i don't understand this. how does that happen? >> some of this may be semantics. a reserved stockpile versus held-back second doses. they may be two different things. but what's infuriating about it is you remember the incoming administration basically said as part of their plan, they would not hold back any stockpile of doses, and that idea was sort of dismissed by current administration. and then the current administration says, you know what, we will also release the stockpile. so states understandably were expecting a surge of vaccine doses. and then it came out today, as you mentioned, that there is, in fact, no stockpile, so there is no surge of doses going to the states and many states are understandably upset. at the same time we heard from pfizer saying, we do, in fact, have second doses which we've now been told to start shipping.

so bottom line, anderson, i do think there will be more doses going to these states. these are the second doses as opposed to a sort of held-back reserve stockpile. >> and now they said they can start vaccinating people 65 or older. there aren't enough doses to expand it to all the people, so what needs to happen to expand the rollout? >> there's several things. we've seen this now because we've seen what goes wrong so far. one thing, you want to broaden the criteria, people over age 65, but you have to have these places where people can get the vaccine. people really don't know where to go get the vaccine, who to call, how this all works right now. that's got to change. some of this we heard in president-elect biden's speech, this idea of having vaccination fairs and community outreach clinics. on day one they say fema is going to start these community outreach clinics, they're going to have hundreds of them, they

say. we have to have more health care workers. the simple process of having enough people pushing shots into arms, that's been a limiting step. calling on the commission corps, even asking if tired health care professionals want to come back and do this sort of work for some time. maybe the pharmacies as well, they could certainly add a lot to this effort. collectively all the pharmacies could probably do close to 100 million doses a month. these are the sorts of things that need to happen. >> sanjay, thank you very much. appreciate it. news continues. i'll hand it over to chris for cuomo "prime time." this is the last week you may wonder what the president what case chaos will do as your president. there is radio silence right now, and that's good, because we have a lot of new information, so let's get after it. trump's insurrectionists, and we have every reason to call them that, as you'll hear tonight.

they may have only been seconds is way from reaching the vice president and the cabinet. they demanded to know where the vote was being counted. then a brave lone officer saves the day by luring them away. watch. >> you work for us! >> where are they meeting at ? >> that guy deserves a medal,

especially being who he was in the face of who was opposing him. the "washington post" reports pence was hiding less than 100 feet from that landing. zip tie cuffs were the least of their plans. a chance of "hang mike pence"! one of them allegedly left a threatening note for the vp thanks to trump throwing him under the bus lying that he could and should change the election result. and failed. guess who allegedly left that note? the guy with the horns on his head, the face paint and the 6-foot spear, the one who calls himself the qanon shaman. jacob's note read, quote, it's only a matter of time. justice is coming. and yet, the mob who trump says he loves, they may wind up being his worst enemy and house managers' best hope. why? you heard chansley's lawyer say

that trump said, he told me to come to the capitol. he invited us. while it may not help the horn-headed heathen in court, it may be very powerful proof in a political trial of trump. why? because trump is going to argue that his words could be taken different ways. they weren't directions. but here, followers like this guy are removing all doubt saying they attacked our democracy because trump said to. and this kooky guy is not a runoff. -- one off. that may not be the strongest basis for your case, this guy. tonight we have a far more normal-looking person who claims the same for why he went to the capitol and did bad things. now, this is not about giving

these people a platform to spin. it is about setting gop-ers straight at trial about the truth of trump's role. and what irony. trump's most ardent followers may prove to be his undoing. more ironic still, their biggest impact will be what he denied them, speaking the truth. now, there is a bigger picture here. trump brought this on himself, to be sure, but he did not act alone. and there are growing concerns about inside help from members of congress. investigators are looking into accusations some may have given tours to members of that mob in the days before. why? speaker pelosi suggests there should be criminal charges if any lawmaker helped with this. >> if, in fact, it is found that members of congress were accomplices to this

insurrection, if they aided and abetted the crime, there may have to be actions taken beyond the congress in terms of prosecution for that. >> i don't know about that. we'll only know what they show. but here's what's clear. the capitol was not properly defended. the question there is, why not? is this about incompetence or something worse? they simply can't say they didn't know. why? there's new reporting tonight from the "washington post" that an internal capitol police intelligence report, capitol police intelligence report, warned three days before the attack of a violent scenario in which congress itself could be the target of angry trump supporters. three days. let's dig deeper with a member of congress who had a narrow escape that day, democrat sean patrick maloney from new york. good to see you safe, brother.

>> good to be with you, chris. >> the first question goes to the idea of this new reporting. did you know about this report that was made in advance? >> are you talking about the capitol police report? >> yes. >> no. first i heard. but i have to tell you, the whole thing smacks of a bunch of agencies trying to get it right. it's a huge miss on everyone's part. i spoke to the sergeant of arms personally two hours after the attack, and he told me they expected a peaceful protest and my jaw hit the ground. i think anybody who was looking would have seen all kinds of warning signs, so there needs to be a dispassionate and thorough investigation, and the rest of this, i think, is just people trying to get -- >> so the memo concluded that january 6 purported to be a danger because of the size of the crowds, the group's mission,

the call to bring lethal weapons, the two largest protests in proximity to capitol grounds, and the fact that both had been promoted by president trump himself. i can't think of another example of so many different layers saying the same thing and nothing happening. capitol police, fbi, u.s. intel, ngos that serve these kinds of haters. what do you make of it? >> i think it's a massive failure. i think you would have to go back to 9/11 to find a similar failure that was so comprehensive. those of us that were there the day before, the morning of, we could tell something was wrong. they had a bike rack up and tens of thousands of these guys around the city in pickup trucks circling the capitol. we could tell something was going to happen. some of my colleagues wore sneakers that day because they thought they might have to run. i think it was obvious for anybody who was looking at the

president had assembled a mob and brought them to washington, was inciting them and he sent them to the capitol and they did exactly what he wanted. it was the republicans in washington who share that in the congress, who perpetuated this lie that the election was stolen, by putting the vice president's life at risk making him look like he was doing something wrong when, in fact, he was doing his constitutional duty. those actions and those intentions were clear, i think, so i don't know how they missed it. i just don't know how it happened. >> the question is whether or not they just did a bad job or they did a bad job on purpose. and we'll see. how powerful do you think members of the mob saying, i came here and did this because the president was saying i should. how powerful do you think that will be in a political trial? >> yeah, i don't know. i think that this is one of those things where the evidence is overwhelming that the president incited this violence. the members of the senate are

just going to make a political decision. they're frankly deciding, are they with the mob or are they with the constitution? it would be really great if, starting with mitch mcconnell on down, they could stand up at this late hour for what is right. it may be that their cynicism, their belief that the path back to power leads away from trump, will fuel some of them to finally now distance themselves from president trump. but i don't know. but we've done our duty in the house. i'm proud of that, i'm proud we had some republicans stand with us, but we had far too many republicans in the house who had aided and abetted this disaster, and they should be held accountable. >> aided and abetted. what does that mean to you in terms of other than backing trump and the vote to not certify? do you think there is a chance that any of your colleagues had anything to do with making it easier for the mob? >> i think there's enough out there to be investigated.

colleagues of mine saw members and staff taking people around. i personally didn't see that. i think we should look into it. it shouldn't be that hard to ask these members what they were doing, who they were with to check out those people. that will all be a known thing. we should look into it. but what is clear is that they have been engaging in other conduct that is horrific. it is no small thing to spread a lie that an election was stolen, to make it seem as though there is a monstrous evil being done when, in fact, it's our peaceful transfer of power. by the way, they're bragging about bringing guns to the congress, they're shoving capitol police officers refusing to go through the metal detectors literally a couple days after those same capitol police officers saved all of our lives. what kind of crop of crazy has come to the congress in this new season that this is what we're dealing with, and many of them are conspiracy theorists who are following this qanon nonsense. there are reasons to look at the

actions of these members. >> so much for anti-elitist. they won't even go through a metal detector, they're too good for that. do you believe any of these men or women could pose a threat to you seriously? personally. >> after january 6th, i don't think we're taking any chances. i don't think anything is too much at this point. that's why you're seeing robust police appearance at the capitol, that's why all these people investigated and tracked down. i think if colleagues have tough questions to answer, they should answer them. we're talking about the fundamental safety of the president-elect and the vice president-elect. these people will be up close to them at the inauguration. >> guns right advocate, qanon sympathizer, not a good sign. she tweeted, sean maloney made comments about me that led to death threats and hundreds of vile phone calls and e-mails. his comments were shameful and

dangerous. response? >> do you know to do the punchline? the punchline is i didn't say a name. they are so incompetent. i said i didn't have firsthand knowledge. but she did make a video saying she was going to bring a gun to congress. so if you're going to be a gun nut, you shouldn't go off half-cocked. i never mentioned her with respect to giving tours. she has other things to answer for. it is her mixture of incompetence and arrogance that is the hallmark of so many of these trump followers. >> how do you do business in this environment if there is literally an open chance, not that they may be out to get you policywise, but out to get you personally? >> come on, what are we talking about? these guys are not as tough as they say they are. they're not ten feet tall. you're talking about a bunch of people who believe in conspiracy theories. frankly, i wouldn't trust them to drive my kids to the airport. there are more serious people in washington still that we can do

serious things. we've got a pandemic taking 4,000 americans a day. i'm so glad the vice president -- excuse me, the president-elect came out today and gave that very powerful speech laying out a real plan to have a real national priority around vaccine, around better testing, around things we should have been doing for months. that's the adult in the room and there's republicans that understand we have work to do. we can work with the new president to get the serious issues addressed. but there also needs to be accountability for what happened on the 6th, and we can do both. >> look, we never needed better out of government than we do right now, and it's never been a worse environment. we'll be watching very closely. congressman, sean patrick maloney, god bless you and be well. >> thank you. coming up, we have another body blow to trump's chances at trial. i want to show you the face of his potential biggest enemy, next.

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just text listen 8 to 500500. there's a very interesting development going on in the criminal investigation. you have 275 criminal cases now open in the capitol riot probe, right? 100 people are in custody. most face federal charges. that had seemed like the lowest fruit to me. they have to do this,

absolutely, law and order for real, but there are much more tough calls to be made about who helped and trump himself. now i was wrong. because what we're hearing from these people about why they did something, it may be out of convenience to try to help their cause. i don't know that it will work in a court of law. but with what trump's facing, each time somebody says, i did this bad thing and i'll tell you why, and it leads to trump and what he thought or she thought trump was telling them to do, it is bad. that includes the words of robert sanford. these are shots of the retired firefighter from pennsylvania in the crowd. okay? he just retired in 2020. prosecutors say he's the person seen in the video throwing a fire extinguisher at a group of officers. it hits an officer in the head, ricochets, hits two others. court documents say sanford had, quote, followed the president's instructions and gone to the

capitol. he's facing four counts, knowingly entering and remaining in restricted grounds without lawful authority, disorderly or disruptive conduct on capitol grounds, civil disorder, and assaulting, resisting or impeding certain officers while engaged in the performance of official duties. his lawyer joins me now. counselor, good evening. >> good evening. >> the easier call is that's the guy in the video. they did what they say he did. and your argument is he had a good reason to do it or a justification for doing it? how so? >> well, i'm not going to say it's just a convenience when trump incited the riot and incited the people to go down there. it's accurate. this is actually what took place. my client, mr. sanford, is 55 years old. hasn't been to the capitol since he was 13 years old.

he's a retired firefighter who served his communities for 26 years. he had just retired in march. he is a trump supporter, and it was told to him that there was a bus, a free bus, that was going down to the capitol for the rally. so you know and i know and everyone knows that this rally was a good mile, mile and a half away from the capitol building. so he goes down there, he's got a backpack on, he's got some water and some snacks in his backpack and he's simply there to support his president. he's there to do a peaceful protest. >> hold on a second, hold on a second. i'm with you. there's a bus, come on down, go to the capitol. okay. it was made easy. nobody told him to become a thug and an insurrectionist and pick up a fire extinguisher, toss it at cops and then make his way into a melee to get into the cradle of our democracy. >> well, that is partly true. but what i'm going to tell you is that when you look at what took place, when they're hearing from the president, he's the

commander in chief, and he's telling them to fight and stand up for your country and protect the constitution and all these things. he was there to be at that rally. next thing you know they're being told to go down to the capitol building. so he walks for 20, 25 minutes with thousands of people. he gets down there. he's at the back of the building. so, you know, it's very important to separate mr. sanford from some of the other things that were shown. he was not walking around with a 6-foot spear, he was not, you know, physically attacking capitol officers -- >> he hit them in the head with a fire extinguisher. >> the first thing i'm going to say about that is this fire extinguisher was empty. you can see it bounces almost toy-like. there was debris and stuff being thrown everywhere. >> come on, come on, enrique, give me a break. i hit you in the head with an empty fire extinguisher, you're going to feel good about it? it's a crime, it's a felony, and we both know it.

the guy did bad things. the guy did bad things. he did them knowingly, he did them wantonly, and he might van explanation. that's the part i care about. what do you know about this guy that makes him legit to you that he really felt the president want him to do that crap? >> because why else would you have someone who has never been in trouble before, he's a family man, father of three, never intended to be a part of anything. unlike your former guest that was just on, he was not there the night before. he got there 6:30 in the morning. the bus left, he got there at 9:00. he got there, he wasn't staying overnight, there was a bus that was going to be there in a couple hours and they were leaving. there were plenty of robert sanfords in this situation. we're not talking about random yahoos who put their feet on the desk and stole things and walked around with a spear and actively pummelling capitol officers. we're talking about people who got involved in a moblike

situation who threw some things. what he did was wrong, absolutely. but that's not who he is as a person. >> then why did he do it? >> he's been on reserve for 55 years. what is his track railroad? record? he served his community, he doesn't have a record -- >> that goes to sentencing. why did he do it? >> i'm saying he got caught up in the moment. there were things everywhere, debris everywhere. he picked something up and he regrets it. no officer was hurt in that incident. >> then it's lucky. because he threw a heavy metal item at their head. what i'm saying is how real is his commitment to the idea that trump wanted me to do this? i was doing what my president told me to do. is that real or is that convenience? >> it's not convenience, because when you're going to a rally that's a mile and a half away and then you find yourself a mile and a half down at the capitol building, you're only

there because you're being told by your commander in chief and your president to go down there, stand up for your country. chris, listen, obama was my guy, okay? if i went to an obama rally and obama was sitting there saying, hey, i was disenfranchised, they stole my votes, they did all these things, i want you to head down to the capitol building, i go down to the capitol building -- >> and you throw a fire extinguisher at my head? >> i'm not saying i throw a fire extinguisher at your head, but you have to be that position to understand. he was in the back. he was not part of the people in the front. he was not part of an organized -- >> and you would testify that he believes 100% in his heart is what he was told to do by the president. >> what i'm saying is when he did what he did, he regretted what he did. he was very remorseful. he turned himself in to the fbi,

when he found out nobody got hurt he was lucky in that sense, and when he saw what he did, he was very embarrassed to be in this situation. once again, you have to separate what people did, individuals. what he did was wrong. what he did was wrong, absolutely. and by the luck, as you put it, no one got hurt. but what he did and who he is is two different things. when you have someone who has never been arrested before, and when you have someone that made a micro mistake in a long life of doing the right thing, i'm saying that that matters. >> it will at sentencing. i'm just saying he might have larger political significance than this will help him legally, but we'll see, i'll follow the case. enrique latoison, i appreciate you making the case. thank you. >> thank you. >> let me tell you the value in this. i do not think this is going to help this guy, okay? you are what you do in the eyes of the law.

and your intent is going to be pretty specific and could have been formed right in that moment. however, if everything that latoison says about this guy is true, and there is one after another of i shouldn't have done it, i shouldn't have done it, but i was told this is where i should be and there were all these people around me, and they were saying, this is for trump, we have to do it for trump. you bring those affidavits of people in at a political trial and they have to listen man after woman all in their base saying that, but for trump telling me, i wouldn't have done that, i thought that's what you wanted me to do. it could change the tone and tenor which is all about what senators feel like doing. there is no burden of proof. there is no standard. it sounds like law, but it isn't. it's politics in that room. that's why it matters, and that's why a guy who is a 20-year firefighter, who is a trumper, who could live on your

block does something like this and he says that's why? this could mean a lot more to trump than it will mean to him. and to be clear, trump brought this on himself. but these are the people that he said he loved. and now they could bring him down. what could this mean? let's bring in the great minds, next. at philadelphia, we know what makes the perfect schmear of cream cheese. the recipe we invented over 145 years ago and me...the world's best, and possibly only, schmelier.

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since this is donald trump's last friday as president, you would think he would be working on covid or talking with republicans on next moves or doing everything he can to tell the supporters to stand down as we get closer to the inauguration. no, he already said that once. that's enough. instead he is said to be planning his vengeance on the republican congressmen and women who voted to impeach him and meeting with the pillow guy. let's discuss the state of play with van jones and michael smerconish. van, interesting development here. senator lankford saying, i didn't know that challenging the vote would be offensive to black people. the only places they're challenging the vote are in the black populations centers. biden won and overperformed in a lot of suburbs.

they're not complaining about that. your take. >> well, i mean, that was obvious from the very beginning that there was a sort of code going on. oh, it's about philadelphia, it's about philadelphia. the crazy thing is trump actually did better in philadelphia and did better with black people in philadelphia in 2020 than he did in 2016, where he was getting beaten is when a bunch of white suburbanites were moving in the opposite direction. and never talked about it. we're not dealing with facts or reality. we're dealing with some other narrative that when democrats win, it's because black people cheat. that is what they were playing into, even though that was, in fact, not the reason they lost a bunch of those states. >> do you want in on this or can i ask you about something else, smerc?

>> look, there was a race in philadelphia, it did not cut this hard and it crossed racial lines. you know the expression of who have gone away. believe me, they have been white and they have been black. >> let me ask you something else. do you think i'm wrong about the potential value of person after person saying, yeah, i went to the capitol, i did what they say i did, but i did it because that's what trump wanted me to do. at a political trial, how powerful could that be? >> the question to me? >> yeah. >> the answer is very powerful. here's what i think, chris. i think it's more about polls than it is about evidence. the evidence that you brought forth in that last segment -- by the way, i get a real kick out of the defense that the fire extinguisher was empty, as if it's a nerf football. come on. >> that's what i say in my house when my kids hit each other, my hand was open. go ahead. >> right. it's more about the polls.

i'm paying more attention to the polling data because i think really what's going on between republican members of the senate is they want to know, can i get away with voting for conviction? on the merits you can make the causation argument and he deserves it. they're only going to do it if they feel they can step out with the base. and so, yes, that evidence is important, but only if it moves the needle, only if it's widely seen. and that's the value of a trial. the trial is an opportunity, and i know it's not a legal trial per se, but it's an opportunity to showcase all that information. >> and it takes weeks. van, just think about it in terms of the irony. now, look, people are saying, don't have these people on, they're giving terrible excuses. i don't care about the excuses for their legal issues, it's not going to work in a court of law. but in terms of what it means for trump to hear his own say, i will remove all doubt. i love this guy trump, and i'm telling you, it was his lead that i followed.

is that what the democrats are looking for? >> i think so, and also, you know, when you talk about incitement to riot, a big part of proving that up is not just your intention, obviously criminal intention matters, but the impact, the effect of your words, the overall context, everything that was going on in its entirety with those words have created the kind of reaction that you saw. i think it's inarguable that had they had a normal rally where normal politicians said normal things, those people would have been much less likely to go and tear up the capitol building and kill a police officer. there is a direct connection between how abnormal it is for the president of the united states to call together thousands of people and send them up to the capitol enraged. so i do think -- yeah. >> as a democrat, what is your concern about what biden is

stepping into here? you got members of congress on the left thinking that members of congress on the right may try to kill him, not figuratively, literally. and he has to get all these big things done. he's got the pandemic looming over everything. the vaccine thing is a nightmare. he can't just magically make vaccine. what is the calculus for them in terms of just how much burden they can put on his plate? >> well, we have four political parties, not two. you have the mainstream democrats led by biden, but you also have the left of our party. aoc, bernie, black lives matter and others. they want a lot, they want it right now, and they see biden as a target more than a partner. then you have the republican party but you also have maga, sometimes qanon and sometimes white nationalists. so you've got at least four political parties in a food fight every day, and biden is going to have a tough time.

i think the great strength of biden, though, is that he's clear about why he's there and what he wants to get done, so he is that steady hand, he's going to be that steady voice in the room, but right now the political system is cracking and, you know, he's going to have a very tough time. >> last word, michael. >> what kind of opportunity does he have to get out of the box if all of the o2 in the room continues to be sucked out by trump because the eyes of the nation are on an impeachment trial? it's really a no-win proposition for the president-elect. i feel sorry for him in that regard. he doesn't get to start with a clean slate. >> gentlemen, the two best-looking heads in the business, thank you very much for helping the audience on this friday night. van jones, michael smerconish, thank you and god bless. one of the last great lies of this white house is already one of its most heartbreaking. the second wave of covid vaccine was supposedly in reserve. it's not even there. governors are furious.

what does that mean for the battle to get our nation healthy? just how big a hole are we in with what was supposed to be the miracle cure? next.

alex azar just handed in his resignation letter as secretary of health and human services. he says he plans to stay until the inauguration.

but on his way out, he still sold you one of the last bogus bill of goods. this was his promise tuesday. >> we can now ship all of the doses that have been held in physical reserve. >> this was him today. >> no, there is not a reserve stockpile. >> we're going to ship all the things in reserve, there is no reserve. so those thousands of lifesaving vaccines that were on their way, mere trumpery. a bookkeeping sleight of hand. while they play games, americans are dying by the thousands. states are now facing another empty promise. >> this is deception on a national scale. i am shocked and appalled. >> this was an abject failure and now they've added a final unimaginable injustice.

we will continue to do what we've had to do, clean up the mess that the federal government leaves us with. >> what's the truth here? look at the numbers. it's clear that states need help. we're still only getting about 40% of all the shots available into people's arms. that bottom number, that's what matters. doses administered, a little over 12 million. we need to be at 528 million doses before we're really out of the woods, life really can go back to normal. to do that by june, that was the goal, that secretary azar promised, that would mean more than tripling the rate of doses. bottom line, fixing this required three things, okay? money, manpower and a new mentality. forget about this, oh, it's just

greedy governors trying to grab cash. look at the numbers. the infectious diseases society of america pointed out states have only seen about half of what congress just passed, saying, quote, the remainder must be expeditiously distributed to states and local health departments in order to address obstacles such as limited staffing, supplies and space that preclude getting the vaccine to the people. for all the success of operation warp speed, okay, and there was, they got the vaccines made and approved fast. there is a key snag in the supply chain that they knew about and did nothing. people. the companies, pfizer, moderna, astrazeneca, they need thousands more workers, reportedly, to make the vaccine, the shots. hospital staffs stretched thin, already being asked to carry too much. they're trying to keep people alive, now they're supposed to do the vaccines, too?

meanwhile, walgreen's, cvs, they say they're ready to help. cvs alone are promising a million doses a day, they're just waiting on the feds. why? why are they waiting? as for the mentality, it's clear the current team isn't going to change. so what about the team that takes over next week? are they more willing to shoot straight? we have to take the president-elect at his word, at least in the beginning. we certainly never heard trump say anything like this. >> the honest truth is this. things will get worse before they get better. i told you i'll always level with you. >> now, that will likely be true about the numbers and the pain and the fear. it cannot be true about the planning. you know what i'm saying? you can't blame biden for what he inherits. but once he gets in there, in a reasonable amount of time, they have to start going in a better direction, otherwise they're just as much to blame. the response can't get worse before it gets better, you understand? they're going to have questions

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from trump pandemonium to the pandemic, that's what matters now. covid deaths rising faster than ever. at any point the dark days that health officials have long warned about are here. but be very clear they're here because you and i have failed to do what we needed to do. now researchers warn it's likely to get worse because there's a new, more contagious variant here. doesn't mean that it makes you more sick, doesn't mean that the vaccine won't work. but it means it spreads more easily and it may be the dominant strain within weeks. let's discuss with dr. sanjay gupta. do i have it right? >> yeah, it's a more transmissible strain. it doesn't appear to be more deadly. but if it's more transmissible, it can more easily get into vulnerable populations, that's a problem. it's not surprising it would become the more dominant strain. it probably doubles its proportion every week. so, if it's 5% this week, it'll be 10% next week, 20% the week after that.

that's when it becomes the more dominant strain. big question, chris, do the antibodies either generated by the vaccine or in people who previously had the infection, will those antibodies work against this strain? don't know for sure, but pfizer thinks they will. that's going to be tested now. these viruses will probably continue to mutate, and it is probably that the vaccine will be something that either needs to be given every year, every couple of years or a booster shot or something because of that, chris. >> what do you make of this not enough vaccine situation? is this just about the reality of distribution, or is this poor planning? and how do we fix it? >> well, it's clearly poor planning, chris, because, you know, we're talking about some of the most precious commodities on earth. and we're not exactly sure how

many doses there are. there may be reserve doses. there may be not. that's silly considering how in demand these are. we should know exactly what's going on. i think part of this is semantics, chris. reserve dose versus second doses. the way this went down is the biden administration basically said we recommend not withholding any reserve doses. at first the current administration said that's a bad idea. they said we're going to do the same thing. we're not going to hold back any reserve doses. then it comes out there's actually no reserve doses to hold. that makes a lot of states angry, as you showed earlier, because they thought we're going to get a surge of vaccine doses. that's the bad news. we also heard tonight that pfizer basically said the second doses, they still have those and they're going to start shipping them. i guess the good news is we're going to get second doses into the state so hopefully it will help alleviate that demand.

>> is the first dose different than the second dose? >> no, it's the same dose. >> it's just more. >> it's just more. they held back the doses. they held back a small amount of reserve to hold back the surge. the reserve is gone. now the second doses are going out. >> how do we get more? we just need more. we're nowhere near the rate for two reasons, right? we don't have enough manpower and infrastructure to put them into people's arms. and we don't have enough doses. so, how do we get more? >> the bigger problem is the first one right now because, you know, even as you showed, even out of the doses that have been distributed, only about close to 40% have actually been used. so, that's the big problem right now. and it is that first problem you said, you know, having enough manpower to actually push the syringes into arms. that's a rate-limiting step. where do you go to get a vaccine? right now people watching, do you know exactly who you would call or where to go to get a vaccine if you qualify? a lot of people don't still.

this idea of going into the communities and making it easy. >> there's nothing easy about it. you have to go online right now where i am -- not just where i am. i've heard this from other people. and you basically have to sit and hope you get lucky and they cancel an appointment and you can get that cancelled appointment and go. and then they tell you whether or not you can come because they may not have enough vaccine to fill the appointments. >> it's -- i mean, again, keep in mind we're talking about the most precious commodities on the planet right now. that's the way they're being treated. my parents waited at 1:30 in the morning in florida to get their vaccine. 300 doses. they were numbers 288 and 289, luck of the draw to some extent. hopefully these community centers that the biden administration is talking about will help. president-elect biden said on day one fema would be in charge of starting to do that. bringing in commission corp. to

help alleviate the manpower issues and maybe even retired health care workers. all these plans will help. manufacturing will ramp up, chris. you mean, think about it, pfizer says they can make two billion doses in a year. a lot of that is earmarked for countries outside the united states, but it gives you some sense of the manufacturing capacity of these large companies. >> yeah, but they've got to get it done. and they need people too. they need people to meet their own capacity. sanjay, thank you very much for setting us straight. i'm sorry about your parents but i'm happy they got the vaccine. be well, brother. >> you got it. thanks. >> we'll be right back. before we talk about tax-smart investing, what's new? -audrey's expecting... -twins! ♪ we'd be closer to the twins. change in plans. at fidelity, a change in plans is always part of the plan. these folks don't have time to go to the post office they use stamps.com all the services of the post office only cheaper get a 4-week trial plus postage and a digital scale

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