anderson's digital new show, live at 6:00 p.m. eastern on cnn.com/fullcircle, and on the cnn app at any time, on demand. there is a ton of breaking news tonight, let's go to chris for "cuomo prime time." >> thank you, john. i am chris cuomo. we have breaking news. this is a very bad situation that the president is creating right now. i think he's doing it to look good. but it's about the rest of us. here's the news. okay? it took almost to the end of this tantrum of a presidency, but we now have a moment for this president, an ultimate moment of put up or shut up about being a champion for the american people, okay? the president has just put out a video statement saying he may not sign the relief bill. there are two big wants that he

has. but the one that matters most is that he says he wants the checks to you to be made bigger. now, this is something you can't just say. it is not about talking the talk, because every moment you delay, people suffer. you must walk the walk. the democrats, as you know, always wanted more money in the checks. it is his party and frankly trump's own staff that bargained down the eventual amount. nancy pelosi, speaker of the house, a democrat, obviously, seized on this truth. and issued the challenge that will define the final days of trump's presidency. 2 in terms of what he does for you. republicans repeatedly refused to say what amount the president wanted for direct checks.

at leaast, the president has agreed to $2,000. democrats are willing to bring this to the floor by unanimous consent. let's do it. mr. president, are you ready to walk the walk for the american people? this is a thing that they need more than anything else at a time that they need it more than any other time. it would be a damnable thing to delay relief, the way you are right now by not signing, and force millions of americans to suffer, to starve, all through the holidays, and into the new year, if you don't deliver. and this should be a simple task. get the retrumplicans in line. they must do as you say. ordinarily, i wouldn't argue that, sure, you're the president. but that's not the way it works with you, and you know it. you've gotten them to swallow so

much worse, this will do good for people. you have gotten them to be silent, or more importantly, complicit, about your election canard. and even you know that it's what it is. even you are surprised at how gullible they've been. it's part of your frustration. i hear what you're saying. i hear that you're saying, i don't get it. they'll say whatever i want them to say. how come i can't do anything here? i can't help you on the election, because that's about the constitution and the law. this is about you and your will. get your party to face the truth about the need in this country. they have no problem swallowing lies. get them to own the truth. this is your moment. this is what will be the ultimate capstone. are you a deal maker, or just a con? here's the president's position. if certain items that he thinks

are part of the relief bill but ro aren't, i don't like it either, i think there should have been just relief, and it should have happened a long time ago. but you need to expect better. and in the attached spending bill, there are certain items he sees as wasteful. and interestingly, he wants the three martini lunch extended even longer. so is he really about wasteful things when that is about as wasteful as anything in the bill, except for the wall spending they put in? here's the thing. why should we question whether or not he will do anything, rather than just talk? months of inaction. all the negotiating was going on, he wanted no part of it. he either watched passively, the republicans wouldn't even say what the president wanted. they didn't even want him to have any role in this.

he sat passively or completely ignored it. now he's saying checks should be $2,000, not $600. everything points to this being something where he gets to look good, as others will truly suffer. people absolutely could use more money. and it was on him to fight for that, but when the fight was happening. not after it has been decided. this is not swooping in at the last minute. this isn't picking up the ball at the 1 yard line. this is a delay of game. he's been told that this delay and any help that was going to come may not come. for anybody. by christmas, or new year. and it could scuttle any chance of a deal, anytime soon. americans were supposed to start getting checks next week. you know, i'm trying to find new ways to tell you this all the time. i've never seen hunger in this

country the way it is right now. i'm 50 years old. we haven't seen it since the depression. it's 1 in 6 or 7. but depending on where you live, 1 in 4, 1 in 3 children not getting adequate nutrition, the amount of food. it's desperate out there, and he's holding this money hostage three days before christmas. let history remember, in the final days of trump's presidency, he messed with good people. and if he doesn't deliver, that must be his legacy. because i'll tell you what he did do. he took care of bad people. this pardon blitz is the worst we've seen. it's a new low. you can support trump. but don't you dare ever call him a law and order president again.

20 pardons and commutations. papadopoulos, just a liar. lied to the fbi about his russia contacts. alex, who was deported after pleading guilty to lying to investigators. former gop congressman duncan hunter. you talk about draining the swamp, say hello to the alligators. he was sentenced to 11 months for stealing campaign funds. he gets a pre-christmas pardon. chris collins, sentenced to 26 months for insider trading. lying to investigators. and he was doing that trading while in congress. he gets one, too. why? they were some of his earliest

backers. that's not law and order. he commuted the sentence of steve stocker. also pardoned, four blackwater guards involved in deadly shootings of iraqi civilians. the pardons, that's about what trump is about in terms of character or lack thereof. if you're good to him, nothing else matters. but we have the perfect guest to speak about what is happening with the relief bill, and what could come next. the chair of the house intelligence committee, congressman adam schiff. good to have you back in a short window. thank you for responding to the need of the news tonight. >> you bet. good to be with you again. >> what do you think about this? do you believe that this is just an ugly bluff, or do you believe

this is a moment where trump can say to these guys, i want to go out looking good. change the amount. >> it's hard to well. i think we're seeing a real descent in the president's abilities, attention, focus, conduct, and it's probably going to get worse over the next 30 days. but the reality is, if the president didn't like the amount that the republicans in congress are willing to go along with, he should have said something. he's been completely missing in action. this has been true not just since the election, although it certainly was heightened after the election. but for months now, as we've tried to get a relief package going, he's been completely disengaged. why wait until the house and senate passes a bill to say, oh, suddenly, i want the checks to be bigger. it is true, the only thing he's ever cared about in the relief package are the checks with his

name on them. but nonetheless, if he wanted to make them bigger, he could have weighed in, and he didn't. i don't know what this last minute gambit is all about. but if he's serious, and can get republicans to go along with him, i'm all for it. the speaker said, we can take up a bill asap by anonymous consent to increase the amount of the checks. so we're willing if he can get the republicans onboard. >> i'm biting my lip here, because this is -- i know we use and abuse this word and we shouldn't, but this is dangerous for these families out there. i know you know, the need is great in your state. the outpouring from people around the country who need the money, and are starving, my concern is this. let's say it is a bluff. he says, give me more money, they say, no, beat it. now what happens if he says,

fine, i'm going to veto it. because he's all about taking it too far and doubling down. do you have the votes to override a veto in this bizarro world where the same guys who don't want to give him more money for the checks may not vote against him to override the veto because they fear him. then the people don't get the checks, and we don't get a bill signed into law. >> you're right, we don't know. you're right about the need out there. in my district, with no rooms in icus, businesses have had to shut down, there are long lines for food. people need the help. and that is true all over the country. they just can't wait anymore. and so this has a real direct impact on them, their livelihood. certainly, it's an even more bitter blow during the holidays.

but here we are. we passed the bill in the house and the senate. suddenly the president weighs in, is he serious about vetoing it, and if he does, will republicans suddenly change course? they're capable of that. these are the same republicans who said, we're not going to impeach him, even though we find him guilty, because we think the voters should decide. once the voters decided, they said, we don't like that, we're going to join a lawsuit to overturn the election. they've shown no floor below which they will not go to appease this president. >> that's what i just argued. i just argued that. this should be easy for him. if you get men and women supposedly of goodwill to be silent or complicit about something they know is false,

with the election, this should be easy for him. and i have one more question about this. we're hearing from our congressional reporter, phil mattingly, you guys are thinking of putting this on the floor thursday. but won't you know tonight, tomorrow morning, tomorrow afternoon, if the republicans are going to go anywhere near it? >> well, chris, i have to think that the republicans are not going to go anywhere near this. but we're willing to try. i'm willing to go back to the house floor, do whatever i can, do whatever it takes to get it done. i'm sure that some republicans will object to unanimous consent, so we'll all have to come back and vote on it. but i'm all for it. but i have little confidence that this lame duck president is going to get that kind of a bill through the senate, and maybe he doesn't even care. maybe as you point out, this is just about him posturing in a

way that he thinks will help him down the road. the suffering of the american people has never been all that much an issue for him. it's always only about what is in it for donald trump. >> look, the good news is, you guys probably have to come back to vote on the ndaa anyway, another piece of legislation he's expected to veto. and these are his people who are hungry in this country. these are trump voters. these are, you know, look, it should be that we're all his people, right? he's supposed to be the president of everybody. but these are his people. i'm worried about the delay, really derailing the situation. then you go away for the new year, and you come back, and people don't have the checks, and who knows what happens leading up to the inauguration, stalling this even further. every day counts. then the pardons come out. i am not as shocked as some

people are by this list. i expected him to take care of his friends. that's what he does. what is your biggest concern on the list? >> well, you know, i think it's really difficult to point at what is the most egregious on this. but republican corrupt officials who endorse trump, they get a pardon. people who kill innocent civilians in a theater of war, they get a pardon. they're heroes on fox, they get a pardon. people who lied to cover up for themselves or for the president, they get a pardon. you know, it's just another body blow against the rule of law in this country. when you think about the damage that the military pardons are going to do to military justice, to our relations with iraq, when you think about the damage it's going to do to public integrity,

to consider people who insider trade, or people who defraud supporters, if they're elected officials of the same party as the president, the law doesn't apply to them. it's just a terrible injury, another injury to our democracy by this president. but, look, it's like the old adage, garbage in, garbage out. you elect a corrupt president, you get a corrupt result. >> so much for draining the swamp. here's my concern, and tell me if i'm off-base. this is a nice signal to people, listen, do whatever you can for me between now and january 6th or maybe even after that. it doesn't matter, i don't care if they come after you. they didn't do anything to you that i can't undo. do anything you can to keep me in power. doesn't this send that signal? >> it does. and frankly, that's been his message all along.

which is if you lie for me, if you're cover for me, if you're loyal to me, i'll protect you. on the other hand, if you expose corruption or stand up to me, i'll come after you. when he praises paul manafort, his former campaign manager, giving private polling data to someone linked to russian int intelligence, he praises him but condemns others like michael cohen who did cooperate, calls him a rat. he's acting like an organized crime figure, but he's the president, who can give people a get out of jail free card. >> congressman, thank you for coming through for us tonight. appreciate you. >> thanks, chris. >> this is a big deal.

this is heavy anti-santa territory. everybody wants more money in their checks. i know the desperation out there. all of us should know it. but if he's just puffing up his chest and saying, look, i went big. the system here. that's unforgivable. every day is a life being off-course in this country. when it comes to the pardons, i mean, who is surprised? this president isn't about loyalty, he doesn't go both ways. it's fealty. you put me first, i'll take care of you. doesn't matter the felony. duncan hunter, chris collins, this wasn't about mueller. these guys broke the law. and he just forgives it, because he can. he has four weeks left. what else is he telling people right now? do this and that for me, he can get them out of anything. what does this suggest about what could come next?

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all right, two big stories. what will happen with the relief bill now? that's still developing. what we did see are the pardons. the concern is not just, surprise, trump is not about law and order. he will reward felons if they pay fealty to him. but what else could he do? where is his head? i have two great heads, preet bharara and andrew mccabe. there's no need to discuss, does he have the right, unless you somehow can show it's self-dealing. the question becomes what they say about what he might do,

andrew mccabe. what is the suggestion for you on that, especially looking at not just the mueller folks, but guys with unrelated, stockman, collins, hunter, they're just crooks. >> you're absolutely right, chris. this breaks down on interesting lines. first, the mueller defendants, none of that is surprising to anybody, right? and the simple fact is, he can continue to pardon everybody who was convicted in the mueller probe, everyone who was interviewed. none of that will erase the fact that donald trump is the only american president in history to have been elected -- >> he's even messing with the signal. is preet bharara still there? >> i believe so. >> take up the point for me about what these pardons signal to you. >> you make an interesting point. are other people out there who

are still hoping for a pardon, who have enough power, influence, or position to do something favorable to the president? i don't think there's many people in that category. do i think he's laying the groundwork for additional pardons that will be even, i think, more controversial. these are controversial, everyone is talking about them. i think many of them are disgraceful, especially the ones you keep mentioning, the two congressmen who were convicted under jeff sessions. but there will be a next wave of pardons that may be people closer to him, maybe even family members, and ultimately even himself. he does have a peculiar way of defining deviance down, by inuring us to him do ing that, and then he does it again and

again and again, even more disgracefully going forward. >> and a culture of low expectations, they all pardon their friends, remember this guy, remember that guy? but there is an interesting aspect to this. what we would have not seen before was pardon as prophylaxis. pardoning his own kids. people think, doesn't there have to be an investigation? no. if you're president, you can say, cuomo, i pardon you now for when you get in trouble at some point. can he do that? >> he cannot pardon criminal conduct that occurs at the state level, and he also can't pardon conduct that hasn't yet occurred. you can pardon conduct that has occurred in the past, but has

not yet been charged. that's what happens with ford and nixon. you can do that. >> what if he says, anything that jared kushner has said or done, while he's been here with me, from this date until this date, anything to do with any of that, he's pardoned. because i'll tell you why, there are bad people who will go after him for bad reasons, and i'm going to protect him from it. >> that's his narrative. that's why i think he'll do it with respect to a lot of people, including himself. it's what president ford did for richard nixon, pardoned for all conduct during his presidency, crimes against the united states of america, based on conduct during his presidency. there's nothing preventing him from doing that. >> andrew mccabe is back. preet and i are discussing the

idea of pardon as prophylaxis for his own. could be jared, ivanka, anything they've said or done from this period to this period, encompassing his presidency, they can't be charged with anything on the federal level. he could do that. >> he absolutely could. ford is obviously the example. there is some degree of specificity that has to be in the pardon. but i think that by attaching that to the time period of his presidency probably satisfies that requirement. so he absolutely, i believe, could issue those sorts of pardons to his friends and family members, people in the administration. >> before tonight, 88% of trump's commutations helped someone close to the president or furthered his political aims.

preet, how does that stick out to you with administrations past? >> i haven't done a deep dive, and there have been bad pardons before. other presidents have made misstatements, have abused their power and their pardon power. trump takes all of these things on every occasion to the next level in size, scope, and disgrace. bill clinton had a couple of bad pardons, true. he was investigated for the mark rich pardon by my former office. there was a consequence even after he left office, though no charges were ultimately brought. so he does it a cut above, he's special in that regard. >> one of the things he's doing right now, the fund he's using for contributions. i get the emails all the time, i'm one of his key donors, apparently. and that money, he could say, by

the way, anything to do with us raising this money and where the money goes or how we use it, i pardon all of the people involved with running the charity. that would create a real problem for the doj, wouldn't it, andrew? >> it would. although, i tell you, chris, i don't know if it's even necessary. the fact is, this leadership p.a.c. that he's created to fund his activities after he leaves the white house, there's almost no restrictions on how that money can be spent, who can donate to it. it's a black box of campaign finance law right now. he's really profited incredibly based on the insane conspiracy theories over voter fraud. >> gentlemen, thank you very much. i believe the big cautionary sign in this is, if he's okay

with this kind of stuff, what might people do between now and when biden is inaugurated that he can forgive them for and they would know that? these are the kinds of things he's capable of. preet, andrew, god bless, and be safe. >> thank you. there's no question that trump is okay burning things down in the name of his own aggrandizement, sparing felons who once took an oath to serve the country. what does he care? but what is happening with relief now? his threat to veto creates several paths of potential chaos for american people. 36 hours before christmas eve. i've got anthony scaramucci, and michael smerconish.

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all right. what has trump done by threatening to veto this bill? from our reporting and me working phones and texts during the show and in commercial, i can't see it as anything good except for himself. this illusion that he wanted to do better for you. republicans are split in two ways. there are three avenues, the democrats bring this up as a unanimous consent vote, we'll go to the floor and vote on it right now. that doesn't seem like it's going to pass muster. enough republicans will say, no, we don't want to do it this way. you have to have everybody come back. they're going to come back anyway, because there's another piece of legislation that the

president will veto. it's about the time this takes, with people not getting help. if you look at the numbers, 359-53 in the house, 92-6 in the senate, that tells you, veto proof. pocket veto, but veto proof. the republicans are saying, manu raju says, the leaders don't want to negotiate. go ahead and veto. that looks bad for trump, because his own party will say, we're not always trump's minions. and the retrumplicans who may be afraid to go along with this bill because he's against it. but what is the best case scenario? they don't really believe he's serious about it.

so the delay can go all the way to january 3rd. that's the backstop. what happens january 3rd? the new congress is sworn in. that means you have to start again, from scratch. that, to me, is the worst case scenario. trump can perceive that as him being tough, and the congressional leaders, the republicans, they can say, well, we held our ground, even against trump. what happens to the people who are hungry? it all starts again, this bill. so the best case scenario is for trump to be dismissed as a con, this is just another con. go ahead and veto, but do it now. if they come out and say sign it in and out or veto it now, either way, we're going to get what we want, and you're going to hurt people with delay. let's bring in anthony scaramucci and michael

smerconish. mooch, does that square with what you know, it's a chest thump, i'm with you, i'm the good guy? what is the play? >> it does square. we had lunch with a mutual friend, trying to caution him right now. hopefully he's listening. but i was with him in july of 2017 on air force one, he wanted to veto the russian sanctions bill. i begged him not to do that. i said, what will happen is they'll override it, emasculate your presidency, and so he doesn't care about that stuff now, because he has 28, 29 days to go but when he realizes they're going to emasculate him by overriding his veto, leahe's going to sign the legislation. that's my prediction, because he doesn't want that level of humiliation with 28, 29 days to

go. >> smerconish is shaking his head know. what do you think? >> i think you're underestimating the president. i don't think the perception of him being the grinch who stole christmas is accurate. i think this is the most effective thing he's done since losing the election. american people won't understand the difference between the covid relief bill and the omnibus spending bill. they're going to think william proxmeyer. the golden fleece awards. when they hear things like counting amber jack fish, at a time when americans are getting $600, that will sound like chump change. it's him laying back on those arguments that first put him in office, that he's the champion of the working person. and he wants two grand in everybody's pocket. it's effective for him.

>> i agree. for him. i'm saying, i don't think he can get it done. and there's a cost to the nature of this. every day that's delayed because we're seeing whether or not he's going to be robin hood or not, people are starving in this country. and the check will not come. >> they are, chris. but you're looking at the roll call, and you're assuming that those votes in the senate and the house hold firm. i don't know what the reaction is on a.m. talk radio and that other cable station. i'm sure they're thumping their chests in support of the president, and that base may shake those votes. >> that would be awesome. but then we get back to the question, which is, where have you been? democrats have been fighting for $2,000 for six months, and his own staff has been fighting against it. i think the facts are against

it. but what are the chances the party doesn't say, we got to give him this? >> listen, i appreciate what michael is saying. but i think that's donald trump 2015 or 2016. it's not donald trump 2020. and he's got a lot of things to worry about on january 21st. he's got a direct signal from mitch mcconnell, they've been told in the senate to knock this stuff off. trump is just raising money off of this ruse related to election fraud, all the false nonsense, chris. so i just want to frame it as donald trump 2020, he's looking at the tea leaves. he's going to get overridden. mcconnell will completely embarrass him in the senate. he doesn't want that. he's making noises, but he'll sign that bill. >> that's a factor into the equation, michael, who knows what the day brings, what terrestrial radio brings, but

how much does trump want this? that matters also. >> i think he wants a donnybrook with mcconnell now. as you well know, the president is focused on january 6th, and mcconnell has admonished his cauc caucus, everybody needs to stand together. tuberville, we hope you don't go with the house republicans. he thinks he owes them nothing. >> but if this goes too far, you get to january 3rd, people are really in a bad place. >> yeah. they are. but i'm not convinced that the court of public opinion points a finger at him when they hear from him the laundry list of aid to cambodia and egypt. why the hell are we getting 600

bucks? >> don't forget the billion-plus for his wall, and extending lunches for rich guys. this isn't a guy who has just found jesus in terms of what the purpose of charity is. >> i'm only suggesting to you, it's not black and white. he doesn't necessarily come out of this politically speaking as a loser. >> i don't think you're wrong. just asking for more money for people looks good. >> right. yeah. >> in the backwards world of republican politics right now. but look, michael is right about this one thing, anthony. donnybrook is another fancy word for a brawl. >> it's not fancy. it's a baseball term. >> the biggest word we use on this show is mayonnaise. i appreciate you both. this is what we do know, every day without resolution is a day

that people don't get the relief they need. this was brilliantly broken down inside and out. anthony, thank you. michael, as always, thank you. if i don't see you both, god bless the families for christmas. >> merry christmas. how do we do the job in this situation? how do we handle this? we've never seen people do these kinds of things. norms have been respected. what do we do? sam donaldson is here, how does he see what is going on with the pardons and the last-minute appeal for more money? does trump look good or bad? does it matter? he'll answer all of it in 18 seconds, next.

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because we're doing the job for you. we've seen controversial pardons before, criticized as presidents taking care of people who took care of them. but while trump didn't start this kind of a problem, he sure did blow it into a new universe. now we have, again, something i've never seen before. people play brinksmanship all the time, but now you have a deal, and trump wants to look the hero, and say i want more money for the people? does that make him a good guy, or something else? let's talk to somebody who was a mentor to me in how to question power, and how to frame situations. sam donaldson, the best to you and the family. you are a gift to me, sir. >> hello, chris. what we're seeing now is apocalypse now.

colonel kurtz muttering about the horror. only this time, donald trump is the horror, and i think he's creating chaos in his last few days on purpose, because in his mad way, he thinks if he can get his base riled up, and other people wanting the $2,000 on the 6th of january, something can happen to make him become president for another four years. that's madness, but we're dealing with a madman. >> that's the point. how do we explain what is happening to the american people. let's unpack both. pardons, we've seen bad pardons before, mark rich with clinton, what ford did with nixon. this is just more of that. what do you say? >> he can do whatever he wants to do, and the pardons serve his interest. the people who murdered in iraq, his base likes that.

they're military men, they were defending themselves. the people who were his friends, trying to keep that russia probe from destroying him, when in fact russia had nothing to do with this, his base loves that, too. most of the pardons i've seen about the political friends of him and the people i just talked about are directed towards the base. he wants the base now for the 6th of january. and if that doesn't work, if he actually has to leave the presidency, horrors there, he wants that base to continue to follow him as far as he wants to go. >> so the idea of saying i want more money for you, that's good. the conviction to fight for it, to the end, do you think he has that? because he didn't fight for more money up until this point. and this could get ugly if the relief is delayed because he's holding out. >> he doesn't care about americans who frankly -- what

has he called americans in the past, losers, not just in the military. but the people he doesn't want to associate with him. remember the times he said, this crowd of mine, i don't want to see them or be with them. that's not his kind of people. his only kind of people are the person he sees in the mirror. that's all he cares about. you say, how do we get this across to the american people, we got it across, and they voted him out. even though republicans down the line did pretty well in this last election. that got to many people, and many voted for him in 2016, and they said, we don't want this guy, this is terrible. but his cult followers are still there, and i don't know how to reach them. i'd like to. because you don't know what to do with them or for them. we should do something for them and see if we can bring them back into the fold here.

>> plenty of people who voted for trump are starving. >> in the meantime, we can't allow them to win and support trump to be another president for four years. >> subordinating the constitution to his own interests seems like something that is highly unlikely, but not great for our culture. a lot of his voters are hungry, and it seems good that he wants to get more money for them. but he didn't walk the walk. he doesn't want a veto override. so is the power of trump strong enough over that party to have them go back over their own deal and do so before january 3rd? >> that's right. but again, he's created chaos. he probably doesn't know how it will play out. but he thinks it will play out to his benefit. look what he's doing to the senators in georgia. the senators and mitch mcconnell

wants to have them elected. he said he wants $2,000, but if he could have done that earlier, it might have kept them in office. i'm not calling the election, but we come back to the point that he's not you. you worry about americans who are hungry. he doesn't. he's not hungry. ivanka is not hungry. his sons are not hungry. what do you expect of him? >> i guess exactly what we're getting. sam donaldson, thank you for putting it in perspective as you do. like i said, your insight has always been a gift to me. this christmas will be no different. be well, my friend. >> the same to you and your family. >> the question becomes, what happens in the next couple of days? this is not a game. look, of course it is good to ask for more for the poor. but he didn't.

he didn't ask for more for the poor until now. can he get it done, or is this what sam suggests, just him wanting to look good to the right people, at the right time? what a sin that would be against the culture of this country and the need. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ come on!

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thank you for watching. i'll be back with you again tomorrow night. i'll have a little something special for you just before christmas. and laura coates in for d. lemon. and, you know, the tough reckoning is, what is trump's play on this relief? of course it's good to ask for more money. but he didn't fight for it. but it will still sound good, but to who? and how does he risk not getting ve vetoed? can he pull it off, does he want to pull it off? this is a hard one. i don't know why he did it. if he wanted it, he would have done it so