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he was a molecular buy iologisto had to retire from nih. he was a carving artist and loving father and grandfather. she was a retired teacher and kept in touch with former students. her son william said she loved camping and, of course, her family. may they rest in peace and may their memories be a blessing. erin burnett on "out front" starts right now. the acting secretary steps down as the fbi issues a chilling bulletin warning of armed protests in all 50 states in the capitol. was the capitol riots just the beginning? tonight a republican congressman says he's seriously considering impeaching trump. he's out front.
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and two police departments investigate whether anyone in their ranks joined in the rioters. let's go "out front." good peeevening, i'm erin burnett. acting secretary chad wolf resigning tonight aside from vowing he is resigning due to serious threats facing our nation. that was four days ago. his resignation coming tonight as we learn of deeply serious threats for the nation. the fbi warning of armed riots in all 50 states and our capitol. they're giving a time frame for some initial issues here, january 16 through january 20th. january 20th, of course, is inauguration day. they also say armed riots planned for washington, d.c.
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january 16 through 20. and they issued threats to nancy pelosi and vice president pence. terrifying and aimed at every single state in this country. and yet as americans face a grave and imminent threat of domestic terror, the country's federal government has been m.i.a. we really have not heard from them at all. we have not seen the men and women who are still there, who are leading the federal agencies on camera since the capitol riots five days ago. we have not seen the director of the fbi. and consider this, we now have this no acting department secretary of homeland security, even acting attorney general, acting defense secretary, acting capitol police chief, all while facing this imminent threat. as for the president, he is holed up inside the white house, right, hasn't spoken, bitter, showing no remorse for what has happened. in fact, over the weekend we learned that trump told republican allies he was speaking to that it's unfair to
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blame him for the riot, that he never intended for his supporters to turn violent. well, that is a really, really hard thing to stomach if he says that to you, because unfortunately, the facts are there. first of all, let's just take him on the actual day of the insurrection itself. >> mike pence, i hope you're going to stand up for the good of our constitution and for the good of our country, and if you're not, i'm going to be very disappointed in you, i will tell you right now. i'm not hearing good stories. we're going to walk down to the capitol. you'll never take back our country with weakness. you have to show strength and you have to be strong. >> and trump supporters after that speech went to the capitol, marched on the capitol, stormed the capitol, and they went after mike pence. >> hang mike pence! hang mike pence! hang mike pence! hang mike pence!
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hang mike pence! >> i mean, every time you hear that, you think, this happened? and it wasn't just trump who was whipping up the crowd. listen to his own family and his closest allies. >> if we're wrong, we will be made fools of. but if we're right, a lot of them will go to jail. so let's have trial by combat! >> we're coming for you and we're going to have a good time doing it. >> we need to do the right thing, fight! >> trial by combat. fight. trump supporters took their orders from trump and his lackeys just like they've been doing for months. just list ton ten to the presid over the past few months. here he is on february 23rd. >> mr. president, real quickly, win, lose or draw in this election, will you commit here today for a peaceful transferral
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of power at the inauguration? >> we'll have to see what happens. >> instead of urging his supporters to be peaceful after the campaign, here's what happened. >> will you urge your supporters to stay calm during this exte extended period, not to engage in any civil unrest? >> i'm urging my reporters to go into the polls and watch very carefully. >> refused to answer the question. and then in that same debate, remember this? listen to the exchange when chris wallace asked trump if he would condemn white supremacists and militia groups. >> what do you want to call them? give me a name. who would you like me to condemn? >> the proud boys. >> proud boys, stand back and stand by. >> and that's what they did. they did. until they were called to action. and they were at trump's rally.
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they were seen storming the capitol. and it's not the only incident involving trump supporters. it's like a butterfly flapping its wing. it starts small and then reverberates. remember this in october, a caravan of cars and trucks with trump flags on a campaign bus in texas. they canceled the event out of safety concerns. the president's response, quote, they did nothing wrong. so it built and it built and it built. so the president continued to act that way, emboldened his supporters and domestic terrorists and then stormed the u.s. capitol last wednesday. an insurrection but given these warnings from the fbi, it looks like it could be the beginning, not the end of the domestic terror threat america now faces. kaitlan collins is in front of the white house, and kaitlan, another insurrection coming from the cabinet, and now they're resigning following serious threats to our country.
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what happened and how is the president handling this development? >> reporter: it's still going on, but it's stunning to see the acting secretary step down with what's going on. he said he wanted to stay on because of the importance of transitioning to the biden administration, but this also comes after the white house withdrew his commitment to capitol hill, but now he is questioning his commitment to that job. so he stepped down today, and it really just adds to the chaos of what we're seeing in this final full week of the donald trump presidency. on top of that is what's been going on in the aftermath of this riot and the president's response. erin, we just learned a few moments ago that the president and the vice president have just spoken for the first time since last wednesday when mike pence left the white house to go up to capitol hill. of course, the president, one of his last words to mike pence was a vulgarity because he was upset
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that pence wasn't going to do his bidding up there while he was going through this constitutional process to certify biden's win. but we are told they have now spoken in the oval office just a few moments ago. it's notable because this is probably the longest stretch they've ever gone without actually ever speaking to one another. there are a few things to glean from what we're being told by a senior administration official about how that conversation went. they said it was a good conversation, but, erin, they also said they're going to serve out the remainder of their term. that means the president is not going to be stepping down in his role despite public cries for him to do so. it also means it's incredibly, incredibly unlikely that the vice president is going to invoke to move for the 25th amendment as democrats have pushed him to do, and we know that means that democrats will push for impeachment in 24 hours like they said they would. >> it is obviously very significant, right, they didn't -- hadn't spoken since the riots.
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"hang mike pence "snoor, all th things. the president didn't call pence when he was skwequestered at th capitol. getting on the same page extremely significant. as we wait for more details, i want to go to evan perez about possible violence in all 50 states as well as the u.s. capitol coming into the inauguration, evan. tell us what you know and have we heard directly from the leadership of the fbi? this is huge. it affects every single state in this nation. >> yeah, look, i think the big question has been, where has chris wray been? he hasn't done any public statement before the cameras. he's issued a paper statement. so has the acting attorney general. we are still waiting to hear whether or not if they're going to address the public. as you mentioned, the fbi is concerned about these protests not only here in washington
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surrounding the inauguration, there is another one having to do with second amendment on the 17th, and if the democrats go through with trying to remove the president before then, you can bet that the fbi believes that some of his supporters will turn out again. and the concern is for a repeat of what happened, and one of the interesting things about issuing this bulletin is that none of this stuff happened before the wednesday rally, erin. there was some regional bulletins that were put out. a lot of this stuff is stuff from the internet. this is stuff they're talking about on parler and on twitter, and the fbi knew that some people who might be violent might be attending the trump rally, and the question is, you know, why wasn't more done by the capitol police to protect the building before the mobs came in? >> still huge questions as we learn more and more about the warnings that were there.
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they are questions we need answers to. evan, thank you very much. i want to go to phil mudd, also former cia, and our political analyst. in light of what evan said there, all 50 states and the capitol in washington. all 50 states. how concerning is this? >> i tell you, there's questions that you just heard about the fbi, those would not be the questions i would raise. look, there are fewer than 15,000 fbi agents across 50 states. the concern i would have is a facility that is the u.s. congress, the u.s. capitol that has its own police force that had warning of a threat, couldn't manage the mob of people who overwhelmed the capitol police. multiply that by 50 times. you're telling 50 states, sheriffs and local police, because the fbi can't secure this, look, there is a chance
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that not only people, but armed people, will show up at your capitol and try to overrun your capitol as the u.s. capitol was overrun. the problem i see, erin, is a problem of numbers. you cannot coordinate a national response to secure 50 state locations that's too many space simultaneously. you can't do tit, erin, you jus can't. >> which is pretty sobering here when you don't know where it's going to happen or if it's going to happen, and i think that's pretty terrifying for people to hear. david, it also comes in light of what kaitlan is just reporting, that the president and the vice president have now spoken for the first time since all this happened, right? the president said how upset he was at pence, and they said "hang pence" and the president did nothing and didn't call him for days and days and days. now they have finally spoken, and the initial gauge is that they're going to stay in office. so what does the world see when they see this, the president holed up, finally speaks to his
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vice president today and that's the outcome. >> look, people have rendered a judgment about donald trump on the world stage. that's not the immediate issue right now. the immediate issue is who is running our government and whether there is enough maturity and sobriety in that government to function properly. that is something people around mike pence are telling our own correspondents, the message they want to get out to the world and how they're seen. it pence has an important role here. if the president is disqualified from serving, he can leave the capitol. it's clear he's not going to do that. he's shown no inclination that he wants to do that. it's good they're talking. they're as calm as can possibly be between the two of them, and we'll have to see. there is no indication we have to believe that trump is going to listen to pence now or
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anybody else, for that matter. we shouldn't place our trust in that. what i do think is significant about what phil was talking about and the threat that the fbi is identifying is, number one, it's very important that we know. i do think a lot of the security lapse was surprise, the fact that they were not better prepared. well, now you have a lot more awareness about what could happen here in d.c., but around the country. i think from a law enforcement perspective, i think phil would agree. that's very important to raise awareness, to mobilize the response you need and to calm fears in that sense of alarm that people will feel. >> abby, the thing is, though, what we saw on wednesday, on the day of the riot, right, was a president who was enthusiastic and excited about what he was seeing until he decided to, you know, he sort of didn't like the look of the people who resisted calling up the national guard, slow-walked that entire process, right? pence tried to push the other
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way, and now you have something like this happening in 50 states. by the way, several of those states have sent national guard contingents to the capitol who have already gone there. is the president even equipped to handle this? >> no, i think unquestionably he is not. in addition to what you just said, erin, remember, during the assault on the capitol while mike pence was being hidden away, frankly, from this mob, president trump was tweeting attacks on pence. >> yep. >> not only that, but he was also tweeting -- he sent out a tweet that basically said, this is what you get when you steal the election, continuing to falsely claim the election was stolen and also giving cover for the people doing this incredibly violent act against the united states government. so president trump is not in a good position here to deal with this, because if he were, he would have already said something about this alleged plot that the fbi is tracking. he would have sent a message to his supporters, stand down, do not do this.
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we will respond with force. president trump knows how to say that. he said it over the summer multiple times, threatening protesters in portland and elsewhere with violence. he has not said that. it's incredibly telling. and the idea that mike pence wants to smooth things over until next tuesday -- or next wednesday is typical for mike pence, but it's not going to work. president trump is not going to be reasoned with when it comes to this issue because he doesn't want to be. >> even, phil, when he was forced to put out a video, his third video, right, but forced to come out one where he sort of condemned this, he ended it by saying this is just the beginning. and now we see that there are many across this country who want this to be the beginning. you worked for the cia. you were, you know, working with the white house on 9/11. how does this threat, this warning compare? >> boy, this is -- you're making me uncomfortable. let me give you a snapshot.
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on 9/11 i was vevacuated from te white house. i was on loan from the cia to the white house, which is common in government. but in time after the initial shock, you realized it was them. that is, people overseas in places like pakistan and afghanistan who plotted to come into this country and threaten us. i never thought they could threaten our politics and i never imagined they could threaten our culture. and they never did. they could threaten our security, our airlines, for example, but they couldn't threaten us. it was them. erin, it's us. now it's us. it is us, my neighbor, someone down the street, someone in the same state who is looking at my country and saying, i'd like to use violence to threaten the congress of the united states and to say that i don't respect the law of this country. it was them 20 years ago, it's us now. for me, that's -- especially living with young people in this household, that's more concerning. it's us. >> final word, david.
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>> well, i think it is concerning. we've also been here before domestically, you know. in the '90s it wasn't at this level, but there was a lot of internal division, a lot of anger and rancor directed toward the federal government. there was the oklahoma city bombing which was a heinous act of domestic terror. so we have been here before, and people need to be watchful. but i also want to sound a note of optimism in the strength of our institutions, in the strength of our political system and in each other that we're strong enough to withstand this and put up some guardrails against the excesses that we've already seen. >> can i just add, i do think it's important what happens from here. one of the things congress is dealing with is what is the message that's going to be sent? it's not just about the partisan rancor in the rank and file, it's about what our leaders do and what the role of the president is.
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and so i think that is the big question that hangs over the situation. we've never had a president who has done this before, and that's what makes this very different. >> thank you all very much. we do have more breaking news on the impeachment, though. we now know it is set for wednesday in the house as senate minority leader chuck schumer is looking at using a rare technique that would basically reconvene the senate so that they could hold the formal impeachment trial, right, to convict before president trump leaves office in nine days. manu raju is out front on capitol hill. manu, that would be very significant because the house is barelyi barrelling toward an impeachment vote, but they say if you do that, you have to decide when schumer is in the majority. what could happen here that would get that done before inauguration day? >> they would need support from mitch mcconnell, the current senate majority leader, but mcconnell is not indicating he would get behind it for a quick trial. as a result, we're very likely
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looking at a trial that would begin when joe biden becomes president for the outgoing and former president, donald trump. at that point the senate would have to vote and convict for two-thirds majority, and if they were successful in voting, that could prevent him from holding office ever again. but this is moving very quickly in the house. there is expected to be a vote on wednesday to impeach president trump on incitement of insurrection. the democrats are confident they have the votes. they believe they'll get at least some republicans to be on board, but most republicans are opposed to this idea, including kevin mccarthy, the house republican leader who just had a conference call with his colleagues and said he prefers other approaches, including a bipartisan committee to figure out what went wrong. mccarthy did acknowledge on this conference call that he spoke with president trump, and trump himself acknowledged that he bore some of the blame for the violent riots here that killed
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five people, including that one u.s. capitol police officer. we have not heard the president say that publicly, but privately he told kevin mccarthy who just revealed that to his members. so far it's democrats pushing it forward. we'll see if republicans do as well, erin. >> of course, resignation would be the thing to do, but of course that isn't what he did as he continues to fan the flames before and after. as they ready the impeachment vote on wednesday, i want to bring in speaker congresswoman katherine clark. congresswoman, i appreciate your time. speaker pelosi is giving vice president pence 24 hours to respond, so once the resolution on the 25th amendment is voted on, and that's expected to happen tomorrow. that would put you on track for the wednesday vote. we know the vice president and the president have now spoken and it was amicable.
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is there any other conversation between the president and vice president pence? >> not that i'm aware of, erin, and we hope that this president complies with the american people each minute he remains in the white house as commander of chief. so we are going to move forward. we would ask once again that mike pence stand up to his constitutional duty, invoke the 25th amendment and remove the president because that is the fastest way to expel him from the presidency. but we will also move forward on wednesday to impeach the president, to make sure that we are living up to our oath of office to protect this democracy and the constitution. >> so, congresswoman, you do have enough democratic votes, obviously, you got everything there. but have you spoken with any of
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your republican colleagues who have told you directly they will vote yes to impeach president trump? >> i have not heard any direct confirmation of yes votes. but i hope over the next days there will be some deep soul searching. because this is the call of history. as the speaker often quotes, thomas payne, the time has found us, and the time has found these republicans. they have told the american public a big lie, a lie about our elections that has resulted violence and put our very democracy on the edge. and so it's tichlt the way to unify and move forward is to speak the kroout. the this time where they need to tell the truth about our election and move this country
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fwafrd and preserve this democracy. >> i want to ask you one more question before we go. david cicciline has received some nasty, vicious threats. here's some. >> you hope to [ bleep ] this time, you little [ bleep ]. >> if you impeach him, civil war is on, buddy. >> how concerned are you about those things happening? >> i'm very concerned. we saw it play out. this is exactly why we are doing everything we can, erin, to remove this president. he incited this, and our colleagues who helped him spread this misinformation, who continue to tell this lie about our elections, they are responsible for this. we have to make sure that we are standing up for what is right
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and for the constitution, and these are scary people. and their threats are real. they erected a gallows outside of the capitol with a noose. they came to assassinate our leaders and members of congress. and we have to take that as deadly serious as it is. but we also can't be afraid. because this is the moment where our responsibility is to the american people. we don't just get to keep a democracy, we also have to do the right thing, even when it's scary, even when it's hard, to make sure that we preserve our constitution and this great american experiment. >> i appreciate your time, congressman, thank you very much, to the assistant speaker. now to a house republican who has just come out to say, quote, he is strongly considering impeaching the president. i want to bring out congressman
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peter mieyer. look, i know this is hard for you, to get your mind around this. i know you're strongly considering impeaching the president. why? >> honestly, erin, i had a break. on wednesday at around 4:17 p.m. after we fled the house chambers, after we knew at least one person had died, when we were in a secure location, we didn't know whether any of our colleagues were injured or killed, and the one person who could tamp down the rhetoric, the one person who could have put an end to that violence, the president, he put out the video that said, we love you, you're special, come home. no condemnation, no urge to bring things back. to me that was an abject failure of leadership and something just broke then. that was the one opportunity he had to try to make things right. when we had the number 1, 2, 3 individuals in the president's line of succession under siege,
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and he was personally missing. >> what would make you cast this vote? >> i've had a lot of discussion with colleagues. there are votes who are concerned about the process of impeachment. they're concerned about the impact and what that would mean from public reaction. there are folks concerned about the timing. i have not heard anyone argue the merits. to me this is not the timing that is ideal. i would prefer that we have a more fulsome investigation into what happened. most of what i know from january 6 came either from personal experience or from twitter. but at the end of the day, it is obvious that the president is no longer qualified to hold that office. >> so it sounds like you made your decision in terms of your vote. >> i will wait to see the additional evidence presented, but again, this is something we're strongly considering. >> as you say, timing is a crutch. i get it. timing is a crutch if people are going to use that. someone has to call that out.
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you're qualified for one day or you're qualified for four years. it doesn't matter, you either are or you aren't. congressman, we are learning of armed protests now on all 50 state capitols and washington, d.c. the fbi saying they have evidence of this. they're worried. yet the acting dhs secretary just resigned. you remember four days ago he said -- let me just quote him because i was on the air when it happened -- i vow to remain until january 20th because of serious threats facing our country. he, by the way, was imploring. he said, i implore the president to strongly contain the violence. the president didn't do it. but the serious threats facing our country, we now know threats on 50 state capitols. what do you think is going on here? >> aiit's a vacuum of leadershi plain and simple, and something that deeply worries me. i served in iraq. you have one person in command and somebody steps into that breach, and right now we just have silence. that's incredibly worrisome.
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i'm very worried about the violence not only that occurred already which was horrific, it could have been far worse, but also i go forward with the expectation there will be more violence. i was one of nine freshmen to vote to certify the election and not to vote to overturn it, and a lot of us are talking amongst ourselves concerned about our security, some of us have already experienced death threats, put on armed guard. my concern is folks will try to kill us. that should not intimidate us because loyalty to the constitution should supercede everything else. >> it's important that you raise that, because you are saying what you are saying, taking the stand of what you're saying in the face of that. can i ask you one other question? there are a lot i would like to ask you about all those other republicans who did not vote to certify. of the nine who did, of which you are one, have you talked to them about their votes on this issue? are some of them also in the position that you are in terms of this impeachment vote, do you believe? >> i don't want to share any private discussions. this is obviously something that
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a lot of us are trying to understand. if you can imagine the past week we went from grappling with the electoral college certification, which we knew was going to be a very severe test of whether or not we were more concerned about our political futures or kind of our moral compass, and then moving forward, we had the events of wednesday, and we're still dealing with the aftermaths and the fallout from that. i can only say this is something we're actively discussing. as i said earlier, there are folks doubting the timing, curious about the process, concerned about the ramifications, but i've heard no doubt on the merits. >> well, i appreciate your time. i appreciate your honesty and your willingness to speak out about it, congressman meyer, i think it's really important. i thank you. >> thank you. after this, more breaking news. capitol hill police officers are under investigation for wednesday's riot. two have been suspended.
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breaking tonight, two capitol police officers suspended for their behavior during the riot on capitol hill. this is according to democratic congressman tim ryan who says it includes this man who took a selfie with one of the rioters and another who directed people around while wearing a maga hat. alex marquardt is out front. alex, we know about those two, but i understand you're learning about more officers that could be facing consequences? >> reporter: that's right, erin. on top of these two that have been suspended there are up to 15, congressman ryan said, capitol hill police that are under investigation. you mentioned that officer who is believed to have directed protesters. we've heard things like this, including from congressman jim clyburn who said that it was very odd that rioters were able to find his office even though it was not marked. you know what a maze that building is, erin. and all of this comes as this city, washington, d.c., the nation's capitol and state capitols all across the country
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are gearing up for more potential violence. new chilling video emerging five days after the historic, violent insurrection at the capitol. here a police officer is being brutally assaulted by the insurrectionist mob, stomped on and hit with a flagpole as the crowd sings the national anthem and chants "usa." as the mob tries to force its way into the capitol, another office was crushed under the people, bloody, as he calls for help. the nation and its capitol bracing for more violence in the coming days, including around the inauguration of president-elect joe biden. >> our goals right now are to encourage americans to participate virtually. >> reporter: an internal fbi bulletin obtained by cnn says that armed protests are being planned at all 50 state capitols and the capitol at washington, d.c. in the days leading up to
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the inauguration. mayor bowser asked that they cite challenges. >> i am requesting that the chancellor cancel any and all public gatherings. >> it has raised the number of guard troops mobilized to 15,000 across the nation. he told the "washington post" before the riot his bosses didn't want him to request to have the national guard on stand-by. the pentagon confirmed that the capitol police made no requests before wednesday's events. >> based on the assessment, they believed they had sufficient personnel and did not make a request. >> reporter: when the insurrection was underway, former capitol police chief stev steven sund said he pleaded five more times for help.
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they said they didn't like the idea of a national guard in a police line. the general on the phone now denies that, but the decision was made to send the guard shortly after by acting defense secretary chris miller. now the hunt is on for many of the rioters. the fbi and d.c. police asking the public for help identifying them, like this man carrying the confederate flag through the halls of congress. others have been named. the bearded man wearing the camp auschwitz shirt is robert packer from virginia, the individual in all black with a holster is eric munchville from nashville. he is charged with two federal crimes. also charged is a retired reservist army colonel named larry brock who also had flexible handcuffs. erin, one thing investigators are looking into is to what extent the rioters included active duty law enforcement and military. we are told there are at least seven officers across the country who are under
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investigation by their departments from new york, philadelphia, seattle, virginia and texas. so, of course, very troubling to think that there could have been law enforcement and military among those rioters. erin, one more thing we should note is that the president has just agreed to that emergency declaration that had been requested by the mayor of washington, d.c. erin? >> alex, thank you very much. i want to go out front now to john scott railton. he's been assisting the fbi and identified one of the rioters before he was even arrested and he tracks extremist groups for the university of toronto assistant lab. armed protests planned for all 50 states leading into and inauguration day. how concerned are you that this is the beginning, right, as the president indicated at the end of his last taped commentary, and not the end? >> erin, first of all, thanks for having me and i'm glad to be here. i want to just clarify i'm still
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a civilian just working on research of a lot of people, and when we find things credible, we forward them to the fbi. i am very concerned, which is what keeps me up at night and what keeps many of us up trying to figure out who was there that day. what keeps us going is that min sh -- minshall and eric brock who are behind bars. >> you talked about eric minshall. he is seen in this picture. and the one with horns and face paint, he is a navy veteran. do you think we're going to see more people who fit those profiles?
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>> yeah. i'm up to my eyeballs in footage and photos, and i know a lot of us are. what we're seeing again and again are men and some women with military bearing wearing the right gear, carrying it in the right ways. this really concerns me. part of what's so concerning is many of them seem to have come from the moment of the 6th not worried about dishonor, but rather thinking, you know what? this worked. we should come back again, this time with weapons. >> and that's your perception of what they're thinking. >> i think that's not just my perception. if you go to the places where conservatives on the extreme are talking, it's hard sometimes to even describe them as conservatives, you see calls for armed violence. you see calls for the execution of nancy pelosi. you see graphics of washington, d.c. lingringed by calls to bri rifles to d.c. in the coming weeks. it is not just a hypothetical, it's not a supposition, thgs is
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the messaging we're seeing out there. what concerns me is very quickly we've seen a whole set of conservative sites like parler effectively turn off. on the one hand, that will probably reduce some of the enthusiasm, but i'm very concerned about the lone wolves and militia types who already know each other and may already have a plan. they'll keep communicating, it's just going to be hard for people like me to find them. >> thank you so much. to your point, where have these voices gone? i want people to stay around for that because it is such a crucial question. all of this comes, of course, these threats as the department of homeland security has lost its acting chief. he's stepping down, the third cabinet member to step down following the insurrection. and author of "to end a presidency: the power of impeachment." professor, another cabinet member is now gone.
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chad wolf, even though he vowed to stay on during the domestic security threats until january 20. vice president pence has given no indication he's going to move forth with the 25th amendment. if he were to do so, now you've had three secretaries leave, including wolf. how does it impact that? >> basically it reduces the number of the majority. if there are less heads of departments, less are needed. but if pence continues to say he's not going to do anything, then the 25th amendment offramp doesn't work and impeachment on wednesday is the only solution. and i think that's going to go forward and it's overwhelmingly clear, from your coverage so far, that we have a president who has fomented resolution,
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incited insurrection, basically begun a violent process that is affecting all of us. and the sooner he is gone, the better. >> so, you know, that was the argument, i don't know if you just heard republican congressman meyer from michigan. he was saying as a republican, he hasn't heard anyone argue the merits. and to mhim the argument of, well, it's only nine days doesn't add up at all because there's either merits or there's not, you're qualified to be president or you're not, and he says this president is not. he's one of only two house republicans who have indicated they will likely vote yes, haven't even said for sure, but likely. as you say, it affects us all. how bipartisan does the impeachment vote need to be, professor? >> well, the more bipartisan, the better. and i think the congressman is to be commended, but it's clear that many of his colleagues agree that there is no question that this man, donald j. trump,
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is a danger not qualified to remain president, that he has committed insurrection and incitement of insurrection. given that is their view, if they take their oath to the constitution seriously, there is only one correct way for them to proceed, and that is to vote to impeach and hopefully in the senate convict this president. and that can happen. there is a 2004 agreement in the senate under which, if both mcconnell and schumer agree that the circumstances warrant moving forward quickly, that's exactly what would happen. it is only mcconnell's stubbornness that prevents it from happening, but it's going to happen, anyway, in the new administration after a period of time, and in the meantime, even though it's only nine days, only eight days, the amount of damage that this president can do in just a few days is incalculable. we've seen people die already.
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he's essentially sitting back while the people who have basically tasted the kool-aid are planning violent insurrection in all 50 states and again in the capitol. the sooner he is gone, the sooner the general of that army is gone, the sooner the rest will recede into the -- basically the woodwork. >> professor tribe, i appreciate your time. thank you again. viewers have been advising on the impeachment process to the house. up front next, far right extremists. you just heard john talk about this. they've been kicked off. parler has been effectively shut down. they can't go on facebook. that doesn't mean that they're not there. so where are they and what are they saying and planning? president-elect biden tonight on the roughly 3,000 americans who are now dying every day from coronavirus. for every trip you've been dreaming of,
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tonight parler, the social media site growing in popularity is suing amazon because amazon kicked it off its platforms. it will force others underground to the dark corners of the internet that are too dark for many law enforcement to see. >> we had an election that was stolen from us. >> reporter: some of the biggest peddlers of the election theory that the president didn't lose the election have been purged from major social media platforms since last wednesday's insurrection. but platforms like parler that have few rules and where hate and misinformation fester.
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>> i'm moving to parler. i have a parler account. >> when people push disinformation or conspiracy theories, those are just further reinforced. there is no counter rebuttal like there might be on facebook or twitter where you have fact checkers and people who have different views that offer a civic debate. >> reporter: weeks ago, we spoke to parler users that explained why they preferred it. what would you say on parler? >> that the coronavirus isn't as deadly as everyone says it. >> you could get in twitter jail for that. >> reporter: it is a social media app with an interface similar to twitter. it was increasingly popular on the apple store before being taken offline after amazon pulled support for it. parler is suing the tech giant
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in an attempt to get up and running. he later said he made no threat and believes in the rule of law. the controversial proud boys are welcoming users to a different app. we found this host on a channel summing up the potential influx of users. parler being shutdown has sent tens or thousands of more to telegram. now is our opportunity to grab them by the hand and lead them toward ideological truth. >> the further migration towards more secure fringe platforms is going to create a bigger blind spot for researchers and law enforcement. there is absolutely no doubt about that. >> reporter: this is a whole new challenge facing the united states. these platforms with no rules can be hubs of radicalization
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and they're going to need to be watched very, very closely as we hear more violent demonstrations in the coming weeks. the problem is these apps could be more difficult for these platforms to monitor. >> thank you so much. and outfront next, the united states now averaging 3,000 covid deaths a day. that is a first. the president has not said a worst. but those who have lost their parents, their brothers, their sisters have a warning for the rest of us. >> if you truly loved your loved ones, don't let this be you. the way some wireless companies take back your data? that would be weird. tracfone wireless gives you unlimited carryover data. so if you pay for brats, you get to keep your brats. you also get unlimited talk and text on america's best 4g lte networks for $20 bucks. no contract. wow, that's great. yeah, hit decline. i don't want to talk to her. hit me. get me!
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end cyber attacks. from endpoints to everywhere. for the first time ever tonight the united states is averaging 3,000 coronavirus deaths a day. that is more lives lost than on 9/11 and it is happening every single day. president-elect biden calling it wrong after receiving the second dose of his pfizer vaccine today. >> nearly 4,000 people a day dying is beyond the pail. it is just wrong. >> sara taking us inside the grueling toll it is taking on one hospital in los angeles. ♪
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>> reporter: music slices through the silence. the melody is meant to soothe a family's sorrow. the cruelness of covid-19 on display. this is a funeral in a parking lot. >> my mother was a very strong woman, and she fought to the very last breath. >> reporter: juliana says these are the last words they exchanged. >> i told her, mom, do not be afraid, for the lord is with us. i love you and may god bless you. keep strong for me mom. and all she answered me was, yes, miha. yes, miha with that voice with fear. >> reporter: she lived with and cared for her mom who had a lung condition. her step dad had asthma and diabetes. her brother lives right next door with his young families. her stepfather and then mother ended up here, martin luther king jr. community hospital. they fought to live, just like
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those filling autot ining all t now. but they died within 11 days of each other. dr. jason prasso treated both her parents. >> i just want her to know that we here tried our hardest. we're really sorry that things went the way that they did. >> reporter: the terrible scenario is not unusual as covid ev ensnares those. >> we have seen this disease run through families and all too frequently take multiple members of a single family. >> reporter: the state-of-the-art hospital is an oh basis of care in the health care desert of south los angeles. it is no wonder the heavily black and latino neighborhood is suffering inequitably. >> diabetes is three times more prevalent here than the rest of california. diabetes mortality is 72%
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higher. the life expectancy is 10 years shorter here than in the rest of the state, and all of that is related to this being an underresourced and underserved community. >> reporter: that was before coronavirus arrived. >> we're running well over 100% capacity. >> reporter: the facility is suddenly treating more than 200 patients. 60% of them are covid patients. they have made space everywhere. tents outside, inside hallways, the prayer room, a former gift shop. the battle to save a life physically and mentally exhausting. but on this day, a surprise reminder of why they fight. >> i'm here. >> oh, my god! you look amazing! >> i'm back. >> let me see. let me see. you got the dancing moves. >> reporter: 74-year-old elaine stevens returns to thank her doctor and nurses.
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she spent more than 40 days in this icu before walking out alive. >> i made it. a lot of days i didn't want to make it. but i did it. >> reporter: as she celebrated a second chance at life, the sermon for death was still playing out in a parking lot for this family. >> don't let this be you. if you truly love your loved ones, don't let this be you. continue to, you know, take all the precautions, take extra precautions. exaggerate if you have to. >> reporter: don't let this be you. don't let this be your family. and we are watching families suffer so excruciatingly. they're still coming up here. there are six ambulances who are waiting here to take patients into this hospital here at mlk jr. community hospital here in south l.a. and i do want to mention a couple of things. one, i want to name the two family members that juliann
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last. she lost her mother and her father, alberto reyes gonzalez. she was able to bury her mom. >> thank you, sara. and thanks to all of you. i hand it off now to anderson. good evening. the acting secretary of homeland security has resigned. the fbi is warning of a nationwide wave of protests. house democrats will vote on wednesday to make donald trump the first president to be impeached twice. we're learning more about the insurrection he incited and the more terrifying and sickening it becomes. what is also sickening is what we have learned from maggy haber man who reports that president trump is angrier at the professional golf association for pulling next year'