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hello to our viewers in the united states and around the world. coronavirus cross currents between vaccine hope and despair of the current moment. 30 straight days of 100,000 plus cases, and the u.s. is expected to pass 14 million infections sometime today. these numbers are so big and overwhelming that they need to be put in proper human historical context. before that, other big headlines, president-elect joe
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biden deliberates over high profile cabinet positions as complaints emerge about the makeup of his leadership that is too middle of the road and too white. and today, the transition holds a virtual meeting with dr. anthony fauci, the coronavirus remains the top priority for the incoming administration. new daily records, paired with warnings, underline the depth of the challenge. here it is. 2800 deaths, 100,000 people sick with covid in the hospital. that's the most people sick in one day since the pandemic began. it is the most people dead in one day since the pandemic began. for context, the number of people who died yesterday, just yesterday, is about the same number that died on 9/11. dr. jonathan rhinor we will have a 9/11 every day with deaths until this is under control.
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operation warp speed officials say expect the first shipments in 12 days. most of the population won't get the vaccine for months. a new forecast from centers for disease control says american coronavirus death toll will climb as high as 329,000 by the day after christmas, again, context. this is about the same number of americans killed during world war ii and korean war combined. remember, we just set a pandemic high for daily deaths. one official helping lead the biden pandemic strategy warns the country this morning of a much darker future ahead. >> we may look back and say i wish it was 2600 deaths a day. that's the issue to bring forward to the american public now. this is a very, very difficult and dangerous time and if we don't change our ways, this will not be the top of the curve.
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>> and these numbers can numb you. each life lost is measured in the pain of people that they left behind. >> so when i was holding her hand, you know, she definitely slowed with her breathing and then they came into the room, told me that i needed to go for my dad, you know. they just passed at the same time. it was devastating and really difficult. >> but the hope is still about a vaccine, and we're getting a new glimpse today on how the government plans to keep track of people who received the vaccine. i want to get to kristin holmes. tell us what your reporting is about the vaccine kits, how they're going to be put together and distributed. >> dana, this is what a lot of americans have been waiting for, particularly health experts. i have spoken to many of them after we got our first glimpse
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of the kits breathing a sigh of relief. here's why. look at this picture of the kids from department of defense website, our first look at what it is going to have inside it. you see an information card which i am going to get to in a second. you see needles, syringes, alcohol wipes, masks. why is this important? the country saw a huge shortage in personal protective equipment at the beginning of the coronarus outbreak, many of the industry experts are concerned it was going to happen again. the fact this is coming with the vaccine kit is a bonus to health care workers. they believe this will really help the supply chain. now to the part there are some concerns, this is the information card. it looks like a standard piece of information, has a place for your name, which dose you got, which type of vaccine, but this is how the country is keeping track of who got the vaccine and how many doses they got. and as one person i spoke to just earlier this morning working with operation warp
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speed, why are we using this kind of paper system in 2020, there are real concerns here that there is no national database. hhs asked them to be part of a data sharing program, but there are big concerns about that because they don't know where the data is going at this point. they don't know where it will be shared. it is not a national system and no one is giving them that information. you're seeing a lot of states balk at the idea of actually joining this data sharing until they get those kind of answers. dana? >> so many unknowns. i want to ask you about former presidents. we have seen in recent times former presidents get together to try to help out when there's a humanitarian crisis. well, we're in a humanitarian crisis and president obama, president bush, clinton are working together with regard to the vaccine. what are you hearing? >> reporter: one of the things we have been missing in this country is some national education program or ad campaign to teach americans about what
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exactly is going to happen with this vaccine and so to fill that void, you're seeing the former presidents step in, obama, bush, clinton. we know that george bush actually reached out to fauci, asked about the vaccine and asked how he could help promote this and give it publicity. obama also said he trusts fauci, if he tells him to do it, he will also take the vaccine. they're all saying they'll do it on camera publicly to ensure the public knows it is safe. dana? >> kristin, our producers found evidence this has happened with high profile people in the past with the vaccine. elvis presley in 1956, there he is back stage at the ed sullivan show. what is he doing? getting the polio vaccine. thank you so much for finding that. joining me, and thank you, kristin. joining me, dr. kevin alt, serves on the cdc advisory committee on immunization
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practices. thank you so much for joining me, doctor. >> thank you. >> first about the death record today, new record on deaths, new record off hospitalizations. we haven't even seen case contracted over thanksgiving to show up in real numbers. where are we headed? >> well, i thought that that segment was sobering. we have known for weeks there's potential for these cases to keep rising, and there is strain on the health care system. i think you covered that well in the prior segment. that showed up in the hearing that we had two days ago when we talked about vaccinating health care workers. >> explain to us how your committee, talking about the vaccine, explain how your committee decided who gets the vaccine first. >> we've had a series of meetings over the past six months about once a month to try to layout how to maximize benefits and minimize harms for vaccines as they become available, so we developed a
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group through all these discussions and meetings, phase a or group one, which includes health care workers, residents of long-term care facilities and nursing homes, essential workers and people over 65 is who is in the first group. that's a huge group of americans. that was the group that would seem to benefit the most from this vaccine or these vaccines. >> so as kristin laid out, one of the big challenges is going to be that you are obviously a federal organization laying out guidelines and recommendations, this is going to be distributed on a state level. there's no requirement for states to take your recommendations and run with them. are you worried some states will ignore what you're saying about the first vaccines going to health care workers on frontlines of coronavirus and people who are older in places that are assisted living and others? >> well, the traditional role of
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our committee has been to provide clinical guidelines and we certainly did this in the 2009 pandemic as well. so there's precedent there. i think there's a difference if you go back and listen to some other meetings between macro planning, large picture we're looking at in our committee and micro planning, what actually happens on a much smaller scale in cities. so i think we laid out a very good framework, as he said previously for maximizing benefits, minimize risk and health equity, but i expect differences from place to place if you look at the whole of the nation. >> before i let you go, i want to play with you some comments from one of the participants from the vaccine trials. he spoke to my colleague sanjay gupta. take a listen. >> that evening was rough. i mean, i developed a low grade fever and fatigue and chills, like you're punched in the arm.
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doesn't last long. the potential of folks not getting this vaccine and actually infecting people with covid, those effects last a lot longer and they can be life or death. >> some americans will hear the first part which is i felt like i was punched in the arm and didn't feel so well. as a public health expert and official, how do you overcome that? >> well, we're going to have data. we talked about some data tuesday, we'll have data next week how common that is. preliminary data is 10 or 20%, depending which side effect you looked at. a lot of people have those reactions to the flu shot. i have gotten a flu shot every fall for 20 some years. some years i have that reaction, some years i don't. it is hard to predict who has that reaction and who doesn't. at least we'll have data to inform people in the near future about both these candidate vaccines. >> i'll answer that question also. i would rather get feel like i got punched in the arm than be
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in the hospital on a ventilator. i'm sure most people in this country would. thank you so much. appreciate it. up next, president-elect biden is facing pressure over diversity in his incoming administration. sofi made it so easy to pay off my student loan debt. (chime) choosing sofi was literally one of the best decisions i could have ever made because it gave me peace of mind. ♪ renew air volume mega mascara by l'oréal paris.? a whipped formula and a 'cushiony brush. for mega volume, yet mega light. new air volume mega mascara. by l'oréal paris. you're worth it.
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individuals in top positions. >> cnn's manu raju on capitol hill. what are you hearing from your sources about how they feel on capitol hill, particularly the powerful groups and caucuses within the democratic party about the president-elect's picks? >> reporter: there's a lot of lobbying happening behind the scenes. joe biden is facing pressure on a number of different fronts, both to pick candidates that represent ideological diversity, ethnic diversity, and dealing with reality of trying to get someone -- >> i'm sorry to interrupt. we have to go to the president in the oval office. >> very close to a deal. >> mr. president, can i ask you to respond to comments by your attorney general who indicated at this point there has not been evidence enough to overturn election results. given that, why is now not the time to concede? >> well, he hasn't done anything, he hasn't looked. when he looks, he'll see the kind of evidence that you're seeing in the georgia senate, going through hearings now in
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georgia and finding tremendous volumes. they haven't looked very hard which is a disappointment to be honest with you. because it is massive fraud, whether you go to wisconsin where we just filed a case or michigan or if you look at what's happening in georgia as an example, pennsylvania, if you look at nevada which is moving along very rapidly or arizona, you saw the numbers come out yesterday, we found massive fraud and in other states also. this is probably the most fraudulent election anyone has ever seen. >> do you still have confidence in bill barr? >> ask me that in a number of weeks from now. they should be looking at all of this fraud. this is not civil. he thought it was civil. this is not civil, this is criminal, very bad criminal stuff. i say this. we went through an election. at 10:00, everybody said that was an easy victory for trump. all of a sudden, votes started
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to miraculously start disappearing. we found much of it, but found far more votes we need in almost all of these states, i think i can say in all more states far more votes to win every one of them. i want to thank the team. the team is doing an unbelievable job. more importantly, i want to thank the 74 million plus people that voted which is the largest amount of people that a sitting president has ever had, 74 million plus. and because the level of loyalty i've never seen anything like it. all over the country they know it was a fixed election. it was a rigged election. they know it and i appreciate their support. thank you all very much. >> president trump in the oval office, almost every single thing you just heard from the president of the united states is a lie. the only thing that he said at
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the end there about how many people voted for him and about the level of loyalty they have is true. and it is that loyalty that's leading us to the situation we're in. i want to bring in kaitlan collins. where do we even begin, he said the attorney general didn't have the information that he needed when he announced that there wasn't widespread fraud in the election. he said they're finding new votes in the georgia senate. we know from the georgia secretary of state that said in the face of death threats that that's not true. going on and on about so many other topics that are just not accurate. kaitlan, what are you hearing from your sources about that and let's pick one thing which is the rift that he has now with his own attorney general who is talking about reality as opposed to fantasy we just heard from the president.
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>> reporter: well, if he is saying the attorney general hasn't seen the evidence, that would show there was enough voter fraud that would change the outcome of the election, that's something the president has been saying for weeks now, that they have that. dana, we have seen that over 30 of their cases failed in court. they do not have the evidence, if they do, they're not showing it in court in a way that's convincing any judges or putting pause on state officials to consider counts of votes, so the president is continuing to insist this, trying to shape public opinion, but they're not successful in changing outcome of votes. recounts affirm vote counts the week of the election, only seen that continue to take place. the president is insisting something is happening that is not happening. and that has in turn caused him to turn on attorney general bill barr. he already soured on barr long before this, he was very upset over the fact that the durham report, of course the investigation into beginning of the russian investigation was
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not produced before the election. barr has now named durham as special counsel, meaning he will continue to do that investigation long after donald trump is out of office is the expectation, but they're not getting the reports. the president is deeply unhappy with the attorney general, and you saw it right there, when he was asked if he has confidence in the attorney general. he said to ask him again in a couple of weeks. dana, there's only seven weeks left in the trump administration. only seven weeks left and bill barr is going to be attorney general. there's not a lot of time for the president to make a decision. we heard from sources on whether barr will be fired, it is anyone's guess. the president talked openly about firing barr as recently as in the last 48 hours or so. it was only exacerbated by comments he made to associated press about there being no evidence of widespread fraud. so the question really is if the president is weighing pros and cons of firing barr, getting to do what he wants to do, is that
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worth the blow back and fallout he is going to get from firing someone deeply popular with conservatives and with the president's republican allies on capitol hill. judging by the answer, seems to be something that the president is still weighing, hasn't made a decision on yet. not a ringing endorsement, not something that should make bill barr feel good about his job. >> we have seen over and over with this president that loyalty is a one way street. i will just say, kaitlan, this latest outburst frankly from the president, if this isn't what is going to shake the republican leadership in congress to realize what he is doing is actually dangerous, not only dangerous, they're not doing it for the fundamentals of democracy, they should do it for their own political power because if he is telling people that the system is rigged, there are people that support him telling people not to vote in
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a member of the congressional black caucus, bonnie watson coleman of new jersey says she's disappointed so far in the president-elect's cabinet level nominations. she said i am disappointed i haven't seen enough black women and black men. i recognize there are a lot more positions to be announced. joining me, jamal bowman of new york. congressman, welcome. i want to remind viewers you defeated a fellow democrat, elliott angle, chairman of the house foreign affairs committee. thank you for joining me now. first question is do you think joe biden is doing enough to keep his promise to pick an administration that roieflects america? >> i think it is important for us to have racial diversity obviously, also important to have gender diversity and as we saw, he picked an all female communications team which is historic and huge. but i think ideological
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diversity is most key here. we need to make sure that president-elect joe biden is picking as many progressives to his cabinet as possible. the people have spoken, came out in droves, organized across the country to help joe biden get elected and the people, grass roots, when they helped get him elected demanded action on climate change. >> has he so far? >> i'm sorry? >> are you satisfied with the way the biden transition has answered that call you're talking about, has put progressives that you're describing in key posts? >> well, we support people like janet yellen, people like john kerry, and some others, but we're not hearing names like rahm emanuel, bruce reed, makes my skin crawl.
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rahm emanuel covered up murder in chicago, we cannot have anyone like that in the biden cabinet, especially as we deal with the coronavirus and as we deal with an economic depression and racial reckoning in our time. when i hear names like that, i get worried. so far i see diversity and ideology. i would like to see more progressives chosen, particularly as we look at a position like secretary of education which obviously i'm passionate about. >> bruce reed is definitely a moderate, range of motion ee men well would argue he considers himself a progressive, in line with most things you believe. >> well, progressives don't close elementary schools, progressives open up more schools and lower class size and invest in public education and they don't bend to the charter school lobby, so i disagree with
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that. >> mr. bowman, i want to ask you about something president obama said this week. he made news when he warned activists not to use what he calls snappy slogans like defund the police. you tweeted the following. damn, mr. president, didn't you say trayvon could have been my son in 2014? black lives matter was too much in 2016. kaepernick was too much. today discussing police budgets is too much. the problem is america's comfort with black death, not discomfort with slogans. quickly, i want to play for you something else that president obama said in a different interview this week when asked specifically about defunding the police. >> no, because i think the phrase implies that somehow we could do without the police or that the police are the only source of our problem, but what i would do is rethink how we do
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policing in a lot of communities. >> so what do you think, the branding defund the police is bad messaging, turns people off to the real reforms that you are trying to put forward. what is your response and take on that? do you think there's something to that? >> defund the police does not mean abolish the police. it means a dramatic reduction in the number of police in poor communities and particularly poor black and brown communities. historically when our communities needed jobs, they didn't bring us jobs, they brought us police and created a system of mass incarceration, and we live in a country where if you're black or brown, you're more likely to be killed by police, more likely to be incarcerated and more likely to not afford bail. we are focusing on this slogan defund the police, but where are the resources to bring jobs into our communities, the resources to fully fund public schools,
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where are the resources to deal with the issue of housing and food insecurity. we're not talking about any of that. we are worried about a slogan. lastly, only 5% of police work is focused on violent crimes, the other 95% can be handled by other agencies, mental health institutions, domestic violence professionals, et cetera. we have been doing policing wrong for decades. some cities, 40% of the budget goes toward policing, and police are terrorizing black and brown communities, evidence is clear, across the country. we have to do something different and allow republicans to tlflip a talking about and me usury spond to it. this is about building up in a way that uplifts black communities, not leaves them oppressed. >> i look forward to seeing the legislation you put forward now that you're going to be a member of congress and how you're going to use your voice in the united
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states house of representatives. thank you so much for joining me. we have a lot more to talk about, i'm sure we'll be able to do that in weeks and months ahead. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. a programming note, president-elect joe biden and vice president-elect kamala harris join jake tapper for the first interview since the election. that's tonight at 9:00 p.m. up next, the mayor of los angeles tells residents to hunker down and cancel everything. en an idaho potato as a side dish. but does this look like a side dish to you? ...or this? ...or these? does a side dish have a dog like this? ...or a truck like this? or a good-looking, charismatic, spokesfarmer like me? i think we both know the answer to that. always look for the grown in idaho seal. side dish?
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at home restrictions. hospitalizations in california are rising steeply, more than tripling since mid november. the mayor of los angeles warns if hospitalizations continue at the current pace, l.a. county will run out of hospital beds by christmas. now, for the upcoming holidays, l.a. mayor eric garcetti is asking residents of the city to cancel everything. let's get straight to l.a. where stephanie elam is. my question is, are people there listening, stephanie? >> reporter: you know, dana, we were noting, me and the producer were looking on the streets, there's a lot less cars out there today. maybe people are actually listening to this because numbers are terrifying. if you take a look at what california reported for their daily numbers for coronavirus cases, 20,759, one day number they came out with. a new record there. also, hospitalizations, more than 9300 people in the hospital in california.
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that's also a record there. these are scary numbers we're looking at. when you look at los angeles county as well, they're very concerned. saying that right now they have about 122 icu beds that are available in a county of about 10 million people. this is why we are already in stay at home order here in los angeles county and this is why the entire state of california, 99.2% of the population is living in the most restrictive tier, and why they're very much concerned they may have to put in more controls because the virus is spreading rampantly. dana, i wish people could spend time talking to people who recovered from the virus or lost loved ones. maybe then they would understand why it is so important to play their role. >> absolutely. just listen. listen to the stories. unfortunately there are lots and lots of them. stephanie, thank you so much for that reporting. record breaking 100,000 americans are hospitalized because of coronavirus. that's even before we see the impact from the thanksgiving
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holiday. cdc director dr. robert redfield says he is worried how the health care system will hold up. >> december and january and february are going to be rough times. i actually believe they're going to be the most difficult time in the public health history of this nation largely because of the stress that it is going to put on the health care system. >> i want to bring in marvin o'quinn, president and chief officer which runs hospitals in 21 states. first, walk us through what you're seeing at your hospitals. >> well, across the board we're seeing increases in patients in every one of our hospitals. we are now up to roughly 2100 positive cases in our hospitals. that's an increase of almost 70%
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since november 11th. we are seeing about 70 to 100 new cases every day. >> wow. 70% increase since november 11th. so the obvious question is are you going to be able to handle it if it gets worse because public health experts are expecting a bigger surge in the next couple weeks, post thanksgiving. >> well, clearly we are very concerned but we feel that we have done all of the things necessary to be able to manage it. we expected this through our own modeling and obviously the national modeling we have been tracking, so we spent the summer getting ready. we built our own testing capacity lab in arizona. we have 90 to 100 days of ppe on supply in inventory. we bought 600 more ventilators
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across our system and we have adopted new staffing model to allow us to keep as many people working as possible because that's the main issue for us is the staffing. we have the physical capacity to expand beds and we can also double patients up in certain rooms. the real issue for us is will we be able to get nursing staff and physician staff to take care of the patients. >> that is really one of the questions now. on that note, listen to michael osterholm that serves on president-elect biden's advisory board. he is worried about the quality hospitals can provide to patients even if they have the extra beds and so forth that you're talking about. let's listen. >> right now we have stretched our health care worker staff as far as we can and it will get to the point where the quality of care will be severely hampered
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if in fact we don't have health care workers. you may get a bed in a hospital, will you get the trained health care workers that can care for you? >> does that concern you as the coo of a major hospital company? >> well, what concerns me is the fatigue factor that's going to impact our staff. clearly our staff and the staff at all of the hospitals are well trained and prepared to manage these types of patients and we learned a lot in the fall, not the fall but the spring about how to manage these patients. the issue is folks are just getting tired, work a lot of hours, a lot of consecutive days. we offered programs for our staff to help them deal with the trauma of managing and seeing so much death and mortality they're dealing with, and staff are
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ava availing themselves of that. i am comfortable there are people that will do very good job of taking care of these patients, it is just the issue of do we have enough of them. >> thank you so much to you. thank you for every health care worker who works in your hospitals and across the country. the level of exhaustion is not something any of us can wrap our heads around. thank you for sharing what's going on there. i appreciate it. up next, trump supporters are fleeing facebook to twitter to join an uncensored platform. we have more on that next. to u the protein you need with less of the sugar you don't. [grunting noise] i'll take that. woohoo! 30 grams of protein and 1 gram of sugar. ensure max protein. with nutrients to support immune health. less sick days! cold coming on? zicam® is clinically proven to shorten colds! highly recommend it!
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just today, facebook announced they'll remove debunked coronavirus theories. >> i got sick of twitter. censored. >> she was in jail every other day. twitter jail. >> we just want to be able to be part of the conversation, able to speak on the platform without being labeled, without being besummer muched.
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>> convinced tech companies are biased against conservative views, some trump supporters turned to parler with fewer rules and facebook or twitter. >> every time facebook takes steps to kur ate content an act as a publication, it drives more to our platform which is a town square. >> how is parler different? >> free speech, you can voice your opinions. >> as long as you don't get people to round up and threats on people? >> incite violence, which we don't, never have, never will, we have our free speech on there. >> what is something you can say on parler you couldn't say on facebook? >> that the coronavirus is not as deadly as everybody says it is. >> you can literally post that on twitter and put in jail for that. >> post it on parler? >> yes.
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no problem. >> the cdc says we should be wearing masks. you don't accept that? >> no. >> you said you were in facebook jail. explain to the audience what facebook jail is, how did you end up in there? >> i posted something about the crowd, it was racist, wasn't allowed to post for i don't know, 48 hours. every time you write something that they disagree with. >> why have you been suspended by twitter? >> pass. >> have you said racist stuff? there's ways to get suspended, being racist, sharing hate. do you share stuff like that? >> absolutely not. it is just stating a disputed opinion. >> give an example of a disputed opinion in the case of you getting suspended. >> no. >> then what is parler?
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>> parler is the latest alternative social media platform. >> online radical experts compares it to a dive bar. >> before the pandemic we went to baseball stadiums, watch games as a community. if you started cursing or infringing on the experience of another fan, you were removed from the game. where did you go to watch the rest of it? at the dive bar next door where the behavioral standards are lax and it is okay to share opinions aren't okay to be shared around others. >> if somebody is pushing hateful, dangerous rhetoric, do you worry that that could lead to off line violence, and having a platform that allows for people to post and promote view points. that could be dangerous? >> i mean, obviously anything can be dangerous. i live with my mind free enough to know any situation can spiral out of control. the whole idea of people sharing
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ideas with each other, i don't see how that leads to real world violence. >> spokesperson for el paso mayor's office. >> violent speech online can lead to real world violence. a platform that preached free speech, let hate run amuck was linked to mass killings in el paso, texas, and christ church, new zealand. >> in other echo chambers like parler, there are no dissenting opinions. the narratives are further reinforced by others. these are the kinds of places that facilitate unintentional radicalization process. >> fbi and twitter deny their bias against conservative ideas and instead of cracking down on misinformation and hate. parler has seen a spike in down loads since election day, and most users appear to be on the right.
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>> you started using it? >> no. but i mess around a little bit, but it's never any fun when it is just us. it turns into an echo chamber and it is never any fun because we can't mess with guys like you, you know what i mean? it is no fun when it is just us saying what we know to be true to each other. >> there's no lids on the platform? >> i want to own lids, have a discussion, i want to talk to people. you know what i mean? i want to engage. i want to have a discussion. but it is totally, it can't happen the way things are going. >> can you not have that discussion on >> thank you for that eye opening, important report. thank you for joining us. brianna keilar picks up coverage after a quick break. ♪
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