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crises. after the insurrection, the president is on the verge of becoming the only president to be impeached twice. today he is announcing he will not attend joe biden's inauguration, one of the most symbolic acts for a peaceful transfer of power, which has not been done in more than a century. just three other presidents chose to not attend their succeed succeed successors' inauguration. "wall street journal" is calling for the president to quick. more than a dozen of his official are leaving, including emain chow and education secretary betsie devos. democrats are threatening impeachment. moments ago nancy pelosi told her caucus there's more support than than there was for the first time he was impeached. cnn is told that articles of
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impeachment could be brought to the house as early as next week. >> the house, if they cuome together -- >> before i begin, let me say two things. one, when this is all over, i will take questions, when we finish today ace announcements, but let me begin by expressing my deep sympathy for the family of capitol officer sicknick, who has died in the line of duty. our sympathies and concerns go out for his family, and the people responsible should be held accountable. and they will be. but today, today i am pleased to announced the latest members of our economic team. with their announcement, i'm
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proud to announce we have finished naming our cabinet. saving the best for last here. 24 outstanding women and men who will get our country moving again, and they're going to restore trust in our government again, and all of whom are ready on day one to do their job. this is a cabinet that i promised you and i fulfilled that promise, it looks like america. it taps into the full range of talent we have in our nation. we have immense talent. this will be the first cabinet ever that is evenly composed as women as men in the cabinet. the first cabinet ever where the majority of people of color occupying this cabinet. it has more than a dozen history-making appointments, including the first woman secretary of treasury, first african-american defense
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secretary, the first openly gay cabinet member, and the first native american cabinet secretary. we're also on track he named a record 50 high-level appointments subject to president confirmation, more than any president elected has don't. we have started our job. it's my expect and hope that the senate will move to confirm these nominations promptly and fairly. it's especially for the case of for the naeem niece of state, treasury, homeland security. i not only na i nominated them back in november. given what we've been through the last few days, given the threats and the risks of this world, they should be confirmed as close to january 20th as possible. there should be no vacancy at state, defense, and homeland security. and we will remain in this dark
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winter of pandemic, and with the economic crisis that's deepening, and we have no time to lose with regard to the entirety. considering the december jobs report released today, the anxiety and fear of the women and men out there, reminds me of when president obama and i were sworn in during the great recession of 2009. the december jobs -- this december jobs report shows millions of americans are still hurting through no fault of their own we lost another 140,000 jobs, the first negative jobs report since the height of the pandemic in the spring. more people, more people have just lost a job while many have been out of work for a long time. the ongoing gap between black, latino unemployment remains much too large, that gap.
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in many ways, the jobs report is a pandemic report. with the pandemic raging people are losing work and losing hope. the hospital industry, restaurants and bars lost more than -- sk372,000 jobs. state and local governments similaring jobs. 20,000 local educators lost their jobs just last month. in the midst of this pandemic there are millions out of work, unable to pay their rent or mortgage. they're waiting in line for hours to get food from a food bank. think of this -- the united states of america, people are lined up for miles in their automobiles, waiting to get a meal to put on the table to feed their family. they're left staring at the ceiling, so many unable to
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sleep, worried, will they have their health insurance? wondering if they'll be okay. the jobs report shows we need to provide more immediate relief for working families and businesses now. now. not just to help to get to the other side of this painful crisis, but a larger purpose -- to avoid a broader economic cost that exists out there, that will happen due to long-term unemployment, hunger, homelessness and business failings. by acting, the vast majority of leading economists suggest that's what we need to do to revive the economy. in fact economic research confirming that with conditions like the crisis today, especially with such low-interest rates, taking immediate action even with deficit finances, will help the economy long and shorm term, reduce scars in the workforce, increase growth, and reduce our
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national debt burden. failure to act will have the opposite effect. i've said before, the bipartisan covid relief package passed in december was an important step, but just a down payment. next week, i will be here with you all laying out the groundwork for the next covid relief package that meets the critical moment that we face at the moment. for example, vaccines give us hope, but the roll-out has been a travesty. this will be the greatest operational challenge, the greatest operational challenge we will ever face as a nation. we're going to need billions of dollars to get the vaccines from a vial into someone's arm, to vaccination for millions of americans. we're also going to need tens of millions of dollars to help reopen our schools and reopen them safely. state, local, tribal communities needs tens of billions to keep
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educators, police officers, firefighters and other first responders and public health workers on the job. we need more direct relief flowing to families, small businesses, including finishes the job of getting people the $2,000 in relief direct payment. $600 is simply not enough. we'll have to choose between pays rent, putting food on the table, keeping the lights on. i also hope the democratic control of the house and senate will raise the odds of prompt action on increasing the minimum wage. i've long said that we need to reward work, not just wealth, in this country. people in both parties recognize it's time to raise the minimum wage so hard-working people earn at least $15 an hour minimum. no one should work as millions are doing today 40 hours a week at a job and still live below the poverty line.
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they're entitled to at least a $15 minimum wage per hour. folks, the big focus will also be on small businesses, and how to correct the current administration's failures to get relief to main street small businesses that are most in need. mom-and-pop stores are the backbone of the economy, and they're also, as you all know, the glue that holds communities together. it holds them together. but today more than one in four small businesses are not even. at least 400,000 are closed for good, and as a month goes by, a third of black-owned businesses and more than a fifth of latino businesses and more nan a quarter of native american owned business have less than a month in reserves to cover experiences. previous rounds of economic relief last year helped millions
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of small businesses stay afloat and keep employees on the payroll. but there are clear problems. black and brown owned small businesses have less access to that relief. mom-and-pop shops were often the last in line while big well-connected businesses jumped in front of the line and got more relief and got it faster. at every turn, this administration, the trump administration has undermined accountability for every tax dollar spent, weakening oversight, firing inspector general, so it's no surprise that an independent watch dog found that tens of thousands of ineligible companies received relief they should not have, including from fraud and abuse siphoning off support for small businesses that are -- that need it so badly. but the good news is that the relief package passed last month
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provides additional aid to small businesses and workers. as i said from the beginning, the need to make sure future relief reaches who need it, we need -- potentially while the current administration is in office. they may send out money that they won't have any control over. buzz for what we have to control -- need to control over -- i want to be very clear my priorities for distributing this emergency aid swiftly and equitably. our focus will be on small businesses on main street that aren't wealthy and well connected, that are facing real economic hardships through no fault of their own. our priority will be black, latino, asian and native american owned businesses, women owned businesses, and finally access to resources we need to reopen and rebuild. we're going to make a concerted
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effort for small business and lou-income communities that face systemic barriers to relief. think of the mom-and-pop owners who can't pick up the phone and call a banker, doesn't have a lawyer, an accountant, to help them through in complicated process to know if they even qualify, or who simply didn't know where this relief is available in the first place. we went through this at a time -- when we brought detroit back, and when we saw in this morning's jobs report, restaurants, bars and hospitality industry have been slammed by this virus. we're going to direct relief to those businesses and others that have been so badly hit, hit the hardest. we owe them that support to help them get through the other side of this crisis, and i promise you, we will investigate and
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prosecutor waste and fraud in these programs so that the money goes to the company that is deserve it. a , and will use it to help communities. and the president, my president, president obama, asked me to handle and implement the recovery act, we invested more than $800 billion in our economy to help recover and rebuild less than two thirds of 1% of waste and abuse. we know how to do this. from day one, this administration will work to ensure the small businesses and financial institutions in every community understand the rules for these programs, the resources available to them, where they can turn for technical assistance if they need it. we will have navigators who will help guide them through each step of this process until the
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money they need is in their bank account, and to the lenders participating in these programs, you should move quickly without delay, to begin extending relief. i urge you not to -- to not abuse these funds -- excuse me -- not to disburse these funds in the same way you have in the past. here amy commitment. in return, we will make our expectations of you crystal clear, the banks, so you can quickly and equitably deliver relief to the communities you have served, unlike what's been hang in many places. the bottom line is we're in the midst of the most economic -- unequal economic and jobs crisis in modern history. congress needs to act as quickly as possible on all the issues i just laid out. that's how we can contain the pandemic, build back better,
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with an economy that works for all americans. this is a team that's going to help get that done. for secretary of commerce, i nom nay governor gina raimondo from rhode island, a daughter of a working-class family, who knows what it's like when parents' factory jobs are shipped overseas. she never took her parents' sacrifices for granted. she always remembered where she became from. she created jobs on main street and brought businesses back from the edge. she became a state treasurer, who invested in local communities and took on financial predators, and today she's one of the most effective forward-thinking governors in the united states of america, the first woman to ever lead the ocean state. she created an innovative loan program that helped women and minority owned businesses and access to capital that wasn't
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always available to them. she's worked with employers to design skill training programs so local workers would be equipped to take the good paying jobs in their own communities. she's put rhode island on the path to achieving 100% renewable energy, and she'll be a key player to helping position the united states as a global leader in the clean energy economy. she knows what her fellows governors, democrats and republicans alike, you are dealing with the front lines of the economic crisis they are facing and how we can all partner together as one nation to build back better. i'm honored, governor, that you are willing to join the administration, and i'm looking forward to working with you. for secretary of labor, i nomination a good friend and stand-up guy, marty walsh of boston. the only down side, they're not
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from may i don't, but from galway. he was born and raised in dorchester. i know him. tough as nails, diagnosed with cancer at age 7, beat it at 11. joined the laborers union, elected to the state legislature, became union president and graduated from college at age 42. he's now in his second term as a successful mayor of the iconic american city of boston, who always puts working people first, fighting for a $15 minimum wage, paid family i have he understanding unions built the middle class and how union workers have held this country together during this crisis. healthcare workers keeping our
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hospitals safe clean, effective and efficient. public service workers fighting against budget shortfalls to keep communities afloat. port workers, warehouse workers, folks keeping our air and rail systems running. they're literally what is keeping us going, and they deserve a secretary of labor who knows how to build our workers. who knows when i say our future is made in america, it will be a future built by american workers, a future with historic investments in infrastructure, clean energy, manufacturing, and so much more that's going to create millions of good paying jobs. marty knows worker power means not just protecting the right to unionize, but encouraging unionization, collective bargaining, the fair labor standards act way back didn't just say you can have unions. it did say the government should
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encourage the formation of unions. it also means protecting pensions, increasing minimum wage. and make thursday she paid, as we fought for during the obama administration, that this administration has weakened. making sure we have a trade policy for every decision we make, the unions are at the table, focused on winning good jobs for american workers. this is one of the most important depends to me. i trust mayor walsh. i'm honored he accepted. i also want to say i did give serious consideration of nominating my friend bernie sanders to this position. i'm confident he could have done a fantastic job. i can think the no more passionate ally to working people in this country, but after tuesday's results in georgia, giving democratic
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control to the united states senate and a tie vote, bernie and i agreed -- as a matter of fact bernie said we can't put control of the senate at risk on the outcome of a special election in vermont. he agreed we couldn't take that chance. we also discussed how we would work together, travel the country together, helping marty, meeting with working men and women who feel forgotten, left behind in this economy. we agreed we'll work closely on our shared agenda, on increasing working power to protect the dignity of work. i want to hang bernie for his continued friendship and leadership, and i look forward to working together. for administrator of the small business administration, i nominate isabel guzman. s isabel grew up in california, working alongside her dad in a small veterinary business he
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built. she devoted an early understanding on what small business means to their employees and the neighborhood they support, and the families whose dreams they represent she dedicated her career to creating jobs as a senior officials on the obama/biden small business administration. at director of california's office of small business and a small business advocate, she worked tireless will i to ensure that everyone with a entrepreneurial spark had a fair and equal shot of getting off the ground and succeeding. the biden/harris administration will be locked in on helping small businesses recover, rebuild and remain the engines of our economic strength. and as heads of the sba, isabel will be leading a critical mission not only to rescues small business in crisis, but to provide the capital to entrepreneurs across the country, so they can innovate,
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create jobs and help lead us in the recovery. i'm grateful she accepted the call to serve in washington. for deputy commerce secretary, i nominate -- i i have to admit to a good, loyal, great friend don graves. he's a long, trusted adviser. he was there during the great recessi recession, helping small businesses stay afloat. when president obama asked me to lead the effort to get detroit out of bankruptcy and off its back, on its feet again, he said i could take anyone in the administration on my family to do it full time. i took the treasury department. i tasked don to come over and work for me and work on it full time. it was the best decision i ever made, and i'm not sure how he think being it, but i think it was the best decision i ever made. he did a great job working with city officials, state officials,
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on its road to recovery. by the way, it's the little things. it's getting to know what's happening on the ground. remember how we had the issue about the number of buses lights, streetlights, it gets down to the nitty-gritty of what has to be done. we found out that detroit had a lot of qualified people, but during the great recession almost everyone who knew how to program anything left. when we finally got it back on the feet, we found out there was nobody left who knew how to turn on the streetlights, literally, run the sewer department. we got an outfit to come in, find us some high-tech people. they came back with 53, 55 people, they all happened to be women, most were minority, none had more than a high school degree, and a quarter of them only had a g.e.d. i remember even our very liberal
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friend we told we're doing this, they thought -- guess what? in a 14-week program they were taught how to program. they were taught thousand do it all. they ended up putting the city back on its feet. the lowest starting salary, correct my if i'm wrong, $49,000, the highest $104,000. give people a chance, americans can do everything, given a shot. they also helped me lead our national strategy to equip workers with the skills they need in the 21st century, in health care, high tech, clean energy, so much more. he helped me marshal a full resource from the federal government to help cancer as we node it. a cancer survivor himself, diagnosed and treated while working on this for me, he knows
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about hope and resilience. i'm grateful to him and his wonderful family, once again answering the call to serve. i want to thank you all, thank your families, and i don't want to embarrass, but there's one guy in the gallery, tommie, who is my buddy, the son of the governor, thanks, tommy, for supporting mom for doing this. to the american people, i know these times are tough. i want you to know we're going to get through this. help is on the way. these people know what they're about. they know what it's like, and may god bless you all, and may god protect our troops. what i would like to do is turn this over to the team, starting with our next secretary of labor marty walsh. we're going to dip out of this for a moment. this is president-elect joe biden announcing his economic and jobs team. he actually is going to be taking questions. we will be coming back to hear
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what he has to say to those questions on this very pivotal day here in washington. he is in wilmington making these announcement. he did say that he considered bernie sanders for one of these jobs, which is certainly something the progressive wing of the democratic party would like to see, but he said that bernie sanders and he in agreement that they couldn't put control of the senate at risk with a special election in vermont. he did say they are going to work together. he said they are going to travel together, so to the degree in which he incorporates bernie sanders' ideas into his parties, those are something that the democrats on the left will be looking at. this is a hugely busy day in the country. we heard the president-elect offering condolences for the capitol police officers sicknick who has died, and he said the
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people who are responsible will be held accountable. he also said this is all coming on a day when donald trump is staring down the possibility of being the only president to be impeached twice. so let's go back to that breaking news. house democrats are ready to move ahead with a vote on articles of impeachment. this could happen as early as next week. this is movement that will take, two, three, four days. one of the concerns is that the president, who has access to nuke already codes, the danger he could do in the final days of his office. we have manu raju and kaitlan collins with us. manu, tell us what you are hearing about the fast-tracking of impeachment. >> there's a big push to have a vote by next week. expect that push to continue. momentum is growing within the
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house democratic caucus to do just that this would be an unbelievably fast move. typically an inquiry lasts some time, but they're talking about moving directly to the floor in a matter of days. in a conference call that happened just now, democrats were talking about the pitfalls house intelligence committee chairman adam schiff has discussed some of those, one of which is how it's going to leave each on january 20th in a matter of days, how senate republicans who control the senate jersey up until january 20th have no desire, no appetite to have a quick trial before january 20th, but there's a possibility there could be a senate trial after january 20th, when donald trump leaves office, and when the senate democrats take role and have the majority, but the question that was raised on a call, i'm told, is that it could
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create a bit of an awkward situation for joe biden, who's trying to unite the country, trying to move on from the trump years and gmcs have to essentially make a decision on whether to press ahead, because it would remove one of the key messages they're pushes, which is donald trump presents an imminent threat to the country right now, so why move to a trial after he leaves office, but if they convict him after he leaves office, it could prevent him from running for office again. so all the these discussions are taking place, considerations that the leadership is taking, but nancy pelosi is furious at donald trump. she wants him to resign from office. she wants vice president mike pence to invoke the 25th amendment along with the cabinet, but there's no indication that that's going to happen, which is why they are talking about something truly unprecedented to impeach donald trump for the second time, the only president that
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would happen to ever in american history, but it looks like they're moving in that direction, but recognize some of the pitfalls ahead as they push forward, brianna. >> kaitlan, the president is very clearly realizing this is a possibility, that he would be, as manu said, the first president in americans history to be impeached twice. how is the white house responding to this? >> reporter: it's not so much the president, bus his senior staff is saying these likely a possibility, because they don't think they know for sure what the vice president is going to do, and that they aren't guaranteed that the cabinet would not unite against the president and actually move forward. it seems unlikely that's going to happen based on the conversation we've had with several cabinet secretaries, but that is what drove the president to make that video last night, where he denounced the pro-trump mob that attacked capitol hill and talked about the transition of power. it's bulk senior staff, ivanka
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trump, who yite house counsel, t to the president and said you're at serious risk for losing your power if you don't come out -- the president did not have a change of heart, but instead he realizes this threat is growing. that was last night. things have changed a lot. it seems like the momentum is growing behind the effort to impeach him for a second time. there is a realization in the white house this could happen. people are not something it. they're not talking about it the way they talked about at the last impeachment, which caught them by surprise. they expected republicans to protect the president, but they know they have lost a serious amount of support from senate republicans, but it does seem real inside the white house, thunderstor they realize the next 12 days could be the most tum muttius of his presidency. >> thank you both for your
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reporting. there's multiple sources telling cnn that president trump has been asking aides and lawyers, including his white house counsel about his self-pardon power. it's unclear if this topic has come up after the attack on capitol hill. harry litman is a former u.s. attorney and deputy assistant attorney general, and a legal columnist for "los angeles times", and hosts the talking heads podcast. don't you have to be convicted of a crime in order to receive a pardon? >> no. you can get a pardon as long as the offense has taken place. you probably can't do a blanket pardon for everything that ever happened or future conduct. as long as the offense has what happened, a pardon is appropriate. >> what would a presidential pardon look like? what kind of precedent would this set? >> an amazing one.
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the department of justice has already held you couldn't do it. imagine, brianna, it would be a total ticket to put himself above the law, fifth avenue, boom, shoot somebody in broad daylight, sign the pardon. the supreme court has never had occasion to rule on it. this might bring that occasion forward. >> you have appear op-ed you wrote in the "los angeles times" where you make the case there is actually legal recourse against the president because of riot. what is the legal recourse? >> there's a few charges, but the basic idea he conspired to have the mob, in the words of the law, impede federal law or seize federal property. the question will be whether his speech is directly enough tied to what they did to make out a case, but look, he said we can't do this with weakness.
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rudy giuliani said trial by combat, et cetera. there's a lot of incendiary words. that will be the question -- could it be tied enough to what the mob did thereafter? >> harry, as always, great to have you. thank you. >> thank you, brianna. next, the man who is now infamous for being in that photo of him sitting at nancy pelosi's desk with his foot on top of her desk. he's been arrested. new details on that and other charges for rioters who attacked the capitol. plus the jaw-dropping inability for conservative media to call this what it was, which is an insurrection. we will roll the tape. okay, give it a try. between wisdom and curiosity, there's a bridge. between ideas and inspiration, trauma and treatment. gained a couple of more pounds. that's good for the babies. between the moments that make us who we are,
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. the attack on the nation's capitol was a deadly uprising. it was a violent riot, and it was an insurrection, it was sedition, incited by the president calling his supporters to action. i'm not used to using these words, because it's not something i've had to describe in my lifetime. it doesn't happen in america. i'm sure a lot of us thought that. so let's call it what it is, something that some people are having a harder time with than others, like this guy on planet fox. >> what happened yesterday, they're telling us is wasn't a political protest got out of hand. that is in fact what happened, but that's not what they're saying. instead they're calling it domestic terrorism. today cnn unveiled a soviet-style enemies list to find the trump supporters and
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then destroy them. >> then we'll roll the tape on all enablers who have all helped to fuel the deadly insurrection at the u.s. capitol. >> the insurrection? it wasn't insurrection. it was a political protest that got completely out of control because the president recklessly encouraged it, and that is wrong. before at the not an insurrection. it was an insurrection. tame merriam webster's world for it. and what is a revolt? a renouncing of 'liegeance, especially a determined armed uprising according to also merriam webster. since this guy pretends not to understand words, let's use pictures. these are people who have
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renounced allegiance to their government, should it not be helmed by donald trump, knocking done barriers, knocking done gates, pushing people out of the way. police would be the civil authority as described in the definition of "insurrection." they broke windows and doors. they vandalized offices. the perpetrators forced members of congress to take cover in fear of their lives. those lawmakers are the, quote, civil authority. the established government, as the dictionary states, that they are revolting again. the terrorist looted and bragged about it afterwards. they climbed the wall of congress, the establishment government they were stagen an uprising against. they threatened the lawmakers, including a message left on the speaker of the house's desk. at least one man had zip ties, as if he was preparing to hold someone against their will. this was an armed uprising, armed with anything they could
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get their hands on, including guns and other weapons, which the d.c. police chief said were recovered from the capitol complex. the u.s. attorney's office set the ingredients for homemade napalm were also found, and pipe bombs were found on the grounds of the capitol and nearby outside the rnc and dnc. so it's interesting when the crowd in this case is full of almost entirely white trump-supporting rioters, fox's tucker carlson described it as, quote, a political protest that got out of control, especially when this is how he described black lives matter protests and looting this past summer after the death of george floyd. >> antifa, crazed ideologues, grifters, criminals, thugs with no stake in society, nothing better to do. these are no protests. this is not about george floyd, not about systemic racism,
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whatever that is. america is not a racist country. they flood the streets with angry young people who break things and hurt anyone who gets in the way. when they want something, they take it. what the mobs are doing isn't bringing people together, just the opposite, riots donnell heal wounds. they create them. remember that when they come for you, and at this rate, they will. the arm militia of the democratic party is working to overthrow our system of government. they're trying to put themselves in power. that's all obvious notice. >> tucker carlson rolls he eyes at the idea of systemic racism, at while privilege, but perhaps he should roll the eyes over to a mirror. it's entirely fantastical to thing that the crowds of black and brown people would have been treated the way they were on wednesday. yes, looting is criminal behavior pun shblt under the law. what we saw on tuesday is so much more than that.
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saying otherwise is false equivalents, to liken the siege on the capitol to the violence and property damage during the summer of black lives matter is to ignore this is the united states capitol, the seat of government, at a moment in time when the vice president is presiding over a joint session of congress, both of house and senate present as they were in the process of making joe biden's victory in the presidential election a fair election official. this isn't a target store. this isn't a statue. this is the capitol, supposedly one of the most secure buildings on earth. the difference in law enforcement's actions, tucker carlson says, racism has nothing to do with it. the berkshire school sent a letter to parents describing what happened yesterday as, quote, they acts of violence in racism. if you're a literal person tied
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to outdated western notions of linear thought and fact, that might confuse you. racism? whatever you thought about what happened yesterday, what was racist about it? well, nothing of course,ing there nothing racist about it. >> since he needs things explained to him in pictures, here is one. an insurrectionist parading a confederate flag through the capitol, the inaugural appearance of this symbol, based on the belief that black people were inferior to white people and it was god's will to enslave them. when tucker carlson was arguing against the tearing down of confederate statues, he said the country is a sum total of its history, good and bad. he said eliminating the past leaves us unable to say who we are. her's trying to eliminate the
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present, and he is spoon-feeding it to millions of hungry viewers who tonight into his show. healthy societies do not destroy their own history, he said last summer, but what he didn't cop to is he is part of the illness, a propagandist, a liar, a parasite. i want to talk with the opinion columnist for the "st. louis dispatch" also a med of the editorial board and a former allerman in st. louis i want your reaction to the argument there's no racism at play here? >> well, it's disappointing, to say the least. it really is as angering as the images i saw on wednesday when i saw the insurrectionist coming into very little resistance to take over the capitol of the united states of america, having been at many protests and many black lives matter events over
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the years, i saw the police response to peaceful protesters doing little more than standing on the street, and to see these insurrectionists be treated with such kid gloves was angers. >> you talk about a man named josh, who was just 18 years old, when he protested the death of michael brown back in 2014, and other black americans who had been killed by police in the st. louis area. josh was sentenced to prison for eight years for stealing snacks from a grocery store and burning a trash can. you said this is a story that stuck with you all these years. tell us about this. >> yeah, in the case of josh williams from st. louis, law enforcement was very clear that they wanted to send a strong message to discourages acts of protests that turned violent. josh definitely did something stupid, about you had es was a first-time offender. the idea that he's still sitting
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in jail serving out an eight-year sentence while folks we saw this week attack the u.s. capitol, endangering the lives of our nation ace higher lawmakers, and faced eleme ed a resistance, it's hard to see anything but a double standard in that treatment. >> i do think we need to point out there were a number of law enforcement officers who were injured. we know that one died. they were working very hard to stave off the invaders in the capitol. i think the question really is how did we even get to the point that they got so close? how did leadership make these decisions? that is something that will take time to get answers, but right now you have law enforcement officials working fast, trying to bring criminal charges, and federal investigators are even open to looking at president trump's role in all of this. is that enough? >> well, it's a start. there has to be some consequences for what we saw,
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and the question i asked in my column for the post-dispatch is are we going to see the same examples being set? these images of people at nancy pelosi's desk, standing at the podium where the vice president just was presiding over the u.s. senate just moments earlier, you know, this is not the there are a lot of people responsible for fanning the flames of this kind of extreme, tucker carlson bearings some blame and of course the president of the united states. one might argue the republican party has really benefited from this in recent years, and when you play with fire, sometimes you get burned. we need to really turn down the heat on this extremism that is spreading across the country. >> indeed. antonio french, thank you so much for being with us joining us from st. louis. >> thank you. a federal murder investigation will soon be
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opened in the death of a capitol police officer who was killed during wednesday's riot. investigators are trying to cast a wide net to get information on people who stormed the capitol, broke into chambers and stole items from offices and elsewhere. let's pause a minute and listen to the president-elect. >> well, folks, let me take some of your questions. we'll have chances again this week to do it. >> reporter: mr. president-elect, while we have been here as you've been announcing your economic team, we've learned that house democrats are currently planning to introduce articles of impeachment against president
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trump as soon as monday. at that point it will be just a little over a week before the president leaves office. do you believe this is a good idea? >> look, i've thought for a long, long time that president trump wasn't fit to hold the job. that's why i ran. and my job now in 12 days, god willing, i'll be president of the united states of america. and i'm focused on the urgency of three immediate concerns. one, the virus, getting it under control, getting the vaccine from a vial into people's arms. i think the way it's being done now has been very, very sad. number two, we've had 4,000 deaths, 4,000 deaths yesterday. and things continue to rise, to escalate. that's my number one concern, to
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get the virus under control. we lost over 125,000 jobs this last month, and people are really, really, really in desperate shape. and so i'm focused on the virus, the vaccine and economic growth. what the congress decides to do is for them to decide. but i'm going to have to, and they're going to have to be ready to hit the ground running, because when kamala and i are sworn in, we'll be introducing immediately significant pieces of legislation to deal with the virus, deal with the economy, and deal with economic growth. so we're going to do our job, and the congress can decide how to proceed with theirs. >> reporter: but if a democratic member of congress were to call and ask for your advice whether to proceed with this, what would you tell them? >> i'd tell them that's a
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decision for the congress to make. i'm focused on my job. >> reporter: did you speak with nancy pelosi before this decision was made, or is that conversation that's still going to happen? >> i'll be speaking with nancy and the democratic leadership this afternoon, as a matter of fact, about my agenda as well as whatever they want to talk to me about. >> reporter: thanks. >> reporter: thanks, mr. president-elect. >> thank you. >> reporter: i wanted to ask about your agenda in light of the jobs report laid out today. you'll be going over the agenda of your plan. do you think the need in the covid relief bill is greater than you anticipated, and what is the price tag you're looking at? i've been told it could be in the 2 trillion to 3 tr$3 trilli
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range. and the stimulus checks, do you want to see that as a senate stand-alone bill as a way to speed up the process, or do you think those direct cash payments should be part of the package you're going to be proposing? >> we're going to be proposing an entire package. parts of that package are of equal consequence to people. unemployment insurance, being able to continue with rent forbearance, a whole range of issues. so that's number one. we think that they all have to be dealt with. the price tag will be high. but as i said, made scant reference to in my opening comments, the overwhelming consensus among leading economists left, right and center is that in order to keep the economy from collapsing this year and getting much, much worse, we should be investing significant amounts of money right now to grow the economy.
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and that's a pretty wide consensus. and as you know, moody's had done an analysis to what i had originally been talking about and said it was necessary to keep the economy from going down. we've created 18.6 million jobs, create $2.3 million more in economic growth, with this out going administration. so it's necessary to spend the money now. the answer is yes, it will be in the trillions of dollars, the entire package. i'll be here next thursday laying out in detail how that package is going to go. but the basic story is simple, that if we don't act now, things will be much worse and harder to get out of the hole later, so we have to invest now. secondly, we're going to have to meet the emergency needs of the american people. literally, i know you know this, ken, but people are having trouble just putting food on the
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table, just keeping the payment of their car, being able to turn the lights on. there is a dire, dire need to act now, purely out of what is humanitarian need here at home. and thirdly, we're going to, in the third stage of this, the whole story is we're going to have to invest, as i suggested throughout the campaign, in infrastructure and health care and a whole range of things that are going to generate good-paying jobs that will allow us to grow the economy. so that's the long answer to your short question, which is that the idea of, with interest rates as low as they are, with the fed having had its power sort of taken away in terms of what they could do to help this administration like lafe last, s the board they think we should be investing in deficit spending
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in terms of growth. >> apparently you were there in 1983 when there was an explosion in the senate corridor, you were there in 2008 when two capitol police officers were shot, you were there during the anthrax attacks in 2001. what kind of investigation needs to take place and what kind of steps need to take place to improve the security of the capitol? and also, what do you think the people who were involved in the storming of the capitol, how should they be treated by your justice department? should they be treated as domestic terrorists? >> yes, they should be treated as a bunch of thugs, anti-sem e anti-semit anti-semites, white supremacists. come on, these shirts they're wearing, these are a bunch of thugs. thugs. and they're domestic terrorists cht that wi and that will be a judgment for
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the domestic department to make as to what they should be charged with. but they should be prosecuted. the difference here is this had the active encouragement of a sitting president of the united states, and the way in which the breakdown in security occurred needs to be thoroughly investigated. i'm not going to prejudge what it was, but the idea, the idea that these people were able to march up the stairs, march in and do it in a way -- there was a great debate -- i don't know the answer -- great debate now. is the governor of maryland correct when he said that i was ready to send in the national guard, i couldn't get authorization? what happened? it deserves a full-blown investigation. people need to be held accountable and steps taken that something like this could never happen again. and the difference this time is, everybody, every nation has dealt, every democracy has dealt with individual terrorist
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attacks by groups that are very targeted. the largest target was 9/11 in the buildings. well, right down to blowing up, you know, a bomb going off in the capitol when i was there and two policemen. but the idea that thousands of people, thousands of people could be marching up the steps of the united states capitol breaking windows, breaking doors, forcing their way in, stepping aside, and the photographs of -- i don't know what the circumstances, a photograph that looked like you had some of the capitol police taking selfies with these people. that has to be thoroughly investigated, the authorities responsible have to be held accountable for the failures that occurred, and we have to make sure that this can never, ever happen again. the damage done to our reputation around the world by a president of the united states encouraging a mob -- a mob
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