hello, everyone, i'm kate bolduan. welcome to a special edition of the show on this holiday marking martin luther king jr.'s, life and legacy. thank you so much for joining me. there are 48 hours left of the trump presidency. 48 hours until joe biden takes over and what he takes over and must take on is a fractioned and divided country. very clearly. and with just two days until the inauguration and the nation bracing for the possibility of more deadly violence, washington, d.c. is essentially a fortress.

look at these pictures. from the air on sunday. you could just see the quiet all across the district. security there incredibly tight with barricades around the capitol. the national mall close to the public. about 25,000 national guard troops will be in place by the inauguration. and we are now learning all of those troops are facing new background vetting before they land in d.c. because of the concerns now of a possible insider threat. and new video out also with a new perspective on this the siege of the u.s. capitol that left five people dead. the video shot by a journalist with the new yorker. [ crowd chanting ] >> this morning there is new details on how president trump plans to spend his final hours in the white house.

just think pardons, pardons and more pardons. we're going to get all of that. we want to start with a security situation in d.c. and arrests of people involved on the attack on the capitol. shimon prokupecz is joining us and also is josh campbell. shimon, if i could start with you, what are you seeing in d.c. right now? >> reporter: well, kate, really unprecedented security for any event in the united states, probably ever. as you said, all of the national guard troops on the ground. but i wanted to take you outside some of the inner perimeter of the capitol to show you what is going on on the outside and trying to get anywhere around d.c. there is fencing like this almost everywhere you go at every intersection in washington, d.c. there is more fencing over here across the road here and what is happening here is that officials are really at this point right now blocking all vehicle traffic

to anywhere inside of washington, d.c. they are letting people walk through these areas, they are questioning people, what they're doing here, if you try to walk through some of these areas. but right now the point of all of this, as security gets tighter and tighter, the ring of steel around the capitol and the white house starts to grow up. the one thing officials are concerned about vehicles and they're trying to keep as many cars out of the area as possible. also concern is over some of the insider threats, perhaps from some of the national guard troops this morning on "good morning america," the head of the national guard here in washington, d.c. addressed that issue. >> they're screened and then repeatedly screened until they are actually put on the street. a regular background check is enhanced, with more screening, more details, and it is layered, so the fbi is part of it, the secret service is part of it and

once they are certain that there is no insider threat, then that soldier or guardsman or airman is given a credential. >> reporter: and one of the things is that there are layers and layers of security. to get through one checkpoint to a second and a third and a fourth, there are secret service agents and law enforcement officials asking questions, checking i.d. also to note, this morning there was a brief scare at the capitol after a fire at a homeless encampment. the capitol was placed on a brief lockdown and the inauguration rehearsal today was briefly evacuated as well. >> just showing how alert they are at many moment. shimon, thank you. josh, to the arrest. some of them have connections to right wing extremist groups.

what are you learning about these arrests. >> we're learning new details about some of those who have been charged. one person, this man named john schaefer, authorities say is a heavy metal guitarist from indiana, he was, according to court documents, wearing an oath keepers hat, those are a right wing militia that sprung up in the wake of the presidency barack obama, claiming that the government is out to get them. this person reportedly a member based on his hat. he faces six charges including violent entry. this man named robert geiswen called the 3 percenters and he runs a private para military group and he has five charges throwing a canister at police officers and the two things we're learning from the court documents is one of the fbi is taking this very seriously trying to find and hold accountable those storming the

building and secondly and troubling for our viewers and those around the world, we're learning more about the dark undercurrent in the united states, the anti-government right wing militia groups according to the court documents we're seeing how potentially violent they could be and we know based on our own reporting that experts and intelligence sources tell us what is motivating so much of the violence is donald trump's ongoing lie about the 2020 election fuelling so much of these grievances and obviously the potential for future violence. >> and there is a tip about a woman possibly stealing a laptop from the speaker's office during the insurrection and trying to sell it to russia. what are you hear being that? >> reporter: this is one of the more bizarre aspects of the ongoing investigation and it is worth pointing out that authorities didn't provide any evidence. this is coming from a charging document that said that this woman reilly williams, arrested for unlaw entry into the capitol, one of her former romantic partners came to

authorities and said that this person believed that she had stolen a laptop from speaker nancy pelosi with the intent to sell it to a friend in russia in order for that to then be transferred to the russia intelligence service. again, there is nothing beyond that that we're hearing. authorities say they continue to investigate that. but that really shows us the broad scope of the investigation, not looking at physical threats but also the potential for digital threats, kate. >> josh and shimon, thank you. so over at the white house, there are new details about what donald trump is doing in the final hours of his presidency. he hasn't been seen in public in six days. cnn's john harwood is live at the white house joining us as always. the focus seems to be all about pardons right now. what are you hearing? >> reporter: well what we're hearing is that between now and noon wednesday, when the president is an ex president, we expect about a hundred pardons to come. don't know who is going to be on that list. there will be in

non-controversial ones, president trump is doing a favor as a result of lobbying and more controversial ones perhaps steve bannon, his former campaign strategist facing fraud charges and rudy giuliani. we don't know because the president has been so out of sight. we are advised by aides that we do not expect him to pardon his children or himself. pardoning on himself would be legally dubious and never been tested before. but this president unlike previous presidents has not followed the pardon process that is established at the department of justice and we also know that he's completely transactional. he will do what he thinks benefits him and how he makes the calculations is something that we'll find out when he issues the pardons within the next 48 hours. >> and the president seems to have some big wishes or demands for what his sendoff will look like. what are you hearing about his departure? >> just like he has tried to

present a fantasy that he won the election, both to himself and to others, he is also nurturing the fantasy that he's going to be leaving the presidency with honor and he's trying to stage a pomp and circumstance sendoff at andrew's air force base perhaps with a military honor guard or a 21-gun salute. co get some supporters there, invitations have gone out. we don't know how grand that is going to end up being. it could end up being more talk than actually a huge pomp and circumstance ceremony. but certainly that is what he wants. he wants to leave before he is the ex president. so his last flight is on air force one. not a plane that is like air force one but of course air force one is only air force one when the president is on it and under customary circumstances you go as an ex president. he would go as president. >> shows you where the priorities lie in this moment.

thank you. so as donald trump is leaving the office with disgrace, the focus turns to the monumental task ahead for joe biden as he takes over. that includes a flurry of executive actions he has planned in the first days. jessica dean is covering this. what are you hear being this huge burden about to land on biden's shoulders and what he plans in the first days. >> the president-elect and his team know exactly what they're staring down, kate. there is a crisis almost everywhere they turn. and to that end, we're learning more about the executive orders he plans to sign on day one of his presidency. these are a lot of campaign promises. these are things that he promised to do out on the campaign trail that will sound familiar. one of them is to rejoin the paris climate accords, another is to roll back president trump's ban on travel from predominantly muslim countries and signing different executive orders to get their arms around the covid crisis so a federal mask mandate to where they have

jurisdiction on federal property. also extending that pause on student loan payments and extending the moratorium on evictions for so many people and americans who are suffering from financial problems right now because of this crisis. so that is the executive order. they want to telegraph that biden is getting in office and taking action that he promises to take. they also are hoping for what they call robust congressional action. biden has time and time again said that he hopes that they could find bipartisan agreement on all of the things he's sending to congress. chiefly among them and first is the covid relief bill that he laid out last week, some $1.9 trillion bill that he laid out that he's hoping they could get through in congress. but kate, it is going to be very interesting over there. they have the 50/50 split in the senate and the democrats have a slim majority in the house so there is a lot of negotiating and back and forth over what they could get passed and you have to remember biden also

wants to get as many of his cabinet nominees passed as quickly as possible. that hasn't happened yet. and then the impeachment trial. so there is just a lot of moving parts. biden team trying to focus on what they could control and what they could do to take action as soon as they get into office. kate. >> jessica, thank you so much. coming up for us, new video weep take you deeper into this new video inside of the capitol as rioters take over the senate chamber. now lawmakers are launching investigations, demanding answers on what went wrong. one of the lawmakers joins me next. and the united states is close toing a horrible marker in this pandemic. 400,000 coronavirus deaths and incoming biden officials say that we should brace for more dark days ahead. ervice i could . right, girl? >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪

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it is a new perspective and a new look inside of the insurrection on the capitol, capturing the moment that riots broke into the senate chamber. the violence that they brought on police defending the capitol and the hate and threats that they spewed as they romed and ransacked the capitol. before we play, this as reminder that it is disturbing and we're not editing out the language because it is important that you hear the full context of what they're doing. >> there is a tucking million of us out there. [ inaudible ]. >> where the -- are they? where are they?

[ crowd chanting ] >> let's take a seat, people. >> where is nancy pelosi? >> where the -- is nancy? this is our house. >> no, this is our chair. >> agree with you brother, but not ours. it belongs to the vice president of the united states. when he's in here, it is not our chair. look, i love you guys, your brothers but we can't be disrespectful. they could steal an election and we can't sit in their chairs? >> no. >> there has to be something we could use against these skcum bags. >> yeah! >> four house committees are launching investigation news the attack. how did it happen and what went

so wrong. democratic congresswoman carolyn maloney is chair of one of the committees investigating and she joins me now. thank you for being here. that is just a minute plus of 12 minutes of video from this one reporter's perspective. terrifying seeing it all. when do you think -- what do you think this video shows? >> well i think it is shocking beyond belief. it is an attack on our democracy, our institutions, it is an attack on all of us. it is never happened in history before. this will go down as one of the darkest days if the history of our great country. and we have to get an understanding of what happened and make sure that this doesn't happen again. >> and part of that is that your committee has opened an investigation into what happened on january 6th. other committees are doing the same thing as well. what specifically do you want to find out? >> well we're looking at the intelligence part of it. we're looking at the fbi and the

homeland security and the intelligence office on when were they notified, there is reports in the press that there were warnings that were coming in of violence on the capitol of riots on the capitol, did they get that information? when did they get it? who did they talk to about it? what do they do about it? how did they plan to protect people and to protect our capitol and our institutions? they literally disrupting the constitutionally required work of the congress. it is unheard of and shocking and terrible. >> this weekend you and congressman jamie raskin wrote to the chiefs and sheriffs of the largest kind of law enforcement agencies in the country asking them to look into their own ranks as part of investigation into the riots. what do you want them to do? >> well, there were several police officers that were involved, we know. 12 have been identified, maybe more will be identified.

we're asking them to look into their ranks and see if they know of anyone that is the head of the organization, the head of a large police department in houston has been speaking out because some of his members were part of this violent mob. we need to understand systemic white supremacist that may be in these police departments. we'd like them to speak out with a unified voice. for example, the day after january 6th, the joint chiefs of staff came together, they sent out a memo to every person in the armed forces talking about how we are united in protecting our constitution and our institutions and our form of government. we are on one page. we would like the police to have the same. but we have to remember, kate, the heroic acts that cnn has played also during this time of

officers like eugene goodman who risked his life leading the rioters away from the senate chambers that was not protected, away from vice president pence and other legislators that could have been harmed. we wanted to give him the congressional gold medal, the highest award to be given to anyone. but it is very disturbing that police were part of this effort. >> and those two things could be and it seems very clearly are true at the same time. that you're thankful for the courageous acts of the police officers, no question about that. but it is very disturbing where we have seen since the attack, two rocky mount virginia police officers arrested and charged for breaching the capitol. there are images inside of the capitol. an army reservist with security level clearance charged this weekend and now we're learning the fbi is vetting all 25,000 national guard troops coming to d.c. amid concerns of an insider threat. this is clearly a deeper problem

than law enforcement would like to admit or have come to acknowledge in recent years. what could you do about this? >> well, we have held hearings on it. we will be holding more hearings on it. and investigating the depth of systemic actions by police officers, supporting this type of activity. it is outrageous. you take the oath of office to preserve the law and then on your time off, off time duty, you come and be part of a riot, it is -- it has to stop those that participated, you have to be held accountable. that is part of our investigation with the intelligence communities, what are they doing to arrest and hold these people accountable, the fbi has arrested well over 100 people and they're investigating another 230 is under investigation, and they have literally hundreds of

thousands of tips that looking into. so we need to find where this came from, identify it and make sure it never happens again. so that is part of what this investigation is about. >> really quickly -- >> and the intelligence department. >> sorry, chairwoman. on impeachment, when do you think the speaker will send the article of impeachment over to the senate. >> i haven't talked to her today so i don't know her timing. i did know that my colleague jamie raskin who is a member of the committee that i chair is going to be leading the whole trial team on that. and we have had a series of hearings on all kinds of items that are related to what they're talking about in the impeachment. we did our job, we impeached him. it is not in the senate. mcconnell has said he will not move forward until after president biden is sworn in and will follow it today.

and i wan to mention that today is martin luther king day. we have to applaud the fact that we elected the very first woman vice president in history and she is a woman of color. we could all applaud this advancement in our country. she'll lift up the aspirations of women in america, probably around the world. but also we're confronting what i never believed i would ever see a domestic terrorism led by the president of the united states in an attack against our nation. and i think that the impeachment, he deserves it. he led it. he planned it. he instigated it for months. he spoke about organizing around the country and in state capitols and coming to our capitol. he spoke on the capitol grounds that day. and you could hear the people say, and many of your clips that you're showing, that they're there for donald trump. so this trial will go forward

and i believe he will be convicted. >> congresswoman, thank you for coming in. coming up for us. the incoming head of the cdc with a tragic forecast. 500,000 americans could be dead from covid by the end of next month. is there any way to divert this disaster. a member of joe biden advisory board joins me next. nkles? it's neutrogena®. rapid wrinkle repair® visibly smooths fine lines in 1 week. deep wrinkles in 4. so you can kiss wrinkles goodbye! neutrogena®. when they told me my work wasn't essential walls enclosed around me with the words “you can't do this” tattooed to its surface. an unshakable feeling. pressure that swelled beyond my capable strength. how do i break through...alone? i don't... the strength to break through has always been built together. crafted with the people who stand beside us. introducing career services for life. learn more at phoenix.edu

a new sign just this morning of the speed and scale of the pandemic in the united states right now. 60% of all infections here have been reported since election day. that reality as the u.s. is about to hit something that had been unthinkable. 400,000 reported deaths from coronavirus in america. we could hit that marker today. with the expectation that the u.s. will hit half a million deaths in the next month. president-elect joe biden's incoming chief of staff and the incoming cdc director put it this way this weekend. >> the virus is going to get worse before it gets better. i certainly expect we'll hit 500,000 deaths sometime in the month of february. >> we still yet haven't seen the ramifications of what happened from the holiday travel, from holiday gathering in terms of high rates of hospitalizations and the deaths there after. so i think we still have some dark weeks ahead. >> and joining me now is dr.

celine gounder and a member of joe biden's covid advisory board. it is good to see you again, doctor. thank you for being here. we just heard from the incoming chief of staff and the cdc director saying it will get worse before it gets better but how much worse and for how long, do you think? >> kate, so much of this is in our control. so we're now in wave number five. wave number one was the spring. then you had the southern states in the summer, then as temperatures got cooler in the fall, that was after number three, and then thanksgiving number four and christmas and the new year's holiday number five. so much of this is in our control. many of us decided to travel and visit family and friends over the holiday. many of us did so indoors without masks and unfortunately what we're seeing right now is the result of the christmas and new year's holiday. but we could still change our behavior and choose to follow the public health recommendations to wear a mask, to social distance, to try as

much as possible to stay to our household bubbles to spend more times outdoors than indoors and if you're indoors in a well ventilated space it is going to take time to get everybody vaccinated but these are the best tools to control the spread in the meantime. >> i want to ask you about the vaccine, there is a ton of confusion over how many doses are available and how many have been administers and that is not just me confused but that is dr. lena wynn. i'm play how she put it this morning. >> i just don't understand how no one is able to give a straight answer to the question of how many doses are out there that are ready to be distributed and at what point. there needs to be a straightforward public accounting of this. someone needs to know the answer of how many doses are ready to be distributed so states. >> doctor, do you have the answer to that? >> i'm not sure that any of us has the full answer to that yet.

in part because we don't have all of the information until after inauguration. we have a preview but not everything. i do hope that this new administration is a lot more transparent with that kind of information. just like we have a cdc dashboard that shows us cases and deaths and testing and testing results, i would hope that we also have added to that a dashboard that shows the supply, what is coming down the pipeline in terms of manufacturing, where the doses have been administered and to whom, including a breakdown by age and gender and race. so hopefully we do get a lot more transparency into this before too long. >> do you think it is a transparency issue here. i'm confused why someone does not know this information. if not, that is a horrifying sign. >> i do think there are those that have the access to that information. there are a few different systems, for examples, the

tiberius to track the distribution. the biden team only just got access to that and we won't have access until after biden takes office. >> ron klain said that the vaccine rollout is a mess. are you concerned and knowing that and what we just discussed, are you concerned that the 100 million shots in the first 100 days may not be possible? >> the president-elect is very committed to making sure that we get 100 million shots into americans in his first 100 days in office. right now we're losing about 4,000 americans to coronavirus every day. and if we allow things to go at this pace, we're looking at doubling the death toll between now and his first 100 days in office. so he does have a very robust, well-funded plan on the table to get this done. we just need congress to work with us on getting that bill passed. >> that is a big ask considering where we are right now. thank you so much, doctor, for coming in. coming up for us, the qanon

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we are in the final 48 hours of the donald trump presidency and though trump is on his way out, the dangerous conspiracy

theories he's fueled before and during his time in office will not be departing with him. look no further than january 6th for evidence. where symbols of the qanon conspiracy movement and digital cult were everywhere. leading republican senator ben sasse to write a piece about this for the atlantic titled qanon is destroying the gop from within. ben sasse said his party faces a critical choice, until last week many party leads and consultants thouts they would preach the constitution while winking at qanon. they can't. the gop must reject conspiracy theories or be consumed by them. joining me now is mike rothchild writing a book about qanon. thank you for being here. folks have been leaning on you because you have been following qanon for a very long time. what do you think of the choice that ben sasse warns of and lays out here? >> i think it is about two and a

half years too late. if the q shaman is busting into the u.s. capitol and defacing the senator's desk, qanon is already part of the fabric of the gop. it is way too late. >> that is a great point. and look, we saw signs and t-shirts for qanon all over the place, including that guy, the shaman, as the mob descended on the capitol on january 6th. have you figured out in your research what the draw is, what type of people fall prey to this, these lies, these conspiracy theories and why this? >> sure. the people who fall prey to qanon are everyone. it could be anybody. anybody looking for an easy answer to a complex problem, anybody looking for a villain to pin their own personal problems on. anybody looking for secret knowledge who wants to feel special and important and like

they know something that other people don't. that is who believes in q., it is everybody, it is anybody. nobody is above believing in things like this. >> qanon predictions have proven obviously wrong all over the place. and it is all lies. i can't overstate that. i want to read how kevin russ of the "new york times" described what q. has fed people about the election. this was right after the election. for years they had been assured that mr. trump would win re-election in a landslide and spend his second term vanquishing the state and q. told them to trust the plan. and so now when we're here today, mike, the reaction from q followers is what? just continued blind faith? >> continue believing that everything is going to be just fine. because what else could you do? you've already spent years believing in this mythology, you've push add way all of the people in rur real life who love

you. you're burned your boats. you can't go back. so you continue to believe. you continue to push more emotional investment into this movement because you've gotten nothing else left. it has to come true. it has to be real. other wise you will wrong and nobody wants to admit that they were wrong. >> but a lot of us admit we're wrong all of the time, mike. this is what -- i'm baffled by, is this a failure of people's ability to thick critically. "the new york times," you recited in the piece, did a long profile on just one woman in new york city who is a big qanon follower and posts all of the time and talks about how she's been shunned by neighbors and friends and family and but still is it just a failure of people's ability to use the critical thinking part of their brain? >> think it is part of that. but it is also you have talked yourself into believing this thing that other people don't only believe but mock you for

believing. and if you admit to yourself that you were wrong, you are opening yourself up to the mockery and the derision and that you did all of these things and you sacrificed so much in your life and it was all for nothing. that is a very sobering moment in people's lives and most of us just aren't prepared to do that, to throw away months or years of our lives and our relationships and career over this hunch because we just don't want to waste all of this time. >> there is so much bigger questions then of what people need to do about it and what joe biden or any leader could do to undo this at the point as you said, when the qanon shaman is standing and taking over the senate chamber, it is years too late for a party to start shunning it now. mike, thank you very much. i sincerely look forward to your book. >> i'm happy to be here. >> thank you. coming up for us, some senator republicans are floating a new

argument against it.

one of the many big questions this week is when house speaker nancy pelosi will deliver the articles of impeachment to the senate which would then trigger the trial to begin in the senate. we don't know when that will happen, but we are seeing one possible republican argument emerging against a senate

conviction now. we don't have the power. we can't. look no further than donald trump's chief ally remaining in the senate, lindsey graham. senator graham telling the "wall street journal" this. impeaching a president after he's left office is unconstitutional. it's never been done before for a reason: it sets up a never-ending retribution. joining me now is ambassador who was involved in the first trump impeachment. you see a move to the strategy of imposing impeachments, saying they don't have the power to impeach president trump once he's a private citizen. you don't agree with it, but why? >> kate, thanks for having me back on the program. like so much else that trump and his allies have argued, this is legal nonsense. the precedents are well

established that an official can be impeached after they leave office. there is the 18th century, the blunt case, the 19th century example, the belnap case. the reason for that, kate, is with the impeachment conviction comes the power of disqual disqualification. of course, if you have a president that does a terrible thing at the end of his term, congress needs to address whether he should be disqualified from running again. while those earlier cases did not address a presidential impeachment trial, the principle is the same, and, of course, this is the united states where the same rules apply to presidents and to all. so it's completely false. >> it's a technical argument, right? it would, i guess, allow

republicans to try to thread some sort of needle, right, outvoting trump's conviction without having to defend his actions in all of this? >> kate, it's going to fail because ultimately these questions are decided by a majority vote of the senate. i saw that when i was sitting on senate floor as counsel in the previous impeachment, and the group of those who were concerned by trump have the majority. that's probably not just democrats, although there will be 51 democratic votes including the vice president sitting in the chair as the president of the senate. there is also republicans who are concerned by this conduct and who want to be able to consider whether donald trump should be disqualified from running again. he should be. >> i want to ask you about presidential pardons as well, ambassador. they are saying to expect something like 100 pardons expected tomorrow. the "new york times" is

reporting that some of trump's allies are cashing in on this, charging the people to lobby to the president on their behalf. one man said rudy giuliani told him he would help him get a pardon for $2 million. how is this legal? >> kate, i don't think it is legal to have quid pro quo pardons, to have pardons in exchange for bribes. look, the pardon power is one of the broadest powers under the constitution. it's rooted in the old english monarchical power. the president couldn't say, i'm going to pardon everyone involved in the riot, a racial pardon. that's why a constitutional power has to be exercised

constitutionally. there must be some outer limits. it looks like donald trump is preparing to test what those might be. if he goes too far, you can expect that to be litigated in the courts as so many other things have been. we don't know the answer, but there must be some limits. >> good question. he's pushed the limit in every aspect, might as well push it one more time as he's on his way out the door. ambassador, thank you very much, i appreciate it. coming up for us, new details about the president's final hours in office as i was just discussing with the ambassador. a flurry, a flood, a deluge of pardons expected, and also how he wants to leave the white house. more simplicity with what's in your fridge? which suggests meals based on what you have. more motivation with on-demand workout classes. more freedom with over 300 zero point foods. and new tools to boost your mood and help keep you hydrated! get more of what you need to help you lose weight.

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hello to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm john king in washington. this is a special martin luther king jr. day edition in the newsroom. it's a monumental week. in 48 hours the trump presidency ends and the biden administration ends. there is a quiet chill in washington right now. security hovers over our inauguration preparations. the nation's capitol is a view of checkpoints and bomb-sniffing dogs. a guard contingent deployed across the city under complete scrutiny at this hour. people worry about