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classes. may they rest in peace and may their memories be a blessing. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." you can follow me on twitter and instagram. "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. out front next, the breaking news. vice president-elect kamala harris just moments ago applauding senator mitch mcconnell for finally adds sure wish it was earlier. a major attack on the u.s. government, focusing instead on conspiracy theories. and also tonight, dr. anthony fauci urging joe biden to get vaccinated by the president-elect not nailing down a date. why? tonight we take you inside trump's right wing bubble where millions of americans are told on a daily basis things are
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completely lies. they're told he could still be the next president. let's go out front. good evening. i'm erin burnett. out front tonight, the breaking news. incoming vice president kamala harris applauding mitch mcconnell for finally acknowledging the next president of the united states. >> i think it's critically important. i applaud mitch mcconnell for talking to joe biden today. you know, it would have been better if it had happened earlier, but it happened. let's move forward. where we can find common purpose and common ground, let's do that. let that be our priority. >> so she's emphasizing the future and moving forward but not standing down on the fact here calling mcconnell out for taking 38 days, 38 days since we've known joe biden won, 38 days it took senator mcconnell to do this. >> the electoral college has
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spoken so today i want to congratulate president-elect joe biden. >> harris could have gone further. mcconnell's fanning of false claims and lies has done damage. today mcconnell is finally abandoning trump. he took it further than he did there on the floor. he told republicans not to challenge the electoral results taking a stand that that's it. the electoral college is it. we're done here with all of this. this as trump himself essentially not showing up to work at least to do his job. there has been nothing coming from the white house as the nation is now facing the most consequential cyber attack in years according to the director of the nsa. russian hackers suspected of infiltrating, okay, russian hackers, months long attack, the department of homeland security, department of treasury, department of commerce,
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department of agriculture, nuclear labs and fortune 500 companies all compromised. the full scope of this attack isn't even known but the president of the united states who took this oath. >> preserve, protect, defend. >> the constitution of the united states. >> the constitution of the united states. >> protect and defend tonight said this about the attack. nothing. the united states the target of a major attack and trump says nothing. instead, this is how he spends his time today, tweeting about the election, repeating his tired and false claims about the election he lost and as for his administration's response to the attack. >> we are taking a hard look on this and obviously take any sort of cyber hacks very seriously. >> well, it's hard to take a hard look when the president of the united states has fired the
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head of the homeland security's cyber security and axed his secretary of defense. in fact, trump has gutted the defense department. trump doesn't have a permanent secretary of defense. he has purged defense advisory boards and put in cory lewandowski and scott owe grady. trump is declaring martial law. we'll talk about this serious national security attack, but this attack is not the only pressing attack he ignored. he was completely absent on a long delayed covid relief package. nothing is done. 12 million americans could see their unemployment benefits expire after christmas. 14 million americans could lose their home. the president is completely absent on the coronavirus itself making no mention of the 302,000 americans who have died from the pandemic. he hasn't been doing the job. well, except for -- except for
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things that he thinks are equivalent priorities to disputing the election, like today team trump rolled backwater saving regulations on shower heads. >> shower heads, you take a shower, the water doesn't come out. you want to wash your hands, the water doesn't come out. so what do you do? you just stand there longer or you take a shower longer? because my hair, i don't know about you, but it has to be perfect. perfect. >> good thing he took care of that problem today. kaitlyn collins is out front live outside the white house. caitlyn, amidst all of this, mitch mcconnell, he took 38 days. you heard kamala harris say, sure, it should have been earlier, we're glad it happen, let's move forward. mcconnell telling his caucus, stop with any further fights here, which is really saying i'm done with you president trump. any reaction from the white house yet? >> reporter: not a word from the president yet, which is telling in and of itself. the white house earlier couldn't
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say if the senate majority leader gave the president a heads up that he was going to make those remarks on the floor as he's done before on other occasions at times when he's contradicted the president, the rare occasions. erin, the white house realizes not that just mcconnell said this, it's the signal he's saying to other republicans, cut this out. they have been enabling and humoring the president on his efforts to try to overturn the election or at least push this public relations campaign and delay the inevitable which is joe biden becoming president. yes, there will always be that core group of house members that have supported the president through thick and thin. this is a message for senate republicans. that is what poses the danger to the president. when you start to have more and more senate republicans coming out on capitol hill saying it's time for the president to give these efforts up and he doesn't have that support, which that support we know he has been desperately seeking. he was the one who instructed one of his republican allies to
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go and get all of the house members to sign onto the amicus brief. so the president is counting and paying attention to who is supporting him in this endeavor. if that starts to change, the question is how does that affect the president himself. i think the other thing that could be even more important that mcconnell did today, which is what was behind closed doors. in that conversation bernie asked them not to join house members. congress is going to ratify joe biden's win. some of them are planning to object, including mo brooks from my home state of alabama. mcconnell is asking them to join them in that effort. so whether or not that actually goes forward is something that the white house is going to be watching. whether or not any of those senate republicans join them. >> all right. caitl caitlyn, thank you. i want to go to two republican former governors. john kasich and christine todd
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whitman. thanks to both. let me start with you, governor whitman. the president spending his time still focused on the election saying he won. not anything else, of course, of these incredibly momentous things happening. he's going to leave. what is his poigain at this poi governor? >> his mentality will not allow him to lose. if he doesn't win, it was stolen. he can never admit a fault to himself. what he is doing right now is just appalling, ignoring his role as president of the united states for, as you said quoting before, protect and defend. it's -- it's -- it's just mind boggling what's happening. he wants to keep that base ginned up. whether he has the discipline or desire to run in 2024, right now he doesn't know.
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he'll keep feeding them. he is undermining our constitution. he is undermining people's faith in what was an extraordinarily well done election given all the problems that we have and now we have enormous issues facing us and he's just burying his head in the sand. it's extraordinary. >> governor kasich, it is extraordinary. what's also extraordinary is that it took senator mcconnell 38 days to do the obvious. kamala harris is doing the gracious thing, we're glad it's done. should have been earlier, let's work together. that's the gracious thing. even hgiraldo, big trump supporter, says it's over. even with giraldo and mcconnell, trump's denial is making 30 republicans hold out. just listen to this, governor kasich. >> you say -- when you say he's president-elect -- yes or no. could you say he's president-elect?
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>> the questioner's manu raju. the nonresponder is gsenator scott. >> he's attending to important issues here. he's working on those shower heads. let's not dismiss that as not being important. how about this guy cramer. here's what he said today, senator cramer. they asked him if biden is president-elect? well, it seems to me that being elected by the electoral college is a threshold where a title like that is probably most appropriate and it's i suppose you could say it's official if there is such a thing as official president-elect or anything else elect. >> torture. >> i tried to go to an interpreter and figure out exactly what that meant. i talked to somebody that understood swahili, they didn't get it. i don't know if you get it. this whole thing, we have to start laughing. it's as serious as my friend kristie whitman says, but it's
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absu absurd. how many of these people are trying to avoid saying this guy won. 38 days it took mcconnell. it's just ridiculous. now the question is with his words that he said today, are we going to get something through? now i was thrilled to hear him say we're not going to leave until we get pandemic relief through. >> yup. >> there are so many people that are hungry, could lose their homes, they've lost their jobs. that was good news for me because that's about people and that's where we ought to be in this holiday season. >> governor whitman, when you talk about what's going to happen here under the biden administration, what they're going to be able to do, you served in the george w. bush administration. trump obviously is not right now doing his job, but president-elect biden is trying to name a cabinet very quickly. we've learned former governor jennifer granholm is going to be energy secretary. that's his pick. for transportation secretary he
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picked pete buttigieg. i wanted to take a moment together. here's a clip. >> i don't think i've ever done this before, but he reminds me of my son beau. and i know that may not mean much to most people, but to me it's the highest compliment i can give any man or woman, and that is that like beau, he has a backbone -- he has a backbone like a ramrod. i really mean this. think about it. >> so, governor, biden wanted to give buttigieg something big. what does that say, transportation secretary, about his priorities going forward here with buttigieg in transportation? >> well, i mean, you've got so many young and enthuse see as stick who wants a legacy, he's managed things and he knows how to organize. you have a guy who wants to get
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things done. you have an organization that have talked about it. there are a lot of shovel ready projects which is to bring the technology from japan to the united states. it's ready to go. it's shovel ready. there are a host of others out there that are shovel ready that this administration sat on. pete buttigieg is not going to let this go by. >> president trump is clipping to a job but the job itself, no. no public events, no questions from the president. nine days on the golf course, zero intelligence briefings that have happened since october 2nd. if he doesn't want to do the job, what does he want, do you think, governor kasich? >> i think christine's right. i think he wants to keep things stirred up.
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he wants to keep that base. let's talk about the base for a second. these are people who live, god bless them, they live in a silo and they get bed out of the silo because you only hear that that you already think and you already agree with. these folks are shopping around where they can hear more of what they want. he's feeding that. hue bhow big is that base? i don't think it's as big as people think. he wants to keep it going. he wants to re-elect the head of the rnc so he can have his fingers way in there. is he going to lose interest? i don't know, erin, i don't think you're going to be in front of mar-a-lago waiting on his every word. i don't think that's going to happen. >> no. >> we have to wait and see so
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new air and understand how we can built american and with other networks coming up. governor whitman, governor kasich, thank you very much. a white house security official, lower leg has been amputated. a family friend set up a go fund me account. why? a republican wants people to know what they've been up to since the election. >> fully embraced nullifying 5 million georgia votes. you might want to remember that come january 5th. and what governor kasich is talking about. a world fwild lies since trump lost the election. tell me why. >> it's not over.
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>> cnn learning vice president mike pence is likely to get vaccinated by friday and will do it on camera. kayleigh mcenany said trump is open to the virus. he's expressed lots of skepticism of vaccines over the years. we have two guests out front. dr. reinner, you got the vaccine today. we have a picture. biden's team plans to make an announcement when he will receive the vaccine. fauci wants him fully protected by inauguration. that's 36 days away. he has time. but why do you think they haven't committed to a date yet? you said do it the night it's
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approved. >> i did say that. it will actually probably take him like four weeks, about a week after the boost which is given at three weeks. that takes us up to the inauguration. he doesn't want the appearance that he's jumping the line. what the numbers say is over 300,000 americans have been killed and the group at greatest risk are those who are older americans and he's 78 years old. to it's a grave threat to him. the bigger benefit to vaccinating the incoming administration is to show unanimity in the safety and efficacy of the vac seebs. unlike the spring when the outgoing president doubted the effectiveness of masks, this will go a long way to show the country that these vaccines are necessary to put this virus
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down. necessary and safe. i'm sure he'll do it sometime this week. >> dr. thomas, kayleigh mca na any wouldn't say whether he would get the vaccine. she points out he had the virus less than three months ago, there's a reason maybe he wouldn't get it. it's a question a lot of people will ask if they've had the virus. do they still need the vaccine? what's your answer to that, doctor? >> first off, erin, thank you very much for having me back. i do believe people who have had a previous natural covid infection should seriously consider getting vaccinated. i feel this way for a couple of reasons. the first is that in both the pfizer and the moderna trials, they demonstrated that the vaccine was safe and effective, even in people who had been
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previously infected. the second thing i would say is we really don't understand the immune response that occurs after a natural infection and we don't understand how long it may or may not protect them. the third thing i would say is fortunately this does not seem to be occurring often but we know people can get reinfected. for those reasons, i would propose that people who have been previously infected should strongly consider getting vaccinated. >> which is a point of national security. that's not your purview. trump and biden should be vaccinated as soon as possible as the commander in chief and the incould amming commander in chief. you mentioned moderna. the technology that you use and they use, the same. they're close to being authorized. i'm sure they have data that could prevent infection, not just prevent people from getting
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sick. this may seem like a tight distinction to make to a lot of people but it could be a significant distinction, we don't know. did you understand the pfizer vaccine could do that? >> this is an important concept. they can be infectious to other people and transmit to other people. moderna did offer some data. i would say i think the dataset is currently incomplete. the way the pfizer trial was done, we have the swabs and we can check the blood samples. my guess is they are doing this analysis. i do believe that it is highly
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plausible that a vaccine can induce a response that the amount of vaccine will be below the threshold to make people infectious. i'm very encouraged. >> the data is there, it needs to be analyzed by pfizer. tens of thousands of people in the study. if the data is there, we'll get the analysis. doctor, let me ask you today about the white house security director. she fell ill with the coronavirus for months. here's what she said when asked about it. >> our heart goes out to his family. they've asked for privacy and he is recovering from what i understand. we're very pleased to see that, but he and his family will be in our plans. >> has the president had a chance to speak with him? >> i'm not sure if the president
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has had a conversation with him nor would i confirm any private conversation they had. >> the family is facing staggering medical bills. the white house with those outbreaks. president trump has never mentioned anything about this, any kind of comment. she won't say whether she's spoken to the security chief. what do you make of that? >> it suggests a remarkable lack of empathy. if one of my team members was sick, i would be with them constantly on the phone, in person if i could. this is somebody who ran a large operation at the white house and has suffered really massively as a cons questi a consequence of this virus. imagine if he tweeted my team
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member is sick, here's his go fund me account, reach out to him. imagine what that would do for the family. it's not too late to do that. do that, mr. president. that would be a good thing. >> i'll leave you with a picture of dr. reiner. there you go. i know 21 days you'll get the second, but the minute you were allowed to get it, you got it, as all-americans should when their number comes up. thank you both so very much. i appreciate seeing you. now to the covid relief bill that millions of americans are talking about. mitch mcconnell says we're staying until it's done. the clock runs out december 26th. out front, senator maggie hasan. i appreciate your time. i was talking to a couple folks today who have been as part of this, right, these negotiations. the thought is this is real.
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this might really happen. there have been other optimistic times that this has fallen through, this is not that one. do you have that feeling? >> thanks for having me on, erin. we are hearing from our constituents, people in new hampshire, all of us are hearing from americans all across the country about the need for a relief package now, whether you're an individual trying to figure out how you're going to pay your rent or put food on the table. whether you're a small business owner, restaurant owner and you know you won't be able to have outdoor seating in the cold winter months. whether you are running a hospital, nursing home, whether you're an educator trying to figure out how to keep the schools safe from your students, whether you're a state or local government trying to figure out if firefighters can stay on the job. this group has worked hard.
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>> so there is a package, right? it's about $750 billion. >> right. >> you mentioned aid to things like the firefighters. my understanding is any funding for state and local governments as well as the liability protections were separate in a bill. >> that's right. >> does one come with the other? are you willing to get the first bill out the door that would help the restaurant owners and other americans regardless of what happens to state and local aid? >> well, that was the idea of putting forward these two packages from the bipartisan group. there is complete agreement among all of us on the $750 billion package that would provide immediate relief including that critical extension of unemployment benefits for people now. i am continuing to urge senate majority leader mcconnell to delink the aid to state and localities from the liability protections which are complex and we still have some questions about, but to the extent that
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the senate majority leader is going to insist that those two go together, we think it's important to get the first package out as soon as possible. >> senator mcconnell is going to keep session in session. he has until the 26th. your group is completely on the same page about the $750 billion package. will there be a deal on that tomorrow? >> i tonight know about the precise timing. i do know what we were able to do was give a pre-negotiated big package to our leadership and say, here are things that this bipartisan group from around the country can agree on. we gave them text. we hope there is a deal. >> i appreciate your time. thank you very much. >> thank you. take care, be safe. next, president trump taking his feud with republican leaders to a new level. now suggesting some should be put in jail, jail for refusing
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tonight president-elect biden in georgia. saying voters need to remember the efforts to overturn the election results. >> they fully embraced nullifying nearly 5 million georgia votes. you might want to remember that come january 5th. >> interesting, of course, since the leadership of the state, the republicans have stood up to that. obviously plenty of others have not. biden urging the nation to, quote, shock the nation. he's counting on a key number of voters. ku kyung lah is out front. >> we did it one time, we going to do it again. >> reporter: call it shout out the vote in the neighborhoods of
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columbus, georgia. >> your vote counted. >> reporter: la tasha brown of black voters matter and a caravan of buses weave through the cities. >> we going through the neighborhood. >> reporter: as early voting kicks off for the state's two senate seats in the january 5th runoffs. >> the job is not finished. got to do it again. we got to do it again. there is no path for the democratic party to flip these two seats without the acknowledgment, not just the acknowledgment, but the impact and work of black voters. >> reporter: la tasha brown and stacey abrams harnessed years of their grassroots work. >> we need those seats in georgia. stay in georgia, y'all. >> in the 2020 election, nearly 30% of voters were black with the majority of them voting for democrats helping flip georgia blue in november. two democratic senate challengers are counting on that
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turnout to beat the incumbent republicans in january. >> we've got to vote. >> reporter: at stake, control of the u.s. senate. why president-elect joe biden is campaigning in georgia. historically democrats have not shown up to the polls in runoffs. the earliest of georgia's early voters say it's different this time. before sunrise as rain fell, we met kenya debar rows to vote. >> it's snow flurrying now. >> reporter: but you haven't left. >> no. this election is too important. >> reporter: also in the pre-dawn line, republican david coombs. >> we never give up. we always vote this way. >> reporter: as the day goes on and the line grows, republicans say they believe president trump's baseless attacks on the election. >> our votes should mean something. they don't mean anything now. >> reporter: but they still voted. >> just voted, early voted and
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we're thrilled to vote. >> reporter: the republican voters we meet are listening to this call. >> i want you to vote early, right? vote early. this is republican senator david perdue's bus tour as he meets supporters they tell us -- >> do you think at this point you can say joe biden is the president, that he won? >> no. >> reporter: why not? >> because i still believe we won. >> reporter: even as reality closes in. >> i don't think it's going to impact the republicans. the republicans going to get out. >> reporter: republicans say georgia is red democrats running a race to prove the road ahead is blue. >> let's do it again. >> reporter: now among the biggest changes in the runoffs as compared to the general election, the number of voting locations. in cobb county, for example, where we were talking to the early voters, in the general election there were 11 early
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vote locations. in the runoffs, that's been reduced to five. after complaints led by the naacp, the county agreed to add two voting locations, erin, only for the third week of early vote. >> thank you very much. now let's go to dan johnson. erick erickson, conservative talk radio host and long time georgia resident. thank you both. mayor johnson, nearly 30% of georgia voters in the election were black. the majority voted for biden. that was a presidential election. do you believe from what you're seeing right now in these first days of early voting that you're going to see the same turnout for the senate runoff? >> thanks for the opportunity. to be very clear, this is 2020. it's a new game. it's a new dawn. the fact is, people recognize the significance of this moment that we're in right now. this is an opportunity not only
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to change the landscape in georgia, change the landscape for the united states. i think people are very, very cognizant of the role they're playing in this by just getting out to vote. >> eric, you heard some republicans talking to kyung lah. they said president trump won the election. they believe his false attacks on the election's integrity. they are voting in the senate runoffs anyway. they are voting. but when you look at trump's attacks and how they may be working, 16% of republican voters now say they're less likely to vote in the presidential election. only 6% of democrats said that according to a new fox news poll. are you worried that this could depress republican turnout? >> yeah. listen, it doesn't help when the president of the united states comes out and says the governor of georgia and the secretary of state need to be rounded up and arrested. it's a very mixed message. republicans went to the
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mailboxes, myself included, we all got mail pieces with the vice president on it saying go vote early. here's the website, not the president's face on the mail piece, the vice president. he comes back to georgia tomorrow to campaign but clearly there's a real mixed message for republicans. they say, i'm not slow thing and they're going to steal it again. >> pretty mixed message when you are saying the governor and secretary of state should be going to jail when you are republican president. biden went to atlanta today. he waited for the formal result came out and he went there in person. then he made the case, because he said to get his agenda done. here's what he said. >> i need two senators from this state, i want to get something done, not two senators who are
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just going to get in the way. send me these two men and we will control the senate and we will change the lives of people in georgia. >> so, you know, i know he mentioned georgia there, mayor. he's rationalizing it. some people say that could be difficult, when you are doing a local election it needs to be themfully worried. we recognize this is organizations. senators who are going to be around and visit georgia, understand the need of georgians, work for health care for georgians, make sure georgians have the money they need to survive every day, although there are national implications. we have tomorrow focus on the
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buildings responsive to us. >> eric, let's go back to the jail thing, okay? republicans, right, they want to be unified ahead of the runoff elections, right? it's impossible to be when president trump has a feud with georgia governor brian kemp. what is your reaction? >> there's rumor related to the picture that they're in the bay of china. trying to bring chinese businesses here and trying to bring businesses here if the democrats wen. there are a lot of people who are trump voters, not republican voters. those people may stay home. republicans will have libertarian voters who voted in
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the general and may come back for david perdue. they're very second amendment focused. if you go outside the atlanta heir yeah, it's all about guns and inside is a muddy message when your guys say they stole the election. >> mayor, i was talking to a state senator from georgia. he's talking about biden won and a lot of down ballots were split. do you think you could see that at the polls now? you know what, maybe i like joe biden but i don't want him to have all of this power in the senate. >> well, i think that's absolutely true. i think that is why all of the ground efforts that you highlighted earlier is so important. we have to stay on message. we have to continue to talk about records. we have to continue to set the
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narrative about why democratic candidates are better than republicans on the polls. it is about who is going to serve us best locally. then the national politics will take care of itself. >> thank you both very much as always. appreciate your time. next up former cia director is john brennan. how worried is he? russian hackers attacked. most consequential attack we've seen. inside the far right world. they've told the president and some of his supporters is not his. the election is not over. akes w. (doorbell rings) thank you. can we be besties, simone biles? i guess?
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tonight u.s. officials investigating what an official tells "the new york times" is the most consequential hack in u.s. history into the top echelons of the united states. department of homeland security, department of agriculture, department of treasury, department of commerce, u.s. postal service may be impacted, fortune 500 companies and nuclear facilities. source telling cnn, quote, there will no doubt be more targets. out front, author of america's enemies at home and abroad. director brennan, it has been 48 hours since we learned about the
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attack. we still don't know, agency after agency, fortune 500 companies, telecom companies, nuclear facilities. and the most consequential in history says an official from the nsa to the "new york times." how big do you think this could be? >> well, the scope and duration of make it the most damaging in u.s. cyber history. it is a very specific attack and reports indicated that it was carried out by the russian spr. they are one of the most sophisticated cyber actor worldwide. how do you penetrate systems and extract the information? what they did was they put malware into the commercial software updates that are automatically sent out to all the clients in the government and outside. that malware sat within the systems and networks and extract
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information and not through known russian's ip addresses, again according to the press report, u.s. ip addresses that were not identified as being possible conveyer of this information that was going out of the schystem. the fact that so many industries affected and going on so long, the russians appeared to be able to pull this information out makes it very, very worrisome. >> when you think of nuclear military facilities, what's your -- i mean that sounds fearsome. >> yes, these are unclassified system of network. that does not mean they don't carry a lot of sensitive information at these departments and agencies. what i am sure the russians were doing were looking at information that may give them insights of vulnerabilities of infrastructure and take out information that's going to give
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them insights into what the united states is planning to do overseas and what our vulnerabilities are at home. this is what intelligence services tried to do in the digital environment, right in backbone of the internet. they were able to extract this information, getting the past the sensor that was put in place by the u.s. government in the last decade. we have sophisticated sensors. our sensors need to be updated in order to take into account of these sfis adequaophisticated a. >> i know officials are trying to determine who was behind the attack obviously, all leading to the russians as you have referenced. the secretary of state mike pompeo suggests russia was
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involved. he'll go that far but the president did not say anything about the attack or any outrage about it. what do you think booinehind hi silence? >> he's not filling the role of commander-in-chief and trying to keep this country safe and secure. this has been going on for months. what does he continue to tweet about? it is very unfortunate. i am hoping the professionals are continuing to focus on this because this is potentially very damaging. >> director brennan, i appreciate your time as always. thank you, sir. >> we'll show you where trump's supporters are headed to escape what's really happening. >> our president is in the fight of his life. troducing fidelity income planning. we look at what you've saved,
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what does that mean? we are doomed. [ laughter ] that's it... i figured it out! we're going to give togetherness. that sounds dumb. we're going to take all those family moments and package them. hmm. [ laughing ] that works. news maxes rating topping
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five businesses and even fox news at one point, all by pretending that president trump still may remain president trump in january. brian stelter is out front. >> our president is in the fight of his life. >> reporter: now that the electoral college has affirmed joe biden's victory. some right wing shows and sights don't know what to do. this banner on news max asking is it time to move on? while attorney alan dershowitz is saying yes. >> the election will be confirmed. >> reporter: some far right outlet is peddling false hopes. one america's news a channel promoted by president trump running segments like this. election manipulation is a long-term goal of the left and airi airing highlights from protrump rally in d.c. to boost the trump
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spirit. with fox news mostly accepting trump's time is up. >> joe biden is the next president of the united states. >> reporter: some trump's defenders are flipping over to oam and max. >> do you accept that trump lost georgia? >> no. >> where do you get your news information? >> news max because we don't trust fox news. news max refers to biden as the president elect. >> reporter: other protrumpers turning against anyone who gives biden legitimacy. >> i want to congratulate president-elect biden. >> reporter: fox latched out on mitch mcconnell on tuesday, thanks for nothing, mitch, calling for refresh thinking new
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blood. >> this is strictly about getting rid of donald trump. there is not an entity in the american deep state, washington established whatever, that does not want to get rid of donald trump including enough justices on the supreme court. >> reporter: there is supply for these lies because there is demand for these lies. demand is not going away even they said that it should. >> he's counter acted on news max, he thinks trump may be inaugurated again next month. these programs have far few
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fewer ratings than cnn. news max is small but it is g w growing inci size. there is only one word describing what's happening here and that's radicalization. >> it is disturbing. thank you very much brian, i appreciate your time. i appreciate all of you and anderson is now. good evening, joe biden is the president elect. the president may not want to hear it today. maybe he'll accept that two men he admires finally came out and said so, vladimir putin and and herrero says it is over. >> the electoral college has spoken. so today i want to congratulate president-elect biden. the president-elect is no stranger to the senate. he devoted