. we can expect the big name surrogates for president trump and former vice president biden come here to the state including former president obama who was here on monday to try to drive up the vote in atlanta. polls close at 7:00 p.m. eastern here in georgia. jim, poppy. >> victor. thank you so much for that. let's go to the battleground state of north carolina now. dianne gallagher joins us in this state that could play a big role in the balance of power in the senate. >> reporter: we throw the word swing state, battleground around a lot, but north carolina is a state that not only do those running for president need to win but it also has this hotly contested senate race that could determine the balance of the senate. all eyes have been on this southern state. so far, around 4 pn.6 million nh
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carolinians have cast their ballots. that's around 95% of the total 2016 turnout. it's also about 62% of all registered voters. election officials say they still expect a pretty healthy turnout on election day. now, look, when it comes to what's going to happen, north carolina has been processing those absentee by mail ballots since the last week of september. the state board is pretty confident that it's going to be releasing the early in-person voting numbers and the absentee by mail numbers that were received by the day before the election within the hours after polls close at 7:30 p.m. eastern. they say that they really expect that they should be able to have about 97% of the results. of course these are unofficial results, by the end of election night. jim, poppy. they do say there's about 145,000 absentee ballots that are still outstanding.
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those people can still turn them in at their county board of elections or put it in the mail as long as it's received by 5:00 p.m. on november 12th. and is postmarked by election day. jim, poppy. >> thank you so much to all of our correspondents there. let's discuss some of the bigger picture issues with tim nefta lirks, gre li, great to have you on as always. the president continues to attack this election as somehow rigs, particularly if he loses. there have been a whole host of obstacles to prevent people from voting. most have been defeated in court. when you look at the number of people voting, nearly 100 million people already, record turnout expected following today. how do you take that as a historian. do you take that as the public, american citizens pushing back
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on an idea that they can't trust their elections, that they can't vote, they can't make a difference? >> my first reaction is as a citizen, and the right to vote is our right to participate in our broader democracy, and it is a very healthy sign that already almost 100 million americans have sought to participate in this all-important democratic institution, so i think it shows the healthneiness that despite e disinformation to discourage people from voting by mail, despite all of that misinformation, so many americans turned out, have turned out to vote, and i believe we will see many americans turning out to vote today wearing masks, socially distancing, in order to participate in their democracy. it's a healthy sign. >> tim, how do you think
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americans will remember this election outside of who wins? >> this is a hugely important election. we have had elections before in national emergencies. we have had elections where incumbents have sought reelection at a time of a national emergency. this is the first time that the two major candidates disagree on the nature of the national emergency. in 1864 lincoln was seeking reelection. his opponent accepted that there was a civil war. in this case, we have an incumbent who has not fully accepted the nature of the challenge to our society. he has doubted the lethality of the pandemic, and he has encouraged what have turned out
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to be in some cases super spreader events. that is a fundamental difference about the election. so the outcome of this election is going to say something about what the american people believe about the pandemic and the extent to which it is a national crisis. this is also the first election where an impeached president is seeking to be reelected. this has never happened before. our previously impeached presidents were second term presidents or presidents who then decided not to run again. if the american people reelect the impeached president, it will say a lot going forward about what the american people believe about abuse of power and a president's responsibility to share information to congress. >> you're a historian of many things but you're a nixon historian. did the country recover, in large part, from the damage of watergate, from the long national nightmare as president gerald ford described it. are there lessons in how the
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nation recovered from that divisive time to now? >> there are lessons. there are also worrying signs. the reason why the country was able to recover was that there was a bipartisan acceptance that crimes and abuse of power had been committed. republicans joined with democrats in saying never again. they joined together and wrote legislation, passed legislation, which improved, raised the bar for ethics in government, that lowered the bar for access to information, that ensured other elements of privacy to prevent the kinds of abuses that richard nixon had attempted to do, and had done. the problem today is we don't have a bipartisan agreement on the nature of the challenges to our constitutional system posed by president trump. so the lessons of watergate involve the nation deciding not only to move forward but to build a stronger set of
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institutions to avoid corruption and abuses in the future. this election will determine the extent to which we have a national consensus that we shouldn't repeat the constitutional crisis, and the abuses of power that we saw. >> talways good to draw on your sense of history on a day like today, in particular. thank you. >> thank you, jim. still to come, 270, that is the winning number everyone will be watching for tonight. we're going to break down the candidates, both candidates', particular paths to victory. after month of talk in washington, the national comes to election day without a second stimulus deal. millions of americans in need of help, and tonight's winner will likely impact their future on this front. we're going to discuss it all with the former white house economic adviser kevin hassett
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paths to victory, but election officials across the country are warning voters to be patient. it might take a while to determine the winner. >> listen, that just comes with counting a lot of these mail-in votes. . there may be, however, early clues to look out for. cnn's john king at the magic wall where we expect him to be to walk us through some of the scenarios. >> the tu mutumultuous pandemic campaign, we determine who is the next president of the united states. let's use the 2016 map for pointers on what to watch for on election night. patience is required in this pandemic election because of a good thing, overwhelming early and mail-in voting by americans have many states thinking they will be overwhelmed in the count and it could take some time. three states in particular, the three states that made donald trump president, pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin, once the democratic blue wall flipped, all three say it could take them
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into wednesday, perhaps longer to count the mail-in ballots and know who the winner is. especially if it's close. pennsylvania says it could go to thursday or friday if it's skve close. we need patience, number one. we will get clues. some states good at counting mail-in ballots, florida, and north carolina, both red in 2016. both critical if the president is going to pull out an election day surprise with massive turnout, he has to win florida and north carolina. as we get into late tuesday night, those states reporting more and more vote totals, we should get a clue. if joe biden could carry florida or north carolina or both. that would be a statement. something to watch. another state that expects to finish early, arizona. not as big in the electoral college but again, reliably red state for a long time, back to the bill clinton then. if that flipped it would give us a sign on election night. the battle of course, we
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remember 2016, we pick presidents not by the popular vote. joe biden is expected to win the popular vote, some think by a bigger margin than four years ago. we pick president state by state. donald trump is president because of the electoral college. again, joe biden, a comfortable lead here, a modest lead here, and a modest lead here, just flipping the so called blue wall, rebuilding it for the democrats, that would make joe biden president of the united states. he does see an opportunity, again, to do florida, to take north carolina, maybe arizona. some democrats have dreams. they're close in texas, close in traditionally republican iowa, close in traditionally republican iowa. it's possible if the election breaks to joe biden, they could make a statement election. the assumption is maybe trump is strong in traditionally republican areas, protect up here. if you're the president of the united states, you have a steeper hill now than you did in the dramatic election day surge in 2016. the president of the united states needs to keep florida, needs to keep north carolina,
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and then perhaps if he loses arizona, if he could get pennsylvania back, that puts him right back in the game. that's a tie right there. 269, 269. a congressional district here, a congressional district here, nebraska and maine pick their presidents that way, divide by congressional district. if the president could get wisconsin back, that would do it, which why in the end, we may have to wait for the votes. the blue wall states critical to the democrats, advantage joe biden going in. here's how we ended 2016. pretty soon we find out how we end 2020. >> yes, we do. john king, thank you. as always. dr. deborah birx has a dire warning, saying we're entering the most deadly phase. what she says needs to be done next. businesses today are looking to tomorrow. adapting. innovating.
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the expected fall surge of covid-19 infections, sadly it's here. in just one monthin, the srncous 7-day case average jumped by more than 97%. >> el paso, texas, is one city that hit a tragic milestone, an all time high of hospitalizations in the pandemic. when hospitalizations climb, deaths are likely to follow. the city is going as far as adding a fourth mobile morgue unit, and opening the civic center to hold additional patients. we're joined now by doctor esth esther chu a professor of
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medicine at oregon health in portland. you wrote just about a month ago from a health perspective, the upcoming u.s. election could be the most consequential in our lifetime that was a month ago. and here we sit today in a week where we are seeing a record number of daily cases. >> yeah, the other thing we said in that piece, which i wrote with dr. aaron carroll was the candidates have one or two choices, either admit that we have been a failure up to this point in our pandemic response or they could deny that it was a problem, and doggedly stick to a course that was almost certain to make us have increases in cases and in hospitalizations and deaths. and i really think our two candidates have chosen their corners and that's where we are going into this day. and i think voters will see that and will make decisions based on their own priorities. >> let's talk, if we can, about election day in particular and
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voters' decisions about to vote, and how to vote. you have some recommendations for folks who want to go, if they haven't mailed in their ballot, want to go to polling stations today, how best to do it safely. >> i think all of the things that we have been telling people to do in general are true in polling stations and fortunately, the polling stations have been great about following cdc guidelines and making it easy for people to comply with these things. things like social distancing, we're seeing on sidewalks leading up to polling stations that they are clearly marked. it seems like people are really doing their kind of community part in encouraging each other to stick to those guidelines. everybody should show up wearing a mask, and bring an extra one if their mask gets dirty or wet if they're waiting outside. bring an extra pen, hand sanitizer, and plan to be quick in, quick out, you see a friend,
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that's great, wave, but it's the congregating around the time of polling that we worry about. as far as the way that it's set up, the way they're moving people in for one-way traffic and making sure standards for keeping commonly shared surfaces clean, the polling places seem to have it down pat. >> i did think it was notable seeing early this morning the cdc has put on their web site basically permission for people even with covid to go vote in person. they said this is your right as an american you can do it. you have to do it safely, wear a mask, social distancing, et cetera, but i thought that was notable for anyone who may be watching now, who feels like if they haven't voted absentee or early, now they can't vote. the cdc is saying they can. what do you think about that? >> yeah, i saw that and it was, you know, i thought it was
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remarkable in its simplicity. i mean, it's almost a statement of a fact more than a medical recommendation. they're saying people who are in isolation or quarantine have the right to vote. i mean, just a simple fact, and so given that situation, here's what we recommend, and it really is all the same things we recommend for other people. the one thing is they ask people who know they test positive or are under quarantine do notify the polling workers when they arrive on site. pay them that courtesy so then they can take extra precautions with those people, whether it's with extra personal protective equipment as they come close to those people or moving those people in priority lines and getting them out faster. your polling station may have places specifically kind of triaging people who are under isolation or quarantine so they can get them in and out and keep other people safer. in general, polling places are set up with the presumption that we are going to have people who
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we don't know are sick who could spread it. so i think that little extra layer provides some reassurance to other people who are going to vote. >> listen, everyone has the right to vote and that's priority. before we go, just, can you paint a picture for people who are concerned when they hear these alarming predictions from a doctor birx or dr. fauci about exactly where this pandemic is headed? describe it to us. >> yeah, it is hard to overstate how grim things are going into the winter. i mean, here we are setting records almost every single day for case counts, and this is not testing, by the way, this is cases that are out pacing any increase in testing, and what we have seen every step of the way is when we see an increase in cases followed by hospitalizations and that is followed by deaths, and already, as you mentioned, many of our hospitals across the country are being overwhelmed and that is an
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incredibly dangerous thing to see going into the winter because we're about to be hit with flu, and although we have been celebrating improvements in mortality, i want to be really clear, when hospitals are overwhelmed, we cannot provide the best and safest care and hospital workers start getting sick too, and we still don't have enough personal protective equipment. all of this is coming together like the perfect storm. this is keeping us awake at night. this is very concerning, and i am not a dramatic person. but we're all worried. >> well, as you say, dr. birx said, too, cases are going up not because we're testing more but because sadly, the virus is spreading. dr. esther chu, thank you very much. there is no new stimulus deal in sight as millions of americans continue to struggle and are desperate for help as i that face a grueling winter.
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and say yesss! to linzess. as the world anxiously awaits the results of the election, wall street is bracing as well. the "wall street journal" reports investors are heading into what could be the most volatile week for markets all year. we are also heading into what will be, we know, a volatile winter with coronavirus. and as the final ballots are cast, "the washington post" reports that millions of americans are at risk, we know, of having their power shut off, their water shut off because of unpaid utility bills largely for those out of work because congress has failed to reach another stimulus agreement. with me now is the former senior economic adviser to president trump, kevin hassett.
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it's really good to have you. thanks for getting up with us. on october 6th, we spoke that evening just as the president cut off stimulus talks before restarting them, you said to me that it was unfortunate and you said we remain closed to edge of an economic calamity. and that was weeks ago, and look where we are now. i don't have to tell you, 8 million more people are in poverty than were in may. the list goes on and on and on, whoever wins, biden or trump, what needs to be their number one priority on the economy to help these millions of americans? >> right. well, i think if you look at how well the economy is doing, you know, through the third quarter, the recovery is way above expectation because democrats and republicans worked together very well on three phases of stimulus bill back in the spring. on the phase four bill, i worked on that before i left the white house for a second time, an outline to a deal that worked so
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well the first three times. i thought we were about to have a deal, the house added poison pills, to them. they probably decided they didn't want a stimulus bill before the election. the point is after the election, i think everybody's going to go back to that mood they were in when we passed the phase 3 deal, and i would expect that the markets should start to price a deal after the election. >> but you would agree that largely what drove that third quarter enormous rebound in economic growth was largely stimulus funded? right, you cannot have anything close to that continue without more stimulus. >> i think that's a good way to say it. the way i like to think about it is just that we went down a lot, and like more than 30%, and we went up a lot. again, more than 30%, but the issue is if you go from 100 to 70 and go up 30%, you only go up 21% relative to where you started. so you're still down a lot.
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even though the numbers look the same, we're down a lot. and we're down so much that in a normal recession, we wouldn't have dropped as much as we did after this recovery. have their recession cap on when doing their policy planning, and we should act aggressively to make sure this doesn't turn into a recession. if the covid virus continues to stick around and stick around that the economic consequences are going to be extreme the farther in we go. there are businesses treading water, just barely holding on, if it's a restaurant, maybe they've got takeout but not dine-in and sooner or later they're going to start to fall like dominos, and it's really important to get aid to them. >> really soon. i mean, 40% of restaurant owners nationwide say they expect to go out of business by march without more stimulus. two out of three hotels are not expected to last another six months without help, and i just ask about the urgency because a guy that you hired to work for
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you at cea, kcasey mulligan tol "the washington post" about the president post election quote i don't think he's got much interest in stimulus. he doesn't like to give anything for free. i don't think he's going to start now. that's not his style. do you agree with him? >> i respect casey a lot, and on this one i would respectfully disagree. i think that what we have all been hoping for, and it's something that is, you know, outside of our area of expertise is all of a sudden there's a vaccine, everybody can go back to normal, at that point, you'll need a little bit of stimulus but not anything like 3 or 4 trillion, but if you're telling me right now the coronavirus sadly is going to continue to be going up in terms of case count, going at least horizontally to up in terms of mortality, then you're looking at a situation where most places are closed for a good long time, and you're going to need a much bigger stimulus than we have had, something along the lines of what the president and secretary
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mnuchin were working on right up to the election with nancy pelosi. >> let me ask you about an economy ahead, once there is a vaccine and if the president wins another term because he made a ton of economic promises, as you know, kevin. this is largely what we ran on, promised to grow the economy 4% a year. that didn't happen. i'm talking about before the pandemic. he promised to eliminate, his word, the national debt in 8 years, instead it's ballooned over 27 trillion, and he promised to bring back u.s. manufacturing jobs. we're actually about 237,000 manufacturing jobs less than where we were, have been lost under the president. my question is if the american people decide he deserves another term, should we expect those things to be fulfilled? or are those pie in the sky, realistically? >> i think if you look at the u.s. economy as of january, before covid really took off in the u.s. and forced us to shut things down, that it was the
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best economy that i have seen in my lifetime. it was the best economy since world war ii. >> we were adding to the debt, and we only saw 2 1/2% growth. he made big promises and they didn't come true. >> that's not true at all, poppy. as an example in 2019, the median real wages grew by more than 4,000. >> i agree with you on the wage point. >> and african-american wages grew more than caucasian americans, the bottom wage growth was 3%. only about 1 1/2% for the top. income inequality was declining. if you take the same policies, they should take you to the same place if we get past the covid pandemic, and economies around the world have done a lot worse than us, i think in part, for me, the under covered story of this partisan season. republicans and democrats work together to design some really effective stimulus that passed with unanimous consent, and so
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on. so despite the fact that they're shooting arrows at each other, they understood there's a national emergency, and did the right thing. we're in a better spot despite the horrible health tragedy. >> i don't disagree with you on the wage point. it's an important point. i bring it up with your liberal friends as well. these are big economic promises that were made on growth and on eliminating the national debt as well that the american people are banking on. we have to leave it there for time, but come back soon, kevin. >> thanks, poppy. great to be here. >> jim. >> well, what will this election mean for our relationships abroad, how our allies and our adversaries are viewing election day here in the u.s. we're going to discuss next. ♪ ♪ ♪ since pioneering the suv in 1935, the chevy suburban has carried many things.
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the polls are opening in a number of states in an hour now. voters who cast their ballots before today shattered records. >> nearly 100 million people voted early by mail or in person. that is more than 70% of the total number of people who voted all in all in 2016. here's pamela brown with a closer look at those amazing
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numbers. >> hi there jim and poppy. we have seen record early voting turnout in states across the country. in fact, in several states, arizona, you have hawaii, you have texas, you have nevada, well, the voting in those states, the early voting surpassed all of the voting they had in 2016. this all happening before polls open across the country, and republicans, the trump campaign, are banking on explosive turnout to outweigh all of the early votes coming from democrats that leaned heavily democratic, and all of this is coming as we're seeing these last minute, down to the wire lawsuits happening. there are republican plaintiffs making these last minute push to get the ballots tossed out, more than 100,000 ballots tossed out that voters made through a drive-through in texas, they lost in the texas supreme court, conservative leaning. they lost with this george w.
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bush appointed judge who basically rejected their argument and rejected it on technical grounds and said they waited too long to file this case. and yet they are still appealing this. of course, this was an accommodation that was put into place in harris county, texas. a large county in texas, democratic leaning the past few elections, in order to make voters feel safer to cast their ballots. so those republican plaintiffs are continuing with that push. just because they're making the appeal, though, doesn't mean it will be taken up. a nevada judge handed a loss to republicans and another win to democrats. these republican plaintiffs in this case had challenged the signature matching machines that election officials were using in clark county. that's the home to vegas and nevada. they were challenging that. they were challenging the fact that they didn't think they could get close enough to observe what was going on but of course there have been distancing restrictions put into place because of the pandemic, and the nevada judge didn't buy
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their argument there, and they lost on that too. now, as we await for polls to open, the big question is what litigation are we going to see on election day. that remains to be seen, and we'll be keeping a close eye on it. back to you, jim and poppy. >> thank you so much, pamela. the world is watching this election today with great interest. the future of so many relationships with the u.s. hanging in the balance. will it be four more years of a transactional america first foreign policy from a president who is still a businessman. of course four more years of america first or guided by a senate former relations, a vice president with a traditional mainstream standing of america in the world. joining me editorial board member for bloomberg, and the america and americas program at the royal institute of international affairs. thanks to both of you. bobby, i wonder if i could begin with you. if you look at the pugh survey,
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great poll, international, measuring america's standing, favorability it's at historically low levels in the age of trump. i wonder, do you see that changing based on this election? of course if he's reelected, perhaps not, but with a new president, what's behind it? >> i think if there's a change in the white house, there will be an immediate bump in those numbers. how far they will go is a little hard to predict, but we did see this when barack obama followed george bush, another american president who was unpopular in large part in the world. barack obama, when he became president, got an immediate benefit of the doubt across the kwor world, and there was a significant uptick in appreciation for the united states. i think you'll see the same thing happen here. trump has been such an outlier, such an unpredictable and for many people around the world, such a divisive and destructive
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force that america's standing has fallen quite dramatically as those numbers have shown us. with joe biden, i'm not sure that people necessarily think he has the same charisma and same appeal as barack obama, but just the fact that he's not donald trump itself is quite important, and as you pointed out in your intro, this is not some stranger coming out of nowhere. this is a man with decades of foreign policy experience. there's a reassurance of a return to predictability with relations in america. >> it's not just president trump's likability, right, i mean, he has departed from decades old american principles in terms of how it approaches the world. he's cozying up to dictators that american presidents used to stand up to, and his attacks on alliances that american presidents with both parties were devoted to, nato,
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relationships with canada, mexico. how easily is that turned around even if there is a new president? >> i think it depends very much on what vice president biden does. it's certainly the case as we just heard that an election of vice president biden would certainly have a very positive. very well received certainly across europe and the united kingdom. 76% of those people polled would like to see the vice president elected. what does he do, there's some immediately obvious gains that would be popular in europe and far beyond, whether it's recommitting the united states to the paris accords, recommitting the united states to the world health organization. reaffirming that america takes nato seriously. but as you suggested, it's so important, i think, for so many people to be able to look to america as committing to the values of democracy, of
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liberalism, human rights, being able to conduct a free and fair election. people are watching to see what it is that america does today, and how it's handled in the days ahead, and they are judging america based on what it does at home. >> listen, bobby, that is no small thing, as you watch some o. president-- of the presidents on this election steps taken to restrict voting rather than expand voting, it echoes steps that a previous american president of either party might have called out if he were to observe it, he or she were to observe it in another country. i wonder how seriously folks overseas take that when they look at what's happening in the u.s. right now with this election. do they look at it as a genuine threat to sort of the american principle of free and fair elections. >> i think they absolutely do. a lot of the things that we are seeing, the rhetoric and the actions that we are seeing now
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in the lead up to this election will be familiar to people in liberal parts of the world, their governments and their dictators speak like this, say things like this, and so they have long held america as different as something aspirational, and it will be distressing for them. america's enemies, this is all meat and potatoes, this is nothing but good news for someone like xi jinping, or vladimir putin, because it allows them directly or indirectly to say to their people, you think america is a big shining on the hill. it's not shining. it's worse. it gives reassurance to america's enemies. it gives reassurance to those who have long railed against the american system, so this election has been like none i have ever covered before, and particularly now, seeing it from abroad, i have been living in europe for the last couple of
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years. it's quite astonishing to see how, even though who are deeply cynical about democracy or deeply cynical about what politicians in general say are quite distressed by what they're seeing happen in the united states. it cuts through even the cynicism. >> you know, personally, and nationally, right, reputations are difficult to build, easy to lose or to damage. i just wonder,le leslie, as you see this president pull the u.s. out of international agreements, the iran nuclear deal, the paris accords, does one election restore, and again, we don't know what's going to happen today in this election, but does one political change, political cycle restore that kind of confidence or is there some lasting damage here? >> there are certainly a lot of people here in the united kingdom and across europe who think that even if vice president biden is reelected that there's no going back to
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the old transatlantic partnership, to the old form of america's internationalism that donald trump was at least in large part a symptom of a deeper, longer term change in the united states, but i have to say i'm skeptical. i think that if vice president biden is elected, if he recommits to science, to facts, to democracy, to clarity, to diplomacy, and actually takes america back into those international institutions and those partnerships, i think we will see quite a profound level of support. remember that, kwhowhoever take over on january 20th, will be taking over at the time of grave crisis. the desire for american leadership is very very high, and people are hoping, what i'm seeing is that people are skeptical but they're hoping for america today, and they're very buoyed by the news of voter turnout, by the cases that are
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being won against voter suppression. so a lot hangs in the balance. i think we'll be surprised at how much things change if the election goes to vice president biden. >> leslie, bobby gosh. thank you so much to both of you. >> and thanks to all of you for staying up half the night with us. we appreciate it. it is election day in america. i'm poppy harlow. >> and i'm jim sciutto, please go out and vote if you haven't already. it's a big day today, and "new day" will start after a quick break. fuel 5 indicators of brain performance. memory, focus, accuracy, learning, and concentration. try our new gummies for 30 days and see the difference.
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