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as the extra crediticriticism. >> thank you so much for the report for going so much for sharing that with us. thank you all of you for watching. anderson starts now. good evening to you, 79 years ago, today the country was reeling from the lost of lives of pearl harbor. president roosevelt declared a war against japan. 243 americans died. right now the united states averaging more than 2200 covid deaths a day. that's nearly one pearl harbor every 22 hours. the pandemic will kill upward of
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100,000 more people in this country than all the american troops killed in the second world war. more than half a million deaths. president trump is the one liking this. he called himself the world time president. that was a long time ago. those were the days he wanted to be seen as kmacommander-in-chie and stop listening to doctors who knew what they were doing. the president is not concerned. if anything he seems like a deserter. he's absent. the american people have given him leave, voting him out of the ballot box but he still has some weeks left. he chosen to go a-wall. he decided to join the fight against covid, he's not rallying anyone to wear a mask or talk about it, it is particularly gone given so many of us are now sick or died. december 8th, president
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roosevelt says there is no blinking that our people, our territory and our interests are in grave danger. he even spelled it out for us. august 4, 2020, here is what this president told bob woodward. >> nothing more could have been done. i acted early. i acted early. >> well -- >> it was not just a declaration of surrender but a justification for having surrender months before. this president did not make it in front congress. his words came in a private conversation. he did not have the decency to tell the american people the truth. since then another 115,000 of fellow americans, many voted for the president and if that even mattered have died of coronavirus. as of tonight the count down
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stands at more than 283,000 with more than 1300 deaths reported today. on friday the president signed a new order claiming today's nation national pearl harbor remembrance day. the patriots who lost their lives that day. he had nothing to say, however, about the 2,879 people reported dead the night before he signed that nor did he speak of the dead in georgia the next day. how many of them have survived if more had been done, if more of us had wore masks and socially distanced. if the president was a wartime commander, instead he claims nothing more could have been done. look at the shot there. see how many people behind him not wearing masks?
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that was when he hoped to get your votes. the campaign put people with masks behind him to at least pretend that they care. they would give them masks if they did not have masks their own. they were pretending to do the right thing. they're not pretending the care anymore. it is every man or woman for themselves. that's the way it has been with the president of the people he chosen to surrounds himself with. that's more clear more than ever. as for the dead, the fantasies of the election that he lost. >> we know the democrats will have dead people voting and you got to watch it. dead people. you would not believe how many. >> sure. that's how he speaks of dead people. he speaks lies of fake dead people and said nothing about those who died on his failed watch. he said nothing about the dead who may have voted if covid had
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not taken them nearly 1600 dead voted on election day. people around him don't care anymore and they are looking for other jobs and looking to see how they can salvage of what's left of the reputation. the president is pondering his next move and raking a lot of money and letting him use as he liked by claiming it is going to be for battle against the election fraud that was never was. take a look at the ceremony today, hardly a mask to be seen or any gaps. the president is supposed to be immune from the virus and everyone else, does it look like he cares? he certainly cares about getting credit for the vaccine. he tweeted as i long said pfizer and the others would announce the vaccine after the election because they did not have the courage to do it before.
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the administration denies it. a vaccine could receive an emergency useful in a matter of day. the president shows no interests in doing or saying anything to keep people alive to get it. certainly did not help with the in-coming biden administration as much as they could. not now and perhaps not even up until inauguration. in august he told bob woodward nothing more could have been done or the virus was airborne and far deadlier than the flu. >> it is voluntary, you don't have to do eat. they suggested ford a period of time. this is voluntary. i don't care i am going to be doing it. i don't want to be doing it, somehow sitting in the oval office behind that beautiful
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resolute desk, i think wearing a face mask as president or dictator or king or a queen. i don't see it myself. >> does not look good. huffing and puffing after getting off the helicopter after having covid, that apparently is presidential in this president's mind. actually wearing a thin piece of fabric over your mouth to protect others is somehow not something he can do. the self-proclaimed war president -- 1400 americans died that day. president-elect biden named members of his health team
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today, xavier beccera and dr. fauci will serve as chief adviser and joining us now is tom freedman. public health experts warned the pandemic worsens because the weather got colder. does it feel in some way darker than the work fierced? we are close to the number of the pandemic of 1918 is just extraordinary. >> you know anderson, listening to your introduction and thinking of the president's behavior. it is like he's telling the country i demand the right not to lead you. what is he fighting for in his election? i demand the right not to lead you. this is possibly one of the greatest leadership challenges
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in moments in our country's history. this is the greatest public health crisis we ever faced. the fact that he won't take charge. the fact that he won't help biden. it is despicable for all the reasons. don't do it for yourself. don't for it for your party or for me but do it for the healthcare workers, the doctors and the nurses manning the frontline in hospitals and clinics and nursing homes. when you don't wear a mask for whatever reasons, what you are doing is you are raising the exposure of yourself and others that are going to put you in a hospital in an emergency room and expose these people. they are already burned out. we know that. do it if not for him or for me or you. do it for the doctors and nurses
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because we are about to enter a two month period. it is going to be excruciating. stop being a pig and do it for them. >> you were talking about children dying from malnutrition or things of antibiotic that costs 25 cents would save their lives but not accessible to their parents. he called it stupid death. that death did not need to occur. many of these deaths do not need to occur. if we had done more myself included. if we had worn masks more and social distance more and done
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more and rally together as a nation which is something we used to be able to do and i don't understand that given all the calamity of why we can't rally as a nation. >> well, that's the saddest thing because big hard things can only be done together. this is the biggest and hardest public health challenge we ever faced. it is a moment that not only cries out for leadership but history so reward leadership. i get it, forget the election and forget the party. right now i have one job is to pull us together. it was never masks or sporting events. masks or restaurants or workers. it is always masks for sporting events and for restaurants. that's the maddening thing is that by wearing a mask do doing
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the smart things would allow the economy back sooner and faster and bigger. it is the unwillingness and the insistence on my right i can be as dumb as i want to be. that move and that attitude has been harming our country for a while. >> biden wrote in the time that he's cautiously optimistic of what he and the administration can accomplish. he also said that he told you that he felt "no moment of elation."
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>> one is the simple fact that we are so lucky that we now have as our president about to take over. a person that's impossible to hate after a four-year of a hate-filled presidency that's so divided the country. biden is impossible to hate. i think that's going to be important. and he's surrounded himself by high-quality people. just wonderful person and these are high quality people. we have seen how destructive the bully-puppet presidency can be when you have a bully in the puppet. when you have someone that's soft spoken and not in your face and who's trying to pull people
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together. i do hope after january 20th, he'll model the right behavior and it will inspire and not everyone but more americans to start doing the right thing. i was so struck in the comments of "the new york times," how many people wrote in and said wow, wow, i forgot what it is like to listen to a president who speaks so thoughtfully and carefully about issues. and does not explain his perfection and dividing the country and cry fake news, just the sobriety of the conversation, people forgot what mo norm ma'am normal is like. >> he thinks the ugliness, he thinks it will disappear when trump is no longer in office. clearly president trump is going to attempt to stay in the headline as much as possible and whatever network he ends up and
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doing whatever he's going to do on. obviously twitter and things like that and maybe he'll start merchandising stuff and make paid speeches to people who admire him. he's going to do everything he can. do you think that he'll be able to maintain the sort of grit he has on so many people or out of office, he'll be like so many people and talk radio. >> we talked about this once before. i pointed out that former secretary of state, joked that how do you know you're out of power in washington is when your limousine is yellow and your driver speaks farsee. what's trump's grit will be? when test out of power. trump understands power. he's terrified that the phone
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calls won't be answered so quickly. maybe the access to fox news won't be so great. the real culprit here and the truly shocking thing beyond his behavior is that at this point in this election and at this point in this pandemic, there are not five or ten republican senators who just said enough, sorry. this election is over. this pandemic has not even begun to crest. i am not participating in this any longer. when you think of people who already go to prison to suffer the worse pain in defense of human rights and these people won't give up their free parking place at national airport to do the right thing? it is so shameful. that's why i hope when this is over that some americans do come up to them on the streets and
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say when it was trump verses the constitution, were you really with trump? what the he'll is that about. >> i appreciate it, thank you. breaking news on just how far the president is going to win no matter what the voter chose. the headline right now trump asked pennsylvania's house speaker for help. josh dawse dawsey shares the by. tell us what you have learned. >> speaker of the house confirmed on tp record that says the president said all these issues with philadelphia and what can we do to fix it. the speaker of pennsylvania said
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he had no power to overturn. the state chose the electoral college vote. this comes after the president called brian kemp, the governor of georgia trying to put pressure there and michigan. so far none of it have seemed to work. >> is that the final response to the president? you said there were two calls. once he says i can't do anything, is there a need for another call? >> i thinew information as i understand. both times the speaker were not and we don't have any power than that. we can't change that. there is been a number of lawmakers who have agreed to sign onto the president's effort. but the speaker of the house as far as is not going along with
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it. it is not nearly enough to make a difference. >> has there been a response of the white house over the reporting? >> the white house did not comment on either one of the calls. the president says he's skipping a lot of christmas party and he's not doing briefings on his schedule and he's spending most of his days trying to stop voter fraud and trieying to stop the n inevitable to happen. >> if that's the hardest he ever
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worked then we are in trouble. >> i am republican and everyon states now and some other tried to -- >> well, the system is working so far. josh dawsey, appreciate it. >> more breaking news on the white house on the subject of the president's desire to go back down to georgia to fight for two republican senators in
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control of the senate, jon ossoff weighs in on the debate. his point perdue, did not show up. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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more breaking news tonight of the president's willingness to subvert the american people
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by staying in office. jim acosta is joining us right now. >> reporter: you have the president saying what he's saying publicly and thinking otherwise privately. the president earlier talking about the score board and saying he's somehow at two wins and zero loss politically. that's not true. we are going from delusional to just laughable in terms of the president's claims about the election. the president understands privately he lost and his advisers understand that. we are learning from our sources that the president's legal team believes that they're basically at the end of their legal challenges and so you know they're facing a calendar at this point. you know next week the electoral college meets, finalizes the counting of the electoral votes
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and finalizes joe biden's election. i asked a source of the white house of all of this, how long will the republican party go along the charade the president is going on. and this spokesperson says "until he leaves office." >> we'll hear from john on osson a moment, how is the president planning to be apart of it? >> we heard he's going to go campaigning on behalf of that battle. that's key. as the president is claiming he won this election and he'll be inaugurated into a second term of office, i have talked to a source earlier this evening of what i am hearing is that is not just lawmakers on capitol hill or urging americans to fight it out, operatives and all these various states and georgia
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encouraging the president to fight it on. he plans to go down there and campaign on behalf of loeffler and perdue. that's why republicans don't want to cross the president. they need him and his base to support and that's almost totally obvious down in the state of georgia. if they don't have the president campaigning there, potentially they lose those two senate seats. jim acosta. warnock facing off with
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loeffler. john on ossoff is joining us. >> it shows tremendous disrespect for georgia voters. here at a moment when we are losing thousands of americans per day, the virus is out of control and congress has not delivered any economic relief for ordinary people and to deal with the surge and to have a ittii sitting senator too afraid of debating these issues of life and death concerns for americans is a daisgrace. >> perdue did show up to trump's rally on saturday. is that an effective strategy? how much do you see this election is a referendum on the presidential results? >> this election is about
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whether or not we'll be able to govern at a moment of crisis. all senator perdue is running on is ensuring joe biden failure. they'll do exactly what they tried to do to president obama. it will be paralysis and gridlock. they'll obstruct the public health response and the broader agenda that we must enact as well and affordable healthcare, paralysis at a moment of crisis is untenable. that's why we have to win. >> do those things square? i am not quite sure i understand his argument. >> what president trump is trying to do to pressure election officials in georgia, to throw out legitimate ballots
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is an attack on black voters in georgia. it is an attack on black voters in georgia. it was the power of black turnout rejecting this president's racism and fear mongering and hateful politics. black voters in georgia standing up because the black community here has been rocked by the pandemic and black businesses in georgia have been hit so hard and they have not gotten any help from six months in washington. >> the objective fact that i believe trump did carry georgia and he went onto say republicans will have to turn out for votes than stacey abrams can steal. it is baseless and newt gingrich is all in on the trump train and makes money from speeches and people who supports the president. maybe that's what's behind him. do you get what's happening to
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the gop? >> here is what's happening. they expected that the apparatus of voter suppression that they krun constructed in georgia, since the 2013 shelby county v. holder. they expected this architecture of voter suppression would allow hem to keep the lid on the pot and suppress black voters enough that they can hold on here. they feel entitled to victory in georgia. the will of the people boiled over. that's what forced perdue and loeffler in the run-off and that's why biden carried the state. if perdue had been in congress, he would have been filibustering the civil rights act. they want to undermine the rights of the people in our democracy. we have to stands up in georgia like we have never done before to claim the seat to the people. it does not belong to david
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perdue. it belongs to us. >> it is hard to get people out. perdue won 80,000 votes than you did in the general election. are you worried without the biden/trump show down that the democratic voters are not enough to turn out? >> i don't worry. here is what's happening in georgia. you got the young jewish son of an immigrant running alongside warnock, we are building for the people. running against of the corruption in washington. there is movement and history? the making. i am asking folks to help us by visiting electjon.com and deliver these two crucial victories. >> jon ossoff, i appreciate your time. >> we continue to ask perdue to
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come on the program but he declined. abby phillips is here with us and gloria berges. >> happy to be here. >> the argument being made by president trump about the elections are completely invented and have no basis. i am not saying that and that's what's being said by judges across the country as they dismiss these cases one by one. there is no track record of any kind of victory on any of these fronts. the president is kind of spinning in the air, i thought it was notable that he's already starting to pass the blame in georgia blaming republicans where he calls rino and brian
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kemp and saying it would be their fault if perdue or loeffler would lose their seats. at the rally over the weekend he spent so much time talking about all of these fantasies of voter fraud and how badly he feels about losing the election and he didn't spend enough time actually urging his supporters to do what they need to do which is to get out and vote. >> gloria, the whole thing is rigged and all the dead people are voting. not that we should expect consistency from president trump or honesty. >> right. >> the democrats are going to steal this election but go out and vote and you know piggy-back on what abby was saying, the message from the president tonight he said he talked about the potential lost of two great senators. it is almost as if he wants to
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blame the republicans running the state of georgia if these senators lose. so he can say it is their faults and not mine. the stakes here are so huge. the president is not talking about that at all. control of the senate and control of the congress. joe biden if he wants to have a robust agenda. he would like a democratic senate. >> the next four years really depend on what happens in this election. it is huge. the president makes it all about h him. he can't seem to make his mind
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because he likes to punish republicans. both from a southern state from the republican president just lo lost. is this basically a sequel to the general election? obviously getting people to vote if it is not in the general election has always been challenging. >> yeah, it is a sequel in some sense but you hit it right on the head. run-offs are difficult to get people to turn out for. it is like mid-term election where it is lower. you don't have the energy at the top of the ticket. it is all about what's your base or whether they are energized enough to come out. so you know this has become so nationalized that if you watch
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the debate on sunday night, you hear the same kind of rhetoric that president trump used against joe biden in the general election playing out in the run-off between loeffler and rafael warnock. it is a sort of micro-causm that's playing out of georgia and you have the dynamics of the suburbs being important of joe biden's victory in that state. democrats are wondering if they can count on that momentum again. it is going to play themselves out in january and we'll see how durable some of this movement towards biden was as we go down the ticket in these lower turn out races that are all about, you know, can you really get your core supporters out to the polls when you need them the most. >> obviously a big step for the
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administration, while president trump is in lala land and biden is building his cabinet. >> i remember recently the president should not be doing that now because the president is not decided. joe biden is doing what he's exactly should be doing. i think with this election, he may have some problems here because you have to waive the rules that says it should be seven years when you retire for the military and conserve as secretary of defense. including democrats saying we did it for mattis but it should not happen again.
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his consequential choice and i think biden may have a bit of a fight but he's building a cabinet that has served. >> gloria and abby. thank you. protesters over the weekend because michigan certified biden's victory over president trump by more than 146,000 votes because that's how many votes he won by. i will talk about what happened and what it means going forward.
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the usual gifts are just not going to cut it.
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we have to find something else. good luck! what does that mean? we are doomed. [laughter] that's it. i figured it out! we're going to give togetherness.
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that sounds dumb. we're going to take all those family moments and package them. hmm. [laughing] that works. president trump is trying to
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press his baseless voter fraud case in pennsylvania. the michigan's secretary of state had a large group of protesters in front of her home. she said that her and her four earlier s four-year-old son just finished put up christmas decorations and that's when demonstrators arrived. >> people shouting "murder." they will not succeed in doing
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so. jocelyn benson is joining me now. >> secretary jensbenbenson, i appreciate you are joining us. this seems so unfair. can you walk us through, you are at home with your child and have this ever happened before? >> not to this extent. we are a quiet residential neighborhood in the city of detroit. there are other families on the same street with children. i was focusing on my little boy and making sure to create an island of calm around him and making sure he's able to c continue on with his evening and be safe and recognizing that while they were targeting me as my role as a state chief election officer. i realized throughout the evening that they were aiming
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their attack at our voters and our democracy. my job is to defend our voters and i will do that everyday in despite of any threats of violence or bullying and my job is to really assure every voter regardless who they voted for. >> the president reaching out to republican legislatures in various states. is there any chance to change things, the courts projected all the arguments they put forward. is there anything else you can do in michigan? >> the results have been certified and the people have spoken and their choice is clear. and so no amount of politically charged legislative hearing or bogus legal filings or any types
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of elements of this really irresponsible pr campaign is going to change the truth. we are calling the citizens to join us defending the voice of the people and democracy to push back on this onslaught of information that's combined with hateful rhetoric that we have seen in the state for months and not just targeting me and our ve voters but affecting officials all across the isle across the state. >> is there something of the climate of michigan that you think the politics in that state is leading to these sorts of incidents or is what the president is doing riling people up and these people are responding in this way. >> i think is all connected. we have seen this amount of attacks in our state all year and perhaps proceeding that and as someone started my career investigating and hate crimes, i see hateful words from leaders
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and positions of power can lead to hateful actions by followers. we have seen that in various ways but not just in michigan but throughout the country. it is unfortunate when it starts affecting our democracy and impacting our voters and prior to november 3rd and now after the case of misinformation. nothing is going to change the results of this election. the voters have spoken. the truths have been certified. the results have been accurate and secure. my job will continue to ensure that truth is known and my expectation that officials across the state will do to same. >> i am sorry for what you are going through. thank you for your team. >> thank you very much. the pandemic ravaged american families. a mother delivered a newborn all
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while under the attack of the disease.
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this country reeling from the onslaught of the pandemic. tonight we want to bring you one such story of a young man. she already had a one year old
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daughter and was pregnant with her son was the pandemic struck. she was admitted to the hospital and had the baby naturally and almost right away was put on a ventilator. she died a few weeks later. her brother lives in los angeles and flew to michigan where his sister had been living. michael, i'm so sorry for your loss. how is your family doing? >> you know, we're all coming together, trying to get through this tragic time, you know. we do have our ups and downs because there is going to be a really big void without my sister here with us anymore. >> tell us about erica. what was she like? >> erica was the most wonderful person you could ever meet. with her, her main concern was other people, you know? for her, other people's happiness was her happiness. and, you know, her goal in life
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was, you know, to cheer people. if you were down, she would -- you know, she would know if you were having a bad day and you will get her phone call just so she could comfort you. >> was she worried about being pregnant during the pandemic? >> she wasn't really worried. but, you know, she did take care of herself. she wouldn't go out. always would wear her mask. anything that she would touch or anything she was about to touch she would clean. just like they say. yeah. you know, she followed every rule in the book and, you know, she still -- she still ended up catching it and it's sad, you know. like you got a lot of people that don't understand what's going on. they all think it's a joke. they all think it's a joke until it happens to them or one of their family members.
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and that's what my sister would want from me, to, you know, help people just like she did. unfortunately this happened to her and, you know, i'm going to keep her name alive. >> i understand she wasn't feeling well. she was having a hard time breathing. what happened next? >> after she wasn't able to breathe, she had just came back from the hospital because she was having contractions. >> so she had gone to the hospital with contractions. and then when she got out she was having trouble breathing? >> yes. so she stayed a weekend at the hospital. and she came home. she called my mom. she called my mom that monday morning. she's like, mom, you know, i think they hurt me at the hospital. it hurts to breathe. you know, it hurts to move. i don't feel good. and she only lasted up until
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wednesday. and wednesday they had to call the ambulance and they came to pick her up. and -- sorry. >> that's okay. >> friday came along and the doctors saw that she wasn't getting any better. at that point, she was already on the second phase of receiving oxygen, which was a small mask. >> right. >> and we got a phone call from her, you know. she looked pretty bad at that time already. and, you know, she was already on that second stage of mask. and i want to say friday midnight the doctors decided to induce her labor because she wasn't getting any better. so they induced her and baby diego was born saturday morning around 1:30 in the morning. and right after that, after she
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gave birth to her son they put her in the tube because her body wasn't retaining oxygen anymore. so after that she wasn't able to meet her newborn baby. >> so she was intubated right after she gave birth? >> yes, sir. >> and did she -- was she able to hold diego? >> from what the nurse told us, they were only able to put him up to her cheek. but, you know, she wasn't really conscious at the time anymore. you know, she just put him toward her cheek. right after that, they intubated her. right after they intubated her, she just started declining. how long did she stay on the
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ventilator? >> she stayed on the ventilator i want to say about 16, 17 days. >> i know your sister also leaves behind a one-year-old daughter named erica named for her mom. >> yes. >> what's -- i mean, what are you doing to tell diego and erica about their mom? >> well, that's up to the dad, what he wants to tell them. but, you know, right now we just got to enjoy them as much as we can and just be there for them. and luckily as much as my sister loved everybody, everybody is, you know, gonna be there for those two babies and they have a lot of love from both sides, from his family, from our family. the first thing they ask is how are the babies? babies, they have nothing but love right now.
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>> michael, my condolences to your family. i appreciate you telling us a little bit about your sister. >> thanks for having -- for letting me have the opportunity to speak with you guys. >> michael, i appreciate it. you take care. >> you too, boss. thank you. >> there is a gofundme page that's been set up for erica's family. it is gofundme.com/f/in loving memory of erica. before we go, we want to update you on a story we read friday about distrust, the covid vaccine around the country according to polling but specifically in alabama where a third of those tested there and the surrounding county tested positive for the virus. yet many, including the mayor, told cnn they didn't trust the vaccine. >> i would love to take the vaccine. >> you yourself are reluctant? >> i am reluctant.
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>> today we received this letter from the mayor which reads in part, the segment did not erase all of the fears the african-american community has of the medical community, but it has opened the door to begin having some much needed conversations. we hope this leads to saving lives not only to covid-19 but saving lives in the future. i want to thank the mayor. the news continues. i want to hand it over to chris for cuomo primetime. >> we got to care. we got to care about one another. we have to care enough to give each other the right information to remove the fear. families like you we're just talking to. that young man with this huge burden now with the loss of his sister, her family left behind, a kid left behind. do we care? do people care? and if we do, where is the proof of that? i mean, these are truly dark days and it is supposed to be the time of year that we look fo