>> reporter: haines will help the future biden administration settles on another important intelligence pick. the director of the cia, a critical partner for haines and the formidable challenges that lies ahead. cnn, washington. >> thank you for joining us. anderson starts now. so it was a day where president trump heath praise on cousin eddie from the vacation movies. a day when coronavirus statistics reached to a horrible high. boy, that was a different. john berman here in for anderson. a first full day of the official government sanction transition, president-elect biden not only learned that he'll finally get the daily briefings but he put his stamp on the executive office he'll inherit in less than two months.

donald trump lost and that america's first died on election day. this is how biden described it moments ago in a new interview with nbc news. >> america's back. we are ahead of the table once again. i spoken with 20 world leaders and they all are literally really pleased and some what excited that america is going to reassert its role in the world and be a coalition builder. >> america is back says the president-elect. keeping a modesty entire tone in today's affair in terms of style and substance and mass was a dark contrast from the current president. the nominee for national intelligence told biden, you selected us not to serve you but to serve on behalf of the

american people. imagine any member of the current administration saying that to donald trump or any perspective member of any other in coming administration needing to say that at all. diversity is one key theme. avril haines would be the first woman of head national intelligence and mayorkas to made department of security. their personal backgrounds but their professional qualifications as well. that was biden today. now with all that of what we saw from president trump today, basically what voters saw the past four years, unhinged tweets and public appearances he took credit for the stock market performances but ignored the long lines of food banks in america ahead of thanksgiving. he ignored the increasing misery

that the pandemic is causing. the number is staggering. deaths approaching 260,000. moments ago we set another new high in hospitalizations, more than 88,000. that's the 15th day of new highs. tonight alone more than 1500 new deaths reported. more than 137,000 new cases. the president ignored that and would lean into personal attacks, a jab at james mattis who coarthured an op-ed telling biden to act trump's america's first policy. what you have is a contrast in both style and substance and maybe one explanation why donald trump lost and joe biden won, crossing 80 million votes tonight.

a 6 million vote edge and that's growing. kim jim acosta now. >> we did hear from joe biden that the transition so far seems to be to be sincere. the outreach from the trump team biden says does seem sincere. >> reporter: when you talk to white house officials, the only thing they'll say is we'll refer back to the president's tweets. the president has been tweeting that he's not going to concede the election. it is hard to square that circle. if you look at what's happening inside the federal government right now, that gives you indication that things are moving along. i talked to anthony fauci earlier this evening, he's talking to aides with the b biden's transition team. i talked to the white house adviser's the president still has some unhelpful voices

whispering in his ears. while we are seeing a peaceful transfer, by no means that is normal one. >> we did see the president a couple of times today. there were sort of bizarre appearances given that he began retweeting randy quad. what are we going to see from the president over the next 57 d day? what will he do or say or will he take questions? >> reporter: to quote cousin eddie, he once said, you don't need a hamburger helper. he's not taking questions about whether he's going to concede to joe biden or whether he's going to cooperate with a peaceful transfer of power. will he go to the biden's inauguration. i talked to a white house's official, at some point the

president will take questions. he's keeping it suspense. this is a train left the station without the president on board but it is a transition that's happening whether the president likes it or not. >> thank you very much, kristine todd wittman. and also former new jersey governor, david gergen, cnn's senior political analyst. president trump continues to try to overturn the results in the election. he did it in pennsylvania and michigan, trying to convince people to throw out the votes. that's still happening and is still happening. i don't think we can ever forget that. with that said, the transition itself does seem to be

beginning, how can the two walk hand in hand? >> well, first of all, i am glad to be with you john and christie. i think there are two different tracks that are going down here. one is candidate trump administration in the court that's going fail miserably. the second track is whether they could succeed in the public. we have evidence coming in that this country is deeply divided. we'll have to wait and see how people respond to biden's press conference today of the introduction of his national securi security. i am going to be curious of people who have been supporting trumper, is there going to be continuing noises or new effort pushed. b

biden is getting off to a great start. it is unfathomed that we have never been here before. >> how much can the transition itself sort of over shadow or push to the side the nonsense and the theatattrics that we continue to see. >> the president is embarrassing himself. he's looking petty and irreleva irrelevant. every time joe biden is on president, you can hear people breathe a sigh of relief, we got somebody. yes, the current president is throwing up roadblocks. yes, he is inciting his base to always consider joe biden as a fraudulent president. about 85% of those who voted for trump believes that if they still say takes the oath of office, it will be because of

fraud. that's damaging to our basics of our fundamentals of our election. this is a free election, it was a fair election and it was a balance election. people came out and vote in record numbers. the state officials are doing their job everyday. you are right, he's continuing to fight in court. there has been over 30 cases thrown out. that was also preversed in arizona. it really is. unfortunately as david says it is going to be real. it is going to be apart of our politi politics forward. biden's personality, he projects the people he's appointing. the far left party is not happy with it but they can live with them. these are people with experience and know what they are doing and they get on with their jobs no

matter what the president tries to do. i want to play a little bit of this. i want to play his interview with lester holt took place after the unveiling. he was asked who his team has been hearing from now that the gsa is agreeing with transition. >> yes. immediately we got outreach from the national security shop a and -- just across the board. they're working out and my ability to get presidential daily briefs, we are working out meeting with the covid team in the white house and how to not only distribute but get the vaccines being distributed and people getting vaccinated. i don't think we'll be not so far behind the curve as we thought we may be in the past. there is a lot of immediate discussions. i must say the outreach has been

sincere and not be grudging so far. i don't expect it to be. yes, it already begun. >> sincere and not be grudging so far, a day into that, david, what do you make into it? >> so far so good. the fact that the person who's going to be the contact is someone who only recently was as conspiracy theorist and right at the forefront of that and he's appointed to be the liaison. we'll have to see how that goes. i think it is important, there will be a lot of trump supporters disagree. joe biden has gotten off the best start of any presidents that i have seen in four yearye. >> the quality of team he supports himself with, their hue

pi millty and the way they spoke today and women breaking barriers. there are some girls are writing -- guess what, george h.w. bush was one hell of a good president on national security. i think biden surrounded himself with really good people. we all need to come down a little bit. i do think chris christie's point, he his breathing a sigh f relief that someone is there. >> you both express concerns about the unfounded questions over legitimacy of the election and they are unfounded because you know most of what is being said and not all are just lies. one thing that would help with legitimacy is a phone call or a statement from mitch mcconnell,

the senate majority leader and as we sit here tonight, i don't know if that has happened or there is been any discussion. so i know what does it tell you that mitch mcconnell, we know has a relationship with joe biden has not said anything publicly or had any public outreach yet. >> i think right now mitch mcconnell is concerned about one thing and that's the election in georgia. those are the elections in georgia, the two senate seats. he does not want to do anything that's going to upset the trump's base so they'll sit home. roger stone should be behind bars but he's pardoned by the president. he's threatening that if they do anything to undermine president trump that he'll make sure that the republicans lose their senate seat. that's what he's mainly concerned about it. i really do believe that once joe biden takes the oath of

office, will mitch mcconnell continue to be partisan? >> of course, he will. there are senators that are a lot closer as well and you have the problem solver caucus which is requires an equal number of members from each side of the isle, they come together and work out issues and they'll vote. they have come forward with a number of important legislative initiatives. they're going to come more as a force. i see this is moving forward. people want to get something done. >> the big issues have not been addressed. i can't believe we are sitting here in the midst of the pandemic. everything is gone and people lost their jobs and homes and we don't have are relief package. >> it is unbelievable. >> that in of itself would be a civil thing to do. it would be an american thing to

do. we continue to wait for it. >> governor wittman and david gergen, thank you very much. much more of the cabinet's pick just ahead. the jaiden tryioe biden is tryi signal of his picks. >> we have breaking news from the pandemic, new highs everyday. details with "360" continues. ♪ (music swells) (dog barking) ♪ (music fades) (exhales) experience the power of sanctuary at the lincoln wish list sales event. sign and drive off in a new lincoln with zero down, zero due at signing, and a complimentary first month's payment.

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president-elect rolling out his cabinet picks that contains a message that it will be a sharp contrast of the way he'll run things with the current president. dir differences united by a lengthy record and diplomacy and strong ties with allies, in several cases long tie s with the next president and none are republicans so far. >> have you consider for the sake of national unity selecting or nominating a republican, someone who voted for president trump? >> yes. we still have a lot more appointments to make. i want this country to be united, the purpose of our administration is once again uniting. we can't keep this political

dialogue going. it has to end. >> should we expect an announcement? >> no. >> not ever or not soon? >> no, not soon. >> joined now by david chalian and fareed zakaria. fareed, you heard the president-elect there, he wants to unite people. what are the picks that seems to unite people, janet yellen making secretary of treasury, making history as the first woman. you got a personal relationship with her, what kind of pressure will she face at the beginning of the economy of the pandemic being where it is. >> oh, it is an extraordinary amount of pressure. janet yellen coming into the job with more challenges. i can't remember a treasury

secretary who had as much of a challenge. you have the pandemic and the division. this time it does not appear to be on the case. the good news is janet yellen is the most qualified person ever to be appointed, nominated treasury secretary. she has been the chair of council economic advisers and she was a chair professor at a major university. she was the head of the san francisco fed. she's an extraordinary person. we saw on the yale board of trustees together. she's very, very thoughtful and careful with the words and very

discipline. she's somebody who believes the point of economics is to help people. you know for her the debates, these debates are not abstract. she makes sure that relief will get to the people. >> the market seems to think so as well. the market went up big today partially of janet yellen. >> a lot of first on that stage today with president-elect joe biden in terms of diversity to be sure and then in a way a lot of seconds which is to say a lot of people who have served as a number two in the department that they are nominated to run. what strikes you as the most important thing we saw today? >> the last point is critical difference joe biden is trying to demonstrate with the way the trump administration have runned.

he's going through deep trenches of these departments. we have a former deputy secretary of homeland security. we have a former secretary of state. people worked on the national security council and now the national security adviser. these are people who have worked these beats, john. they have been tapped to be the next people to lead seizure agencies and department. that's voter's confidence from joe biden who's going to need this foreign policy to hit the ground running with his mission of restoring relationships with allies which he says is a fundamental vision for america's strengths, those relationship with allies. >> he's going to be so consumed and economic catastrophe because of pandemic that he needs this

experience team to be out there accomplishing that mission around the world. >> fareed, i want to play a little bit more of what president-elect biden said earlier tonight. listen to this. >> this is not a third obama term. we face a totally different world than we face in the obama/biden administration. >> president has changed the landscape. at the find ourselves in a position where our alliances are being afraid. >> that's why i found people who are a joining the administration and keep points that represent the spem trum of the american people as well as the democratic party. so obviously a lot has changed in the trump administration. how did the mention of this team and what are the specific challenges they face in this

post trump war. >> they are superb team. he found very bright people. these are people who really are frustrate thinkers and implementers. they have the experience and they are ready on day one. it is a huge challenge because you have a different world out there. we are not living in a uni-polar. part of it the united states does not want to play that role. if you look at obama and trump, the one commonality is we are trying various ways to have the united states play a some what different role. obviously different how they express it. the second is other countries

have become more powerful and confident and more aware. the third one is china is essentially the other super power. we are living in a bipolar world. we have not had that before for a long time. these people men and women are going to have to really rethink core assumptions about america's foreign policies. i think you said it yourself, are you better off with a team of people who spent their lifetime thinking of these issues and talking to allies across the world or better off with a bunch of people donald trump saw on tv or liked the way they looked or met once at a party or interviewed once. i am literally describing trump's cabinet and his method of selection. obviously you see what joe biden has done. it does not change the fact that it is a huge challenge but what he has shown that he trusts

intelligence and experience and expertise. he wants a team for all these people to work together. that makes a difference. ultimately ultimately, we are all in this together. >> 80 million people we know shows what you were just describing there of joe biden. does it mean that david chalian that 51 senators will necessarily vote to confirm them all. senator rubio could not wait to get a statement criticizing all these national security picks. that may be more of rubio 2024 than anything else. what do you think of the prospect are? >> notice how much of republican criticisms out of the gates through the redskilens of china.

this is a closely divided senate or republicans maintaining control. you are talking about an evenly divided senate. there is going to be political squirmishes that's going to take arms twisting not just to get the agenda through. i think the crew that was introduced today will have a smooth time. >> david chalian and fareed zakaria. both of you have a great thanksgiving if i don't get a chance to see you. the fine print reveals a different reality. that's next. ♪

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> as president-elect biden and his team is shifting into high-gear, team trump, too, is moving forward. the new trump's fund raising called "save america," each contribution of $5,000 will go to save america. it is a leadership pack president trump launched less than a week after the election. joining me now to discuss is mike shields, former chief of

staff a staff. mike, how much do you want the political money in the country right now to be flowing into a leadership pack for a guy who's out of office on january 20th? >> well, a couple of things. there is money also flowing into the two georgia's senate campaigns. they are well funded of record number of dollars going into that and two outside super pac to help with races. a lot of republicans are going to be happy with that. he's still going to play a role with trump's voters presenting the party moving for ward. he plans to continue to have a

political voice after he's out of office. >> traditionally that's what most people do. donald trump is not most people. are you 100% that he'll use this money to work on behalf with others? you don't have to if you have a place like mar-a-lago. >> well, look, i think it is known that donald trump has money and he's setting up the pack to pocket the money. he does not have to do that. he didn't have to run for office in the first place. it was not anything he needed and a lot of politicians like joe biden. he does not need the money, he wants to have a voice and control things and be in a position to dictate the terms of the debate going into the 2024 election. if you are going to do that, there is some legal reasons to

do that. >> fakari, how concern are democrats to have a former president down at mar-a-lago who may be spending the money on himself, maybe spending the money on others but probably trying to get attention one way or another, how much of a problem can he cause? >> first of all, i don't think anybody is concerned of donald trump raising money. he's never been a prolific fundraiser. that's number one. number two, he's very much self-centered and the majority of the money he's going to raise we all believe will go to him or the people that he owes. there is no president of the history of the united states who has more financial issues looming over them than donald trump. i mean i love and appreciate mike but the fact the matter is

when donald trump leaves office, he's going to have a debt. it is a whole lot. i don't anticipate donald trump doing much for the republican party. i do anticipate donald trump holding his bit of leverage over the trump's base over the republican party. this is still going to be donald trump's party. it is going to be self-serving. i don't think democrats have much to worry about. if donald trump's name on the ballot then you have a turnout problem. no one anticipates him doing the work necessary. it is a juice turning out to other republicans. mike, to that point, georgia, donald trump's name is not on the ballot. how much do you think these two run-offs will be. >> donald trump is a tremendous party builder. the comparison between him and barack obama who really eviscerated the dnc and took all the data and infrastructure from

them, they still have not recovered. donald trump was a massive fundraiser for the rnc and around the country, a tremendous party builder and i say that as someone who worked in the party structure with him. there is money in that structure that he's raising that's going to help fund the georgia races. those are essentially special electio electio elections. it is an odd time to have a special election because democrats just won the white house and they are happy about that and republicans are angry and they want revenge and win a couple of races and we have seen record numbers of ballots being questioned. >> my question, to what extent a referendum on the president? >> there is as special election in georgia and people understand now that joe biden is going to be in the white house and senate is up for grabs, do we want to give the democrats and the white

house a blank check. it will be difficult for dams to overcome. >> bakari, you are a young man in politics, i am struck by marco rubio and ted cruz and tom cotton and all they're doing now is the younger generation of republicans, i wonder what they really think as they see donald trump exiting stage left or maybe not really exiting stage left. they are doing everything they can not to alienate him and none of them have acknowledged the results of the election yet in any real way. does donald trump cut-off their ability, his presence cut-off their ability to build their own organization and do what they want to do going forward? >> marco rubio and ted cruz and tom cotton, i am glad you ask this question, john. the republican party have done

an awesome job of grooming a new generation of elected officials and allowing them the opportunity to lead and share leadership roles and allowing them the opportunity to flourish the main stage. when you name ted cruz and marco rubio and tom cotton. they're simply afraid of donald trump. you can't be him. the fact that all three of these grown men want to emulate somebody else, particularly ted cruz, someone talks about your wife and your dad, you don't want to be them, you fight them. you want to punch them in the

jaw and keep moving. >> thank you, both. >> happy thanksgiving. breaking news on coronavi s coronavirus, a new record high for hospitalizations in the u.s. why the task force is considering changing the 14-day quarantine period when "360" continues. ♪ (music swells) ♪ ♪ (music fades) (exhales) experience the power of sanctuary at the lincoln wish list sales event. sign and drive off in a new lincoln with zero down, zero due at signing, and a complimentary first month's payment. five blades and a pivotingglide flexball designed to get virtually every hair on the first stroke, while washing away dirt and oil. so you're ready for the day with a clean shave and a clean face.

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united states senat a new recor of the number of people hospitalized with coronavirus. tonight hospitalizations is at 88,000. new deaths reported today. more than 146,000 cases today. the task force is considering tweaking guidelines if possible shortening the quarantine period for those infected or anyone in close contact with someone receiving a positive diagnose. >> as you know it is quarantined for 14 days and half of the people become symptomatic on day five. the posture and the cdc is looking at will be driven by data. if you get a test on day 7 or

day 10, can that shorten quarantine of 14 days or perhaps 10 days. >> joining me now is the governor of kansas, the director of global health, medical center. doctor, i want to start with you. this possible change of the quarantine period shortening a little bit. what do you make of it? >> you said after the most important thing after talking to the cdc, this decision is made on science alone. the overwhelming majority of people will likely test positive by day 9 or day 10. there is a small percent text messamage of people tested positive for that.

again, this has to be based on the science alone. >> looking at the examples we have learned over the last nine months and that's a good thing. other things, secretary, i don't think we have learned so well and that has to be behavior. the white house's task force really caught my attention. significant behavior change of all americans. significant behavior change of all americans. how possible is that at this point? >> well, i think it is only possible if it is left from the top. if the american public is allowed to hear regularly from scientists about what's going on, if we have cleared national guidelines which we never have. and we don't blame the public of what's happening and acknowled e the fact that we never have a plan.

shortening the quarantine period makes sense? maybe if scientists say so. no state is doing effective contact tracing because the virus is so far ahead of it. if you want a test return on day 7 and you don't have symptoms, you don't have ready access to fast, reliable tests. we are still in the same discussion we were having in february and march about testing and about protocol and opening guidelines and the virus is winning this particular chapter. i think we need to regroup and have a national plan and then start to talk about behavior that models that national plan. >> meanwhile, hospitalizations reaching a new record level, more than 88,000 people hospitalized of the 15th consecutive days as we have seen

hospitalizations. i know you are planning to spend thanksgiving in the e.r. what kind of strain is this putting on hospitals around the country? >> the last two big waves peaked around 60,000 people. what we are seeing right now is cases rising everywhere. we are seeing hospitalizations throughout the country and today we got over 2,000 deaths. the highest number of deaths we had sense april. all of these indicators are continuing to climb. now i hear a lot of people we'll get more beds, well, you need five or six really highly trained professionals and nurses and respiratory techs and doctors to take care of one sick covid patients. this is not just going out to ikea to get more beds, you need highly trained physicians and a lot of us are exhausted and we are tired. over a thousand healthcare

providers have died from covid themselves and many more are getting sick because we don't have enough ppe in the country. the system can't last much longer if we continue to have such a crush of new cases throughout the country. >> secretary, you got a unique perspective both being in the cabinet and >> you've got a unique perspective, in the government. when it comes to getting the vaccine to people who need it most, what do you think the biggest challenge will be? got about a minute left. >> national plan. governors need to know exactly what the federal government will be. and federal government has logical ability. being told the vaccine will come at some point and they need to figure out the rest.

that's unworkable. needs to be national strategy, federal government plots out how to get vaccine to locations, vulnerable folks first, then the governors can take it from there. needs to be collaborative and transparent and hasn't been so far. >> thank you for the work you're doing and will continue to do. just ahead, shifting gears, bring you unlikely bond between prisoners and prep school students. lisa ling with that story, next. humira patients,... ...this one's for you. you inspired us to make your humira experience even better... with humira citrate-free.

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one of punishment in season premier of "this is life with lisa ling," a prison and prep school that formed a bond over literature. here's a preview. >> how you feeling? >> nervous, we're inside. >> guiding hudson and other students through the security gates is english and theology teacher jim. do you talk about what they're about to embark on before they go in? >> it's tricky, don't want to give away much, want it to be a healthy shock. geography matters, getting out in community matters. always telling students not to let school get in the way of their education. there's a lot to see out there. >> amazing. now the host, lisa ling. students from all boys school in california from inmates of

nearby prison with largest concentration of men serving life sentences. why does this program work and why do you want to focus on it? >> thanks for having me on. eight weeks of the year, elite prep school students go into soledad. and it houses more inmates serving life sentences than any other prison in the state. every eight weeks they study and interpret a different book. and what happens during the course of the eight weeks is pretty transformative for the inmates and students. reason i felt compelled to tell this story is a few years ago after reading a particular novel, inmates decided they wanted to do something for a young man to be able to attend the school. most inmates if they have jobs make average of about 10 cents an hour, but decided to start a

scholarship and raised about $30,000 to put a young man who otherwise might have difficult time putting himself through this expensive boys school. past year, cy green graduated having almost entire education paid for by inmates at the prison. >> i knew that story already and still got chills hearing it again. so moving. obviously the prisoners feel connected to the students. what does each group get out of this? >> you would think would be the inmates that would benefit from having young men come in and read with them. but what really surprised me was seeing the transformation that happened among the students. because these inmates, not talking all inmates at prison but in this particular program, they were so candid about crimes and remorseful about things they had done but also evolved with

their emotions and recognized how trauma they experienced as young person affected course of the rest of their lives and they shared it with these young men. week after week would see the young men become incredibly candid about things they may have been holding inside themselves for long periods of time and start to divulge things they had been holding inside of them. it was really powerful. heard some students say i've known aidan my whole life and never knew his father suffered from als and passed away. knew so and so all my life and never knew his parents had unfaithful relationship. it really was about the students getting permission to be able to feel. something that is so important for young men to be able to do. >> two episodes premiering sunday night. young men and boys, as father of

13-year-olds, i look forward to it. thanks so much for being with us. >> thanks for having me, john. tune in to powerful new season of "this is life with lisa ling," back-to-back episodes this sunday on cnn. "full circle," digital news show, 6:00 p.m. eastern on cnn, any cnn app on demand. now it's "cuomo prime time." welcome to "prime time." president-elect joe biden. he has a difficult job ahead but mandate. more than 6 million more people came out for trump in a strong rejection of trump's notion of what a president is. biden, we see with