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about. >> have you received any legal challenges at all from the president or his campaign or his supporters? >> to my knowledge, they did move to intervene in the baseless lawsuit over the sharpies. >> skrus remind our viewers because that was totally ridiculous. tell our viewers, it's got a lot of publicity. remind us what happened. >> maricopa county, the tabulators that they used, the manufacturer recommends sharpies as the ballot marking pens. that's what the poll workers gave the voters and somebody somewhere decided this was bad because in some counties you can't use sharpied because it ple bleeds through. we still count the votes but in this case it was not causing any problems. there were no ballots jekted
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because of the sharpies. it spread like wildfire. we're now dealing with lawsuit over. >> to that degree, there are democratic governors in pennsylvania, the president doesn't like the way the vote count went. there's democratic voters in michigan and wisconsin. the preponderate doesn't like the fact joe biden won the state. you have a republican governor, i saw a statement from him earlier saying every legally cast ballot should be counted. didn't say anything about irregularity or fraud. do you feel any political pressure in arizona or has this been a bipartisan effort to count the votes and do it right? are you nervous about the political dynamics here in. >> it's absolutely been a bipartisan effort and regardless of what anyone says, we are going to keep counting the ballots. that's what we're legally required to do and that's what is happening. >> grateful for your time. i know you're very busy trying to get this count first named. we're grateful for your time and transparency. thank you. >> thank you so much. we got a key race alert.
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let's check out the numbers for key battleground states. let's start off in arizona with this 11 electoral votes. # 4% of the estimated vote is in. biden maintains his lead. it shungrunk a little bit. in nevada right now, 93% of test mated vote is in. six looelectoral votes in nevan. biden maintains his lead. in pennsylvania right now. that's the big prize. 20 electoral votes. 96% offest sh esthe estimated v. biden has 49.5%. trump has 49.2%. in georgia right now, 99%. almost all of the votes are in. 16 ooelectoral votes. 4, 273.
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49.4%. 49.3% for trump. those are the key battleground states. john, let's go through those four states right now. tell us what we're waiting for. let's review because this is a ball game right now. >> this is the ball game and could be the decisive night friday night. the election was tuesday. let's start in the biggest prize on the board. pennsylvania, 20 electoral votes. donald trump must win it to stay many the hunt for re-election. must win it. the president has to win this state. joe biden doesn't need it but if he wins it, pennsylvania would put him over the top. you see a joe biden lead of 16,784 votes. at 9:00 this lead was 5,500 votes. joe biden has been growing his lead but steadily and consistently throughout the day. joe biden is winning the county and he's been getting even higher percentage when they count these mail in billion
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lots. m more ballots to come. you want to see that get up higher. we're not ready to project in pennsylvania yet. the president cannot lose pennsylvania. the only path to 270. it includes pennsylvania and georgia. he needs both of these. you see joe biden now. this morning it was 1,097 votes. joe biden lead's has grown. this is close. 49.4. 49.3. the secretary of state saying most likely will have a recount. the trump campaign can request that and wants one. we're watsing here as we're waiting for them to count some additional outstanding mail in ball los. they are waiting to see what military ballots and overseas ballots. the ballots must be returned by tonight. they sent out thousands of them.
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durnts guarantee they will all come back. s >> pennsylvania right now. we have a special guest, bryan. you'll have new information for our viewers. very important information. >> reporter: that's right, wolf. some exclusive information to cnn. new results from allegheny county. results from damaged ballots counted and military ballots. let's have the numbers. >> they processed 5,345 ballots. joe biden 4,134. for donald trump, 1,076. >> all right. joe biden with clear victory.
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not vak tri but clearly ahead so far in the count. how many total ballots are outstanding at this point. >> it's hard to say. we have the 29,000 they will begin processing. the 17,000 or so provisionals and there's still probably maybe 1500 or so military ballots to do. there's a couple thousands military and overseas ballots in these numbers as well. >> the 29,000 segregated ballots with misprints on them, you're start that process now. about how long do you think it will take before we get those results? >> it's hard to say. they just began that. i don't have an estimate of how many they do per hour or how much they do per time. i'll get that. we'll have it in an hour or so. >> will we get them at the same time or little by little in. >> probably whatever they finish or not finish but whatever they get done later on in the evening, they will post those numbers and they will continue to process tomorrow and on into sunday if they have to.
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>> one fmore time if you can red the numbers among the materiear counted votes. >> come bieping regular votes plus the military ballots, 4,134 for joe biden. 1,076 for president. >> thank you very much. thank you for your patience and bearing with us. thank you very much. >> reporter: wolf, what they have told us is they had expected these -- the ballot counters and poll workers to work from 9:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. they will extend that to try to get the results in earlier. >> so nice to give us the numbers. thank you very, very much. john, let's talk about that. that's an impressive batch of new votes coming in for biden. it's not official yet but i can tell you what the new lead for biden is going to . it hasn't been processed yet. biden's lead is 19,842.
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almost 20,000 vote lead that biden has in pennsylvania right now as you can see. trump only got 1,000. >> repeat the numbers statewide so our viewers can see it. that's the current lead. we're waiting for the numbers. they will be put into the system. that 16784 will go up to. >> 19,842. it will be processed very soon. we'll see it up on the board. right now we haven't see it yet. >> we appreciate the cooperation there. what does that tell you? it tells you that's going to grow. the statewide lead growing in the ballpark of 20,000 votes. that's a significant milestone as it passes that. number two, what else does it tell you? you're look for the pattern. joe biden is receiving 60%. shy of 59% of the vote to 40% for the president. again, in the mail in ballots they are counting and this batch includes some military ballots,
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joe biden has been over performing. getting a higher percentage in that count than the overall count. here it is again. 77% in this batch of votes compared to 59% there. as you're watching the trajectory in pennsylvania as they count what is left,ballots. joe biden is over performing consistently. not always. there's been a couple of exceptions in ruby red republican counties but joe biden is over performing in these ballots than in the overall vote count which is an important signal as you try to decide is this math getting to the point of inevitability. that thousands will be added to the president's total there. again, i'll flip it off the screen. that 16,000 is now close to 20,000 thanks to the hustle of bryan. again, what are you doing here? still some more outstanding ballots here. we're trying to count them.
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we know you're waiting to see a winner. the trajectory grows toward 20,000 and we're still waiting. they have some more ballots here they are working on and have some more ballots out in the southeast part of the state here including in philadelphia where former vice president is getting joe biden is getting 80% plus. >> some perspective. four years ago, trump won pennsylvania. he beat hillary clinton but let's remind viewers he won by. >> 44,000 votes. 44,292. a fiercely competitive state four years ago. an absolute critical building block of president trump's victory. this one, 20 electoral votes is the biggest prize. again, this is not -- if joe biden goes onto win this state, that's the trajectory at the moment, it's not because donald trump had collapse of support in the commonwealth of
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pennsylvania. 2.9 approximate vote four years ago. 2.3 now. the president turned out his vote in a pa. joe biden just turned out more. >> you can see that number now. he's leading trump in state of pennsylvania. critically important state right now. as you pointed out, so many times in the could you rephrase these day, 20 electoral votes in pennsylvania. trump right now -- biden has 253. he gets 20, you do the math. he's got 273. you just need 270. you're elected president. >> at a time when some people are questioning why is this taking so long. numbers have been updated up there. you see it. thanks to bryan's hustle. people are raising question, why is it take long. you saw what's happening. camera in the room. a reporter in the room. democrats and republicans watching in the room as public ser vanvant count votes. >> it was overwhelming because of a, turn out.
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higher turn out plus the three different ways people voted. it's take longer but wide open. that's how you build trust in elections. >> i love the transparency and the officials being willing to talk about what's going on and share what's going on with the american public. jan jake, over to you. >> as we say in philadelphia, trust the process. i want to go to jim acota right now who is covering the trump white house. jim, right now one of the big questions hanging over this country like a dark cloud is whether or not president trump is prepared to accept the ugly reality that it looks like he will soon be facing. do you have some news for us on that front? >> reporter: i talked to a source familiar with some of the legal discussions and the source said the president is starting to acknowledge to advisers around him he may not be able to
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pull out some of kind of come from behind victory in this race against joe biden. does that mean he's planning to concede? no. does that mean he's not going to file appeals around the country? no. it's a sign he's starting to be realistic. the realistic is the word the source used when i spoke to the person a short time ago. the source pointed the president's tweet from earlier today that was toned down compared to the performance we saw in the white house briefing room last night. a sort of modulated tone from the president there. does that mean he's going to give this up any time soon? not necessarily. the president according to the source, these legal discussions is starting to acknowledge he may not be able to pull this out. one other thing that is important note, the source went on the say the picture is becoming clearer to the president's team that without wins in georgia and arizona, it would be difficult to launch some kind of legal challenge in pennsylvania. if the president can't get to 270 electoral votes, a court
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would say, according to this source, what's the point of moving further. if the president can't win georgia. if he can't win arizona, what's the point of a legal challenge in pennsylvania if he can't get to 270 votes. that's part of these legal discussions going on behind the scenes. have we seen a puff of white smoke coming from the west wing yet, no we have not. it is an indication that perhaps the president is starting, maybe, beginning to accept the reality of the situation that he may not be able to pull this out. >> all right. i'll believer it when i see it. thanks so much. let us talk about the hypothetical of us calling one of these states for joe biden when our data crunchers are confident of it. i know there's a lot of frustrated people out there. i understand why. we're just trying to make sure we get it right.
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if joe biden becomes the president-elect. he will be presiding over a country he's severed more of this country of anyone that's won for president. it's 74 million plus right now. also, he will be the president of more than 69, almost 70 million people, as of now, who voted for trump. he has made it his calling card. he's said he will be the president for every american. not just those who voted for him which is quite a departure from what we have been getting from president trump who has really been president of his supporters and not so much reaching out to other people as a general rule. how does joe biden handle that? how does joe biden reach out to these 69, 70 million americans who went with donald trump? >> well, i think you said it earlier. if there's anybody who is made for that moment in the democratic party, it is joe
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biden. he genuinely has a multi-decade history of doing just that. his work will be cut out for him. these numbers in general, joe biden has already won more votes than anybody in american history but donald trump, almost 70 million people think he should have another term. that's pretty remarkable. that is one of the reasons why donald trump -- as jim acosta was saying trump advisers are saying try to say come on keep fighting. many of them are not. many are trying to get him to place where he feels okay with kind of moving along. it's like trying to grab an iceberg with your bare hands and push. it's really, really hard. the other challenge is given these numbers, is it's not just donald trump. it's moving all of his
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supporters along slowly. it's taking them slowly off the exit ramp. it's not an easy thing. >> ramp at west point. >> kind of like the ramp at west point. it's a slow walk down the ramp. some of it is they have to manage the president but it's also managing the supporters who kind of need to understand the process and move through it in a slower way. >> that's right. i think president trump is always nursing his supporters feelings and emotions but in this case, he is actually doing more to make that process harder and not easier. there's a reason why people in this country typically concede even before votes officially certify in the electoral college. it's because doing that early helps encourage your supporters to go along with the process.
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the president is not doing that. it's creating a situation in which biden's work will be cut out for him because this incumbent president is making it harder. there is -- you get the sense that one of the reasons for this is because of president trump's own experience with 2016 and a sense of grievance how he came into office feeling he was being undermined and delegitimatized in his presidency. you get a sense there's a feeling like, it's at least fair for other republicans to do the same to biden. that's is what's motivating so much of this. how does joe biden deal with that? it's not clear. the problem for biden is that this is four years in making of grievance from the president about the impeachment, about the russia investigation that's manifesting itself. >> more than that. it's about how nobody thought he was going to win and all that. let's go to wilington, delaware.
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i know that a lot of people in the biden campaign thought that major news organizations were going to have called some sort of permutation of states so he would be president-elect right now and the data crunchers have not made those determinations yet. is he still planning on speaking this evening? >> reporter: that is one of the key questions about tonight. his campaign had announced that it was expected that joe biden and his running mate kamala harris would be delivering some type of primetime remarks this evening but the question still remains whether or not that is going to happen if the race has not been called at this moment. biden's campaign is closely watching those results that are coming in tonight, including in pennsylvania which is one of those states that they really
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hope could put them over the top of 270 electoral votes. aids started t -- aides started that today would be the day that it's called his joe biden's favor. it may take bit longer for that to happen. the public activity has been night and day to what we have seen the previous days. there was no election briefing from the campaign's top advisers. there's been no tweets from joe biden or his running mate kamala harris. the last time that we heard from joe biden was a little over 26 hours ago where he urged people to remain calm and patient as the vote count continued. one thing that we are still waiting to hear is if the former vice president will speak tonight as his campaign had reviewed he was expected to do. here at the chase center a little while ago we saw some staffers up on stage doing a bit of a run through.
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we saw two people walk out and wave their hands as if they were practicing for something and then they walked behind the podium. for now, preparations still remain under way here at the chase center. a site that's gone unused for several days a this point. >> thank you so much. just to keep on the point you're ma making. up with of the points about president trump processing the fact he may lose and trying to bring his supporters along with him, all 69 plus million is, as you note, he has spent the last several months saying that this was going to be a fraud. since election day he has been lying about the results of the election. first declaring victory. he said he won michigan and wisconsin. he did not win michigan and wisconsin. he continues to -- it's not just
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sowing seeds of doubt, lying. accusing people of stealing the election. i don't know how one makes that pivot to use a word from accusi accusing joe biden and the democrats a big media and big tech, et cetera, et cetera of stealing an election, which is not being done. there's no evidence of that anywhere. then just saying but i'm going to go home. how do you do that? >> one doesn't. president trump has been pretty clear that he doesn't think that he needs to. he recently in an interview with axios talked about hillary clinton and whether or not he was asked about hillary clinton conceded to you the next morning. will you do the same? his response was effectively i don't think she ever really
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conceded. i don't think she ever really acknowledged that i was duly elected. she kept talking about the russia investigation. in his mind, even though hillary clinton did concede to him. in his mind, she didn't really because she never truly believed he was duly elected president. we should note the night of the election, four years ago, president obama called hillary clinton and urged her to accept what was apparent before her. she did. the question is for president trump, who will do that for him and will he listen in. >> a lot of that will be dictated and determine bid the votes that we're seeing and how they are counted and when they are counted and we were talking about this earlier. we feel, everybody's pain right now. we understand everybody is saying come on and get on with it. >> we have slept less than they have. >> we are sitting here and
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talking when we got the news for the third day in a row, more than 100,000 people in this country tested positive for covid. that is part of why we are waiting so long. pennsylvania decided for the first time to allow more freely people to send in a ballot by mail before covid but because of covid people are utilizing that and that is part of what is taking so long. never mind that people are counting votes in the midst of a pandemic. all of those things are really important factors that are levering us where we are right now. >> excellent reminder an reminder of the stakes who becomes president is literally a matter of loife and death. we're looking for more vote results from pennsylvania and arizona as the world waits to see who will be the next president of the united states. our special coverage continues right after this quick break. we'll be right back. at morgan stanley, a global collective of thought leaders offers investors a broader view.
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far by 38,455 votes. a close contest. biden is ahead in all four of those contests. let's walk over to pamela brown at the cnn voting desk. what are you learning about pennsylvania and the outstanding vote there? >> there are 102,000 outstanding mail in ballots to be counted. this doesn't include provisionals. here is what's noteworthy about this number. majority of these outstanding ballots are coming from blue counties right now in pennsylvania. let's look a bit deeper into that. philadelphia. there are approximately 38,000 ballots left. we do want note that pennsylvania released about 2300 ba ballots tonight. we are awaiting more as workers there in philadelphia work throughout the night in that big convention center trying to get us the results. you look at another blue county here in pennsylvania. there are 47,000 ballots left. that is including provisionals.
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allegheny is the home to pittsburgh. hay had to stop counting because of a lawsuit. now tonight we learn 5300 ballots released, those results came out tonight. bucks county, 7,000 mail in and absentee ballots. 2,000 damaged ballots need review there. the only red one here is right next to scranton. more than 4,000 ballots remaining there. it's worth noting as we're awaiting the results as the election system is so decentralized, so is finding out the results from all of these places. they had their own ways of releasing the results and whether the provisional ballots are included. right now at this hour 102,000, roughly 102,000 left in pennsylvania and does not include provisionals.
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>> thanks very much. 102 ba 102,000 ballots outstanding. biden is ahead by nearly 20,000 votes. 19,584. that lead has built almost every hour. >> it has built almost every hour and important if you listen to pam. not just the votes out but where they are. you start down in philadelphia. we're waiting here. montgomery county, you're waiting for votes. these are places where bucks county we got some earlier, chester county here. delaware county here. these are where joe biden v running it up. that tells you, about 10% of the votes are down here in suburban philadelphia. that tells you if you look at the math those are places where joe biden has been doing. you're at 19,000. the goal is get more of those. as they have come into the count joe biden has built that lead. this morning the lead was 5500.
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5,587 it's triple that now. you're going up. you want that lead to grow up. you want to see a bit more evidence that the trajectory which is in biden's favor continues. that's been overwhelming. the overwhelming trajectory has been in biden's favor. sometimes it's a couple hundred at a time. maybe 5 or 6,000 at time. the trend line is in the president's direction. the president can't afford to lose pennsylvania. arizona is important but it's smul smaller prize than pennsylvania. if the president can hold onto pennsylvania which there's no evidence but if you're in trump campaign, you're hoping for a comeback. trump loses pennsylvania, we're
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done. we just got some votes here. again we're not getting a ton of votes but to show you we're counting them all. if you're a trump supporter, they tend to go for biden, we're not just counting votes that go for biden. we're counting them all. you see 2243. 623. that's 75% of those votes. 75% of that vote total goes for the president. 75% here. he's getting 64% in the county. that's good news for the president. it's a relatively modest number of votes. it only cut sboos the lead a little bit. you count them all. they get added to the count. again, 36,000 and change. it's a lot of votes but it was 47,000 this morning. if you're in trump campaign,
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again, trump campaign attitude is keep counting them. we're getting closer here. i want to point it out the trump campaign argument is stop counting them here and stop counting them there. they would like to rewind the clock to when thaer ahead. it doesn't work that way. >> you call it? >> intellectual inconsistency. i was raised to be polite. >> you can the a diplomatic ambassador with that. >> i like it right here just fine. >> let's look at nevada. >> these western state, arizona and nevada close. battleground states. that's why they're on the board. we're still here four nights later. that arizona, i just showed you was a state that donald trump narrowly carried four years ago. hillary clinton made a run for it. president trump made a run for this state four years ago. hillary clinton won it by just a couple of points. these western states, people think of nevada now as blue.
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it has been blue in recent elections. the reliable part is in question. let's look at this right here. 50 to 48 if you round joe biden up. 22,000 votes. we begin the day with joe biden up 11,000 votes. 11438. he's almost doubled that lead. the directional arrow is pointing in the right way for biden. you would like the see it. 49-48. you'd like the see it jump more than that. what are you waiting for here? it's clark county. it's clark county and then you move out. i say that not to insult the rest of state but 72, 73% high turn out could be 75% of your vote will come right here out of las vegas and the suburbs. the elect official said they're doing their job. in clark county, 54 to 45 if you roupds out there. you bring it back here and see what's happening. for the democrats it's critical. this somewhere the bulk of the votes are. you need to run it up here because you see this red.
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nowhere near the population. most of the population is in vegas. this is sourt th of carson city. the president added some votes here a short time ago. you see the percentages. even here. you see joe biden getting 123,000. relatively competitivcompetitiv. the president is putting up a good fight. in the moment he is trailing. it's a leaning blue state. we had it leaning blue for some time. the president is putting up a good fight. putting up good night in nevada and arizona. a good fight doesn't matter.
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biden leads. biden leads. biden leads. that's the dynamic the president must turn around. the map has a lot more blue than the president can stand. >> two states at the center of the race tonight. pennsylvania and arizona. we're standing by for new numbers soon from both of them as election night in america continues. ♪ ♪ i see you looking (uh) ♪ i see you looking (na, na, na) ♪ ♪ i see you looking (uh) ♪ i see you looking ♪ watch what i do (camera clicks) ♪ watch what i do ♪ i see you looking ♪ watch what i do! (camera clicks) ♪ watch what i do ♪ i see you looking ♪ watch what i ... do! you're having one more bite! no! one more bite! ♪
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welcome back. election niepght in america. he meant to speak for primetime. still no word yet on whether that will take place particularly if pennsylvania has not been called. david, what do you think the discussion is. >> everybody is at the mercy of the count and the calls. my sense is he scheduled that set of remarks with the expectation we would have enough in that networks and news organizations could make a call
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on the race. i'm not sure you want to gear that thing up twice. if it happens tomorrow, you'll want to do that tomorrow. they may defer the remarks until they have something to talk about. otherwise it will be the same remarks he has been giving everything night. >> you can say be patient. be patient and every one has been patient. i think they are taking a look at what networks will do. >> do you think it would be wise to stay visible and speak without having something? >> i don't know that it's necessary. you haven't heard from the president of the united states today other than through his tweets which sound bellicoast. >> his recent tweet is i had a big lead in these states only to see the leads disappear as the days went by.
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perhaps these leads will return as our legal proceedings move forward. >> miraculously is the word they keep uses about how suddenly these votes turn up when we know and said it over and over again this is how the count was going to go. the trump surrogates are an embarrassment. they are an embarrassment to the good people who supported trump over the last four years. says they are not poised, well thought out our credible. i think there's a lot of trump supporters are saying you're not doing yourself any good here. maybe he'll start thinking that. >> i give you a -- i'm from pennsylvania. i look at pennsylvania and sort of because people are charging that pennsylvania is a center where fraud happened and that this vote that he was way, way ahead and it's gone away and i
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know we have explained mail in ballots versus the rest. if you look at the count. i look at the counties in the state. the bigger counties. the ones that have suburban counties or ones that have cities in them and there's only of the big counties in state, there's only two in which the president did better. every other county whether it's just to give you towns like allentown and burks and suburban harrisburg, york. not york, lancaster. erie. he did worse this time than he did last time. there's only two big counties he did better. one is york county. there was a big congressional race and that may have driven turn out and the other county, philadelphia. he did better in philadelphia. he did four and a half pioints better.
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he lost by 67% to hillary clinton. he lost by 62.5. the bottom line is, here is the other thing that's really important. if you look outside of pennsylvania and depending on -- we have been told how many ballots are o coming in. they may change. the percentage turn out in pennsylvania looks to be as high as 11%. the increase in the city of philadelphia was 3%. the rest of the state was 11 or 12%. here is my point. if you're going to steal an election, they did a pretty bad job in philadelphia because he got -- they didn't turn out as nuch as rest of state and trump did better. it's hard -- i'm not saying there isn't anything there. there may be something. it may be worse. the point is looking at the face and saying what doesn't look
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right here and you look and five-day forecast and s philadelphia and say it votes down and trump did better. >> ei think you lawyers call tht an unfriendly fact. >> i'm not saying we shouldn't pursue the causes but on the face it's a tough case to make just looking at the facts. >> i think that's -- there's a blizzard of -- i wouldn't call it disinformation at this point. this video, this thing, whatever. people are beginning to believe that philadelphia is this place where people -- >> i get it. >> there's something called facts. trump did better in philadelphia this time than he did last time. fire our election stealing committee because -- i said a million times. it takes away from the great work of people who do great work and put the work in to try to
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make the election happen. i think, for me, a lot of people are just -- they're hanging on the edge of their seat and getting tired waiting for democracy to work. i think we should hold on. i would much rather for us to be he here. biden will fot say be peesnot s. i think we should say be patient. the people who got this victory in a stone's throw can rest knowing the effort was not in vain. >> i think your numbers are interesting and important. i think that -- >> not my numbers. >> the numbers. i think if you look around the country and look at the results for republicans around the country, not just pennsylvania, you can make the case that quite easily the republicans had a great election. we don't know if they will lose
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the senate. they could but it wasn't any kind of a wave election. the democrats do as well as they wanted to do in the house and if the was a big steal here, they did really bad job of it. >> also the whole notion of a huge referendum on the president. yes, biden is way ahead in popular vote but the idea of a referendum election that would send a message and forever trumpism. >> didn't happen. >> it's not that. >> i would make the argument that trump succeeded in making the argument that we are not going to be a socialist country. i think after this election, we're not going to be socialist country certainly for the next couple of years. i think we're set up in 2022 as republicans to win a bunch of governorships, to potentially take back the house because we
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held our state legislate chauret we ahead in spite of e aric he eric holder. republicans held them. we're in a position to be able to draw the congressional maps that create a better opportunity of us to win congressional districts. >> in other words, jergerrymand. in california they set up a commission to stop the gerrymandering to get it in fair way. >> let me finish my point. the point is that donald trump accomplished what he said. he said i want to stop socialism. this is my purpose. he's done it. he accomplished it. >> joe biden stopped it in the democratic party and you kept lying about it. part of the problem is as we try the move forward and get the country together, the good thing is we will have divided
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the ballots in pennsylvania continues with this new order just arriving from justice just aledo. he's saying look you can count them but just make sure it is part of the total. it is important to know that this is the guidance of the secretary of state have put out before the election that they should be put aside separated and counted separately. what's interesting about this order is it comes in the wake of the final today, we are not sure that every county is applying. this may not be legally binding. we want the supreme court to step in and make sure this counti county is separated. aledo seems you recolleurked bye did not get guidance. the secretary of state initially said we are going to separate these ballots and did not say
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anything about counting and that influences the decision. and now she changed the guidance and now we are finding out justice aledo is ordering pennsylvanians to put the ballots on the side. jake. >> all right, pamela brown. thank you so much. let's bring in ben ginsburg, our cnn's contributor. this is the one legal action that the trump's team republicans have taken we would not consider it is frivolous, this is based on anational dispute. other officials have said there should be a three-day grace period so ballots arrive after election day through today be included as long as they are not postmarked after election day.
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now there is this dispute of whether or not it should be taken to the u.s. supreme court. do you think this become relevant that the u.s. supreme court will hear arguments about it. >> what justice aledo does is sort of preserve the status quo of the way things are now. the ballots are still being counted so the republicans party lost its attempt to hulk counting. as pamela says this is not a map that'll impact the election. the ballots will be counted but not included in the counts so the status quo and all the options will be on the table with this order. >> if it comes out that these ballots that were sent before election day or on election day,
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postmarked on election day, if they become relevance of who wins pennsylvania then there may be more action. if they make up the margin of victory for one candidate or the other. if not then probably not. >> i think that's the way it will come out. i mean importantly there is really no objection to what justice aledo did with his order because it does preserve the current state. he's not gotten or referred to the court about whether to count these ballots or exclude them nor to deal with the issue whether the state supreme court could weigh in for the rules of the election or if that's something left for the legislation. ben ginsberg, we appreciate it. our coverage of this continues right now.
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we keep on getting new results from battleground states that could be closer in the presidential race, is it decision around the corner? i am wolf blitzer. joe biden is constantly patience as all of us wait to see if he's able to declare victory over president trump. biden's lead in pennsylvania grew much again as the vote counts continue. we could get more results from the keystone state at any time. we are standing biy out of arizona tonight where biden is ahead and could add to his electoral count. it is all about the map. biden looking for the winning equation to bump up from 253 electoral votes to the necessary 270. trump has 213. while some of the outstanding
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races are close, the numbers are working against him. here is another key race alert. >> in pennsylvania right now the all important state, 20 electoral votes, biden maintains 49.5%, that lead has grown almost every hour. 49.5 for biden and 49.2 for trump. 96% of the estimated votes have come in. it has gone down a little bit in arizona, 36,835 ahead. within the hour we are expecting a whole batch of new numbers in arizona. we are watching it very closely. 11 electoral votes in arizona. 94% of the estimated vote is in. let's go to david chalain, i keep on getting a lot of texts and e-mails my friends from all
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over the place why has not cn nyet projected a winner. >> you and me both. we are 72 hours after the polls closed in pennsylvania. and you look at the board and you see that joe biden has a lead now with 19,491 votes and you spent the last three days watching donald trump's lead shrink each hour until joe biden actually over took the lead today as more and more mail votes came in and we keep explaining and our expectation is that means it is going to continue to grow for joe biden from everything we see and every batch that we come in we see him have that lead. you are thinking why can't you call this yet? and the answer is simple. we have a room full of statistics, data scientists who dig into the number every time new votes come in and do their calculations to get to an
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extraordinary high level of certainty that if we make a projection it is because we are so completely certain that the number two candidate in the race, donald trump, in pennsylvania can't the number one candidate in the race when every single one vote is reported. is there a magic number? no. we need to know a little bit more about the outstanding votes. there is about 100,000 or so outstanding votes by mail ballots to be counted. we need to learn a little bit more about them. we need to see a little bit more about how those votes from specific areas continue to split so that we can actually get to that extraordinary high level of confidence that we want to be accurate and that's the driving force for any projection and
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that's why pennsylvania and with this lead that you see right now for joe biden remains uncalled. >> it is an important point, david. jo jon king, you and i cover a lot of these. when you make a projection you got to be certain that it is not going to change. >> you have to do it in every e event especially credibility is everything. you have the president of the united states challenging what happens. and anyway you should have basic standards and rules are the rules. in this case, calling that state would make joe biden president-elect of the united states. you take extra, extra care. the basic rules should always apply. that's why you have it. let's start in nevada, joe biden at 22,657 ahead. you see how competitive nevada is. joe biden is leading. democrats is confident they'll
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keep it. 22,657. that was 11,438. the build has been biden. that could stretch on a little longer. you can see arizona right now, this is the anomaly in nevada. the biden lead has grown and pennsylvan pennsylvania, the biden lead has grown. you can see 36,835. the biden campaign is confident they'll hold this. they believe more votes are coming in for maricopa. you see this blue, it is close. president trump narrowly carried maricopa four years ago.
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the senate race in arizona went for the democrat. marklely defeati mark kelly defeating the incumbent. in the end we'll get a few votes they'll be able to hold onto arizona. now we move to the east. nevada and arizona will get joe biden to the finish line if we have a longer count and still in pennsylvania. let's go to georgia first. smaller counties coming in. biden's lead is 1,097 today. it is a little bit above where it is now. the end results is 4,000 vote lead for joe biden. it is emarkable, right? 4,000 votes, incredibly competitive state, this one we'll go onto a recount. this would be a major flip in this holds for joe biden. nobody has built that since the
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1990. that would be a major deal. the president of the united states must win georgia, pennsylvania to get to 270 electoral vote and victory. pennsylvania, the largest prize, 20 electoral votes. you see how close it is. 49.5 and 49.2. at 9:00 a.m. this morning, the vice president's lead was 5500. throughout the day, joe biden's lead has increased even the last couple of hours. we are still waiting for some final votes. last time i heard 100,000 of them are still out. alleghany county. you can see philadelphia is very
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close. up to 95%. when we get votes for philadelphia, we see what's happening. he's getting 81% of the votes overall. we are still waiting for some votes in the suburbs here. montgomery has more votes to count. joe biden winning more. when the mail-in ballots come in, it is higher than that. it is disproportionately democrats. if you were not familiar with this geography, why the time we are done today and tomorrow and as we analyze the election after we are done, you are supposed to stay farther. this is where it matters most. you see a lot of red out there, those are smaller and more rural counties. president trump runs it up out there. joe biden has done what the democrats needed to do, mounting an impressive total here winning back alleghany county.
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the trajectory is clear. many people believe it is inevitable. >> any contest like this when it is so close, it gets down to taking a look at provisional ballots coming in around the world. the americans living abroad. you got to look at all of that and it gets a little complicated at the end. you got to count every vote. >> you want to look at the history. president trump did carry the state four years ago. there is no question that the president has substantial support. this is a fascinating case study. he's an incumbent. you are running against an incumbent. democr this would be a key battleground, a traditional democratic state going back to the '90s. 2 million for hillary clinton. president trump got more votes
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in pennsylvania than last time. 3.3 million but joe biden just has more. the democrats turned out their votes. the president and the two completely contrasting style. joe biden kept social distancing and urged voters to vote by mail. he urged democrats to vote by mail and stay safe. donald trump have rallies across the state, as i study this all the time, this is the super counties, he had a rally here, it got up his supporters that turned out for him. that's great for him. i know a lot of democrats watching don't like the president. the president, the final day of his campaign, he's effective in turning out the people. the president received meteor shows more votes than four years ago. democrats impressive job, turned out their votes. that's why biden's lead is
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growing. as we head into friday night after tuesday's election and just button up the point, wolf. 74.2 million votes. 4.12 million lead over donald trump. that's how we pick a president, we do it by state. that's impressive for joe biden. more votes than any presidential candidate. donald trump is the second number. >> those numbers are going to go up. >> they are going to go up. we are still counting votes everywhere. >> if you are watching at home and frustrated, why have they called pennsylvania or why are these states taking so long? i get it, it is friday night, the election was tuesday. oklahoma up top 96%. kansas, up to 99%.
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nebraska, and check the blue one here. 96%. in wisconsin 99%. a lot of these states are in the 90s as you come into them. you do see even states we call long ago and how lopsided. you can call the states because it is lopsided. the trajectory is clear and the state has a reliably democratic pedigree. this is a complicated election everywhere. because of the pandemic, it was an unprecedented election. >> north carolina, we are still waiting for the final results there, right? >> you would not get a dispute in the biden campaign when i am about to say what i am about to
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say is full expectation that the president will hold the lead. they're counting the votes. if you make me go over to the other map, we have not called it yet because there is no need to in a sense that it is clear and right now the president is leading. they're still counting votes. all of our calculations and we assume here everyon though it i great here. they don't dispute. it is a competitive state. it is a republican-leading state presidential politics. we expect the president to carry that. the president is leading up here, this is maine's second congressional district. the second congressional district gone for biden. the electoral college votes by congressional district. alaska is counting slowly. the expectation, the president
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is holding onto that. if you are the president, you are getting bleak news. that would add to the president's total, getting it up to 232. you are losing here and trailing here and trailing here. we are not to the finish line. this is a decisive moment. joe biden wins just that one. he's leading there. that one is going to a recount. that'll be 289. the expectation of the biden campaign of how it is going to turn out. the trump campaign has navorrro the lead a little bit. i will tell you this, privately the trump campaign publicly. we'll come back in nevada.
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that one is going to go away. arizona is still interested in the count. 306, 332. >> it sounds familiar. >> because they are familiar. it is where we ended four years ago in reverse order. >> yeah. >> let's go back to jake. >> one of the reasons why we are taking our time with this count and before we project, obviously we want to be safe and one of the other reasons why we are fairly sure this is going in one direction is not because joe biden now leads in all four of his battlegrounds that we are paying attention to: pennsylvania, georgia and nevada, arizona. because the legal issues being raised by the trump campaign with one exception seems rather frivolous if not out right
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proposte proposterious. you are hearing more of president trump's views of his legal team. kaitlan. >> reporter: yes. the president says the legal proceedings are underway and they're moving forward. the question the president raised tonight is the team he assembled to fight for him in court which seems to be rudy giuliani, matt morgan, a trump's campaign attorney and a few others. we are being told by sources that the president raised questions of the effectiveness of that team and asking people if they will be able to properly fight for him and basically suggesting they are not up to the task. he told them to find better
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attorneys to put on his team because he wants a team of what he describes to one person as ki "killers". why didn't the president raise these concerns sooner or why didn't aides really think of the strategy earlier? the president suggested that there is going to be legal challenges if the outcome is not in his favor. it does not appear -- the course has not been called yet. it is moving into that phase and the president is raising questions of the team that's going to be representing and going to be fighting for him and to get a second term. we are told it is not omnivonly president raising those questions but his top staffers of whether or not they'll have a heavy enough legal team to help them weigh through the litigation they're trying to pursue. they keep on comparing it to the recount. a lot of those attorneys are white house councils and supreme
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court justices and clerks, they don't feel that's what they got as their legals standing up at this point. >> kaitlan, i can understand why the president is finding his legal team, there really is not any sort of case to make sheehe when it comes to the integrity of the election. everything we seen by all accounts this election was conducted well and without fraud and in fact the only instances i have seen of fraud have to do with people who supported president trump. is that not a factor in his thinking that there may not be anything for them to issue a complaint about? >> i don't think that's a factor of what the president is thinking. i heard that from his allies. there is others who said if they felt they have a powerful legal team, they could raise enough
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hell and have some credibility behind it. and rudy giuliani and the saga he's had representing the president during his four years in the white house. it is more of the optics how they are viewing it. they think their allegations of voter fraud may be credible if they have a better team making that and going on talking about this which involves the corey lewandowski and rudy giuliani and pam bondi holding these press conferences. even the president himself appears to be unhappy with the team. >> thank you, kaitlan collins. let me bring in our ben ginsberg. you heard kaitlan's reporting.
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what's your response? >> i think it is interesting the president comes to this conclusion. he assembled that team and he was the corner stone of the strategy. remember it was his rhetoric about elections being fraudulent and rigged that really the legal team and going out and filed suits around the country all of which or none of which were helping voters cast their ballots, all were basically exclusionary. this is kind of a self-fulfilling prophet. >> one of the things they were doing and this is obviously may be a factor in why it looks like the president is not going to be -- is president trump was arguing that efforts to make it easy to vote, vote by mail in several states should be shot down and that individuals should not vote by mail. his supporters should not take
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advantage of it, that always seems to be a problematic strategy. a, there was nothing legally wrong with it and b, making it easier for your own supporters to vote during the pandemic seems to be a smarter way to get more votes, right? >> yeah, i totally agree with that. i mean one other point about the president's comments is friday after the election in 2000s, when we are in florida, we have put out the call to republican legal establishment and under secretary james baker's guidance assembled the greatest group of lawyers i have ever practiced with and the tsupreme court wer made up of the people down there. that tells you the caliber of those lawyers. david bossy who's not a lawyer in charge of that effort so to get the quality team that was
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there in florida to represent president trump bush is going to be really tough hall right now. >> ben ginsberg, thank you very much. >> i was down there in tallahassee when ginsberg was there led by james baker and white house chief of staff and pulling all these lawyers across the country eager to help george w. bush. there has not been a rush to represent this president from the legal community throughout this presidency but especially right now. >> ben ginsberg is too humble to say this so i will say it. if there were real legal avenues for the president, people like ben ginsberg would be on the team.
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in terms of the brain power and the experience, that would be happening. it would not be people who are more politicians like rudy giuliani and frankly pam bondi or the president -- people who tell the president what he wants to hear as oppose to what he should hear. jay sekulow who's dealing with the supreme court or if that's a possibility for them in pennsylvania but for the most part, the reason why the president does not have the kind of team that kaitlan says he wants is because people who are looking at this who have bright and legal minds and experience don't see have many avenues. >> the president wants to be his own spokesperson and his own lawyer. we are in this position where the president is frustrated with his legal team because he does not think they have a great case
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because he determined early on that he was going to have a problem with mail-in ballots. and even though historically there is not a huge partisan of how mail-in ballots are used in the states until he created one. now, because of that, they created this entire sort of patch work, quilts of different standards for which mail-in ballots they like. he told supporters they can use mail-in ballots in florida but not in pennsylvania. he did not like it in nevada but he liked it in arizona. it is impossible if you are a lawyer to defend that kind of random and illogical strategy. the strategy is not set by lawyers but the president. that's why we are where we are today, the trump campaign spent more than $20 million establishing this strategy and today, three days after election
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day, president trump, is fighting that entire strategy lacking. frankly it is not because of the lawyers are you know putting aside people who are at the top, the big names -- the rudy giuliani and the pam bondi. there are a lot of lawyers who are urn beneath them who are republicans and who are working these cases. maybe they have not bad lawyers but they have dealt with really bad cases. >> two big differences, there was a legitimate issue here. george w. bush won by 537 votes. there was an automatic recount. it was the narrowest victory in the presidential race in a key state. it was not four states. it was one state. second of all, there were a whole bunch of things going on with the ballots in terms of the
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butterfly ballots and the punch card ballots. there were issues to discuss and the last one i will make about this and we can discuss it after the break. the last one is george w. bush was ahead and that's where you want to be if there is a recount or any sort of legal issues. george w. bush won. al gore did everything he could but he could not undo that victory. there is really no comparison. >> there really is not. >> with what's going on from this scene we are seeing. people are still in line as the key deadline passes nevada. we are waiting results for arizona and pennsylvania states that could decide this long, thrilling and weary election. stay with us.
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have to show their id to make sure their votes will count otherwise it will not count. this was a line that was very long. part of the reason why it is shorten because it is past 5:00. 5:00 was the deadline to get the vote here. you were the last person in line. what did they tell you? there is no one behind you, if anyone shows up now, it will not count. >> for me, it is important that my voice is heard. first they called me and said i need to be here by 5:00. i am driving to get here on time to make sure my vote counts. >> reporter: they did not tell you until 4:30. >> they called me and sent me a text and asked for a copy of my id. well, it is not going to happen to send my id someone i am not certain who it is.
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i made sure i came down here because i had to be here by 5:00 p.m. i was flying literally to get here. it is important at this very last minute, it is important that my voice and my vote is counted and heard. >> reporter: tell me your name. >> my name is mary. >> reporter: when you got that call, what was your initial thought? have you been living here for a long time? >> at least 35 years. >> i was watching the polls constantly live to see where it lies. it is important now because my stand of who i am voting for that my vote will go through. this is like the last minute and i definitely want my vote to be counted. definitely. >> reporter: thank you very much and your dedication. this is apart of the american process, you are here taken part. you say id by the people for th
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people. >> reporter: thank you very much. this gentleman here agreed to speak to us. i am sarah. what's your name? >> my name is john burke. >> reporter: you were here in line. how did you find out that you need to show up and show your id? >> well, i have a friend of mine and i noticed that he made a statement that if your vote had not been counted to get down here today by 5:00 p.m. it was about 3:00 when i saw that. ifi i filled out my ballot and it keeps showing up that it has been received but has not been counted. you know so i thought i come down here and even we got lines and all that, i want my vote to be counted. one thing i will tell you, while i am standing here in line and the irony of making new friends,
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the biggest thing of how cool this is, ironically none of us asked each other who we are voting for or anything like that. we are all down here representing and got my crew over here, we are all down here wanting to make our vote counts. >> reporter: it is a beautiful thing. you are telling me that you made some friends and you don't care who they are voting for but you do care that the votes are counted, period. >> that's correct. you are sitting here looking at an old man with a cowboy hat and we got some young folks here and we are all laughing and joking and no one has asked who are you voting for. part of us want to know and the other part we don't want to know. >> reporter: you want to tell me? >> no. i think i will leave that a mystery for those of you out there that knows me know who i am voting for. >> reporter: everybody got along. you came down because you have
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not seen that your vote has been counted yet? so you came here to make sure that they have everything they need to make sure your vote is counted. >> you can go online on nevada website. it does verify they received it but it did not identify that's counted. i did not do that. >> reporter: wonderful, thank you very much for your time and thank you for doing your civic duty. >> i wish i had sandwiches and water. >> reporter: thank you very much. there you have it. this is the last portion of the line. tl line is moving. we just talked to the registrar voters, if people showed up here and got in line before 5:00 p.m., their votes they can show those two ids and they can make sure their votes will be counted. >> so nice, i love these patriotic americans. thank you so much sarah sidner
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for that. >> there are still some time over there. so you think that's a close lead, right? i will bet you a dollar, $5 the video will end up online, somebody will tweet they're trying to steal the election, people are still voting. that's not what's happening there. they allow people to come down. today was the deadline. we talked about it the other day, voting by absentee. you heard the gentleman and the lady said they checked and their votes was not counted yet so they made sure.
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so if you have been watching the results and live in nevada, you know it is relatively close in clark county when you pull it upstate wide. that's a competitive battlefield. the biden campaign thinks they're going to pull it out. it is still within play there. good for those people no matter who they are voting for. let them count their votes. >> delaware, what are you hearing whether or not we'll hear from the democratic nominee? >> reporter: it turns out joe biden is expected and likely to speak tonight regardless of whether this race has been called. sources have told us that if the race is not called by the time he speaks that he'll simply underscore and talk about the
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current state of the race including his growing lead. we are still waiting to hear how that would play out. aides have been hopeful that this race would be called for joe biden today. they are still waiting for that to happen. we have seen growing leads for joe biden in states like georgia and pennsylvania. a state that would not be a strategic win as it will put joe biden over the top 270 electoral votes but also a personal one. one where joe biden spent quite a bit of time during the course of the campaign including the closing days and it is a state where he was born and spent some time as a child. we are expecting that joe biden will be speaking later tonight regardless of where this race currently stands as his lead is growing in some of these states. wolf.
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>> thank you very much. >> we anticipate it is possible that we'll hear from joe biden tonight even if there is no projection or if he's not projected of the winner of this county. >> it is an understanding within a day or two believes he'll be the president of the united states and he knows his supporters on social media and talk to your friends and people out there are anxious. joe biden wants to reassure his supporters as well. it reflects the dicey moment because a lot of people out there are saying call the election and we get the frustration. all of the evidence is on the table including the biden lead here in pennsylvania. all just shy of 20,000 votes.
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they can get above 300 if they win. so you get that out there to the people that are frustrated and i was looking at social media, democrats say call the race, call the race. pick your sporting event. your team is up. you know stop the game, the other team gets two more ballots. that's where we are right now, we are trying to get more votes. if you are joe biden, you want to reassure your supporters that everything is fine and don't worry. a lot of democrats say the longer this drags on, the longer they think the president will find some way. democrats are getting nervous that the president is going to find some way. so joe biden wants to step forward and say i am confident i will be at the finish line very
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everything -- votes are being counted. i think he's going to remind people that he's ahead. and to say to be patient. i don't think he'll go after the president in any way. but, i do think he's going to say hey i am winning and i expect to win and be your next president and stay tuned for the final votes. >> similar to what he's already sounding. >> yes. he came out yesterday said similar kind of thing. >> yes, i don't know how you refresh the same thing. there is in some ways a message that says you know that r reenforces patience because patience is more difficult because it is a longer time. i can see offer a message of reassurance. >> do you think he'll -- he did
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speak of not a democratic president. >> yeah. honestly that's the appropriate message and do you think we'll hear from kamala harris? >> knowing him and he may try to acknowledge the people doing the work. there are people out there doing this work. one reason why i went back to frustration, it is not fun doing this. when you're a poll watcher, it is tedious. as hard it is for us, it is hard er for them. i would be surprise if he did not acknowledge that. i want to acknowledge you know -- he's going to be speaking to people, many of whom
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are his supporters and he'll talk to people who are not. a lot of african-americans when you can't say it enough enough -- broader across the finish line. stacey abrams is a good name but also in georgia, tamika atkins and debra scott and many, many others worked their butts off. it is great for him to get up there and acknowledge them. more than any other person it was him throwing his heart to the american people. you have been in similar situation? >> not like that. >> i think he may do that at some point. i don't think it is the time to congratulate people or thank
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people because it is not over yet. >> it would be premature. >> he would make it sound p presumptous. i am with david, i don't see a reason to do this. >> the president has said earlier that it is unnecessary. >> i don't think that joe is going to go out there saying anything that's irritating. that's not what he's trying to communicate here. i guess he'll be out there in front of a bunch of cars, maybe the real live version of the movie "cars" and have people communicate with the folks. i don't know. it does not make any sense. >> look at what's going on tonight. you have inside the white house, people who are trying to
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convince the president look, you are going to lose. you got to think about how you do this and how you go about it. >> are there people trying to convince him? >> i think there are friends of his let me say that who are saying you got to think about this and wrap your head and stair in the right direction if you will. there are people who are urging him him to fight like rudy giuliani, then the president is trying to figure out what to do, what his options are and sort of process all this. so watching joe biden, biden is not going to poke the bear right now, he's just not going to poke the bear. but he might in a way be talking to trump. >> that would be interesting. >> and trump watching him, as biden says, look, we're going to get there, be patient, i don't know how that affects donald trump one way or the other, maybe it doesn't. >> the bright line would be if he tried to claim too much tonight. and i don't think he'll do that. >> there would be more chance
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for error. >> key race alert, let's go to wolf. >> the biden lead in pennsylvania grows a bit. take a look at this, biden's lead over trump in pennsylvania is 21,705. he has 49.5% to 49.2%, it was just under 20,000, now it's approaching 22,000. 21,705-vote lead over trump in pennsylvania right now. john king, that lead has been growing almost every hour during the course of the day. we started pretty early this morning. where is the lead growing now? >> we have delaware county. we have some new votes here, wolf. oops, sorry. let me bring up the board here. we'll show you the votes. the big headline is, it is growing in joe biden's direction. again, this is delaware county, some new votes in here for the former vice president. 1,293 for t
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1,293. for the president of the united states, 406. 47% for joe biden. adding 800 plus for joe biden's lead. >> that's not 47%. >> it's significantly higher than that, this is a transcription error. the key is 1,293 votes for the former vice president mr. n there. oops, i drove it up too far here. chester county, let me pull this back down for us here. in chester county, pennsylvania, we have 1,600, this is depressive, 1,657. what are you doing for joe biden here? you're trying to not only add to your math but overperform the totals you're seeing there, and
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we have 80% right here, to 398 for the president of the united states. so the president is behind. and we're going through these collar counties, suburbs and philadelphia, and we're seeing more and more of this. look at that, 80% of the vote. joe biden is getting 57% of the vote. this has been a consistent pattern as they count the mail-in votes, joe biden not only winning by a lopsided margin, even more so than he's winning in this county. two counties, chester and delaware in southeast pennsylvania. this doesn't want to go off. if it doesn't want to go that way, we'll do it this way. we go to erie county up here. we have more votes in erie county. this is a county where throughout most of the day yesterday, the president was leading. you see in the math right now, 49-49, essentially, 50 if you round the former vice president
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up. in erie county, we have 206 votes. this is more competitive. but still joe biden adding to the lead, 206 to 138 here. you see again here, this is 59% for the former vice president. so 59% in the new county. you might say, there's a modest number of votes. the goal here is to take the 100,000 or so ballots out, take them off the board, get them counted, add them to this board. again, 59%, almost 10 points higher than how joe biden is running in the total county. and the difference is, the total county includes ballot cast on election day, the president did very well with those and actually was leading in erie county. and now you see him adding again. you add in the new votes, biden gains in chester, biden gains in delaware county, biden gains in erie county, you add them up, the total lead goes to 21,705 votes. this has been a methodical march as they've added votes to biden throughout the day. biden campaign is comfortable, they believe the trajectory is
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in their direction. there are more mail-in ballots to be counted and they're trying to get information on so-called provisional ballots, i believe there's 100,000 of those. provisional ballots, either you requested a mail-in ballot and didn't get it, or you got a mail-in ballot but you showed up and want to show up at a polling place and say you want to vote in person, they check it in the books to make sure you haven't voted twice and then they count it. >> 100,000 votes still need to be counted in the state of pennsylvania. moments from now we'll get more results from arizona, a state that could help joe biden across the finish line. our special coverage continues next. what's the name again?
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at any moment now we're expected to learn how tens of thousands of arizona voters cast their ballots in this presidential election that's keeping all of us on the edge of our seats. i'm wolf blitzer. joe biden is looking for the final batch of electoral votes he needs to become president-elect of the united states and deny president trump a second term. we're told biden is likely to speak tonight even if the race is still in flux. right now biden has multiple paths to the presidency through
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several undecided states where he's leading. and that includes arizona where new vote totals are about to drop in the state's largest county. whatever happens tonight, we're nearing the home stretch of this election. biden needs only 17 more electoral votes to get to the winning number of 270. trump is stalled at 213 and hard-pressed, very hard-pressed, to find a way forward. let's get a key race alert right now. arizona, where it could be very dramatic moments from now, we're expecting lots of votes to come in. joe biden maintains his lead right now. he's got a lead of 36,816 votes over donald trump, 49.8% to 48%. 94% of the estimated vote is in. arizona has 11 electoral votes. bill weir is joining us from phoenix. bill, we're about to get a lot of numbers in phoenix. looks like you're beginning to
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count. i know you're great in math. update our viewers. >> reporter: no, i proved that i'm not last night, wolf. so i got the calculator this time. joe biden picks up 31,000 votes out of maricopa county with this new dump. let's see here. donald trump, 950,503 minus 912,115 equals 38,000. so it's not the kind of blowout that the president has been hoping for as he's been chipping away at joe biden's lead. he needs dynamite and this is not it. there's probably one more big information dump tomorrow, 70,000 votes waiting in maricopa county. the differences on these guys, joe biden holds on to his lead in a way that it probably makes him sleep a little better tonight, wolf.
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>> it looks very good, at least the votes coming in right now. bill, stand by. john king, you wrote down the numbers. 38,000, approximately, for the president, 31,000 for biden. >> we saw the numbers change right there. that's 7,000 votes. the president needs a big body blow but he's chipping away. that's statewide. coming into maricopa county, it's 51% to 48%. maricopa county is 60% of the vote statewide. bill is asking the right question which is, we've seen repeatedly, again, maricopa county is blue but it's highly competitive, president trump carried it four years ago. it is increasingly leaning to the democrat suburbs because of the revolt against president trump in the suburbs. but he's getting a fair amount of votes here. is it enough? is this trajectory in arizona enough for the president to
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catch up? joe biden's lead there has been going down throughout the day. the question is is it going down enough. this is chipping away. and again, we're counting the votes everywhere, so the president is complaining about what's happening in other states, this is a state where as they count more votes, he has been slowly narrowing the gap, modestly. that's 7,000 votes in one dump of votes. the question is you're up to 97% of the vote in now, are there enough to chip it away further. >> biden still has a 30,000-vote lead right now. the question is how much votes are still outstanding and how many votes -- and when we get that count, we'll probably get it tomorrow at some point. he has a 30,000-vote lead. >> he does, but he had a 48,000-vote lead this morning. it doesn't mean that continues. and again, maricopa county is
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competitive. this is where the bulk of the votes is. the key question is when do they get to the finish line. >> we're told tomorrow we should get another 65,000 votes out of maricopa, that's right there, we'll see what this is, what the result is. it's going to be hard, i suspend, even with 65,000 votes coming in, unless trump does incredibly well, to narrow down that nearly 30,000-vote lead that biden has. >> to your point, so you're going to get it slight bigger than this. this would not be good enough. just looking at one installment, if you're a trump supporter, you say, great, takes a look alook made up 7,000 votes. but if you get 60,000-something tomorrow and the president does the same thing, he'll make it closer, but close doesn't count. >> our viewers are beginning to appreciate why cnn has not projected arizona over the past few days. others have. >> others have. and again, in the end that may prove right. i get their math in my head.
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however the president has made steady progress, again, 47,000 votes this morning. the presidency of the united states is at stake here. there's a couple of ways joe biden can get there. arizona and nevada would get him to the finish line right there. and so if you make these calls or these projections, you're making a statement that you're certain. and i've crunched these numbers myself off-camera. the likelihood is joe biden holds on. but likelihood doesn't matter, let's count votes, why not, right? and let's be fair to the president of the united states, he's making up ground here. this is 7,000. this is not a rate of growth that's enough. he needs to do better. if the president is going to catch up, the next batch of votes comes in. he needs a more lopsided advantage. but he's making up ground. >> he would need a huge advantage. 65,000 votes are still to be counted in arizona. it would be an incredible lopsided vote for the president in order for biden to lose that lead. >> right. statistically it is unlikely because they're roughly splitting the vote right now and
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the president would need quantitatively more than that to do it. however the trend lines have been in his way. it's sort of a simple posture, what's the harm to counting the votes. >> and you made this point several times, john, the president saees this and says, great, keep counting the votes because the biden lead is diminishing. and in other states where biden's lead isn't diminishing, he says stop the votes. remember, arizona, 11 electoral votes. and as you point out, arizona and nevada alone, just those two states would put biden over the top. let's go to pennsylvania right now, because pennsylvania alone would put biden over the top as well with 20 electoral votes. >> one reason we're being cautious about arizona, joe biden begins the day with a
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47,0 47,000-vote lead. if you go way back, the president's lead here was over a half million votes. why? because they counted the people who voted on election day first, that was the president's support. they're counting mail-in ballots last, and that's trickled in over the last 48 hours. joe biden has not only caught up with the president but passed him. we went through three counts in the last hour. throughout the day we've had a smattering of votes come in. there have been one or two occasions in these small rural counties where the president gets a few more votes than joe biden, but this has been a methodical built. 3.32 million to 3.30 million, that's not enormous, but it's a lead and a steadily growing lead throughout the day. and we're still waiting, i believe it's about 100,000 ballots, maybe shy of that now because some ballots have come
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in in the last couple of hours, still to be counted in pennsylvania. >> the fact that biden has been doing so well especially with the mail-in ballots, it would be very difficult for trump to overcome that lead that biden now has in pennsylvania. >> correct. two sets of ballots left. one we know are mail-in ballots, no doubt, we've been through this now, we're on our third day of counting the mail-in ballots in pennsylvania, joe biden consistently runs up big numbers there. there is a separate subset of 100,000 provisional ballots, for whatever reason, people requested a mail-in ballot and showed up at the polling place, the poll workers give you a ballot and you fill it out and they check it out to make sure you didn't vote twice. you have the mail-in ballots they're counting. we may get more of those tonight. and then these provisional ballots which they're counting, i believe there's two separate pools of about 100,000 votes. >> still a significant number of votes. our people are looking very,
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very closely at pennsylvania right now to see whether or not it looks like it's almost impossible for trump to overcome that lead that biden has right now, that would enable cnn to make a projection. >> right. and the biden camp certainly feels that way. again, both of the campaigns, we know what we know, they have their own people on the ground, they have their own data and analytics teams, and we know from the empirical evidence, the math we've done in the last few days, again, in the mail-in balloting, joe biden is winning by an overwhelming margin, the biden campaign is convinced that lead will grow until it's insurmountable. >> the lead that biden has over trump, show us what trump's lead over hillary clinton was four years ago, for some context and perspective. >> it's about half. 44,000. donald trump carried pennsylvania. again, look how close it was, 49, if you round up, to 48, if you round up. we call them battleground states for a reason, an incredibly
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competitive race in pennsylvania four years ago. it's remarkable, the high turnout in this race. 44,292 then. the biden lead right now is 21,705. and the expectation in the biden camp is that it will grow and it will probably grow to about the 40,000 or more that the president won by four years ago. >> we spoke with democratic senator bob casey a few times over the past few days, he thinks it could grow to over 100,000 votes. >> he's confident, not only about the mail-in ballots to be counted but the provisional ballots to be counted. he believes there won't be a big difference in terms of the percentages there. we're waiting for them to count the provisional ballots. you want to see at least a sample of those provisional ballots to be counted from different places around the state so you can say, okay, it matches up what we saw in the other sets of ballots because the provisional ballots are different, we haven't seen a sample yet. we know in the mail-in ballots because it's been overwhelming, joe biden is winning by
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convincing margins in the mail-in ballots, we know that because we've seen it. we know it's statistically valid to project those ballots. the provisional ballots haven't been touched yet. when we get a sample, we'll get an idea. >> americans living abroad, they're going to count those votes. and u.s. military personnel living all over the world, they can vote in their home state of pennsylvania and those votes will be important as well. >> right. and they're always counted. they're always counted, as they should be, those serving in uniform around the world or just americans living overseas, who serve in embassies or work for international companies overseas. if a race isn't close, if that's an 80,000-vote lead and we know there are 1,000 or 2,000 ballots coming in from overseas, not that they're not important but they won't determine who the winner his. >> arizona secretary of state katie hobbs joins us right now. as you probably heard, bill weir
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got the numbers, we just got 70,000 new votes from maricopa county, largest county in arizona. how many votes are left out there, how many votes do you still need to count? >> so statewide, 173,000. maricopa has 92,000. >> 173,000 votes still need to be counted. and of that, maricopa, what did you say? >> 92,000. >> does that include the number we just had, the nearly 70,000 votes we just reported? >> no. that does not include those. >> does that include the provisional ballots? >> yes. that includes provisional ballots. total statewide, there are about 47,000 provisional ballots. we can't count those until tuesday because counties have five business days to resolve those and make sure they're eligible to be counted. at the end of the day, not all of those provisional ballots actually will be counted because they're not all going to be eligible voters.
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>> so just to confirm, just review the numbers one more time, i want to make sure we have it right. >> yep. 173,000 ballots statewide. 92,000 ballots in maricopa county. and that includes 47,000 provisional ballots which we won't count until wednesday and not all of those will end up being counted. >> as far as regular ballots, there are still, what, about 126,000, is that what you're saying? >> yeah. >> and when do you think we'll get those numbers? >> we should, i think, get most of them by tomorrow if not sunday. >> do you think we're going to get any more tonight? >> maricopa usually would have let us know that by now and they haven't, so i don't think so. they're counting around the clock. >> john king has a question for you, secretary.
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>> as you've watched the trajectory here, the provisional ballots, we're dealing with the same issue in pennsylvania, so i just want to make sure i'm describing them correctly. these are people who either requested a mail-in ballot or didn't get it or were afraid to put it in the mail so they showed up to vote and people gave them a provisional ballot, you need to check the books and make sure they didn't vote twice, am i describing those correctly, things like that? >> yes. for the most part. also, if somebody comes and they don't have the right i.d. with them, they would vote a conditional provisional ballot and then they have to go back and show their i.d. before that ballot can be counted. >> do you have any reason to believe, se the lead that biden right now has? >> well, provisional ballots tend to skew democratic for the most part, if you look at arizona's history.
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so, you know, i really am not comfortable speculating what they're going to be like this year because honestly, nothing in terms of voting patterns has gone according to what we've seen in the past. >> and move thest of these balle coming from maricopa county? >> yeah, there's about 15 or 16,000 provisional ballots in maricopa county and 18,000 provisional ballots in pima county. >> what about military ballots and americans living abroad? >> those aren't separated out. we'll know that number towards the end of the month. >> so that's going to be a while, to get those numbers in. what's good, secretary, you're counting all these ballots, we appreciate that very, very much. these elections have consequences and we're grateful to you and your team once again for what you're doing. katie hobbs is the secretary of state for arizona, thanks very
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much for joining us. >> and she said this is the biggest county, provisional ballots, some of those won't be counted. so this number in maricopa county, what we're looking for next, is about half that, half that are ballots that we know are legitimate ballots to be counted. historically, as she needed, provisional ballots have skewed democratic in arizona, she was reluctant to make that prediction this time because of the pandemic and people are voting in different ways. but if you're inside campaigns, if you're in the trump campaign, you know you have to win an enormous percentage of those votes to catch up, even though it doesn't look like a gigantic lead. we'll see, we'll keep counting them. >> we got 70,000 votes in from arizona. biden's lead went down a bit, 29,861. we're watching arizona and all these states. jake? >> thanks, wolf. i know there are a lot of viewers out there who are frustrated that we are not calling these states. and just to remind you, we're just waiting for the data to
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justify confidence in projecting this. this is very high stakes. it's very important that people in the media and the people in the election centers get it right. and that is what people are trying to do. and of course you at home, whether you're rooting for donald trump or joe biden, you want an answer, you want to know, it's been dragging on for a long time, we get it, we hear you. we just want to make sure we get it right. some people might remember in 2000 when the media awarded the state of florida to george w. bush. al gore saw that, conceded, and then people in the media retracted florida and al gore had to call george w. bush and retract his concession. no one wants to go through that again. everyone in the media wants to get it right. but of course you're frustrated. imagine how the two men running for president feel. let's check in with them. let's start with arlette saenz who is covering the biden campaign.
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she is in wilmington, delaware. article arlette, joe biden and his team thought by now major media organizations would have called this race and he was plan to go give a speech tonight. what is he planning to do now? >> reporter: well, jake, joe biden is still expected to speak tonight regardless of whether this race has been called. aides early in the day were hopeful that the race would be called in joe biden's favor today. but they have now recognized the reality that that is not going to happen for a little bit longer, potentially. and so we are still waiting to hear what exactly the format of joe biden's speech tonight will be, whether it will be here at the chase center. and the speech is likely not to declare victory in any way, but to talk about the current state of the race and his growing lead that he has seen in states like
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pennsylvania, a state that is very personal to joe biden. he also over the course of the past day, it was almost 29 hours ago that we last heard from joe biden. he urged that people stay calm and patient as this vote count plays out. and that is something that we are seeing the campaign lean on again today. they are very eager for a call, but they are having to practice patience as the counting continues, as they are still waiting to hear whether they will top officially that 270 electoral votes, jake. >> all right, arlette saenz, thank you so much. again, the democratic and republican officials and campaign officials who we and our reports have all been speak to go, especially the democrats in pennsylvania and arizona and nevada, all do expect that they will be happy when the count is over. georgia is another question because that is likely headed to a recount. we knew that the race in arizona
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was going to tighten. we said that to you yesterday. and now it has in fact tightened, and donald trump has built up his vote count there. you just saw him net about 7,000 votes. but this does not mean that anything huge is going to change in terms of the trajectory of these races. that said, there is still hope on the trump side of things. and donald trump, president trump, is at the white house right now, and he's asking questions about how things are being handled by his team. let's bring in kaitlan collins who is covering the white house for us. and kaitlan, what are you hearing about what president trump wants? what is his latest grievance? >> reporter: well, that's a good question, jake. of course we've heard all day that the president has been pretty angry, pretty frustrated as he's watching these numbers come in, watching joe biden edge closer to the presidency. what you just said about arizona, i'm looking at what i tweeted a few days ago.
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trump campaign officials told us on the record they expected to win arizona by 30,000 votes. of course we've seen how that margin has changed there. but the question of whether or not the president is going to get 30,000 votes ahead of biden is going to raise a lot of questions about the math that the trump campaign has been doing behind the scenes. so we'll see where that ends up. they're certainly still watching it. jake, something else we are now reporting on tonight, as you may have noticed, that the paid government spokespeople for the president have all but disappeared from the airwaves since tuesday. we are now told that's for a reason, because white house attorneys advised white house spokespeople and other government officials that they should not be going and commenting on the drama that has been unfolding surrounding the election because they are concerned it will violate the hatch act, of course that law that prohibits federal government employees from engaging in political activities while they're acting in their official capacity, something that the trump administration has widely dismissed, something they've mocked at times, people
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line kellyanne conway. it's interesting because the president likes to have his surrogates on tv, defending him, touting his accomplishments. it's noticeable this week that you have not seen people from the white house, the only people who have done appearances, kayleigh mcenany did one acting as a trump 2020 campaign adviser. we saw his economic adviser larry kudlow do another appearance today. jake, that is so rare, to only have two officials go on tv since tuesday. typically we get two officials on fox news every hour, it seems like, at the white house. and now we are told that white house officials have been advised by white house attorneys they should not be going on television and talking about what's going on surrounding the election. so they're relying on the campaign to book officials, they're the ones you're seeing, and not the paid government spokespeople talking about the president, defending his baseless claims of voter fraud. >> a curious time to suddenly start caring about the hatch act. kaitlan, i want to ask you about something you reported for us the last hour, which is
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president trump expressing frustration that his legal team is somewhat wanting. i heard from a source that jared kushner, the president's son-in-law and a senior adviser to the president, had told president trump before the election that the legal team was all taken care of, and that is one of the reasons why president trump is frustrated, because he was told it had been taken care of and then he looks up and he sees it's not exactly the an go algonquin roundtable representing him when it comes to the legal case. have you heard anything along those lines? >> that's so interesting that a source told you that, because we had heard from several people that there was frustration with jared kushner over the team he had assembled. jared kushner is often seen as the de facto chief of staff, of course mark meadows is the
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official chief of staff but jared kushner often takes the lead when it comes to things related to the campaign and related to the president's reelection effort. so we had heard there was frustration with jared kushner. we hadn't heard that he had told the president they had everything taken care of but clearly we're seeing how they weren't as well-prepared as they thought they were going to be. and we saw this play out with impeachment. remember, they added attorneys at the last minute because they were worried about what that was going to look like. alan dershowitz, ken starr, pam bondi, that kind of legal crew came in. we're seeing the same situation here but they're not relying on the republican senate to keep the president in office this time, they're relying on voters, and it's not playing out for them in places like pennsylvania. >> indicakaitlan collins, thanko much. >> i think certainly joe biden, they had planned to celebrate
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tonight, and they're probably not going to be able to do it. but, you know, you will see biden come out and try to fill that space that we've been talking about, the sort of president in waiting kind of space, so that with president trump kind of at the white house, and he's tweeting a little bit, but he's not really out there. there's a lot for joe biden to do. on the legal front, i do find it interesting that they have suddenly discovered they're not prepared. and i wonder if it could be because this map that they are defending is probably a lot bigger than they imagined, that perhaps they thought they would be waging legal battles in one state, maybe two, not four. and now they're trying to claw back in two states that are red states, that they have lost ground to joe biden in, in georgia and in arizona. so both of those scenarios i think are -- were possible prior to tuesday, right?
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i think everybody imagined that there would be some states that were competitive that maybe had not been four years ago. but i'm not sure that that really sunk in for the trump campaign team. and even for jared kushner, who, dana, as you know, is the numbers guy, he's the guy who has so much confidence in the trump campaign's numbers and believed this race was going to be a win for the president. >> and it's so surprising that there's finger pointing going on about why there is not a proper legal team set up for the president to be ready right now. i mean, you know, we've seen this movie before. and i'm hearing similar things. but what i'm also told is, the word that has been used a couple of months with me is "process." it is a process that people around the president are trying to get him to. and his supporters, as we talked about earlier. but they can't get him in the next step of the process until they see numbers. and although we're all watching, you know, all four of these states, pennsylvania seemed to
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be the one on the cusp of giving us the answer. the one i'm told the president is really watching the most closely right now is arizona, because it is such a red state, and that is really clearly out of his reach, if it is, people around the president feel much more confident that they can move that process along a little further with him when and if the time comes. >> but it's not as though if he wins arizona -- >> no, the opposite, meaning if he loses arizona, it will be easier to convince him. >> what about joe biden as he watches this unfold? votes have been going in the right direction for him in pennsylvania, in georgia, in nevada. he only needs one of those, pennsylvania, or he could do georgia and nevada. they've not been going in his direction in arizona but, you know, all things being equal, i would rather be biden than trump in terms of this. >> yeah. >> what do you think is going through his mind? >> i was trying to figure that out. if i were him, i would think, i waited four decades, what's four
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days? i mean, this is the third time he's tried to run, and the most, you know -- obviously the closest he got by far. but it's hard. it's hard. i can't even imagine being in that position. but it's better to be, as you said, in that position than in a position where you think that the votes will finally be counted and you might lose. >> everyone stay right there. new numbers are coming out of pennsylvania. the big question, will pennsylvania propel joe biden to the white house. we're standing by for new numbers from the keystone state as election night in america continues.
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let me repeat that. total votes, 9,288. 7,300 for joe biden. 1,875. that's a mix of military votes as well as a part of those 29,000 votes that they're reconciling that has come out before. the rest of the votes that will be coming out at this point would be all mail-in ballots, typical mail-in ballots from allegheny county. they've been running 80/20. >> just to be clear, that 9,000, is that the entirety of today? >> since the last time we spoke. in addition to what we did last time. >> do you know when we're going to get the rest of the totals? >> i don't know, they're working on it right now. maybe in an hour or two. i don't know. they're working. >> and that 9,288, that's made
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up of remaining military ballots? >> yes, the military ballots are now finished. >> will they be working through the night, rich? or will they take a break? >> they'll work as much as they can. >> can you repeat those numbers one more time? >> 9,288. joe biden, 7,300. donald trump, 1,875. the other ballots would be like the third party candidates. >> those ballots, again, include the damaged -- >> no. the damaged ballots were all redone before. we announced those i guess a couple of hours ago. >> these are the overall numbers of the mail-in? the 29,000? >> 29,000, okay. >> how many ballots are left to count in allegheny county? >> i don't know the answer to that, we'll get that to you. >> are you able to [ inaudible ]? >> those are done. >> but the military ballots will
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still be done on tuesday; is that correct? >> that's correct. >> these are the totals, including the damaged ballots, the military ballots, and part of the 29,000, these are totals right at this moment? >> that's right. >> got it. >> thank you, guys. >> thank you. all right. so, guys, i'll read the totals again from rich fitzgerald, the executive from allegheny county. 7,300 volts for joe biden. 1,875 votes for donald trump. these are totals, now. these are the total number of those mail-in ballots that they are counting, not cast on election day. these were mail-in ballots that they are counting in allegheny county. they started out, we should say, today, with about 35,000 plus votes left to count. so there are still tens of thousands of votes left to count in allegheny county. we don't have that exact number. but a total of 9,288 votes have
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been cast -- counted tonight, excuse me. and for joe biden, 7,300. for donald trump, 1,875. so joe biden, his lead in allegheny county mounting tonight, wolf. >> an important lead indeed, brian, thank you very much, thank mr. fitzgerald for us as well. it looks like a dramatic net gain right now, john, for biden. we haven't tallied that yet in our official number. the old lead was 21,705. that's going to go up to close to 27,000. >> it's going to go over 27,000. it's a net gain of 5,425 votes. excuse me for walking across and flipping my back on you. it's a new statewide lead of 27,130. sorry about my scribble. that's a "2." let me do that a little neater for you. i know you at home are having
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fun with this. 27,130, which, so 5,000 plus, right? the whole question of the evening has been, does this lead keep growing, does it get to a point where it is statistically improbably, near impossible, for donald trump to catch up. we still have ballots remaining. you heard them in allegheny county, they have some. there's more ballots to count statewide. but you're getting to the point where it's already difficult, increasingly difficult for the president of the united states to catch up. every time you get a lopsided add like that, it continues. >> and he pointed out those were military ballots, other ballots, provisional ballots. there's still a whole bunch of mail-in ballots they're waiting for. and those are lopsided in favor of biden. >> they have been consistently lopsided in favor of biden. let me throw this out of here. i have to turn this off first. sorry about this. i'll turn this off and get this out of the way. they're consistently lopsided in favor of biden anyway. even more so in the counties like allegheny, which is pittsburgh, a largely democratic area. you see joe biden is getting 60% of the vote, just shy of that, in that county. what we've seen in the mail-in
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ballots is, joe biden comes in disproportionately higher than that. again, when you come back out statewide, what just happened? the news there from allegheny county quite significant, 5,000 plus added to the statewide lead. again, the official numbers, you'll see these change any second, they go into the statewide system, and they'll change probably while we're standing here. it will be 27,130 as joe biden's lead. can president trump catch up in the commonwealth of pennsylvania or will joe biden continue what has been happening throughout the day which is a slow but methodical, steady build in that lead? again, 3.327 million votes cast. 3.305 for president trump. you see the math. 6.6 and counting. you see 27,000. it doesn't seem like a lot. but it's a sizable number now. it was 5,500 to start the day, now up to 27,000. as you've just watched it grow consistently, that's what you're looking at. it's grown from the morning, consistent percentages when you
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count these mail-in ballots. and a consistent build for joe biden. >> just for those viewers who may not necessarily be following this as closely as you and me and a lot of other viewers, there are 20 electoral votes from pennsylvania. and if biden wins, he goes from 253 to 273. you need 270 to be elected president of the united states. and it looks really hard for trump to overcome that 27,000-vote advantage. bob casey, the senator from pennsylvania, the democratic senator from pennsylvania, is joining us right now. so what do you think, senator? we did some of the math, it looks like biden now has a 27,000-vote lead in your state, the commonwealth of pennsylvania. >> wolf, that's a pretty stable gain. i know the count statewide today was slower than everyone hoped. but now you're seeing a big jump. look, as you and john and others
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have played out over several days now, especially in the last number of hours, this is inexorable. every time there's a new report, joe biden is gaining votes and adding to the margin. and that's why i said from the beginning, he's going to win pennsylvania. i think he already has, in essence. we'll see what the next batch of votes bring. it's a methodical process and people have been very patient. >> john king has a question for you, senator. >> senator, one of the things we're waiting for right now, one of the sources of our caution, in addition to the mail-in ballots we're waiting for them to count, 100,000, ballpark number, provisional ballots to be counted, we know that a lot of those are from philadelphia and the suburbs, a predominantly democratic area. but in the history of your
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campaigns in pennsylvania, can you make a conclusion about provisional ballots or are they sometimes anomalies, do they sometimes come in in ways inconsistent with the other votes in those communities? >> it's hard to be -- i've never done an analysis of, you know, the provisional ballots in previous elections. but i can tell you, talking to a number of folks, including brian todd who was just with rich fitzgerald, just within the provisional votes, good numbers for joe biden. even when they had a batch of votes that included military and overseas ballots, still he's done pretty well. rich would know more about the mechanics of that, as would other county officials in philadelphia and suburban philadelphia. but i don't think there's much of a -- doesn't seem to be much of a different pattern or a variance between the pattern
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with the mail-in ballots as opposed to at least the early provisionals we've seen. we'll see if that can change, it doesn't seem to be changing all that much. it may not be the high percentage of votes for joe biden as we saw in the mail-in ballots and still are seeing. but the provisionals don't seem all that different. earlier today there was a lot of analysis of the provisionals from small republican counties. so the initial round of collection of -- or tabulation of those ballots may have led some to believe it was skewing towards the president. but i think as you look at more and more provisionals from these democratic counties, it's going to follow a similar pattern, maybe at a lower altitude or lower percentage. >> the math is now official. john's handwriting, you saw it was 27,130.
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it's now been updated, the system has been updated. biden is ahead, senator casey, by 27,130 votes. so what do you anticipate? we spoke with you yesterday, we spoke with you today. do you still think that number is going to go way, way higher? >> i think it will when you get to the official count, because as many of -- as many pennsylvanians know, often on election night, under the old system, so to speak, before mail-in ballots, you would have a count of maybe by the time the newspapers reporting on the rice, 95% of the vote, similar to where we are now. and the tabulation would continue, even though they would say, the tabulation continues, and the numbers rise. i was in a race in 2012, i won -- i was winning by, i don't know, 490-some thousand.
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i really wanted to win by a half million margin. by the time they stopped counting two weeks later, my margin went up to like 512,000. so you can see how much margin you can get even over a short time frame. but i think the best estimate that the voter project has is that the ultimate margin, meaning the official margin that is the margin they use to certify, will be in the neighborhood of 100,000 votes. and that would be -- you know, if it hit 100, it would be more than double the margin of 44,292 that president trump won by. >> senator casey, i'll stay in close touch with you, thank you so much for joining us. once again, joe biden's lead in pennsylvania now 27,130. we're standing by. we anticipate we'll be hearing from the former vice president tonight at some point. we'll see what he has to say. you're watching our special coverage. we'll be right back. okay, give it a try.
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numbers out of pennsylvania. joe biden has extended his lead as more of the votes are being counted. his lead is now 27,130 votes ahead. more votes still to be counted. we are waiting to hear from vice president biden. we understand he is, in fact, planning to speak tonight. we will bring that to you live. that's something we have been hearing about all day, and they have had set up, actually, made for several days now, but we will see exactly what time the vice president comes out. we also believe that vice president-elect kamala harris or potential vice president-elect kamala harris will also be speaking. we talked about what they might talk about. one of the things i think that vice president biden may
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reference or kind of focus on is just the images that we have seen over the last, you know, several days now of poll workers counting ballots, even today seeing sara sidner outside of polling station where the poll, you know, people had come to cure their ballots by law and they had had -- they got a text message or a call from a poll worker saying you have to be here by 5:00. there was a long line of people. there was something incredibly inspiring about watching the people. >> it is. there is quiet heroism in this. just people who believe in this process. >> and one of the guys in the line was saying that he met a bunch of people there. none of them asked each other who they were voting for. they were getting along and talking about being a part of the process. >> yeah. it's great. and i am just stunned as i look at the numbers mounting up on the popular vote, you know.
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just a phenomenal number of people who participated in this election in the middle of a pandemic. and that, you know, there are a lot of things that we broad about and properly so that are tearing at our democracy. the issue of trust being one of them. and then you have this. people investing of themselves in this system and spending their time working the long hours for no real reward because they think it is their civic duty, their responsibility, and they want to be a part of it. you're right. republicans and democrats working side by side. it's a very -- that is the good news here. that is the encouraging part of what has been a very difficult year. >> when you think about how many people turned out, we don't have the final numbers yet, obviously, but it's possible joe
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biden, if he is elected, will have the highest popular total of anybody in recent history or ever to become president of the united states, and donald trump's numbers could be huge as well. and so people participated. they voted. and that is why this hole notion of stop the count is so destructive and counter productive in every single way. because, of course, you should not stop the count. that's what those people getting in line by 5:00 because they knew that was the dead line and they wanted to make sure, when we say curing a ballot, hthere may be something they needed to bring. >> bring in an i.d. >> people said i want to make my vote count this time. not stop the count, but make it count. >> this particular polling place was in nevada where sara sidner was. it was one of the places that lindsey graham earlier when he
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was on fox saying he didn't un were likely voting there. he is saying that without any particular evidence. he didn't present any. but a number of the people online were people had to come back and present another form of i.d., which is kind of the -- >> this is a complete aside. you know what else is stunning about that? i am old enough to remember when lindsey graham was one of the republicans who was a champion for immigration reform. that's how far he's traveled from that point to where he is now, you know, saying these things without any evidence to do what we've seen from the president, which is to demonize -- >> the irony of the chairman of the judiciary committee, you know, making arguments without any presenting any evidence. >> talking about how crooked it is in philadelphia. it's absurd. and rick and i were talking
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about this earlier, but it is interesting to watch how republicans decide to walk this line and those who jumped immediately in the president's corner, who may be running for president at some point, and want him in their corner versus -- >> or twant his people there. >> well, and he can bring them potentially, and those, like mitch mcconnell, who are being a little bit more careful, and mike pence, by the way, saying, you know, just count every legal vote versus going to war. and the republicans are going to have to self-identify on those, along those lines, because the president -- if i were -- rick and i were talking about it. if i were the president and i were really going to go to war, i would try to line up the troops for me. and i haven't seen that. >> the irony of the war analogy -- >> can get another aside? do you have another minute? >> sure, go ahead.
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>> a little bit of hope. i know the trump folks are sitting there, just in pennsylvania david and i have been talking about why we have such a big number of outstanding votes, because the mail-in votes looks like there aren't very many. there are 115,000 provisional votes. the provisional votes are by and large people in the primary when you vote inside pennsylvania when you check a box saying send me a absentee ballot for the general election. a lot of people did that and forgot, particularly republicans, and then donald trump said don't vote by mail. so a lot of republicans checked that box, didn't vote by mail, and went and voted in person, and as a result had to vote provisionally. so there is the sense, at least in pennsylvania, don't count us out yet because we have provisional votes it might skew republican. >> we are waiting for joe biden to address the nation. more numbers could put him over the top in pennsylvania.
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♪ we expect to hear from joe biden soon as he stands at the brink of winning the white house. i'm wolf blitzer. we are told the former vice president will likely talk about his growing lead over president trump stopping short of declaring victory until he is actually clinched. biden made significant gains in his lead in pennsylvania just a few moments ago. he is now some 27,000 votes ahead as ballots continue to be counted around pittsburgh and other areas. with leads in arizona, nevada, and georgia as well, biden is well positioned to secure the 17 more electoral votes he needs to
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reach 270. trump has 213 electoral votes and no real options left as biden inches closer and closer to becoming president-elect of the united states. let's take a look at the numbers in this key race alert right now in pennsylvania. 96% of the estimated vote is in. joe biden, he has 47.6%. 49.6%. trump as 49.2%. he has a lead of some 27,130 votes. 27,130. that's a significant lead right there. let's go to wilmington, delaware. the former vice president, i take it, is going to be speaking soon from where you are. is that right? >> reporter: he will be, wolf. right now joe biden is still at home here in wilmington, delaware, but we do expect that the former vice president will soon be speaking. now, this is not expected to be a victory speech since the race
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still remains uncalled, but instead the former vice president is expected to talk about his current views on the race, where he is seeing his lead growing in states like pennsylvania. aides at the start of the day had been hopeful that the race would be called by this moment, by the time that the former vice president would be speaking, but that reality has set in that for the time being this rerace remains uncalled. now, the former vice president is expected to strike some similar tones to what we've heard from him from past days where he has talked about the need to respect the vote-counting process and be patient as this plays out. now, while we are waiting for the former vice president to speak, our colleague jeff reports that just outside of the chase center hundreds of people have gathered hoping to catch a glimpse of the democratic nominee. many people had been hoping that the former vice president would
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be delivering a type of victory speech this evening, but here at the chase center outside right here where we are it is quiet. you are not seeing the cars that were parked here just a few nights ago on election night when the former vice president came out to speak. so for the time being, the biden campaign remains in this waiting period. they are hoping that the race will be called soon, but joe biden has to wait for the time being for quite a little bit more time, at least, to learn whether or not his third run for the white house will be successful. >> it's looking very, very good for him. we shall see. we are anxious to see what he has to say. thank you very much. john king is with me. we have been spending quality time together lately. let's talk about what we anticipate the former vice president might say in his remarks. that's coming up fairly soon. >> all right. he has to be careful. he can walk up to the edge of victory. and just imagine the anxiety and sense of anticipation for joe
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biden. we see anger from president trump. we see anger from president trump because, again, this state is trending away, modest growing lead for joe biden. this state is heading for recount. not since bill clinton in the 19 90s has it been blue for president. joe biden leading here in arizona. donald trump won that state four years ago. democrats think they are changing the sun belt. joe biden has a chance to win there. joe biden leads there. so if you add all that up it not only gets joe biden across the finish line, it gets him up to 306 electoral college votes. it does appear inevitable to say this is what the american people want. the american people have done this. you can't do that tonight because the race has not been called. what is the delicate balance of saying i'm confident i will win? i understand democratic anxiety. the election was tuesday and here we are late on a friday evening. also as he has consistently
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reach out to president trump supporters. the president is ankry. he is trying to stoke the idea that the election is being stolen. the election is not being stolen. they are counting votes. they are counting legally cast votes. if the president or the team see anything wrong they have the right to prove it in the right process in a court of law. political rhetoric does not change votes. joe biden, it's a delicate moment. an amazing moment. joe biden ran for president first in 1987. this is his third try and he is literally knocking on the door of being the president-elect of the united states and three months away from taking office if the math continues. but the math is not final yet. so it's a delicate balance. but he wants to speak. >> the math in pennsylvania right now has improved pretty dramatically and even in the course of the last few minutes. >> we added about 5,000 votes to the tat otal from votes from allegheny county. that's blue, democratic area around pittsburgh is 27,130 right now.
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it was 5,500 and change to start the day. so the math has grown steadily. in a state with so many ballots vast, more than 6.6, approaching 6.7 million, then you say 27,000, that's not a lot of votes. it's a sizable lead. it is a sizeable lead in a competitive state. president trump won it by 44,000 and all expectations there are still votes being counted right now. joe biden's lead will grow because we know the bulk of the outstanding ballots are in places that are shaded blue on this map and some of those places he is getting 80% of the vote or more. the mail-in ballots, even in the red counties where the president has deep support, joe biden tends to be either breaking eve votes because democrats voted by mail in this election. there is an air of inevitability about this. we are not at the mathematical point where you can say, you know, statistical probability to
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call the race. this has been building throughout the day. we just talked to senator bob casey. he thinks it will go higher. we want to see it because calling this state is the last step. this would put joe biden over the top and he would then be the president-elect. >> the 27,000 number could go up and it would be increasingly difficult, it not impossible, for president trump to reverse that. >> there i would say the expect is it will go up and a democrat says why don't you call it? i get it. we understand the frustration. it's been a long few days. it's been a long few days for a worthy cause, which is counting votes. >> this is the presidency of the united states at stake. we can say the obvious. we can show you the obvious. everybody can understand the obvious. but given the fact that is the most sacred gift in our democracy we should count the votes. and the president of the united states, we are not waiting fto race because we know the
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president will attack us. we are not waiting to call this race because the president is saying there is cheating going on. i know a lot of democrats say the longer we wait the more the president can stir things up. we block that out. we understand that's out there. there is a process. a talented team of people crunch the numbers. they understand that. they understand that. they understand the methodical build in the biden lead. we have a statistical formula we say we want to look at how many ballots are left, where are they, is there any chance to do that, and we are in the ballpark at that point but not there yet. >> philadelphia right now, how many votes still outstanding in that democratic stronghold? >> i do not know the latest n i think earlier about 20,000 votes. >> 99% of the vote? >> i have not seen an update. you make a great point. the ballots left were here and in the suburban collar counties. this is where -- this is the money for democrats in
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pennsylvania. philadelphia city here and then bucks county, montgomery county, chester county, delaware county in this circle. joe biden winning them all. to echo the point, when we see the mail-in ballots, bucks county is the more competitive of the flilphiladelphia countie. what's happening here. we have seen that is a fact. those are the vote counts of the overall votes including election day votes. it's deceiving in some ways that there and also here in montgomery county when we see the mail-in ballots, you know, the vice president is getting 62 there, getting 51.5, 52 here. when the mail-in ballots come in it's higher because democrats made a conscious decision to vote by mail in this decision. >> during this coronavirus pandemic. we are standing by to hear from the former vice president in the meantime. >> reporter: so big speech for joe biden tonight. probably not the speech he thought he was going to be delivering. he thought he was going to be accepting the moment as president-elect, but nobody in
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the media has decided that data is there yet to project pennsylvania or arizona or nevada. what do you think he should say? if you were advising him, what would you have him suggested that this moment calls for? >> i would say less is more. i don't think this needs to be some kind of big speech. i mean, it's not -- he is not quite ready to do that speech that he needs to give when it actually is called. so this is just a moment to ask the american people to be a little bit more patient, to wait for it, to thank the election workers who are slaving over these votes and literally trying to count them manually, vote by vote. and just wait and see what the results are. i just think, you know, that the leadership moment is just in letting people know he is willing to wait, too. the big speech will obviously
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have to wait to later. >> i agree. my sense in talking to sources around the biden campaign is that is all he can do, is to act presidential without actually saying he is going to be the next president. which is something that joe biden has been trying to do, the whole premise of his campaign. so it's not that far afield from what we have heard from him time and time again. of course, they are tearing their hair out in biden headquarters, in wilmington and all the people who are, you know, joining them virtually. but they also feel super confident about the way that the numbers are going. >> oh, sure. i would, too, if i were them. the numbers are going in the right direction in georgia and nevada and pennsylvania and in arizona they are not going in the right direction, but democrats in arizona are confident that it's just going to be a bridge too far for trump, that the number of ballots and the margins he will need will not be enough. i think that there is an opportunity for the vice
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president to do more than he has in the last few nights, which is basically come out and say we feel good, but let's be patient, et cetera. i think there is an opportunity for him to say i am getting to work. and if it ends up that donald trump wins, then that's fine. but this is the third day in a row that 100,000 americans or more have been diagnosed with the coronavirus. we have a lot of stuff to do. here is the thing. he is inheriting, you know, a mud sandwich. i mean, the country is not in a good place economically. it's not in a good place when it comes to the coronavirus. infections are getting worse. deaths are getting worse. we haven't covered this in a few days because we have been waiting to see who is president is going to be. he needs to start setting expectations low as to how much the world is going to change when and if he becomes president-elect and start commu
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communicating to people who didn't vote for them, this is what i'm going to do. let's come together, kumbaya, but i am going to start working on this so your kids can go to school safely, businesses can open. why dnot do that? >> it's a really fine line. why not do that because saying that means that he is effectively saying i won. i mean, he might go that far, but it is kind of that never neverland that he is in right now that makes it difficult. he has been -- they made a big show of the fact that he went and had a coronavirus briefing yesterday, i think it was. so he has been showing that he is doing things that are not just waiting around for the results, doing things that are meaty and important and preparing himself. you know, i am not sure how far he could go given that nobody has said that he is going to be the next president of the united states. >> i think at the very least,
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jake, you're right, acknowledging. we've kind of -- there is a big thing happening. there is a major election going on. but we have hit records day after day this week for the coronavirus. and i do expect that he will probably acknowledge that as he did, i think it was yesterday, could have been two days ago for all i know. >> it's all been one day. >> but at the same time i do wonder if he will address -- i mean, just address the matter at hand. we are waiting for the ballots to be counted but there is going to it be a legal fight. and will he address that? will he talk about fighting for people's votes or denounce what seems to be an effort by the trump campaign to undermine the integrity of the entire election in order to get ahead of a few states. >> we are waiting to hear joe biden address the nation as we expect more numbers from the commonwealth that could give him the white house, pennsylvania.
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joe biden getting ready to address the nation. we will of course have live coverage once he shows up. we are watching that very closely. also we are watching pennsylvania very, very closely. right now biden just took a significant jump in his lead over president trump. he now leads by 27,130 votes, 49.6% to 49.2%. 96% of the estimated vote is in, in pennsylvania. let's go to pamela brown. pamela, what are we waiting for in pennsylvania right now? >> reporter: we are laser focused on what is going on in pennsylvania for good reason. when you look at the outstanding ballots right here, there are 89,000, as you see on the screen, outstanding mail-in ballots in pennsylvania. on top of that you have 101,000 provisional ballots. but what's interesting to note, in this number on the screen, a majority of those ballots are coming from blue counties. let's look deeper into that. when you look at philadelphia, there are around 38,000
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outstanding mail-in ballots. that includes 15,000 to 28,000 provisional ballots. those provisional ballots take a little bit longer to go through, these are briallots that people filled out because they didn't get their mail-in ballot or there was a problem. then in allegheny county, there was a release, a batch released earlier tonight. now there are 37 ballots outstanding there, including provisional ballots. they are working through the night in allegheny trying to bring us the latest numbers as soon as they can. in bucks county, another blue county right outside of philadelphia. there is 2,000 damaged ballots that need review and 6,700 provisional ballots. the provisional ballots take a little bit longer to get through. the only red one is luzerne where biden is from. a little more than 4,300 there. montgomery county 10,000 and chester. all of these counties have their own pace, own formula, own
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process for going through the ballots and posting them. we are checking up with them hourly. back to you. >> thank you very much. with that 27,130 point lead, vote lead that biden has over trump, if you do the math and you see what's outstanding, it's going to be really, really difficult if not almost impossible for trump toover s oe that lead. >> right. and then the geography. 30,000 plus out here, allegheny county. the blew tells you whue tells yd to know. again when they are counting the mail-in ballots, the total has been significantly higher than that because of the disproportionate voting for democrats. pam was talking about, move the state up here, modest number in philadelphia than i thought, making progress there, but still 30,000 plus here. joe biden's getting 81% and again in the mail-in ballot count it's been higher than that. remember in the rest of these ballots the president has to get
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60% plus and these are all in places where joe biden is winning. pam mentioned a modest amount in bucks county. modest amount left in montgomery county. modest amount in chester and delaware county. these are the suburban collar counties, all blue, all for biden, some by 60% or more. when we see the mail-in ballots it has been higher. luzerne county is a president that the president carried with 56%, 57% if you round up. however here when the mail-in ballots have come in biden has been leading. they have been disproportionately democrats voting by mail-in ballots. for the sake of argument, generous to the president, assume the ballots up here he breaks even or does a little better, run something like that, that would not be enough in the blue counties. they continue to come in in a lopsided way. i am being generous. we have not seen any evidence of that, in the large e counties especially. zwroeb is getting 42% of the
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vote election day, early voting and mail-in voting. the mail-in voting the last few days, the slow pace, the reason we are still here is it's taking a while. even if the n the red counties. luke at the map and you see 27,000 votes, you know, inside now, 100,000 more ballots or so and the map tells you donald trump has to win way outside what he has been doing in pennsylvania. especially because so many of these ballots, they are right here. the blue speaks for itself. joe biden's margins within those counties lopsided. >> people see a lot of red in pennsylvania. but those counties have limited populations. >> they do. most of them do. and so you come up where i said, luzerne, this is a larger one. the president gets 84,000 votes. do not underestimate the president's popularity vote in pennsylvania. he got 3.3 million votes. four years ago when he won pennsylvania he got 2.97 million votes. the problem for the president in
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pennsylvania is not that he is not turning out vote. he got more votes this time than four years. a good job. you are an incumbent president. i need to match that. i need to do that again. he more than did it again here. joe biden just beat him. democrats, more came out. to most of these points, this is conservative country, trump country. look at the numbers. then look at the population. 1,700 people here to win the county. you move to cameron county, elk county, 11,000. eights little bigger. 67 counties in pennsylvania. this is the 59th in terms of size. there are some. there are some that are modest size. there is no skrient -- most of these red counties are modest. this is the 50th in population, jefferson county, 17,000 votes. think about that. the president is winning there with 17,000 votes. that's a wow. that's impressive. the president's doing fine. 17,000 votes. then you come to allegheny county, joe biden is leading with 408,000 votes and they are still counting and then you come to the southeast corner of the
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state and philadelphia. joe biden is leading with more than a half-million votes. so these counties, you know, don't get me wrong, this is impressive for the president and they add up, all those red counties, but, but joe biden did -- there is a formula for a democrat to win. you know a republican is going to win 10,000 here, 15,000 there, the way the democrats counter that is that. a half-million. more than 400,000 votes in philadelphia. you come if here 300,000 and a gap over there. you come in here, another 180,000. when you round that up here, the population center of pennsylvania is right here in southeast pennsylvania, pennsylvania the suburban collar around it, 200,000 votes here versus 116,000 for the president. you take that 200,000 every day. no offense to the people of potter county. these are fabulous territories, a lot of agriculture in pennsylvania. the president did his job. he turned out his votes.
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remember the trump rallies in the final weeks. he did his job and turned out the votes. the problem for the president that 27,000 vote lead for joe biden likely to grow because the democrats, including the former vice president, born right here in scranton, pennsylvania, he did his job as well and the democrats in a very competitive state in a high turnout election, joe biden turned out more. >> he might wind up doing it in pennsylvania. biden what he did in michigan and wisconsin and re-create that so-called blue wall. >> that will be one of the stories of this election. this is what made donald trump president four years ago. stunned the democrats. donald trump, pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin. he tried it in minnesota, but here's where we were four years ago. four years ago this was the wow that changed america and put donald trump in the white house. joe biden said he is not the man for this moment, he can't do that. that was the central mission of the biden campaign. i am the blue collar guy who has
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an appeal with blue collar workers. we have to get to the finish line, right. we have to get to the finish line, call the race, make sure we know who the president-elect of the united states is and move on. as people study this in years, when you look at it, joe biden did not take a lot of votes away from donald trump. that's not what happened. that sometimes happens in elections. you beat me last time with 12. i have to take some of your guys away. that's not what happened. you find pockets of that. mostly what happened is the president turned out voters and turned out more this time. the democrats just learned the lesson of 2016 and they came to play. >> both of these candidates amassed even during a coronavirus pandemic a huge, huge turnout. we are waiting for joe biden to address the nation. we will have live coverage in wilmington wilmington. new details emerging as well. we'll be right back.
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arlette, covering the biden campaign for us as we await comments by vice president biden. any word when and if the vice president is actually coming out? it's now 10:30 on a friday night. i am not sure whatever they are trying to accomplish is going to be able to be accomplished at this time of night. >> reporter: joe biden did just recently leave his home, his motorcade has departed en route to the site where he is expected to deliver a speech tonight even though this race still remains uncalled. now, biden isn't expected to declare victory in his speech. that is something that will wait until the race is officially called by the networks, but he is expected to talk about where he currently views the race, including addressing the leads that he has seen in states like pennsylvania, georgia, arizona, and nevada. you know, biden is expected to strike similar tones to what we have heard him talk about in the past few days as he stressed the
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need to respect the process and remain patient and calm. now, a short while ago kamala harris did arrive here on site. we heard supporters right outside the chase center erupt in cheers. i am told that kamala harris will not be speaking tonight, but she will be appearing with the former vice president. that's a little bit different than what we had been told earlier in the day when aides had been hopeful this race would be called by this moment. but for the time being they have to remain patient as they are waiting for the counts to continue to come in to bait to hear if they are going to reach that 270 electoral votes. >> all right. we will continue to wait and see what the vice president has to say. it does seem odd, david, given all that has gone on. clearly, they were expecting to have some sort of -- >> yes. definitely plan b. and i think they waited -- my guess is they waited longer than
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they expected to hoping that the thing would congeal and someone would make a call. we had heard arlette mention that kamala harris was going to speak and introduce him. she is not speaking now. so that suggests that they had another plan, and, you know, the question is, i guess they had set it up, they had people there so they are going through with it, as you point out. it's a little bit bewildering as to what you are going to get out of it. >> because earlier on the way it had been sort of pitched was he is going to be have a primetime address. i mean, you know, this is still like -- >> now it's a late-night chat. >> yes. >> if you tell everyone you are going to have a speech and we assume it's because you are going to say thanks to the american people for making me the next president of the united states, and then you don't have the results officially declared or declared in any way, shape or form, then you have a choice.
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do you cancel it? ? you cancel it you look like maybe you think the election is in doubt, which they don't. so they have to go ahead now. >> also an argument to be made for both candidates, frankly, to want to keep themselves in the public eye so there is not this vacuum of -- look, iand, you kn little bit annoyed with the process, but joe biden is a healing presence. he is a calming presence. and i do think that we are in a moment where there are people, there is tension. i like hearing from joe biden. i am curious what he is going to say. i do hope that he does honor people working hard and counting the ballots and that kind of stuff and lift up democracy. it is an unprecedented year. who has ever been in this situation? i mean, you know, it's not like with al gore and bush, you have the big rally, it was called, it was called off arcs high drama
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between those two. gore had to call bush back, say i retract my concession. this is just sitting around looking at the television all day for him and the rest of us. >> when you talk about the year, the america that joe biden, assuming if he is, in fact, the president, will be the president-elect, the country he is going to have to try to govern over and govern with is, i mean, it is a very difficult situation. obviously, you know very well the situation that president obama and vice president biden inherited in 2008. but just today, and it hasn't gotten a lot of attention because of the eyes of the world on this election, but we passed for the third day in a row another record day of covid cases are 125,596, and there is no sign of that fading. >> this is, you know, i thought
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we had, when we walked in the door in 2009, i thought we had the worst hand of any president since franklin roosevelt. i didn't realize that record would stand for eight years, whatever, 12 years. but i have to say, between the virus, the economic problems attendant to the virus, some of the -- you know, the issues of trust that we talked about and the corrosion of institutional trust and alliances and so on -- >> and division, too. the america of 2008, i don't think it was as divided -- >> it wasn't. we saw the leading edge of it at the sarah palin rallies and so on. it really kind of exploded. look, without kind of spinning it at all, what is very clear from this election, i mean, we have this huge turnout. we celebrate it. we should. but we also have two distinctly different americas. and it's going to be a chore for a president who aspires to bring
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the country back together to find that common language and common agenda. >> brian todd is in allegheny county where more votes are coming our. what are you are you hearing? >> anderson, rich fitzgerald the county executive is going to give us updated numbers, we believe. here he is. >> this evening, they will be packing up and returning in the morning. the next batch i think they will have to do has a lot of processing in place. it will be much more time consuming. they have been able to push out as many of the 29,000 tonight. i don't have a number of how many. but the last batch is a total vote of 3,212 votes. joe biden got 2,436 votes. donald trump got 733 votes. total vote was 3,212.
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biden 2,436. trump 733. >> reporter: what category? >> they would have been part of the 29,000 that were in that cohort. >> reporter: that's in addition to the ones you updated an hour or so ago? >> yes. >> reporter: those are in addition -- >> we have done three numbers tonight. one was about 5,300. >> reporter: yes. >> one was about 9,200. and then this third one of 3,200. >> reporter: this 3,200 is part of the 29,000. >> that's correct. >> reporter: that was sent out incorrectly and resubmitted? >> yes. >> reporter: how many of that 29,000 are left? >> i don't know. some of those will be already included. that's what they have got to go through on this. this kind of last batch, it's a lot more complicated and more time consume to go review. >> reporter: the counters are
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stopping for the night. when will they resume tomorrow? >> probably sometime in the morning. we will get that word you to. i will check with them to see exactly. there is a lot of processing, like preprocessing that has to take place. so i don't know when they will be running the counter to bring numbers. >> reporter: you estimate that the 29,000 will be wrapped at some point tomorrow? >> i can't say that for sure. i really don't know. i will have to talk to the folks that know how that goes. >> reporter: when you say the people who are like anticipating this, it's moving at a snail's pace? >> what i will say is the folks have been working an unbelievable amount. and i will put our workers up against, you know, what else has been going on. but they have been really going at it. they have done a great job. i am so proud of the workers of allegheny county who have been here really not just for today and last night. they have really been working hard. and they will keep at it. and, you know, i got to be
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honest with you. these numbers are all going in the right direction. so i think it's pretty obvious where this thing is going. >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> no, that's a little more of again an involved process. they have to double-check if that person voted, if that person is registered. there is a lot to it. it staktakes a while for that. >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> i don't. >> so a net gain of another 1,703 votes, john, for joe biden. you can see it's just changed over there. his lead over trump has gone from 27,130. now 28,833. a net gain once again of 1,703 votes based on the latest results coming in from allegheny county. >> the second time in a couple hours we have gotten results, allegheny county, i want to pop it out. you see the totals in this county. give them a lot of credit. they are trying to count them as quickly as they can. this is the pittsburgh area and the area around it. we will come back to the statewide so you can see it. these are the new votes.
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2,436 for joe biden, 733 for president trump. 23% and 76%. the net gain 1,703 net gain for joe biden. where were we? we began this day at 9:00 a.m., that was 5,575. you have this methodical march for joe biden. you heard the administeringer of allegheny county saying pretty clear where this is going. he is convinced, and he is an expert at it, that joe biden is going to carry the commonwealth of pennsylvania. that happens that's 20 electoral votes and the joe biden is the president-elect of the united states. he is at 253 right now. again on day four, it's friday, a lot of people are wondering why hasn't it been called? a lot of criticism. we get that. caution is the word because this is the presidency of the united states. but facts are also facts as we have that caution and joe biden now building a lead that is
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approaching 30,000 votes and they are still counting votes. they have again to reinforce that point, most of the votes to be counted are down here. your eyes tell you why i am showing you that, they are all blue counties. joe biden has been performing well in these counties in the total vote and even better in the late mail-in ballots that they are counting. now there are provisional and military votes as well. everything we have seen tells us when they count more votes, that lead grows. >> it's going to be very, very hard for trump to overcome a nearly 30,000 vote lead at this late stage in the race in pennsylvania. >> he understands that. walk over, we have been going through this. if you haven't been with us, you will see it again. that's all you need. that's all you need. that would put joe biden over the top, 273. and it would be both mathematical victory that makes him the president-elect, a moral victory restoring pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin to the
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democratic party. donald trump took those away in 2016. and just to be clear, you know, if joe biden is still leading here and here. still counting volts. that would get him up to 290 and joe biden is leading here. this state, because the margin is so close, is going to have a recount. the trump campaign asking for a recount because the margins are so close. but pennsylvania, georgia, arizona, nevada, if that holds, joe biden would end the election with 306 electoral votes. you see some gray here. the president is leading in maine's second congressional district. the president is leading in north carolina, early count in alaska is counting slowly, we expect the president to win those. joe biden could get one, two, three, four, and end with 306. that would be well past what he needs obviously and a statement. >> 306 is what trump won four years ago against hillary clinton. i remember at the time he called it a landslide. >> he did. he did. he called it some other things
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and some of them weren't true. we don't need to go through them. he said the most convincing win, things like that. it was a convincing win. the 232 was hillary clinton's total four years ago. it looks like that is going to be -- if these holds, if we come back to where we are now, if north carolina, alaska, and maine second fwraeshl district go to the president, and these other ones where biden is leading stay there, we will have the flip side, 302 to 306 again. >> we are waiting to hear from biden. it's 10 h:45 you. see the flags. you see the podium. the lectern there. he will be speaking at some point making a statement. it's going to be interesting to hear what he has to say. jake, abby, it's all yours. >> it's a big night for the former vice president. not the big night he thought he was going to have perhaps when they originally planned this address. and they thought that by now a major news network was going to
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call one of the key states to bring him over the line of 270 electoral votes, but that has not yet happened however close it might be to happening in arizona or pennsylvania or nevada. but he still has a lot to say and he wants to get cracking. dana bash, while we wait for him to step up to the podium, what are you anticipating the former vice president might say? >> well, according to his people around him, people in the campaign, it's going to be an attempt to kind of build on what we have heard from him over the last few days. stay calm, stay patient, and like i said before, to give an air, an aura of being presidential, of saying, okay, this is what we do in america. this is what we do in a democracy. we see the votes counted. what i don't know is how much he is going to lean into the fact that he has got this. i mean, the fact he is coming
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out suggests that that is obviously what the message is that he wants to telegraph. >> yeah, i think though he is going to point out just as a statement of fact that he is leading in most of the states that have not been called by cnn, although some states have been called by other networks. he is leading in pennsylvania, in arizona, in nevada, and in georgia right now. and you heard that allegheny county election official just a moment ago say we know what direction this is headed in. and i think that's kind of the sense that we might get from joe biden tonight. that they know or they believe they know what direction pennsylvania in particular is heading in, which is for him, if he wins it, a decisive factor. >> it is an indisputable fact as you speak we see on the screen four states, georgia, nevada, pennsylvania, they are the color of blue with joe biden's face there. and four years ago those were donald trump wins. and that's what made him
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president. and we're not there yet on those, but that tells a very clear story. >> just a few minutes ago we heard from allegheny county, the county -- and there was a net awarding of about 1,800 votes for joe biden. we anticipate that's going to happen throughout the night as pennsylvanians continue to count the votes. there are still tens of thousands outstanding. the trend is very, very clear as you just heard from the allegheny county election supervisor. the trend is very, very clear that joe biden, the more they count, is just picking up vote after vote after vote because so many democrats disproportionately voted according to vote by mail, and so many republicans, trump supporters voted on the day of the election, and that continues to be the trend. we have watched it happen now for days, completely eroding donald trump's once surmountable lead based on day-of voting almost exclusively to the point that joe biden is now ahead by
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almost 30,000 votes. >> the president mused tonight about why the number -- his lead that he once had in pennsylvania went away. it's pretty simple. they are counting votes. they are counting as many votes as they can, as quickly as they can in a really laborious fashion in pennsylvania. so we have to give those election workers as much credit as we can. >> all right. here comes former vice president, and senator kamala harris, the would-be president-elect and would be vice president-elect. let's listen in. >> good evening. my fellow americans, we don't have a final declaration of victory yet, but the numbers tell us it's clear. tell us a clear and convincing story. we are going to win this race. just look at what has happened since yesterday. 24 hours we were behind in georgia, now we're ahead, and we are going to win that state.
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24 hours ago we were behind in pennsylvania, and we are going to win pennsylvania. and now we are ahead, but we are winning in arizona, we're winning in nevada, and in fact our lead over 300 electoral votes, electoral college votes. and look at the national numbers. we're going to win this race with a clear majority, with the nation behind us. we've gotten 74 million votes, i'm going to repeat that, 74 million votes. that's more than any other presidential ticket in the united states of america. and our total is still growing. we're beating donald trump by over 4 million votes and the margin is growing as well. and we've done well across
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america, and we're going to be the first democrat to win arizona in 24 years, to win georgia in 28 years. and we've rebuilt the blue wall that crumbled four years ago, pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan, the heartland of this nation. i know watching the vote tallies on tv move very slow, and it's as slow as it goes, it can be numbing. but never forget, the tallies are not just numbers. they represent votes and voters. men and women who exercise their fundamental right to have their voice heard. and a record number of americans of all races, faiths, and religions chose change over more of the same. they've given us a mandate for action on covid, climate change, systemic racism, the economy.
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they want the country to come together, not continue to pull apart. the people spoke. more than 74 million americans, and they spoke loudly for our ticket. but while we're waiting for the final results, i want people to know we're not waiting to get the work done, and start the process. yesterday, senator harris and i held meetings with groups of experts on public health and the economic crisis this country is facing. the pandemic, as you also know, is getting more worrisome across the country. cases are skyrocketing. it's believed we could see as many as 200,000 cases a day, and the death toll is approaching 240,000 lives lost. 240,000 empty chairs across america. we'll never be able to measure
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that pain, the loss, the suffering, that so many families have experienced. we know something about what it feels like to lose -- feels like to lose someone. and i want them to know, they're not alone. our hearts break with you. we want everyone to know on day one, we're going to put our plan to control this virus into action. we can't save any of the lives lost, any of those that have been lost. but we can save a lot of lives in the months ahead. senator harris and i also heard yesterday about how this recovery is slowing because of the failure to get the pandemic under control. more than 20 million people are on unemployment. millions are worried about making rent. and putting food on the table. our economic plan will put a focus on a path to a strong recovery. look, we both know tensions are high. they can be high after a tough
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election. one like we've had. but we need to remember, we have to remain calm. patient. let the process work out. as we count all the votes. you know, we're proving again what we've proved for 244 years in this country, democracy works. your vote will be counted. i don't care how hard people try to stop it. i will not let it happen. the people will be heard. our journey is toward a more perfect union, and it keeps moving on. in america, we have strong disagreements with strong views. those are inevitable in a democracy, and they're healthy. they're a sign of vigorous debate and deeply held views.
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but the purpose of politics is not unrelenting warfare. it's to solve problems, to guarantee justice, to give everybody a fair shot. and to improve the lives of our people. we may be opponents, but we're not enemies. we're americans. and no matter who you voted for, i'm certain of one thing. the vast majority of the 150 million americans who voted, they want to get the vitriol out of our politics. we're certainly not going to agree on a lot of issues. but at least we can agree to be civil with one another. we have to put the anger and demonization behind us. time for us to come together as a nation to heal. it's not going to be easy. we have to try. my responsibility as president will be to represent the whole nation.
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and i want you to know that i'll work as hard for those who voted against me as those who voted for me. that's the job, that's the job. it's called the duty of care for all americans. we have serious problems to deal with. covid, the economy, racial justice, climate change. we don't have any more time to waste on partisan warfare. and more than that, we have an incredible opportunity to build the future we want for our kids and grandkids. i've said many times, i've never been more optimistic about the future of the nation. there's no reason we can't own the 21st century. we just need to know who we are. this is the united states of america, and there's never been anything we're unable to do, to accomplish, when we've done it together. i hope to be talking to you
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tomorrow. i want to thank you all, and may god bless you and may god protect our troops. good night. [ applause ] >> former vice president joe biden, walking out with his running mate, senator kamala harris. it was quite a contrast from what we heard from president trump, if that's when it was, president trump's address was about him, his anger, his grievance, his desire to stay in power. we just heard a different message from the former vice president, who said that nothing was official yet. but he thought that it was clear where things were going. that they were going to win the race. he talked about how he thought it was a mandate, that he was getting from the american people. he and senator harris, given the 74 million votes as of now for him and the electoral college victory that seems quite within his grasp. and he talked about how the
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nation needs to come together. people may be opponents, but they're not enemies. and lastly, it was interesting that he talked about the voting process and the counting process, and how it can be numbing, but people need to remember that the tallies don't represent just numbers. these represent voters. >> that's right. he leaned into the fact that he believes he's going to win. he was very specific in the states in which he has pulled ahead. pennsylvania, georgia, he talked about arizona and nevada as well. but beyond that, how striking was how big that speech was. big. and all encompassing, and not just about the specifics, about coronavirus and other things that he wants to do. which are very important. but about democracy and coming together and the need for a more perfect union.
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i mean, it was a soaring speech, as soaring as we've heard from joe biden maybe since his gettysburg speech during the campaign. but he has made the pivot from candidate to president-elect, rhetorically. that's what he wanted to communicate. >> i was struck by exactly that. he said the purpose of our politics isn't total unrelenting warfare. he knows what is coming. and that this is not going to be a walk in the park in terms of dealing with the fallout from a contentious election. but he's signaling strongly that his intention is to move forward. and i did think it was also notable, we were discussing this earlier in the day, you know, joe bid joe biden is president also because the liberal wing of the party stick with him. he heard him refer to that
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today. he said this was a mandate for action on the coronavirus, the climate crisis, racism. those are all big picture priorities for democrats, the democratic base. he called them out specifically tonight to send a message. and both messages at the same time, which was clearly very intentional, just signaling to people he's going to try to do both things. >> yesterday, president trump in all caps issued a press release in which he said, if you count all the votes, the legal votes, i win. if you count the illegal votes, then they win. we discussed how the theory that he didn't tweet this, because if he had tweeted it, it would have been flagged as false information by twitter or facebook. so he put it out in a press release. he came out, we didn't know what he was going to say. we're long past the point of hoping for
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