i'm john berman alongside alisyn camerota. after three days, seven hours and 12 seconds or so on this roller coaster, very soon the united states is very likely to have a new president-elect. >> as joe biden's lead over president trump continues to grow in the key states of pennsylvania and georgia, so do his chances of claiming victory by the end of today. biden is pushing unity and patience, while president trump is defiant, and his legal team vows to, quote, keep playing until the whistle blows. >> so right now, but maybe not for much longer, joe biden sits at 253 electoral votes, president trump has 213. biden is potentially one state away from the magic number, and that's where we begin with the

cnn key race alert. so these are the states we're watching this morning. let's start with pennsylvania where joe biden holds a 28,000-vote lead. why is this important? 20 electoral votes. if he gets it, he wins the presidency. there are tens of thousands of votes left to be counted, most in very democratic areas. we will be getting new votes over the next couple of hours from pennsylvania. in the state of georgia, joe bide hands a 7,000-vote lead, very close there. 16 electoral votes up for grabs. biden's lead has grown overnight. we're expecting more votes from georgia. perhaps soon. there will be a recount there no matter what. the state of arizona next. 11 electoral votes up for grabs. joe biden's lead has been shrinking. right now he's at 29,000. there are well over 100,000

votes over left. president trump needs about 60% of the votes to take the lead. lately he has not been getting that margin. nevada, joe biden, 22,000 ahead. again, trump, largely democratic areas. anything could happen, but you get a sense of the trends in that state. we'll get more votes from nevada later this morning. overall, joe biden has 253 electoral votes, president trump has 213. the states in the map on whine, the states where they're still counting, and we will bring you updates as soon as we get them throughout the morning. let's walk over to phil mattingly at the magic wall to find out where things stand. phil, i want to look at pennsylvania. it could put joe biden over the top, maybe soon, depending what kind of vote we get. tell us what and where those votes are coming from. >> the reality is this. pennsylvania is key. pennsylvania has been heading in joe biden's direction now for a

couple of days. been the reason why joe biden has erased a nearly 600,000-vote deficit in the state. the big question is what's outstanding and where will that vote go? let's start with where the vote is outstanding, just shy of 90,000 votes right now, and a good chunk of them come in here. you'll notice it's blue, a democratic stronghold. anchored by philadelphia where joe biden has been regularly putting up big margins. how big are the margins? look at philadelphia. for biden, the vote that's been coming in has been even bigger than that. mail-in ballots which democrats have been winning handily, his margin is. between 86% and 88%. the outskirts pushing into the suburbs.

also going heavily to joe biden. also 30,000 votes shy, pittsburgh, allegheny county. we've seen the votes come. in they've gone big for joe biden. a bit of a closer margin. but here's the reality, the mail-in ballots, what's being counted right now in allegheny county? they've been going anywhere from 75% to 77%. it's why the trend lines are pointing in one direction. it's why the biden campaign feels comfortable this will end up in their columbn. the question is when and what is the full universe of the outstanding ballots as we go into these final days of counting? >> again, just to reiterate what you're saying, philadelphia over there, pittsburgh over here, tens of thousands of votes left. those have been very democratic-leading, disproportionately so, even beyond their vote totals.

one thing that's unknown are the provisional ballots. sometimes we're getting different numbers from different counties, 80,000-plus. i want to switch to georgia if i can. >> yeah. >> we have some sense of how they've been behaving nationally from votes that came in overnight from georgia. you can see joe biden has padded his lead. it's now 7 thought. doesn't sound like a lot, but it was 4,000 when i went to bed for an hour and a half at around 9:00. that's because some of the votes that came in from fulton county that were provisional. explain. >> provisional ballots, they're usually counted last. when they're counted, how are they going to go? are they going to track what we've seen over the course of

it. fulton county gives you an example. it's happening in georgia right now. overnight the provisional ballots went heavily for joe biden. we've seen it in pennsylvania and fulton county. it was a nice little surprise. they're tracking the margin from whichever county from which they origina originated. >> it may mean they're not tracking diggs proportionately to biden but they're not tracking against either. let's go back if we can to pennsylvania because that's where we expect to learn the most maybe over the next full hours. explain also in these trump counties -- trump has won many

of these counties by a lot, but late arriving vote -- actually the early arriving vote, the mail-in vote has still been skewing toward joe biden. >> i think this is the most important point. you talk about the strongholds and everything you see blue coming in for joe biden. it's not just that coming in big for joe biden. pull up one of president trump's strongest counties back in 2016. this county basically made the entirety of his margin in that state. that's how powerful he is in this county. in this county over the last 36 hours that margin has dropped from 69.6% to 63.6%. just because it's a red county doesn't mean there aren't democrats here. democrats are voting by mail. republicans in person. now that the mail vote is coming in, joe biden, regardless of where they are, red county or blue county is hitting big

margins and winning batches of votes coming out of these conservative counties. >> joe biden is leading with nearly dump that comes in. we'll come back to you as soon as we get more information. alisyn? >> guys, thank you very much. if biden captures the 20 electoral votes today, that would clinch the election. what's the status? >> reporter: yes, look. certainly the pressure is on, al s alisyn. the fact of the matter is this. we do know we're going to get more returns later this morning, but officials in philadelphia and pittsburgh in allegheny county, the rates may actually slow down at this point and that's because the outstanding

ballots were the most difficult. they all have to be reviewed by hand. here in allegheny county at 9:00 a.m. they're going to start that process up again. they're dealing with a pool of 91,000. this return board which was sworn in by the chief executive of the county yesterday has to go by the ballots by hand to make sure there are no duplicates, that there aren't any other errors this. is a process that will take a bit of time. they'll report it as quickly as they have them. but this isn't the same thing as opening up an envelope, taking it out of a security sleeve, and putting it through a machine. ite mercy labor-intensive than that. we've been hearing the same in philadelphia where they've been working on 20,000 to 25,000 ballots overnight. these are errors that could include a misplaced signature or

unreadable barcode. so, again, we can't tell you how quickly this will happen, but you've got officials across the state saying it's so paramount right now to exercise patience. we're trying to convey to all of you exactly how the process works. it is important to protect the process, the integrity of the process in any election, it is particularly important this year to also defend the integrity of the process and that's because the election has been coming under fire with baseless claims by the white house for months now. the governor here in pennsylvania, the secretary of state here in pennsylvania have continued to say they've seen no evidence of problems. this is just how the process works. despite that, you've got republicans in the state to call on the governor to implement an immediate audit while the count still ongoing in order to bolster confidence in the election process. democrats here have continued to say, you don't need to bolster

that. if anyone is questioning, if anyone has confidence of the problem, you'd have to draw that line to the president who's making an attempt to discredit the election before it ever started. alisyn? >> alexandra, thank you for that. we'll check back with you. >> and, alisyn? >> quickly. >> reporter: yeah. i wanted to tell you this is a process that's happened in the open. we could observe it yesterday and today. you have campaigns from both sides watching and cameras in the building. >> i appreciate you making that point. that's one of the problems or complaints on the republican side. we'll talk too you very soon for an update. meanwhile the trump campaign already launching legal challenges in courts. let's bring in jessica hughesman

who may be able to hear me. we're parachuting you in to talk about these lawsuits. >> no problem. you're a reporter for propublica. let's start with pennsylvania where we just got that report from alex. first is that post mark battle, okay? so ballots that are post marked by election day, we know, can still be counted in pennsylvania for three days. that deadline has expired yesterday. i thought the supreme court already ruled on this. why are we still fighting this one in court? >> i have no idea. your guess is as good as mine. i don't know if anything will happen with this lawsuit. the ballots that the trump campaign is convinced are going to come in have been taken care of by this lawsuit. it's not an open question anymore. i think the trump campaign is throwing out lawsuits so they have something to talk about for

the next couple of days. i dmoent that anything is going to come out of these lawsuits. >> i have a couple more in pennsylvania. that's one alex just ended her report with. the trump spokespeople -- i don't know if they're officially on his campaign, but they talked about they're very upset they're not getting observers. alex said there are observers, but they were moved from ten feet away to six feet away to better eye baball the situation. so are we good now? >> i think we were always good. they have always had observers in the places where observers are located. the democrats did not get a better view than they did. they were not six feet awhile while the republicans were kept ten or 25 feet away. they've always had a viewpoint into the counting or voting.

again, i think this was just a lawsuit to file a lawsuit. >> just to be clear, outside of pennsylvania, we're talking in nevada, in arizona, observers are allowed, and it's all equal, equidistant, between democrats and republicans. >> yeah, i think that's definitely the case. you know, poll watching has been a thing in the united states since the 1800s. this is incredibly well regulated. every single state has a specific set of laws. all poll workers are trained to work with poll watchers in the exact same way. so i think there's really no basis to claim that democrats were given a bigger advantage or republicans were prevented from observing the polls. that's simply not the case. it has never been the case. >> there are legal challenges in lots of states. arizona, georgia, nevada. in some of these, judges have already heard them and they seem

to be dismissing them out of hand. let's move on to recounts. georgia is definite. that's happening. georgia will be recounting. what about the other states? >> you know, i think there could be a couple of other states that come within recount territory, but if you look historically at the recounts that have happened, they really don't move the needle that much. we're talking 100, 150 votes here or there, certainly not enough to turn around the margins we're seeing coming out of georgia, pennsylvania, and nevada. so i think we might have to be patient and wait for some recounts, but, again, i don't anticipate that bucks the trend that we're seeing across the country today. >> how long do those normally take, those recounts? >> it depends on the state. in some states, they can do these recounts in call of days. in other states it takes a week or more. i think in this case we're

looking at more. we're looking at a little bit of a different recount process. you know, i think there have been a lot of people for many years that say we need paper backups for all of our votes. we've got that more than ever this year. we'll at least know the recounts are as high quality as they have ever been. i do believe in some states it will take several days. >> jessica, thank you very much for your reporting and all of this information. it's super helpful. >> thank you. >> let's go back to john. historically and traditionally, recounts can change tens of votes, hundreds, not thousands, and that's where we are right now. other major news overnight, white house chief of staff mark meadows tests positive for coronavirus. officials tell us he's been all over the white house since election day. we have new details on what's happening behind the scenes next. (harold) twelve hundred strings of lights. (betsy) quarter mile of tinsel. (harold) and real snow all the way from switzerland.

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welcome back to cnn's special live coverage. lot let's look at where things stand in nevada. joe biden leads by 22,000 votes. more than 100,000 ballots, most of it comes from democratic-leaning areas. joe biden has been growing his lead when ballots are counted. arizona, a little different story. ginnie m joe biden leads by 11,000. over 100,000. it's been mixed. donald trump has been leading in the vote as it comes back, but republicans will tell you he needs to get about 60% of the remaining vote. he hasn't been getting quite that much. if joe biden were to win both of these states, it would be enough to give him the election. overall, let's take one last look at the map at where things stand. right now joe biden has 253

electoral votes, trump has 213. the states in white are the states we're watching. we could get a view votes over the next few hours. >> meanwhile the white house chief of staff, mark meadows, has tested positive for coronavirus. he has not been seen wearing a mask. cnn's ryan nobles live at the white house. what are they saying, ryan? >> this is another example of the stark reality that still exists in the country. the coronavirus pandemic remains a serious threat in this country as the cases rise, including right behind me here in the white house. mark meadows testing positive for the coronavirus, this after being seen all week in many public events with a number of staffers close by with meadows not wearing a mask. he was here on election night for what was supposed to be the election night victory party for

president trump and he was also with the president that morning when he traveled to arlington to be at the trump headquarters. right now the white house not providing too much information about exactly who mark meadows was in contact with, saying they have been contact tracing, but we're told -- sources telling our jim acosta that mark meadows was actually asking staffers to deep his diagnosis a secret so it wouldn't become a big story. that's obviously not what happened, alisyn. >> ryan, when is the last time we saw president trump and what does he have on his schedule today? >> the last time is when he came out and spoke as the election results were still coming in and made a number of baseless claims about the election supposedly being stolen from him. that is the last time we saw him in person. of course, his twitter feed has been very active, but as of today, there are no public events on the schedule and that is very rare. it's unlike him go many days

without being in public and making a statement. not even a campaign event but something that shows him still governing. he's still the president of the united states. we'll see if that changes. it's not like president trump go very long with letting a political opponent have the last word, so perhaps we'll see the president in some way, shank or form today, but as of right now, there are no plans for that to happen. alisyn? >> anything can change on a dime as we no. ryan, thanks for all the reporting at the white house. up next, former vice president biden calls for calm as president trump threatens a long legal battle. we'll discuss where we go from here.

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special live coverage. john berman with alisyn camerota. by the end of the morning, really, we could know the winner in this presidential race. president trump is promising that his legal proceedings have just begun. joe biden is urging calm and promising to be a president for all americans. let's brink in errol louis and mae maeve. he's trying to look forward and imagining what happens once and if he becomes president-elect. what do you see. >> i think it's been really fascinating over the last couple of days to watch the way in which joe biden is trying to take the temperature of the country down. he came out last night in a purple tie. he has been talking about how there are no red or blue states, that he'll be a president for

allpeople, and i think that he talked about having a mandate last night given that we're seeing incredibly close margins in the states. one challenge he's going to have is donald trump was, in fact, able to turn out a lot of those so-called hidden trump voters that we were also skeptical of and turn out a lot of his people, and so i think that in order to succeed here to the extent that he can if he is, in fact, president-elect, joe biden's really going to have to think about a more pragmatic agenda that's going to address a lot of the economic uncertainty that we saw reflected in this election. we expected it to be the covid election and to some extent it was. it also was a reflection of the deep economic uncertainty in this country, and you saw that in particular in states like nevada where biden could have

potentially done a lot better if people weren't as worried about what the economy's going to look like as this pandemic continues, john. >> errol, i'm just curious about this process. let's just say pennsylvania's numbers come in today. let's say we can call it for biden, and president trump doesn't concede and he never concedes. then what? how does biden move forward? this is more than a nicety. >> do you know what the constitution says about concession phone calls? nothing. >> i know. how dare the founding fathers. >> it has no legal roll whatsoever. >> when is the starting gate, errol? >> it's interesting that the former vice president is waiting for media organizations to essentially dictate when he can step forward, publicly start organizing his tran circumstance and otherwise try to put things in order. the reality is, yeah, he's waiting on other people. president trump is not going to

be one of those people. it would make absolutely no sense to wade for the trump campaign and the trump administration to decide they're going to drop their legal arguments, drop their political arguments, and declare that the game is over. on the other hand, allowing media organizations to do that puts joe biden in a tricky position as well. we know that he wanted to get a declaration yesterday and start moving forward. well, that didn't happen. if you look at what the "associated press" and other news organizations are doing, they're going to wait, you know. it takes georgia off the map in some ways until there's a recount. news organizations are not going to declare anything definitively, i don't think. there are other forms of uncertainty that could cloud his ability to move forward. on the other hand, look. i think we all see where this is heading. we understand that the electoral college count at some point could, in fact, if a certain number of states line up for joe

biden in a way that is unimpeachable, then, yes, he will be declared by one or another major news organization. he'll then pick that up. he'll start his transition, and we'll all move forward. i mean whether or not the trump folks want to signal to a morass of conspiracy theories and complain to their dying days they were kept too many feet away from the vote-counting process in philadelphia, you know, that's up to them, but the country clearly is ready to move forward, alisyn. >> one sign that the apparatus of government is working independently from the political operation inside the white house is the secret service, which is already treating joe biden differently than they did before election day. they have increased the security around him substantially. and the traditional transition apparatus will kick into gear regardless of the lawsuits. the lawsuits will play out how they play out, but it will not keep the business of the country

in all likelihood on moving. maeve, one thing is clear. biden is handling this in a certain way to reach out to all parties. he's chosen not to spike the ball. one thing i learned from covering george w. bush in 2000 after he won by 530 votes and two electoral votes, the mandate you get is the mandate you take. this is a guy who barely won the election and went into the office and passed a huge tax cut that was politically complicated and controversial, passed a huge education bill. you get what you get. you get what you take. so joe biden might be able to make a difference no matter what people perceive to be his mandate or otherwise. >> i think that's so true and that's such a good point, john. i do think that remembering those times that we are in a much more divided and polarized

america, and we've seen that, you know, play out just in terms of the temperature on both sides, that, you know, i think it will be hard going forward for joe biden not -- he is a person who has spent his career, you know, trying to make deals, working across the aisle, putting bipartisanship at the center of his persona and agenda, but you have a lot of republicans around the country who are going to look at these margins and think that, you know, they still are beholden to some extent to donald trump's popularity around the country. and i think that will make it very hard for biden to move forward and bring some of those people along. we already saw brad parscale, for example, on twitter when the president was wanting more republicans to come out and defend him and say, you know, anybody who wants to win in 2024, now's the time to speak up. i think we will see trump world

continue to try to keep republicans sort of under their control with those kinds of threats, john. >> errol, what do you think about that? joe biden seems to be built for this moment in terms of he has a history of compromise, sometimes to his detriment or sometimes he's taken hits for that. so what do you think about how he plans to move forward? >> look. he's built for this moment, but this moment is not going to last, right? we're only 24 months away from the midterms, alisyn, and he's going to have to deliver for the industrial midwest. if there's a biden administration, they're going to have to deliver. they're going to have to come through with jobs, with hope, with economic recovery for states that are the worst hit in some cases like wisconsin by the coronavirus pandemic. he's going to have to really produce, and he's going to have to do it quickly. there's going to be a partisan wrangling, there's going to be enormous fights. there is going to be a showdown in the midterms a short two

years from now, and then there will be time to start talking about the re-elect. he's got his hands full. the states that are decreed to be a victory, it's going to be very important, but for sure pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan, he's going to have to really -- these are essentially blue wall/swing states at this point, right? if you look at the numbers, the fact that it's so close this time means that it is by no means a sure thing that these economically distressed areas are going to simply support democrats indefinitely. so he's going to have to hit the ground running really. there's not going to be too much time, i think, for the healing he talks about before he has to get down to brass tacks and start delivering to the people who gave him this victory. >> i'm sure that's not going to be hard for lunch pail joe. it comes naturally to him.

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let's take a look. in pennsylvania, with 20 electoral votes up for grabs, enough if joe biden gets it, he leads. there are tens of thousands, potentially 100,000 or more votes left to count, most of them coming from largely democratic areas. it's quite likely he will add to his vote total throughout the morning. in the tastate of georgia, 16 electoral votes up for grabs. it's razor thin. it's important to note that joe biden grew his lead from 4,000 to 7,000 overnight. there will be a recount there no matter what. still, joe biden's lead is growing. let's go over to kristen holmes at the voting desk to get what the rules are surrounding recounts. kristen. >> i want to say something before we get into the rules here, which is in the history of the united states, it's very rare that a recount flips in an

election. usually you see something like a single digit number of votes, maybe a couple of hundred. but the idea there would be thousands and thousands of votes that would change an elect would be very, very, very, if not completely not possible burke very slim. let's start with the rules in pennsylvania because we're still within that margin. there is an automatic threshold which we're still in of 45% or less. biden is ahead by 29,000ish votes. so 20%. they're counting the vouts out of allegheny county, pittsburgh, and philadelphia. right now for the sake of argument, we we know this would be a big recount. georgia says they're going to have a recount. there is no automatic recount. candidates can request one if the margin of victory is 0.5% or

less. we go to the margin. biden is ahead by 7,238 votes, 0.1%. within the recount. in georgia, the last time there was no change at all in the actual winner. something to keep in mind. john? >> it's so important. recounts tend to change dozens of votes, hundreds of votes on the outside, but i can't think of a time where they changed thousands of votes. terrific work. thanks so much for being with us. as of this morning there are less than 20,000 votes left to counts in georgia. nick valencia is standing by in atlanta. nick, can we expect the results today? >> well, i would love to be able to tell you that answer, but it's another we'll see this morning. today those 20,000 overseas provisional military ballots they're expected to get through and overnight there was some potentially significant developments as fulton county here in metro atlanta got

through 5,000 provsional ballots giving joe biden a lead over president trump. yesterday in gwinnett county, they attempted to get through provsional ballots but they had a problem with the vote machines. they'll try again today. rb they may not all reflect in the overall tally. there could also be a hand joer of the senate if they get them in their favor. there's no question, georgia will be the center of the eun fers for at least two months. that runoff is scheduled for january 5th. alisyn? >> thank you very much. president trump and his aides have been conspicuously quiet for the past 24 hours.

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joe biden is leading this morning in the final four battleground states. how is fox framing the results? let's take a look at some of fox's coverage over the past couple of days. >> it seems inevitable in this initial vote count that joe biden is going to win. >> the trump campaign has said that they wanted to have their poll watchers there and that -- i guess they're being asked to provide evidence for something they say they weren't even able to participate in or be able to see, and so that's, i think, where they would say that needs to be rectified, if it could be.

>> that's not true. it's not true. it's just not true. the election poll watchers, they're called canvass watchers, republicans have been in this room, in that room where they're supposed to be, standing alo alongside with the democrats. >> when they are talking the fraud issue and they're talking, you know, irregularities, illegalities, what specifically are they referring to? >> neil, i think you're right on target. you don't see any examples of where was the irregularity. >> at this point, the president needs to win at least three recounts to even get to 270 or maybe tie it as 269. it's a really tough uphill battle. >> to all you patriots who supported president trump, stand tall and be proud of your efforts and his. it was all worth it. we all helped reshape the national conversation on china, on immigration, on trade, and

political correctness, et cetera, et cetera. we don't have time to bury our heads in crying towels. >> let's bring in cnn chief meteorologist brian salter. brian, wasn't that interesting to see the real reporters, eric, steve, have to shoot down the hosts by saying that's not true, that's simply not true. they're on the ground. they're doing the real reporting. but you can see the kind of, you know, schizophrenic take on what's happening over there. >> i think this is a giant tug-of-war, and it's so important because president trump is watching this happen. he's watching tv all day, and tens of millions of american voters have their minds influenced by the coverage on fox. fox is in the middle of a giant tug-of-war right now. one minute sean hannity is shouting about voter fraud and the next minute laura ingraham is talking about the trump

administration in the past tense. some are pushing back at these ridiculous voter fraud claims. others have been letting it slide on air. i do think on friday we started to see a tone shift at fox. there was more skepticism. and i think laura ingraham's talk last night about conceding with grace, that was hugely significant. that was a message directly through the camera to the president. i know it's wild, but we're in a world where the stars at fox try to communicate to the president on camera and also in print. "the wall street journal" owned by rupert murdoch is sending the same message right now. >> look. i think it's interesting what fox and the murdoorurdoch empir thinks, but it's up to the voters. i will also tell you, brian, i think the white house knows which way the voters are leaning right now, how this is going.

why? because they've disappeared. we haven't seen anybody really from inside the white house for more than 24 hours. why do you think that is? >> i call it a tug-of-war. i think a tug-of-war is happening in the white house as well. think about the end of a football game or any sporting event. sometimes the last minute is the most important, sometimes the last minute is the only minute you remember, and i think these white house staffers are wondering, how am i going to be remembered? how is this president going to be remembered? that's been the rhetoric on fox. how is the presidency going to be remembered. yesterday some fox members were told to stay away from president-elect after biden crosses the 270 mark. there was internal angst about that idea, backlash, and anchors on fox started to in hypothetical conversations refer to biden as president-elect. this hypothetical is happening at fox and the white house. it's understandable that some staffers don't want to be caught up in the president's lies on twitter, his lies about voter fraud. by the way, he has been labeled

on twitter many, many times this week for bogus lies. we've never seen that before. these platforms, networks are taking a stand right now. >> brian stelter, please keep us posted. obviously the voters will have their say, and as soon as this morning, we might know who the president-elect might be, and the one place who might decide it soonest, pennsylvania. one region, al guyny county, we're expecting thousands of votes from there soon. up next we'll speak to a key official from there to find out how much vote there is remaining and when they'll provide it. stick around.

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