his true passion were his grandchildren who called him bull and will miss him deeply. arnold friedman of massachusetts was the own of an electrical distribution company and he was known for a great sense of humor and his love of boston sports team, and he leaves behind three children, three grandchildren and three great-grandchildren. may they rest in peace and may their memories be a blessing. erin burnett "out front" starts right now. "out front" next, breaking news president elect joe biden says he will ask all americans to wear a mask during his first 100 days in office this as the united states rids record deaths and the latest reported numbers meaning one american is dying every single 30 seconds. plus the white house's liaison to the justice department banned from entering that building after trying to access sensitive information about possible election fraud. and she could be the biggest threat to the president, even a pardon can't protect trump from

what the new york attorney general is investigating and tonight she will be out front. let's go out front. good evening. i'm erin burnett. out front tonight the breaking news. president elect joe biden telling cnn that he will ask all americans to wear a mask during his first 100 days in office. >> i'm going to ask the public for 100 days to mask. just 100 days to mask. not forever. 100 days, and i think we'll see a significant reduction. >> it comes as one american is now dying of covid-19 every 30 seconds. every 30 seconds. it means two people have died since i began speaking. more than 275,000 americans have now died from the virus which is equivalent to losing the entire city of orlando, florida. it wasn't long ago that we reported an american was dying from covid every 90 seconds and i remember that day because when we were talking about the number and checking to make sure it was right, we thought it was

incomprehensible and he kept checking it and checking it, could that possibly be? that was 35 days ago and now someone is dying every 30 seconds and what has the president been doing in that time? well, he has been focused on other things like trying to overturn the election that he lost. >> if you count the legal votes, i easily win. >> we won the election easily. >> we won an election. >> yes. >> but they don't like that. >> just to be clear, he lost. in the last 35 days trump also fired off more than 800 tweets. 800 tweets, almost all of them baselessly claiming the election was rigged and now as an american is dying every 30 seconds today from covid, we are learning that there have been multiple white house meetings about pardoning trump's inner circle including his adult children, his son-in-law jared kushner and even kushner's father and trump making an

appearance at white house holiday parties. so far there are invitt asiaatir 20 reported party, indoors, masks not required and even as the president's own task force is warning about indoor christmas celebrations and even as dr. fauci has been very explicit to all of us that small family gatherings are responsible for the family spread right now. again, spread that even as i speak is causing a record amount of deaths nine months into the onslaught. in the 35 days trump has spent a lot of time on social media, not talking about covid. no. here's an example. on thanksgiving day, a day when 1,232 american deaths from covid were reported, trump accused twitter of sending out, quote, false trends. i remember that, i said what is he talking about? guess what was trending at that time? top trend was the hash tag diaper don which i suppose was because he was, you know, sitting at his desk, right? so people did that. so trump was upset as something as absurd and silly as diaper

don trending on twitter, the twitter trends were made up and including raises for military troops, to obscure a rule that's in the same bill. that's how upset he was about diaper don. that is how he spent meaningful time during these 35 days and he also spent time recording a 46-minute video, a video filled with what he knows to be lies about the election and a video that he actually had the temerity to say, quote, may be the most important speech i've ever made. the only time he mentioned coronavirus in the 46 minutes was to attack democrats for encouraging their supporters to vote by mail during the pandemic. the 46-minute rant released yesterday. in 46 minutes in those 46 minutes up to 90 americans died of coronavirus. he calls that the most important speech he's ever made. one of the only things trump does care about when it comes to the virus seems to be himself

getting credit. >> don't let joe biden take credit for the vaccines. joe biden failed with the swine flu, h1n1, totally failed with the swine flu. don't let him take credit for the vaccines because the vaccines were me. >> the vaccines were me. and his press secretary kayleigh mcenany took it further. >> having a businessman as business, the trump vaccine. >> more americans are dying more than ever before from this virus and to be very clear here, the vast majority of these deaths at this point, these record deaths should not be happening and they would not be happening should there be clear, national leadership and rules on things like masks. as america sets a death record, trump is silent on anything, but the election and on demanding credit for vaccines. kaitlan collins is live outside the white house tonight. the president is focusing on everything, but the pandemic. >> that's right. erin, for the last several months the president was not

that focused on the pandemic. if you talk to people who were talking to the president about what was important to him in the days leading up to the election, but in the last month since that election happened and since the president lost that election, sources say he has been more disengaged throughout this entire pandemic because it is just not something that the president wants to focus on, wants to talk about, has private meetings about and instead he's been completely consumed about this election loss and focusing on the efforts that why recording a 46-minute video which i'm told was recorded at the white house last week, edited and of course yesterday was the day that the president decided to release it and was not talking about the number of covid-19 deaths or what else we were seeing play out across the country and instead is focusing on that and the closest he's gotten to talking about the pandemic in the last few weeks was exactly what you said there, trying to say don't let joe biden take credit for the vaccines and something that joe biden has not attempted to do so far, but is the president's fear that people will start to get

vaccinated and once joe biden is vaccinated and if you had to look at what the president is saying and what he is focused on in between his very rare public appearances these days and his trips to the golf course and tweets. you see such a different message coming from his task force to state officials because if you look at the reports we got yesterday, what the task force sent to governors and state officials who are figuring out how to get this under control, they say the risk to americans is at an all-time high and we are at an incredibly dangerous place in the country and those are in private reports that cnn is trying to go through loops and hoops to obtain, but you're not hearing it from the president himself. kaitlan, thank you very much. >> the lack of leadership at the federal level has been putting the burden on fighting the virus state and local leaders such as roy cooper who is out front now, and governor, so this is what you're dealing with in north carolina. a record number of hospitalizations and new cases. how bad is it in your state right now, sir? >> our numbers are at alarming

rates. it's one of the reasons why we put in a mandatory mask mandate, why we have put in capacity restrictions, why we closed bars, enforced smaller gatherings, but we sure could use leadership in the white house to help us with this messaging when we've had a president that is discouraging masks and encouraging mass gathering. that causes governors problems and we've been on the front lines here. we're going to be excited about distributing these vaccines. i think there's light at the end of the tunnel, but we have to save lives during these next few months. it's going to be a long, tough winter for all of us, and we will need that leadership in the white house to help us through this. >> so governor gavin newsom announced a regional stay at home orders. delaware announced a stay at home advisory, do you think you may have to take more

restrictive measures than even the mask mandate which you're saying you've put in place which the president elect has said he wants for at least 100 days after his inauguration. >> my current order will run out next week. all of our options are on the table to tighten things down. we know we may need to do that. our hospitals have capacity right now. we've been staying in close contact with them, but we are ready to do what we need to do to protect the health and safety of north carolinians. what would help us if people would obey the rules and when you have a lead are in the white house that's encouraging people not to obey the rules, that causes significant problems for us. i am pleased that our local governments are stepping up enforcement of mandate as it we put in place and we need to do more of that. >> so you talk about the parties and the maskless parties that the president has appeared at

these. in his last day of campaigning he was in your state, governor cooper, and this is what he said. >> the governor of north carolina, you have to open up your state. north carolina will be opened on november 4th. [ cheering ] right after the elections. the anti- -- because they want us to look bad. they don't care about people. they want us to look bad. >> he said you don't care about people. the minute the election is over you should open your state back up. a week after that, after the election you extended your phase three restrictions. so the question is how much does rhetoric like that hurt? when he came down and said this is all just made up to make me look bad. how much did that hurt? >> it hurts a lot because it makes people believe that this isn't serious when it is, and it's putting people in the hospital. it's costing people's lives, and we have some of the very best tools that don't cost very much. wearing a mask, being socially

distant, avoiding gatherings, those are the kinds of things that we can do between now and the successful vaccines that we're going to get out soon, but when you have leaders that people follow who are telling them to do the opposite, then that puts all of us in danger and that's why we are looking forward to a white house that's going to work with us to try to get the right messaging out to people about what they need to do to stay safe. we don't want to give up now. we're at the 10 yard line. we don't want to punt now. we snead to get through these next few months wearing the masks, staying socially distant and doing the things that we need to do to protect the public and we need more help from the federal government. they're going to fly in these vaccines and leave them here in our state and we will be responsible for getting it to people. it will be com mri kayed logistically. >> yes. >> with the pfizer, we have to give one and another 21 days,

with moderna one and then one 28 days later and it will be tough for governors to do that. >> thank you very much, governor. i appreciate your time. i want to go to dr. sanjay gupta and dr. reiner who advised the white house under joe w. bush. joe biden says he will call for americans to wear a mask for a hundred days after he takes office. he can't mandate this. governor cooper are trying to do that at the state level, but how significant would that be? having the president of the united states say that and push that from the presidential podium? he says it will explicitly save lives. won't it? >> yeah. i think the evidence is pretty clear on this, and frankly, even in fewer than a hundred days you'd probably see the impacts of a significant number of people wearing masks and you're right about the mandates. it's interesting. it's hard to mandate these thing, but if governmental buildings and other institutions started doing it, i was at the

white house two weeks ago to do an interview over there, and i was shocked in the eisenhower executive office building, inside, cold outside, i would say half of the people were wearing masks. . it is unbelievable at at white house that that would still be happening. >> we talked about arizona on your show before and mask mandate brought something under control. let me show you another one, just because i like digging hyperlocal and they put a masked mandate green. thing are fine now and let's lift the mask mandate and the numbers go back up and once you lift them there's a lot of viral spread if the numbers go back up. they really do work. i think it's clear. >> it's clear and you see thanksgiving and the numbers ticking up. it just raises the deep concern that everyone should feel about what we will see in the next few

weeks in the country after thanksgiving. dr. reiner, i mentioned briefly stay at home orders in california. do you think more states are going to do this at this point or do you think people -- that the popular fatigue is just so severe, despite the record death that that will not happen? >> states are going have to do that. whether the population is fatigued or not, and they're going to have to do that because hospital capacities are going to be reached. we are are starting to worry about that in parts of california where i heard today in los angeles county only has about a hundred icu beds left and once you exceed your capacity to take care of sick people you have nothing else to do other than to shut down and put in place a stay at home order. we're going have to do that. so what the public needs to understand is that the way to perhaps flatten the curve and we need to flatten the curve until

we have enough vaccine around, and that's going to take many weeks to three to four months. the way to do that is to mask up, to social distance, but if that's not enough we will have to close down. states are going to have to do it whether they want to or not. >> you mentioned the hospital bed situation in california and sanjay you said today that the american health care system is at the breaking point and those are your words and the country is tracking as badly as it was not in april, during the 1918 flu pandemic, right? when we had nowhere near the medical abilities that we have now in any way, shape or form. that is a really incredible thing to say. >> yeah. it struck me. i've been sort of tracking this for some time. first of all, with regard to the breaking point. one thing to sort of keep in mind is 90% of hospital systems according to dr. redfield are now in the red zone, running into the capacity problems that dr. reiner is describing. when we saw this back in the spring and it was primarily in

the northeast and you had other regions you could count on. there were healthcare workers going from new york to tech tex and georgia, and polices can go to other parts of the region. you can't do that if the whole country is on fire, but 1918. obviously, it's the pandemic that people talk about, but if you see the graph what that second wave was like program obviously the population is higher now and the fact that we have better hospitals, ic beds and therapeutics and better overall, we're tracking what happened in 1918 and i was just so struck by it because it speaks to this idea that no matter how good we get medically and no matter how good we get scientifically, human behavior, if it doesn't follow it trumps that. it still ruins the gains that you make in these other areas. a hundred years later, despite

the modern advances we've made we may trek as badly as 1918. >> that's the law of numbers and you get to the point when there are so many involved that you don't have the capacity. >> to that vein, pompeo is inviting 900 people to a holiday party. they say guests will be required to wear a mask and social distancing guidelines. i'm not sure how you can manage that amount of people at the same event. would you attend a party like that, some kind of social distancing and masks are there, but come to our party? >> no. absolutely not. so it's unsafe to gather in numbers anywhere in the united states right now. actually, in d.c., the d.c. law prohibits indoor gatherings of ten people and that violates the

law, but think about it this way. the kind of gatherings they're having serve food and drink and in order to enjoy food or drink, you have to take your mask off. once you take your mask off, you make yourself available to the fire us. once you're in the hospital i leave my mask on because there is no safe place on eat or a private venue anywhere in the united states. it's a reckless thing. it's reckless behavior. when i go to lunch, if i have to eat between cases, i eat in my car in the parking garage and i go back in because that's the safest way to do it. the state department parties are a menace. >> thank you both very much and as i said, right now an american dying every 30 seconds. 35 days ago that was an american dying every 90 seconds. thank you both very much. coming up tonight, don't miss jake tapper's exclusive joint

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so the president now won't even say if he still has confidence in barr. >> ask me that in a number of weeks from now. they should be looking at all of this fraud. >> so what's that? he's giving him another chance? okay, bill, if you go and find some fraud now i won't fire you? john avalon is out front now, cnn political analyst and abby philip is with us and our cnn political correspondent. abby, the president says it's rigged and flawed and all of these things that he knows to be false and he sends a liaison over to get access to this sensitive information and the doj bars trump's person from coming in. it's almost like this is scripted. so now the president's what? dangling to bill barr, oh, if you go find fraud now i won't fire you in the next 40 days? what's going on? >> it seems like, first of all, this liaison is someone who has been installed over at the justice department to essentially be the eyes and ears

of the white house over in that building, and this person is clearly searching for something that is first of all, confidential in nature in dealing with ongoing investigations and these are not the types of things when documents ought to be floating around with the justice department and handed over to political appointees and this idea that they can just have someone hand over justice department documents is really kind of shocking in a lot of ways. >> i remember four years ago when then attorney general loretta lynch under president trump had a brief tarmac meeting with bill clinton and it was the scandal of the year. this is exactly the kind of thing they think republicans would have been pulling their hair out several years ago and they're not now. you know, the president can fire bill barr. the question is why hasn'tly? the question is he knows that

it's over and the president will leave office in seven weeks and so will bill barr. so there's really no point in doing that at this point. >> john, it is incredible, ask me in a few weeks. he's giving the guy another chance, you know, like, okay. run and go get the bone this time. i mean, john, trump has been furious with barr for a while now, right? there's still no public report on the justice department investigation into the russia probe and barr said that wasn't going to come out before the election and that made trump really mad and here's what trump said about barr back in august. >> bill barr can go down as the greatest attorney general in the history of our country or he can go down as just an average guy. it depends on what's going to happen. >> so, john, bill barr has been along with almost everything the president has wanted and the echo is word for word and yet he didn't put that russia report out before the election and now he says no fraud that would overturn the election. does bill barr have any chance

of going down as a decent attorney general in the history books? >> no, but this might be his only or last best chance. look, i mean, bill barr has shaded, he has prevaricated and acted as an attack dog on television. >> yeah. >> rereframed the mueller report and what he can't do is manufacture evidence out of thin air through the justice department investigations to back up a presidential political conspiracy theory. that's just not within his power. and that's what the president's suggesting to, and it shows that you cannot accommodate or appease this president if you want to keep faith with facts or decency or ultimately as we're seeing, democracy. that's the line that we're seeing today to the extent that anything still exists other than rank self-interest with this president. >> so, abby, jake tapper sat down with president elect joe biden and kamala harris and it

was the first joint interview since they won. you can see it in full tonight at 9:00, but i wanted to play a clip. abby, here it is. >> president trump is reportedly considering a wave of preemptive pardons for his adult children and rudy giuliani and he's floated the idea in private conversations of possibly pardoning himself which he insists he has the power to do though that has never been litigated. does this concern you? all these preemptive pardons? >> well, it's -- it concerns me in terms of what kind of precedent sets and how the rest of the world looks at us as a nation of laws and justice, but look, our justice department is going to operate independently on those issues that how to respond to any of that. i'm not going to be telling them what they have to do and don't

have to do. i'm not going to be saying go prosecute a, b or c. i'm not going to be telling them. that's not the role -- that's not my justice department. that's the people's justice department. so the persons or persons i pick to run that department are going to be people who are going to have the independent capacity to decide who gets prosecuted and who doesn't. in terms of the pardons, you're not going to see in our administration that kind of approach to pardons nor are you going see in our administration the approach to making policy by tweets, you know? it's going to be a totally different way in which we approach the justice system. >> during the primary last year, madam vice president elect, you told npr that the justice department, quote, would have no choice, but to prosecute president trump and that, quote, there has to be accountability. how does that square with what the president elect just said about not telling the justice department to go after individuals.

>> we will not tell the justice department how to do its job and we are going to assume and i say this as a former attorney general elected in california and i ran the second largest department of justice in the united states that any decision coming out of the justice department, in particular the united states department of justice, should be based on facts. it should be based on the law. it should not be influenced by politics, period. >> i guarantee you that's how it would be run. >> so obviously, they're trying to make a very specific point there, but the point appears to be if you take what the vice president president elect had said before, she's saying the facts, if the facts lead there and she obviously seems to believe that they will, then their justice department will do it. they're not going to tell the justice department to do it, but it's just -- it just may go there. ? yeah. i mean, you know, erin. what you just said is probably, i think, what she believes, but i thought it was notable that she did not actually make that

connection. >> yeah. >> between the facts being what they are and the justice department then acting on it, and i think it's because her position now has to be in line with what joe biden's position is which is we're not even going to go there. it's not even going to be close. there is a desire in the incoming biden administration to really draw a bright line on these issues and make the contrast unmistakable between what president trump has been doing for four years and what they are wanting to do and there's really not a lot of room there for her to even suggest that a prosecution would be in the future and some of the reporting in previous weeks that joe biden as an incoming administration has been sig will nahhing to democrats and reb rals who want his administration to pursue some of these matters that he's not going to go there because doing so, i think, their

perception is that it would only continue to create the sense of vitriol and political nature of the justice department. >> political vengefulness. >> exactly. >> of course, there is the great irony there, rid? if you don't pursue something that you should pursue because you don't want to have that perception. look, it's complicated. thank you both very much. i do want to say, though, whatever the biden justice department does, even if trump pardons himself, right? and makes it so there's no federal issue for him, that will not protect him from new york's attorney general. no pardon can protect him from her. so what is she investigating? leticia james is my guest next and the demand on food banks in this country growing tonight. >> times are so tough right now. i have a 4-year-old at home and i have a 4-year-old at home and it's horrible.or a trade. why don't you call td ameritrade for a strategy gut check? what's that? you run it by an expert, you talk about the risk and potential profit and loss. could've used that before i hired my interior decorator.

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xfinity can deliver gig to the most homes. tonight, the woman who may be trump's biggest threat when he leaves office. i'm talking about the attorney general of new york, democrat leticia james. she is leading a civil probe of the trump organization right now which is clearly on trump's mind. he has singled out the attorney

general by name in his 46-minute long rant about election fraud. yesterday saying in part, i hear that the same people that failed to get me in washington have sent every piece of information to new york so that they can try to get me there. and all it's been is a big investigation in washington and new york and any place else they can investigate because that's what they want to do and they want to take not me, but us down and we can never let them do that. attorney general, thank you very much. we know president trump has held talks about issuing preemptive pardons for himself and for his family, for his adult children and for his son-in-law. i just want to be clear so everyone understands that would protect him federally, but it would not protect him from anything you're investigating, correct? >> first, erin, thank you for having me this evening, and i want the american people to know that the days of this administration are closely coming to an end, and last year

i introduced a bill to the new york state legislature to close a pardon loophole and currently, there is nothing in the law in the state of new york that would preclude an investigation by local and state authorities against the trump organization, donald trump and/or any other member of his family or associates or business partners. there's nothing preventing our investigation from going forward against donald trump as a private citizen. >> okay. so now the big question will come. if he goes ahead with these pardon, does that mean that you need to do even more investigating? does it influence your decision about whether to pursue, you know, criminal law violations because you're going to be the only one, you know, really who can, right? the feds can't. >> well, as you know, there is a criminal investigation that's currently being conducted by the

manhattan district attorney. our investigations for the most part is civil. so our investigation will continue when mr. trump becomes a private citizen. nothing will preclude our investigation going forward and we will continue and continue to investigate, and if, in fact, the facts and the evidence support the law we will bring in action against the trump organization and individuals, as well. >> let me ask you that about individuals and i know, obviously, as you mentioned it's civil thus for for your investigation. mr. vance, is criminal. is it possible from what you've seen, attorney general james, that there is evidence of wrongdoing that would lead to civil or criminal charges for individuals, for president trump or his children? >> what i can say, erin, is the following and this is all public record. our investigation is based on the testimony of michael cohen.

michael cohen testified before congress and we at the new york state attorney general has broad investigatory powers over illegality and fraud, and what we are investigating is the fact that the trump organization inflated their assets for the purposes of obtaining loans and insurance coverage and deflated their assets for the same assets for the purposes of avoiding and evading tax liability and/or limiting it. so our investigation will be ongoing and at this point in time because it is an active investigation, i'm limit individual that i can say. >> right. which i understand. so let me ask you, you heard the president, i quoted the president claiming that he has been told that all of the evidence that was part of investigations in washington has been sent to new york with the intent to get him. that's how he sees it, but is

that true and as part of that are you and mr. vance communicating regularly and on the same page about what you're doing? >> so it would be unethical and illegal to coordinate with the district attorney of manhattan. there is no coordination, and what we heard yesterday was 46 minutes of ranting. 46 minutes filled with misinformation, disinformation and outright falsehoods. it represented a complete meltdown, and that's rather unfortunate. the reality is that our investigations are based on the facts of the evidence and the law, in politics ends and stops at the door. >> all right. attorney general james, i appreciate your time and i thank you tonight. >> thank you. >> and also this hour, president trump's legal team including rudy giuliani are in georgia at a state senate hearing trying to overturn the election results which have now three times confirmed that joe biden won the

state. it comes after giuliani attended a widely ridiculed house hearing in michigan where he pushed conspiracy theorys to undermine the election and joe biden also won michigan by a margin 14 times greater than that of which president trump trump won it by four years ago. out front is matthew travis from the cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency and he retired after president trump fired chris krebs as director after he said it was the most secure in american history and something krebs felt was important to say and because it is true and the president kept trying to make people believe it wasn't. he's going there for a rally this weekend. team trump is there today, michigan yesterday, giuliani there trying to undermine the election. you've had recounts. you've had certifications by democrat and republicans. how troubling is it that this sort of stuff is still happening?

>> it's troubling not because the president -- erin, good to be with you this evening. it's not troubling because of the pursuit of the legal process. what's troubling is the volume and the fictional nature of the rhetoric coming from his legal team and frankly, coming from the white house. you know, this type of -- this really undermines the integrity of the election as it's perceived by anyone listening to that seriously. some years back i was election observer and an international election monitor in places like bosnia, serbia and armenia where some of these places have a post-warren viernme post-war environment with political fragility and i've never heard anything in those countries to the extent that i hear now and the president wants to promote and teach american exceptionalism and that's a sentiment that resonates with me, but we want to be exceptional for the good things and we don't want to be exceptional at the crazy and bad

stuff and the way the electoral election sector from the volunteers to the election infrastructure industry is being vilified and that is exceptionally bad. the president and his administration should take pride in how secure the election was. it was an entire poll of government and that's something to be proud of. the election was secure. >> yeah. and it is something to be proud of especially given everyone that was targeting it and in part one of the reasons why it was so secure were your efforts and all of these, you know, individual voting from home. it was incredibly safe in so many ways. so let me ask you about rudy giuliani, specifically. i mentioned georgia and also michigan. he attended a michigan house oversight committee hearing and i wanted to play for you, matthew, one exchange between one of the gop lawmakers and one of giuliani's witnesses who is an i.t. contractor for dominion voting systems who has made unfounded claims that thousands

of ballots were counted multiple times and not reflected in the poll book. here a here's the exchange. >> the poll book is completely off. >> 30,000? >> i'd say that poll book was off by over 100,000. that poll book -- why don't you look at the registered voters on there? >> so my question then is if the -- >> just how many -- wait. what about the turnout rate? 120%? >> let's representative johnson ask his question. >> my question is we're not seeing the poll book off by 30,000 votes. >> what did you do? take it and do something crazy to it? >> this is like watching some sort of a skit, and then when you start to laugh you realize it's real life. >> it was certainly compelling testimony, but i don't think it was the type of compelling that

mayor giuliani was looking for, and let me say that miss carrone, i support everyone who supported the election, we need more election volunteers and i want to thank her for being part of the election, but if you're -- and she should and everyone else, if they saw fraud we should be identifying that, but when you bring the charges that you need to come a little bit strong tore the hoop, so to speak. what the state of michigan put in place, they upgraded their voting systems. they have a new auditing system and even the paper ballots in terms of the protections from watermarks and bar codes and even the way the paper -- to do at scale what some of these accusations are asserting is just incredible and the wayne county judge deemed that testimony not credible back in november and i would tend to concur with his assessment. >> matthew, i appreciate your time. thank you so much. >> thank you, erin. >> okay, next.

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distribution since the pandemic began. many of these people are visiting a food bank for the very first time in their lives. >> i lost my job recently, so, you know, it's hard to pay for food. >> both of us are not working right now, and we have four kids that we have to feed. >> times are so tough right now. i have a 4-year-old at home and it's horrible. you know, everything that's going on, thankfully i still have my job and everything, but it's sometimes still not enough. >> michael flood is with me now. president and ceo of the los angeles region nat food bank which is running the food distribution which you just saw. more than doubling the demand in the food distribution than you saw before the pandemic. so today i know you were prepared for 1,500 people, and then we could see cars lined up for blocks. these pictures are heart wrenching. is this as bad as you've seen

it, michael? >> oh, definitely. i mean, i've been doing this work for more than 30 years, and it's never been this -- at this level of need, and as your interviews indicated, a lot of people knew, never having sought food assistance from a food bank before and not sure where to turn. and really worried. a lot of anxiety there with regards to just the uncertainty of the -- not just the pandemic, but the economic situation and how that's impacted so many families and individuals. >> so i know you've contributed, like, 140 million pounds of food since the pandemic began. if my numbers are right. and, you know -- >> right. >> when you hear these stories from people in your lines, you know, that it amazes me how calm and graceful they are. to lose your job and have four young children at home, i mean, and food insecure is terrifying. what do people need the most?

what are the greatest needs of the people coming to your bank right now? >> well, food is a symptom of other needs. and there's such a crunch on the budgets for so many families and individuals. people are trying to keep that roof over their heads. you know, we live in an area of very high housing costs going into this pandemic. and those -- those costs continue. so, you know, really, we're looking for, you know, immediately more food to be able to continue these distributions, but we really are lending our voice to d.c. to get something done because the families we're seeing, they don't see light at the end of the tunnel right now. they are right into the middle of this experiencing great anxiety about feeding themselves, feeding their families, meeting all their bills. so we really are leading our voice and lending our voice out there for congress and the administration to get something done. >> so when we spoke to some of the people waiting at your food bank today, you heard some of

them. but what you're doing is essential. and i just wanted to play a few more individuals, what they had to say. >> sure. >> food banks are the necessity. i mean, how do we get what we need, you know, unless we have this help? >> i'm so appreciative of the food bank and everything that everybody's doing over here. it's awesome. >> there many people, michael, around the country, who are wondering what they can do to help. people who are lucky enough to not need to go to the food bank. what can people do? >> well, check out your local food bank through the feeding america network at feeds doi feedingamerica.org. you can volunteer your time, too, for those who don't have financial resources to contribute right now. we really are looking for those types of resources. most of the food and financial resources we receive are private. and also usda's played an important role here, too, and we want that to continue into 2021.

because, again, there's been a lot of surplus food we've all tapped into that we need to keep that flowing also so we can reach as many families and individuals as possible. >> michael, thank you very much. >> you're welcome. and next, a small but powerful voting bloc in the state of georgia. their turnout during this run-off coming up could be what decides the control of the entire u.s. senate. sofi made it so easy to pay off my student loan debt. (chime) they were able to give me a personal loan so i could pay off all of my credit cards. (chime) i got my mortgage through sofi and the whole process was so easy. choosing sofi was literally one of the best decisions i could have ever made because it gave me peace of mind. for members like martin. an air force veteran made of doing what's right,

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i didn't know you were listening. there's one small but key voting group that could decide who wins the georgia senate run-offs and thus control of the u.s. senate.

kung lyung lah is "outfront." >> reporter: what looks like your typical political door knocking sounds very different -- >> we're volunteers with the asian american advocacy fund. >> reporter: -- in the georgia senate run-offs. >> i'm not good with english. [ speaking foreign language ] >> reporter: a korean conversation about the critical contest begins. [ speaking foreign language ] >> thank you so much. >> there are so many people like that woman who are asian american voters who have never been asked about their, you know, political beliefs, who have never been asked why voting is important to them. i think this tailored outreach means a lot. >> reporter: and it's why these grassroots volunteers are back targeting asian american voters in the atlanta suburbs. why they are a small share of the total electorate in georgia, the number of asian american voters grew seven times as much as other racial and ethnic groups combined. >> it's actually counties just

like this that, at least in my view, gave joe biden that win. >> reporter: georgia turned blue by a thin margin of just over 12,000 democratic votes. activist stephanie cho says years of local work is beginning to pay off. >> did the aapi vote make a difference? >> i'm so happy to say that it made a huge difference. we also -- i'm so proud to say that we had over 30,000 new voters, asian american voters, for the first time. >> hello, georgia. how are you? >> reporter: that's now capturing the attention of national democratic figures like andrew yang, a cnn commentator, and the challengers in the senate races. democratic senate candidate raphael warnock has targeted asian american voters in multiple languages. from chinese to korean. the other democrat runs for senate, jon ossoff, is also ratcheting up his appeal to that voting bloc. >> do you think that will help transform the perception of our community around the country? yes, it will, and we can make it

happen. >> reporter: but showing up just a month ahead of an election doesn't work, say local organizers. state representative nguyen has spent years organizing in georgia, many of them without help from national parties. >> does it frustrate you how slow it is? >> it does frustrate me. my message is you have to invest in all voters and you have to invest early and you have to invest in the ground strategy, on the ground strategies and build these broad-based coalitions. >> would you like it in korean as well as english or -- >> reporter: has the investment here been enough? volunteers have one month to show it's worth it. >> now, these advocates are not blind to the turnout challenge that lies ahead in these run-offs. not only do they have to do this individual outreach, there's also a good education component that is involved here because some of them aren't even aware of what a run-off is.

there is no direct word translation for run-off in vietnamese. they've got their work cut out for them. >> kyung, thank you so much. thank you for joining us. "ac 360" begins right now. good evening. reality versus unreality again dominates the program tonight. first, the reality. we are now weeks or even days away from vaccinating people against coronavirus, depending how quickly the approval process moves, yet we are also now just entering the darkest moment of the pandemic. in fact, we are not even fully in it. things will get worse, according to the director of the cdc. the numbers apparently aren't yet showing the full impact of thanksgiving travel and holiday gatherings, yet already the daily death toll is stunning. right now the single-day count stands at 2,642, and that number, as you know, won't be final until the overnight hours. last night's 24-hour total was a record. 3,157. cases today topped the 14