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as the u.s. heads into thanksgiving week, good news about vaccines, but very bad news about infections. >> the safest way to celebrate thanksgiving this year is at home with the people you live with. >> a million new cases just this week. >> so this is faster. it's broader. and what worries me, it could be longer. >> and two big setbacks for president trump in his quest to undo the election results. >> i won, by the way, but we'll find that out. almost 74 million votes. >> he'll go down in history as one of the most irresponsible
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presidents. >> plus will the holiday season bring much-needed economic relief? >> i'm optimistic we'll have bipartisanship to put something together to go forward. >> to our viewers in the united states and around the world, welcome to inside politics. i'm dana bash. john king is off today. the united states is in the midst of a pandemic third wave. for a second straight week the country added a million new cases. and passed a grim milestone at a quarter of a million deaths. the news touched the white house with donald trump's oldest son becoming the latest in his orbit to test positive for coronavirus. but the president is focussed on assaulting the results of an election lost. taking the staff and calling election officials in wayne county, michigan and inviting michigan state lawmakers to the white house in an apparent attempt to defy their state's voters and select electors who
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would back trump. the president tweeting during the g-20 summit with world leaders yesterday. as for joe biden, he had his toughest words yet for the man he beat. >> let me choose my words here. i think they're witnessing incredible irresponsibility. incredibly damaging messages being sent to the rest of the world about how democracy functions, and i think it is -- well, i don't know his motive, but i think it's irresponsible. >> trump's attempts to change his loss to a win hit several dead ends this week. first from georgia. >> like other republicans, i'm disappointed our candidate didn't win georgia's electoral votes. working as an engineer
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throughout my life, i live by the motto that numbers don't lie. >> last night the trump campaign asked far recount there. even republicans privately do not think that will change the fact that joe biden is the first democrat to win georgia in nearly three decades. in michigan, lawmakers posted statement after visiting the white house saying, quote, we have not yet been made aware of any information that would change the outcome of the election in michigan as legislative leaders we will follow the law. and in another state, set to certify on monday, pennsylvania, a federal judge dismissed a case. another one there, by president trump's legal team seeking to delay certification of pennsylvania's election results. let's talk about all of this with two great white house reporters, maggie haberman of the new york times and tolu of the washington post. good morning, guys. thank you so much for joining me this morning. maggie, starting with you, what an extraordinary week of many of
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extraordinary weeks. it's pretty hard to use that word anymore, but it fits. a sitting president actively trying to change the outcome of an election he lost. take us inside the president's mind set at the moment. >> he's incredibly frustrated. you can see it in the tweets. he's had in the last couple days a series of court losses, some of them pretty excoriating including yesterday from pennsylvania. he had his lawyer who asked to lead the effort, rudy giuliani, hold a press conference last week, thursday, that was so calamitous that giuliani had his hair dye or something running down his face. the president was focussed on that. he did not get what he wanted when he had the lawmakers visit him. what he was hoping for and he often doesn't ask it that overtly in front of them. he was hoping he was going to be
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able to sell them on not certifying the results in michigan. that didn't happen. the lawmakers put out a statement. he is running out of avenues and you're seeing the frustration. i think you would see him continue to do this all the way up until inaugural, but until the next couple weeks until electors are are chosen? . >> tolu, you write about the president's efforts running into quiet resistance inside those key states. and you write the following. for the most part, local state officials have either remained silent or moved forward with the process of certifying election results, potentially closing the door to the post election gam butt to change the results first through the courts and then by way of gop-led state houses. this is an important phenomenon which is masked maybe a little bit by the sound of silence here in washington by national republicans. >> yeah. that's right. the president tried to do what he wants to do by the courts.
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he wants to change the election results and determine he would be the winner. he tried to do it through the courts. he's lost dozens of court cases and he started to shift toward trying to pressure the state republicans in various state houses in some of the swing states that brought them to the white house. some of the leaders from michigan and the effort would essentially try to get them to defy the will of the voters and appoi appoint -- saying there might have been fraud or election irregularities, let's look into this and open up tip lines, they're not following the president's plead when it comes to saying let's delay the certification of the results and try to overrule the will of the voters. it's not a courageous resistance, but they are not following the president's lead on the effort to overturn the
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election results. >> it's going to be put to the test tomorrow in michigan which is supposed to certify election results there. i want you to look at -- our viewers to look at the margin of victory in michigan. 2016 versus 2020. look at that difference. joe biden's margin is 14 times what donald trump's victory was in 2016 over hillary clinton and republicans are trying to derail certifying michigan's vote tomorrow. maggie, what are you hearing about whether or not they're going to be successful. we saw the rnc chair, the michigan chair write a letter to say please don't certify tomorrow. there could be some monkey business going on there still. >> there could be a delay, dana. and as you said, the republican national convention national chair committee from michigan has thrown her weight behind the president in trying to help out. she did not attend the meeting
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on friday which she has been connected to this in some way. the president is flailing around looking for something that he can call and delay in certifying michigan would be something you would see him point to regardless if it has an impact. he has been seeding disinformation about the election since and before the election took place. you could see a delay. almost to your point, joe biden's lead is so much bigger than what donald trump was in the same state, in 2016. joe biden has won by the same electoral votes and the president continues to claim that something was taken from him. you are starting to see republicans break from him. not a ton, and maybe not a ton before the georgia runoffs in january, but you are starting to see it. >> you are, and on that note, i heard late last week that there was more and more alarm among republican senators and they were considering more forceful pressure on the president. last night after a federal judge
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dismissed the trump campaign's lawsuit challenging pennsylvania's results and by the way, the judge did it in a very dismissive way to say the least, it was kind of laughed out of court. giuliani was. the gop senator there, pat toomey released a statement saying the following. saying the developments together with the outcomes in the rest of the nation confirm that joe biden won the 2020 election and will become the 46th president of the united states. republicans are starting to slowly accept the reality. and they're getting some retribution. the president tweeted criticizing toomey after he put out that statement. not surprisingly. >> not surprising. the statement from toomey shouldn't be surprising. it acknowledges that reality that biden won. he won in a pretty large margin in various swing states and nationwide with the popular vote. it shouldn't be a surprise that
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stating the obvious. but it is a surprise in some ways that it's been so hard for any of the republicans to even come out publicly and state the obvious and insert the reality that joe biden will be the next president and when they do so and stick their head up and speak out, they are immediately lashed upon by the president. he attacks on twitter. he is showing and trying to keep the rest of the party loyal to him by saying anyone that gets out of line is going to be attacked or driven out of the party. we know pat toomey is preparing to retire in two years. maybe he's more free to talk. it is really shocking three weeks after the election, so many republican senators have been silent. they've continued to humor the president and allow him to undermine the democratic process by saying he won an election that he actually lost. >> shocking and yet, not shocking. right? maggie, the president is privately admitting he lost, as you know. he's talking about the fact that this is revenge, i'm told, for
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the russia investigation. you have said many times he will never concede. you and jonathan martin write this morning about what's next. the headline is how trump used to use party machinery to maintain control of the gop. what are you learning? >> what the president is up to, and i have the same report, he's looking for revenge. when he's asked to concede he says no and points to the 72 million voters he's talking about. he believes he can try to keep ahold on the republican national convention. he's endorsed mcdaniel. he's about to not have any apparatus. he built up a campaign and the rnc over the course of the last four years. he's about to be without both of those. he's hoping to lean on the rnc basically as an offshoot of himself, even out of power, which is unusual for a post presidency.
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not so unusual for somebody who hasn't been president, but this is unusual, and you're hearing concern. we're hearing concern from some people within the rnc about what this would mean in terms of the party's ability to stay neutral in presidential primaries or frankly, in any primaries where let's say the president wants to take retribution. is the rnc going to be able to step back and stay neutral when he's applying pressure? >> it is going to be the real test there, as to whether or not the president's grip on the republican party is still as strong as it was when he was president when he is in his post presidency. thank you both so much. great talking to you. awesome reporting as always. have a great day. up next, the coronavirus surge is straining hospitals. doctors say thanksgiving will lead to another spike in cases. stay with us. water?
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more than 1 million americans tested positive for the coronavirus in the last week. nearly all 50 states are suffering a surge in cases and rural areas are especially feeling the strain. north dakota and south dakota, they have a combined population of 1.6 million people. outpacing cases this all of south korea with a population of 61 million. rising cases means more deaths and doctors and nurses on the frontline may warn this wave may overwhelm them. >> the biggest concern is when we call and ask for them to help take care of our patient who is are maybe sicker than we're used to taking care of, they don't have beds for us. >> please not another one.
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it's a prayer. the probability of it being a good outcome is very low. >> here to discuss, an emergency room physician and researcher at brown university and dean of the brown university school of public health. thank you so much for joining me this morning. more than a million americans tested positive for coronavirus this week. doctor shaw, what more can states do at this point to slow the spread? >> good morning, dana. thank you for having me on. some startes are starting to tae the lead. michigan, rhode island, a few others started to step up and put in what i think are sensible evidence-based restrictions and mitigation efforts. closing bars and restaurants, closing as much or reducing the amount of indoor activity as you can. but leaving k through 8 schools
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open. that's not a source of spread that we've seen and pushing for mask mandates harder. that set of stuff is a much better approach than a lockdown. and i think will be helpful. all the states have to do it. it can't be a few. >> and the cdc this week urged americans to avoid traveling for thanksgiving. i was one of the americans who listened. cancelled plans. they said be more concerned about a super spreader event than cooking a dry turkey. look at the guidelines. limiting guests to family and neighbors. having dinner outdoors or near open windows. sanitizing surfaces. bringing your own food and requiring masks. doctor, does this go far enough? >> almost. the safest thing this thanksgiving is to only do thanksgiving with your nuclear family. the people that you actually share a house with. because if you think about where spread of this virus happens, it's indoors without masks.
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over long periods of time. that's exactly what thanksgiving is. we gather around a table. we sit far couple hours. we share a drink and some turkey and cranberry sauce without a mask. if even 1% of the 50 million people who are traveling for thanksgiving transmit or catch this virus, we're looking at an extra 500,000 cases across the country. this is the year to stay home. if you must see people, do so only outdoors and at that safe distance. you don't know who is infected. i can't impress it strongly enough. our health care system cannot withstand another 500,000 or million infections being does caused by thanksgiving day. >> let's talk about good news this week. pfizer said at risk populations could receive a vaccine by the end of the year. what could it look like? >> the news on the vaccines really has been very very good
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over the last couple weeks. and what i expect is pfizer and hopefully moderna also will have their vaccines authorized by mid december. and then we'll start getting people vaccinated. health care workers and first responders first. into january and february, you're going to see high risk individuals, and the problem, da dana is the next couple months are going to be awful from a pandemic point of view. lots of infections and hospitalizations and deaths. once vax naxs start getting widespread, things will start getting better. people have to hold on a couple months and it will start getting better. >> and on that, a healthy person is out there watching and listening, okay, things are going to get better, but when can that person expect to be vaccinated and are there distribution concerns there? >> there are certainly distribution concerns. we're only going to have about 12.5 million doses of the pfizer vaccine by the end of the year. and there are going to be challenges in getting both the
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pfizer and less so the moderna vaccine out throughout the country. the pfizer vaccine in particular requires a type of cold storage as cold as antarctica. it's not an easy thing to send out into small rural areas. i would expect that most americans will not be vaccinated until the end of next spring or maybe even next summer. and, of course, the vaccine is not going to be 100% effective. until most americans are vaccinated, we are still going to be looking at mask wearing as a standard for the country. things are not going to go completely back to normal. but by next summer, we should be much closer to normal. i'm looking at may or june as when we're all going to be able to take a deep breath and get closer to what we remember the world being like. >> i like that end in sight point of view. quickly, we're almost out of time, but i have to ask about what you wrote this week about schools and the basic gist of it is that you think that schools
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are the most safe place for people to be, the safest place for people to be. why? >> we've looked at a lot of data. we're not seeing spread in schools. we do think that schools should be the very last places to close and the first places to open. of course, there's a lot of benefits of having kids in school as well. so that's why we wrote that piece to try to push policy makers to really focus on keeping schools open. >> i speak for all parents out there, and i'm sure i include you two. we appreciate that and we're glad to hear that very good news about schools. all learn so much from both of you. thank you so much. >> thank you. up next, house democratic caucus share hakeem jeffries on whether or not americans can expect a second coronavirus relief bill before the end of the year. tonight...i'll be eating cheesy cauliflower pizza with extra broccolini.
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president-elect joe biden met with senate minority leader chuck schumer an nay si pelosi on friday. atop the agenda, passing a coronavirus relief package in a lame duck session. as america enters the holiday season, upwards of 54 million people are facing food insecurity, and more than half of the 20 million americans now receiving some form of unemployment benefits will lose that assistance when those federal pandemic programs expire at the end of the year. in about a month, these key initiatives are scheduled to end. expanded unemployment benefits, student loan payment pause, eviction protection, paid family
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leave, coronavirus relief funds for states. with us to discuss whether a federal relief package is on the way and other issues, the chairman of the house democratic caucus, hakeem jeffries. thank you for joining me. let's start with the question of relief on the way. a lot of people are waiting for it. the house speaker said this week she's optimistic about a new stimulus bill, but as you well know, you need the senate majority lead tore make that happen. where does her optimism come from? >> she's working hard and we're prepared to stay in washington for as long as necessary to arrive at a coronavirus pandemic relief package, because as you just described, the situation on the ground requires it. the pain, the suffering and the death being experienced by the american people, the unemployment, the food insecurity, the housing uncertainty, that's not getting better. it's getting worse.
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that's why house democrats acted initially in may with the heros act and acted again on october 1st. mitch mcconnell has seemed to publicly send some messages that he's prepared to do something. it's our hope over the next few weeks when we return to washington in the aftermath of the thanksgiving recess that they come to the table with genuineness and authenticity, meaning senate republicans, committed to finally getting this done. >> i know that that table is not yet approached in this round. still, having said that, what are you promising, what do you believe unemployed americans who are watching right now who are about to lose their lifelines to realistically expect at a bare minimum? >> we need to extend out the eligibility for unemployment. that's the deadline that's getting ready to expire, and we need to renew the enhanced $600
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per week emergency unemployment insurance benefit. that is the benefit that expired because republicans allowed it to on august 1st. we need to renew that and make it retroactive to august 1st and extend the eligibility to next year. this is a once in a century pandemic. it requires a once in a century response. the other challenge we face honestly is that president trump is missing in action. he seems to have quit on the american people. it's an extraordinary thing to witness. hopefully when he sees house democrats and senate republicans negotiating as we are currently on a new spending agreement so we can avoid a government shutdown, and i'm confident we're going to reach a meaningful and robust spending agreement, that will lay the foundation for transitioning to
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completing the negotiations on the covid-19 relief package. >> the president might be missing but his treasury secretary said the fed should return unused funds from stimulus programs set to expire at the end of the year. mitch mcconnell in the senate says he supports it. what's your take? >> it's an irresponsible decision as indicated by the president elect and the incoming biden administration. we should repurpose the funds. i think that the wealthy and the well-off, the megacorporations are going just fine, but small and medium-sized businesses, mom and pop shops, family-owned businesses, black-owned businesses, women-owned businesses, minority-owned businesses are struggling. 100,000 small businesses have permanently closed in the midst of the paepd. as we enter into this intensifying winter wave, it's clear they're going to need
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additional relief. i certainly believe that repurposing the unspent money is the right thing to do for american businesses, particul particularly small businesses who have been hit hard. >> let me ask you about what's going on right now with president trump. a big part of his campaign's unsubstantiated claims is about fraud inside cities. this is a tweet he sent out this week. in detroit, there are more votes than people. nothing can be done to cure that scam. when you see that, what goes through your mind? >> the scam that has been perpetrated on the american people for the last four years is donald trump's presidency. that's the scam. he's in the midst of a massive meltdown. it's extraordinary. the biggest problem we confront as a country right now is that
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many mainstream so-called republican leaders are going along with it. the party of lincoln is gone. the party of reagan is gone. the party of mccain is gone. the cult of trump is here. many of us thought it would go away. it's here to stay, apparently. and that's frightening for our democracy. >> how do you work across the aisle? i mean, i know people don't see it, but it does exist. how do you work across the aisle starting next year if the party of trump is still there as you describe it? >> well, i'm very confident and optimistic in the leadership of president-elect joe biden. he has indicated appropriately on multiple occasions he's going to be the president for those americans who voted for him and those americans that voted against him. he's going to be the president for everyone. he also brings decades of relationships in the united states senate with mitch mcconnell and people on the other side of the aisle and
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hopefully once we get past january 20th, many of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle, other side of the capital, will gain some perspective about working with the new president, the new vice president who they also have a relationship with, and of course the house, to get things done for everyday americans? . >> and you're going to have your work cut out for you in trying to balance your own caucus which is diverse. we can talk about that another time. we're almost out of time. i have to ask you about nancy pelosi. she was elected by the democrats for another term as house speaker this week. she confirmed it's going to be her last with the gavel. do you want to be next? >> no. i want to get to tomorrow and then the next day and january 20th and ensure donald trump leaves office and we can get to the smooth transition of power to begin to get things done on behalf of americans who are struggling. i have a job to do as chair of the house democratic caucus. it's an important job in the context of making sure we bring
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all of our members' voices together to build back better and fight for the people. you have to do the job that you have and then let the rest take care of itself. one speaker at a time and we have an extraordinary one in nancy pelosi. >> i had a feeling your answer would be something along those lines. i'll get back to you this time in two years or maybe next year. thank you for joining me this morning. i appreciate it. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. in michigan, congressman fred upton is a one of a handful of republicans acknowledging joe biden has won the white house. he's with us next. stay with us. to make a masterpiece. taste our delicious new flatbread pizzas today. panera. i wanted my hepatitis c gone. i put off treating mine. epclusa treats all main types of chronic hep c.
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are the president's actions appropriate? >> you know what? the voters have spoken. no one has come up with any evidence of fraud or abuse. all 83 counties have certified their own election results. those will be officially tapulated or should be tomorrow. we expect that process moves forward and let the voters not the politicians speak. >> does it concern you what the president is trying to do? do you see it as trying to subvert what you described? >> i wasn't party to the discussions he had with some of our state legislators. one of them is one of my state senators. they came away from that meeting in a public statement and said in essence, that they weren't going to be bullied. that the process is going to move forward, and they weren't going to deny or stay -- stop --
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stay in the way of blocking that official certification. so whatever happened, transpired in that white house meeting, our state legislators acted i think correctly based on what they said when they came out of the meeting friday afternoon. >> and the pressure is not going away as you know. i'm sure you saw the michigan republican chair and the republican national committee chairwoman put a letter out requesting that there's a delay, a 14-day delay in certifying michigan's results. it's supposed to happen tomorrow as you mentioned. what's your response to that? >> well, you know, that's just a little bit out of bounds. you got to -- for the process to work, you got to have the official certification by the state board of canvassers. all that's in play. no one has come up with any evidence of any fraud. no one has found a pickup truck with a bunch of ballots in the back.
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the job is to in essence right now officially count all of those 83, make sure the numbers are tabulated correctly. put the stamp of approval on it and then move forward. and a 14-day delay doesn't help any. and frankly, we have to get back to governing. as you know, with the gsa not officially certifying the election, it's thrown a lot of sand in the gears of allowing for the transition to take place. we have enormous problems right now. we're on the cusp of having an fda approved vaccine. we want to see how it's going to be distributed to our health care workers. we've got to get, as hakeem said and i watched earlier this morning, we have to get the ppp, the paycheck protection program moving again to help our small businesses. we have to show leadership, and we have to have what is normally due across the globe as a
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peaceful transition of power. and for that to allow to happen, you've got to have this process work with the people engaged so that, in fact, it can be peaceful and we can make sure that things occur in the proper fashion. >> which means that you -- it sounds like you're confident the results will be certified in michigan as the law prescribes? there's a lot of talk behind the scenes that the republicans there might try to scuttle it in some way, shape, or form. >> well, i hope that it is. i mean, again, if you look at it on the surface, i mean, this is not a -- you know, four years ago the president won by 10,000 votes. no one challenged it. we've had a pretty good vote system here for a lot of years. they keep the ballots. they're accurately tabulated. i know a number of any --
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certainly in my local board of van kasers, all my county clerks, there's never been any excuse of a fraudulent election that certainly that i can recall. now all 83 counties have done that and it's time to move forward so the process can be official. >> i want to put this in context. as i do, i want you to listen to an argument a member of the president's legal team made this week. >> the entire election, frankly, in all the swing states should be overturned and the legislatures should make sure that the electors are selected for trump. >> you won your michigan district, congressman, by 16 points earlier this month. you are in a swing state. when you hear the president's attorney saying she wants to overturn those results, what's your reaction? >> you know, the voters spoke.
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and here again in michigan, it's not a raiser thin margin. it's 154,000 votes. you got to let the votes stand. people know the process. they knew our absentee, i voted absentee, so did my wife and parents and my brother and his wife. the process has been in place for a long time. it works. and there's no issues of fraud anywhere. 154,000 votes. in my county commission race, it was a dead even tie. they had to draw to see who won because it was exactly the same. 154,000 votes is -- it's over. >> it sounds like you are agreeing with what some republicans are starting to say including someone like trevor potter who was the fec chair as a republican. that there's concern that this is destabilizing for the basics
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of democracy. are you there? >> well, here's what the issue is. the longer this lasts, languishes, the time, then, escapes from us from seeing a peaceful transition to the next administration. by not allowing the security briefings, the health briefings, the normal transition from one president to the next, only brings about more uncertainty and threatens that peaceful transition that would otherwise -- that would certainly undermine, then, the next administration. we're americans. we need this process to work. this time from the november 3rd until january 20th, traditionally has been one that allows the two candidates to shake hands, to figure out what the transition is going to be,
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to make sure the american people, those not in the government, are, in fact, benefitted because of that transition. and when you slow it down, when you fail to certify the results, when you add all this uncertainty, it only makes it very problematic for the next administration to start with the feet hitting the ground. >> and real quick, yes or no. is there anything you can do as a republican, congressman, to get the gsa to start the transition moving? >> well, probably not. i mean, i'm just -- you know, but i'd like to say, too, a number of our leadership have spoken up. you saw liz cheney, she's number three in our organization. you've seen a number of senators. when we get the official certification tomorrow, that's just another major step forward to hopefully allow this process to move forward in a manageable way. >> congressman upton, i
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appreciate you coming on, and i'm pretty confident that the way that you spoke this morning is going to start to make people feel a lot better about the country and about where it is right now. thank you so much. >> thank you. thanks. have a great thanksgiving. >> thanks. you too. up next, president-elect biden's administration starts to take shape and it could be the most diverse ever. water? why?! ahhhh! incoming! ahhhahh! i'm saved! water tastes like, water. so we fixed it. mio. to stir that fire, university of phoenix
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trump administration continues to block the official presidential transition. president-elect joe biden schedule is on the crisis he will inherit when he is sworn in on january 20th. last week, he met with congressional leaders. can biden be prepared to take over on day one? >> there is no excuse not to share the data and let us begin to plan because on day one, it's going to take us time if we don't have access to all of this data. it's going to put us behind the 8 ball by a matter of a months or more. >> joining me now, to discuss is jackie of the "the daily beast." thank you, jackie. good morning. >> good morning. >> it has been two weeks since
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joe biden won the election. so far, he and his team are staying out of the transition fight, for the most part. they are not drawing up lawsuits for lots of reasons. but biden, himself, says it's slowing down critical coronavirus planning. it seems that he is pushing ahead with what he can do. what are you hearing from your sources in the transition? >> you're absolutely right. one of the things i know cnn reported this, they are trying to talk to congressional staff that know these issues in terms of transitioning, trying to back channel that way. but to the extent to which this administration is blocking the incoming biden administration from getting this critical information even hhs, they are not allowed to talk to the biden folks in order to get them up-to-speed. from day one, this could slow down things like vaccine distribution. things are very critical to
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americans. right on the onset as this transition of power is going to happen. it's all over but for the whining and the fact that the trump administration continues to drag its feet is hurting no one bum the american people at the end of the day. >> the whining is very apt way to put it, jackie. joe biden has pledged to appoint a cabinet that is representative of all americans. we have a list of officials that we believe he is considering. it is a big list, you know, several options for the top spots. given what we know about where he could be heading, is he upholding that promise? talk about the sort of difficulty -- not a difficulty, but the challenge he has in trying to please everybody. >> therein lies the problem, right? he is going to please everyone. i think when you look at the
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people who have been put in senior positions. one of the common things you're seeing with each of them are thels the peop these the people biden is comfortable with and he knows and worked with a long time? i think you'll see that throughout the cabinet. he will work to make sure it's diverse but i think the left might be a little bit disappointed. you're hearing complaints from some like cedric richardson, the congressman from louisiana. you heard some grumbling on the left about some of his ties to big oil as a congressman. that is going to the continue. big asks from the left wing considering the power that they lent to biden to get him over the line. they didn't really, after bernie sanders dropped out, you didn't hear a lot of complaints from the left. they really fell in line which
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is not normal. >> speaking of bernie sanders, it's been remarkable to watch him openly campaign for the job of labor secretary. is that the answer to the concerns of the progressives, put bernie sanders in the cabinet? >> that is definitely something they want for sure. whether that happens or not, that -- it's up to the biden transition which we know that, obviously. however, i don't think that will be the end even if bernie sanders does get to lead the department of labor. i don't think they will be like we can go home now, climate change is over, do you know what i mean? their list is long and they are not going to be quiet about getting what they want and who they want in positions of power in the biden administration. >> which is understandable. they were very good soldiers during the general election campaign and now it's time to ask the questions after they help joe biden get elected.
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jackie, thank you for your insights and your reporting. appreciate it. that is it for "inside politics." i hope you can catch the show weekdays as well at noon eastern. up next, "state of the union" with jake tapper and his guests including chief scientific adviser on operation warp speed dr. moncef slaoui and jen psaki and john bolton, as long as maryland golf larry hogan. thanks so much for watching. when panera's chef claes makes a pizza, he doesn't just make a pizza. he uses fresh, clean ingredients to make a masterpiece. taste our delicious new flatbread pizzas today. panera. ♪ ride... ♪ relax... now you're cloud surfing (record scratch)
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