this, though, anderson. you tell people something is 90% effective and the metrics change in terms of how they evaluate it. they say, look, there's risk reward. a lot of reward here. >> sanjay, thank you. good information. coming up, chris cuomo on "prime time." chris? >> welcome to "prime time." president-elect biden once warned that trump would become morei irrational when the walls closed in. he was right. you should be outraged and not just at trump doing what he does worst, but all the republicans motivating the madness, like this guy. >> senator, have you congratulated vice president biden yet? >> no. >> why not? >> because i'm not.

>> remember him and all those who stand by and watch the trumpery, firing the head of operation warp speed, the secretary of defense, and now two main pentagon officials? and replaced by who? not just loyalists, but radioactive righties like retired brigadier general anthony peta who was previously nominated for defense policy, only to be removed for, among other things, calling president obama a terrorist leader. also, remember what secretary of state mike pompeo just said about this transition. >> there will be a smooth transition to a second trump administration. >> his defender said, oh, he was just joking. he was asked point blank if he was serious tonight over on state tv. what do you think he said? he didn't say he was joking. they think they're going to get

by with this, and once biden is in they'll go back to being principled conservatives who just worry about the constitution. enough! your outrage cannot end at the polls. never forget their perfity. we know why it's going on. mitch mcconnell, you know what he's doing. he's making the play to get that base to vote in the georgia special elections. he can't do anything that's anti-trump before that. he's afraid he'll lose those special elections and the senate. and how about these others? rubio, cruz, graham. what do you think? they want to run in 2024. they want to be the next trump. they want his base to love them. it will never happen. in contrast, president-elect biden is already playing the game of being measured, all right? no wonder that a record number of people voted for him. he was ahead as the loser at last count with 45 million votes, a spanking. and this message is why.

>> we are beginning the transition. we're well underway. and the ability for the administration in any way by failure to recognize our win does not change the dynamic at all in what we're able to do. >> reporter: what do you say to the americans who are anxious over the fact that president trump has yet to concede and what that might mean for the country? >> well, i just think it's an embarrassment, quite frankly. the only thing that -- how can i say this tactfully -- i think it will not help the president's legacy. >> now, look, on the one hand, i get it. keep that same energy, mr. president-elect. in like four days he's done more to be reassuring to this country than the other guy did in four years. i gotcha. and good news for biden supporters and frankly for the country, he continues to gain

ground in the voting. take a look at why this election should be over. wisconsin, biden is up by more than 24,000 votes. pennsylvania up by more than 46,000 votes. what about ruby red georgia? biden up by more than 12,000 votes, all right? another red state, arizona, biden leads by more than 14,000 votes. that one is a little close. got to watch it. nevada, he leads by more than 36,000 votes. michigan, he's up by more than 148,000 votes, and yet today, the trump campaign didn't just say it's going to file suit in michigan, didn't offer you any proof, only a conclusion. we're filing suit, we won't tell you on what, but we are telling you he'll be declared the winner of this election. based on what? keep saying that to yourself. nothing other than this caustic chorus of republican can't

cronies who will do anything to destroy a peaceful transition in a democracy? remember, for trump to be right, mail-in ballots would have had to be manipulated by democrats and republicans alike in several different states coordinated for months. and the ballots would have to be fixed to steal votes from trump but only trump. because the same ballots gave advantage to a lot of senate candidates. and candidates for congress and candidates for state legislature for republicans. so they coordinated with both parties to go after trump and beat him but give the senate, in all likelihood, to the republicans? look, it doesn't make any sense and that's why they have no proof of the same. remember what they are trying to pull. these are the people many of you supported when they said the democrats shouldn't question the

2018 results, right? where is the proof? you can't just complain. that's being a sore loser, remember that? remember during the impeachment? we need proof. why are we having hearings, we haven't even seen the proof yet. what's happening? remember this. >> these house democrats decided due process is too much work. they would rather impeach with no proof. >> this is as clear as it gets, but these guys want to keep stirring it up based on no direct evidence whatsoever. >> presumption has now become the standard instead of proof. it should cause anyone to begin to question because the entire case is built on a presumption. >> you can have all the smoke in the world, but if you're going to impeach a president and you're going to convict him, you actually have to have the direct proof, and they haven't done it. >> where is reince now? where is collins now? he got laughed out of a race. where are the other guys now?

mr. ohio? mr. kentucky? where are you now? why aren't you standing up right now for your constituents and this country? why not? we need no proof of their perfity other than their own words. check out state tv. >> first of all, the democrats always call it unfair when they lose so that's first and foremost. we need to understand this is becoming a pattern with the democratic party. >> it's becoming refusal to accept the legitimacy of elections when you don't like the outcome. we keep hearing about deleg delegitimation of our elections. that causes a real problem. >> democracy rests on elections that are meaningful and accepted. you can't after the ninth inning play or the game is over and one team wins, say, we unilaterally decided we're going into extra innings and we're counting the runs differently.

>> one big thing democrats have to decide is will they become a party that will accept the results of an election? >> no shame in their game. but you must remember also, i must remember, kudos to trevor noah and "the daily show" theme, the drastic balderdash they're putting there. and it makes sense that "the daly show" puts that up. four years ago today, that's vice president biden, and do you know who is with him? vice president pence. doesn't seem comfortable being touched. this is what it's supposed to look like, helping to foster a smooth transition. also four years ago today, president-elect trump himself being extended the courtesy by someone who he said wasn't even born in this country, acknowledgment for his victory,

obama helping with a smooth transition to his presidency. listen. >> my number one priority in the coming two months is to try to facilitate a transition that ensures our president-elect is successful. we now are going to -- want to do everything we can to help you succeed, because if you succeed, then the country succeeds. >> that from a president and now we're hearing from trump who is no president, he's did i dsside best, and a revenant, a dead man halting the halls of crisis. what do we do about it? you have to keep that energy up, too. you have to be outraged by this. if this dead man walking and his zombie pals in congress are looking to make this transition into a complete horror show, the only thing that's going to stop

them is the outrage of what they know just bit them in the behind in the polls, you, coming out in an outrage they didn't expect. let's talk about what is happening and what can be done. david axelrod and david gregory. gentlemen, thank you. first we deal with what can be done. let's start on the progressive side first. ax, what does biden and his people do in ta situation like this? >> i kind of think, chris, they're doing what they're doing which is keep moving forward with their transition and let the process run. they're going to run out of runway on the other side here. these cases are going to fail, these lawsuits are going to fail, the counts are going to become official, and joe biden is going to be president of the united states. the problem is that in the process, they are trying to deleg delegitimate him. 70% of republicans said it

wasn't a fair election, 78% said mail ballots led to widespread fraud. they are buying the story line of the president. so i think joe biden is, you know, on track here. he's going to be the president, but he's going to be a president who is looked on with suspicion by large numbers of americans because his predecessor engineered it that way, set the circumstances up for that to be the case, and then you have the other issue of the transition itself. biden is on track. he's doing what he needs to do, but despite what he says, you know, it is beneficial to have landing teams at the agencies, to be briefed up, to have a connection between your teams as he did, as president obama did when president bush handed him the reins, and that is going to set him back a little. >> boy, i tell you, just the heart and head moment here, david. we had over 61,000 hospitalizations today, november 10th. we've never seen anything like

it. this is when you play this game? this is when you do this? so, then, david, what is the obvious reason? why would the republicans be in line with this sellout move? >> you outlined it off the top. they're giving president trump room because he still has a death grip on the grassroots of the republican party. he's not going away. one way or another, he's going to be a political force, and those who care about senate control of the republican party, who are looking ahead to 2024, they still fear donald trump. he'll have a lot of sway. so i'm sure the thinking is, why push him? everything that trump is doing is completely in character with everything we've seen from him since he announced his run for the presidency. so there is nothing particularly surprising. so i think republicans don't see an advantage in calling him out and pushing him.

give him a little bit more runway, the courts will ultimately take care of it by denying all these lawsuits. others who have made claims are now recanting -- >> and they think 75 million people that just came out to reject trump won't remember what they're doing right now with people like me and you reminding them every five minutes? >> chris, remember, the flip side of that poll that ax just cited is how many democrats have thought trump was illegitimate? this is the problem. we're living in an age that goes back now a generation where roughly half the country thinks the other side's president can't act accordingly. >> they don't think he won the election. hillary capitulated that night. >> right, but a lot of democrats didn't. what's important is she did, so i'm greagreeing with you. what's important is trump hasn't and people will follow his lead.

that's what matters. four years ago today, president obama welcomed president trump. he was shocked. he didn't want to be in that position, but there it was. that's what's so unbecoming and dangerous for the country. >> ax, did obama -- was it hard for him to go and sit with trump, after all people, pushing that birther thing, crushing him to the end? can't tell in his demeanor, but obama was a tough read, you know. >> i think it was hard for him, but he, like president bush before him, look, we were tough on george w. bush in our campaign in 2008, and yet he could not have been more cooperative, more helpful, more cordial in every single way during the transition of 2008. not because he loved everything that we said, but because he thought it was his duty as a trustee of the democracy to hand over the reins in good shape and give the next president a chance to get a good start.

and that's what president obama thought in 2016. and that is what is not happening now, because donald trump is just moving his showdown the street. he's going to be dogging joe biden every single day. he wants to create that sense that this whole thing is -- >> ax, he got rid of the secretary of defense who is fundamentally operation warp speed. he just got rid of two other pentagon officials and is trying to put in peta, of all people. he's telling the agencies to prepare for a budget. what does this smell like to you? >> i understand. i understand what it smells like. i have faith in the institutions of our democracy, and i think at the end of the day, all of this will, you know, lead to where the voters said it will lead to. but, chris, the point you make, there is a different point here which is an awful lot of damage can be done in the next two

months by a president even on his way out the door. and the firings that we've seen are appalling and they're alarming. and, you know, i sense that they're just the beginning, which is a great concern. >> i got you. d. greg, back to you. >> you just mentioned the virus. i was talking to a friend of mine in the chicago area who said the hospitalizations are risking overrunning their hospitals, there's not enough nurses, that it's going to be much worse than the spring, and the trump administration deserves credit for warp speed and the progress on a vaccine. but we're losing ground now because he's hunkering down in a corner because he made a decision not to allow his own voters to get mail-in ballots. you know, he's embarrassed, and now he's taking the country through this when there is some real work that has to be done in a transition. >> imagine what happens two months from now if we haven't figured out how to retool our efforts against this pandemic. it is eating us alive.

ax, david, thank you, fellows. appreciate you. on the one hand you have biden. i guess he's doing this the only way you can, right? he's being presidential, he's trying to reassure all of you that this will be fine. but i'm telling you, you got to be worried about what's happening with all this trumpery, okay? they are undermining democracy. it's not enough to say, well, he has every right to question the election. not without basis. so what can the democrats do? let's turn to a biden confidant who is watching things very closely, and who knows how ugly it can get and how quickly it can get that way. representative james clyburn. let's get some wide eyes on this, next.

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how do you expect to work with republicans if they won't even acknowledge you as president-elect? >> they will. they will. >> i respect it on one hand,

okay, the optimism. but on the other hand, don't you get that fear that the democrats might get done dirty here? why? political divisions are only deepening. i'm not saying they have a case, but this clearly isn't about legitimate administration of justice or our election, this is a weird plague going on here. only four peers have done anything but kowtow to crazytown. we've had more cases of covid than ever before. here with me now is house majority whip democratic congressman jim clyburn. congressman clyburn, i've leaned on you a lot over the years for prospective moments. this one feels like it could get ugly. are you guys muscling up for some kind of fight if the gop continues bowing to trump? >> thank you very much for having me, chris.

i do believe that we are in for some rough sledding, but i don't think it's going to get any more ugly than it already has been. i think that you'll see very soon more and more republicans coming to the realization that this country is much more important than any one person. what is happening now is one person who felt that he was above the constitution of the country, that he was more important, that any one pers-- person in his party, and i would think there would be more and more people in the republican party coming forward to say enough is enough. we do know that trump's base, as he calls it, may be more than just 35 or 40 people that just

vote. when it comes down to the republican party, the republican party is a big part of what makes this country go. and those people who really work to make this country go are not going to stand idly by and watch it cave in. and i do believe there will be some telephone calls very soon saying to a lot of my friends on the republican side, we've gone far enough now. it's time for us to rein things in and get this country moving again. i think joe biden knows a little bit about what he's talking about here. remember, delaware is where so many of these countries established. that that's been where a lot of companies -- >> oh, companies. you lost me there for a second. so you're saying there is going to be some private sector push telling republican lawmakers, where does that optimism come

from? these guys play by different rules, and with all due respect, congressman, often to better effect than your party does. they are on one page. no proof, no worries. no shame in their game. that doesn't bother you at all? >> yes, it does. and you're right about that. my party has been much more respectful of tradition, much more respective of constitutional principles. that's why you saw al gore. nobody should have been upset more than al gore back in 2000. 527 votes, yet he still took the high road. you saw hillary clinton taking the high road. and so my party has always done that. and i just had a friend of mine say to me just yesterday, i'm now beginning to see what you've been trying to tell me about the hypocrisy among these republicans. this is a guy who thought of

himself as being a republican and always gave me a hard time for being a democrat. he's now telling me he now sees what i've been telling him. the hypocrisy here is so great. i think more and more people are going to see it and say, they're more about themselves than they are about preserving the integrity of this democracy. this country is an experiment, and we have been trying to reconcile the differences. it's fundamental to the country's existence. 401 years ago we had -- blacks were brought into this country. and we have wrestled with a race issue ever since. and we are really at the edge of real catastrophic consequences if we do not stop this foolishness. bring this country back together, let's get this economy

going again, let's get our kids back in school, let's get people back to work, let's get health restored into the american people. we cannot do this following the dictates of any one person. we have to do it as a collective here in this country. >> i hear you, but they have a collective on their side, and my question becomes i know you guys are standing by and watching and hoping for the best, but hopefully you're preparing for the worst as well. what if they go to the state legislatures and say, forget about the vote. we don't trust it, right? pick your own electors. state legislatures can do that in a bunch of the states. >> yes, they can do that. but i don't think they can do that to the tune of 270. there is no question about that. some of them may accommodate them. but i don't believe that in the state of new york, for instance -- >> it's not happening in new york. i'm talking about like in

wisconsin or in georgia or in arizona. it's not happening in new york. new york is not your problem. >> no. >> you got the love gov over there. i'm talking about in these other states. what if they go bad on the vote? >> i don't think that's going to be a problem, either. i don't think that will be a problem in pennsylvania. they may attempt to do that in pennsylvania, but the constitution is clear. and i know it gives the legislatures the authority to elect electors as they would have them be. but if you got all the electors, i don't believe you're going to go to wisconsin and pennsylvania and get them to elect republican electors when the democrat won. i just don't think you're going to have that. it may happen, and then i've been telling people for a long time now, i'm beginning to see what happened in germany back in the 1930s. i never thought that could happen in this country. how do you elect a person president, then all of a sudden give him the authority to be

dictator? that's what we are teetering on here. that's what hitler did in germany. he was elected chancellor, and then because he successfully discredited the news media, he took over the churches. i don't see that happening here. it may happen, but if it did that means the american people are much more -- less, i should say, intelligent than i think they are. >> boy, this is some heavy -- these are some heavy days. congressman, every time we say it can't get any crazier than this, i have so many welts on my tongue from biting it after saying those things. you know, i joke just so i keep from crying. these are hard days, and i hope your party is ready to fight for the democracy and find ways to make these republicans come to their senses. i know they're afraid of the base but they have to value something more at some point.

congressman clyburn, thank you for your perspective on this and your efforts going forward. >> thank you very much for having me. >> god bless. america's first counterterrorist is richard clark. we bought him in why? because this isn't just politics. which side is going to win? on one level. but the most hospitalizations ever from covid today. two months of this, then where are we? biden not getting briefed on national security? the world on fire half the time? what matters? what can happen with this white house blocking the next president from the critical intel and assets that he needs. somebody who knows that answer, next. we're excited to do business with you but before we sign i gotta ask... sure, anything. we searched you online

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look, we know covid is a crisis. just today we had over 60,000

hospitalizations. that is most of any single day that we've had. but what about the threats that aren't public, that a president-elect needs to know about? why raise this? well, we've lived it to great disadvantage. it's part of our 9/11 legacy. do you remember what the commission found about the impact of a transition delay in the bush administration? richard clarke does. he lived it as president bush's counterterrorism czar. it's good to see you, friend. >> good to be with you, chris. >> the finding of the commission was that the delay in transition because of the litigation made a material difference in the preparedness of the administration for the threat of terror. >> yeah, i know that was their conclusion. i'm not sure it's true, because that transition, the clinton counterterrorism team in the white house, all of it stayed on

into the bush administration. so the expertise continued. that's not always the case. i've been through three transitions, twice in the white house and once on the transition team, and things happen during transition times. the world doesn't stop. george bush invaded somalia after he lost his bid for re-election, and he left that steaming pile for bill clinton. so you don't know what's going to happen. the world continues on. there are people out there who may want to take advantage of what they think is chaos in the u.s. iran might, north korea might, even russia and china might. >> what they think is chaos, you say. if you were designing a course, could you come up with an uglier set of circumstances short of complete chaos than what we're dealing with right now? >> well, yeah.

i remember 2000, and we didn't know who the president was until december 13th. so that was pretty chaotic as well. >> but you knew what the case was, you knew about the machines. it was finite. the recounts were a nightmare. i think about a quarter inch of my hairline went during that period. this is based on nothing. you're a brilliant writer. you couldn't come up with a plot like this, democrats and republicans manipulating ballot but only to rob the president but only allow the president's down ballot to win? look at all the gop-ers lining up behind him. >> for now. everyone in washington knows this is going to come out and the republicans are just humoring him. he'll still be a potent force even when he leaves office. chris, ask yourself what happens if somebody wants to settle a score during this period. what if, for example, iran, which is still wanting to settle the score for when trump killed

general soleimani? what if they tried to settle that score in the next 70 days and what if trump responds in a big way militarily and he ends up leaving a war going on with iran as his gift to biden? that's not inconceivable. what if north korea decides to do something? what if china or russia -- what if russia makes moves in ukraine during this period and trump doesn't respond, and then biden has to come in and the first thing he has to deal with, instead of the virus, instead of the economy, is some armed conflict overseas? that could happen. >> in terms of the what-ifs, what is the most likely burden that any substantial delay would put on this next president? >> well, it depends on what this

president does during the next 70 days. the biden team, including the former vice president, their pros. they know more about national security than any group ever coming into the white house. they don't need a lot of transition time. they're already doing it without the help of the white house. yeah, they're not getting the intelligence briefings, but you've got to believe, chris, there are people in the intelligence community who would tell them something if there was something important for them to know. >> all right, i'll accept that. but just on the pandemic alone, 70 days of the continued path with the rate of escalation of the virus could put us in a real catastrophic situation as he comes in where he doesn't have any really good choices. >> yeah. so there are things that require the president to act, and there are things that the government handles by itself beneath him. the pandemic, probably at this point, requires presidential

leadership, and we're not going to get that. he isn't doing any work. you look at his schedule. he's just watching you and other people all day long. he's not doing any work. he's not running the government. you know, i've worked for three presidents who worked up until noon on january 20th. they were on the job. this guy hasn't been on the job for weeks. >> richard clarke, you made us feel a little bit better, that maybe there is enough going on at different levels that we should be okay. but certainly this doesn't help. but your perspective always does, so thank you, my friend, for being on the show. >> thank you, chris. so let's get a little bit more practical perspective on this. rich was great, but i'm saying from someone who ran the general services administration. that's this new acronym you've been introduced to, the gsa, that refused to sign off on biden's transition. what does this mean? denise turner roth used to run the gsa. thank you very much for joining

us. >> thank you, chris. it's good to be with you. >> so some people have tried to assuage any fear. don't worry, there are lots of levels of government. this doesn't really matter. it kind of feels like it matters. should we be worried that the gsa hasn't signed off on the transition? >> well, it certainly is an important moment in terms of the history and transfer of government. gsa by law is responsible for the transition of government, and when we talk about the sides of government, remember, we're talking about, you know, 4 million employees including military, about 100 agencies in the running of those operations and the transition of leadership is very dependent on the transition process. i think one of the key aspects here is when do we ensure that the incoming president and that team has an understanding of the

current operations and is able to take over day one. i think that's the biggest risk and challenge at this point. >> so what if you have a bunch of pros come in with you, and everybody has been in washington or even the white house before? what inconveniences does this still pose? >> certainly the biden transition team has a stalwart group of people that are very much informed and prepared. i think that the part that i would think about is in terms of what has been happening at the agencies currently? what work has been underway, what policies and decisions have been made, what's on deck? you want them to be able to pick up on january 20th without hesitati hesitation, and the time they have to take to transition about what is occurring and what's going to happen next is time lost and you don't want them to have to reinvent the wheel. certainly we're at an important moment with the coronavirus and how that's playing out. i think obviously there has been a strong team assembled with the

biden campaign, but their ability to understand what's happening today, what efforts are currently in place, what we know and what we don't know, all those things are hindered by not having the transition take place. >> there have been some odd things that have happened under the gsa with this president, but we'll leave the politics of that aside. have you ever heard of a gsa not signing off on a transition before? >> certainly we had this moment in 2000. with the presidential transition at that time, there have been concerns, and i think that you all have reported about that. certainly they're finding the 9/11 commissions pointed to the lateness and lack of transition having had an impact on the administration not being as prepared as they could have been. that is an unfortunate aspect. but they poi point to that overs when that delay occurred, it does have an ongoing follow-on impact that can happen. >> right.

richard clarke doesn't completely agree that it had a negative effect, but certainly the commission thought enough of it to put it in. denise turner roth, thank you for giving us some context and understanding as to why this matters, it's not just some bureaucratic checkmark on a list of to-do things. appreciate you very much and appreciate your service to the country. >> thank you. good to be with you. again, i keep coming back to covid because covid is everything for us. economy, our kids, our livelihoods, our emotions, right, our well-being. shattering a record for hospitalizations. now there is a new study that i have to tell you about. i don't want to tell you about it, we worked hard to make sure i had to tell you about it, but this long haul thing is getting worse. and it's getting more insidious. it's getting more sneaky. it's man teifesting itself in w that people may not see. it's not just their body, it's their mind. we'll have to bring in the chief doctor on this to talk about new guidance from the cdc that seems

like it should have come out months ago, and this study about long haulers and mental health that is not going to make a lot of people happy in this country tonight, next.

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we have two sad pieces about coronavirus, but they're very important. first i think proof of trump effect. he loses and right after the cdc comes out with guidance to wear masks that he never allowed to give. so we'll go through that. but also we have these daily infections as well as hospitalizations are at an all-time high. what does that mean for us? then we have this study about mental illness and long haul covid symptoms. let's bring in the chief dr. sanjay gupta. sanj, thank you very much for joining us. do you agree that he didn't put this guidance out, which is totally obvious that you wear a

mask not just for the people around you but for yourself, and that if we increase mask use by 15%, it could have huge economic, you >> i think you are right. seems like we have known this a long time. this is coming out pretty late. we have always been hamstrung by this because we said according to the cdc the masks are primarily serving as source control, meaning they are at the source of the person that is wearing it. they are protecting the people around them by wearing the mask. that's the source control. you know, the idea that it helps to protect the wearer, is like common sense. but the cdc shied away from saying that. they say now based on plenty of evidence, looking at communities of people that wear masks, looking at the experiment and how the virus travels they are ready to conclude there is a

benefit to the wearer and the people around the wearer. again, i think we have known it for a while. why it wasn't out there, i don't know, chris. i will say that the organizations have seem more emboldened to say things they haven't been saying for a while. we are hearing people being more emboldened to say things they have been thinking and to see the guidance reflecting that. they said you can save a trillion dollars for the economy with 15% increased mask usage around the country. you are not used to seeing that guidance in a cdc document, but there it is. >> you have been making the point. i know anthony fauci made the point that even with a vaccine you can't do the other. it will take too long to get the type of protection that the vaccine can give no matter how good the efficacy if we are not maintaining the other measures. then we had this study that came out. too many people that get covid,

even with mild symptoms, sometime later start getting diagnosed with freaky stuff, whether it is hypertension, blood clots, brain fog is translating into depression and anxiety and other things. what does the study say that pops out to you? >> yeah. i have to tell you. you are my friend. every time i hear about the long haul studies i think of you and what you are doing. it is a big study. 62,000 coronavirus patients, people diagnosed with the disease. and we tried to figure out what were the other long haul symptoms. one were psychiatric symptoms. what they found was extraordinary. 1 in 5, 18% of people within three months of the diagnosis did have psychiatric diagnosis

from anxiety disorders to insomnia, depression and early onset dimensia. even the flu, 13% of the people recovering from the flu are diagnosed with something. it does not mean it is persistent. it is only 90 days. long hauling is an arbitrary timeline. we know symptoms linger. it does not seem to be correlated to the initial symptoms. i thought the sicker that you were in the first place, the more likely that it was to linger. that is not the case. >> i am going to put this out there for two reasons. you do not want to get the virus, even if it is asymptomatic. no guarantee. if you are young, no guarantee nothing happens. there are so many people out there with no doctor, nobody

understands the long haul or even coronavirus. they are either told you will be fine or they are not give the treatment. we need the studies to come out so people can get some help. it keeps getting worse. that is why we need you, dr. gupta. you keep us on the straight and the real. i thank you for it. >> any time, brother. >> i had problems in my headlong before covid. we will be right back. your journey requires liberty mutual.

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all right. thank you very much for watching. it is my favorite time of the night. cnn with d-lemon starts right now. look at that. 45 seconds early. >> whoa! >> a few times i have been late in giving don the show. that is not respectful. last night it was okay. >> last night it was fine. >> i love talking to you, more the better. >> how are you doing? >> i am not feeling this optimism that -- look, i am no

one to disrespect him. he has been through the wars on capitol hill. i see the democrats sitting back and waiting for cooler heads to prevail. since when? they are making something up. for republicans to be right, republicans and democrats s st an election in different states where only he got screwed but the republicans down ballot won? come on, man. >> you know. >> all of the other republicans. >> integrity. >> that is scary stuff. the record set of hospitalizations with covid. we will have 70 days. >> hey, chris, it is called hypocrisy. look at the last election when everybody said you have to have integrity. integrity in an election, won fair and square. there was no russian