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marianne was the whole some cast away who competed for decades. wells had roles on other shows and on stage as well. dawn wells was 82 years old. my kids watched their first episode three weeks ago and no surprise they loved it as well. rest in peace, dawn. that's it for me tonight, "ac 360 starts now." a good evening to you, jim sciutto here in for anderson. a slow vaccination efforts. the race to immunize to stop the virus when we are already behind him could be getting a whole lot tougher. dr. fauci, the new transmitted covid strain had been detected
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in his state. >> we were informed that this new variant, this new strain we identified from the united kingdom, some other parts of the globe identified in colorado yesterday has been identified here in the state of california in southern california. >> fauci's reaction is not a surprise. all the same raising the states. new forecasting tonight projects up to 424,000 covid deaths by the 23rd of next month. that's as many as 83,000 more lives lost over the next three weeks or so. it comes after the worse single day on record for reported deaths in this country. 3,725 of our fellow americans in 24 hours, including
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41-years-old, he leaves behind a wife and two young children, there are so many tragedies now like his. on the other side of this grim ledger, a vaccine roll-out even the people running the program say has room to improve. >> dr. slaou says you need to be doing a better job. you agree with that in. >> yes, all vaccines are starting slow. yes, we have two holidays and three snow storms. it is more of starting the program and it starts slowly and ramping up quickly. >> administration is missing its own goals here and it is not like holidays and snowstorms are surprising this time of the year or unforeseeable when the roll-out was being planned. the real problem according to many experts and insider of this
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administration can be traced back to the planning itself. >> it comes down to really a lack of a national strategy on this vaccine distribution. this has been the problem for day one on the pandemic response. >> that's olivia troy, a former top covid adviser to the vice president who'll join us shortly. that lack of a national strategy as we have been reporting for some time means getting shots in the arms is now up to each states and relies onover burden and often under funded states and local agencies. all 67 counties there are handling the roll out differently and multiplying that situation by 50. what you get is a country that's vaccinated about 2.6 million people in the last two weeks. that works out to 49 per hundredth thousands. a little better than canada, worse than the u.k. 12 times worse than israel which
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is now vaccinated some 600 people per 100,000. israel's prime minister says the goal is to inoculate a quarter by the end of that month. a contrast that president trump is not delivering. after making these kinds of promises day-to-day on the campaign trail. >> we are on track to deliver 100 million doses of a great vaccine. we are all set logistilogistica will be done very quickly. we'll get rid of this virus. it will be very -- you watch, it is going to happen quickly. we'll have our country back. >> another promise unmet. that was late october. today as he did yesterday, he tweeted is not up to him. it is up to the states. today as he did yesterday, the day before yesterday and the day before that.
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313 times now since taking office, the president was doing his golfing at one of his own clubs, putting taxpayers's dollars into his businesses while thousands die and millions waiting for help. more on cnn's cate l kaitlyn co. >> he's now going back to washington tomorrow morning and that's unusual because typically the president loves going to new year's eve party they have and often speaks to reporters and now he's not attending that party even though guests were told he was going to. we are told he's going to be leaving washington early tomorrow to go back to washington. it is not clear why but of course we know the president is
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basically completely focused on what's going to be happening next week in d.c. and that's on capitol hill when they meet to do what's typically mundane for congress to certify the election and of course that would mean certifying joe biden's win. the president and his republican allies are now planning a disruption to that. of course, all of these antics we have been talking about are really going to amount with tha theatri theatrics. jim, it does come as we are seeing these concerns of the vaccine roll-out and what's going on and why the number is nowhere near what officials said they're going to be. they spent months planning this roll-out. it was not like it was unexpected when the vaccine was likely to come. we have heard from the president of course. he's deflecting and blaming states as he often did with ppe and testing early on in the pandemic.
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he's taking a similar route here. you are not hearing from his own official who did hold a briefing to talk to reporters of what's going on and why there is such lags in this. they said they're going to address it and they said they're not where they want to be right now. they are focused on changing that and hoping this is not something that persists like the problem with testing through the the pandemic. it is not the tactic that you are seeing the president is taking and putting all the blame back on the stakes. >> hope is not a plan. we would expect hope, any president would be focusing on this right now instead of disputing the election he lost. is there any sense of urgency among his inner circle though about their legacy or if not the president here with an immunization process that's not going well? >> i think it depends on who you ask. if you ask more of the political staffers, they're defensive when it comes to things like this. they were the same of testing though and ventilators and ppe
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when we were discussing all of that and all these phases that we have gone through. the federal government can't do anything. also can these departments of health and state. they are in charge of testing and contact tracing and vaccine distribution. if you speak to officials at operation warp speed, they want to be where they wanted to be. we will have this and feel confident about this. i do think they are working on it and hoping it is going to be something at the beginning that of course remains to be seen. >> we'll see. those promises have been little down repeatedly, kaitlyn collins with the president. joining us now congresswoman donna shaelala and olivia troy,
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add v adviser to vice president pence. congresswoman, it is great to be with you. the goal is 100 million by the end of this month and it was 40000020000002.6 million now. is thi4 4 e 0 million -- there is no plan for the last mile. >> they planned for the distribution getting the vaccines out to the states but they did not plan for how they're going to get enough vaccines in to the arms of people in this country and these numbers are much too small even joe biden says he's going to do 100 million in 100 days. he needs to do 200 million in 100 days.
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if he does 100 million in 100 days it will take a year and a half. the rest of the world knows how to do this, particularly the developing world. i was once in india in a weekend they got millions of people vaccinated because they coordinated every part of the healthcare system. we can't do this just by sending vaccines to hospitals. every part of our country has to be organized to get these vaccines in to the arms of our citizens. >> yes. look at the u.k., they just approved the astra zeneca vaccine today. olivia, you were a covid adviser to vice president-pence. you wrote on twitter, "once again let's shift the blame to the states on the covid vaccine
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distributi distribution, just like you did with testing and ppe." i wonder during your time of the administration, did some folks see this coming? this idea of laying it all on the states is not working. >> absolutely. >> there is no way you would have worked in this environment knowing the obstacle being over come along the way. we saw this with testing. that was a disaster. we saw this with ppe which was a disaster especially at the beginning until fema steps in in an organized manner to bring order to ts an organized manner to bring order to t to the chaos. they have a no network, they know how to do disaster response and they could not have done it without them. we have these conversations and the task force of health department.
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i remember like dr. fauci and dr. birx and dr. hahn who have worked in hospitals and who are experts in this and understand the hospital system and raised concerns along the way of the need to help and partner with these states and to have them vaccinated. it is unfair to drop off a load of vaccine and say over to you. we are going to wash our hands-on it because that way we can blame the state and not take responsibility. >> congresswoman shalala, this is extremely disappointing. there was so much hope. i was among the crew hoping and now we are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel here. i wonder there will be a new president 21 days, he does take it seriously, president-elect biden, how quickly can he and his administration fills the hole here. we spoke about all the wait being put on private pharmacies.
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i mean how quickly can the biden administration stand up of what's needed to get these vaccines in to people's arms? >> pretty quickly. anyone that thinks there is a light at the end of the tunnel on this covid raging disease is going in the wrong direction because we are just at the beginning of this. the biden administration will bring a sense of urgency. they can organize the country with that sense of urgency and we can't be dependant on our existing healthcare infrastructure. we'll need additional site where the distribution of this vaccine and it is going to be more than just the pharmacies. it is going to be every clinic and probably every independent site set up so we can get this vaccine into the arms of americans as quickly as possible. it will take major organization.
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we have not been good at vaccine distribution in the country. only 45% of the people get the flu vaccines now. this is new for us. other countries have done it. i would call in unicef, they have done large scale vaccinations in countries, much larger than we have done. i would called the world health organization. the developing world has more experience than we do in the distribution of vaccines very quickly and very accurately. the biden administration will bring a sense of urgency. is that where we are? >> america in the year 2020 going into 2021? i have seen unicef worked in the poorest country in the world delivering basic healthcare. does the u.s. today need that kind of help to get millions
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vaccinated? >> unfortunately, when you have had years of leadership team in office does not care about the american people and in this previous year during a major pandemic, we are in a terrible situation right now. it is going to take a long time for all of this to kind of pass and for us to get structures in place and bring order to this. we are in a really divided situation right now. you have people still not wearing masks and you have leadership and republican leadership out there not wearing masks and setting terrible examples on a daily basis. on top of a raging virus across the country, we are in a bad situation right now. >> let's hope we can turn it
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around. congresswoman shalala and olivia troye, thank you for your services to the country. >> thank you. >> next what officials had to say about this covid strain and the vaccine roll-out and senator tim kaine and the president surrenders on higher relief covid payments. ♪ ♪ ♪ for every trip you've been dreaming of, expedia has millions of flexible booking options. because the best trip is wherever we go together. ♪
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gained a couple of more pounds. that's good for the babies. between the moments that make us who we are, and keeping them safe, private and secure, there's webex. ♪ ♪ beautiful. the news break today of a new covid strain is traced in the united states. as with the first is a national guard member part of the team deployed of shortage there. the u.k. first discovered is mayed could be up to 70% more
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effective at spreading. plenty to talk about with cnn's medical analyst, dr. lena wen and our public health environment doctor. colorado is one of the first states to identify the presence of this variant that's now in california. dr. fauci and others have said for days it is here in this country. it is clearly that we are seeing it is spreading within the community. these are not the people that brought it themselves from outside the country. >> that's correct. the cases we identified here in colorado, one confirmed and one probable, both have no history of travel in their incubation period indicating it is likely caused by the community spread. >> do you have a sense based on how previous variance spread if you see a couple of cases like this, do you have a sense of how far it is out there at this point?
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>> it is circulating around the community right now, given that we have seen it show up in a second state, it is likely that we see travel associated spread within the community. >> lord, dr. wen, and i want to get this right. i don't want to mislead people. if this variant is tra transmissible, does that mean our social distancing and mask wearing are less effective? >> this variant is spread easily but it still spreads through the same root so it has not changed. it is still an airborne virus and spreads through droplets also and those same mitigation measures we have been talking about all along and avoid in-door gatherings and physical
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distancing. those are still the tools that we have to prevent the spread of this particular variant. the issue though is that we really have to get it under control faster because if it spreads more easily, we are going to get more cases of it which our hospitalizations will also increase and dpet moget mo deaths. >> simple question on mask wearing. ils is it likely for instance that n-95 masks are harder to get are safer than cloth masks. we already know that but is that an early step that people should be thinking about or too early? >> nothing about this variant that's different from the other variant of coronavirus. it is still the same steps. the n-95 is going to protect you more of these three ply-surgical
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masks. you should still find a mask that you are able to wear consistently and well. n-95 is not comfortable. >> trust me, i have been through it. a number of health experts we have spoken to in recent days have said one problem has been that we as a country have not been genetic sequencing as we have been testing. you can spot variance early. we are learning this late because the u.k. found it. in colorado, do you have the capability to get a handle on this by doing those things when you test? >> it is true that the u.k. is ahead and more widespread. the cdc and many states have worked hard to ramp up their sequencing. we have done it here in colorado. we heard this mutation and variant concerns in the u.k., we looked at what is our protocols
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here and how can we be on the look out for it. the next day started surveilling the samples as they came in and looking at what it looked like during our diagnostic tests and that's how we are able to find ours. we started looking on it right away based on what we have heard across the country. we are doing active surveilling. >> understood. dr. wen, if i can get your view on the vaccine roll-out and the slow start to this. the slow but gradual trimming down of this administration
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promises from 100 million doses by tomorrow to 40 and to 20. we are now at 2.6. how concerning is that to you and how quickly can the in coming administration turn it around? >> it is extremely concerning. it is a combination of several things. it is over promising and is not having a national strategy but instead throwing up our hands and basically saying now the government has done their job and distribution. it is all up to the states, we are not going to give you support or funding. it is your problem. ramping it up from now is challenging. the infrastructure actually needs to be built months ago. all is not lost. this needs to be a government response. we need to enlist community health clinics and churches and everyone that needs to be apart of this vaccination drive especially now we know of this variant strain that are in the
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u.s. if this is more transmissible, we have to ramp up rapidly and urgency is our top priority here. >> people need this help. we got to get this rate of infection down and death rate down. >> dr. wen and emily, thank you so much for the work you are doing. >> thank you. we'll ask senator tim kaine about the president's early return to washington and his attempt to get lawmakers to help him overturn the election. so many of them actually won. proven ingredients that fuel 5 indicators of brain performance. memory, focus, accuracy, learning, and concentration. try our new gummies for 30 days and see the difference. finding the right words can be tough.n it comes to autism,
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they meet next week for the ceremonial certification of electoral college votes. joining us now is one of the senators will be present there, tim kaine, senator, thank you so much for talkiking the time tonight. >> absolutely, jim, good to be with you. >> you know josh hawley will join republican house members in seeking to challenge these results on january 6th, what's your reaction? >> well, jim, i am very sad that
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a president is trying to overthrow the popular vote, yes, he's got some wannabes and just like we'll reject the president's veto defense bill, the only defense bill in 60 years, we'll reject his effort to overthrow the will of the american electorate. it will be overwhelming with members' votes telling him to take a hike. >> senator mcconnell does not want this to happen because he's concerned of republicans having to vote to reject the president's claim here in the end. i wonder, you speak to your republican colleagues up on the hill, are you concerned that some of them will feel the pressure here and go along with hawley instead and trump?
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>> the president is pressuring him you have to be sure. jim, this has been very, very carefully fought out. every state not to only hold an election but analyze the results canvas and recount as and dozen of court cases and the attorney general barr and his cyber security and infrastructure security agency said this election is clean and can't be overturned. they'll make the effort and put the efforts on. i have confidence that my colleagues will stand up against a president trying to overthrow the will of the american voter. >> gop election officials and many states we have seen that. i want to move onto additional stimulus of the question of $2,000 payments. the bill to increase the
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stimulus check has quote "no realistic path to pass the senate." is that effort now effectively de dead? >> jim, that's if senator mcconnell would call up the house's bill on the senate floor. we have reasons to believe that we'll get enough democrats and republican votes to go right to the president's desk. when senator mcconnell says there is no realistic path, i am going to translate for you, i will not put that bill up for a vote. he wants to layer it on with all kinds of other extraneous -- a
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bill that president trump will support if he'll put it up the vote in the senate, he'll do everything he can, the $2,000 checks are not going to the americans because of the senate majority leader or not because of the president. >> he's been public opposing that additional stimulus. we have new reporting out moments ago, myself along with my colleagues brian brown and barbara starr. there is deep disagreement over the potential of an imminent attack by iran on u.s. force in the gulf specifically in iraq. there is efforts of flying b-52 bombers and deterrence and however i am told that there is no corroborating intelligence to indicate that an attack is imminent here. i wonder what your level of concern is about escalation to
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some sort of military confrontation with iran and the winning days of the trump administration? >> jim, i am worried about it. president trump has had us to the brink of war with iran twice during his administration. after he unilaterally cancelled the diplomatic deal with iran, the u.s. and allies working hard to achieve in 2015, when president trump backed out of it. he put us on a dangerous path of escalation, the u.s. against iran and vice versa. i am worried he'll do the same in his last few weeks in office. we should be doinot be doing it with a lame duck president. i worry that this president may try to rush us into one on his way out the door that we'll do
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everything we can in congress to insist on the constitutional framework that says america does not go to war unless congress votes. >> you have been consistent for years in our effort to get congress to restate and declare war. senator tim kaine, we wish you and your family the best for the holidays. >> i held that under democrats and republicans. >> exactly. >> folks should know that at home. to your credit, consistency these days in washington. thanks very much and happy new year to you. >> thanks, jim. take care. >> more on what senator hawley and the president think they are up to. what if anything if other republicans are likely to do?
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senate ersor sanatorium, i want start with you. john carey conceded that race the day after, there were dozens of court battles and etcetera going on. i wonder and by the way you at the time scheduled a role-call vote to get people on the record on this. i wonder do you consider this challenge as baseless as that challenge in 2004? >> if you listen to what josh hawley is saying, he's saying the same thing in my opinion which is i can't certify this election knowing of the irregularities of what happened in ohio and hawley is saying the same thing.
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there are irregularities in pennsylvania and other states and he's not going to stand by not bringing it up. barbara boxer knew he's not going to win that and hawley knows. he like boxer thought it was important to bring it up and have this moment of where we brought into focus. >> by the way, let me quote the republican senator from the state of pennsylvania where hawley is saying pennsylvania did not follow its own laws. he, senator pat toomey said the following. "this president trump exhausted all possible options to challenge
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the result of presidential race in pennsylvania. why does this one have legs to stand on? >> i don't think either of them do. they're trying to accomplish the same thing which is drawing irregularities, obviously the ohio delegation and mike dewan who's now governor, you will see similar comment when this issue comes up. i think their deseign to accomplish is the same thing which is to make a point. >> amanda, do you afwrgree? >> is josh hawley taking political advise from barbara boxer? i would be surprised if conservatives who would actually endorsed that. boxers when tshe did that,
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republicans pointed out she was the single vote in the senate against certification. that's what republicans should be doing now. the thing that's different is josh hawley is playing directly to con spspiracconspiracyist lo. the people is egging him on and linking arms with are talking about cancelling votes and giving donald trump a second term. i would expect that josh hawley with all his fancy school degrees rae degre degre degrees realizes that. he knows what he's doing. he's acting like this is the only chance for him and he had no other choice but to stand up and do this. that's a bunch of baloney.
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this is a scam to play to the trump crowd that thinks the election was rigged. it was not. the department of justice has not found anything, the supreme court would not hear the cases and republicans state certified these results. josh hawley does not have anything special in his back pocket or secret knowledge that those three major entities do not. >> amanda, we should know josh hawley has his own sight set on 2024. mitch mcconnell did not want this to happen because he did not want republican senators to have to vote no against the president on this. do you see, amanda, how do republican senator react on january 5th, do some of them feel the pressure from this president to do what hawley is doing? >> i think the people that don't want to follow the crocking caucus down the rabbit hole will
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hide behind this irregularity stuff. we tried this. it was disup and dopanded. they did not find anything. this idea that goes unquestioned that somehow people did not follow the laws on the books. there were a bunch of states that expanded mail-in voting because of the pandemic. if people wanted to do something about that, all republican state legislatures should have changed the law before the election. they could have done that. they sat on their hands because they also wanted those mail-in votes. everybody trying to change the rules after the fact is a big giant sham and i can't describe it anything else. amanda carpenter and senat senatosenator senator sanatorisenator san
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♪ sanctuary music it's the final days of the wish list sales event sign and drive off in a new lincoln with zero down, zero due at signing, and a complimentary first month's payment. as this unsettling and anxiety-filled year comes to an end finally, a reminder now of how things used to be. jimmy carter was america's 39th president and used his passion for music to help him win the 1976 election. a new cnn film will chronicle that journey. premiers sunday night 9:00 p.m. eastern time. one of the key figures in it is
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legendary musician and song writer willy nelson. he sat down to talk about president carter and their mutual love of music and life during covid. >> thank you so much for joining us. it is a real pleasure. first of all, how has quarantine been for you? >> well, it's boring, you know. i'd rather be out playing music. >> i'm not sure a lot of people realize. you actually have a long history and friendship with former president carter. you played for them at the white house. you played for them in his hometown, even his nobel peace prize ceremony. how did you first come to know each other? >> well, we ran into each other when he was running for president. i met him before that. i don't know because he's been coming out on my shows for years, him and rozaline come out and they always sing the gospel songs with me. so i'm not sure how long it's been, but it's been quite a while. >> there were a lot of musicians
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in and out of the carter white house. yourself included. also the almond brothers, bob dillon. what was it like back when you would visit? >> it was great. jimmy and i would jog together and hang out. his son and i hung out together at the white house. we had a lot of fun. >> there is an infamous story you wrote about, president carter later confirmed it, about you smoking pot on the roof of the white house. in your book you said it was with a servant because you didn't want to get his son in trouble. the president later came out and said it was his son chip carter. there is a ton of questions that pop into my head about this, but how did this end up happening? >> oh, i don't know. you know, chip and i are buddies, too. he was showing me around the white house. we went into the basement, and they have a bowling alley down there. and we went into the lincoln bedroom and all that good stuff. and then we went up on the roof
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and looked around and that was pretty cool. >> it is pretty cool indeed. i'm kind of curious as to whether it was stuff that you brought or whether it was stuff that he brought, but i won't pry for details. >> i don't remember. >> it doesn't matter. in the end, it doesn't matter. it's all about sharing. >> yeah, absolutely. absolutely. >> i think a lot of americans have an image of president carter cardigan wearing, devout christian which he was and still is, but it is fascinating how he was hanging out with so many music folks, how important it became to him in a way for police political life and opening him up to maybe people that didn't know about him before. >> i think it just showed you how open minded he is and how understanding he is. he knew me. he knew chip, you know, he knew we're just kids running around
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having way too much fun. >> well, i read a rolling stone piece. he once told rolling stone magazine, quote, all the good things i did as president, all the mistakes i made, you can blame half of that on willy. >> i accept. >> you accept. that's kind of a badge of honor, i would think. >> absolutely. absolutely. >> what are you looking forward to most once everything kind of gets back to some semblance of normal. >> i miss playing music. i miss the crowds. there is a great energy exchange whether it's me or anybody on the stage. people drive a long way, pay a lot of money to see somebody clap their hands, and that is healthy, i think. they need music and we need to play it. >> well, willy, it's such an honor to talk to you. i really appreciate your time and i wish you the best. i hope you get back on the road quickly and soon. we need you out there. >> thank you, anderson. i enjoy your show very much.
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>> that's an interview i wanted to do, anderson and willy nelson. here is a reminder of that documentary. jimmy carter: roll and roll president sunday night 9:00 p.m. eastern time. coming up next, a preview of the best way we can imagine of ringing out a new year that leaves us all a little rung out. it was kind of a shock after i started cosentyx. four years clear. real people with psoriasis look and feel better with cosentyx. don't use if you're allergic to cosentyx. before starting, get checked for tuberculosis. an increased risk of infections and lowered ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor about an infection or symptoms, if your inflammatory bowel disease symptoms develop or worsen, or if you've had a vaccine or plan to. serious allergic reactions may occur. learn more at cosentyx.com.
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well, the coronavirus will not prevent the annual tradition of watching anderson and his buddy andy cohen ringing in the new year and imbibing, the joy. well, this is a lot of imbibing that night. let's let anderson and andy describe exactly what's in store. >> you have also introduced me to alcohol, which is i'm not sure a good development. let's take a look at that. >> nicely chilled, though.
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gorgeously chilled. >> cheers! you know what, that felt good. that felt good. >> for real? are you kidding? >> cheers, everybody! cheers everybody at home. >> happy new year, guys. >> thank you. have a great new year. >> thanks, 50. come by the clubhouse soon. >> i didn't want to explode in front of 50 cent. i was trying to seem cool in front of him. >> yeah. >> by the way, that is the tip of the iceberg of what happened last year because last year really was -- it was nice. >> lovely, yeah. >> it was like the '50s or something. >> do you already have disgusting shots lined up for this year? >> for this year? yeah. tequila. a lot of tequila. last year we did i believe do a
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j jager shot. >> i don't want to do that again. >> 8:00 p.m. eastern and we're doing it from time square. >> we will see what time square is like, and we're going to turn this around. >> well, and we're just saying good-bye to a -- you know, good riddan riddance. >> exactly. >> yes. >> a lot of folks are ready for that. well, the news continues tonight. let's hand it right over to "cnn tonight." this is "cnn breaking news". >> and this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon if requester chris cuomo. no $2,000 for you any time soon. president trump claimed he wanted you to have it for stimulus relief, and in the bizarre world that is 2020, even bernie sanders did his own form of retweeting that message. >> we have a very unlikely
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