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on conspiracy theory, not the survival of the american people. take a look at your screen. 11 million cases, it reveals the depths of the u.s. failure to control the coronavirus. tonight, michigan is implementing new restrictions to avert a winter disaster. but already, pushback from the president's preferred medical advisor, dr. scott atlas. and today, a revelation about how little the president has been engaged fighting covid behind the scenes. dr. anthony fauci said it's been five months since the president met with the coronavirus task force. it's been eight days since the election was called and the president still refuses to concede. but this morning, the president tweeted the quiet part out loud. at least to him. he won. are the first two words of the president's 7:47 a.m. tweet.

he is joe biden. the rest is a hodgepodge of unsubstantiated allegations from an alternate universe. the president suggested the election is still up for grabs. it isn't. in fact, delaying could create national security vulnerabilities. former president obama says it's time. >> the president doesn't like to lose. and never admits loss. i'm more troubled by the fact that other republican officials who clearly know better are going along, humoring him in this fashion. it's one more step in delegitimizing not just the incoming biden administration, but democracy, generally.

and that's a dangerous path. coming up soon, a look at the inner workings of the trump white house. three insiders give insight into what is happening in the west wing. will a transition delay jeopardize u.s. national security? those are some of the key questions we'll be asking. but first, we're covering every angle of the critical days between the election and the inauguration. let's start with jeremy diamond at the white house. a remarkable back and forth this evening between the governor of michigan and the president's preferred medical adviser. what is going on? >> reporter: well, this isn't the first time the president and his team have singled out gretchen whitmer. she's been a frequent target of the president's attacks as she tries to get control of the

pandemic in her state. after announcing the new restrictions in the state of michigan to try to rein in the pandemic in michigan, dr. scott atlas, who is not a public health expect, he's a neuroradiolo neuroradiologi neuroradiologist, he's tweeting, the only way this stop is if people rise up. you get what you accept. #freedommatters, #stepup. and governor whitmer was the target of a kidnapping plot that was foiled by law enforcement officials last month. scott atlas said he was never talking about violence, saying that people should peacefully protest the measures. and here's what governor whitmer said to wolf blitzer.

>> we know the white house likes to single us out here in michigan, me out in particular. i'm not going to be bullied into not following reputable scientists and experts. i listen to people who have studied and are well-respected worldwide on these issues, not the individual that is doing the president's bidding on this one. >> reporter: the michigan governor making it clear she's not going to be deterred. the president, meanwhile, he isn't doing much at all to rein in the pandemic. he hasn't been telling americans what to do, he's been echoing misinformation. pam? >> dr. atlas is claiming he wasn't encouraging violence, and this wasn't in regards to the fact that she had been targeted

in a kidnapping plot for her prior covid restrictions. do we have a better understanding of what he meant by saying rise up? >> reporter: he says in the tweet, hey, i never was talking about violence. people vote and protest. never would i endorse or incite violence, never. ultimately, this is dr. scott atlas, who has the president's ear, he's going against the consensus of every public health expert who you would hope that the president of the united states would be listening to. instead, he's listening to dr. scott atlas, who is not an epidemiologist. pam? >> jeremy, thank you so much. let's go to jessica dean, the word is that there will be a meeting with the biden camp with pfizer? >> reporter: yes, we heard from

ron klain saying they do plan to meet with pfizer and other drug companies, as they continue to push ahead in their transition. they have formed the covid-19 advisory board next week, and have been trying to do what they can while the formal transition remainin remains in limbo. remember, the gsa has not signed off on the transition. so the formal transition has not been triggered yet, so the biden team is not legally allowed to reach out to current federal employees. they're having to do a lot of this work where they can, with private companies, with local officials. here's klain from earlier today. >> we're going to have meetings between our top scientific advisers and the officials of these drug companies. not just pfizer, but other promising vaccines as well. we'll start those consultations this week. it's great to have a vaccine,

but vaccines don't save lives. vaccinations save lives. you need to get that vaccine into people's arms all over the country. it's a giant logistical project. >> reporter: and the biden team understands what an enormous undertaking it will be to distribute the vaccine. they want to get going on it, they want a seamless transition on january 20th. so people in health and human services are talking through how to distribute the vaccine, but the biden transition is not able to talk with them, so it's not an easy thing to do. and time is just taking away. another area where this is having an effect is national security. biden is still not getting the national security briefings, that means they're not able to follow the day to day's bulletin points of what is going on in the national security realm. and people like john kelly, former chief of staff of the

trump administration, said this could be catastrophic, that biden should be getting those. so a number of things that they can't do, that they would be getting in a normal transition process. and in addition to keeping covid front and center, we'll hear a lot more about that this week, they're also going to be focusing in on the economy. we'll expect to see and hear from the president-elect and the vice president-elect tomorrow afternoon. talking about the economy, about building back better. they're going to talk about what actionable items they'll be looking at, now that they're headed to office. >> and now, dr. celine gounder, joining me. i want to talk about what

concerns it raises for you that the president's medical adviser is attacking the governor of michigan for implementing these restrictions. >> i think we agree, the american people must rise, we must rise to the occasion in the absence of leadership, it's in our hands to work with our state and local officials to do what we need to do in terms of masking. this is a chief, effective intervention that does not interfere with the economy. and it's highly effective. and i think you're seeing great leadership from governors like governor whitmer, who are really following the science. and you'll notice that she's implementing restrictions that are very targeted. i think it of as a dimmer

switch, versus what we saw in the spring, with draconian lockdowns. for example, in terms of schools, it's not a full school shutdown. they're targeting the older students who are more likely to transmit. they're targeting the closure of indoor dining, but leaving outdoor dining and takeout open. they're closing up group classes, at gyms, but they're leaving individual gym workouts open. they're really trying to be very judicious in what they're closing up. >> would the biden administration encourage other states to adopt similar types of mitigation efforts? >> i think this is exactly what we're looking at doing. we're talking about, let's be geographically targeted, by zip code. let's follow the science, now that we understand better what are the settings where transmission is more likely to occur. what are the age groups that are

more likely to have transmission? but i think moving forward, we really do need to dramatically scale up testing. because that information allows us to be more targeted. when you don't know where the virus is, it's harder to do that. >> let's talk about the practical impacts of what we're seeing with the transition stalled. how is impacting the fight against covid? how have you been directly impacted? the wlo tell us what it's been like from your view, and what the practical concern is from your experience. >> well, we really need to have a much better understanding of the details. for example, how much ppe, you know, the masks and face shields and ventilators and all of the other necessary equipment, is

available, where is it, how much of it do we have? how many hospital beds, how many ventilators? some of this information is publicly available, but not all of it and not in real time. >> you've asked for that, and they're not giving it to you? >> we're not getting any information. >> you've asked for that information, and you're getting stonewalled, correct? >> we're being given what is publicly accessible information. >> thank you so much for joining me. as president trump refuses to concede, america's adversaries are watching. coming up, i'll speak with three people who have worked in the trump administration, and talk about what they think he'll do next. and we have lift-off. astronauts heading to the

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national security and health crisis. the downside could be catastrophic to people regardless of who they voted for. it's a remarkable break in precedent, and it's not a move that anyone makes lightly. tonight, you'll hear from three trump administration insiders who know how the president operates and thinks because they were a part of our government. olivia troy, she was part of key meetings with the president, vice president, and other top administration officials. she resigned in july, saying she was fed up with the president's botched response to the pandemic. also, elizabeth newman, one of 150 former national security officials who signed a letter warning of risks in the biden

transition delay. and john kosik, as well. thank you all for joining me, first and foremost. i appreciate you taking the time. i want to go to you first, john. what is the president's refusal to concede this election doing to an already deeply divided country in your view. not just that he won't concede, but also claiming the election was stolen from him. >> pamela, first of all, thank you for having me on. and the country is already extremely polarized, with the amount of distrust, discord, and hatred out there is extreme. and at the same time, the president is undermining the basis of our democracy, and the peaceful transfer of power, which is the hallmark of our

democracy. this is making a situation that has grown virtually intolerable over the past years worse, and unfortunately i think it's designed to sow distrust in the incoming biden administration. >> and you have to wonder if america's adversaries are saying, this is exactly what we want. and you're seeing not just former officials, but current officials speaking out. chris krebs calling on people to ignore wild and baseless claims, even if they're made by the president. saying there's no evidence there were any deleted or lost votes or that it was in any way compromised. what is the significance of a current official directly rebuking the president on this issue? >> look, this was the most secure election that we've ever

had. the great men and women at sisa, and the intelligence and military community worked for the last four years to make sure that every vote would be protected, and that we could have confidence in the election system. what you're seeing out of dhs and sisa is a continuation of that mission they took on four years ago to make sure that the american people have the facts. you're seeing public servants committed to making sure that americans have the truth. but as john just mentioned, we're living in a very polarized time, where people are operating from different sets of facts. and it's not exactly clear that by having a federal agency come out and say this, that the sides that are supporting trump would actually believe it. it's the right thing to do, it's hard to see if that will have much of an effect.

>> and olivia, six days ago, the u.s. surpassed 10 million cases of covid, today it's 11 million. you worked closely with vice president pence on the white house coronavirus task force. how might the fact that trump is blocking the transition impact the spiraling health crisis? >> i think it has a significant impact. they need to understand really what is going on behind the scenes, the data. and we need to be looking forward. because today we have the highest case numbers right now happening, but they'll continue to increase, and people will continue to die. and it's so upsetting, especially for me, who is watching my hometown of el paso, i'm here right now, and watching the white house continuously play politics over lives, again and again and again. it's just so upsetting. and they should just do the right thing and support the biden transition, get the

experts the information, and get them talking together so we can protect our american citizens. because this virus is real. and it's spreading. and we're in a really bad situation. >> yeah, that's just the reality. you look at the numbers, it's just the numbers. that tells you the truth. where we are with this virus. and john, i hinted at this before we were talking, but it's not just the fact that trump is refusing to concede to joe biden, he's denying him access to classified briefings. since monday, four senior defense officials have been fired. how does that make america more vulnerable to threats? >> it's the obligation and authority of the administrator of general services to ascertain the identity of the apparent

incoming president and vice president. it doesn't require absolute certainty, and it's outrageous that the biden administration is being completely denied access to information which is bringing in the transition to a standstill. that information is absolutely critical for the incoming administration, to do what they need to do. they need the information, the resources, the office space, and the access to the president's daily briefings and the classified information. without that, our national security is absolutely impaired. the bush administration started off at an disadvantage because of the delay to their transition, because of the florida issue. and the bottom line is, every minute that the biden/harris transition is delayed creates further risk to our national

security. and emily murphy must ascertain that joe biden and kamala harris are the president-elect and vice president-elect immediately. >> i want to go to you, olivia, on that. the white house is saying, look, everything is publicly available. we're asking about the d distribution plans for the vaccine. that's publicly available. what is your reaction? >> that's ludicrous. what needs to be happening, the biden team needs to be briefed on what worked, what didn't work in the past. and they have experts there. i was on the task force. i know numerous situations that should have been implemented that weren't. and so do those other experts. and they need to be talking to them and briefing them on plans that were never implemented because the president and his circle of influence blocked them from happening. and that's just mind-blowing to me. >> and celine gounder, a doctor

advising the biden task force saying they're just not getting the answers they ask for. and as we know, the president has a habit of dismissing former administration officials, labelling them as part of the swamp in an effort to discredit them. as a former administration official, what do you have to say in the face of 72-plus million americans voting for the president? this election was hardly a rebuke of him. this was after several officials like yourself spoke out against him. what do you say about that? >> it's certainly going to be the topic of conversation at many virtual thanksgiving dinners. it's hard, with the opposite

sphere of facts. if you live in a red state or a red county, you're mostly encountering people who are republican, and it's hard to understand the perspective of peop people who have a different one. and the same for democrat counties. and i have some hope that we have some 85% of the country that is only occasionally engaged, and they're living real lives. that tells me that we can get out and try to re-create civil discourse. but we have to fix this polarized media problem, where we have two completely different echo chambers, and two completely different sets of facts that we're operating off

of. that's why i think you have 72 million people voting for him, because he created a narrative that was based on lies. but nobody ever injected facts enough for them to discover the lies. i think hopefully on the other side of this circus, maybe some of those voters, not all, but some will come to realize the truth. but we have to do that carefully and gently. because it's not as if the other side hasn't also had challenges of their own. so this is a very delicate place that we find ourselves in. and i'm grateful that joe biden will be the president to try to lead us through that unification process. >> and i agree that people can choose what they want to read and take in. and that is something certainly to be examined moving forward. thank you so much. >> thank you. america's coronavirus

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the state of utah has hit record highs in new covid-19 cases, deaths, and hospitalizations. the governor has issued a statewide mask mandate, and limited social gatherings. but for some families, those measures come a little too late. the devastating toll of this pandemic on one family in salt lake city. >> i'm declaring a new state of emergency to address hospital overcrowding. >> reporter: a two-week state of emergency, ordering all utahans to mask up. banning residents from socializing with people from different households. ramping up testing across the

state. even deploying the national guard to help. >> it's crazy to think that this lady right here, this is what she is now. it's just memories. and it's heartbreaking. >> this is one of the last photos taken of them together. >> reporter: but this woman says those measures were too little, too late. her grandfather died of covid-19 last month. days later, her mom also lost her life to covid. her father battled the disease for 46 days in the hospital. now home, recovering, and mourning the love of his life. >> the whole day was probably one of the harder days of my life. >> reporter: she recalls the day doctors told her that her mom probably wouldn't survive.

then she found out her grandfather would pass. >> he said, kiddo, i'm not doing good. she said, dad, i'm not, either. he said, i'm dying. she said, dad, i am, too. and he said, then i'll look for you in heaven. >> reporter: she wants others to learn from her family's tragedy. >> it's frustrating that people brush it off, that it is just the flu. because for some people, it's not. for some people, it costs their life. it took my mom and that's irreplaceable. my kids -- my kids don't get their grandma. my -- my mom will never see my kids get married. >> reporter: now, dozens of people in her family were affected by covid. so much so that part of her mom's funeral had to be broadcast by zoom so they could

be a part of it, too. her story is unfortunately a microcosm of what is happening across the state of utah as well as across the country. her message, this isn't political. if something as simple as wearing a mask could save even one life, please do so. >> what a heartbreaking and important story that was. thank you, lucy. in 11 days, america celebrates thanksgiving. i want you to take a look at these pictures. lines and lines of cars at the north texas food bank yesterday. an estimated 25,000 people, hungry, and in need of help, receiving 600,000 pounds of food. this is the richest nation in the world. and yet americans, as you see here in this video, they're lining up by the thousands for their next meal. and this comes as members of congress on both sides of the aisle are playing politics, not

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the president doesn't like to lose, and never admits loss. i'm more troubled by the fact that other republican officials who clearly know better are going along with this. are humoring him in this fashion. it is one more step in delegitimizing, not just the incomiing biden administration, but democracy, generally. and that's a dangerous path. >> that was former president obama, talking about the stalled transition of power in washington. the race was called a week ago for president-elect biden, but president trump is still refusing to concede. joining me now, brian stelter, host of reliable sources. good to see you, brian.

>> you, too. >> the president's supporters gathering by the thousands in d.c., and it shows his base is still very much energized. they're believing this narrative. and they believe him even though biden is the president-elect. president obama says maybe the media is to blame for the fierce partisanship. >> the media landscape has changed, and democratic and republican voters have become much more partisan. you already saw some of these trends early in my presidency, but i think they've kept on getting worse. >> he's summing up that whether you're on the right or left, or in these echo chambers of news and misinformation, right wing

supporters moving from twitter to parler, and moving away from fox news. >> this is the move from three channels to thousands of channels. and president obama is talking about how that makes it harder to govern and have a functioning democracy. i don't think might be would want to go back to a time before the internet, before mobile phones. but the consequence of this technology is that everybody is a member of the media. now, with the lies and smears, they're able to get major traction. obama talks about this in the interviews, he's very critical of the disinformation world that now exists. but like everybody else, he doesn't have any easy answers. he can identify the problems, and he's right, but there are no easy solutions.

>> we're probably going to see more apps like parler popping up, where you go and if you're a consid conservative, that's a popular app, and you don't have anything challenging you. and on twitter and facebook, there's more of an effort to show the real information. but also, president obama talked about how presidents bring different temperaments to office. >> every president brings a certain temperament to office. i think part of the reason i got elected was because i sent a message that fundamentally i believe the american people are good and decent. and that politics doesn't have to be some cage match in which

everybody is going at each other's throats. and that we can agree without being disagreeable. >> he talked about cage match. i'm curious, do you think the media spurs that on, the idea that both sides have to be at each other's throats? >> social media platforms are certainly antisocial in many ways. in fact, i think at their local level, in the real world, our politics is not as broken as it appears nationally. but because everything has been nationalized, including local races, it's become more and more poisonous. obama says he doesn't know if he would have received the same treatment now as 12 years ago in the democratic primaries. i think that's why this book is so important, it comes out tuesday, it's going to be the biggest book of the year, 3

million copies printed. i hope obama can draw people in and talk about what politics in america can be. this book may be inspirational for that reason. >> brian, thank you so much. >> thanks. one small step for spacex is one major step for the space flight. i'm going to talk to a former commander about today's launch, next.

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three, two, one, zero. resilience rises. not even gravity contains humanity when we explore as one for all. they lifted off from the kennedy space center at 7:27 p.m. they are on their way to the international space station. three american astronauts and one japanese astronaut are all traveling aboard on the

resilience. they're apart of the fully operational mission on the space station where they'll spend the next six months. joining me is terry verts, former astronaut, retired astronaut. you spent 213 days in space and where the kmacommander of the international space. i can't think of a better person to ask, why is this launch today so important and historic? >> well, it is a big deal fiorifo for nasa because of the commercial crew program that we had for the last ten years is in the operational phase. it was a test program. we had that mission a few months ago that a lot of people followed. this is a routine launch to the

space station which is a big deal. >> so i mean people hear about t launches to the international space station, why is this such a big deal? >> well, you need to have some way to get people to and from the station, for the last 20 years, the space station ops, it only has been the russian soils. which has been great. they have been a great partner. that's how i went to station on my last flight. it is something that's launching from america which is important also. >> all right, i want to make sure we hit on all that. you flew aboarded russian rocket which costs $90 million. right now mike hopkins and victor glover and shannon walker and soichi no noguchi, how

important is this effort? >> the ability to have a crew rotational rocket is necessary. i think more than that spacex is also boeing which will be launching next year on their capsule and it gives the redunda redundancy to get people up and down. launching the astronauts is just a logistical cob. >> the astronauts are wearing gloves that allows them to use touch screen. how different is this compares

to your trip on space? >> i was the astronaut, flew into space with a control stick and maneuver it, i flew it back like an airplane. spacex is 100% automated. it is like an ipad. i want to go left and you push the left button and the spaceship maneuvers. they should not have to do it manually. if you do, you control it with an ipad which is pretty cool. it is kind of like the movie "2001" if you remember that where you just sat there and that robot took you to the station, that's what's happening today. >> all right, let's talk about once they arrive at their destination, what are some of the unusual things that these astronauts have to adjust to while they're on the space station? >> three of them have flown before. glover is his first flight. one of the things that's oriented when you are in the capsule is really small. there is a little bit of room,

you can move around but it is not that big of a volume. it is like you are in a small closet or something like that. when you open the hatch, you are in this unite 477. that could be disoriented and you are floating for r tthe fir time. my first mission, i had the first headache in my life and took a lot of ibuprofen and then it is like a light switch going on. when i went back four years later, i remembered. on my second flight i didn't have any trouble at all. there is something in your brain, some neurons getting rewired but it takes a few days. everybody has some types of headaches. it is not a lot of fun the first couple of days. >> that's fascinating that you went back and totally fine because your brain remembered. >> i was wondering that. >> that's antidote talally your

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at the top of the hour now, i am pamela brown. you are watching a special edition of "cnn newsroom." 13 consecutive days of 100,000 plus new cases. the white house is arguing against science and one adviser had a shocking street that michigan should rise up its governor and her new covid restrictions. the former president barack obama says republicans are leading the country down a dangerous path by letting the current president play out his 2020 scharades. spacex lifts off for a history making trip, one heck of a