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hello, i'm kate bolduan and thank you for joining me this hour. it is friday and the final weekend of the donald trump presidency. it is also five days until joe biden inauguration and at this moment the threat of violence breaking out around this inauguration is very high. in washington and around the country. security andn d.c. is at levels not seen since the days after 9/11. the nation's capitol looks like a fortress with thousands of national guard troops already on patrol and more on the way. this morning a top trump administration official told cnn the rehearsal for the inaugural ceremony is being delayed due to the heightened security
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concerns. and also this just in. a new window in what the rioters really wanted to do as they were breaking into the u.s. capitol. a new court filing said federal prosecutors believe that the mob that seized the capitol intended to quote, capture and assassinate elected officials. plus "the washington post" is just now reporting that vice president mike pence was dangerously close to being directly in harm's way, much closer than initially thought. and there is also this. new firsthand accounts from the d.c. police who were among those attacked by the mob. >> i was just trying to fight as best i could. some guy started getting ahold of my gun and they were screaming out, you know, kill him with his own gun. >> we're going to hear more from the officers in just a second. but first i want to bring in jessica schneider for more on the detail of the intent to capture and kill that we're
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learning about in this court filing. jessica schneider, what are you learning about this. >> reporter: every revelation in the court filings seem to be more and more chilling. this is brand-new information from the detention memo against jacob chancely. one of the first to break inside of the capitol and his picture was seen all over social media. he's here. you could see him wearing a headdress and face paint and he carried a six foot spear. now prosecutors are now saying this in the court filing, strong evidence including his own words and actions at the capitol supports that the intent of the capitol rioters was to capture and assassinate elected officials in the united states government. chancely left a note on the senate chamber dais where mike pence has been presiding over the session just minutes before warning this -- it is only a matter of time, justice is coming. this is from that court filing. chilling words from chancely himself. and perhaps the most disturbing here is that his lawyer is
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saying that he was actually just answering the call of president trump and is now hoping for a presidential pardon. chancely also, according to his lawyer, planned to come back to d.c. next week but he is now in custody. so, kate, all of the details, they continue to unfold. this is all after the suspects are appearing in courtrooms all around the country. prosecutors releasing this evidence that they have against them and it is giving us more of a window into how determined and dangerous these people were, kate. >> and how the threat is still so very real as there are so many of them still out there. and then you also have new reporting from t"the washington post," shocking. we knew that mike pence like at house members were in danger, but just how close to danger mike pence was in, within seconds of being found by these rioters. what are you learning? >> perilously close, is how "the washington post" putting it. they pieced together a timeline and by their account mike pence, he was hustled oust of the
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senate chamber one minute, 60 seconds, before a group of rioters rushed into the second floor landing of the senate. "the washington post" saying that the vice president had ducked into an office hideaway that was left than 100 feet from that landing where the rioters had reached. and if they have gotten there maybe seconds earlier they have been in eye sight of the vice president. and this account is drawing question as to why the vice president was still presiding on the senate floor for an after they alerted that the capitol was being over run. especially because the vice president wasn't evacuated off the senate floor for 14 minutes after the breach of the capitol complex was reported. so we're talking about some very tight windows here, kate. including just one minute, perhaps, between when the rioters got up to the second floor overlooking the senate floor, and then they could have been within seconds of actually seeing the vice president.
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so a very dangerous situation that he just narrowly averted, it seems. >> thank you for that. and great for "the washington post" and great reporting on this one. thank you. so for the first time since the capital riots we're hearing what officers are saying and speaking out about their experiences which could only be described as terrifying. some of this is quite disturbing. shimon prokupecz has more. [ crowd chanting ] fwlncht in last week's deadly coup attempt at a capitol, a pro-trump mob swarmed the building and outnumbering police officers fighting to defend it. >> it was difficult to offer any resistance when you're only about 30 guys going up against 15,000. >> reporter: d.c. police officer michael fanown was in the group of the officers at the west front entrance of the capitol androters push him out into the crowd where he said he was
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tasered several times. while trapped, the 40-year-old said he thought about using his gun to fight back. >> some guys started getting ahold of my gun and they were screaming out, you know, kill him with his own gun. at that point, it was just like, self preservation. how do i survive this situation? and i thought about using deadly force and i thought about shooting people. and then i just came to the conclusion that if i was to do that, i might get a few, but i'm not going to take everybody and they're probably take my gup away from me and that would give them the justification they were looking for to kill me if they didn't already make that up in their minds. so the other option i thought of was try to appeal to somebody's humanity. and i just remember yelling out
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that i had kids and it seemed to work. some people in the crowd started to encircle me and try to offer me some level of protection. people have asked me my thoughts on the individuals in the crowd that -- that helped me or tried to offer some assistance, and i think kind of conclusion i've come to is like, thank you, but [ bleep ] you for being there. >> reporter: this horrifying video shows the moment that the violent mob stormed into a tunnel of the building. trapping and crushing d.c. metro police officer daniel hodges by a door. >> there is a guy ripping my mask off and he was able to rip away my baton and beat me with it and he was practically foaming at the mouth. these people were true believers in the worst way. >> when things were looking bad, i was calling out for all i was worth.
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and an officer behind me was able to give me enough room to pull me out of there and they brought me to the rear so i was able to extricate myself. >> reporter: hodges leaving at tack without any major injuries. saying he was shocked smxt rioters thought authorities would be on their side. >> the cognitive dissidence is unreal. they were waving the thin blue line flag and telling us we're not your enemy while they were attacking us and trying to kill one of us. some of them felt like that we would -- felt like we would be fast friend because so many of them had been volkle or virtue signaling their support for the police over the past year. they say things like we've been supporting you through all of the black lives patter stuff, should have our back and they felt entitled like they could walk up there and tell us they're here to take back
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congress and we would agree with them and walk in hand and hand and just take over the nation. but obviously that did not -- was not the case and will never be the case. >> reporter: the insurrectionist using means to break into the most secure areas of the u.s. capitol building. >> the individuals were pushing, shoving and hitting officers. they were spraying us with what we are calling bear -- it is essentially bear mace. it was two to three hours of heroism and bravery from these officers. i mean, the violence that they were -- they were getting hit with metal objects, metal poles. i remember seeing pitch forks. they're getting sprayed, knocked down and i remember just reinforcements just officers pulling officers back to heal up and then stepping in to get to front lines. >> reporter: and it is those heroic efforts, kate, that you hear the officer there describing that saved some
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lawmaker's lives. as we're learning that a lot of them were targeting lawmakers. we're told by lawmaker that the mpd, the washington, d.c. police, were instrumental in trying to allow the capitol police to move the leaders of our country out. is there hand to hand combat, going toe-to-toe with this vile, vicious crew, this mob that prevented them from entering further into the capitol and harming some of the lawmakers. >> it is unbelievable. but it is 100% reality. thank you to you and the producer with you, mark morales, for putting this together. joining me now is florida debbie wassermann schultz. thank you so much for coming in. i want to quickly if i could get back to what jessica schneider was just reporting about federal prosecutors saying in court filings that they believe that the intent of the rioters was to capture and kill elected officials like yourself. what is your reaction to that?
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>> that is just a chilling conclusion that we really in the week leading up to the domestic terror attack that was launched on the capitol last wednesday, we were warned as members to be very careful, to prepare to make sure we were moving in the tunnels and not outside of the capitol complex. and so to listen to the heroism of the mpd and our capitol police officers and what they went through that day, i really am so thankful for their valiant effort but they were failed by leadership who are gone and rightfully resigned. there needs to be a broad based congressional investigation in addition to the criminal investigations that are taking place. but the bottom line, kaite, is that this violence, this terror attack was fueled and incited by
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president trump and by at least two of my colleagues. lowy gom ert who i filed a censure against and mo brooks who i've asked now to do the same. there needs to be accountability. not just for the people who came and wreaked havoc in our capitol and jeopardized the lives of hundreds and hundreds of people, but on the individuals like the members of congress and president trump who we impeached yesterday who need to be held to account as well. >> you have been pushing specifically speaking about mo brooks, you have been pushing to move to a censure motion against him. why -- what do you think censure will do? why not move expulsion when you look at how serious these actions are? >> it almost seems like two trifolding of a punishment. i don't want louie gohmert to
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be -- he went on national television. the friday before that, after he lost his lawsuit where he was trying to overturn a legitimate election, and prevent joe biden and kamala harris from being inaugurated, and suggested on national television that violence was the only option for people who wanted to block president trump from leaving office. and then mo brooks went in front of the crowd and had thousands of angry trump supporters who he said should go down to the capitol and start kicking ass and taking names. an that is exactly what they did. these two individuals and likely more incited the crowd, urged them on and they at least deserve to be shamed in the well of the house of representatives as far as expulsion, i proposed censure because censure required a majority and it was -- i think expulsion is a bar that is not
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spg that will likely reach. i didn't want to distract from our ability to make sure that the shame that these -- that lowy gohmert and mo brooks brought on themselves and the office and the danger they put the leaders of our country in, needs to have consequences. >> you have a couple of colleagues who have raised concern that members of congress were even showing around some of the rioters wittingly or unwittingly in the days ahead of the riot. do you think it is hard to -- it is hard to say it again, but do you think this was somehow an inside job. do you leave open that possibility. >> the answer is yes i leave open the possibility. i think anything is possible. when i watched colleagues of mine who in abundance of caution, we have magnetometers
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who got in the face of the capitol police even after what we went through last wednesday who are continuing to defy the rules that we need to be in place to keep people safe. and anything is possible. and we did -- we do know that there were republican members of congress giving tours the night before. but we don't know what the purpose of the tours were and it is just chilling that that is even a possibility and it needs to be investigated. >> and washington post is reporting that dozens people on a terror watch list were a majority were white supremacists look for the camp auschwitz guy that was picked up by police. you are from florida, have you thought about in the days after, what this could have meant for you if they found you? >> yeah. being in my office on lockdown and having the enunciator come on for the first time in 16 years of service and telling us to lock our offices and stay in the doors and this woe needed to
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be quiet and then watching them breach the capitol and know that the tunnels are connected to the office buildings, it was a frightening experience and seeing the bomb squads across the parking lot from my office window. it was real fear. and i think we're all suffering some ptsd, but i want to tell you, that video that cnn has been showing where there was a mega phone bashed through a window and a woman is on that mega phone telling people that are inside that there is an office just below that they could drop down and take the capitol. that is my hearing room. i chair a subcommittee in appropriations, that is the hearing room where my committee meets. the fact that this was quite likely and intention by many in this crowd to take the capitol as that woman said, to harm and even kill my colleagues and as many people as they could to try to stop the peaceful transition
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of power. you're damn right donald trump was impeached on wednesday. needs to be removed from office as soon as possible. he is a clear and present danger and those that aids and abet him including my colleagues that might have participated in some way need to be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law. >> i had no idea that was your committee. that is terrifying. thank you so much for coming on. >> thank you. come up for us, the view of washington today. lockdown in a way that we have not seen since after the 9/11 attacks. we'll take you there. plus today president-elect biden will announce more details on his plan to fight the covid pandemic. his goal, 100 million vaccinations in the first 100 days. how is he going to get there? flexball designed to get virtually every hair on the first stroke, while washing away dirt and oil. so you're ready for the day with a clean shave and a clean face.
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unprecedented security is now in place and more is on the way in washington, d.c. the very real threat ahead of the inauguration casting a shadow over joe biden's swearing in ceremony five days from now. pete muntean is live in d.c. for us on the streets of d.c. once again. pete, what are you seeing? >> reporter: kate, the layer after layer of security says it all. this is pennsylvania avenue. now pretty much deserted right now. the road blocks here stretch for miles. this would typically be the parade route from the capitol to the white house. now almost completely empty. if someone did make it this far and this is about as close as one could get to the capitol, first they'd be met by the eight foot tall fence that surrounded the perimeter and going around the national mall. and then this 12 foot fence based in concrete is going up more and more all of the time. then there is one more perimeter on the inside, another fence.
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this one topped with razor wire. we have learned that an inauguration rehearsal set for sunday has now been moved to monday. security officials here say that the threat is a very real one. >> some of the online chatter that you and i were talking about before talks about sunday the 17th, again no specific incredible threats but the chattered focused on that day is something we're paying close attention to and so i think that the decision was made to delay a day. >> reporter: the pentagon said it specifically is concerned about more improve issed explosive devices like the pipe bombs found outside of the rnc and dnc. but take a look at deserted pennsylvania avenue. gone, the bunting, the port-o-potties and the jumbo-tron and maybe even the crowds for the inauguration like no other, kate. >> pete, thank you. all across the country,
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states are on high alert preparing for the potential for the tate capitols. in virginia they're focused on two locations. capitol in richmond and the pentagon located in northern virginia just outside of washington, d.c. joining me now is virginia attorney general mark herring. thank you for coming back on. how concerned are you about violence in georgivirginia righ? >> thank you for having me. what we saw on january 6th with domestic terrorists taking over the capitol was a national disgrace and a desecration of the symbol of our democracy and the cul pinmination of a presid marked by violence. and words matter an we're seeing that in realtime. we are seeing potential threats not just in the capitol but in state capitols and other locations around the country. here in virginia we are taking this very, very seriously. my team and i are in
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communication with the fbi, state police, capitol police, richmond police. and while we're not seeing specific threats, we're taking it very seriously. and something that we learned from that horrific unite -- the white supremacist rally in charlotte in august of 2017, you could not overprepare and you must take these threats from white supremacists extremists very seriously. and we are. >> and that is an appropriate horrible comparison, right. that virginia has had to face. the fbi director talked for the first time yesterday since the siege on the capitol and he talked about the -- he described it as extensive online chatter that they are concerned about. you could talk to me a little bit and give us a window into what you all are doing to prepare for what could be attempts at a repeat in richmond, perhaps?
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>> well i've been sounding the alarm for years. even before the white supremacist rally in charlotteville in 2017, about the threat that white supremacists extremists pose. not just as a costic element in society, which is serious enough, but also to public safety. and so we are taking it seriously, coordinating with local police, capitol police, state police. the capitol is boarded up. capitol square has been closed. permits for rallies that were planned have been canceled. state buildings around capitol square have been boarded up, including my own office. so we are taking these threats very seriously. we are in contact and communication with law enforcement that is monitoring a lot of the online conversations that are happening. right now we're hopeful that nothing like what we saw happens
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again. and a year ago this time we saw what seemed like a dress rehearsal in richmond. it is what is called lobby day. and pro-gun groups showed up in order to protest reasonable gun safety prevention measures that the legislator -- the legislature was taking up and while there were -- was violence, there was in fact i think due to the preparation that had gone into it, as well as a lot of hard work and planning. the fbi had arrested individuals that came to plan for a race war. it seemed like the private militia groups have been a part of what happened on january 6th were there. and we all have to take these thr threats very seriously. and the politicians that continue to perpetuate the lies and fan the flames of these
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forces are also need to be held accountable. a state senator from virginia who is a gubernatorial candidate led to some of the insurrection on january 6th and addressed crowd and yesterday she attempted to defend herself saying she was honored to be there. how is that, to say you're honored to be somewhere where at least five people were killed and people were prancing around the united states capitol with confederate flag and wearing shirts that are anti-semitic and what runs through it all is white supremacy and we have to take these threats seriously and hole those elected officials repeating the lies accountable. >> thank you for coming on. >> thank you, kate, stay safe? moments from now we'll hear from nancy pelosi. she'll be taking questions from reporters for the first time
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speaker nancy pelosi. this the first time that she's going to be taking questions from reporters since the house voted to impeach president trump. and as we're getting also a new and more terrifying perspective on how grave the threat was to lawmakers' lives when the mob breached the capitol. we'll bring you that as soon as it begins. but also today, president-elect joe biden, will roll out his details plan of how to hit his goal of getting 100 million americans vaccinated against covid. that is a big hill to climb as of this morning, only 11 million people have gotten covid shots, also in the first 100 days. biden wants a majority of elementary and middle schools reopened for in-person learning. he wanted to dedicate hundreds of billion dollars to hit these goals as he laid out in the nearly $2 trillion covid relief package. of course he needs congress to
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do that. joining me is dr. asheesh jha. begin how the vaccine roll out is well behind expectations so far, do you think 100 million vaccinations in the first 100 days is possible. >> thanks for having me on. i do think it is possible. certainly not going to be easy. the trump administration has really managed unfortunately botched the rollout. so the biden team is going to have a lot of work to do. and i don't expect in the first few days he'll be hitting a million a day. but if we put our energy and resources into it we could hit that. and i want them to beat that because we need to get as many people vaccinated as quickly as possible. >> dr. jonathan reiner told cnn that he thought 100 million shots in 100 days wasn't enough in terms of what we need to get past the pandemic and he was talking the need for 2 million
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shots aday to get to herd immunity. do you agree. >> i do. i think he is right. right now we want shotted into amany people as possible. we're in a very bad situation. we have hundreds of thousands of people getting infected every day. the question is what is possible and realistic. everything out of the biden team is pretty aggressive approach to both vaccine supply and distribution problems so let's hope that we beat the million a day. >> in tandem to that, biden's goal as he laid out early as getting majority of schools reopened in the first 100 days, with that and where we are, is that feasible? >> i do -- again, i think these are all feasible things but one of the problems of the last year that's been that the trump administration has tried to scrimp on these things that have made it difficult to do these hard things. schools have to be open. they're safe and we could make them safe. but they require resources, they
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require work. and the problem with the trump team has been they never wanted to put any resources or work into gets these things done. are these things doable in absolutely. and there are no higher priorities in my mind than getting people vaccinated and k kids back to school. >> and it matters who you put if charge at the top, no matter who the president is. and joe biden has announced a few new key kind of assignments to lead the effort. dr. david kessler to lead the vaccine effort and andy slavic to come in and as help as well. do you think they have expertise to fix the problems. >> there is a long standing tradition in american government that when republicans are in the office, they put conservative leaning but competent people in key leadership position and democrats put liberal leading but competent people.
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the trump administration had a lot of people in leadership roles who had no experience, no ability to do their job. that is what slowed us down. dr. kessler was run the fda and competent and effective and known for getting stuff done. he is a really important part of getting vaccine out to the american people. >> thank you to you. >> >> that you. coming up, an expert rant and shrinking circle of allies. the president's final days in office including his anger over being compared to that former president, richard nixon.
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wild we celebrate and observe martin luther king day monday, today is actually the martin luther king's birthday. and as we observe it in this extraordinary time, it is important to remember his words. all of them so appropriate. one time or another. today i remember him saying true peace is not merely the absence of tension, it is the presence of justice. i particularly am drawn to that phrase because one of my favorites that i had in my office is pope paul vi an said if you want peace, work for justice. the connection is very clear. justice is called for as we address the act of insurrection
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that was perpetrated against the capitol complex last week. right now our managers are solemnly and prayerfully preparing for the trial which they will take to the senate. at the same time, we are in transition. with a covid relief package, president-elect biden announced last night, he is delivering on what he said when he was elected. help is on the way. his plan makes big, bold urgent action, building on some of our democratic initiatives and the last congress including an increase in direct payments to $2,000, vaccine distribution and testing support in a fair and equitable way addressing the disparities in access, additional aid for small businesses, funding for state
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and local governments to protect our heroes' jobs, extension of unemployment benefits help for renters, for foodin secure people and for our children. as the last jobs report of the trump administration shows, the need could not be more urgent. moody analytics said this morning, they say that this package the rescue and recovery package put forth by joe biden last night, this package will take us to full employment by 2021. one full year earlier than it would occur without it. 2021 versus 2022. one full year earlier. in just five days, joe biden and kamala harris will be sworn in as president and vice president
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of the united states. following the attack last week on the capitol complex, there has been unprecedented mobilization of security in the capitol. i want to express gratitude to our capitol police, to the national guard, who are present here to protect our democracy. they have shown great courage and we're very proud of them and i was honored to be able to extend gratitude to them in person on behalf of the congress. we must subject this whole complex, though, to scrutiny in light of what happened and the fact that the inauguration is coming. to that send, i have asked retired lieutenant general russell honora to lead an immediate review of security infrastructure, interagency processes and command and
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control. the general is a respected leader with experience dealing with crises. as a former vice director of operations, j-3, with the joint chiefs of staff, his focus with military support to civilian authorities, military support to civilian authorities and he has experience with national capitol regions security. house leadership has welcomed general honora seen up close and personal his excellent leadership at the time of katrina, particularly the head of the katrina task force. so he and i and others know full well how fortunate we are that the general has accepted, is willing to do this. members are moving forward from oversight committees of course to have after action review. there is strong interest in the congress and the 9/11 type
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commission and outside commission to conduct that after action review. in the meantime, i'm very grateful to general honora for taking on this responsibility. i find this to be a very emotional time. i said to the members, we're very passionate to the reaction to this assault on our democracy on this temple to democracy. we're very passionate about our reaction, but we must be very dispassionate in how we make decisions to go forward, for security, security, security. as i see many of the film and the incitement of it all by the president of the united states, but as you see the film, one figure of so many disgusting
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images, but one figure, the man in a shirt with auschwitz on it. auschwitz. work equals freedom for auschwitz. in this january, one year ago, i had the privilege of bringing a delegation in january to yard verb em, the museum in the holocaust in israel, to join heads of state, i came as head of the congress, to observe the 75th anniversary of the liberation of auschwitz. on the way to israel, i brought the delegation to auschwitz and
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berkenow. probably one of the most transformative national security visits that we have made. all of our travel outside of the country is about our national security. and so was that. to see the dehumanizing of people, that was perpetrated there was so, so overwhelming. to see this punk with that shirt on and his anti-semitism that he has bragged about, to be part of a white supremacist raid on this capitol requires us to have an after action review to assign responsibility to those who were part of organizing it and insent vising it. in the meantime, we're grateful
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to the general for making some recommendations to us and how we could keep our members safe and our staff safe. the people who make the building function, like the custodians and the rest, who had to clean up after this insurrectionist mob. but security, we take an oath to protect and defend the constitution. our democracy, and that is what we will do. and we will protect all of those who are here to honor their >> can you tell us a couple things on scheduling? is there any update on when you might send the articles of impeachment to the senate? and secondly, how president-elect biden might take up the recovery package?
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>> we'll start with that. we're very pleased with what the vice president put forth last night. i'm eagerly awaiting some of the particulars of the vaccine proposal that will come out this afternoon, because this is a matter of complete urgency. as the vice president said last night, this administration, the trump administration, handled the distribution of the vaccine in a very disappointing way. he used stronger language. but now we have to move on and do it in the right way, and that will require resources which will require legislation. how it will be done effectively, we'll know more about. i have some idea about it because we made some suggestions in that regard, but i think the message of last night and later today from the vice president will be a message of hope to
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encourage people to, again, when it's appropriate for them to receive the vaccine to do so. but as was said, as will be said, it's not just about the vaccine, it's about testing and distancing and all the rest as we go forward so that we can crush the virus, which is what we must do, crush the virus so we can open our schools and our businesses, honor our heroes who are on the front line of this, our health care workers, our police and fire first responders, transportation, sanitation, food workers, our teachers, our teachers, our teachers, and put money in the pockets of the american people so that the lives and the livelihood of american people are addressed. so we're hoping that we can work in a bipartisan way as we go forward. in terms of the timing, as i mentioned, one week ago, on
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january 6th, there was an active insurrection perpetrated on the capitol of the united states incentivized by the president of the united states. one week later, wednesday to wednesday, that president was impeached in a bipartisan way by the house of representatives. so urgent was the matter they're now working on taking this to trial, and you'll be the first to know when we announce that we're going over there. yes, ma'am. >> reporter: madam speaker, so a number of house democrats mentioned a couple investigations that have been going on since january 6, but a member of the press sent a letter asking them to look into gop members who may have helped them get into the capitol on
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january 6th. is there a timeline of action that may be taken for members that helped them in the capitol on january 6? >> when we talk about security, we have to talk about truth and trust. in order to serve here for each other, we must have trust that people have respect for the oath of office, respect for this institution. we must trust each other, respecting the people who sent us here. we must also have the truth, and that will be looked into. if, in fact, it is found that members of congress were accomplices to this insurrection, if they aided and abetted the crime, there may have to be actions taken beyond the congress in terms of prosecution for that.
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yes, sir. >> we all are seeing extraordinary security measures now in place here on the capitol, and it really grasped much of the district. i'm just wondering your level of comfort about that arrangement. >> let me just say -- thank you for the question. as a member of the committee that prepares the inauguration, for a long time now, weeks, it has been determined that we would have a very small inauguration because of covid, that in order to have the distancing and the rest on the platform and then some people down below, it would be necessary to limit it. i don't know if they had publicly released the numbers. i won't, but a very small number of people, tiny percentage of the people who participated before. most disappointing, because obviously we're excited about nominating a new president of
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the united states. but not at the risk of people's health and well-being and, indeed, their lives. so this was always going to be small. now with the insurrection of last week, it is necessitated by security to have more security, but it hasn't changed the nature of the swearing in. i think it's important for people to know that this is not a concession to the terrorists, it is a recognition of the danger of covid. so, again, i'm in close touch -- i will be again for like the third time in two days with the secretary of the army, spoke with the head of the secret service last night. we all want to be sure that the requests that are made by the capitol police are being honored by those who are in a position to meet the needs.
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again, it depends on the intelligence, and we have to have more security than the intelligence might warrant. i think in this case redundancy may be necessary. not too much, but enough. >> reporter: first off, the republicans are saying as far as the metal detectors are concerned that the danger on the 6th came from the outside, not the inside. and secondly, as far as the speaker's lobby is concerned, when can we expect that to be open for us, and will it be when the pandemic ends? and when do you see that happening as far as -- >> it won't be one minute before it is safe to do so from a covid and a security standpoint or one minute later than that. yes, sir. >> reporter: madam speaker, will
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representative ryan's subcommittee be investigating the capitol police? >> tim ryan? the legislative branch of the appropriations committee, yes. >> reporter: at the very minimum, what would you like to see in reforms of u.s. capitol police, especially in light of allegations from members of the caucus of institutional racism within the police force and also maybe even collusion in the insurrection? what reforms would you like to see? >> i think the investigation is central. that has to come first. but there will be, in addition to mr. chairman ryan's committee, we have homeland security committee, we have issues that relate to intelligence, from judiciary and intelligence committee, we have the armed services committee. so there will be a full -- the committees will be doing their
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oversight in many different ways, and of course the appropriations committee and the oversight committee have overarching responsibility. but, again, the investigation will tell us what we need to know to have truth so that we can trust the system that we have here. and it is -- it's so sad. imagine, like, ten days ago. as i said, we really lost our innocence in this because we always prepared to protect and defend from all enemies foreign. but the constitution also says "and domestic." and now we have to protect ourselves from enemies domestic. how close within the investigation will let us know. >> reporter: are you considering withholding the articles indefinitely? >> i'm john king in washington. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the
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world. you're watching the speaker of the house nancy pelosi leaving a room, a news conference, a remarkable news conference. several headlines out of it. many are related to last week's insurrection at the united states capitol connected to concerns and heightened security for next week, inauguration of joe biden as the next president of the united states. the speaker also taking questions about the next stage of the impeachment drama here in washington. the house, of course, has impeached donald trump fire second time, president trump for a second time. the speaker said she had no update on when the house managers would carry the article of impeachment over to the senate and push for a trial. she said that was still tbd as we head now into this remarkable period of time. five days until joe biden takes the oath of office, president trump four to five days in the capitol city of washington. let's speak with our cnn political correspondent dana bash. she said they're honoring ret retired general.
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he had a role in katrina, that he will lead an investigation. what went wrong? how did those rioters so easily get into the united states capitol? and she also said it is a legitimate question for her and she wants answers. some of her democratic members have raised concerns that republican members of congress actually gave tours to some of the insurrectionists the day before and perhaps shared with them non-public information about offices, doors in the capitol that you know well from your years there, but if you walk by, you don't know that's a senior member's office. it's called a hideaway office and the like. she said she wanted to know if members of congress are accomplices, if they aided and a babetted the insurrection on their own workplace. >> hearing the speaker of the house talk about that and referring to her colleagues is absolutely stunning but necessary. necessary given all of the reporting that we are doing, what we are hearing about the ss
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