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that we were all okay. and it just turned out to be just a real feel-good story. >> well, you -- you are the real deal. usually, i don't like to see guys with shirts with no sleeves on. but you should have whatever you want on, whenever you want. you are a man's man. and you are a woman's woman. you did everything that a human being could do right in a wrong situation, and i respect you and appreciate you. i'm going to find out what kind of cigars you like, and i'm sending you a box cause to do it all -- >> oh, my goodness. >> witho-- without losing your , thank you. thank you for being an example of what people can do when bad things happen to good puppies. richard willbanks, happy thanksgiving. i know gunner's going to have a good one. all right. "cnn tonight" with d lemon. you know that i like that you did that on your watch. you know you wanted every piece of that guy on your watch. >> i know you like to fashion yourself a tough guy.
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and, man, you would've loved that to be you. >> it would not have been me. it would not have been me. >> you know, from louisiana, lots of gators down there. we usually don't like to mess with those gators. they're like sleeping dogs, you just let 'em lie. but this one, when you got a dog and a gator coming together and the gator's trying to eat the dog, you know, you got to take care of that. we chomp those gators. we chomp them gators down at louisiana and lsu. >> maybe, on the football field. what i am saying is you got three rescues that you love or at least two. i got the three dogs. >> can you imagine? >> i don't know that i have what it takes to go under the water, where the alligator is with the puppy. i'd like to think i would but i don't know. >> i know -- i know you -- i know that you don't. but i'll tell you like this. whenever you say you're going to beat me up, i'm like that gator from down south in the bayou. i'm scrappy.
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i got to tell you what. i tell you what. this is what's happening right now. americans are trying to wrestle back democracy from this president. >> oh, good segue. good segue. >> yeah. not wrestle, wrastle. i'll see ya later. i love you more than -- than buttered grits. >> i'd pry you out of a mouth of an alligator, any day. have a good show. >> that might be you so we got to figure that out. you're the gator here. thank you, sir. i'll see you later. >> let me go, if it's me. i've had enough. >> see ya later. this is "cnn tonight." i am don lemon. we do start with breaking news, tonight. and the breaking news is that, you ready, it is over. the desperate refusal to admit the reality everyone else has seen for 16 days, now, it is over. and that is of joe biden and, really, sane america trying to wrestle democracy back. joe biden is the president-elect. whether the current president
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likes it or not. so, tonight, the transition to the biden administration can, finally, officially, begin. and it couldn't happen at a better time. thanksgiving week. folks are at home. they need to -- we need, you know, to just rest, instead of all the craziness. the news, first, on cnn. coming in a letter from a previously, little-known bureaucrat, that's general services administrator, emily murphy. she says, i take this role seriously. and because of recent developments involving legal challenges and certifications of election results, i am transmitting this letter today to make those resources and services available to you. should have happened a long time ago but america will take it. trump insiders admitting, quote, it is over. blaring wake-up call. this as close to a concession as you may get from trump. that's probably it and, okay, fine. and i can tell you the damage he
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has done, by claiming his election was stolen is unparallel and indefensible. okay? that's what republican -- another, senior republican is saying. and that's coming from trump insiders. okay? the current president, trying to claim credit, simultaneously, tweeting that he will continue the fight at instructing the gsa to do what needs to be done, which they're already doing. the fact is the president-elect is moving ahead. the current president is, pretty much, i don't know, he's -- he's out of ways to hold this president-elect back. he is a lame-duck president, and he is trying to wiggle and do everything he can to get out of it or have some power. but it's over. poof. power's over. done. biden's transition executive director saying this. today's decision is needed -- is a needed step to begin tackling the challenges facing our nation, including getting the pandemic under control and our economy back on track. and with the virus soaring across the country, millions of
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americans, ignoring warnings from the cdc and traveling for thanksgiving. joe biden tells mayors this, today. >> all of you -- front lines, from the very beginning. and as we head into this thanksgiving and a very dark winter with cases and hospitalizations and deaths spiking, i want you to know that we're here for you. >> the transition is, finally, finally, getting underway. and not a moment too soon. it comes with more and more republicans trying to get a message to this current president. it is time. >> the idea that a sitting president would try to, i don't know, pressure or cajole, persuade, state legislators to dismiss the will of their voters and select their own group of electors and send them to the electoral college. it's completely inconsistent
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with any kind of truly democratic society. so, that shouldn't be going on, in my view. i don't like to characterize how my colleagues feel about these things, but i can assure you i am not alone in this view among republican senators. >> you know, the voters spoke. and here, again, in michigan, it's not a razor-thin margin. it's 154,000 votes. you got to let those votes stand. >> now, we're beginning to look like we are a banana republic. it -- it -- it's time for them to stop the nonsense. it just gets more bizarre, every single day. and -- and frankly, i'm embarrassed that more people in the party aren't speaking up. >> and what's happened here is, quite frankly, the president's legal team has been a national embarrassment. listen. i've been a supporter of the president's. i voted for him twice. but elections have consequences and we cannot continue to act as if something happened here that didn't happen. >> they know the party's over.
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president trump knows the party's over. just can't quit, though. trump confidante and ceo, steve schwartzman, bluntly saying the outcome is very certain today and the country should move on. do you hear that, conservative media? that i've been listening to all weekend. it's over. move on. stop misinforming the public. one after another, they saw the writing on the wall. but, wait. what's that i hear from mitch mcconnell, from ted cruz, and lindsey graham? do you hear that? yeah, right, because it's crickets. you don't hear anything. the silence is deafening. just 58 days to go until inauguration day. now, the president has clearly run out of road. michigan voting to certify its election results, in spite of pressure from the white house. and a number of court cases won by the trump campaign, dropped from two to just one single case
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today, after pennsylvania's supreme court overturned one of those wins. so, that makes a stunning 30 cases. 30 lost or withdrawn, since election day. with just one win. and the president, true to form, is looking for someone to blame. looks like it's going to be someone on his legal team. a source telling cnn that he is just about had it with rudy giuliani. finally, really? just about had it? ukraine and all the impeachment mess and all the hunter biden stuff that served to help him become a lame-duck, one-term president? impeached, one-term president. and now, he's finally had it with rudy giuliani? where ya been? he's upset with rudy giuliani. losing patience with the man, who used to be known as america's mayor. giuliani, tonight, admitting that he exaggerates, a bit,
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about voter fraud. just a bit. >> the city of detroit probably had more voters than it had citizens. i'm exaggerating a bit. but all you have to do is look at statistical data, and you can see that the fraud was rampant and out of control. >> well, remember, he admitted he is exaggerating, right? and then, there's legal adviser, as trump would say, what a beauty. he loves that word. what a beauty. talking about jenna ellis, laughably, insisting the election was stolen and trump won, in a landslide. that that's the kind of dangerous stuff they're still spewing in conservative media. people are still buying it and they know it's a bunch of bs. it's not true, at all. do the right thing for the country. country, before party. country, before whatever it is that you're doing. the two of them throwing attorney sydney -- i'm talking
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about rudy giuliani and jenna ellis -- throwing sydney powell under the bus, today, after her ridiculous and completely bogus claims about venezuela and george soros, somehow, being mixed up in voter fraud. let's not forget, she was presented a key member of the legal team, just last week. sydney powell was. but i guess, when you lose rush limbaugh, case is closed. >> you call a gigantic press conference like that. one that lasts an hour. and you announce massive bombshells. then, you better have some bombshells. there'd better be something at that press conference, other than what we got. i talked to so many people who were blown away by it. by the very nature of the press con -- but they promised blockbuster stuff, and then nothing happened. and that's just -- that's not --
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well, it's just -- it's not good. >> hmm, that's not good. where have they been with the evidence? were they hoping, somehow, that sydney powell, jenna ellis, rudy giuliani, et al., esquires et al. would, somehow, come up with a way to actually steal the election? it was right in front of their faces. there was no path. they knew it was a bunch of bs. it was obvious to everybody. unless, you just don't want to believe the truth, and you're living in an alternative reality. that is the truth. tough as it is to hear for some folks. two trump advisers saying what the president tweeted tonight is, quote, concession light.
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great taste, less filling. if you are old enough to remember that. one, going on to call the whole thing a veiled attempt to justify continued fundraising solicitations. told you about that. it's to raise money. main part of it. save face, to be able to continue to pretend to people that he is a winner and a great businessman and a good politician, none of which are true. once a grifter, always a grifter. all this fighting. all this disruption, terrible for the country. you remember, patriot, love the country, family values, all that? where did that -- right out the door -- where'd it go? and he is doing it so he can raise money off of you. the trump campaign has sent supporters at least 332 e-mails
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since election night. remember, all those cases i told you? 30. thrown out. withdrawn. fundraising off of his legal fight. milking those lawsuits for every penny he can. still, trying to subvert the will of the people. still, trying to defraud voters. if only the current president would listen to donald trump, just two years ago, talking turkey about votes. >> the winner of this vote was decided by a fair and open election, conducted on the white house website. this was a fair election. unfortunately, refused to concede and demanded a recount and we're still fighting with carrots. and i will tell you, we've come to a conclusion.
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carrots, i'm sorry to tell you, the result did not change. it's too bad for carrots. >> who's the real turkey? the president has yet to actually concede and that might never happen. do you really care, though? but, after weeks of stalling, completely unfounded accusations, the transition can finally begin. and joe biden's former boss says this about what's ahead. >> there's been some damage done, that is gonna take some time to -- to -- to dig ourselves out of. but there's no doubt that joe's got the right people to do it. ♪ ah honey honey ♪ ♪ you are my candy girl ♪ and you've got me wanting you ♪ applebee's 2 for $20. it's date night in the neighborhood.
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reality, finally, sinking in with the trump administration. telling president-elect joe biden that his transition process can formally begin. it's basically an acknowledgment, by president trump, that he lost the election, but without him actually saying that. let's discuss, now, with cnn's white house correspondent, kaitlan collins. and our senior washington correspondent, mr. jeff zeleny. good evening, and happy thanksgiving week to both of you. kaitlan, president trump keeps losing. michigan. pennsylvania. now, the gsa finally saying biden's transition can formally begin. what's he saying? how is he responding to this? >> well, he is trying to frame
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it as if he gave the gsa permission to let this formal transition start to take place. though, in a letter from gsa to want biden team, stress they made this decision independently. saying she was not pressured by the executive branch to do so. however, the president, in his tweet, is saying he recommended that she do so. but i think what you were mentioning there. those cases and the string of losses we have seen over the last 72 hours or so for the president played a role in this decision today. because emily murphy references that in her letter, saying it was behind the decision she made to move forward with this. because she tries to defend this delay, by saying she wanted to let the constitutional process play out. of course, there's been a lot of criticism of her and gsa for stonewalling it for this long. but also, on how the president is viewing this. >> yeah. and there -- i mean, there has been case after case after case. we said at least 30 of them have been withdrawn or even thrown
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out. their record is terrible. jeff, what's the word from the biden team? because they're going to have to access -- they're going to have access, now, to resources, critically-important information on national security, covid, and so on and so forth. they have been trying to get this information but they have been stonewalled. >> don, they have and tomorrow is three weeks from election day so they certainly have been waiting for this. but even then, i'm told this still came as a bit of a surprise to people inside biden world. they were not necessarily expecting this letter to come this evening. so certainly, that is something that opens the door to their transition, opens the door to really what they have already been doing. but it does give them access to documents, access to that funding. and really, a sense of what is going on inside the administration. let's take a look at a statement that the biden-transition team sent out, tonight. there is actually some very interesting words when you actually analyze them a little bit. in the days ahead, transition officials will begin meeting
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with federal officials to discuss the pandemic response, have a full accounting of our national security interests, and gain complete understanding of the trump administration's efforts to hollow out government agencies. on the face, that kind of sounds like normal words. what they are saying there. the translation is russia. the nation's national security interests. really, see what is going on, possible communications, between the u.s. and them. and hollowing out government agencies. really, trying to see what the trump administration in the biden team's view, has done over the last four years. so there, certainly, is something they believe meetings could begin tomorrow or in the coming days. but their focus is on covid-19. the -- you know, the vaccine plan, of course, and specific, scientific information still coming from the states. and of course, the ultimate meeting that we are sure will happen, at some point, dr. fauci and joe biden. they've known each other for so long. just imagine, at some point, that will happen. but certainly, there will be meeting at lower levels before that, don. >> hey, jeff, you touched on this. but i just want to -- i want to
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delve in a little bit more here because joe biden is unveiling his picks for top posts in this administration. you talk about the history-making part of it. what do you know? >> i mean, pretty extraordinary, when you look at the number of people of the cabinet appointments that were made today. announcements. of course, official nominations come after he becomes president. but when you look at the list of people named already, tony blinken, secretary of state. he, of course, has been a long time adviser of joe biden. but look at the nominee for department of homeland security. he is an immigrant to the united states. he would oversee immigration policy. avril haines will be the first woman to lead the national-intelligence agency. the intelligence community, here. janet yellen would be the first woman to serve as treasury secretary. on and on. so, clearly, what the -- the biden team is trying to do in both style and substance, say, look. there is a new sheriff in town. this is not the trump administration. we are going to make every one
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of these appointments about something larger than that. so, yes, it's about these names and the biographies of these individuals. but it's, also, about specific policy as well, don. >> yeah. and about people who are really qualified. and one of them, i have to say, is from the town, my neighboring town, where i went to high school. i went to high school in baker, louisiana. linda thomas greenfield is from baker. congratulations to her. a hometown lady, who did really, really well. >> ambassador to united nations, right. >> yeah. i hope to get her on to -- to talk about that and talk about baker, louisiana. what's changed and what's still the same. kaitlan, you know, cnn is learning that president trump is -- is souring on rudy giuliani. i mentioned it in the top of the show. what's this about? it seems that he's blaming everybody but himself. we have -- we have been saying -- look, come on. rudy giuliani, over the course of this presidency, has not been good for this president. and just in the past couple weeks, with all of these antics and the court cases and this team. he's just now starting to sour
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on rudy giuliani? go on, kaitlan. >> yeah. and we often see rudy giuliani be this safe space, where republicans can criticize rudy giuliani and what he is doing without criticizing the president. so that's kind of been a territory they have fallen into over the last several weeks. when really, what rudy giuliani is saying is, yes, he may be feeding the president's tendencies here but it's the president's decision to amplify these conspiracy theories. they distanced themselves from sydney powell, after she was heavily criticized for presenting theories about evidence. but they're both still pushing conspiracy theories about the election, without any evidence. and so, now, there are reports that he is souring on rudy giuliani. i do think we could get to a point where the president is blaming his legal team for the losses that he's suffered. even though, you know, we've heard from election experts and attorneys saying that it didn't matter which legal team was representing the president. he still did not have a case here. it wouldn't have changed anything of the outcome.
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so, that could be where we end up. but, of course, it really, ultimately, rests with the president. >> well, it didn't help that he picked the ones in the clown car to represent him, though. thank you very much. insult to injury. thank you very much. i appreciate both of you. i will see you soon. i want to bring in former gsa administrator under president barack obama. i am so happy to have you on. thank you, so much, for joining us, ma'am. i really appreciate it. >> thank you. it's good to be with you. >> so, cnn, breaking the news that the transition can begin. you were the one that signed off on the trump transition. should the formal signoff for president-elect biden have ever taken this long? it's been more than two weeks, after the election was called. >> it has been and unfortunately, as we wait, each day that goes by is a day that the presidential transition team is not getting to work on very significant activities and
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efforts. and in terms of the election, itself, you know, looking at the results in the states that were reporting and, thereby, the electoral votes that have been achieved by president-elect biden. you would have really hoped for this transition to start immediately. >> yeah. i want to read part of what president trump tweeted, after he saw the gsa administrator, emily murphy's letter. and i quote here. says i am recommending that emily and her team do what needs to be done with regard to initial protocols and have told my team to do the same. this, i'm sure you will agree, this might be the closest thing that we'll ever see to a concession. but, to be clear, murphy didn't need a concession for things to -- to get going, correct? >> she did not. in terms of the ascertainment that the gsa administrator has the authority for, it's understanding that and it's the apparent winner of being selected and identified.
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it's not, as she points out in her letter, for the administrator to determine. but it is based on the apparent winner. and, in this case, i think, arguably, we have the apparent winner in place. you know, something that she points to is the precedent of the 2000 elections, when, in fact, those -- that election, it wasn't clear the path to 270 electoral votes for either leading candidate, and that was a different circumstance. but, here, we had an apparent winner. there has been time that's gone by. and because of that, that does impact the presidential-transition team. of course, the biden team has been working to get up to speed. and obviously, has made a number of appointments in announcement. but at the end of the day, there is 100 federal agencies, close to 4 million federal employees, and a lot of policy and determination to understand and to take hold of, before january 20th. and we want the presidential team to be prepared, on day one.
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we don't want them playing catchup and, unfortunately, they have lost about 20 days, at this point. >> yeah. they've lost a lot of time. i got to ask you. as -- as a former gsa administrator, as you were sitting by watching this, what was going through your head? >> my concern and focus is, and always has been, on the american people. the idea the presidential transition process is for smooth operations and continuity of government. it's -- its focus is how do we ensure that the american people are getting the service and -- and the security and that their health is being taken care of. and that those major issues that are american-policy issues are being dealt with. and to have disruption in that and, thereby, the uncertainty that was created, is truly unfortunate and that's what i was watching. >> uh-huh. i'm sure you were. and they're going to have to work, as you said, really, extra hard and extra fast to catch up those 20 days they lost.
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linda turner roth. gsa administrator under barack obama. denise turner. sorry. i don't know why i called you -- denise turner. thank you so much. you have a fantastic thanksgiving. thank you so much. >> thank you. thank you, don. thank you. >> thank you. thank you. the
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the gsa is issuing its letter to president-elect biden about beginning the transition after a day of setbacks for the current president, as he tries to overturn the results of this election. including, michigan officially certifying biden as the winner in that state. awarding him its 16 electoral votes.
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joining me now, michigan lieutenant governor, garland gilchrist. lieutenant governor, last we spoke, you said you'd get it done and you did. so, congratulations to you. give me your reaction to the gsa finally allowing the transition to formally take place. >> don, thank you for having me. always a pleasure to be here. and i am proud of absolutely, first and foremost, the voters of the state of michigan, who spoke with a loud and very clear voice. and i'm proud that the process has been followed, and that, as i indicated to you before, that i expected the state board of canvassers to do their job and certify the election results. and they did so. and i want to thank the three members who voted to certify. and we are now ready to move forward. and as, you know, i think as michigan goes, so goes the country. so i don't think it's coincidental that as these dominos continue to fall, including the state of michigan, officially, certifying joe biden as a decisive winner in our state. that, you know, the president's house of cards is falling. >> yeah. i just -- i just wonder why it
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was such a problem, this time. and what his reasoning, his real reasoning, is, besides the show that he is putting on and the false assertions that he is making. because michigan certification. i mean, it's another, major setback in his attempt to steal this election. biden leads by more than 154,000 votes. for comparison, trump won michigan, in 2016, by less than 11,000 votes. so, why was this ever in question? >> it never was in question. that was only a fiction in the president's mind. and it's very difficult, if not impossible, to ascribe planning to this administration's effort to try to hold on to power that it lost when the voters rejected them. so, rather than thinking about that, i'm focused on the plans that, you know, joe biden and kamala harris are going to be implementing for the rest of the country. you know, we have a pandemic to deal with. and the biden -- and the trump administration isn't dealing with that, at all. but the biden/harris transition
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is already working on it. so we're trying to work with them from michigan to tell them what we need and what states need in order to move forward, in terms of economic relief. you know, planning for vaccine distribution. we have real work to do and the trump administration hasn't taken it seriously for a very long time. but i am looking forward to having an administration that will take the business of the people seriously. >> well, listen. remember when there was the -- the zoom meeting with the electors a week ago, and people were outraged. and i think it's important for people to see citizens taking action and speaking and having their voices heard. we heard from local officials. we heard from clerks. we heard from others during public comments at certification meeting, offering up praise to the hard-working people, as you did, who counted the votes. watch this. >> i think it's incredible for the clerks of this state and, also, of detroit. that they could make a pivot from a 70% in-person voting or
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75% in-person voting environment to close to a 70% by-mail voting environment. in the middle of a pandemic. >> no matter what happened on election day, whether or not challengers shouted stop the vote in the tcf center. whether or not they were violating social-distancing rules. or whether they stood in the middle of the processing center, without their mask on. nothing, and i mean nothing, deterred our poll workers from being engaged. they stayed focused throughout that entire operation. >> hear that, lieutenant governor, and then you consider the lengths that this president and his band of whatever you want to call its went through to overturn the results. making calls to local gop officials, meeting republican michigan state lawmakers at the
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white house. all, so un-democratic. >> i mean, you know, this makes me think about something that my grandmother taught me. and it's that, you know, the truth will always defeat lies. the thrashing of this administration, the pulling out all the stops to try to get any republican to do his bidding. they can't defeat the people. the people stood up. when the wayne county board of canvasser republicans tried to do the wrong thing and they demanded to do the right thing, they followed suit. those poll workers, those frontline workers, protecting and defending our democracy did their jobs, to the best of their ability. and we thank them for their service. they showed that we can, again, trust people with democracy, not trust the republican party, obviously. and i'm proud about how we're going to move forward. i think this is going to be, now, an opportunity for us to think about how we can better serve the people of michigan, from an election standpoint. and i think this will only get better. so i'm excited about the future of our democracy because michigan protected it.
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>> lieutenant governor, thank you. never know what can happen between now and thursday but if i don't see you, happy thanksgiving. appreciate you joining. >> happy holidays. everyone, please stay safe. >> yes, you as well. well, speaking of staying safe. we have all of this going on, while there is a deadly pandemic that is just ravaging the country. more vaccine news, today, to tell you about. to tell you about. astrazeneca announcing their trial's results. will the transition that should have started weeks ago, is it going to slow anything down? we'll talk about that.
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so, now that the gsa is formally beginning the transition, biden can finally get access to briefings. an official on biden-transition team telling cnn their most urgent need is to get vaccine distribution plans and other
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covid data. with cases soaring across this country, lives are in danger. so, let's discuss, now, with cnn medical analyst, dr. larry brilliant. dr. brilliant, a plaeasure to have you on. let's talk about this formal-transition process. it should have begun weeks ago. what are your biggest challenges, what will be the biggest challenges be for the biden team? >> thank you, don. it's good to be with you again. well, right now, you know, we're in this situation where it's the best of worlds and the worst of worlds. the best of worlds because we got three vaccines that are coming out of the hopper. and they all look to be good. we have large quantities coming down the pike. at exactly the time that we're at -- i won't even say the peak but we're at one of the peaks of this pandemic. we've got 80,000 people in hospitals. the most we've ever had. we're cruising on towards well over 200,000 cases a day.
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and maybe 2,500 deaths per day but we have got the vaccines coming. so we have to be very careful and adroit and work quickly. and that requires cooperation between the administration. what we needed was a seamless transition so the new team could get ready to distribute the vaccines that the old team brought us. it's like a relay but we're behind the ball right now. >> dr. fauci has said that he would like to meet prote president-elect biden's team. when do you expect that to happen? and how much can he help this transition team? probably, immensely, right? >> i expect that to happen, right away. i'm sure he will be one of the first people that the biden-transition team wants to talk to. and he can help immensely because he's been planning this vaccine since the disease was first discovered. i think we're going to do really well with getting a vaccine distributed.
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i like what the national academy panel on equitable distribution of the vaccine has done. calling out who's the most needy to get the vaccinations, first. and what that cadence will be. now, that we will have an ethical white house, i think we'll follow that plan. and so, i'm -- i'm really optimistic that, while this thanksgiving, i hope, people will stay at home with their nuclear family, virtual thanksgiving, and maybe have two thanksgivings next year. i think next year's going to look so much better. >> well, listen. as far as i'm concerned, thanksgiving could be in april or may. i just decided to tell my family this is thanksgiving, i'm bringing y'all up and we're going to celebrate in may or june or july. it doesn't have to be, you know, in november. let's talk about one of these vaccines, though. astrazeneca announcing that its
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coronavirus vaccine, showing an average effectiveness of 70% in large-scale trials. even more, depending on the dosing regimen. can you walk us through that? what does all -- what does that mean? >> yeah. the vaccine efficacy, of course, is what we will expect that people who are vaccinated, what percent of them will not get the disease if they're exposed to the disease. and astrazeneca had to do two trials. remember, they had a little hiccup in their trial earlier where there was an unexplained illness. so in one of their trials, the efficacy was 90%. in another, it was about 60%. per rule, they have to average those. that's what they said 70%. but i'm optimistic they'll be able to reach that 90% by tweaking the formula for distribution. >> i was going to ask you. can i step in and ask you a question here? so -- so you said 90 and then 60%. right? so -- so 90 and 60%. we have a bit of a delay here.
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so, they have to average it in. but i would imagine when they got the -- the lower one or what have you, i'm not sure how that happened. they went back and tweaked it and i think that's where you were going. so you think the efficacy is probably higher than the 70% average that is given. go on. am i wrong? >> no, you're not wrong but they didn't tweak the vaccine. they tweaked these -- the schedule of dosing of the vaccine. the 90%, they got, by giving half a dose in the first of the two doses. and then, giving a full dose. and perhaps, they discovered, even through that process, the better way to use that vaccine. there are a lot of other really good things about the astrazeneca vaccine. it doesn't require inordinate amount of freezing and, therefore, it can be transported to places that don't have these huge freezers. it makes it a better vaccine to be used as a global vaccine. and we're going to have to work with our friends at the world health organization because if
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any country has covid, then all countries have it. so, we're going to have to have vaccines that have different kind of characteristics for different communities and different purposes. >> yeah. well, that's -- what you said. that's what i meant by tweak. you just said it better and that's why you're dr. brilliant. thank you, doctor. happy thanksgiving. it's a pleasure. >> happy thanksgiving, my friend. it's always good to see you. >> you, as well. so, take this. even though we're, clearly, still in the middle of a pandemic. the white house is planning on hosting holiday parties. before we talk about tax-smart investing, what's new? -well, audrey's expecting... -twins! grandparents! we want to put money aside for them, so...change in plans. alright, let's see what we can adjust. ♪ we'd be closer to the twins.
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how many superspreader events have we seen being held, we witnessed being held at the white house? that's why i want you to take this. it's the beginning of the holiday season at the white house. are parties really a good idea during the worsening of a covid-19 pandemic and considering the reputation that has come out of that white house, so many people testing positive after going to events there. the first lady melania trump on hand as a white house christmas tree was delivered today. the trumps are planning on holding christmas and hanukah celebrations. guest lists will be smaller this year. masks will be required. social distancing will be encouraged. social distancing at holiday parties? okay. good luck with that. even president trump's own surgeon general is a bit
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skeptical. >> well, we want everyone to understand that these holiday celebrations can be superspreader events. we want them to be smart and as small as possible. again, go to cdc.gov, look at these tips for everyone. they apply to the white house, to the american people. they apply to everyone. we want you to stay safe so we can get to a vaccine. >> as i said, the white house is a bad track record. it's a superspreader location. the rose garden ceremony in late september where the president nominated amy coney barrett for the supreme court resulted in at least a dozen people testing positive for covid-19, including the president and the first lady. then there was the election night gathering at the east room at the white house. another superspreader event. chief of staff mark meadows, housing secretary ben carson among those testing positive for covid right after. and now we have learned that donald trump jr. has tested positive. i understand that this is, you
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know, the last holiday season for the trumps in the white house but parties are not a good idea when nearly 200,000 americans are testing positive on a daily basis. more than a quarter million have already died, and many of the members in your own family, mr. trump, including you and the first lady have tested positive. and as the trumps are planning -- making plans for their last holiday season at the white house, joe biden is getting the go ahead tonight to formally begin his transition. stay with us. ♪ you're still the one that i love to touch ♪ ♪ still the one and i can't get enough ♪ ♪ we're still having fun, and you're still the one. ♪ applebee's 2 for $20. it's date night in the neighborhood.
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cnn tonight tonights now with none other than laura coats. good evening, you're the perfect person to have on to discuss this, especially all of these

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