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top of the hour, hello to viewers in the united states and around the world. john king in washington. thank you for sharing your day with us. a new warning from dr. fauci, vaccines can get the country out of the pandemic but not right now. >> there's light at the end of the tunnel. help is on the way. a vaccine should not help you make a decision, we will have a vaccine so we don't have to do anything else. the fact we have a vaccine means hang in there, help is on the way, which would motivate us to do even better with public
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health measures. >> americans celebrate thanksgiving next week, sitting around the table with loved wunlz is a tradition, would be more welcome after months of covid distancing. science says don't, or scale back because it is too risky. new numbers leave no doubt. daily case average is 155,000 infections per day. the united states racked up nearing 1.1 million cases in just the last seven days. maybe most troubling, hospitalizations across the country, you see the map there, hitting record levels. 73,000 patients hospitalized monday. emergency room staff around the country will soon be overwhelmed if not already. and rise in infections guarantees that number indeed will climb. new weekly report from the white house coronavirus task force says there's zero evidence things are getting better, and
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the u.s. is battling, quote, aggressive, unrelenting, expanding broad community spread. most communities are talking like dr. fauci, asking you to be extra careful and for a few more months until vaccines are available. president trump's attention still today on a web of conspiracy theories about the election outcome. the popular vote is tilting overwhelmingly, 5 million votes in joe biden's favor. the president still refuses to authorize transition cooperation. ten days lost and counting bringing the team up to speed like on the coronavirus vaccine. >> people may day. they say they have this program that not only dealt with vaccines with how to distribute this. if we have to wait until january
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20th to start that planning, it puts us behind, over a month, month and a half. >> take a closer look at the numbers. they are again sad. you look at the state trend map. orange and red are bad. you see deep red here from the midwest to new england and the northeast. that's 50% more covid infections than a week ago. 50% or higher. orange is also trending the wrong direction. 45 of 50 states on this day reporting more new covid infections than a week ago. that's a trend line decidedly the wrong direction. look at the daily, horrible to look at, that's straight up. we started this in the spring, summer surge we thought was horrific, came down, now shooting straight up. monday. 166,000 cases. 14 straight days of over 100,000 new cases a day across the united states. if you look at the cumulative cases from the beginning, see how steep the hill is getting,
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more than a million cases added in a week. in seven days. the amount is continuing to climb. sadly with that, you see the blue line is the death trend, trickling up as well. 995 americans lost to coronavirus yesterday. you see the trend line heading up. most experts think 1500 a day is in the near future. we hope they're wrong, trend lines seem to suggest they're not. same with hospitalizations. we hit about 60,000 first time up the hill, summer surge, now blown past that. setting records every day. seven straight days, week in a row. every day this week, hospitalization records across the united states. this is why. you look at the positivity map here and deeper the blue, darker the map, the shade, worse it is. 23% in missouri. 52% positivity in iowa. think you're not beating that. 57% in south dakota. 63% in wyoming. and so on.
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people are testing positive and many people are then spreading it in the communities. top five states in terms of positivity, kansas, iowa, south dakota, wyoming, idaho, midwest, upper midwest in mountains and plains, 50% or higher in those states. you have a challenge today. also an incoming administration in 60 days, trying to get a handle. they will inherit this, biden team will inherit this. experts in the government, president says i am not cooperating, i am not ready, experts that know the government say please, quickly. >> i have not had contact with the president, with the vice president biden, no, i have not. >> lives are at stake here. if we miss this opportunity to coordinate now, we can experience hiccups or delays that we don't need to see. americans deserve smooth transition to make sure to save their lives from the pandemic. >> joining us to discuss the
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moment, abby phillip and kaitlan collins. i go through the numbers every day, they depress me. it is a sad statement. we don't hear from the president about them at all. we hear from dr. fauci. we read some excerpts from the coronavirus task force report from the white house, talking how dire the situation is. kevin liptech, this is part of his report. trump demonstrated little interest in adding more to his schedule. people familiar with the matter said. few aides raised the idea because of his dark mood and preoccupation with his loss. he is spending mornings watching television, arriving in the oval office in the evening. he goes between the office and dining room, equipped with large televisions, newspapers and magazines are strewn across the table. we know he likes to watch things that tell him he is great. is he paying attention to the idea, he is still president for two months, and the country is in a ditch. >> and that's the concern, that he's just checked out of this, not paying attention as much.
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he did provide the update on operation warp speed friday, but you saw the way he was talking, heavily implying pfizer waited to release data until after the election, arguing it was political, even though that time line followed what medical experts said all along is when we would likely get information. what's notable about the president's schedule and the fact he had nothing besides lunches and a few meetings on the public facing schedule released to reporters, he is staying in the oval office later than he did before the election and before he was on the road for several weeks. last night he was in the oval office until about 8:00. we know, we get told when he goes to the residence. he is in the west wing but has nothing on the public schedule, not attending coronavirus task force meetings, he hasn't attended in several months, so that's really been the question as you see him try to take hard charging moves, see the "new york times" reporting about the strike in iran, talked about
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troop draw down overseas, the president is expected to order. he is making moves we kind of expected but also not filling his schedule with a lot of meetings or trying to end the last two months on a strong note of look at all the work i am doing. it has really been where the president is venting to aides, paying close attention to lawsuits and what's happening with those across the united states, having those conversations instead of ones you see in day to day governing activities. >> and instead, abby phillip, what we see from the president is constantly questioning election results. again, the president has every right to go into court anywhere in america and make his case if he has evidence. the problem is time and time again, state after state after state, i could go on, they were turned away, they don't have any evidence of massive fraud. may have a vote here or there, nothing that would overturn the election. now we are learning among the things that senator lindsey graham is calling around. listen to georgia secretary of state, republican secretary of state who i saw earlier on air,
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rightly pointed out, said repeatedly wants trump to win, said repeatedly wants republican senate candidates to win. results show joe biden is winning, secretary of state is counting votes, said he got a curious call from senator graham. listen. >> i asked if the ballots could be matched back to voters and i got the sense it implied that then you could throw those out, look at the counties with the highest frequent error signatures. just an implication look hard, see how many ballots you can throw out. >> senator graham, i will read it, to be fair to him, if secretary of state feels threatened by that conversation, he's got a problem. i actually thought it was a good conversation. we are learning today moments ago after a hearing senator graham said he has also spoken to the governor of arizona and election officials in nevada about election integrity. he is chairman of the judiciary committee. he has every right to have questions about these issues.
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however, it is timing. let the states finish their work. then if you have questions, call them in or bring them to an official hearing if you have questions about them. am i wrong here? the president's friend, lindsey graham, who happens to be chairman, checking in during a sensitive time in the process. >> checking in specifically with republican officials in those states that the president would need to overturn the results of in order to get to 270 electoral votes. arizona's republican governor and nevada's republican secretary of state and georgia's republican secretary of state getting calls from lindsey graham, but john, you're right. sure, lindsey graham might have some standing potentially as the judiciary committee chairman to ask questions about issues if there were issues. the problem is that we have not gotten evidence of any specific claims of widespread voter fraud in any of those seats, that's the underlying problem here.
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sure, if there were actual problems on the table, an investigation into the problems would absolutely be warranted. it seems lindsey graham is fishing for officials to find problems where last i checked, it has been two weeks since voters went to the polls in the united states and we have yet to come up with any evidence of widespread fraud which is why all these cases, unfortunately all these cases there have been no results that have actually overturned enough votes that it would change the outcome of the election. again, we're not talking about a handful of votes here or there, talking about tens of thousands. may maybe hundreds of thousands. >> if you flip georgia, arizona, alabama, that's not enough. they would need pennsylvania with it. rudy giuliani is heading -- you
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mentioned at the top, how is the press spending time. every president on the way out has opportunity of a couple more months in office to do a few more things. he has every right to do his job. joe biden recognizes that, one president at a time. president trump asked senior advisers in an oval office meeting thursday whether he had option toss take options against iran's nuclear site. the meetings after international inspectors reported increase in stockpile of nuclear material. four current and former officials said monday. he is commander in chief until noon, january 20th. that's an ominous meeting. what are people saying about it? >> they're not surprised by it, of course, that the president wanted to explore those options. ultimate decision according to "new york times" in the reporting is that advisers convinced the president not to follow through. whether or not that maintains to be the case until january is another question. of course, remember it was just a year ago almost that many
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solomon ee was killed while he was at his mar-a-lago club. it is to be determined. the argument was these are closing days of your time in office, one of the biggest accomplishments is you didn't get involved in any more entanglements in the middle east. that's something the president can hang his hat on. the question is what other implications do decisions the president makes in the next 60 days have on the biden administration, and with troop draw down, waiting for the formal order to come down from the president, that is something that would be significant. last night, h.r. mcmaster, second national security adviser after mike flynn, said he believed it was a risk for the president to do that. he was talking about labels or levels they were at in the middle east with troop levels now. he said he believed it was a sustainable level and said the chance the president is taking by following through with troop draw downs could have lasting effects and that could come in
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years of the biden administration or after that. those are decisions we are watching closely. the president is making decisions, a lot of moves he is making are ones he may have made even if he won the election, firing the defense secretary was one, considering firing the cia director was another. we know in october he was tweeting, seemed to be trying to get people to vote about troop draw down levels. we have to see what he does in the next 60 days. aides say don't expect it to be a quiet period. >> kaitlan collins at the white house. abby phillip, appreciate the reporting. when we come back, coronavirus vaccine is coming, but it is a difficult couple months ahead before it does.
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insights, paul often and the chief of infectious disease. i want to start with the urgency of the moment. people hear vaccines are coming, the fear is they will let down their guard. this is from the coronavirus task force. you don't hear from the president himself. he is silent on the issue. there's now aggressive, unrelenting, expanding community spread, reaching most counties, without evidence of improvement, but rather further deterioration. current mitigation efforts are inadequate, must be increased to flatten the curve. i read these all the time when they come out. they're routinely depressing. i don't think i read one this straight from the coronavirus task force as grave as that. >> good afternoon, john. i think we have a lot ahead not just in distribution but controlling the pandemic. this vaccine won't get us out of a problem as massive as the one
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we have. while we may have a potent vaccine, may have two, we need to be in a place in this country where we are able to distribute and deploy it and where we are effectively tampering down a pandemic, rather than trying to display it in the midst of a wildfire. >> as we try to deal with the wildfire, we have this hope. first pfizer, now moderna saying vaccine candidates demonstrated in trialed high efficacy. listen to dr. rick bright who was involved in the vaccine efforts, he left the trump administration in a dispute, was a whistle-blower and left. now he is advising the president-elect's team. he talks about how data is encouraging but still has some questions. >> it is all in the data, it really is in the data that we need to see that efficacy for
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all people. right now, we have early interim data that we are hearing about, that could be in the same population of people. we need to make sure the information that we see and data we see showed the vaccine is safe and effective in all people, in all populations. >> this is part of the work on the advisory committee. explain to a general audience what rick bright is talking about, what are your big questions about it looks good, but -- >> we haven't seen the data yet. wh what we have seen is two press releases where they said that's part of the data they want us to see. fact of the matter is, by the time they both submit to the fda, they'll probably have 160 or 165 people in trials who have gotten ill which was the primary objective. honestly, to take a step back, we had the virus in hand january of this year, we knew the genome
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in january this year. in november, 11 months later, have two large clinical trials, using this particular technology, messenger rna technology where you introduce the gene into the cell that coats the protein, and you have what appears to be pretty dramatic results. dr. bright is right. we need to look at the details of the studies. if you had asked any scientist in this country whether we would be where we are now 11 months from now, i don't think you would have gotten one that would thought we would be here. we have a lot of reason for hope. r rochelle is right, this is another tool against the virus. it won't make it magically go away, but it is enormously encouraging. >> if it is another tool coming and encouraging, good to hear that, your value has been to tell everybody to calm down, be cautious, good to hear you optimistic, doctor, the
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challenge is to convince the american people. first deal with the crisis, stay safe, don't let down your guard, now there's an issue whether people will trust it, precovid and accelerated during covid. here's dr. fauci on that on the urgency that must now happen. >> we've got to do outreach, we've got to be transparent. we've got to get public health issues out of the realm of political divisiveness. this is not a political issue. if one element of the country or multiple elements of the country don't cooperate with an infectious disease, we're going to continue to be in trouble. >> this is your wheel house, chief of infectious disease. explain what he means if people decide i am not playing, i am not participating, i don't trust the vaccine. what happens? >> yeah. i think there are two other major pieces of the puzzle. we needed an effective vaccine and we got two quickly which is
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incredible. what we also need is coverage, a lot of coverage. we need people to want to take the vaccine and you need all of them together. in terms of how is this going to make a difference, it will make a difference when you have investment in public health. investments investment of the vaccine operation warp speed have been on the context of billions, and also in the context of millions. we really need more infrastructure to be able to build it out. >> and doctor, one of the questions for the new team, "the wall street journal" raises one today. you have a trump administration, they had mistakes in the coronavirus rollout, some said hydroxychloroquine is an example of political influence rushing something for emergency authorization use. other drugs have been helpful, remdesivir and others. they raise the questions, there's serious risk the biden
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team will reimpose a culture of bureaucratic control that restricts medical advances. do you believe with the president-elect teams, are the right conversations happening that here's where we want to stick to the old way, here are things we learned in the process about speeding things up and being less bureaucratic, more innovative, entrepreneurial? >> yes. we learned a lot in this. fact of the matter is when you submit as companies, pfizer and moderna will submit data to the fda for what would be emergency use authorization, average time to get a license is ten months. if you have expedited review, six months. that's not going to happen here under this administration, or the next. this will be done quickly. i'm sure by beginning of december, we are going to be sitting down to look at the data from two vaccines and then it is going to the cdc advisory committee for immunization practice. and then very quickly will be rolling out into the arms of the american public.
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we learned a lot about how we can move quickly, and really, the administration has to be praised at some level, being able and willing to spend the money to basically take the risk out for pharmaceutical companies paying for phase three trials that cost hundreds of millions and paying for mass production that's hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. i think what has happened has taught us how quickly and efficiently we can do something. reminds me of the polio program in the 1950s where that was warp speed one, five companies made vaccines, and that's what happened here. it is a testament to american will and know how. wish we could apply the same to the hygienic measures as we do for the vaccine. >> i hope the new team learns from both the bad and good of the trump administration response. grateful for your time and insights. up next, for republicans in limbo, internal clashes and what it means for the party's support of president trump.
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new developments in a curious story, senator lindsey graham, senate of the senate judiciary committee, close friend of the president of the united states, acknowledges he made phone calls to several states where the trump campaign is alleging there are election improprieties. trump campaign has no proof of that, but the president's team is alleging impropriety in
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georgia. he said yes, he made phone calls to the states. says he is doing nothing wrong. bring in manu raju and scott jennings. manu, you had time with senator graham, what did he say? >> he is defending the call, saying there's nothing improper what he is doing, even though he is senate judiciary committee chairman. he said this call was polite, even though the secretary of state from georgia believed there was implicit urging of him to get rid of legally cast ballots that came by mail. lindsey graham is arguing he wanted to understand the process, revealed something new moments ago, john, he suggested he wanted to push georgia secretary of state to toughen voter identification rules, signature verification for mail-in ballots ahead of senate
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runoffs that will determine the majority come january. >> that wasn't the purpose of the conversation. talking ballots, the election hasn't been had, the senate race. that was my focus. how you verify signatures. we have a new senate race coming up, anything we can do to make it better. >> you're concerned about senate races more so -- >> i mean, they have to process. you can't change the law retroactively. there's no way to do that. whatever system was in place for the president's election, the conversation was about the senate race. >> this is a surprising intervention into senate races that could determine the majority. here's the chairman of a powerful committee reaching out to a top election official who administer what could be close elections, two runoff races come january to try to ensure mail-in voting is done, stricter standards for mail-in voting
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come january. democrats succeeded in mail-in voting throughout the country, including in georgia. joe biden is on his way to carrying georgia. lot of questions about lindsey graham's role. he defends that it is perfectly normal. he revealed in addition to reaching out to georgia, he called election officials in nevada and talked to the governor of arizona. those are states joe biden is projected to win. he is reaching out to officials across the country, raising concerns what he is up to here at this critical moment as the president's team is trying to find evidence of fraud, so far have not been able to change what looks like the outcome here that joe biden will be the president, john. >> manu, stay with us. scott jennings, help me. forgive me, i am not a lawyer. if i were in court on this, senator graham says this is about senate races. number one, start with this. secretary of state in georgia says no, it wasn't. listen. >> i asked if the ballots could be matched back to voters and i
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got the sense, implied then you could throw those out. you look at the counties with the highest frequent error of signatures. just an implication that look hard, see how many ballots you can throw out. >> so the current republican secretary of state in georgia says it seemed to him it was about the ongoing recount and hand on it, not about what's going to happen in january, number one. to manu's point, he calls the governor of arizona election officials in nevada. if he is concerned about two senate runoffs in georgia, why is he calling arizona and nevada? as bill clinton might say, that dog don't hunt. >> charitable way is he was calling in georgia, the two guys had a misunderstanding, nothing untoward. the reality is republicans have always resisted the federalization of the election
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system. we don't want the federal government interfering with the way we run elections in states and locals. so the idea you would have u.s. senators from other states calling into the secretary of state or some other local elections administrator and talking to them is a little foreign to the republican viewpoint. >> at this interesting moment, want to change the subject a bit. at the interesting moment, mitch mcconnell, the leader, scott knows well, you know from reporting, tried to say the president has every opportunity to pursue legal avenues. mitch mcconnell knows the math. but they're saying be careful, mr. president, you're in office two months, make wise decisions. do not pull all troops out of afghanistan at this delicate moment. >> rapid withdrawal of u.s. forces from afghanistan now would hurt our allies and delight, delight the people who wish us harm.
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the consequences of premature american exit would likely be even worse than president obama's withdrawal from iraq back in 2011 which fueled, fueled the rise of isis and new round of global terrorism. >> the leader went to the floor after the president fired secretary esper, made clear that wasn't a good idea. does he think the president i will listen? >> it is unclear, in that carefully worded floor speech while he was critical of policy, john, he didn't call president trump out by name, in fact praised some of trump's past decisions but didn't criticize trump for moving ahead with troop withdrawal from afghanistan, raised concerns about consequences of the action. while mcconnell has a powerful voice, republicans are not all on the same page. jim inhofe told me he spoke with chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, mark milley, said he was in favor of this, and inclined
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to support this idea of going ahead. with division within the republican party, president trump seems like he's going full steam ahead. that could hamstring the new administration on their afghanistan policy when they take over in january, john. >> manu raju, scott jennings, grateful for the time. interesting time as we move forward. still ahead, covid hospitalizations reach an all-time high, more states deciding to announce new restrictions. >> tech: every customer has their own safelite story. this couple was on a camping trip... ...when their windshield got a chip. they drove to safelite for a same-day repair.
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announced restrictions, iowa, new jersey, oklahoma, california, mississippi. city of philadelphia revealing safer at home plan monday that includes prohibiting all indoor gatherings beginning friday. missouri's positivity rate and rise in hospitalizations spurring kansas city to join a growing list of cities and communities imposing new restrictions. with us, kansas city mayor, clinton lucas. i wish we were speaking under better circumstances. you decided indoor gatherings are restricted, limited to ten people. 10:00 p.m. closing for restaurants and bars, 50% maximum capacity in gyms, masks are required. how dire is the situation and do you need to do more if metrics don't change soon. >> short answer is yes, we need to do more, if measures aren't successful, and the situation is very dire. many of us in the midwest looked at what happened in the midwest in the spring, had concerns.
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had full shutdowns. many of us may have opened too quickly. we are dealing with repercussions of that now, high death rates, infection, et cetera, create more concerns in this area, and things that continue to get worse as weather has gotten colder, as people are inside more, certainly as we get closer to thanksgiving holiday. >> we watched this for eight months, different states. different cities, different mayors, to do things, sometimes successful, sometimes limited in effectiveness because you have neighbors. in your case, you have neighbors in another state, also have the rest of the states east of you. the hospitalization association, herb kune, president of the hospital association wrote to the governor. the wolf is at the door. they urge you to issue a statewide mask mandate. it may be unappealing to some but it has become necessary. do you believe in the mask mandate, what you can do in the
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city is limited without statewide help? >> absolutely, yes. i will never shirk my responsibility but there's a significant challenge for those of us trying to make a difference in our states but surrounded, bore ddered by couns not issuing mask mandates and the seriousness of covid-19 isn't there. and it is frustrating, distressing. kansas city, we are dealing with folks coming from rural missouri hospitals who are seeking treatment, we'll continue to provide that treatment in the city, but has to be something that gives. that is both reductions in capacity, seriousness about masks and solutions to limit spread, right now in too many states, including missouri and kansas, fair to say we're not doing enough. >> wondering at this delicate moment, president trump refused to open transition cooperation, even on the virus.
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is there any outreach from team biden to mayors directly or indirectly to try to compare some notes when they take office in 60 days are ready to help on day one? >> there's some. a lot of communication came shortly after the election. we probably need to do more communicating as time goes on. i understand the president-elect and their team's frustration. sometimes mayors asked for more information about spikes in our areas. i was on a call months ago asking for more information, didn't necessarily receive it. what i would encourage is given the challenges we have now, share whatever information we can have possible, including vaccine details, what the rollout will look like over time, and some further information on how further shutdowns might be needed. we have a moment of crisis, everybody is in a disjointed manner for how to respond. as a mayor, i will continue to
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step up, do what i can to keep people safe. a lot of that requires greater coordination and i think we are lacking on that now, and that's leading to more public health harm in our communities. >> mayor, kansas city, thanks so much. we'll circle back, see how you're doing. >> thank you. up next, joe biden adds to senior white house team. keeping your oysters business growing has you swamped. you need to hire. i need indeed indeed you do. the moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a shortlist of quality candidates from a resume data base claim your seventy-five-dollar credit when you post your first job at indeed.com/promo
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president-elect biden filling white house roles, including a rising star among democrats. cedric richmond was national co-chair of the biden presidential campaign. discussed plans to shift to a new white house role this morning. >> this new role will allow me to offer advice to the president when he wants it, maybe sometimes when he doesn't want it. will also be an office in the west wing. and when you talk about the needs of louisiana, you want someone in the west wing. >> richmond is joining a senior white house team, you see the faces there, including ron klain as chief of staff, biden campaign manager, mali millennial. jeff, is an experienced team trying to build a diverse team,
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put the pieces together, what's your big assessment? >> john, it is a bit of both. not a surprise so far. top people surrounding the president-elect in the west wing are the people that brought him to this dance, people that were leaders of this campaign. general mali dillon, first woman to run, she will be expect chief of staff. that's a very important job in charge of operations and other matters. also some of the two of the longest standing advisers have been with him a long time, they'll be steps away from the oval office. cedric richmond, very important, he will be a bridge to the house of representatives and other external groups, essential for progress this president hopes to make. the house majority, shrinking on the democratic side, he will be critical to that. you can see the diverse lineup there of other folks, general
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counsel as well as advisers to dr. jill biden. certainly this is the beginning of the west wing advisers, certainly not the end. we will wait and see who is the press secretary, but cabinet announcements are more important. those will not come until after thanksgiving. >> as you know full well, every time you fill a job, the competition for remaining jobs gets more intense. that's what happens in days ahead. jeff zeleny, appreciate that important reporting. still ahead, 87-year-old senator chuck grassley quarantining after a coronavirus exposure. when i was in high school, this was the theater i came to quite often. the support we've had over the last few months has been amazing. it's not just a work environment. everyone here is family. if you are ready to open your heart and your home, check us out. we thought for sure that we were done. and this town said: not today. ♪
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senator chuck grassly in quarantine after being exposed to covid-19. he learned of the exposure this morning. grassley is waiting on test results and is not currently experiencing any symptoms. the 87-year-old serves as president pro tem in the senate, third in the line of presidential succession, after the vice president and speaker of the house. grassley was at the senate yesterday in proceedings, talking with members down on the floor. there's a big vote today, and if he can't make it, it will be senator grassley's first missed vote since 1993. we certainly wish senator grassley well as he goes through it. a shame if that streak has to come to an end. thanks for spending time with us. brianna keilar picks up coverage right now. have a good afternoon.
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hello, i am brianna keilar. i want to welcome viewers in theist and around the world. we entered the disaster zone of the coronavirus pandemic. the country is averaging more than 155,000 new infections a day and climbing. mon monday alone, 166,000 plus new cases with 995 deaths. that's 995 people who are gone when they didn't have to die. the death count is going to increase. positivity rates we are seeing will ensure that. more than 10% of coronavirus tests nationwide are coming back positive, a level we haven't seen since may. yet 301 days since the first u.s. case was reported, and there was still no nationally coordinated plan. the president has given up. he is not governing. his white house task force with whom he hasn't met for five months has increased urgency in weekly reports to
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