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welcome back to a special edition this friday, i am pamela brown. the president and his campaign wrapped up another loss, pushing back against trump's baseless claims. the court writing free and fair election are the life blood of our democracy. calling an election unfair does not make it so. >> charges require specific allegations and then proof. we have neither here. >>. >> there is no way that biden got 80 million votes.
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the only way is through massive fraud. there is no way. >> can you give us a timeline when you're going to present the evidence of voter fraud? > >> it is happening now and we are in court. >> trump is hoping that a conservative open court would be open to his plea. the campaign could not win this lawsuit is what the judge says. the biden campaign is dismissing tru trump's effort to overturn the election. "desperate and embarrassingly merritless lawsuits like this one will continue to fail and will not change the fact that joe biden will be sworn in on january 20, 2021.
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in fact, biden picked up 132 votes after the recount. and tonight president-elect biden is forging ahead with the transiti transition process. he's expecting to fillmore key cabinet positions. mj lee is the president-elect biden in delaware and jeremy diamond is outside the white house. is the biden campaign worried of team trump say they're going to the supreme court next? >> no, pam, they are not. this captures the two different worlds we are talking about. first, there is this alternate reality where donald trump and his team are still trying to challenge the results of the election weeks after the election have been called and there is the real world in delaware where president-elect biden and his transition team
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are moving full speed ahead with the transition process building out their future government and administration and you know it is interesting that the biden's spokesperson responded forcefully to this decision from the federal appeals court rejecting the trump campaign's efforts to revive this lawsuit, challenging the result in this critical state of pennsylvania. let me read a little bit more from that statement. donald trump and rudy giuliani and their debunked allegations of voter fraud have been reject rejected out of hand by yet another court. this election is over and donald trump lost. we expect a busy week for the president-elect biden. we know biden is going to receive his presidential daily briefing. since he has been elected president. that's going to happen on
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monday. later in the week, we expect that he'll be announcing some members of his economic team and one of those people could be janet yellen who's expected to be his treasure secretary and defense secretary, those names have not been announced yet. all of those things are still to come. president trump is making these baseless allegations of widespread voter fraud. pam. >> mj lee, thank you so much. let's go over to jeremy die monomond at the white house. not one but two defeats for joe biden today. >> reporter: almost everyone around the president does see the writing on the wall. the president himself at times also sees the writing and understands that he lost this election and there is little to
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no chance to overturn the results. the president is not letting up and he made it clear yesterday. he took questions from reporters for the first time that he'll push these baseless voter fraud allegatio allegations. one thing is december 14th, that's when the electoral college vote will vote for the president of the united states, validating joe biden's victory and you know confirming he'll be the 46th president of the united states. the president will continue these efforts. what's interesting is he's trying to undermine joe biden's victory as much as he's trying to over curreturn the election. the irony is by continuing to suppress his case, he's helping to pobolster the argument and t
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case that there is no wide voter fraud. these judges, one after the next saying there is no merit and there was no widespread voter fraud will be validated by the highest state of supreme court. the trump's legal team says they'll continue to push it all the way there. you may see a court of conservative, three justices appointed by the president. donald trump's claims are baseless. >> right, we are seeing judges' refutes and the lack of evidence in these lawsuits. that's part of that story. jeremy diamond. thank you so much. we appreciate it. our chairman of the u.s. election assistant commission in part tests and certifies voting machines. we should point out he was appointed to this post by president trump. ben, thank you for coming on. let's talk about the president
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today. first off, his tweets, biden can only enter the white house as president if he can prove his 80 million votes were not illegally obtained. after losing their bit to over turn election results in pennsylvania today. his campaign lawyer says "onto scotus." how frustrated that the president is still trying to undermine the election over the will of the people. >> it is very troubling. those 8 million votes that president-elect biden has been confirmed by the men and women who run our elections across the country. we have certified results in a number of states now and again the people who run our elections have said that those totals we have seen no evidence of widespread fraud as you were saying moments ago. the significant of litigation of
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the president and his allies of one win and 38 boxes failed to provide evidence of fraud to the cour courts. clearly joe biden have won this race and election officials who return or election says that. that's how our democracy works. that's the process. >> right. >> the former director of insecurity agency is sitting down since trump fired him, calling this election "the most secured election in history." here ais a clip that came out. >> let me ask you a question of the vote fraud, votes tabulated across the country. all vote in the united states of america are counted in the united states of america.
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i don't understand this claim. all votes of the united states are counted in the united states of america. period. >> look, i think we can go on with all the claims that alleging interference in the 2020 election, but, the proof is in the ballots. the recounts are consistent with the initial count. that's further evidence, that's confirmation and that's system used in the 2020 election. the american people should have 100% confidence in their votes. >> so ben, you were also nominated by president trump, you were calling out the president rhetoric here. how important for others to come forward to reassure that was a fair and free election? >> it is very important for a
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couple of reasons. you are absolutely right. this election was free and fair and it was a fantastic election, the men and women running our election and the public and states and locals. nearly 160 million americans made their voices heard. these allegations and conspiracy theories that are not backed up with any evidence. they ahave consequences. over 70 million americans voted for the president. many of them believe these claims. that's a real impact. we can't forget you know that we have seen these in the past. we have seen baseless claims of voter fraud many time in the past. when the rubber hits the road, there is no widespread evidence across. we do see these claims used to pass laws that make it harder for people to participate and
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disenfranchise some americans. the vote and the consequence of the faith o f the people in process. we may see some legislatures use these to push voters. >> they think this election was stolen and joe biden did not legitimately win the election. >> it is very concerning. you see these conspiracy theories online but when you look at the people who run our elections, the professionals and public servants that know more about the elections than anyone in the country do a great job. these people, republicans and democrats work in bipartisan teams. there are so many checks and balances through out our process. the system has been set up where
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you have all these checks and balances. you have transparency throughout the process. all of that is to make sure our elections are fair and accurate. the certified results reflect the will of the american people. that's exactly what we have this year in this election. it was again considering all of the challenges, it was remarkable the job that our administratione do and we shoul give them the credit for that. >> ben hovland, thank you for coming on. alice stewart and our director for dnc, erin benny. ladies, lovely to see you. alice, let's start with you. you are a republican. three weeks after the election, trump is refusing to out right
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the steps that he lost the election. today he had two more setback in pennsylvania and wisconsin. as someone that supported president trump and supported him in the past, how damaging is this for the country and what is your message to him? >> the message is let's put this behind us and move on. we have an important election coming up in january in georgia. i think it is critical. we have free and fair elections in this country to reenforce of what was said. there are plenty of checks and balances up and down our election process. the integrity of our election is the corner stone of our democracy. we have a free and fair election, when donald trump won four years ago and free and fair election this year when he did not win. any comments to the contrary is damaging to our election. if there is evidence of rigged
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election or has been wrongful votiing or counting, i would la vegas to see the evidence. i don't see anything, votes are in and have been counted and tabulated and margins are too big. it is important to move forward and working on the transition to the biden administration. >> as someone who supports the president, he basically said they're going to do this. he said before the election that it is rigged. are you surprised by how far he has taken it? >> i am. i had a concern on election night when he started talking about the e rrigged election. this far out, we have not won any legal challenges in court. i am not certain how many times we have to hear these claims
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having no merit. it is almost as though they are stitching a parachute after they jumped out of a plane and it is not good for this country. to be quite honest, like i said i voted for this president, i wanted him to win. if he looks in the windshield and sees the political future for him, he needs to put election 2020 in the rear-view mirror and looking ahead to 2022 and 2024. >> karen, carkaren to you now. president-elect biden chekeeps talking about unity and coming together. do you think this reflect how divided this country right now and what can biden do to bring this message to life? >> the republican party is reaping what they have sew.
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they have cuddled the fragile ego of donald trump and let him play games with our democracy. we are in a situation where he's continuing to raise the states and live in an alternate reality and not accepting facts. joe biden and kamala harris overwhelmingly won the election. they won it in large measure by talking about unity and how you bring this country together because the majority of americans are sick and tired of the divisiveness and politics against one another, i mean you saw that clearly this is what americans voted for. a thanksgiving message from joe biden was about unity and acknowledging. we do the hard things and we have got to come back together so that we can move forward.
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you have donald trump again whining and complaining of no evidence and no facts pushing these theories that are inaccurate and false. it is critically important to be talking about unity and see joe biden to lead in this moment to restore the confidence that the american people needed to have. >> karen finney and alice stewart. we appreciate it. breaking news, the u.s. is closing in on nearly 200,000 cases just today. the cdc is preparing to hold the emergency meeting on who can get the vaccine first. >> the midwest ravage by the
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illness of no signs of the virus stopping. one of the master minds behind the nuclear program was assassinated. we'll be back. -audrey's expect. -twins! ♪ we'd be closer to the twins. change in plans. at fidelity, a change in plans is always part of the plan.
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coronavirus tonight. this is 17 straight days of hospitalizations. it is unclear of a lack of data due to thanksgiving. all of this is coming the cdc is pulling an emergency meet next week to see who would be first to receive the vaccine. dr. shackchacner and dr. wyn. what do you expect to see on the emergency meeting on tuesday? >> healthcare workers will be the first in line. the people who mcare for
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patients. and also people who work in nursing homes and likely also to include nursing home residence. of course they are frail and if you are in the nursing home, thanks to many people there and the patients at the same time. that's a practical and efficient way to do that. >> do you think the cdc needs to release guidelines to get this vaccine. anyone else who does not fit into that is wondering when will i get mine? i think so. i have been urging my colleagues to move forward a little more rapidly and let people know the second in line or third in line. you know in the past they have discussed essential workers, 7 million of would be next and after that people who are 65 or older and underlying illnesses
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if you are younger than 65. so that may be the direction eventually. they have have not committed that yet. there are people everywhere and in every medical institution and local health departments are all planning. >> obviously, yeah, you want to be prepared and ready to go. president trump is claiming the vaccine is ready next week. we know the fda is not meeting until december 10th. how long will it take for a vaccine to really bring us a form of normalcy. something that so many of us are craving right now. >> well, we are talking about vaccines because there is hope on the horizon. beyond our wildest imagination that we can have two vaccines and even more that this is
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effective and appears to be safe so far. it is great news. and i also think that it will probably be late spring or early summer before we can get back to some type of normalcy and we can gather with our friends and family at that point. the key though right now is we can't let our guards down. we have to hunker down and get through this difficult winter ahead. the vaccine will make a big difference in the spring and summer. they're not going to make a difference right now. that's why i urge everyone to look at the numbers. we are still far from rounding the corners, if anything we are rounding the corner into a calamity. that's what we have. we are still going to exceed more than 4,000 deaths every single day here in the u.s. >> we are going to see those numbers rise because people got together with their loved ones for the holiday.
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dr. shaffner, the u.s. have more than 13 million coronavirus cases. what do you think about that? behind every number which people can get to, there is a life impacted and a family impacted. it is important that we hunker down the next seven months. >> we knew that we were not diagnosing each and every case. early on there was not enough testing. we know there are many people who have infections but never become symptomatic . giving a number is really impressive and that number is high.
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the other side of that coin is there are still many, many people across the country who have not yet become infected. this virus has plenty more people to infect. as dr. wen says we are not careful and social distancing. >> it is just an important point and as we are sitting here having this discussion and people may be watching this right now. the virus could impact them. it could be hospital sizized an people could even die. it has not happen yet. tsa expect sunday to be the busiest travel day since the start of the pandemic with more than a million people heading home after the thanksgiving. what do these people need to do as they return home? >> everyone who has traveled and been in gatherings of people who are not in their household, they
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should quarantine once they get back. those gatherings and in-door gatherings with many people who are not wearing masks for a long period of time, those are the highest risk for transmitting coronavirus, you should quarantine for at least seven days and get tested. if you are unable to get a test, you should quarantine for 14 days. i mean a whole quarantine, don't go to work or school, keep safe. >> dr. wen and shaffner, thank you very much for that important information. the horrific toll the pandemic is taking on the medical workers, overwhelmed professionally and personally. i will speak to two of them who know it firsthand. iran says its top leader was assassinated and now teheran is threatening attacks. we'll be back. we're all finding ways to keep moving.
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rising covid cases are reeking havoc in the midwest. 28,000 hospitalizations reported today. today reported 71,000 active cases statewide and more than 1700 people in the hospital. north dakota is reporting 97 cases. out front now who frontline workers are experiencing what is happening in those states.
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thank you both for coming on. cases started to rise in mid-pocket. what's the situation like there now? >> our cases are still rising in all of wisconsin and we are keeping our eye on everything that's going on and making sure that we have all the right tools to support public health. and everything that's needed for the pandemic. >> there is a big strain on resources right now. >> there is a huge strain so whether it is ppe or staffing or
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just resources that you need for overtime, it is just a lot. we don't have the resources to meet the need that we have especially our staffs start to get sick or quarantine themselves. we are constantly trying to figure out how to -- it can be difficult and nursing homes to our ambulances and emergency rooms and schools and our local bars and restaurants. >> nice. the ripple effect goes on and on. earlier this week the white house task force north dakota had the highest number new cases for thousands of people. contact tracing stopped because the number of case haves been so high. what do you tell to people when you speak to them? what are those conversations like when you tell them what the situation is.
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>> yes, so all that tells us that point now is reaching out and have you been made aware of your covid test results. you make them aware and educate them and let them know who they need to contact and what they should be doing. >> what's that reaction? you are covid positive, what kind of reaction are you getting from people? so there are still some that's a little surprised especially those that are being careful with masking and sanitizing everything like that. but, there are others for the majority i should say are very resigned in general. we are tired and it is not a surprise if you do test positive at this point. >> sounds like they're just kind of numbed to it.
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p patty, this is personal for you, you lost your father to this virus, he contracted at nursing home and you had other family members contacted. describe the impact this virus had on you? >> so as a family who a lot of my siblings and my children work in public service so we understand the risk that we take by working in public service. first it was my sister in law who tested positive and then my brother-in-law and my sister and my niece then my dad tested positive at the nursing home. and last week after the funeral because he was in quarantine and his wife and children have it. it impacts us personally but we still have to do our work. the one thing that our dad did was raise us all to be hard
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workers and really have a lot of empathy for people even though we are doing the work and we know there are a lot of people that still don't want 100% believe what's going on. we still have to be sympathetic to everyone that's impacted by this pandemic. >> and you are grieving, too. the loss of your father. kaleigh, what is this experience for you as for someone who wants a future in nursing? >> it is scary, i am not a nurse yet and i can't go and work and help the team so to say or the public to the fullest degree that i would be able to. it is also so -- you are watching people be traumatized, i would agree whether you are covid positive or not, you have a family member personally
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passed away or not. watching people just in general being traumatized and the country as a whole going through this and knowing that's the work force and that's what's going to be left to help fix and clean up is a big job. again, it was said when you dedicate your life to the public service, that's all you want to do. >> incredible to hear from both of you. thank you for all the work that you are doing to fight this pandemic. patty and kaylee, appreciate you coming on. >> thank you. up front, up in the casnext assassination of the architect iran's nuclear program and ramification of threats of revenge. candidates in florida, close state races to victory. >> it never showed up anywhere. she was not registered to vote until she filed.
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i . the scientist in iran died after his car was ambushed.
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the vehicle was targeted by gunfire. there are serious indication of israelis roles. this has to be of the revenge on the attacker. al alex, iran is accusing israel of being behind this attack. why is that and how is israel responding? >> that's right. what you read there from the iran foreign minister accusing israel th israel. this scientist is someone that israel was after. he was called out by benjamin netanyahu back in a speech in 2018. he was the prominent nuclear scientists in iran. he was involved in the nuclear program and officially ended, he was still senior in the
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revolutionary gardens still believed to be involved in the ongoing nuclear program. on israel's side there is no denial or confirmation. here in washington, the government is very quiet. one official telling cnn that they are closely watching the situation and the last thing that the u.s. need right now is a conflict with iran. the message is very clear. we'll find your most senior people and we'll take them out. so how much of this remains to be seen. so now you have two very senior figures killed within a year,
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iran will feel pressure to respond as a new u.s. administration is coming in. pam, this complicates things for president biden. >> alex, thank you so much. let's talk to our bob berry, our security analyst and susan glaser, great to see you both. what is your take on this assassination. why is this important for the u.s. to really focus on right now? >> it is almost certainly israe israelis are carrying this out using proxies. this is a full on attack against a nuclear program. this is additional attack. in july, killing these other scientist and the rest of it.
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the israelis are telling us they're not giving up and they're going after this. will the iranians respond this time and frankly i don't think they will because they don't want to provoke this president. president trump is itching to attack iran. >> what about the people in the u.s. may hear about this, what's the significance of this? why should people be paying attention of this to the u.s.? >> well, pam it is because the iranians look like they're heading to again going back to billing a nuclear bomb there and enriching yu rauranium to a hig degree. this is a secret program run by the islamic revolutionary guard core. it is an exponential threat to a lot of people in the country. we are being forced in the corner to do something at this point to stop them. >> it is not just the head of
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iran's revolutionary guard. a top adviser says this country will avenge his death. how significantly does this increase tension in the middle east? >> well, this was always going to be a hard time with the presidential administration with donald trump ending. it is important to know that wi while israelis are the ones carrying out this assassination. there is a high level of coordination between the trump administration and israelis. donald trump tweeted out several tweets this morning appears to celebrate this killing in iran today. number two, you had mike pompeo in the region just last week meeting with baa benjamin netanyahu, coordinated on iran housing the last several years. i think very much of the last time there was a change over and benjamin netanyahu was concern of a less favorable u.s.
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administration coming into power when george w. bush and barack obama and ejoe biden to power, benjamin netanyahu launched a war. there is a high risk factor of destabilization in the nation as a result of this as we may see before january 20th when joe biden takes office. >> right, it comes after the assassination assassinati assassinati assassinati assassination -- how careful do you think the u.s. needs to tread right now? >> well, i worry about this president. i agree we are closer to a war than we have been in a long time. if you are looking at the people who want a war now is the time to do it when you have this administration. let's not forget even though we have no direct involvement in this assassination, the iranians
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are going to blame us. we probably did coordinate with the president tweeting which is not helpful and this president is, you know, is running a gigantic risk and we can have a major war in the gulf and it would be devastating. let's see what the iranians do. if they give him cause, i think this president will attack. >> >> well, i think that is the risk factor, right now. number one, it could be a way of just pressuring biden making diplomacy's less likely to succeed because biden has said he is likely to return to the iran nuclear deal. so, that is a possibility that we are seeing. there is a concern that trump's been surrounded by hawkish advisers, from day one, he said this is the worst deal ever. he is pulling out of it. but he is leaving office, with iran, actually, potentially
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closer to a nuclear weapon than when he came into office. so i think that is a big problem, all the way around. >> susan glosser, thank you very much. out front next. dark money that may have had an impact on elections. did phantom candidates give some republicans an edge? come on, no no n-n-n-no-no only discover has no annual fee on any card.
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well, tonight, there are growing questions about three state senate races in florida. and each of the races, there was a candidate who didn't campaign or hold any fundraisers. instead, there's evidence to suggest they were planted, using so-called dark money, to allegedly syphon votes from democratic candidates. cnn investigative correspondent, drew griffin, is out front. >> reporter: it was the closest of races. incumbent democrat, rodriguez, lost his florida state senate
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seat by just 32 votes. the republican challenger who won? iliana garcia, a founder of latinas for trump. but there was a third candidate in this race playing the role of spoiler. his nape? alex rodriguez. sharing the same last name as the democrat in the race, and promoted as a liberal. alex rodriguez got more than 6,000 votes. jose rodriguez said the candidate cost him his seat by pulling away democrat votes. >> have you ever met him, seen him, has he been involved in any debates? >> i didn't even know what he looked like, until investigative reporters tracked him down. >> democrat patricia sigman. >> she had no website. she never participated in any of the debates or forums.
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never showed up, anywhere. she wasn't even registered to vote until she filed. >> reporter: in these races and one another, ghost candidates in florida were presented by mysterious pacs in mostly-identical advertising mailers, making those candidates seem liberal. yet, cnn has learned the people behind the mailers were all republicans. ben wilcox, research director of the nonpartisan watchdog group, integrity florida, says, no doubt, someone running a dark-money campaign impacted at least one state senate seat, possibly two. >> florida is regulated when it comes to financing a campaign. it's probably legal but it really shouldn't be. >> reporter: two brand new political action committees registered on the same date, at the same minute. and, one day later, received a combined $550,000 in donations,
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from the same company. the paperwork says the pacs were started by two young women, whose social media is filled with pictures of beaches and boats. but cnn could find no evidence either of them or their pacs had ever been involved in politics. then, on the very same day, both pacs paid the same printing company all of that $550,000 for the flyers. it it's their only expenditure. linked to this man, a tallahassee-based consultant and former republican congressional intern. the company is run out of this house, owned by his mom and step dad. and despite being involved in ghost-candidate advertising with very liberal and progressive ideas, every one of them is a registered republican. that even includes the ghost candidate, alex rodriguez, who was registered republican until
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this election. and none of them are talking. >> we've been looking for alex. is he around? >> no, he will be back tomorrow, though. >> that's actually alex rodriguez, who lied here about his own identity. the money flowed in from one company, proclivity. it's registered in delaware, as a corporation, under the name richard alexander. what or who is proclivity? the trail ends here at a strip mall in atlanta, georgia. this is where proclivity has a mailbox drop but nothing else. >> democrats are calling for an investigation into who paid for all of this. >> they don't run in order to win. they run, in order to just try to syphon off votes. and you know, they don't have a website. they don't campaign. they don't show up. they -- they're ghosts. >> reporter: florida's republic republican senatorial campaign
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committee. cnn has repeatedly reached out to the ghost candidates, the republican stratd gist republican strategists, even the company that supplied more than a half million dollars, and none of them are talking. drew griffin, cnn, atlanta. >> thanks for joining us. cnn's original series "first ladies" starts now. there are a few first ladies, who really are milestones, cultural milestones, who help us understand what's going on in larger society. >> it took me some time doing a little dreaming, to be standing right here, today. >> she hadn't forgotten that journey and the challenges that she faced. >> in this great