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it is not over yet as we watch the house floor right now. they're voting on certifying the election. thank you for watching this particular hour with me. i'll be back later on with chris cuomo. in the meantime our breaking news coverage continues on with news coverage continues on with anderson cooper. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com history is being written on both ends of pennsylvania avenue, the president and talk of invoking the 25th amendment. back to business, the house voting on an objection to the electoral vote in arizona. that is happening right now. but it is not back to normal. this after that very same mob incited by a president too cowardly to admit defeat took violent action. there's wreckage physical and otherwise.
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a woman is dead, shot in the chaos. bombs have been discovered as well as a truck loaded with molotov cocktails nearby. and yet despite it all, some lawmaker, as they count the electoral votes still cannot stop thepss from raising the same unfounded objections to the outcome that have fuelled today's insurrection, objections which are based on lies. such as missouri republican josh hawley, for instance, the man who raised his fist, as you see there, today in solidarity with the same people who would later storm his workplace. he is still objecting to the vote and covering his factually unfounded decision in a thin layer of smooth talk. >> so, to those who say that this is just a formality today, an antique ceremony that we've engaged in for a couple of hundred of years, i can't say i agree. i can't say our precedence suggest that. i think it's vital what we do, the opportunity to be heard, to
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register objections is vital because this is the place where those objections are to be heard and dealt with, debated and finally e a finally resolved. in this lawfully means, peacefully without violence, without attacks, without bullets. >> he wants to be president and he thinks this is his play to help. he thought that before the violence. maybe now he's not so sure, but he's sticking with it because, frankly, i guess he has no other options. ted cruz, same thing. he wants to run for president, got beat by trump last time. now he thinks he can try to get as many trump votes as possible as long as he stays in the president's good graces. this is his ticket to do that. to their credit a number of his colleagues were shaken enough to withdraw their planned objections. there's utah republican mitt romney who was never on board
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with this charade at all. >> fairly or not, they'll be remembered in their role in the shameful episode in american history. that will be their legacy. no congressional audit is ever going to convince these voters, particularly when the president will don't to say that the election was stolen. the best way we can show respect for the voters who are upset is by telling them the truth. >> telling them the truth. cnn's phil mattingly joins us now. phil, the house and senate are moving along toward certifying the presidential race. the votes are taking place in the house in arizona. everything that's happening right now is happening in the shadow of this attempted insurrection. what is the lawsuitest you're hearing in terms of what happens next? obviously the senate has already voted. the idea failed in the senate on arizona and it's now going to reconvene with the house.
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they'll then go on to separate again once they debate and vote on pennsylvania. but what happens next? >> yeah, it's a fascinating procedure that i think most lawmaker at this point in time after this day they experienced wish they wouldn't have to go through over the course of the next several hours. what you're look at is the house vote. not unlike the senate, the objectors to the slate of electors in arizona are going to lose this fight by a large margin. arizona will go down. the two chambers will reconvene in joint session and expected to tick through a number of things quickly. vice president in the chair until they get to the state of pennsylvania. josh hawley made clear he will object. one interesting thing though. this goes back to one word you used and i think it's really important at this point in time, and that's shaken. when you talk to law makers, lawmakers who were taken away in undisclosed locations, surrounded by law enforcement
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officials and long guns, who had to be escorted back to the senate floor by the same officers and the senate floor was being guarded by a line of law enforcement officers as well. they're shaken and they want this to end. there's a recognition even amongst some of those who are out initially saying they plan to object. but they just need to get this behind them. in fact, anderson, while there were six who voted for the objection, there were 14 going into this day who were going to object. a number of republicans changed their minds, citing today, citing what they saw, citing, i think, what they recognized, that their words, their actions and how they lined up with the president had very, very real repercussions. and the fact that again this needed to end quickly. timelinewise, while we know that pennsylvania will be objected to, we expect the senate to immediately move to a vote. in other words, yield back the two hours they would be given to debate and then have that vote. that would quicken the process
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over there. the real question is in the house. house republicans want to talk about this. house republicans even after today have made very clear there are a number of them that agree with everything that the president has said or tweeted before his twitter account was locked. and they will likely want to debate or use a good portion of those two hours. one thing is very clear, when you talk to officials who are talking to congressional leaders right now, they want to get this done. they want to get this done as fast as possible. pennsylvania is expected to be the last objection. they're going to try to move as quickly through that objection as possible. >> is there any congress due over the next two weeks to try to stop president trump from inciting more violence. >> i was speaking to a senator about that that got wide eyed and said it's scary. scary was the word from the senator. it was as if it hadn't dawned on them in the wake of today that okay, we still have 15 more days
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to go of this. in terms of what congress can do, there are -- i think you could -- there are people calling for impeachment. in terms of actual remedies over a two-week period i don't think you're going to see much. i think the most interesting shift that has occurred today, and it's a low water mark. it is not a high bar to clear. but you have seen republicans who over the course of the last four years, particularly in the united states senate, would never ever attribute anything that went wrong to president trump. you might know that's what they thought, but they would either dodge the question, not answer the question, or try to pivot somewhere else. we have made very clear what happened today was in large part if not entirely because of president trump. so, that shift, while it's just rhetorical, will be interesting to watch. what will probably be more interesting is whether or not any of their constituents follow them when they, as a number of senators have said, tell the truth about what's going on, tell the truth about what's happening. in terms of tangible, actionable things you're going to see over
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the next couple of weeks, i think most senators and members of o-congress are in a hope and pray mode. >> thank you. as we wait for the next steps, i want to talk to kaitlan collins. now there's discussion or talk with the 25th amendment, talk of high level staff resignations. how real is that? what's going on now? >> reporter: well, it depends on which one you're referencing. the 25th amendment is certainly being discussed. we talked about this before back in the day during the russia investigation. this seems more real at this time. i don't actually have an idea yet if it's actually something they would move forward with, but it's something senior staff is discussing. but the other thing that seems more likely and more imminent is mass resignations from senior officials because several currently right now are considering resigning, including the national security adviser robert o'brien who has closely aligned himself with the president over the last several months, but today came out in defense of the vice president
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and the deputy national security adviser -- >> i want to interrupt. speaker pelosi is speaking. let's listen . we're waiting on her. i'm sorry. i got wrong information. it looks like they're trying to get the last members to vote, kaitlan. please tonight. >> reporter: yeah, we're just waiting to hear from what pelosi is going to say. we've seen several of the president's allies on capitol hill. we should note as this is going on, those allies on capitol hill, the republicans are waiting to see what the people in the administration are going
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to do because basically all day, anderson, the president has been really largely isolated. he's been in the west wing. he was really resistant to sending the national guard out to capitol hill earlier today -- >> did the military contact him? when the military put out a statement specifying they talked to the vice president and other officials, they made no mention of speaking to the president. >> reporter: no one has made clear that the president was involved in that and if he was it wasn't incredibly involved. the press secretary said he was not the one who directed it. that was not what our reporting shows at all. there were conversations about it. the vice president was involved in moving it along. people went to the president. he was very resistant against sending it because he was watching these people, these pro-trump supporters, and he was resistant. >> let's listen to speaker pelosi. >> the nos have it. the objection is not agreed to and without objection a motion to reconsider is laid upon the table.
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the clerk will now notify the senate of the action of this house, informing that body that the house is now ready to proceed in joint session with the counting of the electoral vote for the president and the vice president. to remind both sides of the aisle, during the joint session, there are 11 house republicans, 11 house democrats, 11 house senate democrats, 11 senate republicans, 44 members on the floor. please use the proceedings from your offices. thank you. >> so, now senators are going to come. there's going to be another joint gathering of both in the senate -- >> -- of how serious we take the coronavirus threat and the need for social distancing. please, my colleagues, if you
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are not having or participating in the next part of this, please return to your offices. >> so, senators will then walk over. they will begin again on the electors and then they will eventually take a vote on arizona. sorry, again, kaitlan to interrupt. the president's twitter account has been shut off for at least 12 hours. twitter has done that. his allies and objections in the electoral college have dwindled. do we know what he was doing tonight? the idea he was just watching this mayhem on television, not calling in the national guard, reluctant to call in the national guard because these are his people who he calls patriots, even after witnessing the destruction they wrought and somebody being shot on capitol hill, he talked about them being great people and that he loved them. >> and look how long it took for the national guard to get there. you know, this is a president
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who in every other situation that we've seen play out with protests, with riots over the last year, the president has been eager to send in the national guard. and he has criticized governors if they've refused to do so very publicly. yet today he was the one who was resistant to do so. it was around 1:30 this afternoon we started to see people breaching the barricades, assaulting police officers, getting pepper sprayed. it took a lot of effort to get the president to not only put out a statement saying go home. before he was saying they were peaceful even though nothing we were watching was peaceful. it's because of how the president is viewing this pro-trump mob that was fuelled by his lies about the election going there. and he was -- someone described it to me as he was borderline enthusiastic because they were going and they were disrupting
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this certification that we're still waiting on now. that was the president's ultimate goal that he wanted today. he wanted a disruption. now we've gotten one that has completely shaken washington, including several of his own staffers and allies on the hill. >> let's just be frank. if it had been thousands of black people marching on the capitol, if it had been thousands of muslims marching on the capitol, storming barricades, breaking into the capitol causing mayhem, the idea that the president would have just watched it all on tv is, i mean, absurd. the difference in the police response -- >> reporter: and defended them, said he loved them, said they were special. there was the last tweet that the president sent that has really freaked people out. he said this is what you get when you steal an election, basically. of course this election wasn't
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stolen, but he was defending what we saw today. there are going to be a lot of people who criticize white house saffirers and coming out at the 11th hour to resign or voice their objections to the president. but seeing it today has actually unsettled people and they are genuinely freaked out over the president's reaction to this and how he has responded to what the rest of us have witnessed. >> and frankly what we witnessed long before this when we saw armed thugs storming the michigan state house threatened elected leaders there, the president gave them an at aboys. the president was cheering them on again, referring to them as great people, just as he did neonazis in charlottesville. i understand there are a few people resigning, they say, on principle in the waning days of an administration that they're going to lose their jobs in anyway. but we have seen this before. this is not new. this is not the first time. maybe it just happened a few blocks closer to them this time and suddenly they felt a sense
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of fear, so now they're acting. that doesn't speak very well with them, my opinion. i appreciate all your reporting on this difficult day. joining us, scott jennings, former special assistant to george w. bush, and carl bernstein. we also have our panel on law enforcement because there's a lot of questions about why wasn't -- why were protesters/rioters, insurrectionists, domestic terrorists able to penetrate the capitol like this? why were there not preparations like there were for black lives matter this summer. should president trump remain in office for the next two weeks? >> i've been wrestling with this question all day. he's clearly violated his oath of office to preserve, protect and defend the constitution to the best of my ability. no one could argue with a straight face he's preserving and defending it. it's the opposite of defending it. it's under attack. if you want to look strictly at
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his oath, he's violating it. you could make an argument he violated it this weekend when he called the georgia secretary of state as well, which seems like a lifetime ago. i don't know the answer. i know there are things being discussed. i don't know what the right thing to do is. tonight he doesn't seem like, to me, based on the tweets that were removed, that he learned any lesson after this got out of hand today. this is what you get when you steal an election. he didn't learn anything when this happened today. if that's going to be his attitude for the next two weeks, i'm very fearful of what other insurrection type activities. and that's exactly what it was. it was an insurrection, and it should be labelled as such. i can't believe more people haven't been arrested for storming the capitol of the united states. and i can't frankly believe there are still republicans tonight siding with the people who stormed the capitol by voting for those objections, siding with the people who are wearing animal pelts and horns and scaling down the walls of the u.s. senate. it's absurd and it's a stain on this president, on our party, on
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our country. and i cannot believe what i saw on my television today and had to explain to my television at home. >> i know trump supporters who were good and decent people who are raising questions about those weren't really trump supporters storming the capitol. the guy wearing horns showed up at another demonstration. that doesn't look like a trump supporter. it's unbelievable how already they are trying to rewrite what we all witnessed with our eyes. collin, do you believe? i mean, do you believe the 25th amendment can be invoked? i guess it would have to come from the vice president and the cabinet. not sure any of them really have the backbone for that. or do they? >> i think at this point there is the backbone to do something because there's recognition that the president of the united states is dangerously unstable. the vice president apparently recognizes it according to people on the hill. look, for three weeks now, people around the president of
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the united states have been trying to talk him down, to restrain him. he has been acting, in many of those people's words, like a mad man and a december pit. we are in an unprecedented dangerous situation, with an out of control unstaubl president of the united states. and there is now recognition in the cabinet, in the white house staff, on capitol hill among republicans that our president of the united states is a danger not just to the national security of the united states but really to all of our democratic institutions and as well he does have military abilities. this began n some ways, three weeksing weeks ago, maybe four. there was an attempt by the president that he had to be talked down from, stared down by the generals and some people at the department of defense for an action that he wanted to take abroad that was regarded as reckless and dangerous.
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and that set off alarm bells. and those alarm bells have been going off day after day after day as he's become more irrational, as he's become more unhinged. they've seen a lot of it before but never so consistently and so out of control and out of touch with reality as now. we have a national emergency with an unstable, dangerous president. and the consensus is among those near him something has to be done to restrain him and isolate him. >> kaitlan, who is still left in the white house around the president? who interacts with him? mark meadows is still there, right? >> reporter: yeah. >> god help us all, peter navarro is still there. who else? >> reporter: well, a lot of those people are still there, but the president has not been listening to him, to any of them. lately it has been the rudy giulianis, the sidney powells -- >> oh, my god, the kraken. wow? >> yes.
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even though they've distanced themselves from sidney powell, the president has fully embraced all of her ideas. he brought up half of them on that call with the georgia secretary of state. it's not just who's around. the president is not listening to people. he has met with the vice president several times over the last few days about what today was going to look like. even today he made a last minute appeal to pence believing he could bully him into going up to capitol hill and doing something he doesn't have the authority to do. he just does not have that ability. but the president would not internalize that. he would not accept that. so, i think it's the president being completely resistant to that. and i think it is the concern about what his time left in office could look like that is why you're hearing those conversations about the 25th amendment because basically it's been so desperate, all of his attempts. after witnessing what happened today and how the president responded, i think that is what has started these conversations
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in ernst. >> also this is the legacy of the president. the shambles is the legacy of the president. that and the deaths of hundreds of thousands of americans and the illness, the sickness and the devastation, the economic devastation. it's his legacy. it's his children's legacy. it's the legacy of ivanka trump, jared kushner, donny trump, jr., who spent the morning talking tough in front of this crowd egging them on, just as the president did, as eric trump did and la rah trump did. did you see any of the trump children scurrying around with them? no, they hot footed it out. i think lara trump flew out immediately after the rally. i don't know where d.j.t.j. was. i don't know if he was hanging out with the major formerly known as rudy giuliani who's now just a shadow of that person in some hotel room somewhere watching. but this is their legacy.
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kaitlan, appreciate it. paul bernstein, scott jennings as well i appreciate your sentiments. i want to turn to one of the images we saw today, one of two members taking cover on the house floor as democratic protesters tried to get over. i appreciate both of you being with us after the day you have had. congressman crow you said you haven't been in a situation like that since you were an army ranger serving in iraq and afghanistan. can you take me back to the moment you realized what was going on? you were in the gallery looking over this and basically you all were trapped there. >> yeah, hi. i realized shortly after speaker pelosi and vice president pence were evacuated from the floor and then they evacuated the members on the floor from the floor and they started to move us towards the doorway. but then they stopped and they started locking the doors and
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barricading the doors. there was no way out for us. the rioters, the mob had deacceptd descended the house chamber. and the few remaining police officers that were in the chamber with us had their guns drawn and started stacking up against the doors and windows. we were in trouble. and we started to think about what we needed to do. it was the first time in many, many years since i was an army ranger that i thought i might have to fight my way out. >> congresswoman wilde, when the police instructed you to get down as they were drawing their weapons, what went through your mind. in this photo -- it is a very dramatic photo. >> well, thank you anderson. i had never had experience in combat and i suddenly felt like i was thrust into combat and it was terrifying. my heart was pounding. we had just finished climbing around the gallery to try to get
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to the doorway to exit. and all of a sudden that door was barred too because some further disturbances. so, it was -- all i can tell you is that it was the most panicy moment of my life. >> congressman crow, you think about what might have happened had their not been security on the door, had some of these people gotten in. there's no telling what a mob like this can do. you know better than anybody. you've been in -- on frontline positions. a mob, you know, is an incredible -- it's like an organism. i mean, people -- people do things in a mob that they wouldn't ordinarily do if it was just an individual. i mean, it is -- it's unbelievable this happened at all. did you -- how long were you there after this photo was taken? how long did it last before you realized -- before you were able to get out?
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>> we were stuck in the chamber i would say for about 15 or 20 minutes without a way out. and you're right, anderson, this was an unspeakable tragedy and travesty and an enormous security failure. there are major questions about how this happened in the first place. as you've been talking about tonight, had this been a group of black lives matter protesters or other folk, i think it would have been handled very differently. massive security failure. i think an awful lot of people should lose their jobs over this, over what has happened. but that said, a mob is extremely dangerous. and we're actually fortunate that it wasn't even far worse than it was because they could have very well been a lot worse. >> i read today the head of the department of homeland security, chad wolf, is out in the middle east somewhere on some sort of farewell tour. the idea of homeland security knowing what is happening in the united states in these stressful last few weeks in the desperate
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days of this criminal administration, it's amazing to me that he has just flown the coop and, i don't know what he's doing over there. congressman jason crow, i appreciate talking to you tonight. congresswoman susan wild as well. i'm glad you are both assault with a firearm. the president could not bring himself to condemn the mob. he said he loved them. they were great. president-elect, however, made it plain. >> what we're seeing are a small number of oextremists dedicated to lawlessness. this is not dissent. it's disorder. it's chaos. it borders on sedition, and it must end now. like so many other americans, i am genuinely shocked and saddened that our nation, so long a beacon of light for
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democracy, has come to such a dark moment. >> a dark moment indeed. arlette saenz joins us from wilmington, delaware. any reaction from the biden transugs team to the reports that some in the president's cabinet are thinking of invoking the 25th amendment or there's some discussion of that? >> anderson, we haven't gotten any direct reaction to those reports that some members of the cabinet may be considering invoking the 25th amendment. part of that is because these are things that are still underway. you don't always see the biden transition weigh in so early in the process. but also biden's aides simply want to let his words from earlier today stand where he directly and passionately spoke about what was happening and unfolding at the capitol, calling it an insurrection, saying that the capitol was under siege. and he also talked about how words of a president matter.
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that is something that you hear biden go to time and time again over the course of the campaign as he kind of talked about some of the division in this country. and you heard the president-elect urging president trump to tell people engaging in these acts at the capitol to stop. it speaks to the president-elect's belief in the power of the presidency. and what you saw from him today was an attempt to fill this leadership vacuum as the current president was not forcefully condemning what was happening. the president-elect by taking it into his own hands to offer that calm and sense of unity that he believes needs to be projected as he's set to take office in two weeks. >> i appreciate it. we are going to take a quick break as we wait for joint session to reconvene. a closer look at why these insurrectionists faced so little
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from law enforcement. where was law enforce. . many were not in full riot gear, were not prepared for this. did the best they could with what they had. former police chiefs of the capitol and district join us along with andrew mccabe, tim neff tally takes on this moment. now, he uses therabreath healthy gums oral rinse with clinically-proven ingredients and his gum problems have vanished. (crowd applauding) therabreath, it's a better mouthwash. at walmart, target and other fine stores.
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it is hard to fathom such an
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absence earlier today as insurrectionists break windows to get inside the capitol. why were police so unprepared and even afterwards, why were so few arrested in the mayhem? was the treatment these people received seems far different from what it would have been had it been even the police in some of the protests we saw this summer. do we know why law enforcement was caught so off guard? >> we don't honestly, anderson? this was telegraphed, as you know. there were protests here planned today, thousands of trump supporters came out and trump said and you played the tape earlier on your broadcast and said we're going to march on the capitol. go tell them how angry you are. they did just that. and hundreds broke into the capitol. hundreds broke through those barriers. when you see the videos, police were clearly overwhelmed.
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they didn't have the man or woman power there to resist, just did not seem to be the planning for the intel. don't even call it intelligence because it was broadcast along the airways this is where they were going. it's truly remarkable. and remember the capitol has been attacked before. in 1998 there was a shooting there. they redesigned the entire structure of the place. they dug an enormous visitor center underground to push people through in effect so you could control entry into the building. today remarkable accounts of how in the midst of this people who were fleeing to safe rooms in that visitor center with reinforced doors, that was infiltrated by those hundreds of protesters as well. so, failure at multiple levels. i find it amazing as i watch what is an impressive security presence right now hours after
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it happened. we've been seeing dozens of police vehicles, hundreds of police officers go by circling the capitol. fine. that's all fine. but where were they earlier today? why have we got heard from the leadership of the capitol police? i mean 26 arrests on capitol grounds when you had hundreds of people breaking into the capitol itself is paltry by any measure. and you saw that the vast majority of those folks were allowed to leave the building, no problem, nothing. it's remarkable. and i've got to tell you, anderson, i've covered violence. i've covered terror attacks around the world and in this country. but to see it happen in the capitol here and with a -- just a flailing police response -- >> well, you think back -- >> questions need to be answered. >> you think back to when president trump said he wanted to walk over in front of a church and hold a bible up
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upside-down and was very willing and able to clear out an entire park full of peaceful protesters very aggressively in a matter of seconds. you know, if militarized, well-armed and well-protected law enforcement officials from a variety of federal agencies, i don't understand why there wasn't preparation in advance of this. we're taking another look just so you know at the house floor. senators walking in. let's just take that full screen for a moment . we know that the movement -- the move on arizona has failed in the senate. it has failed in the house.
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they will now -- as we continue to watch the senators coming in, phil mattingly, what do we expect now? >> continue the process, a process that usually every four years doesn't last more than an hour. you're going to start ticking through the next states, the states that follow the state of arizona. we'll go to arkansas and move on
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through those states. it will be -- this feels like about ten years ago now, anderson, but once the senators finish filing in and vice president pence gavels the joint session back into session, it will do what we initially saw with the states before arizona, where he gets -- receives the electors, he asks if there's any objections. we know there's not going to be an objection to arkansas. it will be accepted and they will move on. they will move on state-by-state alphabetically until there is an objection where both a house member and a senator pair up in writing to agree to the objection. the only one we know that's coming right now is pennsylvania. there will be other states i'm told that house republicans plan to object to. it won't matter as long as they don't have a senator to pair up with. as of this point, the only senator who has stated they plan to object on anything further is josh hawley on the state of pennsylvania. >> and any sense of just how long this entire process may
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take? >> yeah, it's basically the question i've been asking everyone in my rolodex. i feel like it's been the question that a lot of members and staff have been asking me. one thing to keep in mind i think has become abundantly clear over the last couple hours is members of both parties, even those who plan to object, they want to get this done and want to get this done quickly. they've set up a process in the u.s. senate that even when josh hawley objects to pennsylvania and they recess to chambers to debate, they will not utilize the two hours of debate at all. they will head back into the roll call vote. there are house republicans who want to talk. who want their five minutes, president wa want to say whatever thoept say. they may take out the rest of the two hours. the rest of the process when you take out the debates and the roll call process, particularly in the house because of how cautious they are with covid
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issues, it can move along pretty quickly. and i think you're going to see over the course of the next 30 to 45 minutes they're going to move through the non-objection states very, very quickly. the big outstanding issue right now i think in terms of if you want to know when this is going to end, you need to know how long the house is going to debate the pennsylvania objection before they vote. once that's done and as long as there are no other objections where there's a house member and a senator that agree in writing on those objections, they'll get through the end of the alphabet on the states and have the final vote on certification. >> we're going to bring in tim neff tally. as a historian, how do you see today and what we're witnessing? >> today was the first time in our history that a president has opposed the peaceful transfer of power. we've never seen this before. the president's actions both in insighting the insurrection and didn't ask people to leave the
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capitol is tantamount to encouraging violence and that makes him the first president ever to encourage violence. >> the two houses retired to consider separately and decide upon the vote of the state of arizona to which a rejection has been filed. the secretary of the senate will report the action of the senate. >> united states order that the senate by a vote of six ayes to 93 nays rejects the rejection to the votes in arizona. >> the clerk of the house will report the action of the house. >> order that the house of
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representatives rejects the objections to the electoral vote of the state of arizona. >> pursuant to the law, chapter 1 of title 3 of the united states code, because the two houses have not sustained the objection, the original certificate submitted by the state of arizona will be counted as provied therein. the tellers will now record and announce the vote of the state of arkansas for president and vice president in accordance with the action of the two houses. this certificate from arkansas, the parliamentarians advise me is the only certificate of vote from the state that is reported from the state. that is an exed to authority of state reported to appoint or ascertain electors. >> mr. president, the certificate of the electoral
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vote of the state of arkansas seems to be in regular -- seems to be regular, in form, and authentic. it appears to be therefore donald j. trump of the state of florida received six votes for president and michael r. pence of the state of indiana received six votes for vice president. >> are there any objections to counting the certificate of vote for the state of arkansas that the tellers verified appears to be regular, of form and authentic? >> hearing none. >> hearing none. this certificate from california is the only certificate of vote from the state that purports to be returned from the state and an exed to it a certificate from the authority of that state purporting to a point or ascertain electors. >> mr. president, the certificate of electoral vote of the state of california, i would say the great state of california, seems to be regular,
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in form and authentic. and it appears there from that joseph r. biden, jr. of the state of delaware received 55 votes for president and kamala harris of california received 55 votes for vice president. >> are there any objections to counting the state of california that the teller has verified appears to be regular in form, authentic. hearing none, this certificate from colorado the parliamentarians is the only certificate of vote from the state that purports to be from the state. and reporting to a point and ascertained electors. >> mr. president the certificate of the electoral vote of state of colorado seems to be regular, of form, and authentic and it appears joseph r. biden of the state of delaware received 9 votes for president and kamala
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d. harris of the state of california received 9 votes for vice president. >> are there any objections to counting the certificate of vote to the state of colorado that the teller appears to be regular, of form and authentic. >> hearing none. >> hear none. this certificate from connecticut is the only certificate of vote that per ports to be a return from the state and has annexed to it a certificate from a authority of that state to ascertain electors. >> mr. president, the certificate of the electoral vote of the state of connecticut seems to be regular in form and authentic and it appears there from that joseph r. biden jr. of the state of delaware receives 7 votes for president and kamala d. harris of the state of california receives 7 votes for vice president.
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>> are there any objections to counting the vote of the sert cal of the vote of california? >> hearing none. >> hearing none, this certificate from delaware, the parliamentarians advise me is the only certificate of vote from the state that purports to be a return from the state and that has annexed to it a certificate from the authority of the state purporting to a point and ascertain electors. >> mr. president, the certificate of the electoral vote of the state of delaware seems to be regular in form and authentic, and it appears that joseph r. biden jr. of the state of delaware received three votes for president and kamala d. harris of the state of california received three votes for vice president. >> are there any objections to counting the certificate of the vote of the state of delaware that the tellers verify appears to be regular in form and authentic?
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hearing none. this certificate from the district of columbia is the only certificate of vote that purports to be a return from the district and annexed to be a authority from ascertained electors. >> mr. president, the certificate of the electoral vote of the district of columbia seems to be regular in form and authentic and it appears therefrom that joseph r. biden of the state of delaware received three votes for president and kamala d. harris from the state of california received three votes for vice president. >> are there any objections to counting the certificate of vote of the district of columbia that the teller has verified appears to be regular in form and aauthentic. hearing none. this certificate from florida has annex to it a certificate of the state purporting to a point or ascertain electors.
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>> mr. president, the certificate of the electoral vote of the state of florida seems to be regular in form and authentic. and it appears therefrom that donald j. trump of the state of florida received 29 votes for president and michael r. pence of the state of indiana received 29 votes for vice president. >> are there any objections to counting the certificate of vote from the state of florida that the teller verifies to be regular in form and authentic? >> hearing none. >> hearing none, this certificate from georgia, the parliamentarians advise me is the only certificate of vote from that state that purports to be a return from the state and has annex to it a certificate of the state purporting to a point or ascertain electors. >> mr. president, the certificate of the electoral vote of the state of georgia
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seems to be regular in form and authentic, and it appears, therefrom, that joseph r. biden, jr., of the state of delaware received 16 votes for president and kamala d. harris of the state of california received 16 votes for vice president. >> what purpose does the gentleman from georgia rise. >> mr. president, myself, members of the georgia delegation and some 74 and my republican colleagues and i object to the electoral votes from the state of georgia on the grounds that the election conducted on november 3rd was faulty and fraudulent due to unilateral actions by the secretary of state to unlawfully change the state's election process without approval from the general assembly and thereby setting the stage for an unprecedented amount of fraud and irregularities. and i have signed the objection myself. >> sections 15 and 17 of title 3
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of the united states code require that any objection be presented in writing and signed by a member of the house of representatives and a senator. is the objection in writing and signed by a member and a senator? >> mr. president, prior to the actions and events of today, we did, but following the events of today, it appears that some senator versus withdrawn their objection. [ applause ] >> in that case, the objection cannot be entertained. section 18 of title 3 of the united states code. this certificate from hawaii, the parliamentarians advise me is the only certificate of vote
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from the state that purports to be a return from the state and has annexed to it a certificate from a authority from that state purporting a point or ascertain electors. >> mr. president, the certificate of electoral vote of the state of hawaii seems to be and it appears, there from, that joseph r. biden jr., received four votes for president. and kamala d. harris of the state of california received four votes for vice president. >> to the state of hawaii appears to be regular, informed, and authentic? hearing none, this certificate from idaho, the parliamentarians advise me is the only certificate of vote from the state that purports to be return from the state and from authority of the state purporting to appoint or ascertain electors.
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>> mr. president, the certificate of the electoral vote of the state of idaho seems to be regular, inform, and authentic. and it appears, therefrom, that donald j. trump from the state of florida received four votes for president. and michael r. pence of the state of indiana received four votes for vice president. >> are there any objections to counting of the certificate of vote from the state of idaho? that the teller appears to be regular, inform, and authentic? hearing none, this certificate from illinois, the parliamentarians advise me, is the only certificate of oath from that state that purports to be a return from the state. and that as annexed to it, certificate from a authority of that state purporting to appoint and ascertain electors. >> mr. president, the certificate of the electoral vote of the state of illinois seems to be regular, inform, and authentic. and it appears, therefrom, that joseph r. biden jr. of the state of delaware received 20 votes
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for president. and kamala d. harris of the state of california received 20 votes for vice president. >> are there any objections to counting the certificate of the vote of the state of illinois that the teller has verified appears to be in regular form, and authentic? hearing none. this certificate from indiana, the parliamentarians advise me, is the only certificate of vote from that state that purports to be a return from the state. and that as annexed to it, a certificate from the authority of that state, purporting to appoint and ascertain electors. >> mr. president, the certificate of the electoral vote of the state of indiana seems to be regular, in form, and authentic. and it appears, therefrom, that donald j. trump of the state of florida received 11 votes for president, and michael r. pence of the state of indiana received 11 votes for vice president.
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>> are there any objections to counting the certificate of the vote of the state of indiana that the teller has verified? appears to be regular, in form, and authentic. hearing none. this certificate from iowa, the parliamentarians advise, is the only certificate of vote from the state that purports to be a return from the state. that has annexed to it, a ser tich tis certificate. >> mr. president, seems to be regular, in form, and authentic. and it appears, therefrom, that donald j. trump of the state of florida received six votes for president. and michael r. pence of the state of indiana received six votes for vice president. >> are there any objections to counting the certificate of vote of the state of iowa that the teller has verified? appears to be regular and authentic. hearing none. this certificate from kansas,
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the parliamentarians advise me, is the only certificate that purports to be return from the state. purporting to appoint or ascertain electors. >> mr. president, the certificate of the electoral vote of the state of kansas seems to be regular, in form, and authentic. it appears, therefrom, that donald j. trump of the state of florida received six votes for president. and michael r. pence of the state of indiana received six votes for vice president. >> are there any objections to counting the certificate of vote of the state of kansas that the teller has verified appears to be regular, in form, and authentic? hearing none. this certificate from the commonwealth of kentucky, the parliamentarians advise me, is the only certificate of vote from that state that purports to be a return from the state. as annexed to it, a certificate of the authority of the state purporting to appoint or ascertain electors. >> mr. president, the certificate of the electoral vote of the commonwealth of
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kentucky seems to be regular, in form, and authentic. and it appears therefrom, that donald j. trump of the state of florida received eight votes for president, and michael r. pence of the state of indiana received eight votes for vice president. >> are there any objections to counting the certificate of the vote of the commonwealth of kentucky that the teller has verified appears to be regular, in form, and authentic? hearing none. this certificate from louisiana, the parliamentarians advise me, is the only certificate of vote from that state. it purports to be a return from the state has annexed to it, a certificate from the authority of the state purporting to appoint or ascertain electors. >> mr. president, the certificate of the electoral vote of the state of louisiana seems to be regular, in form, and authentic and appears, therefrom, that donald j. trump of the state of florida received eight votes for president. and michael r. pence of the state of indiana received eight
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votes for vice president. >> are there any objections to counting the certificate of the vote of the state of louisiana? that the teller has verified to be regular, in form, and authentic. hearing none. this certificate from maine, the parliamentarians advise, is the only certificate of vote from that state that purports to be a return from the state. that has annexed to it a certificate to authority from the state purporting to appoint or ascertain electors. >> mr. president, the certificate of the electoral vote of the state of maine seems to be regular, in form, and authentic. it appears, therefrom, joseph r. biden of the state of delaware received three votes for president. and donald j. trump of the state of florida received one vote for president. and kamala d. harris of the state of california received three votes for vice president. and michael r. pence of the state of indiana received one vote for vice president. >> are there any objections to
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counting the certificate of vote of the state of maine that the teller has verified appears to be regular, in form, and authentic? hearing none. this certificate from maryland, the parliamentarians advise me, is the only certificate of vote from that state, purports to be a return from the state. has annexed to it, a certificate from the authority of the state, purporting to appoint or ascertain electors. >> mr. president, the certificate of the electoral vote of the state of maryland seems to be regular, in form, and authentic. and it appears, therefrom, that joseph r. biden jr. of the state of delaware received ten votes for president. and kamala d. harris of the state of california received ten votes for vice president. >> are there any objections to counting the certificate of the vote of the state of maryland that the teller has verified appears to be regular, in form, and authentic? hearing none. this certificate from the commonwealth of massachusetts,
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the parliamentarians advise, is the only certificate of vote from that state. purports to be a return from the state and has annexed to it, a certificate from an authority of the state, purporting to appoint or ascertain electors. >> mr. president, the certificate of the electoral vote of the commonwealth of massachusetts seems to be regular, in form, and authentic. and it appears, therefrom, that joseph r. biden jr., of the state of delaware, received 11 votes for president. and kamala d. harris, of the state of california, received 11 votes for vice president. >> are there any objections to counting the certificate of the commonwealth of massachusetts the tellers advise appeared to be regular, in form, and authentic. hearing none. this certificate from michigan, the parliamentarians advise, is the only certificate of vote from that state. that purports to be a return from the state and has annexed to it, a certificate of the authority of the state purporting to appoint or
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ascertain electors. >> mr. president, the certificate of the electoral vote of the state of michigan seems to be regular, in form, and authentic. and it appears, therefrom, that joseph r. biden jr., of the state of delaware, received 16 votes for president. and kamala d. harris, of the state of california, received 16 votes for vice president. >> for what reason does the gentle-lady from georgia rise? >> i along with 70 of my colleagues object on the ground that the error rate proceeds the rate allowed at .0008%. and that the people, who signed affidavits at risk of perjury, their voices have not been heard in a court of law. >> section 15 and 17 of title 3
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of the u.s. code require that any objection be presented in writing, and signed by a member of the house of representatives and a senator. is the objection in writing and signed by a member and a senator? >> the objection is writing, not signed by a senator. >> in that case, the objection cannot be upheld. [ applause ] are there any further objections to counting the certificate of the vote from the state of michigan? the certificate the teller has verified, appears to be regular, in form, and authentic. hearing no further objections, this certificate from minnesota, the parliamentarians advise me, is the only certificate of vote from that state that purports to be a return from the state. annexed to it, certificate of authority from the state purporting to appoint and ascertai