>> sanjay, appreciate it. thank you. good information. let's hand it over to chris for "cuomo prime time." >> i'm chris cuomo and welcome to "prime time." president-elect biden once warned trump would become even more irrational when the walls closed in. he was right and then some. but the real problem, your real focus for your outrage, and you should be outraged, isn't just trump doing what he does worst but all the republicans motivating the madness like this guy. >> senator, have you congratulated vice president biden yet? >> no. >> why not? >> senator johnson, i'm just a businessman trying to get things done. boy did he learn the game fast. remember him and all those who stand by and watch the trump ri firing the head of operation warp speed, the secretary of

defense and now two main pentagon officials. and replaced by who? not just loyalists but radioactive righties like retired brigadier general anthony pay at that only to be removed for, among other things, calling president obama a terrorist leader. also remember what secretary of state mike pompeo just said about this transition. >> there will be a smooth transition to a second trump administration. >> his defenders said, oh, he was just joking. he was asked point blank if he was serious tonight over on state tv. what do you think he said? he didn't say he was joking. they think they're going to get by with this and that once biden is in they'll go back to being principled conservative who is just worry about the constitution. enough! your outrage cannot end at the

polls. never forget their perfidy. we know where it's going on. mitch mcconnell. you know what he's doing. he's making the play to get that base to vote in the georgia special elections. he can't do anything that's antitrump before that. hooez afraid he'll lose the special elections and the senate. how about these others? rubio, cruz, graham? what do you think? they want to run in 2024. they want to be the next trump. they want his base to love them. it'll never happen in contrast, president-elect biden is already playing the game of being measured, all right? no wonder that a record number of people voted for him. he was ahead of the loser at the last count by over 4.5 million votes, a spanking. and this message is why. >> we are already beginning the transition. we're well underway. and the ability for the administration in any way by failure to recognize our win

does not change the dynamic at all and what we're able to do. >> what do you say to the americans that are anxious over the fact that president trump has yet to concede and what that might mean for the country? >> well, i just think it's an embarrassment, quite frankly. the only thing that -- how can i say this tactfully? i think it will not help the president's legacy. >> look, on the one hand, i get it. keep that same energy, mr. president-elect. in like four days he's done more to be reassuring to this country than the other guy did in four years. i got you. good news for biden supporters and frankly for the country. he continues to gain ground in the voting. just take a look at why this election should be over. wisconsin, biden's up by more than 20,000 votes. pennsylvania, up by more than 46,000 votes. what about ruby red georgia, biden up by more than 12,000

votes. all right. another red state, arizona. okay. biden leads by more than 14,000 votes. that one's a little close. got to watch it. nevada, he leads my more than 36,000 votes. michigan, he's up by more than 148,000 votes. and yet today, the trump campaign didn't just say it's going to file suit in michigan, didn't offer you any proof, only a conclusion. we're filing suit. we won't tell you on what, but we are telling you he'll be declared the winner of this election. based on what? keep saying that to yourself. nothing other than this caustic chorus of republican't cronies that will do anything to destroy a peaceful transition in a democracy. again, remember for trump and co to be right, mail-in ballots would have had to be manipulated

by democrats and republicans alike in several different states coordinated for months. and the ballots would have to be fixed to steal votes from trump but only trump because the same ballots gave advantage to a lot of senate candidates and candidates for congress and candidates for state legislature for republicans. so, they coordinated with both parties to go after trump and beat him but give the senate in all likelihood to the republicans? look, it doesn't make any sense, and that's why they have no proof of the same. remember what they are trying to pull. these are the people many of you supported when they said the democrats shouldn't question the 2018 results, right? where's the proof? you can't just complain. that's being a sore loser. remember that? remember during the impeachment, we need proof. why are we having hearings?

we haven't seen the proof yet. what's happening? remember this? >> these house democrats decided due process is too much work. they'd rather impeach with no proof. >> this is as clear as it gets, but these guys want to keep stirring it up based on no direct evidence whatsoever. >> the presumption has now become the standard instead of proof. it should cause anyone to begin to question because the entire case is built on a presumption. >> you can have all the smoke in the world, but if you're going to impeach a president and you're going to convict him, you actually have to have the direct proof and they haven't done it. >> where's reince now? where's collins fou? he got laughed out of a race. where are the other guys now? mr. ohio? mr. kentucky? where are you now? why aren't you standing up right now for your constituents in this country? why not?

we need no proof of their perfidy other than their own words. check out state tv. >> first of all, the democrats always call it unfair when they lose, so, that's first and foremost what we need to understand. this is becoming a pattern with the democratic party. >> it's continuing refusal to accept the legitimacy of elections when you don't like the outcome, we keep hearing all about a tax on democracy, the delegitimization of our elections. not accepting a result just because you don't like it without any eftd of backing up your claims of voter suppression or voter fraud causes problems. >> the entire democracy what rests on elections that are meaningful and accepted. you can't after the ninth is played say i unilaterally decided we're going to go into extra innings and counting the runs differently. >> one of the big things democrats have to decide is will they become the party that will accept the results of an election? >> no shame in their game. but you must remember -- also i

must remember. kudos to trevor noah and the "daily show" team with the classical music with the classic balder dash they're putting there makes a perfect marriage. this is pure comedy. however, it's not funny. we know how it should go. look, today in history, four years ago today, that's vice president biden, and do you know who's with him? vice president-elect pence. doesn't seem comfortable being touched. this is what it's supposed to look like helping to foster a smooth transition. also four years ago today, president-elect trump himself being extended the traditional courtesy by someone he said wasn't even born in this country. acknowledgment of his victory, a pledge from then president obama for help with a smooth transition to his presidency. listen. >> my number one priority in the coming two months is to try to

facilitate a transition that ensures our president-elect is successful. we now are going to want to do everything we can to help you succeed because if you succeed, then the country succeeds. >> that from a president. and now we're hearing from trump, who's no president. he's a dissident at best and a reverent in the main. a dead man haunting the halls of a country in crisis. we get what's going on. the question is what do we do about it? first thing is you've got to keep that energy up too. you've got to be outraged by this because if this dead man walking and his zombie pals in congress are looking to make this transition into a complete horror show, the only thing that's going to stop them is the outrage of what they know just bit them in the behind in the polls, you coming out and being active like they did. let's talk about why this is

happening and what can be done. gentlemen, thank you. first let's deal with what can be done. let's start on the progressive side first. what does biden and his people do in a situation like this? >> i kind of think, chris, they do what they're doing, which is to keep moving forward with their transition and let the process run. i mean, there is going to be -- they're going to run out of runway on the other side here. these cases are going to fail. these lawsuits are going to fail. the counts are going to become official. and joe biden's going to be president of the united states. the problem is that in the process, they are trying to delegitimize him. you know, there's a poll this morning that said 70% of republicans said it wasn't a free and fair election. 78% said that mail ballots lead to widespread fraud. i mean, they are buying the story line of the president.

so, i think joe biden is on track here. he's going to be the president. but he's going a president who is looked on with suspicion by large numbers of americans because his predecessor engineered it that way, set the circumstances up for that to be the case. and then you have the other issue of the transition itself. biden is on track, he's doing what he needs to do. but despite what he says, you know, it is beneficial to have landing teams at the agencies to be briefed up, to have a connection between your teams as he did, as president obama did when president bush handed him the reins. and that is going to set him back a little. >> just a heart and head moment. your heart, we have over 61,000 hospitalizations today. november 10th. we've never seen anything like it. and this is when you play this game? this is when you do this? so, then, david, what is the obvious reason? why would the republicans be in line with this sell out move?

>> well, you outlined it off the top. i mean, you know, they're giving president trump room because he still has a death grip on the grass roots of the republican party. he's not going away. one way or the other, he's going to be a political force. and for, you know, those who care about senate control for the republican party or who are looking ahead to 2024, they still fear donald trump. he'll have a lot of sway. so, i'm sure the thinking is, you know, why push him? everything that trump is doing is completely in character with everything we've seen from him since he announced his run for the presidency. so, there's nothing particularly surprising. so, i think republicans don't see an advantage in calling him out and pushing him. give him a little bit more runway. the courts will ultimately take care of it by denying all these lawsuits. others who have made claims are now recanting. there's nothing there.

>> they think that 75 million people that just came out to reject trump won't remember what they're doing right now with people like me and you reminding them? >> remember, the flip side of that poll that ax just cited is how many democrats thought trump was illegitimate. this is the problem. we're living in an age that goes back now a generation where roughly half the country thinks the other side's president -- >> they don't think he didn't win the election. they don't think he didn't win the election. hillary capitulated that night. >> right. but a lot of other republican -- democrats didn't. but what's important is she did. i'm agreeing with you. what's important here is trump hasn't and people will follow his lead. that's what matters. four years ago today, president obama welcomed president trump. he was shocked. he didn't want to be in that position. but there it was. that's what's so unbecoming and

dangerous for the country. >> right. ax, did obama -- was it hard for him to go and sit with trump, of all people, pushing that birther thing, crushing him to the end. can't tell but obama was a tough read. >> yeah, i think it was hard for him, but he, like president bush before him, look, we were tough on george w. bush in our campaign in 2008 and yet he could not have been more cooperative, more helpful, more cordial in every single way during the transition of 2008, not because he loved everything we said but because he thought it was his duty as a trustee of the democracy to hand over the reins in good shape and give the next president a chance to get a good start. that's what president obama thought in 2016. >> right. >> and that is what is not happening now because donald trump is just moving his show

down the street. he's going to be dogging joe biden every single day. he wants to create that sense of -- >> he's not even going down the street, though, ax. he got rid of the secretary of defense who is fundamental to operation warp speed. he just got rid of two other pentagon officials and trying to put in payta of all people. >> yes. >> and he's telling the agencies to prepare for a budget. what does this smell like to you? >> i understand. i understand what it smells like. i do. i have faith in the institutions of our democracy, and i think at the end of the day all of this will lead to where the voters said it will lead to. but, chris, the point you make is there's a different point here which is an awful lot of damage can be done in the next two months by a president even on his way out the door. and the firings that we've seen are appalling and they're alarming. and, you know, i sense that

they're just the beginning. >> right. >> which is a great concern. >> i got you. d. greg, last word to you. >> you also mentioned the virus. i was just talking to a friend of mine in chicago area who said that the hospitalizations are risking overrunning their hospitals. there are not enough nurses. it's going to be much worse in the spring. and the trump administration deserves credit for warp speed and the progress on a vaccine. but we're losing ground now because he's hunkering down in a corner because he made a decision not to allow his own voters to get mail-in ballots. you know, he's embarrassed. and now he's taking the country through this when there's some real work that has to be done in a transition. >> imagine what happens two months from now if we haven't figured out how to retool our efforts against this pandemic. it is eating us alive. ax, david, thank you fellas. appreciate you. >> thanks. all right. on the one hand, you have biden. i guess he's doing this the only way he can.

he's being presidential. he's trying to reassure all of you that this will be fine. but i'm telling you you've got to be worried about what's happening with all this trump ri, okay? they are under mining democracy. it's not enough to say well he has every right to question the election. not without basis. so, what can the democrats do? let's turn to a biden confidant who's watching things very closely. and by the way knows how ugly it can get and how quickly it can get that way. representative james clyburn. let's get some wide eyes on this. next. goodbye cleaning, hello clean. now, braava jet mops right where you need it with an adjustable precision jet spray and an advanced pad system. and offers personalized cleaning suggestions unique to your home. braava jet m6 and the irobot home app.

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how do you expect to work with republicans if they won't even acknowledge you as president-elect. >> they will. they will. >> look, i respect it on one hand, okay, the optimism. but on the other hand, don't you get that fear that the democrats might get done dirty here?

why? political divisions are only deepening. i'm not saying they have a case, but this clearly isn't about clearly legitimate administration of justice or our election. this is a weird play going on here. only four gopers have done anything bout cow down. is this the right move by biden? is there any other move for the democrats? here with me is house majority whip democratic congressman jim clyburn. congressman, i've leaned on you many times over the years for perspective in hard moments. this one feels like it's fixing to get ugly. are you guys muscling up for some kind of fight here if the gop continues bowing to trump? >> well, thank you very much for having me, chris. i do believe that we are in for some rough sledding, but i don't think it's going to be get any more ugly than it already has

been. i think that you'll see very soon more and more republicans coming to the realization that this country is much more important than any one person. what is happening now is one person who felt that he was above the constitution of the country, that he was more important than any one person in this party. and i think that there would be more and more people in the republican party coming forward to say enough is enough. we do know that although trump's base, as he calls it, may be around 30% of the people who just vote, when it comes down to the republican party, the republican party is a big part of what makes this country go. and those people who really work to make this country go are not

going to stand idly by and watch it cave in. and i do believe there will be some telephone calls very soon saying to a lot of my friends on the republican side we've gone far enough now, it's time for us to rein things in and get this country moving again. i think joe biden knows a little bit about what he's talking about here. remember, delaware is where so many of these countries established. that's been the place, a lot of companies. >> oh, companies. i got you. you lost me there for a second. so, you're saying that there's going to be some private sector push telling republican lawmakers, where's that optimism come from. these guys play by different rules. and with all due presidenrespec congressman, to better effect

than your party does. they're on one page. no proof? no worries. no shame in their game. that doesn't bother you at all? >> yes, it does. and you're right about that. my party has been much more respectful of tradition, much more respective of tons constitutional principles. that's why you saw al gore. nobody should have been upset more than al gore back in 2000. 5,027 votes, let me still took the high road. you saw hillary clinton taking the high road. so, my party has always done that. and i just had a friend of mine that said to me just yesterday, i'm now beginning to see what you've been trying to tell me about the hypocrisy among these republicans. this is a guy who thought of himself as being the republican and always giving me a hard time for being a democrat. he's now telling me he now sees what i've been telling him.

the hypocrisy here is so great. so, i think more and more people are going to see it and they're more about themselves than they are about preserving the integrity of this democracy. this country is an experiment, and we have been trying to reconcile the differences. it's fundamental to the country's existence. 401 years ago we had -- blacks were brought into this country. and we have wrestled with the race issue ever since. and we are really at the edge of real catastrophic consequences if we do not stop this foolishness, bring this country back together. let's get this economy going again. let's get our kids back in school. let's get people back to work. let's get health restored into the american people. we cannot do this following the

dictates of any one person. we've got to do it as a collective here in this country. >> i hear you. i hear you. but they have a collective on their side. and my question becomes, i know you guys are standing by and watching and hoping for the best, but hopefully you're preparing for the worst as well. what if they go to the state legislatures and say forget about the vote. we don't trust it. pick your own electors. states can do that in a bunch of the states. >> yes, they can do that. but i don't think they can do that to the ftune of 270. there's no question about that. some of them may accommodate them. but i don't believe that in the state of new york, for instance -- >> it's not happening in new york. i'm talking about like in wisconsin or in georgia or in arizona. it's not happening in new york. new york's not your problem. >> no. >> you've got the love gov over

there. i'm talking about on the other states, what if they go back on it? >> i don't think that's going to be a problem either. they may attempt to do that in pennsylvania, but the constitution is clear. and i know it gives the legislatures the authority to elect electors as you would have them be. but, look, if you've got all the elector, i don't believe you're going to go to wisconsin and pennsylvania and get them to elect republican electors when the democrat won. i just don't think you're going to have that. now, it may happen. and then i've been telling people for a long time now, i'm beginning to see what happened in germany back in the 1930s. i never thought that could happen in this country. how do you elect a person president, then all of a sudden give him the authority to be a dictator? that's what we are teetering on here. that's what hitler did in germany. he was elected chancellor.

and then because he successfully discredited the news media, took over the churches, i cannot see that happening here. it may happen. but if it did, that means that the american people are much more -- less, i should say, intelligent than i think they are. >> boy, this is some heavy -- these are some heavy days, congressman. every time we say, it can't get any crazier than this, i have so many welts on my tongue from biting it after saying those things. i joke just so i keep from crying. these are hard days, and i hope your party is ready to fight for the democracy and find ways to make these republicans come to their accepts. i know they're afraid of the base, but they've got to value something more than that at some point. congressman jim clyburn, thank you for your perspective on this and your efforts going forward. >> thank you very much for having me. >> all right. god bless.

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look, we know covid is a crisis. just today we had over 60,000 hospitalizations.

that is most of any single day that we've had. but what about the threats that aren't public, that a president-elect needs to know about? why raise this? well, we've lived it to great disadvantage. it's part of our 9/11 legacy. you remember what the commission found about the impact of a transition delay in the bush administration? richard clark does. he lived it as president bush's counterterrorism czar. good to see you, friend. >> good to be with you, chris. >> the finding of the commission was that the delay in transition because of the litigation made a material difference in the preparedness of the administration for the threat of terror. >> yeah, i know that was their conclusion. i'm not sure it's true because that transition, the clinton counterterrorism team in the white house, all of it stayed on into the bush administration. so, the expertise continued.

that's not always the case. i've been through three transitions, twice in the white house and once on the transition team. and things happen during transition times. you know, the world doesn't stop. george bush invaded somalia after he lost his bid for re-election, and he left that steaming pile for bill clinton. so, you don't know what's going to happen. the world continues on. there are people out there who may want to take advantage of what they think is chaos in the u.s. iran might. north korea might. even russia and china might. >> what they think is chaos, you say. if you were designing a course, could you come up with an uglier set of circumstances short of complete chaos than what we're dealing with right now? >> well, yeah. i remember 2000 and we didn't know who the president was until december 13th.

so, that was -- that was pretty -- >> but you knew what the case was, richard. you knew what the case was. you knew about the machines. it was finite. the recounts were a nightmare. i think about a quarter inch of my hairline went during that period. but this is based on nothing. i mean, you know, you're a brilliant writer. you couldn't come up with a plot like this, democrats and republicans manipulating ballots but only to rob the president but still allow republicans down ballot to win. what's the chance they've got a shot. look at the gopers lining up behind them. >> for now, for now. i think everybody in washington knows how this is going to come out and the republicans are just humoring him because he's still going to be a potent force even when he leaves office. ask yourself what happens if somebody wants to settle a score during this period. >> yeah. >> what if, for example, iran, which is still, you know, wanting to settle the score for when trump killed general soleimani. whatever they tried to settle

that score in the next 70 days? and what if trump responds in the big way militarily and he ends up leaving a war going on with iran as his gift to biden? that's not inconceivable. what if north korea decides to do something? what if china or russia -- what if russia makes moves in ukraine during this period and trump doesn't respond? and then biden has to come in and the first thing he has to deal with instead of the virus, instead of the economy is some armed conflict overseas. that could happen. >> in terms of the what ifs, what is the most likely burden that any substantial delay would put on this next president? >> well, it depends on what this president does during these next 70 days. the biden team, including the

vice president -- former vice president, they're pros. they know more about national security than any group ever coming into the white house. they don't need a lot of transition time. they're already doing it without the help of the white house. yeah, they're not getting the intelligence briefings, but you've got to believe, chris, that there are people in the intelligence community who would tell them something if there were something for them to know. >> all right. i'll accept that. but just on the pandemic alone, 70 days of the continued path with the rate of escalation of the virus could put us in a real catastrophic situation as he comes in where he doesn't have any really good choices. >> yeah, so there are things that require the president to act, and there are things that the government handles by itself. and the pandemic probably at this point requires presidential leadership, and we're not going to get that. he isn't doing any work. you look at his schedule. he's just watching you and other

people all day long. he's not doing any work. he's not running the government. i worked for three president who is worked up until noon on january 20th. they were on the job. this guy hasn't been on the job for weeks. >> richard clark, you've made us feel a little bit better that maybe -- >> i hope so. >> -- you know, there's enough going on at different levels that we should be okay. but certainly this doesn't help. but your perspective always does. so, thank you my friend for being on the show. >> thank you, chris. >> all right. all right. so, let's get a little bit more practical perspective on this. ri richard's great, but i'm saying from someone who ran the general services administration. that's this new acronym you've been introduced to, the gsa, that refused to sign off on biden's transition. what does this mean? denise turner roth used to run the gsa. thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you, chris. it's good to be with you.

>> so, some people have tried to assuage any fear. don't worry. there are lots of levels of government. this doesn't really matter. kind of feels like it matters. should we be worried that the gsa hasn't signed off on the transition? >> well, it certainly is an important moment in terms of the history and transfer of government. gsa by law is responsible for the transition of government. and when we talk about the sides of government, remember we're talking about, you know, 4 million employees including military, about 100 agencies. and the running of those operations and the transition and leadership to that is very much dependent on the presidential transition process. i think that one of the key aspects here is when do we ensure that the incoming president and that team has an understanding of the current operation and is able to take over day one. i think that's the biggest risk and challenge at this point.

>> so, what if you have a bunch of pros come in with you and everybody's been in washington or even the white house before? what inconveniences does this still pose? >> and certainly the biden transition team has a stallworth group of people that are very much informed and prepared. i think that the part that i would think about is in terms of what has been happening at the agencies currently? what work has been underway? what policies and decisions have been made? what's on deck? you want them to be able to pick up on january 20th without hesitation. and the time they have to take the transition and understand what's been occurring and what's going to happen next is time lost. and you don't want them to reinvent the wheel. and certainly we are at an important moment. we're at an important moment with the coronavirus and how that's playing out. i think obviously there's been a strong team assembled with the biden campaign. but their ability to understand

what's happening today, what efforts are currently in place, what we know and what we don't know, all those things are hindered by not having the transition take place. >> there have been some odd things that have happened with the gsa under this president, but we'll leave the politics to the side. have you ever heard of the gsa not signing off on a transition before? >> i mean, certainly we had this moment in 2000. and with the presidential transition at that time, there have been concerns. and i think that you all have reported about that, certainly the finding of the 9/11 commission's pointed to the relatedness and transmission having impact on the administration not being as prepared as they could have been. that is an unfortunate aspect. but the point to that overall is that when that delay occurred it does have an ongoing impact that can happen. >> right. richard clark doesn't completely agree that it had a negative effect. certainly the commission thought enough of it to put it in.

denise turner roth, thank you for giving us context and understanding to why this matters. it's not just some bureaucratic checkmark on a list of to do things. thank you very much. appreciate you and appreciate your service to the country. >> thank you, good to be with you. >> okay. now, again, i keep coming back to covid because covid is everything for us. economy, our kids, our livelihoods, our emotions, right, our well-being. shattering a record for hospitalizations. now there's a new study that i have to tell you about. i don't want to tell you about. we worked hard to make sure i had to tell you about it. but this long haul thing is getting worse and it's getting more insidious. it's getting more sneaky. it's manifesting itself in ways that people may not see. it's not just their body. it's their mind. with going to bring in the doctor to talk about new guidance that seems like it should have come out months ago and the study about long haulers

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we have two sad pieces of information about coronavirus, but they're very important. first, i think maybe proof of trump effect. he loses and right after the cdc comes out with guidance about wearing masks that he never allowed them to give. so, we'll go through that. but also we have these daily infections as well as hospitalizations are at an all-time high. what does that mean for us? and then we have this study about mental illness and long haul covid symptoms. let's bring in the chief doctor sanjay gupta. sanj thanks for joining me. do you agree with me they didn't put out this guidance that you wear a mask not just for the

people around you but for yourself and if we increase mask use by 15% it could have huge economic positive impact, we've always known this. they just wouldn't say it because of him. is that this leeking at the experiment, how the virus

travels. they're ready to conclude there's a benefit to the wearer and the people around the wearer. so, again, i think we've known this for a while. why it wasn't out there, i don't know, chris. i mean, i will say this. these organizations have seemed more em bold boldened to say things. i've been covering this for eight months. we're hearing people be more emboldened to say things and to see the guidance. the point you made, they say you could save a trillion dollars in the economy in mask usage around the country. you're not used to seeing that sort of guidance in a cdc document, but there it is. it's an important fact as well. >> you've been making the point, i know tony fauci made the point that even with a vaccine you can't not do the other prophylaxis, that it's going to take too long to get the kind of protection a vaccine can give no matter how good its efficacy if we're not maintaining the other measures. then we have this study that came out. you and i knew this was going to

come. too many people who get covid even with mild symptoms sometime later start getting diagnosed with freaky stuff whether it's hypertension or blood clots. hy blood clots, brain fog is now translating into depression and anxiety, and other things. what does this study say that pops out to you? >> yeah, chris, i got to tell you. you're my friend. every time i hear about these long hauler studies and how you're doing. they basically tried to figure out what were some of the oolong hauling symptoms. one of the ones they drilled down were psychiatric symptoms specifically. we can show what they were looking for specifically, but what they found basically was quite extraordinary. about one in five, 18% of people within three months of their

diagnosis, did have some sort of psychiatric diagnosis. it could be from anxiety disorders to insomnia, depression, even on set dementia. now, this is -- you do see these types of correlations with other illnesses. even the flu. 13% of people who recover from flu are also subsequently diagnosed with something. doesn't mean it's persistent, it lasts. that's a limitation of this study as well. it's only 90 days. so we don't know. long hauling is still an arbitrary time line at this point. we know symptoms linger. you and i talked about it doesn't seem to be correlated to the initial severity of symptoms. i thought it would be. i thought the sicker you were in the first place the longer symptoms were to linger. that's not the case. with mild symptoms initially can have lingering symptoms. >> i wanted to put this out there for two reasons. one, you do not want to get this virus. even if it's asymptomatic, even if you're young nothing is going to happen. percentages are on your side.

but there are so many people out there desperately to be heard. no doctor to help them, nobody understand this long haul stuff or even coronavirus really. and they're either told you'll be fine or they're not given the treatment. so we need the studies to come out and give a higher level of recognition so people can get some help. we are no way done with this. in fact, it keeps getting worse. that's why we need you, dr. gupta. you keep us on the straight and keep us on the real. i know, i had problems long before i had covid. we'll be right back. look limu! someone out there needs help customizing

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all right. thank you very much for watching. it's my favorite time of the night. cnn with d. lemon starts right now. >> look at that -- >> 45 seconds early. so, shut up. >> how did you manage that? oh, whoa! >> a few times i have been late, and that is not -- >> like last night? >> that is not respectful. >> it was fine, i was saying it was totally fine. >> i wanted to have the time. i love talking to you. the more the better. >> how are you doing?

>> i'm not feeling this optimism that jim clyburn -- look, i'm no one to disrespect him. he's got incredible perspective. he's been through the wars on capitol hill. i see the democrats kind of sitting back and waiting for cooler heads to prevail. since when? they are making something up out of whole cloth. for trump to be right, republicans and democrats in concerted action, connived to steal an election from him in different states, where on the same ballot only he got screwed. but all the republicans down ballot won? >> they won. >> come on, man. >> well, you know. >> and all these other republicans are like, well -- >> we got an intiger -- integrity of election. >> we're going to have 70 days and waiting for him to get over it? >> hey, chris, it's called hypocrisy. look at the last election. when everyone was saying you have to have integrity.