hello, everyone. i'm kate bolduan thank you so much for joining us this hour. the trump administration is finally acknowledging what the country has known for some three weeks now. that joe biden is the president-elect of the united states. the formal transition to the biden administration is finally under way today. following last night's move by the head of the general services administration. she finally took the odd but necessary administrative step of formally acknowledging the transition can begin. allowing the biden team to work with current agency officials and tap into millions of dollars needed in government funds to get things set up. in her letter, administrator emily murphy came to the decision independently. she said please note i came to my decision independently based on the law and available facts. i was never directly or

indirectly pressured by any executive branch official including those who work at the white house or gsa with regard to the substance or timing of my decision. the president doesn't see it that way, he put this tweet out, i'm recommending that emily and her team do what needs to be done with regard to initial protocols. and writines he will not conced and that the gsa does not determine who the next president of the united states will be. so the temper tantrum continues. regardless of the president's twitter feed the transition is moving full speed ahead with president-elect biden formally announcing key cabinet picks this afternoon. we have reporters covering all the angles for us, arlette saenz is with the biden team in delaware and john harwood is at the white house.

how is the biden team reacting to the gsa allowing the transition to move ahead now? >> reporter: president-elect joe biden and his team have the green light so they can get the transition process under way. and there are a number of things they're looking at as they get access into the trump administration. the executive director of the transition team said that in the coming days biden's team will be coordinating with federal officials to start to talk about the coronavirus pandemic and national security issues. now one thing over the past few weeks the biden team had already launched their agency review teams and they will now have access to officials at the departments and agencies to get a look under the hood of what the trump administration has recently been doing. we know that the department of defense has already been in contact with biden's transition team and that is something that you are going to see play out over the course of the next few weeks as they gain access to more agencies.

and one thing that the biden team is looking for is information about the coronavirus pandemic, simple data sets like testing supplies and ppe and hospital beds but also wanting to look at the planning for the distribution of a vaccine. the biden team finds that to be a critical component as they are headed into the early days of their administration and are seeking more information. >> understandable. the largest vaccination effort we've ever seen. so they should be concerned about how the plans are going. john, what are you hearing from the white house this morning about all of this? >> reporter: we're hearing, kate, a continuation of that attempt that you referred to last night of the president trying to cover his retreat with false bravoda. just after emily murphy signed that ascertainment letter, the president said i concede nothing. this morning more of the same. he's tweeted out images of himself looming over the desk in

the oval office saying i can see nothing. said that emily murphy doesn't decide who's going to be president. he's been retweeting the troubled actor, randy quad, various images talking about fraud and continuing to raise money for his political endeavors in the future not just his election defense fund. the amount of money he's raising for the future endeavors is rising. we know the president got pressure yesterday from lawyers and advisers saying the effort to resist the election results claiming it was fraud was collapsing in on itself, making him look silly. so he finally yielded to that, but then tried to, characteristically of donald trump, act as if he hadn't done what he had just done. >> arlette, the president-elect is rolling out nominees today. a lot of history is going to be made with this announcement today. >> reporter: yeah, it certainly is. in these appointees that he's

announcing today. you have the first person who could be a latino to run the department of homeland security. and the first woman who could lead the intelligence community. biden and his vice president-elect kamala harris will be here in delaware later this afternoon to introduce the people to the american people and each of the six national security and foreign policy focused nominees and appointees will also be on hand here and will also have a brief moment to speak. this is all part of their effort to introduce their incoming administration to the american public. and one thing that is also common in these appointments that biden is making is that these people have decades of experience in each of their sectors. and you'll remember that joe biden ran as the experienced candidate. that was his whole selling point as he was a candidate that he has been in office and knows how to execute and how things run. and he's also showing that in

the picks that he's announcing later today. >> john, real quick. the president is holding a public event today. the annual thanksgiving turkey pardoning, but jokes aside on a serious note when it comes to pardon, it is a question what pardons are coming at the end of any administration. what's the potential here? >> reporter: i think the potential is high. we don't expect the president to take questions, he hasn't since the election. on the issue of pardon he is at bottom a transactional figure he asks in every circumstance what is in it for me. so if he looks forward and says can i benefit politically by pardoning someone he's going to consider that. he has legal exposure when he leaves the white house. during the russia probe by robert mueller he dangled the possibility of a pardon for paul manafort, his former campaign chairman. there's ever reason to think when we get closer to january 20th when he thinks of how he

can come out ahead he'll use that power as he used every otherl other lever of the presidency to benefit himself. >> thank you both so much. joining me david challion for more on all of this. back to where we began, is with what we're seeing from donald trump with regard to concession or not. do you think what we're seeing from the president in this moment is as close to a concession as we're going to get from this president? if's in a the case, what's the impact of that? >> he's made clear that he will not concede. those were his words in his tweet. this is as close as we are likely to see a concession, which is allowing the formal process of the transition to get under way and instructing his team to abide by those rules. you ask what the impact is of this. the impact is that donald trump is looking for every possibly

avenue to hang onto political power inside the republican party. he knows he's leaving office on january 20th. he understands that joe biden is going to be the next president of the united states. but the impact of him saying that the fight continues and i'm going to keep going with recounts and litigation and this election was stolen from me, though it clearly wasn't, that's all about maintaining a connection with his supporters that will live beyond his presidency to support whatever endeavor he goes into, including holding open the possibility that he may run again in 2024. what that will do is maintain his power, his hold on the political dynamics inside the republican party. >> that's actually -- that might be part of the answer to what i wanted to ask you about as well. there's something i'm hung up on some of jim acosta's reporting, persuading trump to move on and

concede was the off the rails press conference with giuliani last week, that is what it took for republicans to start calling over and saying, enough is enough. that is what it had to take to say enough is enough? so many of them saw exactly what everyone saw in the election results. but still stood by silently indulging the president's fantasies for the last three weeks. what do republicans do now? >> i would note, the vast majority are still standing by. >> good point. >> it took some republicans to view that press conference to come out and say something. i haven't heard mitch mcconnell congratulate president-elect biden on his victory and talk about how he plans to work with him in the biden administration. i haven't heard from a lot of republicans, actually, who have said what the president did here for the last two and a half weeks has just been completely against the grain.

so yes, some republicans saw that press conference last week and said this is, as you noted, off the rails. but the vast majority know -- remember, that press conference that was held at the republican national committee headquarters. >> that's a good -- that's a great point. >> that was the location of the press conference, kate. so i think the trump post presidency is not the same thing as the trump post republican party. i think donald trump is going to remain a very, very viable force inside the gop. >> i think that's a really great point, david. with all of this in mind, what does it mean for the biden transition to, even if not getting acknowledgement, seeing the actual machinery, if you will, the gears of the transition officially under way. >> let's make sure this is clear. this is good for the country that this is happening. it's two and a half weeks too late. there was nothing yesterday that

occurred that couldn't have occurred two and a half weeks ago, in terms of getting the ascertainment, everything queyoe seen in the last two and a half weeks with the certifications, that's pro forma happens every election cycle but that was what the gsa administrator was waiting for or until the pressure became untenable. what it means is now biden can send landing teams into these agencies. he can get briefings, his teams can start preparing and see as much as the trump administration is willing to share where things currently stand. everywhere from cdc to the defense department to the state department, across the government. so it is really -- it's hugely important that this is now beginning. what you're seeing is the formal, peaceful transfer of power. >> and the way you characterize it is the important bit. it's not important or good for the biden administration.

it's good for the country to see this transition happening and these conversations being started. all be it late, but starting in ernest. good to see you, david. thank you. thanks, kate. coming up with the u.s. surgeon general is warning the covid surge is so bad that hospitals are having to turn away people dealing with heart attacks. a new model is predicting the country could reach 20 million cases of coronavirus by inauguration day. be right back.

if, in fact, you're in a situation when you do the things that are increasing the risk, the travel, the congregate setting, not wearing masks, the chances are that you will see a

surge super imposed upon a surge. >> the nation's top infectious disease expert, dr. anthony fauci warning again that traveling for thanksgiving could make a lot more americans sick. and a majority of americans seem to be paying attention. a new poll just out finds that 61% have changed, 61% have changed their thanksgiving plans, some planning to hold smaller gatherings or only include their immediate household family. even before then we know that cases continue to surge across much of the country. the number of people so sick they need hospital care is breaking records too. more than 85,000 people are hospitalized with covid across the country right now. but even though -- but even though the cdc is urging people to avoid traveling for thanksgiving we know that millions still are. cnn's ryan young is at the airport in atlanta.

what are you seeing and hearing at atlanta's airport today? >> r. >> reporter: we've been talking to people who wanted to travel this holiday season. thaw know about the precautions. they're wearing masks for the most part. but this is the story we've seen people lining up all day over there at the security line to come in and go on their travel. we've been talking to these travelers and even the airport is passing out masks. they have hand sanitizer all over the airport and the line at some point has backed up back here. we asked people, you heard the warnings from the cdc, what do you think of about it and the numbers continue to rise, especially with hospitalization rates, are you concerned? listen to what they told us. >> we'll wear our mask even with our family. it'll be a small family so it's not going to be large. covid has been terrible but it does emphasize family values.

>> it'll help get us through it a little bit longer. being able to put your eyes on them in person. >> reporter: kate, here's the reality here as we talk to more and more people, they're tired of covid and the reality is, they want to see their family members. a lot of people are saying, they've been building up to this moment for a while. we went and talked to people who got tested yesterday in hopes they know they weren't taking covid to their family but the process of going through the airport, and the touch points between here and the airplane you can still pick it up. there are people who are concerned and say they plan to wear masks at home but in the end people feel like they needed to see family members, especially this year. >> ryan, thank you for being there. appreciate it. joining me is cnn medical analyst dr. lina wenn. good to see you. as we know clearly a negative test yesterday does not mean

that you do not get the virus today. that's one thing we know from this. i wanted to ask you about what we heard from dr. anthony fauci and how he is talking about how there could be a surge upon a surge. what does that look like? >> well, we already have the surge happening all over the country. different from what happened back in march, april in the new york area or june and july in the sun belt, we have hospitals being overwhelmed all across our country as it is. and the numbers just keep on escalating. so now we have people gathering all over the country. we have very high risk settings which is what happens when you get people indoors from different parts of the country for prolonged periods of time crowded together in poorly ventilated areas. i'm so fearful of what's going to happen in the coming weeks. i would highly urge every one if you have not travelled consider canceling and postponing the

trip. this is not for forever. we can get through the next several months and celebrate thanksgiving in the summer. >> you're fearful what this could mean i'm fearful of what we're seeing in hospitals right now, quite frankly. there are new records being broken in terms of hospitalizations all the time. the surgeon general spoke out today and put in troubling terms what he is seeing and hearing. let me play that. >> you may not be able to go in and get your heart attack treated. i've heard hospitals not being able to provide care for pregnant women because they're filled with covid beds. so that's the reality. >> look, that doesn't need much explanation of why that is so scary. what do people need to understand about what the surgeon general is warning about here? >> by definition when you have a resource that's scarce, running out, you're going to have to start rationing that resource. we saw it in china, italy at the peak of the pandemics there.

we saw this beginning to happen in the new york area. but what helped was that it was just one area of the country hardest hit so you were able to bring in health care workers and equipment from other parts of the country to help new york city. that's not going to be the case if we are overwhelmed all over the country. there just isn't a supply of additional health care workers and we're on the brink of that happening. on the brink of patients not being able to get the care they need. not only for coronavirus but for all these other ailments too. that is a collapse of our health care system and we're not that far away from it now. >> that is terrifying. your perspective is so important. you can't, you know, flying in 40, 50 medical doctors and nurses, military medical doctors and nurses all over the country as they did in new york when there was a surge here because you can't do it all over the country at once. and the pace at which the virus is spreading right now it has them putting out a new model projecting the cases in in the

united states could nearly double by january 20th, going from about 12.5 million, 12.4 million infections to 20 million infections. if that happens in this short amount of time, what will that mean? >> well, i believe this model because we are seeing that level of exponential spread happening all over the country. and what that means is, hospitalizations will lag the infections by two weeks so our hospitals are going to be seeing that level of infection and then we're going to see mortality rates jump. the only reason we've been able to see mortality rates low because we get good care. when you don't get good care you run out of staff, equipment, and you get the mortality from the other ailments too. i fear we're going to see hundreds of thousands of deaths potentially between now and the end of this winter. that's what's coming our way, and this is again why i plead with everyone. i know it's failure ultimately

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big moment for -- big moment for president-elect joe biden today. he will be formally announcing the first members of his cabinet in a couple hours from now. his nominees include historic firsts and long-time advise ers like tony blinken, picked to serve as secretary of state. janet yellen the former federal reserve chair now picked to be the first woman to serve as treasury secretary. alejandro mayorkas would be the first latino to head the department of homeland security. and avril haines picked to be the first woman as director of

national intelligence. linda thomas greenfield, a career diplomat will be nominated as the u.s. ambassador to the united nations. jake sullivan will be the president's national security advisor and former secretary of state john kerry has been tapped to serve as the first ever climate czar. in 59 days what's first for the team? one piece of advice in from president trump's secretary james mattis writing an op-ed saying the biden administration should eliminate all of america's first agenda. in practice america first has meant america alone. joining me now ian bremmer. it's good to see you, ian. what's your reaction to the team that biden is -- the foreign policy national security team that biden is putting together here? >> extraordinarily capable,

qualified. and will not cause a great ruckus in the senate. these are people that are quite well known to senior senators both democrat and republican. and they're people i personally find to have decent judgment. it's not a very partisan group. it's interesting. i agree with former secretary mattis they'll throw out america first but tony blinken who i've known for a long time, i remember putting out a piece several months ago that actually wrote about what i considered to be the top trump successes in foreign policy over his four years, almost four years and he called me up and he had taken that piece and circulated it to every member of the biden foreign policy team wanting to make sure they understood, you know, what trump was up to, how to respond to it, but also that not everything trump has done is a flaming disaster. there aren't a lot of people out there that you'd think of as

playing, you know, a major foreign policy role for a campaign that would immediately be willing to look at both sides of the foreign policy equation. and i think that this team across them, to a man, to a woman, are people driven more by analytics than they are by ideology and partisanship and i think the country really needs that. >> you said something i find interesting, the people with well known. they're not just people well known on capitol hill, they're not just people who know government, they're also people that the president-elect knows very well. which is quite a difference, really, to how trump -- president trump operated when he was coming in. we all remember the president really meeting people like james mattis and rex tillerson for the first time when he was nominating them. what do you think -- do you think that means something at the beginning of the

administration? >> i'm not surprised in the sense that trump just had never had any national security or foreign policy experience. so rex tillerson comes in, has no idea he's going to be offered a position. and suddenly be my secretary of state. that's astonishing. tony blinken was not only deputy secretary of state, so he truly understands how the position works, but he was also biden's foreign policy adviser -- top foreign policy adviser when biden himself was vice president. so one of the things i think is most important about this team coming in many is when they're meeting with foreign leaders you're going to know that they actually represent the president. that you're talking to the government. where frequently, you know, trump, you have to watch his twitter feed or watch his media interviews to know what he's thinking. if you talk to a member of his cabinet, that 345i6 nothing to do with what the policy is going to be tomorrow. so it's going to be much more deliberate, much more

considered. it'll be much more consensus in orientation. most american allies, even those that liked trump but felt like they were walking on eggshells in meetings that isn't going to be the new normal in the biden administration. >> you talked about mattis' advice of throwing out the america first agenda. how does secretary of state tony blinken make that clear to the world? >> i think it's a lot more focus on the importance of allies, alliances and institutions, things you can do early, rejoin the paris climate accord, reengage on international arms negotiations with the russians, you know, there are so many that try to engage in the -- in the new iranian nuclear deal that

president trump left. the world health organization. the top priority is going to be rolling out the vaccines for biden his first 100 days. if he gets that wrong he's going to have overnight problems. b -- to have major problems. but it's also working globally on what is a global crisis on getting treatments to everyone and vaccines to everyone. i think that's what they do. but we also need to understand that biden/obama, when they were in power, they were much more multi-lateral, they were more engaged with allies but reluctant to use power. trump is very transactional, unilateral, but uses power a lot. if you think about the wins that trump has gotten, whether it's the abraham peace accords or the u.s./mexico canada deal, it's places where the united states is much more powerful and he leverages that power to ensure that things happen.

and i think that you'll clearly get the multilateralism and some of the strategy we desperately need in a biden administration but you also hope they won't be as reluctant to deploy american power when he need it as obama/biden were for their eight years. >> somewhere in between there. and there's a lot in between you can land in between those two divisions. >> there's a lot. >> that's for sure. great to see you, ian. thank you. >> thank you. coming up kentucky is breaking records with new covid cases and the governor made a major move to stop the outbreak and he's facing big backlash. the governor joins us next.

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the covid surge is hitting the state of kentucky very hard. the governor is also sounding the alarm now about what he describes as the exponential spread in his state. more than 2,000 new infections reported yesterday alone. the highest number on a monday at any point since the pandemic began. it's followed a record breaking week of more than 20,000 new cases. facing that the governor has ordered k through 12 schools, public and private closed,

movered to online instruction only and now he has a lawsuit on his hands. joining me now is governor andy bashir. thank you for joining me. >> thanks for having me. >> the record numbers you're looking at you said you're tired of having to report them, tired of having the suffering, what is happening in your state right now in terms of the spread? >> we're being overwhelmed. we're being overwhelmed with a record number of cases. with hospitalizations going up, with numbers of individuals in the icu increasing every day. our positivity rate over the course of really two months has gone from four or five to all the way up to 9%. and it's overwhelming our contact tracing and our best defenses. take our long-term care facilities. we are testing our workers there three times a week but we still can't keep covid out of those facilities because the community spread is so high.

and one of the most heartbreaking examples is we have a veterans home in willmore, kentucky. we kept covid out of it until the middle of october since then we have lost 27 veterans to covid-19. >> oh my gosh. that is horrible, governor. >> yeah. >> that is tragic. and in facing all of that, you have put in place new restrictions in the state. new restrictions on bars and restaurants, gyms and retail and you've also ordered schools closed, moved to online instruction, some until -- for some schools until january. and you've gotten quite a lot of backlash for this. you have the state's republican attorney general suing you over this. the state's treasure, who's also a republican supporting the lawsuit. they say if day cares and offices can remain open so should schools. with this backlash you're facing are you reconsidering the schools element of the

restrictions? >> we're at war with this virus and we have two choices. to surrender and take the fatalities or to fight back. so we are throwing our best punch in a limited period of time, really about over three weeks. we are addressing the main areas where covid-19 is spreading or could be amplified, especially after the thanksgiving holiday in ways that could be deadly. in so many states you've seen a failure to act until it's past the point of no return. what the surges look like in the loss of life that come with them. i'm not willing to do that. i'm going to take action before my state hits that point. before our health care resources run out. and as far as schools, we're treating everybody the same. asking everybody to share the sacrifice over a short period of time, it's really about 21 instructional days so that we can make sure that we can lower our numbers.

and all the time that we talk about schools, which we all want open, i have a 10 and 11-year-old who do so much better in in-person classes we don't think about their teachers, people we're asking to walk into those classrooms every day when we're on fire with covid in virtually every one of their communities. we're just trying to do the right thing. the right thing is often a hard thing and it comes with criticism. these folks have sued us every time we've tried to do something is to stop covid-19. right now we can all work towards the solution which we can be effective if we all work together or some of us can try to knock down the steps we take and the result is additional lost life that we can avoid. >> you are not budging is what i hear in your voice. you will not be budging no matter the lawsuit that comes your way when you're looking at this three week period. >> we're going to do the right thing. >> as of today the biden

transition is getting into full swing. finally, when it comes to coordination with the federal government on covid, one of the most important aspects has been the information we hear from governors when they were speaking on the conference calls with mike pence or the coronavirus task force. i'm curious, what do you hope to get from the biden team that you didn't get from the trump administration? >> let me start by saying that vice president pence's team did communicate and did communicate regularly with us. right now they're helping us out with some surge testing in kentucky. what i hope that we will get from the biden administration is daily example of wearing masks, of encouraging others to wear masks, and to push that message really hard and get some uniformity in the steps that we know we have to take across the united states. >> do you think hearing -- >> i have two border states that

don't have a mask mandate. >> do you think hearing that message consistently, do you think it would have an impact, i'm going to say this late in the game? >> i think an example the president sets is important and we have seen what type of impact that can have. yes, i think it does. the president has the biggest microphone in the world and using it for good to encourage people to do the right things i think can be very powerful. >> governor, thank you for coming on. good luck over this period of time as i would say to every governor i would have on. thank you for your time. >> thank you very much. >> really appreciate it p. coming up for us the spotlight is on georgia where the trump campaign's requested recount is under way. what that means now for those critical senate runoff races.

georgia holds the key to control of the senate. the state's two senate seats are up for grabs now in a january runoff, and ads are shattering records. shy of $271 million now. more than any other race this year besides the presidential. republicans outspending democrats by some $67 million. it is huge money. but the candidates are not only dealing with that but the recount under way today. recount of the presidential race requested by the trump campaign. ryan nobles is live in atlanta with all this, is joining us now. what are you hearing about the recount, will it impact the senate runoff? >> it shouldn't, kate. the runoff should be about four candidates running for senate

with the balance of the majority hanging as an open question here. unfortunately we find a lot of republican voters that are still just as concerned about an election that already happened than they are the election that is still to come. we were at an event with david perdue in griffin, georgia, in the middle of his remarks, a trump supporter was yelling, can go him why he and kelly loeffler, the other republican, weren't doing more to try to help donald trump overturn results of the election in georgia, going against republican officials that have run the election. we talked to that gentleman after he interrupted perdue's remarks. this is what he told us. >> give me an example of some things they should be doing. >> i think they have a platform like i don't have. this is the first platform i have got. i had social media, but i think they should be using every news outlet that will give them a voice, every social media that will give them a voice that the whole election is a farce.

it is screwed up from the word go. nationwide, not just here in georgia, nationwide. >> this put republicans in an awkward condition to support the president and his efforts that seem futile, at the same time, convince voters to support them in january, and also an opening for democrats. behind me, john ossoff, running against perdue, they're able to reach out to voters, sell the message. we can't express this is for all of the marbles in the united states senate, if republicans win one of the seats, they maintain their majority. >> that's right. thank you. appreciate it. coming up, breaking news, pennsylvania certifying election results in the commonwealth making official joe biden's critical win in the key battleground state. that's next. when i was in high school, this was the theater i came to quite often. the support we've had over the last few months has been amazing. it's not just a work environment.

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breaking news coming in. pennsylvania certified its 2020 presidential election results, making it official once and for all that joe biden won the commonwealth and its critical 20 electoral votes. this comes after weeks of president trump and his attorneys trying to throw everything at it to overturn the biden/harris win, but to no avail. it is official. also happening now, stocks hitting a record high on wall

street, dow-jones crossing 30,000 the first time ever this morning. investors are encouraged uncertainty surrounding the election is ending with the formal transition process getting under way, contributing to the rally, promising results from three potential coronavirus vaccines. there you have it. thanks for joining us. kneenia malika-henderson picks coverage now. hello to viewers in the united states and around the world. i am nia malika-henderson in washington. the trump administration finally presses play on the transition, even as the president says he won't concede. a big market surge this hour. the dow crosses 30,000 after the transition moves full speed ahead. also today, a thanksgiving week test of america's coronavirus resolve. only four states pushing down coronavirus curves,