you may think about the americans who have died on the president's watch may have been something that he would be concerned about. instead the man is occupied with the white house and what i am sad to say a con game over the election he lost. how is it a con game? well, the president is peddling the idea it is not true. in exchange, he's taking their money, about $170 million which is small dollar donors', going to legal expenses relating to the election. it is largely not. that's what a con man does and that's what the president seems to be doing. don't take it from us, take it from republicans and judges that he's appointed that said so.

william barr telling the associated press "today we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have affected a different outcome in the election." that's coming from william barr, a guy who has bent over backwards to back up the president. remember the attorney general back in june validating the president's attack on mail-in ballots. >> a foreign country can print out tens of thousands of ballots and it would be hard for us to protect. >> bear in mind, that was not true then and he offered no evidence to backup that statement. but it does show you how willing he was to echo what the president wanted to hear. and after, he authorized federal investigation of vote tabulation irregularities. the move drew widespread criticism. with all that said for all the controversies surrounding these

investigations, he must have drawn a blank, otherwise, attorney barr certainly would have said so. he said, these are not systemic allegations. those have been run down, they are being run down. he dismissed the claim the president makes constantly. >> the dominion machines where tremendous reports have been put out. we have affidavits on -- from many people talking about what machines. these were glitches. you know what a glitch is. it's supposed to be when a machine breaks down. no, they moved thousands of votes from my account to biden's account. these aren't glitches. they are fraud. absolute fraud. >> that's made-up. here is what the attorney general told the associated press. "there is one assertion that would be systematic fraud and that would be the claim that machines were programmed to skew the election results. the department of homeland

security and doj have looked into that and so far we have not seen anything to substantiate that." nothing. nor has chris krebs, who was fired by the president. >> there is no foreign power that's flipping votes. there is no domestic actor flipping votes. i did it right. we did it right. this was a secure election. >> and he got fired for that conclusion, and got death threats and was on the receiving end from the member of the president's team. >> anybody who thinks this election went well like that guy krebs. >> the guy who with us was on "60 minutes" last night.

>> that guy is a moron, he should be drawn and quartered and taken out at dawn and shot. >> now of course digenova is saying he was speaking in jest, and just kidding of shooting the public servant for doing his job. in this environment where people have been told the election is stolen or talking about killing people is not anything a responsible or reasonable person should be doing. in georgia where the president lost, another public servant, the republican in charge of voting systems, had this to say to the president. >> i don't have all the best words to do this because i am angry. the straw that broke the camel's back, the 20-year-old contractor just trying to do his job. just there -- i talked to

dominion today, they said he's one of the better ones we got. his family is getting harassed and there is a -- with his name on it. it is not right. i can't begin to explain the anger that i have right now over this. every democrat or republican alike should have that same level of anger. mr. president, it looks like you likely lost the stage of georgia. we are investigating. there is a possibility and i get it, you have the right to go through the courts. what you don't have the right to do is stop inspiring people to commit potential acts of violence. someone is going to get hurt, someone is going to get shot and killed. it is not right. >> gabriel sterling is being protected by police just for

doing his job. his boss, the secretary of state, has been getting death threats. the president has called him "the enemy of the people." you heard that before. again, just for doing his job. the president shows no sign of caring. after all there is money to be made and outrage. the president has been bombarding supporters. friends, i can't do this alone, i need your help. please contribute so you can increase your impact. the link leads you to a website that says, president trump is counting on you to defend the election. unless you donate more than $5,000, none of the money you send goes to the president's so-called "election defense fund." it has raised $170 million so far. because it is set up as what's called a leadership p.a.c. and

not a candidate committee, there is no personal use prohibition. that's really important. as one financial official tells "the washington post," if you are talking about an expenditure pact, there is no prohibition on how they use that money. in short, the president is being handed tens of millions, more than $100 million after losing the election, telling his supporters that he did not lose the election. he's telling them they can do something about it by sending him more money that goes to a fund that he has a wide discretion to spend however he wants it. they don't even get the trump steaks, or a worthless diploma. you have to wonder which of his collaborators are in on it as well. first, let's go to jim acosta. barr concluded there is no evidence of fraud. what's the white house is saying about that? is now barr an enemy of the people as well?

>> reporter: well, they have not gone that far yet. but we are waiting to see what the president say about this. white house officials are turning us to the trump campaign and the trump legal team and statements they put out of rudy giuliani being on that trump team saying in a statement that bill barr and the department of justice have not done a semblance of an investigation stemming from the 2020 election. that's rigged obviously because rudy giuliani and trump's team have not put forward any evidence at all. anderson, what we are left with is what you were teeing up over the last several minutes, which is a disinformation for dollars scheme that the president is orchestrating right now to a great success. he's raising a lot of money for his future plans to essentially make joe biden's life miserable the next four years.

>> and you have some reporting of associates of the president, rudy giuliani, maybe, asking for pardons? >> reporter: that's right. i am told by my sources that associates of the president have been pleading to him, appealing to him for pardons and what are being called preemptive blanket pardons. our sources say those associates include rudy giuliani who by the way has been leading up these legal challenges across the country. i am told by a source who's familiar with some of these discussions that a lot of these associates who are seeking these pardons, friends, allies, people who think they are in hot water the next four years, they fear what an in coming biden administration means and they see some hostility and what they view as hostility coming from that incoming administration. >> is that a thing? preemptive blanket pardons?

>> reporter: you know, i am not a lawyer. i don't play one on tv. i think what they are looking for is, yes. some sort of blanket immunity for prosecution from here on forward, whether or not that can be tested in the courts, we'll see. and also about the prospect of the president pardoning himself which we don't know is constitutional. but he busted norms before. talking to my sources, he may try that one, too. >> like a monopoly, getting out of jail free card. he's not being inaugurated again, so what is this about an event around the inauguration?

>> not many of the outgoing advisers for the president think he will go out there and put his arms around him and wish biden luck. they don't see it as happening. a potential event on inauguration day where president trump will announce some kind of intention in terms of what he may do the next four years. he may hint of a comeback run in 2024 and all of that is up in the air and depending on how the president is doing politically and legally over the next couple of years. but it is something being discussed as an attempt to steal the limelight from his successor. >> have they said he's not going to go the inauguration? >> reporter: he was asked but did not answer that question. he wanted to keep everybody in suspense. keep his supporters in suspense. if he says he's going to the inauguration, that is in and of

itself an acknowledgment that he won't be president of the united states. we go back to those fund-raising e-mails you were showing a few moments ago, they become even more laughable. >> the cameras are going to be at the inauguration. i think the president is going to be there. i am rolling the dice there. >> in some way, shape, or form. >> jim acosta, thank you very much. documents by the washington, d.c. district court is also making headlines. evan perez is joining us now. what do they reveal? >> reporter: it says there is an investigation that's been ongoing that appears to show that there is a bribery scheme. someone was trying to funnel money, some kind of campaign donation in exchange for a presidential pardon. we don't know who the campaign donation was going to.

from reading the document, we can tell this involves some kind of contact with white house officials. we talked to them, they say they have no idea what this is about. the names of the people, the law firms that's involved and all of this have been redacted and clearly released by the chief judge here in washington over the objections of the justice department, which wanted to keep these documents secret. we don't know if it will become public in the way of a court filing of charges. it appears right now no charges have been filed with regard to this bribery scheme. it does raise the question of who it was trying to use access to the president and the white house in order to get a presidential pardon in exchange for campaign finance donations. >> and it was revealed back in october, bill barr, pointed a

counsel to investigate violations of the law in 2016. did barr give an indication why decide to do this or why doing it right now? >> reporter: he simply says it is in the public interest but this investigation to be completed. keep in mind if you remember, bill barr kept saying that john durham, the attorney in connecticut, was finding all sorts of interesting things. he suggested there may be crimes involved and suggested that there may be some kind of october surprise. something before the november election. the president also kept trying to raise the prospect that this was going to happen. none of it came to pass. we know durham is not done. according to bill barr, he decided that he needed to appoint john durham as a special counsel. according to regulations, durham can't serve in the way robert mueller did.

because he's a current government employee. the rule is you have to be someone outside the government. what barr is doing is going around the regulations and he's giving durham the powers. and he's leaving this to keep going well into the joe biden administration. this is something that the incoming attorney general under joe biden will have to deal with when they take office. >> evan perez, i appreciate it. thanks. now, let's talk to former nixon white house counsel, john dean. a cnn contributor and commentator and also david axelrod. so if there is been some sort of rumblings of a presidential bribery scheme, what would it mean legally? i am not clear this means if somebody had given donations in

the past or someone looking for a pardon by giving donations, what do you make of this? >> well, i read the largely redacted document and as evan says it is hard to glean much from it. they did get a lot of information from a raid that they were obviously authorized. they got several terabytes of digital materials from iphones and ipads and hard drives and what have you. in that material were emails correspondent between the party involved and an attorney. they apparently had to breach or break that privilege and went to court to get an order that they could confront the people that were involved in the investigation with the fact they had this information and not be breaking the privilege. they did so. and they did that based on the

fact, information had been shown to people that were not attorneys and they were not breaching the attorney/client privilege. so this is what happened and the judge, who's an experienced seasoned judge, said at the outset, i want these documents made public as soon as possible and put that in the original order. the department of justice resisted that to the last minute and filed a request saying we don't want it public. the judge went back at them and said, please, i want something in a week that we could put, release. she forced the issue and we got the highly redacted memo today. >> the investigation indicated indiduals and conduct had not been charged yet, is there any conclusion to be drawn from

this? it seems sketchy. >> look, i think the real question is, was there any conversation between anyone at the white house or the campaign where the people received any encouragement? we don't know the answer to that. but like many other elements of this white house, the pardon situation is a bit of a cesspool. there was a system set up in the obama administration, pardons were reviewed by the justice department. there was a rigorous system to make sure everything was on the up and up. >> is there such a thing as a preemptive pardon? >> well, gerald ford provided a pardon for richard nixon but it was not for a crime he may have committed. john, you can correct me if i am wrong. it was specific to crimes that were associated with the investigations that were ongoing.

>> it was throughout his presidency, from his inauguration to his resignation. >> that was more the exception that proves the rule. it is highly unusual. >> yes. >> also unusual, rudy giuliani is out there flacking the president's fantasy fraud, and asking for $20,000 a day and he's apparently talking about a preemptive pardon. that's sketchy, too. >> we are going to take a break. we'll have more david and john, stand by. we want to ask about the new reporting from "the new york times" and jared kushner. also, a medical team joins us to talk about the vaccine rolling out and time and logistics, some better news after what looks like to be dark times ahead. - [announcer] your typical vacuum has bristles

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we're talking about people seeking presidential pardons, and the possibility of

corruption surrounding the process. this just hitting "the new york times." president trump discussed with advisers whether to grant preemptive pardon to his children, son-in-law, and to his own personal lawyer, rudy giuliani. back now with john dean and david axelrod. "the new york times" is saying this. is there any historical parallel you know of, this granting pardons of his kids and son-in-law and rudy giuliani? >> i can't find any historical parallel for this. the family particularly. certainly, i can't think of any family that was ever involved in the processes of the presidency as the trump family has been. but it's certainly not a surprise. i think this is a trial balloon to see what the reaction is. i would be surprised if he does

not than if he does. >> david, if he just pardons in advance all of his children and jared kushner, it's something you would expect to see in a country with a ruling family, and they're looking for a, you know, a way out without being hauled into prison. >> it is, anderson. but the president does not respect the rule of law, laws, you know, norms, institutions. he hasn't from the beginning. it is not at all surprising. i think he'll end up the ability to pardon himself by the time it's all said and done. and he can't pardon for state crimes. there are two active

investigations by new york, one by the attorney general and the district attorney of manhattan that's looking into the trump organization. these pardons will not protect himself or his children. but you can see what he's setting up. the story said he's concerned the biden administration will go after his family in retribution. that's the kind of thing he would do. biden has indicated he's not interested in that. but i think that's the rational he will use if he goes ahead with the pardons. >> rudy giuliani reportedly talking about the preemptive pardon, which rudy giuliani denied doing that. there is only a handful of that in u.s. history. you talk about president ford pardoning richard nixon which was controversial. this is a whole other level from that. he's helping him launch a fraudulent assault of election integrity.

>> yes, we got a sample today of his pardon style in the filing by general flynn. in the actual language, it's so loose and unspecific, to really open itself up to challenge. as far as rudy, they'll try to give a blanket sort of immunity against all kinds of activities. and that has been done in the past. but it raises questions. it's been before the supreme court, but it's never been litigated. in our common law, you have to have some specificity in what you are doing and you can't use these blanket efforts to immunize people. it could get challenged in court if he gets too loosey-goosey in protecting everybody. >> john, you have to be specific. you can't just say on twitter, i hereby pardon rudy giuliani for

any activities between 2016 and 2020? >> no. >> or ukraine or wherever he's been traveling to. >> you have to have some specificity as to what the offenses are. what he it with flynn, he said anything coming out of the grand jury's investigation by the special council in the district of columbia or the eastern district of virginia. that's very vague. all that secret proceeding is unknown probably even to flynn himself. it is hard to tell what's in that pardon. it's just one of several clauses in the pardon that were so loose, you can't tell what they say. >> maybe that i have been off for a week and hanging out with an infant and not reading twitter.

but it is like you wake up like rip van winkle and realize what a shambles this administration is. this is what they are talking about, they're making up things about election fraud and encouraging one of the president's attorneys to shoot republican official and saying he's kidding. republicans are saying, you know, mr. president, please stop saying we're enemies of the state. this is just a shambles. it is amazing this is what the president wants his legacy to be. >> well, i don't think he cares. i think he cares about his supporters, what they think, and he gives them his interpretation of events. he's going on a supernova of lies and corruption and maybe this is the appropriate way to end this history of his presidency. >> thank you very much. still ahead, the cdc

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breaking news on the coronavirus vaccine, the first doses of the pfizer vaccine will be delivered three weeks from today, december 15th. the cdc voted 13-1 for health care workers to be first in line for the vaccination. more than 98,000 hospitalizations, which is a new high.

joining us is dr. sanjay gupta and dr. william shaffner, among those advisers to the cdc. dr. shaffner, can you tell us a little bit about the decisions that were made, how the committee came to the decision? >> sure, anderson. this was a combination of several months of discussions of focus groups and modeling of illness to see which groups ought to go first, second, and third. we took that first step and voted for health care workers, the people who take care of everyone, we need them there in case we get even more of a surge, which we anticipate. and then also, it was added, the residents of long-term care facilities were added to that

group. that's about 27 million people around and about, across the united states. if we can get the vaccine started in that group, that'll be a good first step. >> sanjay, what do you make of the cdc's recommendations today? >> i think it was what was expected and if you look at nursing homes long-term care facilities and especially back in the spring. that's 40% of the deaths. so that's an obvious place to begin. this is how they break it down. roughly about 3 million people in long-term care facilities and 21 million or so health care folks. it is not enough vaccine by the end of the year to do this, but in the first couple months or

so next year we should be able to do this. i also talked to some folks at operation warp speed, people who are in the long-term care facilities, hospitals, these are these institutions where the vaccines will be given so there is a pragmatic and logistic aspect of this as well. >> dr. shaffner, can you explain what rules states and cities will have and how will it square with what the cdc is recommending? >> absolutely. we have been working on this committee and preparing for what the acip was going to bring forth. much of what they did bring with nursing homes and health care workers were where we were. the fact that they included the nursing home residents and more importantly -- as important, the people who work at the nursing home is critical. those individuals are going home to their families and they're potentially spreading it in the community.

and with the health care workers, remember, 50% of all health care workers who died from coronavirus were people of color, the majority of which were african-american. i believe they were on point in choosing these two groups for phase one-"a." >> dr. shaffner, the single vote that came from one of your colleagues said she was worried the vaccine was not studied. is that a concern? >> well, nothing is perfect at the present time. it's true, by the time we initiate the immunizationimmuni will not have information on residents of long term care facilities. not in long-term care facilities per se. we would like to have that information going forward but we

don't anticipate adverse reactions being more. in fact, they may be less, according to the preliminary data. we think this is a good idea vaccinating the nursing home residents because this has been a group in which there has been large outbreaks of infections particularly at the beginning of the outbreak, but they continue. and so reaching out to them is a good idea. >> sanjay, cdc vaccine advisers were told that although federal officials expect to have 40 million doses by december. it is not going to be available all at once. how does that change things? >> it is an important point. i think we're used to thinking about having enough stock,

supply. so you have surge demands, you can meet them. it's a very different situation. i was speaking to the chief scientif scientific adviser to operation warp speed. by the time pfizer may start actually vaccinating people they will have closer to 6.5 million doses at that point and producing 3 million per week. the expectation is moderna will come online and it will get to the 40 million by the end of the year. but there's really no reserve here. we are in the middle of the pandemic, all the manufactured vaccine is going to be distributed quickly. we are still making a vaccine here. they're making it at an industrial scale now. there are 20 to 25 quality control checks. if something goes wrong, you can get behind. you may lose a batch of vaccines. this is something that's in the

back of their minds. you got the date and the efficacy. you got to make sure you can manufacture and distribute it at the scale we are talking about it as well. >> how do you make sure within those first groups being vaccinated that it is done equitably and especially in the the underserved communities. >> it is folks in the hospital, it may be folks in the e.r. or in trauma. certainly ear, nose, and throat doctors. we can't forget the folks who are transporting patients or emptying garbage cans. bringing food to patients. those health care personnel are equally important. and the same with the long term care facilities. again, the 65 and up, that's again, the 65 and up, that's

more our phase one-"b" and one-"c." just to be careful of that. 15,000 people we tested, the groups that were positive were less than 65 and only 22% had co-morbid conditions. we just have to be careful with that criteria. that's what excluded a lot of people from getting tested before is that as we go through and i know it is dynamic and it is changing and we'll keep looking at the evidence is that we don't exclude those certain groups. they are your employees that are potentially transmitting it and they're bringing it home and they're most affected. they can't be productive members back in society with the residual effects of coronavirus. thank you to you all. a quick programming note. join sanjay and me at 9:00 p.m. eastern for the "coronavirus town hall: the vaccines." earlier, you heard warnings from one georgia official in the mistruths in the election.

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president trump and his campaign as we noted at the top of the program are counting on the devotion of his supporters to lay a foundation for any future political battles. if you need any more convincing on his hold on the supporters, look at the reddest parts of georgia, where as gary tuchman found, are still there. >> reporter: in many american neighborhoods, the beginning of december still looks like the beginning of november. trump campaign signs, flags, and banners on houses and barns. fences, and trees. all left up by trump voters who believe giving up on their signs means giving up on their president. julie darnell lives north of atlanta. you still have a lot of signs up for donald trump. elections were november 3rd.

why are they still up? >> they'll stay up through the end. i think he'll come through. >> reporter: what will come through? >> i think we got cheated out of the election and i am going to stick to it. >> reporter: you will find a lot of signs here that are still up. j.d. or tega said during the campaign, some of his trump signs were stolen. so he put his signs high up in trees. >> i am hopeful that something is going to come out of these investigations. i am hoping that something will turn the tide and i am just a big supporter and i am hoping that donald trump can still be president. absolutely, yeah. >> reporter: then there is reality. the formal certification, the trump attorneys' failures in courtrooms around the country to

prove the president's claim that the election is fraudulent. evidence is not being presented in court? >> that does concern me. i don't know all the ins and outs of what he's got going on. it does concern me that it has not come to light yet. >> reporter: the lack of evidence presented by the trump's lawyers is not comforting to many who are still flying trump flags. including roger, who didn't want his face want his face shown but still thinks donald trump could win the election. >> just anecdotally it's hard to say. >> is it maybe wishful thinking on your part? >> sure, sure, absolutely. >> america voted joe biden in, then joe biden should be in. but i think it all should be fair. i think it all should be fair? >> does it bother that you haven't seen any evidence of it, that it hasn't been presented and maybe you're being tricked? that maybe this man just wants to stay in office so badly that

he's going to keep saying it but not show any evidence of it? >> bother me? i don't know why he would want the office the way they've done him. >> reporter: many people still supporting the signs look at post-election trump as a political martyr. each person recognized for every day that goes by, things get more complicated for mr. trump. but these are true believers who refuse to stop believing. do you think it's possible america elected joe biden to be the next president? i know you don't want that. >> possible. not probable. possible. >> reporter: gary tuchman, cnn, cherokee county georgia. >> that sort of support around the country, what does it mean going forward for the trump campaign? what does it foreshadow for governing under president biden.

van jones, cnn political commentator. some people really believe the president can turn things around. >> well, they think that because they have a media ecosystem that reinforces that and frankly they have the president of the united states continuing to insist upon that. in some ways it's not unusual in that, you know, when obama was president, donald trump was trying to de-legit mate him and people were saying he shouldn't be president. when trump was president, you had bitter people saying donald trump shouldn't be president. you've never had a president or former president whipping this up. it's one thing when you have grass roots people, martial media saying stuff like this. never has anyone like joe biden come in office with a potential president in waiting, president in exile, political martyr in waiting every day potentially

waiting to undermine his ability to govern. it's not unusual for people having a hard time accepting results. it is unusual for a candidate to participate in the way he's doing it. >> the idea that the president would not even attend the inauguration, which who knows, you can also make the argument there's going to be a lot of cameras there. he doesn't want to miss out on that. but it's extraordinary that -- i'm just stunned that this is how he wants his legacy to end. you know, david axelrod earlier said he doesn't care about his legacy. maybe that's true. it just -- it could have gone such a different direction. >> listen, if donald trump fails to appear, that will be the first time that you've had that level of rejection of the american people and american democracy and the american system by an american president. we've been in unprecedented water since he came down the escalator five years ago, but that's literally a category beyond because then you're

dealing with a potential disloyal movement in the country led by one of the most famous people in the world, led by someone who can at least access millions of dollars. it is a dangerous destabilizing possibility. you have to ask yourself the question, why are people so willing to go along with this? you know, the level of willful -- i guess you could say wishful thinking that you're seeing is very, very frightening. and it has to do with we are in such different media environments. if you listen to right wing media, there's a ton of evidence that they talk about, discuss, you go down this rabbit hole and you say this sounds very convincing. you ask yourself if it's that convincing, why are republican lawmakers, republican governors, republican secretaries of state doing anything of about it? it's mostly made up. but you have to know the extra

piece that's not presented in court to get yourself out of it. i try to take this stuff as seriously as i can. it's a deep rabbit hole. you've got millions of people there. it's dangerous. >> the election is over. president biden is going to be sworn in january 20th. you have others saying president trump may hold his own event that week, perhaps announcing a 2024 run. you know, you also wonder how that's going to play with the republican party with all these people who themselves want to be president and they still have to be beholden to him. we have to leave it there. cnn's all star tribute honoring heros in a year we've desperately needed them. who they are and how you can help when we come back.

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