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of these republican senators will stay silent because they are afraid he will sabotage him. >> i think everybody is just baffled. nobody knows what to say or what to do. this is unprecedented in the history of the public. the president is embarrassing himself. he is embarrassing the country. biden is showing extreme patience and showing extreme calm. luckily he understands america's government well. he is beloved around the world. he can begin the process. i want to say that every time i can, if you believe in america first. that was one of the great slogans. america-first. this is not america-first. this is trump-first, me, myself and i first. republicans who believe in america-first need to be clamoring for at least a fair
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preparatory runway for the biden administration, even if you believe it will be overturned by the supreme court. there is no harm in allowing the potential for a transition to take place. the funds should be released. biden's team should be getting briefed just in case. if you love the country you should say just in case. you don't know what will happen, but you want to be sure that you are prepared. what you have right now is that the president strapped the country on to his kamikaze plane and he wants us to go down with him. that is not america-first. >> former president obama was talking about both transitions that he was part of from george w. bush in 2008 and to the trump presidency in 2016. he writes president bush did all he tocould and president obama perhapsed he would do the same which he did for the incoming trump administration. you know, again, it is an
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example of the pettiness of this president the way he was treated is not how he was treating his predecessor. it is just stunning to me. >> look, i was a part of the obama transition. the worst thing w. did to us. some of them pulled the w's off of the type writers just to tease us. that was the worst they did. the news continues now. i want to hand it over to chris for cuomo primetime. >> thank you as always, anderson. i am chris cuomo and welcome to primetime. i really want you to remember those in congress who say that there are irregularities in voting, but they show no proof. no. this is not about shaming trump supporters. don't fall for that. this is about shaming those that want to keep those from the country coming together. left, right and reasonable. the people in congress are compromising you for their own
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political convenience. in the process they are delaying much-needed help for too many. people are sick and starving in this country and they know it. why are they surerendering the needs of the many for the needs of one? we learned a little more about why tonight. republicans may be so afraid because "mr. trump is talking seriously about announcing that he is planning run again in 2024." whether he actually does it or not, it will field a already crowded field of republican candidates and republicans say it will keep the wide support he showed in defeat and could guarantee a lucrative book deal or speaking fees. sources tell cnn they expect trump to tease a 2024 run when he finally acknowledges the results. the sources expect trump to dismiss the 2020 race as a fraud with no proof and hinting i will be back.
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sure, this may all work out well for him. but the rest of the republicans are submarining your democracy in the process. this is not america-first. this is trump-first and only. you need more proof? just today the cisa, the cyber security and infrastructure security agency, trump's own administration said in a new statement there is no evidence any voting system, deleted or lost votes, changed votes or was in any way compromised. why won't the cronies in congress own that? why won't they put you first, instead of trump. together as ever as one. no matter who you voted for or whether you voted at all. this has to be about us. it is our only way through. those that should be serving us and doing their job, but they
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are only serving their own dilatory. every day they talk about trump's cause, they abandon your own. they are not talking about or acting on the worst pandemic numbers to date. there is nothing else to do or to do differently. we are dying at a faster rate. they are doing less. they promised stimulus post election. where is it? 709,000 more americans just filed for unemployment for the first time. more people are on food lines than at any time since the great depression. mr. mcconnell, leader of the senate won't answer if biden should get classified briefings and no move for stimulus by him. senate whip said give biden the briefings but only because it makes sense to prepare for all
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contingencies. look, taking office after being elected president is not a contingency. it is called democracy. all of those undermining it know it. there are questions they say. based on what? where is the proof? if questions were enough trump would have been removed and not just impeached and even more of their minions would be exchanging names for numbers. even those that appear to step up like senator langford who publicly voiced support for biden getting briefs. >> we don't know yet, but we know there are issues. allow the hand recount to happen in georgia. once we get past that we will know who the winner is. at this point we don't know. >> shame on him. look at him and how different he is when he doesn't know the
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camera is on. >> whether now president-elect joe biden gets elected. >> in god's house, you tell the truth. good you still keep that clear. maybe he does not keep it clear. you know what happened when the tape came out? he denied saying it. it is on tape. how stupid do they think you are? i can keep exposing the hypocrisy but wouldn't it be easier for them to do their damn jobs. they want you to think votes for trump were fraudulent and all of the votes for congress on the same ballot are okay. all of the state legislature wins, they are good. they are capable of
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>> this is the last chance for the sore losers on the left to steal the election. >> they are saying it is rigged but they have absolutely no evidence it is rigged. >> i don't think we should give them the time of the day. about to win michigan officially and that would put donald trump over the top with over 300 electoral votes. i wonder what the democrats are doing trying to convince their electoral representatives to not vote the way the people wanted and now the states with a recount. >> it is a crisis when the people running your democracy don't believe in democracy. >> we believe in free speech. we believe in accepting winners and not being sore losers. >> no actual proof of voter fraud or wrongdoing and the white house and the wisconsin election commission said zero evidence. now what happened to the peaceful transition of power and supporting the incoming administration. >> seriously can't make it up.
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you change trump for biden and the r for the d and they are saying the exact opposite now of what they said then with the same basis of proof, zero. it is as obvious as it is ugly. now president obama who welcomed trump to the white house after his victory in 2016, he nailed what is going on today. listen. >> they appear to be motivated in part because the president does not like to lose and never admits loss. i am more troubled by the fact that other republican officials who clearly know better are going along with this. are humoring him in this fashion.
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>> to speak the awful truth to his falsehood, your place will be among the davids who took on goliath, if only you will say enough. that was chairman and congressman adam schiff. he joins us now. welcome back to primetime. >> thank you chris. >> so, you saw something like this. but what do you make of so many members of the republican party in your ranks in congress holding up a baseless assessment of the election? >> well, it is shameless and it does as president obama said put us on a very dangerous path. but it is the culmination of
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four years of this. the president was really only able to attack the justice department because the republicans stood mute or went along with it. he was only able to violate the hatch act because republicans went along with it. he was only able to fire inspector generals or punish whistleblowers or any number of anti-democratic acts because the republicans went along with it and now are going along with the big lie about the election we just had. right now they don't want to piss off the president and risk retribution in georgia. it won't end there either. as long as he is hanging out the prospect he might run or even if he doesn't in four years he might bestow the crown on someone else. they will continue to debase themselves and our democracy.
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>> has anybody come up to you in private saying hold your horses, i heard some things you will want to have vetted about the election as well. has anybody offered you anything? >> no. look at the incredible statement coming out of the department of homeland security that agency within homeland, clear as day. basically saying that there is none of this massive fraud in terms of this election system. they are saying that there is nothing truthful about what the president has just said. i give them credit for courage. that is a gutsy thing to do but it is the right thing to do. there ought to be more people in congress to show that kind of courage. >> so let's deal with the what now questions.
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what now in terms of what can you do. it does not look like much. now what does it mean for your ability to get any stimulus going or any type of different approach to the pandemic that is eating us alive. what does it mean for all of the problems? >> you know, i think we can because we will have to compartmenalize the need to get a relief bill passed. it just can't wait until we have a new president sworn in. there are millions of businesses teetering on the edge, many of which will not be there in january if we don't act and replenish the ppp program. millions of people lose unemployment. schools, cities, skates that need help. we need to get it done. i have a little bit more opt. >> in now that the election is over.
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mitch mcconnell still has some of the incentive because the georgia special is not over. but he sounds like he is more receptive and we need to make it so. it just can't wait. >> give me confidence in that optimism. to me it looks like you guys are in to obama redux, mitch and the gang will lock it up. no judges for this cat. we are holding up all of his appointments. he is not getting anything done unless we want it. they are still in control because they have one house of congress. >> i think that is where kevin mccarthy is coming from. see if we can prevent them from governing and argue for a takeover of the congress because they didn't govern.
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maybe mcconnell has well. this is a reason here for optimism. if there was ever a president positioned to break the impasse it is joe biden. he had decades of experience working with the congress. he has relationships in the senate. he knows how to get deals done, unlike donald trump who is a good marketer but terrible deal maker. joe biden knows how to get deals done. that should be reason for optimism. the american people need to make it plain to mitch mcconnell and mccarthy that if they don't come to the table they are go to pay an awful price in georgia and the rest of the country in the midterms. >> the republicans did well on the congressional side and really well on the state legislative slide. biden was there for both terms with obama. he didn't get any big deals
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done. the only thing they got done, the aca. >> you are right. that was big. as a result tens of millions of people have health care. >> but it wasn't a deal. >> it wasn't a deal. no. you are right. there were deals that were made that was, as you say, something that had to be muscled through the congress. but look, i think that joe biden has the personal skills. i also think that he is going to have the country rooting for him to succeed because they need the help. look, the hospitals are more full than ever with covid patients. people are dying in record numbers. the country sees that. you can't be blind to that. they want to put the country behind them and get the economy reopened again. they can't do that until we defeat the virus.
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joe biden is going to try to defeat this thing. we can do this. if mitch mcconnell and kevin mccarthy are nothing but an obstacle, the country will see that. >> i wonder if they don't benefit of playing down the pandemic. even when they hear the statistics. now you have the time period, the period where we don't know what is happening. the president is on a revenge tour. shifting up the seats in the pentagon. intelligence agency, maybe russia revenge. >> a big part of this is plain prettiness and the desire to retaliate against his perceived
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enemies. the president does not need more of a reason than that. he is nothing but not vindictive. equally dangerous are the people that he is replacing the agency heads with. these are unqualified partisan hacks that don't have the policy jobs. they are not being put in there for that reason. if we are not careful they could create foreign policy crisis in waiting for the new administration. donald trump would not care anything about that. one of the points we emphasized, in the trial was the one thing that you can rely on with donald trump, he will do what is in his personal interest. he does not care what it means to the country. and if he can sabotage the next administration he will do it. if he can retaliate against his enemies, he will do it. if he can stay in office and if
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he can essentially vacate the election, he will do it. but he won't be able to. he won't be able to. and we just have to hope and we have to pray, as you say, that a few more republicans find their courage and their voice and remind themselves what they ran for office for when they ran for office so long ago. it certainly was not to deny a peaceful transition of power. >> you add the word more. right now we are just looking for a few republicans, period, just to acknowledge it. trump can't do it on his own. he can play with the appointments. i believe the finger of blame and shame should be pointed at congress. they are allowing and pretending this facade and farce has legitimacy to it. and i don't know how it ends, at least before thanksgiving. i mean what is the chance that anybody gets any help standing in food lines, 700,000 that just
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filed for unemployment before thanksgiving? >> chris, it just has got to end. we have got to get it done. we need to go into session and stay in session until we get it done. one thing that gives you optimism, we need a bill to keep the government open. nobody will want a shut down of the government right now. and as we negotiate the package to keep the government open, we will be negotiating the package to help the american people. it is my hope, and to my expectation that we will do both. >> well, look as always i hope you are right and i am wrong. the people need help. i mean this is beyond left and right. this is just about what is reasonable. hopefully mcconnell does act on the instincts you are saying may be president. adam schiff, thank you for your perspective and your optimism. >> thanks, chris. >> be well. the current president, donald
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trump. not that he never lost. it is that he has never lost and not been bailed out before, right. daddy was always there. the banks were on the hook. the banks were there so, is that why he is risking our democracy for his own ego, because he doesn't know any other way? good question. i don't know the answer. you know who might? mary trump. she is as i am focusing on the wrong thing. what she fears he may still do. valuable insight next. with this seal, this restaurant is committing to higher levels of cleanliness. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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>> leaders from both parties in states across the country said the election was good. there has been no proof of anything that could change the count and no court found differently. so if it is not about the facts what is trump doing here? his only niece is mary trump, psychologist and author of the best seller on how the trump family created who she calls the world's most dangerous man. why is he doing it? >> it is functionally, not because donald is behave iing l
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a brat but because his enablers are allowing him to continue to sew doubt about a perfectly legitimate election and are allowing him to prevent a smooth transition to the next administration and allowing him to make it seem like the election of president-elect biden was illegitimate somehow. i don't believe it will be successful. but we can't underestimate the damage being done to american democracy and the people's faith in our elections going forward. >> you say you don't believe your uncle is able to handle this situation or handle losing. how so? >> in my family, at least certainly according to my grandfather whose opinion was the only one that mattered. the worst thing you could be was
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a loser. being a loser made you weak and unworthy and as you said earlier for the first time in his life donald is in a situation he can't get out of. he has never won anything legitimately in his life. but being on the winning side of things is always been so important to him that he is willing to lie, steal and use others power and influence to get the win. that can't happen now. he is in a state of terror. he is in a state of rage. he is in a state of total helplessness right now. >> does it matter the kids are divided, the sons are on one side and the son-in-law and ivanka are saying it is over? does that divide matter in the mind of trump?
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>> no, i don't think it does. i don't think there is anybody that can talk him down quite honestly. this has been allowed to go on for way too long. two factors i think are more important. he lost decisively but the republican party did fairly well. donald can't blame anybody but himself for the loss. more importantly we have republican leadership. seems like almost the entire republican party as you and congressman schiff just said continuing to go along with the charade only to fuel donald's need for revenge and need to play it out as long as possible. >> i get they don't want to
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alienate the base and some have the next crazed notion they could be the next trump. i don't think they get why he attached himself to the anger of so many people in this country in a way they will never represent. i think they are underestimating what they are licensing or enabling and what it may allow your uncle to do. what do you think that he is capable of they might not be imagining? >> this is the awful part of this. he is capable of anything, right. however he should have been rendered completely irrelevant by now. whether he concedes or not does not matter. as long as they don't do that, they give him power and the ability to rile up his base and
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the other people that voted for him. it is an incredibly dangerous situation. they are pretending they can control this monster they are unleashing upon us. and the two special elections for senate in georgia, and you know, if he continues to allow this to go on we are going to be in a much more difficult position. >> you think your uncle would run again? >> sorry. >> you don't want to comment. do you think he would run again, he can. >> yes, he can. no.
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he will never put himself in a position where he can lose like this again. in four years he will be the same age that joe biden is now. donald is a very unhealthy person. he may be looking at serious charges brought against him. >> he might not look healthy but he beat covid quickly. do you think he has the ability
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to tell his supporters don't just donate to me, fight for me. resist. come out. don't let them do this. do you think he has that? he hasn't done it before or he hasn't had to. or do you think that is a bridge too far even for him. >> first of all, there is no bridge too far. he said nothing publicly for the last six days. six service members died in a helicopter crash. he hasn't addressed that. late to a veterans day memorial, stayed for six minutes and made a flashy commercial about it. covid-19 is ravaging our country. he is doing absolutely nothing about any of this. this is willful. he is doing nothing to contain
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the virus. do we seriously think that he would not take it a step farther? he does not care about the american people unless they are of service to him. he will do twhaefr he feels he needs to do as long as the republicans allow it. >> it is surprising that his entire party is following along. i hope they understand they are going to own this. your uncle is no surprise. mary trump, thank you for your insight. i appreciate it. >> thank you so much. georgia, very much in the crosshairs. the run-off will determine control of the senate. there is a recount of the
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six days to recount almost 5 million ballots by hand. that is the situation in georgia. the interesting question is why do it? seems the only person that gets full satisfaction from this might be the current president. the work also is go to fall on the backs of some exhausted americans being the election workers who are coming off of a month of marathon shifts. is it necessary? nobody expects any of it to matter. the president-elect leads by 14,000 votes there.
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now, jeff duncan is the state's republican lieutenant governor and joins us tonight. thank you for doing this sir. >> great to be with you. >> help me understand the state of play. the law says equal to or less than .5% a candidate can ask for an audit and then it is done by the machines, recounting or you can have a select audit where you sample individual ballots from different areas just to spot check. instead you are doing a full recount by hand. why? >> well, our state is in the middle of the process like every other state counting every legal ballot out there. 159 counties. there is the process of the audit. the secretary of state made the decision to audit the presidential race. they decided to audit the entire
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5 million votes. separate from that are the candidates are able to ask for a recount. that would be a separate process. in the midst of it i think the secretary of state stated today the risk audit would start on friday and end on wednesday. we will be able to gain the confidence of 11 million and nearly 5 million people that voted in the recent election. >> governor, do you have a reason -- >> you can call me jeff. >> i respect the title. governor, do you have any reason to believe that the count is off? >> well, we continue to work closely with our attorney general, chris carr and secretary of state office. that i have all of the resources ready and available to investigate. certainly they are fielding calls. there are things out there. we heard some deceased individuals and certainly issues out there.
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they continue to investigate those. at this time i have not seen any systemic irregularities or issues. but there is still time and the audit is out there to make sure they don't exist. this is a bipartisan goal for all of us. we want the election to be fair and legal and every legal vote to be counted and we certainly all champion that process in georgia. >> you are not waiting for proof of the problem. you are acting like if there is proof of a problem, which you say you have not seen substantial or systemic issues but you are doing a full recount which is not called for by law. are you going the extra mile to make someone happy. is that the wrong assertion. >> yeah. it is. >> the statistical closeness of the race would require several million so it would take so much
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time to pull out several million votes as opposed to count the full 5 million. i believe other folks smarter than me decided that was the best way forward. >> a risk limiting audit winds up the full thing as a state recount even though it describes it as a partial process to take the temperature of what is out there. a sampling opposed to a full recount. >> the second process is that a candidate -- >> that is a machine recount. >> that is correct. look, we have a lot of opportunities here to earn the confidence of georgiians and we are going to be proud of the effort. >> if biden said i think i won by more and i want you to recount all of the votes. would you have done it? >> he has that legal right. just because the guy i voted for is not ahead does not mean my job description changes. it is to go to work every day and follow the letter of the
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law. certainly i know i will take that seriously. it is imperative to earn the confidence of our georgia voters. every candidate deserves the right to have every legal vote counted. >> how do you feel about what is happening? do you feel that joe biden is the president-elect? >> i think those terms are left with the media. my job is to count the votes and certify a fair legal election here. i heard you mention on the lead-in, we also have the balance of the senate sitting here in georgia. obviously we have a lot going on here and certainly i want to make sure, as a republican, i want to focus hard on trying to get them back into the senate. >> they called for the secretary of state to step down because they didn't like the election the way it was. >> i have not talked to them. i worked closely with the secretary of state's office.
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he has been great to work with. >> so he shouldn't step down? >> certainly i have not seen challenges on my end. he made it clear he is not stepping down. >> i read the statement. one other thing. you do be that president-elect is not a media creation. it is not a term that we use. it is a term within our constitutional democracy. >> look. i will let you take that term at this point. i am going to focus on the election. >> you don't use the term president-elect? >> if you let me answer i will tell you this. when we see our certification in georgia and watch the other states certify i will be proud to call whoever is out there president-elect. that is what america voted for. >> did you wait in 2016 when trump won or call him president-elect before the certification? >> i can't remember back that far. that is 2016. >> you are a young man.
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>> i think a lot has changed. >> a lot has changed since then. lieutenant governor,ip appreciate your canned dor, i d mean to be cute. be well. media or not, joe biden is president-elect. it is not because i say so or the media called it. it is the way that we do it in every election. nobody is saying don't certify it but don't suggest it is screwed up without proof. that is why careful conversations like that are necessary. this is a strange situation. how do we get out of this pandemic? that is a puzzle. we are going to bring in someone hard at work on it. a front line member of president-elect biden's new coronavirus task force. how do they see the problem.
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all right. assuming the new administration comes in, sooner, rather than later. or at least as constitutionally directed. let's get the basics. covid is real. covid is bad. and, yes, covid is now real bad. it is exploding across the united states, at a level we have not seen before. and yet, our president has, literally, said nothing about it turning for the worse. he's, literally, said nothing about the crisis, at all, since the election. and he wonders why he lost? his loss isn't the problem. it's a thousand lives, a day, that are being lost. that's the problem. the overall death toll stands at more than 242,000. you'll hear people say, yeah, but as a percentage of cases, we're doing better than most. just because we've gotten better at keeping people alive doesn't mean they come out okay. just because we have more
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medicines and treatments doesn't mean it's okay. the cdc model projects, now, that more than 39,000 people could die, in the next three weeks. another model used by the white house says the overall death toll could exceed 400,000, within the next four months. you think you can say that, and it is what it is, comfortably? president did. the absence of leadership is a problem, here. it turned the likelihood of a dark winter into a certainty. the biden administration knows that. they will inherit it. the question is can they do better? dr. robert rodriguez is a member of biden's coronavirus task force, and an emergency care physician. he joins us now. doc, thank you. >> great to be here, chris. >> congratulations. let me ask you. when you look at the problem, what are you hearing from the group in terms of group approach and what needs to be different? >> well, chris. the first step is taking it seriously. and this team is a testament to the fact that president-elect
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biden, vice president-elect harris, are locked in on this. addressing the covid-19 pandemic is their number-one priority. and they've put this team together, to hit the ground running. such that, on day one, we're going to turn this thing around. we're going to put the country on a path to -- to turn this thing around. and i'm fully confident, chris, that, towards the end of january, americans are going to give a sigh of relief and finally start to feel safe, again. >> why that might happen is a function of how, meaning, what you do between now and then. critics of president-elect biden say your plan is trump's plan. you're not going to do anything differently than he did, except, maybe, how you talk about it. is that true? >> no, not at all. i -- i don't agree with that. we're going to be much more aggressive. we're -- we're going to do sm t smart -- very smart contact tracing, excuse me. we're going to be very
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aggressive in other measures to -- to address vulnerable populations. this -- this team is an a1 -- a -- a-positive, a-plus team, chris. and i'm confident that we're going to advise the president-elect. and we are going to come up with ways to really approach this differently. and again, it really starts with that taking it seriously, and listening to the science. and president-elect biden, vice president-elect harris, are doing just that. in our first meeting with president-elect and vice president-elect harris, they were laser focused, i can tell you, that they were -- they asked great questions. extremely, high-level questions, that showed that they understand the problem. and most importantly, chris, they -- they listened to us. they -- it's clear that they're going to listen to the science. >> well, look. as i told you before we started the commercial, you got a low bar for success because the
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current president kept telling everybody that covid wasn't real, and it was a hoax. the question, now, becomes how you can get us to a better place? and the bar for that is going to be lockdowns. people are afraid of them. they believe that it does more harm than help. do you believe that there could be control of the numbers, without shutting things down, completely? >> i do, chris. i do believe that. i think that it's really a matter of being smart about it. it's really a matter of -- of doing the basic things, mask wearing, making that an emphasis. making it a, sort of, universal approach to that. just a -- an approach where you consider the particular circumstances of the community. and so, i -- i don't believe that a full lockdown is -- is the -- is going to be what -- the way to go. but again, we -- we have to take it community by community.
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>> dr. rodriguez, congratulations on being the task -- on the task force. you know, if you want to help people, now is the time and you're in the right place because this pandemic is, literally, killing us. so, thank you very much. good luck, going forward. let us know what information we can get out to help people avoid the virus. >> thanks, so much, chris. i really appreciate that. >> godspeed. we'll be right back. g trip... ...when their windshield got a chip. they drove to safelite for a same-day repair. and with their insurance, it was no cost to them. >> woman: really? >> tech: that's service you can trust. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪
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it is my great honor to introduce you to "cnn tonight" and d lemon. what is the big question tonight? i say it is, at what cost, don lemon? >> for what? you mean, for what the president's doing or the republicans who are enabling it? >> the enablers. the enablers. at what cost? >> that's a big question. i mean, how much time do you have? >> you have an hour and -- you have 61 minu

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