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blame little jon or meatloaf. you fired gary busey. and these are the kind of decisions that would keep me up at night. this is cnn breaking news. >> hello and welcome to our viewers here in the united states and all around the world. i'm robyn curnow. we are following this breaking news in the election. the state of georgia will, once again, recount the presidential ballots as the trump campaign requested, on saturday. now, recounts are allowed when the margin of victory is less than .5%, as it was for joe biden. now, the state already did an audit of the presidential vote. so, that will be the third time around, at taxpayer expense. the biden cam papaign says the
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recount will show, yet again, that biden won the state. also, no reason to believe widespread fraud, there's no evidence to back up their baseless claims. now, things did not go president trump's way in the state of pennsylvania on saturday. justice correspondent, jessica snyder, has that story. jessica. >> a federal judge in pennsylvania, completely tearing apart the trump-legal strategy that was spearheaded by rudy giuliani. the federal judge in pennsylvania, matthew bran, he is a longtime republican. president obama appointee, however. but he called this latest case that he has dismissed like frankenstein's monster, haphazard haphazardly stitched together. matthew bran tearing apart claims by the trump team that they wanted to invalidate the vote in pen pnsylvania and thro out nearly 7 million votes. the judge said, one might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with
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compelling arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption. that has not happened. instead, this court has been presented with strained legal arguments, without merit. and unsupported by evidence. now, this judge was skeptical during the hearing but he completely tore the trump legal arguments apart. and now, this was really the last, remaining case in a crucial, swing state that could potentially have affected any votes. really, at this point, the trump legal team strategy is crumbling before our eyes. even despite the fact that, on saturday, more lawsuits were filed looking to invalidate the vote and stop the certification. the certification is set to happen in pennsylvania on monday. it is also set for monday in michigan. and that's where something else is playing out. where the trump team has sort of shifted from a legal strategy to a political-pressure campaign.
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they are putting pressure on some of the republican, political leaders there. and now, there is concern that with the state board of canvassers, meeting on monday, at 1:00 p.m. that, they could actually deadlock. it is a four-member board. two republicans. two democrats. if there is a 2-2 split, this could actually end up in the courts. or the governor of michigan, gretchen whitmer, she could step in to replace, maybe, those noncompliant board members. so, there is a lot at stake in the coming days. but it could be game over when these votes are certified in the coming days. and that really could be the end for the trump team. jessica schneider, cnn, washington. >> thanks, jessica, for that. let's go to law professor at the university of southern california and a cnn election law analyst. great to see you. so, i want to talk about this breaking news. hi. that georgia will do another recount, the third.
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of course, cnn's headquarters are in georgia. asking how many times do you have to count the vote? so is this a formality? >> it's a formality. so when you have a vote as close as it was in georgia so if it's less than one half of a percent, the trump campaign can request a recount which just they rescan the ballots. so let me just emphasize, recounts rarely change the outcome of an election. you may see a shift of a couple hundred votes, maybe. so there's really no concern this will change. this is really just a formality. >> you heard jessica lay out what's been playing out this week, and what might be coming in the week ahead. what is the timeline? and do any of this -- does any of this delay the transition, for example? >> so, let's be clear about what's going on, in part, in thinking about in this timeline question. because the president's attempts to -- excuse me -- change the outcome of the election over the
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last couple weeks has really been a series of hail marys. so, his legal strategy is nonexistent, at this point. so, it's really difficult to see any delay of certification deadlines in key states. the electors will meet and vote in mid-december, right? it's really hard to see anything happening prior to mid-december when the electors meet that would delay the timeline. the legal strategy's been largely unsuccessful, up to this point. even though, there were lawsuits filed today in pennsylvania seeking to challenge the ballot system. this is not the type of litigation you bring now. so it's likely to be unsuccessful. so even though the president will continue to sue. he's been very litigious. it's unlikely to change. >> yeah. i'm sure many americans will be comforted to hear that. normally, certifying results is a pretty-pedestrian process. we now see it, of course, being politicized, pressurized, even. how confident are you in the statements and the pushback
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coming from the states and the court? >> so, i'm still pretty confident. you know, in most presidential-election cycles, people pay attention on election night. networks call various states. we usually know. we knew that there would be counting well after election day and that it may be a few days before we knew who the president will be. but even in that scenario, i don't think anyone quite expected certification to become quite as politicized as it has. but even then, in michigan, for example, the state canvassing board deadlocks. the michigan governor can step in so that certification proceeds. and so, i don't anticipate there will be any changes that will change the outcome of this election. so the president has lost by about 6 million votes, about. he is looking to overturn the votes of the american people without any evidence of fraud. is there any other scenario, in
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recent memory, that has ever gone down this road? >> no. so, i know that there has been some comparisons to 2000. and that has, you know, caused become, to a certain extent but 2000 was different. we are talking a very close margin, 547 votes. we weren't talking thousands of votes between the two candidates in multiple states, right? we have a pretty clear, conclusive winner here and i think it's important to emphasize that because with all of the litigation, all of the political strategy, and all of the attempts to overturn the election, it also invites compa comparisons to prior elections. no way. just not the same. even 1876, where we were facing the pr prospect of dueling inaugurations. it was nothing like you have now, where you -- you -- you
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have a president-elect who won by 6 million votes. >> frenita tollson, thank you so much and giving all your expertise. thank you. >> thank you. take care. >> you too. and then, more breaking news. yet another, prominent republican tested positive for coronavirus. kelly loeffler of georgia is in the midst of a heated runoff election that could determine the balance of power in the u.s. senate. she tested on friday. another test on saturday came back as inconclusive. she was with vice president mike pence at a campaign event, many campaign events, on friday. along with senator from georgia, david perdue. she does not have symptoms and is quarantining until one way or the other. no word, yet, if mr. pence or mr. perdue will also do the same. >> coming up on cnn. just as holiday traveling is
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a troubling marker for the country worst hit by the coronavirus pandemic. the u.s. is now spur passiurpas than 12 million cases saturday. that's according to johns hopkins university. remember, it hit 11 million cases just last sunday. so, no other country, anywhere, has that many confirmed cases. many states shattering daily records and the nation, as a whole, has seen more than 100,000 new cases a day for 19-straight days. making matters worse, it's just four days before thanksgiving. you know that. millions of people often travel to see loved ones, and many are continuing to do that, as you can see from these images. now, the cdc is urging them to
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stay at home and celebrate the holiday with a virtual gathering but that advice is certainly falling on deaf ears for many, many americans. now, you don't hear much about any of this from the president, doen trnld tru donald trump. golfing and spreading baseless election theories. dr. celine gounder joins me now. she is a member of the biden-transition covid-advisory board. doctor, congratulations on your new role. the numbers are overwhelming. as you look ahead to what needs to be done in january, when the biden administration takes office. what is the one thing you think needs to be done? >> well, i think the one thang that needs to be done and to be done now and not wait until january 20th. which is too pass a stimulus
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package. to help people with the economic pain and social pain of the pandemic. that support is about turnout. and it's really hard to ask people to abide by public-health interventions/restrictions when they may not see the impact on their own lives. maybe, you're young, 20 something, relatively low risk for severe disease. we need to be addressing their concerns as well and that starts with a stimulus package. unfortunately, mcconnell, senate majority leader, in congress, has been holding up that bill. but that needs to be done now and not wait until january 20th. >> long lines. not a lot of social distancing. and also, not a lot of listening to folks perhaps just stay at home this year. we know there is christmas and delayed effects of these will
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hit just as biden takes office in mid-january. how concerned are you of images like in? >> i'm really, really worried because many hospitals across the country are already. and this is essentially pouring gasoline on a fire. what's already exponential spread of the virus, even worse. and so, we are going to see hospitals overrun for too long and this is precisely going to hit when a lot of their doctors and nurses on holiday, themselves. so we have a skeleton crew in the hospital. and i, myself, am going to be in the hospital working over new year's. i am very concerned about the fact that we will be extremely understaffed, at that time. >> we, also, saw today, the
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president playing golf while world leaders meet at the g20. what message did that send? >> to me, that is turning your back on the american people. he has not been a leader throughout this entire pandemic. has not risen to the occasion to unite the american people against a common threat. and this is really more, you could say, business as ursual forethis administration which is not to provide leadership in a crisis. >> are you able to work around limits being placed by the administration? can you formally work with some of the outgoing members of his covid team? any reach out to you to create some sort of transition on the covid plans? >> well, we have actually been -- not to try to back channel. the team wants to do everything
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above board. what we can do is work with other stakeholders, outside the federal government. so, that includes working with sate and loc state and local governments. whether that be pharmaceutical or big pharmacy chains who will be helping us with distribution of vaccines and therapeutics. but it's trying to patch through piecemeal information when, really, this should be done in a way with the current administration. >> so what does it make you feel to know that you literally aring go to be going in cold in january? >> i mean, this is a serious indiana-jones kind of move that we are being asked to make in the middle of a national, global crisis. this is really scary. we are going to do our best. we are experts in our fields. you know, all of us on the -- on the advisory board have dealt
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with these kinds of crises in the past. but this -- the kind of obstruction that we are dealing with is really unpress dentded, and is really quite frightening. >> does there need to be a national response? i know this has been asked by you a number of times. both blue and red states, struggling for various reason. how do you coordinate and be consistent? because that seems to be some of the real problems in terms of the way america's dealt with this. >> some of that will continue, regardless who is in the white house because that is our system of government. we are a federalist system, so you are going to have ditfferen approaches, from state to state. common leadership. common guidance. something that's unifying. and that parts, frankly, with empowering the cdc. to be leading communication to the public. they are the premiere public
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health institution in the world and had been sidelined in this pandemic. >> dr. gounder, thank you so much for joining us. good luck. >> thank you. we'll need it. >> health officials are trying to urge americans to not travel for the holiday. even countries that don't celebrate are urging people to stay home. covid cases are not jurist surgg here in the u.s. but all over. we will show you that next. it's the black friday sale. find stylish gifts for all the diamonds in your life, including you. get 30-50% off everything. and find deals like this 10 carat diamond bracelet
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. a passenger ferry with over 400 people on board has run aground. the ferry got stuck in strong winds and stormy waves beating the "ms viking grace" against the shoreline. the coast guard tells us the hull isn't taking on water or leaking fuel for now and there will soon be an evacuation. covid-19 cases aren't just soaring in the u.s. but worldwide. we're approaching the 60 million mark. you might remember we had 50 million just two weeks ago. anna stewart shows us how some countries are handling this. >> reporter: going home for the
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holidays. it's what the cdc advises against this thanksgiving. crowded airports, people mingling from different households. it's a perfect way for a virus to travel, too. but the warning isn't enough to ground some passengers. >> planes are safe. they sanitize everything. you've got to live your life, at the end of the day. >> reporter: but in many places the concern is saving lives. as many governments reimpose restrictions and coronavirus cases reach alarming levels. on monday, toronto, canada's most populous city, will go on lockdown for nearly a month. that means outdoor gatherings will be limited to 10 people. restaurants, curbside or delivery only. grocery stores can only operate at half capacity. canadian prime minister justin trudeau appealed for people to stay at home. >> if you were planning to see friends this weekend, maybe don't. there was a birthday party or a gathering for dinner you were
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thinking about doing? don't do it. >> reporter: a similar message in iran where the deputy health minister says family gatherings are the main cause of infections. the country recently closed nonessential businesses in 160 towns and cities. but some residents say people will continue to gather. >> translator: no matter how much the government imposes restrictions, people do not comply. it's useless. >> reporter: in new delhi, india, not complying comes with a cost. the government has increased fines there for those who don't wear masks. cases in brazil are once again on the rise, passing the 6 million mark after infections steadily declined since their peak in the summer. officials say the surge is fueled by people out and about. in some cities, packing into public places at pre-pandemic
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levels. russian president vladimir putin said he will supply the sputnik 5 vaccine to countries that need it. that hope perhaps too far down the road with the wave of infections sweeping the world right now. anna stewart, cnn, london. thanks for watching. i'm robyn curnow here in atlanta. "cnn newsroom" continues for viewers in the u.s. for international viewers, stay tuned for "living golf." at t-mobile, we believe you should get more. that's why we've merged with sprint. now it's about to get even better. and as we work to integrate sprint's network, our nationwide 5g keeps getting stronger. with the capacity and coverage to reach more people and places across the country. who says you can't have it all. now is the time for 5g. now is the time to join t-mobile.
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georgia will recount the votes yet again and for the 30th time the trump election challenge goes nowhere in court. covid impacting the georgia runoffs. one candidate tested positive 24 hours after standing maskless on a stage with vice president mike pence. 12 million coronavirus cases in the u.s., people getting sick at an alarmingly quick rate. welcome to cnn, i'm robyn curnow.

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