amazon was primed for a pandemic. i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. yesterday was so-called black friday which i always thought was the day when retailers historically moved from the red to black, from deficit to profitability. there's another exchangeplanati originated here in philadelphia in 1951 police used the term to refer to heavy pedestrian and vehicular traffic amidst a pandemic, nothing could seem like a more dated prospect than the protefitability of store

fronts. spreading covid-19 includes, quote, going shopping in stores just before or after thanksgiving. no wonder then, those businesses which thrive these days are online. for black friday alone, preliminary data from adobe analytics put yesterday's online sales on price to amount to 8.9 billion and 9.6 billion, that would be an increase between the 20% and 29% from last year. amazon is not the only retailer benefitting from an online boom. the national retail federation expects that sales from online and other nonstores will increase between 20% and 30%. between 202 billion to 218 billion. up from 268 billion last year. how telling it the front page on "the new york times" is this, amazon hires at record clip 1400 per day. the story reports that amazon

added 427,300 employees between january and october. pushing its workforce to 1.2 million people globally. that's up more than 50% from a year ago. for amazon, the pandemic has been clearly good for business but is amazon's success good for the rest of justice us? if anything, it's very dominant and very little competition. according to my next guest, there are proportionate more american households that belong to amazon prime than will decorate a christmas tree, own a pet, vote in elections, belong to a house of worship or even own a gun. due to the pandemic we've just gone through years of change in just a matter of months. that's the observation of scott galloway in a brand-new book. in it, he argues that the pandemic has not been an agent of change, but an accelerant of

trends under way. galloway is the most sought-after experts on the impact of the social world. he's a serial entrepreneur, stern school of business, author and best-selling author now of were the post coronavirus from crisis to opportunity. this is it professor scott galloway. years have changed in a matter of months. is that good news, professor? >> yeah, you referenced amazon. depends on which side of the coin you're on. if you're e-commerce, it's taken 18 years to get to 18% of retail. in eight weeks we length two 28%. we've seen six years of acceleration, working at home at the same time, if you make less than $40,000, 40% of those people have had job

interruptions and only 10% can work from home. we've seen dysfunctional futures in our economy have become dystopian. but if you're on the right side of this, on remote work or anything around e-commerce, it's never been a better time. it's a k-shaped economy, best and worst of times. value headed up and down like this. >> the book is tremendous, offers great insight. i hope you take this as a compliment. it was sort of the 2020 version of "mega trends" which i read many years ago. the key word is not change but acceleration. explain. >> thanks, mike. i'm sincere, that means a lot coming from you. many of the trends are in place. you look at the number of kids living at home, we now have people at the age of 30 not doing as well as their parents at 30 and more people are move

be back in. that accelerated almost a decade. and amazon took 25 years to get 500,000 employees. it's added 500,000 in months. apple went from 2 million to 2 trillion in just decades. it's literally reached into the future and pulled forward for us, both good and bad. >> professor, there's a graph that i showed at the outset. i don't know if you have return monitor, but it shows the share of u.s. households that are amazon prime members in comparison of those decorating a christmas tree, owning a pet, member of a comphurhurch or syn or own a gun. if you would have shown me the exception, i would put them in

the middle, not at the extreme. 82% of american households. sthaun that's stunning. >> yeah, amazon, the marketplace loves anonymous relationships. and amazon in a recurring bundle, a subscription businesses. more people have amazon. we get worried when a cable company has 20% or 25 market share. we're uncomfortable with any utility having more 50% of a market share. this is a company that has 82% of households. amazon prime that get 24-hour delivery. this is probably the stronging recurring relationship between a company and consumers than anywhere in the world. microsoft office comes close in the corporate world but nothing matches amazon. this company was literally invented for the pandemic. e-commerce, and amazon has invested more in their fullment

to get the stuff at home in the last years than wall mart in the last 20 years. this was literally invented for a pandemic. >> okay. on that score. now headed into the health carell mancare realm, what will that mean? >> there's a silver lining here. 90% of the people contracting antibodies for the novel coronavirus have never set foot in a doctor's office or a hospital. we have $3 trillion disburperse. the key word is "dispersion." we'll have 90% deliver to the hospitals smart cameras, smartphones. you can now speak to an amazon pharmacist 24 by 7. we're going 0 to see for the first time potentially health care companies crashing down. amazon is going to be the fastest growing health care

company in the next years. and get on our toes and have a level of primary care delivered in the home which potentially or ideally could lower costs and dramatically expand affordability. there will be big winners here. health care is will be the most disrupted, what's about to happen to health care in the next years. >> with a biden administration, democratic control of the house, presumably, we're not sure, republican control of the senate, at what point are they just too big? and does antitrust become a real concern? >> it's a real concern for all of them. there's always a case against google which the biden/harris administration will pick up. the residing biden/harris has seen more on facebook and twitter than we've seen in a long time. we've made huge efforts to stop the misinformation around covid-19. i would argue that teens have

held a great party and their parents are coming home and they're trying to clean up their act. as relates to amazon, google and then facebook, antitrust action. i do think it will happen to amazon but not until those two are done. i personally think jeff bezos the smartest person in the world. in 2025, the most valuable company will be a recently spun independent aws. the largest most profitable cloud company in the world would be a stock that everyone would own. the most valuable company in the world, 2025, amazon to try to prophylactic a stave off antitrust. but antitrust is coming, mike. >> lightning round, ten seconds, all dealt with in the book. here we go. peloton. >> connected. work out from home. huge trend. >> spotify. >> likely acquired by netflix. dominates -- we issue all media

was in our pocket on one app. >> i'm going to say it the way he says it, meaning musk, tesla. >> the ultimate story stock. in march was the third most valuable company. now the most valuable, worth more than the other three combined. never seen anything like it. >> twitter. >> needs to command the space it occupies. a great performing stock, should they decide to do away with the part-time ceo which is ridiculous and move to a subscription model and potentially partner with cnn to have vertical propriory contact. >> uber. >> a menace to society. created a permanent underclassed software to circumvent major wage loss. >> final question, in the book, you say it's the trillion dollar question, whether tech can reduce the workforce with

innovative productivity. what's your answer? >> we suffered from innovators. we never let companies weaponize our elections, destroy jobs and depress our teens at the pace these companies have. the best you can do for the economy over the next five or ten years go through the industry, tech, ag, big food, big farm that, and oxygenate the economy by breaking them up. >> these are exciting times and so much of what you've written about is great news. but i'm mindful of the fact i'm among those earning more than $100,000 who can work from home. and only 10% of those earning under $40,000 can do so. so this income in equality. and the desperate ability to function in this economy have never been more evident. >> one can only hope that we take away from this, only one in three young people think capitalism is working. what i would argue, we're not

really seeing capitalism. when you have privatized gains, capitalism on the way out. on the way out you have it calling for socialism. it's not capitalism, it's cronyism. capitalism doesn't survive unless it rests on a beth of empathy. we've flipped the switch, we're being harsh and darwinistic and harsh. there used to be capitalism was full-body violence at a corporate level, that violence, if you will, that competition created a spoils search to be more empathetic and take senior poverty from 38% to 11%. we flipped the switch. we talk with pride keeping restaurants open and innovators, meanwhile, schools are closed. capitalism needs to return to the most productive state that is where we've let corporations duke it out. and week being heavy handed with the wrong cohort. the lesson we take away from this in terms of how we screwed

up in terms of our response and stimulus is america should be about people, not companies. >> said differently if you want to ride pirates of caribbean, you ought to hoard e-tickets and stand in line. if people want to know what i'm talking about they'll have to read the book. thank you, professor. >> thank you, michael. >> what are your thoughts, tweet me@smerconish, he did it when i was young. i did it when i was young. now, people write a big check and skirt the line. what do we have? shopping online is not good for america. when you shop locally, you often then go to local restaurants or nearby businesses and spend more than you intended. helps the economy. >> susan, i agree with you. isn't today the day we're supposed to patronize small businesses? i'm all for it. but what a startling set of revelations in the book how encompassing amazon has become.

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court coming into sharp focus. last spring and summer before the death of ruth bader ginsburg the court sided against house of worship who argued to covid-19 attendance restrictions violated the free exercise clause of the first amen day, amy coney barrett in dispute over vicovid-19 restrictions put in place by new york governor andrew cuomo. justice gore susuch noted the following, the businesses the government includes essentially acupuncture, bicycle shops, certain signage companies, accountants, lawyers and insurance agencies, too. it's okay to go to church but it's always okay to pick up

another bottle of wine. spend the afternoon exploring your digital points and meridians. who knew public health would so perfectly aliven with secular convenience. >> what is was the issue in this case? >> the issue in the case is whether or not new york state was going -- the premium court was going to or the new york state to lift the restrictions on the synagogues and churches in brooklyn. pending appeal. and the churches argued that they violated their right to freely exercise their religion. >> this is i guess what it looks like when you replace justice ginsburg with justice amy coney barrett? >> that's right, justice

ginsburg was a very liberal part of the court. and when they decided to block in california and nevada, the two justices former the liberal court justice in voting to keep the restrictions in force. the chief justice in one of the opinions of the case said essentially the courts are not public health officers. so we are going to defer to the judgment of politicians and the state legislatures, state officials, on these questions in a pandemic when things are changing. and, you know, as you said, justice ginsburg passed away in september. and so, very similar cases, although as even the chief justice pointed out in his opinion in this case, these restrictions are even more stringent than the ones in california and nevada. but really also a very different court than we had back in the summer. >> governor cuomo thought this was all rather gratuitous. let's watch. here's what he had to say.

>> it's irrelevant from any practical impact because the zone that they were talking about has always been moot. it expired last week. so i think this is really just an opportunity for the court to express its philosophy in politics. it doesn't have any practical effect. >> amy howe, is he correct? >> well, the argument that the state made, and that was the ground on which the chief justice disseptembnted in this . the chief justice said, look, these restrictions are more stringent than the ones we left in place in california and nevada. it may be something that they're unconstitutional. but we shouldn't decide this because the restrictions are in place. the majority in this case,

alito, thomas, gorsuch and kavanaugh said this is something that could change quickly. covid is getting worse again. the governors could come along and reinforce. so, we're going to go ahead and say the restrictions can't about applied to churches and sin nothings. justice brett kavanaugh actually said in his opinion if they're enforced it doesn't really matter if they say we can't enforce them. >> this was an opinion by the court unsigned. we think we know who wrote it, right? who do you think wrote it? >> it's a fine guessing game that we've all been playing since late wednesday night, thursday morning. some of us believe it is justice barrett. her first opinion on the supreme court. >> right. >> the majority opinion is a

very measured opinion. it just kind of sets things out. it doesn't really read like a thomas or alito opinion. but we may not know, we may never know who will wrote it. >> final question, big picture, what you can -- read these tea leaves because you pay such close attention. what do you take away from this case that tells us about how the court will separate with justice coney barrett on the bench? i'm particularly interested in your thoughts on chief justice roberts? >> i know. his was probably the most interesting opinion, he was not actually with the liberals in this case, necessarily, on the merits. he took pains to stay that this is a case in which -- he was kind of skeptical about the restrictions. but he didn't think that the court should decide the case because the restricts were no longer in place. there was not necessarily a lot of daylight between the chief justice and justice cakavanaugh.

and i think that is a pattern that we could see in a lot of cases in the years to come. but at the same time, he was not necessarily going to go as far as justice kavanaugh. at the same time, he wasn't with the liberals. he was kind of searching for a middle ground. and you had the other more conservative justices who are ready to go ahead and say the state can't impose the restrictions. so this could be sort of a glimpse into the future of the supreme court, as far as how the lineup is going to look in years to come. >> maybe the new kennedy, maybe the new kend danedy. >> yeah -- okay, thank you. >> no, say it. >> one other thing that was also very interesting in the chief justice's opinion he really wanted to try to play a little bit of a peacemaker. he sort of called out justice gorsuch who wanted to make sure that the chief justice said that he thought the colleagues were

acting in just as good faith as the conservative ones. that they may see things differently, but they're acting in good faith. they're just reading the constitution differently. they want what's best during the pandemic and for religious institutions as well. perhaps trying to bring some goodwill, and also maybe something that he thought the country needed to hear on the whole as well. >> thank you, amy. appreciate your time. >> thank you so much for having me on. great to talk to you. >> what are you saying? via my smerconish twitter and facebook pages. i think facebook. last time i went to liquor store i wasn't there 45 to 90 minutes singing and praying out loud? really, that's what i do. i want to remind you go to my website @smerconish.com answer the question, should religious services be treated essential under covid restrictions. up ahead, the runoff in the

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covid has caused two crises in america at once. the health one as well as the economic. my next guest has offered up a solution to connect and perhaps solve both. in an essay in "the washington post" former maryland congressman john delaney who also ran for president this cycle writes, pay americans to take a coronavirus vaccine. he joins me now, okay.

congressman, make the case. >> so, the case is very straightforward, michael. the most important thing for us to do at this moment in time is to get 75% of the american people vaccinated with the three and soon to be probably four or five vaccines that will be available starting, you know, the end of this year, early next year. and right now, only about 58% of the american people say they will take the vaccine. so, what i think we need to do is create an incentive to get that number up to 75% as quickly as possible. that will save lives. that will get our economy back much sooner. and the way to do that is to tie it to a stimulus plan where we give the american people $1500 which they should have had already, if we had done a relief bill, if they take the vaccine. so it's a very straightforward approach. >> some will say, why reward the irresponsible among us? >> you know, that's kind of an

ideological response. and this is a practical solution, right? this pandemic -- the tragedy of this pandemic, 250,000 -- more than 250,000 americans have lost their lives. over 1,000 a day. they estimate that half of the small businesses in this country won't up again, or reopen. the depths of this tragedy are extraordinary. what we need are practical solutions to get this behind us and end the pandemic. and the vaccines will do it. but the existence of vaccines actually doesn't do it. what does it is people actually being vaccinated. and this solution is designed to get vaccinated. around the world, these kind of techniques are used in india. they provided incentives for people to get their kids vaccinated. and the vaccination rates went up 600%. >> i think it's how you frame the issue and how you ask the question, and i'm reminded of cats sunstein who wrote a book

called "nudged." in the or of organ donation and how you ask people will they be a donor, versus what's good for society. what i mean, congressman, is this, when you ask should we pay those to get a vaccine, my hunch is many will say no. but you switch it and say should any stimulus monies be paid to people who refuse to be vaccinated, i think it would be a hell no. >> right. well, that's the thing. i think you're right, how this is framed, how this is structured matters. and we have to remember, at its core, is this a stimulus program. i think most of us would agree we should have done another relief bill by now. one of the most popular parts of the last stimulus program was the direct cash payments. so, again, this is really direct cash payments. it is tied to people doing something that all of the experts agree they should do, which is to get vaccinated.

and it will -- it will save lives. and that's the most important --fimportant -- f if we get to 75% vaccination rate three months sooner, at the rate we're going, that could be 90,000 lives that are saved. that's why this is so important. >> i paid attention to the comments that were appended to the essay that you wrote in "the washington post." and one was the idea that this was undue pressure on people of less economic means. in other words, that there are people among us in all levels of income, who for whatever reason don't want to get vaccinated. now, when all of a sudden, we're saying we're going to pay to you get the vaccination, it brings pressure to bear that otherwise wouldn't exist on those who wouldn't are least economically so among us. >> but those who are least economically so among us have suffered disproportionately under this pandemic. so many of those people are not

sitting at home and zooming into work. they're actually getting on public transportation, going to grocery stores and making sure the essential things that we all need are available. they're the people who will benefit the most from getting the vaccination rate up. people are sitting at home zooming, being very careful about what they do and having the luxury, not to put nelms in a position where they're at risk, you know, they could continue to do this for months and months and months, but so many of our front line essential workers, et cetera, they really need to us get the vaccination rate up as soon as possible. so what i would say is, listen, we have to embrace the science. the science is clear, whether it's dr. fauci or all the other leading kind of academicians, the science and cadre of physicians and scientists reviewing this vaccine, they all

agree that the vaccines will be safe and people should get them. i don't see anything wrong in creating the incentive for people to do what the experts believe they should do anyway. and the people who benefit the most, the people most vulnerable in the society. >> congressman, thank you. provocative. i enjoyed the essay. good conversation starter. >> thank you, michael. >> let's check in on your tweets and facebook comments from facebook, i think. what do we have? only the people that have been taking the virus seriously should get paid. >> well, stacey, that is to my point. if you frame this as -- there will be -- as i'm sure with president-elect biden and speaker pelosi being able to get together with the senate, of course, whether it's mcconnell or schumer, there will be another stimulus. frame it this way, here comes another round of system loss payments for americans. should those who refuse to get the vaccine be included in that group? i think most people would say,

no, no, if you're not going to play ball and allow us to get to some level of herd immunity then you can't partake in the stimulus program. it's all in how you ask the question. i want to remind everybody to answer the week's survey question @smerconish another provocative one -- should religious services be treated as essential? you heard my conversation with amy howe in new york. a liquor store, essential, but not a house of worship. should they be? answer that. still to come, the balance of the senate hangs on the january 5th runoff in georgia. president trump stumping in person on above of the gop incumbent without giving up his thoughts of voter fraud in the state. will that help or hurt?

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the balance of the senate hangs with a pair of january 5th runoffs with kelly leffler and david perdue against democratic challengers, reverend raphael warnock and john austin. the duels tickets have found a way to reinvigorate voter it's. the ads spent almost $296 million. while the president's appearance should be in trust, he seems to be keeping alive his candidacy and voter fraud. >> we are looking at things so bad in georgia. it's a very close race. hair-thin. look at what's happening in georgia. speaking of georgia, i'll be going there. you go down the streets there's trump/pence signs all over the place. we won by hundreds of thousands in georgia and we will get

georgia. >> joining to discuss is patricia murphy from the atlanta journal constitution. patricia, why is it that democrats fare so poorly in the runoff elections? >> well, we've had elections since 1992, republicans have been largely in charge of the state since 20012. and republicans have an incredibly large infrastructure at the county level. they have excellent operations that they've been able to turn on a dime for years and years. so they just have an institutional ability to get the voters out. and the voters are typically older and more reliable. even though democrats have been successful in recent getting voters to the polls, the runoffs have been a big challenge for them in the past. and they know it could be a challenge in january. >> it has a people now, and i'm a thousand miles away of a ticket race, right, it's

loeffler and purdue, warnock. it's hard to one "r" and one "d" wins. do you agree with that? >> i agree. both. republicans and the democrats really do share political philosophies. they're similar in the policies that they're advocating. so there's very little that one voter would like about one democrat or republican that they wouldn't naturally like about the other one. also i would say it's a highly partisan electorate, and it's very unusual for someone to go for one of these two candidates and not the other. now at this point, they're basically campaigning together. they're doing events for a double ticket. i asked voters would you ever vote for one over the other. and especially since the control of the senate has come down to these two races, you have to have both of them. and we are finding out that the

control of the senate is a major animating factor in these races. so, the type of voters that are coming out are there either to put chuck shchumer or keep chuc schumer from being in charge. >> actually, i wanted to show another clip from president trump and pose a question about which you just dread. roll the tape. >> mr. president, you don't think that the presidential election was legitimate, that you think it was stolen, what confidence do you expect voters to have when they go to the polls to vote for say loeffler or perdue? >> i told them today, i think you're dealing with a very fraudulent system. i'm very worried about that. they have a fraudulent system. the secretary of state who is really -- he's an enemy of the people. >> so, here are the two consistency problems that i see with senators loeffler and purdue. if they don't acknowledge vice president, now president-elect

biden as having won the race, how can they make an argument that you need us to keep us eye on the white house? >> that's a great question. they have not been able to do that successfully yet. both of these senators, and this very awkward position of having to be so loyal to the president, that they cannot say that the president has lost, because the president doesn't want them to say that he's lost. so, they can't go out to these rallies and say control of the senate is in your hands. however, voters in georgia are really quite sophisticated, and they read the newspaper. they read it and they know that president trump lost the election in georgia and across the country. some trump realists in the state obviously are pushing that message very, very aggressively, that this election was rigged, that he has not lost. but the reality is the reality. and i think voters are going to understand that by january 5th,

whether the two senators are willing to say that out loud or not. it's really a semantic problem that they're having to solve on their own. >> and finally, does it appear that we're headed for a repeat unt in so far as there's going on a big mail-in ballots priemarily for the democratic candidates and a ballots? >> the covid numbers are going up in the state. also a time over the holidays that people are having a chance to get their ballots requested and sent back in. one big problem for republicans is that the president has been so aggressively maligning mail-in voting. and republicans want the mail-in votes. they want this to come in early and soon. so, we're seeing the georgia republican party send out

mailer, after mailer, telling people to get those mail-in requests and vote absentee. and the president telling them it's a fraudulent process. the message is one thing but the reality is another. as with a lot of things down here. >> patricia, thank you so much. that was excellent. >> great. still to come, your best facebook and twitter tweets. and go to answer the question, should religious services be treated as essential under covid restrictions? did i just get picked off by deion sanders? you sure did! now in the app, get a free footlong when you buy two. because it's footlong season™!

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