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and thank you for joining us. brianna keilar picks up our coverage right now. i want to welcome our viewers here in the united states and around the world. we begin with a nation in anguish. the coronavirus pandemic worsening, more than 3,000 americans reported dead yesterday, the third deadliest day since the pandemic gang. and more than 112,000 are so sick with covid that they were admitted to the hospital. another daunting record there. all nearly a week from the christmas holiday. the suffering of so many americans making the race to authorize a second coronavirus vaccine all the more urgent. an fda commit the city is meeting tomorrow to consider the moderna candidate. and once authorized, it could add tens of millions of doses to
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the u.s. distribution. >> we're looking at about a 95% efficacy on this vaccine. 100% at preventing severe illness. it works across the age spectrum from the 18 to 35-year-olds all the way into the elderly. and again, side effects are very mild. >> but we begin with news that americans have been waiting so desperately to hear. >> we made major head way toward hammering out a targeted pandemic relief package that would be able to pass both chambers with bipartisan majorities. we committed to continuing these urgent discussions until we have an agreement. and we agreed we will not leave town until we've made law. >> so what is this in package? it has $900 billion as the price tag which is twice the amount the republicans proposed and a fraction of what democrats wanted. it is expected to include a new
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round of stimulus checks and vaccine distribution money. it could also include extensions of jobless benefits, eviction moratoriums and deferment of student loan payments. the deal will drop state and local aid as well as lawsuit protections. i want to bring in kevin hassett and katherine rampel. you know would you have heard this more than once. so i wonder how likely you think it is that this deal is actually going to pass. >> i called around to my friends at the white house this morning and i think that everybody expects that the deal is just about done. the one thing that i would add is that there will be some to what you said, that there will also be some small business relief in the package, it will be about $900 billion. and they might make an announcement today is what i'm hearing. and the additions really that got it over the finish line, it was kind of interesting to me just sort of politically that
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president trump and aoc wanted checks to people to be part of the deal too and that wasn't originally in there. and i think that the relief checks will be part of the deal as well. and that is what closed the deal is what i'm hearing. >> that is very interesting. and katherine, in your latest article, you write that there are two main arguments for congress to provide this generous immediate fiscal relief. so what are they that clearly you had some buy-in there from very different bedfellows? >> i think the two main arguments are humanitarian growth oriented. humanitarian, basically people are suffering. there is a threat of a major cliff at the end of the year right after christmas that something around 7 to 12 million people might lose unemployment benefits, people will face eviction, they are also facing hundredor, either either. it is the humanitarian argument. the other argument is it may
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umg ultimately cost less in the long run to have a big massive stimulus package now to prevent the sorts of permanent damage to the k country's r0e du productive cap people having a tough time finding job, businesses that will be closing permanently. so i think you have to think about both. one is about helping people, the other is about again preserving the productive capacity of the country so that over the long run we can recover more quickly when there is widespread distribution of the vaccine, we can flip the switch back on to the extent possible and get people back into jobs because there will still be jobs for them to have. >> kevin, you have said that we're about to have a crater made. so tell us what you mean by that. >> i think that, you know, you went into the covid case data,
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the very troubling covid case data, and the point is that right now people are beginning to shut down again all around the country because covid cases are so high, hospitals are filling up. and mortality is soaring. and with a vaccine right around the corner, it makes especially good sense for everybody to just hunker down and wait until you are are vaccinated to go back outside. and so people will start doing that. and i expect that if you look at first quarter gdp, it will probably be about the second worst quarter in history, almost as bad as the second quarter from last year. and so what this stimulus bill does hopefully, we haven't seen the final details, it builds a bridge to say march when hopefully 150 million or so americans will be vaccinate and we can start to get going again. and at that point, i expect that there will be another stimulus deal and i think mitch mcconnell said as much. but right now, we're looking at the first quarter that will be negative, it will be big and negative because people are
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rationally responding both to the fact that the light is at the end of the tunnel, so if you are more cautious for the next month, there is a huge benefit to that. and the fact that governments are also calling for more shutdowns right now. so there absolutely will be a big negative shock in the first quarter and that is i think why everybody understands that we need to have the stimulus right now. >> so katherine, is 900 billion enough to get americans through that? >> i hope so. look, if i had my druther, i probably would have designed this stimulus bill a little bit differently. but you know, i don't get to wave the magic wand. i think getting aid out as quickly as possible as target the as possible will do -- will go a long way to preventing the kind of double dip that kevin was just talking about. but there will probably need to
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be the another bite of the apple whether in march or even sooner because the scale of the damage is just so vast. and again, the threat of people hunkering down and more layoffs coming also because state and local governments are basically broke, t defund the police will probably be an unavoidable reality as well as defund the teachers and emts, either either. so i think that more stimulus will be required. >> and i can just add, two things that aren't in there, state and local aid and liability protections are high priorities for everybody in the senate. they just disagree with the details. so that is why there will be another bill next year almost for sure. >> all right, kevin, katherine, thank you. frontline health care workers across the nation are continuing to get vaccinated today. adrienne broaddus is in illinois. i know that you are still
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waiting on the doses to arrive there. how soon can the vaccine be distributed once it gets there? >> the very next day. that is what i'm told here. and even with the rollout of the vaccine, health care workers here are stressing the importance of taking care of each other. doctors here say that they will receive 16,000 doses of the vaccine, and a member on staff told me that they are on track to receive that shipment tomorrow. first in line, health care workers who come in direct contact with covid-19 patients. and among the eligible employees here, 400 have already registered to receive the vaccine. a short time ago i spoke with a doctor and he says he can't believe how quickly everything has come together. >> you had to ask me a year ago whether we'd be at this point with the vaccine this quickly, i would have said no way. and i think right now for all of us, it is a period of yes, we're doing a lot of work, but we're really excited about doing it.
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and so this probably has been the most exciting thing for myself and a lot of our team here in the past year. >> after months of treating covid-19 patients, this shot in the arm is a sign of hope. think about it, we hear from the governor, chicago's mayor, and other top health officials, they deliver those covid-19 updates. and those updates they tell us about the number of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths. never have i seen them smile during one of those meetings. i saw them smile for the first time yesterday after the first shot was administered. >> such a good point. we're hearing that from medical professionals all over the country who after months and months have finally getting this important ray of hope. thank you so much for that report from illinois. just in, we have new cnn reporting on the effort that is ramping up behind the scenes to lobby president trump for pardons.
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the president is starting to sound like white noise at this point, still saying that he won the election after it has been confirmed dozens of times that he lost. but the white house press secretary app live didn't get the memo that the election is a long foregone conclusion. >> he won't get ahead of that activity actually happening, but he has taken all statute takory
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requirements necessary to either ensure a smooth transition or continue igs ation of power. >> spoiler alert, there is no continuation of power. she is lying. but his sick company fantss akc going off the cliff with him. >> challenging election results as we await today's electoral college decision. and intel source telling me that president trump did in fact win the election. >> the trump administration's top intel official for election said that the 2020 election was the most secure in u.s. history. the president fired chris krebs for giving that assessment. and bill barr said that there was no widespread voter fraud that would have changed the outcome of the election for donald trump. he of course resigned monday under threat of being fired by trump. but bartiromo with a straight face quotes an intel source.
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so who is her source in it is not one that fox has stood behind in any other report proving that hosts there can just spout conspiracy theories and still cash the check. another case in point -- >> if the house or senate cannot agree on which electors to accept, and untested constitutional procedure could result in each state being given one vote which themy would allocate to either biden or trump. and since the republicans hold 26 of 50 state house, there would exist the mathematical possibility that president trump could be named the constitutionally elected president. >> it is like lou dobbs is matt damon at the chalk board but without the facts or even ben of a flek faffleck for that matter.
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there is in no scenario in which a majority of the senate will reject any biden electors. and if there was a disagreement with both clahambechambers, thef electors sign the by the governor of the state is controlling. so a disagreement is not enough. third, the preer to whiocedure t in the 12th aemendment and it i not untested. it was used to resolve the 1824 election. fourth, the 12th aemmendment on comes in to play in no candidate has a majority of electoral votes. which makes them mute. how about them apples, mr. date of births? but on news max, it is much of the same. >> yes, january 20th, i do believe that there is a significant chance that donald trump could be inaugurated. now, i do know that there are smart informed people who are saying that, be huh-uh, joe biden is the president-elect.
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i disagree with them and it is not just a hunch that i'm going on. it is the constitution. >> now, he just said that he disagrees with smart and informed people. his words. perhaps those people are smart and informed because they actually read the constitution and he should try it. i do want to bring in now flor i can't gloria borger. here we are six weeks after the laeksz and t election and the individual still in denial. what is their angle here? >> well, they will remain in denial. i don't think that there any doubt about it. i think that joe biden will put his hand 00 o. that bible on january 20th. and they will still remain in denial. they are seeding the soil for 2024 and for the years intervening to say that joe biden is an illegitimate president.
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so they are playing this game right now and the sad part about it is that we know that it is not the truth. and instead of telling people who support donald trump out there, really like his policies absd wanted to s and wanted to see him reelected, what the truth is, they are promise you wiulgating these lit is really unfortunate. and shame on them. sorry, just shame on them. >> yeah, that is the everyone sadder part, right, that they know that they are lies that they are promulgating. and mitch mcconnell finally acknowledged that joe biden won in the 2020 presidential race. he did that yesterday. and the president responsibilitied, which is not surprising, with a critical tweet saying that it was too soon for republicans to give up. so the question is, which side do republicans take do you think. >> i think it depends on who you are. i think that you are one of those 126 house members who signed on to that ridiculous
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lawsuit that the united states supreme court dismissed out of hand, you are probably going to take donald trump's side. if you are mitch mcconnell who said in a phone call to his members according to manu raju, you know, you really shouldn't do this because you will set up some votes that could be troubling for you because it might appear like you are disagreeing with donald trump if it comes to a vote in the senate, you have to vote to say, you know that this election was fair and legal, then that could be a problem. but josh hawley this morning came out and said, you know, i haven't really decided what to do. so is he a potential 2024 candidate? i think so. it is pretty obvious. so if you are a 2024 candidate and donald trump did have 74 billion societvotes, maybe you hang back a little. it is all about politics. it has nothing to do with the constitution, nothing to do with the law. it has nothing to do with this
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election, which was free and which was fair. >> and just in, our colleague kaitlan collins is reporting that attorney general barr, who is leaving his job next week, actually attended today's cabinet meeting, this according to a white house official. i wonder what you think bill barr's reception was like. >> well, bill barr wanted to make a clean getaway. he knows these pardons are coming up. we may disagree with a lot of them. he may disagree where what some of the things donald trump wants to do in his last 40 odd days in office. and i'm sure he was applauded there. the question that i have is does this turn out to be kind of the dare leader cabinet members we've seen and because it is private, we don't know until people talk about it, because all the cabinet meetings have been that way. and i would think it might be the same because this is probably the last cabinet
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meeting donald trump will have as president of the united states. >> that's right. gloria borger, thank you so much. and next, fox news will question the pandemic expertise of paint expert bill gates. we'll roll the tape on that. plus hundreds reportedly bailing on secretary of state mike pompeo's controversial holiday party which was feared to be a superspreader event. and see whatt happened when joe biden introduced pete buttigieg as a cabinet pick. ♪
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over on planet fox which loyally orbits planet trump, there is a new villain of the day. and it is bill gates. the target on his back was born of this interview with jake tapper here on cnn. >> bars and restaurants in most of the country will be closed as we go into this wave. and i think sadly that is appropriate. depending on how severe it is, the decision about schools is much more complicated because they are the benefits are the
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pretty high, the amount of transmission is not the same as in restaurants and bars. so, you know, tradeoffs will have to be made. but the next four to six months really call on us to do our best because we concede that this will end. >> during the largest surge of a deadly pandemic, this is the inconvenient truth even with a flailing economy. just ask the cdc. in september, it explained that adults who tested positive for coronavirus were about device as likely to have reported dining at a restaurant than those who tested negative. but for fox's sunrise trio who criticize temporarily closing bars and restaurants despite the human cost of keeping them open when 3,000 americans were reported dead of covid per day, here is how they responded to that warning from bill gates as they broadcast from the coronavirus safe confines of
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their home studios. >> what sacrifice is he make something. >> none. >> he is still one of the richest people in the world because he actively engages in ways of staying in the top tier of rich people in the world. his wealth gets to grow expo indiana shally while small business owners, maybe follow,s who scraped, sacrificed, finally opened the business of their dreams. and he says it is a sacrifice we have to make. bill gates is a globalist. >> spoken most of that like a true liberal. and there was no way that the troo he owe w trio was going to let it stand. >> he worked hard to make that money. >> he worked hard, but the person who will come and pick up the garbage outside my house today, they work hard. >> perhaps there is common ground between for example and aoc since that is the crux of the liberal argument in the wealth gap debate. but back to coronavirus restrictions. people are losing their livelihoods. kids are out of school, they are
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isolated, millions and millions of americans are hungry. so yes, there is a will legitim had. why are schools closed and restaurants open? can restaurants and businesses improve conditions so that they can promote safer experience? should the government keep them of a philosophy afloat if they can't? but fox and fox republicans paint any restriction of a government's seizure of your freedoms and now they are attacking a billionaire whose wealth they normally champion, whose foundation is dough ghating nearly $2 million to vaccines to poor countries. gate has also donated billions over the years to focus on, what, global pandemics. but don't tell that to planet fox's doctor for hire. >> by the way, tucker, if you
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had me on, that network -- that network has on a computer expert to talk about covid instead of a physician? imagine if you had me on to talk about commuputers. you wouldn't do that. you have me on to talk about covid-19. >> and that is rich coming from celebrity doctor of internal medicine, not to be confused request epidemiology. true he isn't exactly the geek squad member you want mixing your laptop, but is he really the h.m.d. that you want at you bedside. >> this virus should be compared to the flu because at worst, at worst, it could be the flu. regarding this fall, the 1918 second wave, i've been monitoring australia. it predicts that we won't have a big second wave. i'm 70 and almost impossible that you will die from covid. and yet fear messaging
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continues. >> every person, woman, man, camera tv, they say that is amazing. >> i spent an hour with the president. that is not a cognitive example, but at least it was in person. and i got the impression of somebody who is very cognitively advanced. >> now, this fox doc also likes to wildly speculate on the conditions of others despite his own advice. >> to speaker pelosi who is not a physician, i wish that he would stop pontificating on the president's health given that she hasn't seen his chart. >> so even though the doc hasn't seen joe biden's charts by his owned a migs admissioed a admis. >> i haven't examined the former vice president. i don't have a clinical diagnosis to make. >> but that is not stopping him from casually diagnosing biden on national tv as being on drugs and maybe having silent strokes
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because he had an aneurysm 30 years ago. >> i want to put foforth some i. they are not proof, not even theories. president trump says that we should have drug testing before debates. and i'm thinking why would he be saying that? well, let me tell you one reason, there is a study that shows that for people who have mild cognitive thinking or memory problem, you know what helps? speed. you know what helps? ed a adderall. >> and now he is bothered about bill gates as an expert on pandemics. perhaps the good doctor needs to have his ears cleaned because bill gates has been sounding the alarm on pandemics for decades in held journals, on television, in lectures like this one that he gave more than five years ago. >> today the greatest risk of global catastrophe doesn't look
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like this. instead, it looks like this. if anything kills over 10 million people in the next few decades, it is most likely to be a highly infectious virus rather than a war. not missiles, but microbes. >> but if the fox doc doesn't think that bill gates is an expert on pandemics, let's check out the experts that fox looks to for discussions about coronavirus. >> i went through the cdc, i kept hearing about new infections. but i was like why aren't they talking about this? because the number is almost nothing. >> why not name the vaccine the trump. you know, make it like have you gotten your trump yet? >> lock down bun wn buwns and m are probably slowing the onset oig of herd immunity. >> somebody deliberately spreading this things here. does not make sense. >> fact of the matter is, we
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have people dying 45,000 people a year dying from automobile accidents, 480,000 from cigarettes, 360,000 a year from swimming pools, but we don't shut the country down. >> the pandemic is not spiraling out of the control as they projected, it is the worst since 1918 losing one life is way too many, the situation is getting better, not worse. >> you can take your mask mandate and shove it right up your ass. >> now we're reading stuff about how you can damage yourself by wearing a mask because then you're breathing back, you know, potentially microbes -- >> this is why you won't wear a mask. you don't want to look funny. >> we now know thanks to blood testing that the virus is not that deadly. >> the thing in new york was you had very low income people in very tight quarters that are touching a lot of handles and doorknobs. >> speaking of doorknobs, that is exactly what he and his pals
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are on the doors that swing open every day to an alternate reality known as planet fox. and next i'll be speaking to a nurse who is threatening to strike at a california hospital over the conditions there during this pandemic. and neighbors of mar-a-lago telling the president don't live here permanently, but do they have a case.
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. the strain on some california medical workers is going to the picket line. nearly 2500 nurses in southern california say that they will strike christmas eve through january 3 and they say it is because of poor work conditions and in-efficient planning during the pandemic. this is a strike that will impact these three hospitals right here. and the nurses there say that they have now declared, quote, an internal disaster -- pardon me, the hospital has and will limit their services in order to ensure there are enough nurses to care for patients with the highest needs. i want to talk now with rapid response nurse erin mcintosh who works at riverside community hospital and is a bargaining team member. this is serious business striking during a pandemic. so tell us what are your
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demands, what has brought you and these thousands of nurses to this point? >> so our demands are simply safety, accountability and staffing. our issues that we tant to make it clear that our issues existed long before the pandemic hit. we estimate that last year in april, we were 340 nurses short. and the pandemic has just exacerbated those issues. >> so i just wants to be clear, you are not asking for money here? >> our demands are mostly safety and accountability, yes, that's correct. i know that hca comes across they just want to offer us hormone. but our community we feel deserves better. >> so money is part of the demand, but that is not enough, is that what you're saying? >> honestly speaking, i don't think that any amount of money is -- values what the nurses
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have been put through. but we're not asking for money. what we really want is safety and account ability. >> so we know that some of your complaints have to do with not enough testing, unsanitary conditions, and a lack of protection for nurses. so let's go through that. testing, how often are you getting tested, how often are nurses being tested? >> durpts lcurrently right now, being tested if we need to. i'm not sure where you received that information. most of our issues are strictly about unsafe staffing. due to governor newsom's waiver which allowed nurses to take on more than they safely good, the hospital was given a pass. what it means is that the hospital doesn't have to respond to any fines and nurses are being told that we have to take on more than we safely can all the while still being
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disciplined, be unsafely taking care of our patients and putting our licenses at risk. >> so that is the concern, that -- so what do you want to see put in place for protections then? >> mainly we want more support at a time when the pandemic hit, hca made cuts to travelers, cuts to per diem staff, they removed charge nurses from bedside care and we want people to throw on scrubs and help us out so that we can safely take care of our patients. >> so you just want the numbers increased which as understand was a problem even before the pandemic. your hospital did release a joint statement with other hospitals involved in response to the impending strike and this is what they said, given the current covid-19 surge and the national nursing shortage, it is unconscionable that the union would urge nurses to abandon the bedside and ask them to sacrifice wages from several lost shifts.
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it is also surprising that they would take an action that may endanger patients, a decision that their own constitution and bylaws state that they should avoid. >> and i respond to that that the hca put us in this position. when the pandemic started, they short staffed us, they continue to flex staff home when we need help. so basically what i'm saying is they have recorded record profits at a time when we need more help. we just need more support. >> erin, thank you so much for coming on and talking to us about this. we know what you are doing is getting a lot of attention so we really reerkt your per sp appreciate your perspective. >> this was a moraldy wlem made for all of us, but we have to take a stand for our patients and our community because they deserve better. >> we've heard some of the
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complaints from nurses represented by your union, they feel that actually many of them have been infected, i know some your hospital have died, there are concerns about infect being patients who didn't come in with covid as well. this is a very difficult time for hospitals and we thank you for the work that you do. so we have some breaking news here. elderly residents at the woodland senior living facility are becoming some of the first floridians to receive the coronavirus vaccine and that is where rosa flores is. tell us how this is going to go down here, rosa. >> reporter: it has been a very emotional and historic day here in florida. governor desantis announcing that these are indeed some of the first seniors around the country to get the vaccine. i want to show you the video because our cameras just captured it. this is vera, she is 88 years old and she lived at the john knox ville lindsey graham for
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about six year 9:00 a.m. and she is among the first to get this vaccine after she got the vaccine, she said that she was feeling well. now, i should add that we had so many questions for governor ron desantis about the vaccinations and about getting information from the state regarding covid. and he literally just left without taking any questions from the media. >> no questions. and i know you had a lot. you've asked many of him. rosa flores, thank you so much. president trump soon to be neighbors in florida are not thrilled about his re-election plans. some even taking legal action in an effort to stop him from moving to mar-a-lago. we'll discuss that next. at liberty mutual customizes your home insurance, here's one that'll really take you back. wow! what'd you get, ryan? it's customized home insurance from liberty mutual!
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president trump's plan to relocate to mar-a-lago after he leaves the white house is not sitting too well with his palm beach neighbors. cnn has learned that they don't want trump there to the is it event that some are taking legal action in order to try to keep him out kate bennett is here with us now. and so kate, these neighbors have sent a letter, it is sort of like a cease and desist. what can you tell us about it? >> it is stort of lisort of lik. what it is, sort of reminding the town that donald trump when he agreed to switch the private mar-a-lago estate into the private mar-a-lago club agreed that he would not be a resident there for more than consecutive
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three weeks. so any member, himself included, could not live there for more than 21 days. so that agreement is now being put back into the forefront with a letter from neighbors' attorney saying remember this agreement that you signed, you cannot be legally a resident of the place where ostensibly you will move as soon as your presidency is over in january. so it is sort of between a rock and a hard place. donald trump has had a contentious relationship with the town of palm beach for many, many years since he purchased the prod perty in 1985. so this is another effort by the residents whose lives have been disrupted they say to prevent him from moving there permanently. >> and it also kompg complicate planning for the secret service. >> absolutely. there is a lot of apparatus that need to be put in place to protect a post-president -- in
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his post-breaks city. the s presidency. the secret service is familiar with mar-a-lago, they were establishing already guidelines and plans to protect the president long term there. the president cannot live there in a long term way that the economy decision of having to get the secret service up and running for wherever he does live. >> and if not mar-a-lago, where with the other post-presidency housing option be? >> well, that is the real puzzle here because as we know, donald trump and melania trump have made florida their permanent residence. they moved from new york to florida and established mar-a-lago as their permanent residence. which means that they have to live there six months out of the year. but the found is sruh town is s live there permanently. if donald trump wants to fight this, he would try, it could
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become a legal battle, he could move to one of his other property, there is doral, he might face the same thing there, or he could buy his own private home in the palm beach area or somewhere else near by and that would alleviate that. i think all of those options are ones that he is not looking forward to. the family has to make renovations, the first lady has been overseeing them, updates to their private quarters at mar-a-lago in preparation for moving down there in january. she has looked for schools for her son. this could be a real l puzzle for them. >> kate, we appreciate it. and breaking news, congress is on the verge of reaching a deal on a stimulus package that is likely to include much needed checks for americans. we'll have details ahead. ing
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