the helm in some of the worst seas we've ever seen. if we are on a very, very uncertain course. it is no small irony that america crossed the 400,000 coronavirus death mark on the final full day in office for a president whose legacy will be a litany of pain and loss and hatred. and while that disgraced man is no one to follow, he did start his term with a pledge that he has now made a priority for joe biden. >> this american carnage stops right here and stops right now. >> trump meant the opposite. and look at the tally. 400,000. more than that dead. a pandemic he told you was going to disappear like a miracle. that is american carnage. a vaccine that no one really

planned to distribute well. that could create carnage. a deadly insurrection he inspired to attack congress, terrorists, that he told he loved. that is american carnage. and, yes, racist, hateful hoards all over this country -- hordes all over this country feeling entitled like they haven't in a generation. that is carnage. trump and the enablers who remain, all of you own it. you, who ignored, echoed, and empowered this menace, you should see the fruits of your faithless oath to this country. look at what you've done. military needed to secure the democracy from other americans enraged by you. no longer can america boast a peaceful trans per of power.

hawley, cruz, mcconnell, mccarthy, let these names ring in infamy just like the day they brought to rest on january 6th. the day they stood up, other than mcconnell, but he has done plenty to make things worse. the rest of you stood up to lie about an election in congress even after an insurrection. trump did not act alone. you took us here and we will never forget. but now it is on biden and harris to stop the carnage. they already, before they're inaugurated, made a moment we sorely needed. the first time this country stopped to mourn the dead from covid at the reflecting pool in washington, d.c. look. >> to heal, we must remember. it's hard sometimes to remember.

between sun down and dusk, let us shine the lights in the darkness along the sacred pool of reflection and remember all whom we lost. >> what joins us all right now is what biden just gave voice to. hurt. pain. we all feel under siege. certainly from a virus. and, yes, from a disease of our own making, this division is toxic, too. you should reflect now on why trump and his enablers never called for a moment like that. they certainly had no problem bringing people together, right? they had their rallies. but they had no respect for the dead. the answer is found in this president's farewell. he is the enemy of empathy, of truth, and of trust. >> we did what we came here to

do. and so much more. i am especially proud to be the first president in decades who has started no new wars. now as i prepare to hand power over to a new administration, at noon on wednesday, i want you to know that the movement we started is only just beginning. >> every part of that is offensive. i don't know who wrote it but i hope we find out and they should be held to account, also. no new wars? our democracy is not under attack by domestic terrorists that that man incited to help him cling to power? what movement? there's no -- it's all about him. please know this. if you voted for trump, out of disgust with the system, unhappy with your lot in life, you are not wrong to feel that way. you were right then and now to demand better from government. too many are being left behind in the interests of too few.

and the men and women who often squander their chance to serve us deserve that enmity. you just happened to pick someone who conned you, who never really gave a damn about you. hugging the flag. was he? was he trying to choke out the country? his insurrection mob beat a police officer with a flag, waved it around, and he said, i love you. he knew what they did. what president does that? what decent person does that? these people are not patriots. they are perverting old glory and we all know it. the red, white, those stripes, those 13, the colonies that came together, a field of blue like the sky of our destiny filled with the stars that are the constellation of our state. every representation makes the same point in the flag.

epluribus unum. remember what we are about and please remember what we can never be about again. this is not about right or left. i know many of you are happy about biden. i know everybody wants better. in this moment i'm not there. i am consumed with our uncertain future imperiled by our lack of collective concern. i have never seen us like this in my lifetime. this beautiful scene of the flags and the national mall represents the americans who won't be able to attend inauguration tomorrow but not to me. to me it is a representation of how we should all see ourselves at our core. we are aware of our interconnection and our need for one another, or we are about nothing. we cannot continue the way we are right now. left and right, it is time to be reasonable. if you want to get out of this pain. so what happens? where do we go from here?

david gregory and michael smerconish join us right now. how do you look at the moment, david? >> well, i think it's a hopeful moment. you know? i think the country is starved for leadership, for compassion from our president, for a respect for the presidency. and there is an urgent need for action. on this pandemic, in the economy, the country is hurting and the country feels isolated. that's why i really liked the notes that president-elect biden sounded today and tonight and what he'll do tomorrow. to remind each other that we are connected to each other. i think about martin buober who wrote "i and thou" the idea is to be in an i and thou relationship is what happens to you matters to me and vice versa and a sense of community that we need in the country if we're

going through something really hard. we're going through lots of things that are really hard including overcoming these trump years. so i think the moment is defined by the man. this incoming president. and kamala harris, the woman who will offer some hope and some direction because we need government and we need a presidency to function well at the moment. >> michael, what did our movement is just beginning mean to you at the end of the trump address? >> i hope you don't mind if i critique the opening commentary, because you speak for me in most respects, but to the extent you're presenting those facts and i think they are facts as consensus, i don't think we're there, chris. >> which? >> i've looked at too much recent polling. >> be specific when you attack me, smerconish. what facts? >> no, no. what i'm saying is everything that you've just said makes sense to me, personally. but i don't think there is a consensus in the country that that's where we are because the

early polling data post january 6th, that day of infamy, suggests that at least 50% of republicans remain hardened in their support of donald trump. they continue to believe the election was stolen. they think the impeachment process was a fraud. and although i'd love to see a kumbaya moment for the country i don't think we're there >> i don't see it as kumbaya. i'm not asking for kumbaya. i don't even like kumbaya. i am asking for a sense of the existential. this country does not work as separate parts. we tried that once. doesn't work. i'm not asking people to like one another. i'm asking them to understand the priorities of our collective existence. that's what i believe is in jeopardy right now. i don't disagree with you about the numbers. i'm going to leave you right now because you're being too cogent and go to david and say i do believe there has to be a reach where there is a reason to

believe that catches people in a way that's not happening right now. >> but this is the work of communities. this is the work of citizens. it's the work of media. but the immediate focus is does the government work right? does the federal government work well? and does the federal government work well with state governments? this is most relevant in dealing with a health crisis that is gripping the world. and so the work that you're talking about, chris, is big. it's important. it may take a long time. but we know that government, politics, and media play a big role in that. and with a new president, this kind of reset, it gives the country an opportunity to look to the presidency, a figure who has great sway over the public, and see some difference. see a new beginning. that matters. we need that. we're in a new year. people would like to turn a page in 2021 and leave 2020 behind.

you know, what happens from the government, because the presidency gets so much attention, it can feel destabilizing. i think people have felt that their world is turned upside down and it is very uncomfortable. and i think president biden will bring some comfort and stability. it doesn't mean he'll get all his legislation passed but i think he will represent that in the presidency. i think that matters. whether for or against him common decency and stability matters. >> last word to you, michael >> i think the incoming president has enormous burdens because of the divide we've been discussing. but also a tremendous opportunity. it's vaccine distribution. if he can meet the 100 million in a hundred days, all good things will flow from that. i think americans will respond to competence. so there is the opportunity for him. if he can deliver on that it'll be a great start >> i know a hundred million a

hundred days, you know, obviously a companion concept there. i don't know. they better be careful about the bar. i understand a little bit about what's going on in states and distribution. they have a problem. we have a supply problem. and we have a logistics problem. and there is not just the money for it they don't even know what the fix is. you're right, michael. that's why i'm so afraid and so concerned for us. i know we have to get to a better place. this is unsustainable for us. we're not set up to survive this way. it won't last. we have to just keep reminding people about a reason to believe in something bigger and better than has gotten us to this point so far. you're right brother. i appreciate you checking me. thank you for making the conversation worth while. the force of 25,000 national guard troops securing this inauguration just got smaller by a dozen. this is what i'm talking about. about this existential concern. this is an example of trying to stop the slightest risk of an insider attack. what happens when you don't know

who the enemy is anymore? it's not someone on the outside. it's us. who is us? who is them? is it safe to have the ceremony on the capitol steps tomorrow? is it right to do it even if something may go wrong? a congressman who has not been satisfied with the level of intel he's gotten on the riot who has a responsibility to find out and tell the rest of us, next.

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when you look at d.c. now you hope it's safe but it is certainly sad to see all that security necessary to keep us from ourselves. there are new concerns that make this necessary. connections between those supposedly protecting democracy and those who want to attack it. the first significant conspiracy charges were filed today in capitol riot. federal prosecutors going after three leaders of the extremist group the oath keepers. this bunch of people that specifically targets members of the military and law enforcement. 12 members of the army national guard are now removed from protecting the inauguration. part of the fbi vetting looking into possible ties with extremist groups. we know two guard members from ohio were removed. let's discuss the state of the inaugural security with ohio representative tim ryan. congressman, welcome back to "primetime." >> thanks, chris.

>> let's go macro/micro. on the macro where is your haed in terms of the level of compliance with your questions and level of openness? are you getting confidence or confidence that people want to answer your request es? >> i tell you i've been having the number of very good open transparent conversations with the sergeant at arms, the national guard, the head of the national guard, nationally. they've been very transparent. i've been focused with them and not necessarily the capitol police because they're having more of a leadership role here. i know the rank and file in the capitol police are doing well and ready to do the job so we're feeling good going into tomorrow. secret service is running the show as we talked about. you know, tomorrow is the big day. we had the focus on tomorrow and starting right after the inauguration we'll get down to the business of figuring out what the hell happened two weeks ago. >> one of the many toxic i told

you sos with this outgoing president is going to be what he awakened. groups like the oath keepers. they never had a place in our political culture or main stream dialogue. now they do. now you hear about these national guardsmen being pulled. a couple from ohio. what is that about? their connection to extremist groups we know about? what have you been told? >> there is no connection at this point to any extremist groups. you could imagine the abundance of caution na the leadership in the national guard are implementing right now all the way down, chris, to people who may be saying things they shouldn't be saying are being removed. because no one is taking any chance at all. i know for a couple that was the case. the other ten were the fbi or basically running background checks on everybody here. there may have been something

there. not necessarily connected to anything last week or neces necessarily connected to anything they've done wrong. this won't necessarily be held against them in their personnel file but just with an over abundance of caution making sure tomorrow goes off without a hitch and there's none of those regrets of why did we keep that person on if you are even, you know sniffing any kind of even saying something wrong, you're going to be removed. that is what the national guard is doing and should be commended because the vast majority are very patriotic and here to do their job and they are taking this activation very, very seriously. >> i want to ask you something i have never asked a member of congress before. because i've never had a basis. i keep hearing that there are people on the democratic side who aren't going to show up. they're afraid. has nothing to do with biden. they are afraid of their own safety. and that you've been dealing with heat from your own family. how real are the fears among

your colleagues and what did you tell your family about why you think you need to go? >> well, you are absolutely right. many people are feeling it and they're worried and not here because the trust level was so breached a couple weeks ago and that trust takes a long time to get rebuilt. if you were a member of congress already getting death threats, being attacked, put up on tv stations across the country to be targeted, i'd stay home, too. i basically told my wife and family this is going to be safe and we need to be there. i'm asking all these national guardsmen to stand up. i'm asking the capitol police to stand up. their life has been a lot more miserable than mine in the last few weeks. they're working 12-hour shifts on the heels of that insurrection. the least i can do as chair of the committee that funds them is to be here to support them.

i thought about it a lot because i have a young family too but i think it is appropriate that i'm here to support the men and women who are helping make this happen. >> i appreciate where those words come from. can you think of any other time where you have been less certain of the stability of this society in your lifetime than right now? >> no. 47 1/2 years old and, you know, it's sad. i just think the whole country has moved. i think i've been aligned with that emotional movement from being really, really angry, really pissed off, really frustrated to really a level of sadness now. this is sad, chris. i interned up here as a young person in college. i've been a congressman now going into my 19th year and it was sad to walk around last week

and today and see the national guard everywhere, to see the fencing with the razor wire and the big military vehicles. it is just sad that our country has gotten to this point. i think, fortunately, we have the right person to help us get through this but there's got to be some accountability for the people who did the wrongdoing. the people who incited the wrongdoing. and quite frankly the people who looked the other way who were members of congress or in the senate or governors in the witness protection program for the last four years. you couldn't hear from them when these egregious acts were happening all over the place. they didn't say anything. and then it came to a head two weeks ago. there needs to be some accountability. i'm not saying we need to shame anybody because that doesn't end up getting you anywhere but they

got to take some responsibility so we can move on knowing this is not going to happen again in our country. we have young kids and this is not what we want to leave them. they're going to ask us, you were in congress, dad, for 20 years. you know, what the hell did you do? we have to be sure we hold people's feet to the fire. get the accountability then it will come >> i wouldn't sleep on the shame. i hear you about anger. anger doesn't have to be bad. it can be an emotional passion for positive purpose as well. but what we're dealing with here is hurt. these people, it is going to come down to you guys. you are going to have to call out your own members when they try to be about something they ignored the last four years and try to create a new standard anand ethic about what they are about. that is where the line has to be drawn. as the president-elect was saying to us today, tim, to heal

you got to remember. we can never forget how we got here or it makes us vulnerable to it again. tim ryan, be safe. i'll be looking for you and be looking out for you. be well. >> appreciate it, chris. thank you. >> trump is gone tomorrow. what about all the crap that he has brought to bear in the conspiracy theories, the extremists that he has empowered, all the toxicity, all the rage. that remains. the people who enabled him. the echos, those complicit in his illicit acts. they remain. how do we get to a better place, a much wiser mind to answer a question i can only ask, tom friedman, in ex-. next.

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author of the best seller "thank you for being late." good to see you, brother. how you feeling this eve? >> good to be with you chris. i'm feeling hopeful. i watched president-elect biden and, you know, vice president-elect harris give that address today. in washington. there was something beautiful about it. and it just remind you what happens when you turn the noise machine down. and you get two decent people just trying to figure it out and lead by bringing people together and not by dividing and enraging. i am feeling hopeful. it is going to be a long slog, though, chris. i really draw on the experience now these days of the whole war against muslim extremism after 9/11. i tell you the biggest thing i learned from that. that you need a war of ideas and it's got to come from within. what do i mean?

i was in israel on neefr9/11 an sat down with israeli experts and said what have you learned about suicide bombers? they said what we've really learned is we can catch one, we'll catch another, but the third will get through unless the village says no. if the wider community says no that is not martyrdom that's murder, that is when it starts to change. what we need here -- what donald trump brought us was so unusual about his presidency is that he gave permission for some of the ugliest voices and ugliest trends and ugliest thoughts in our society to come out to feel comfortable. and it all came to a climax in the capitol. we need to take that permission away. just trump leaving will be at the beginning of that. the ecosystem, the fox news permission givers, the whole ecosystem has to say this is off. this is wrong. you are not proud boys. you're dumb boys. it has to come from within the

right and that is what we all have to be calling for as journalists, as politicians, and, chris, as business leaders. the american business community has got to tell every one of these shows if you are promoting a big lie, we are taking the money away. that's what a war of ideas is all about. >> how do you distinguish between the ugly, who we need to ignore and the rest of the 74 million that voted for trump? as you well know over on state news and all the fringe outlets they're playing two songs right now already. one? immigration immigration. biden's letting them all in. here they come. the brown menace. and they hate all of you. they think you're all bigots. one of those we've dealt with before. the other one is very powerful. how do you deal with people feeling they've been made an enemy? >> you know, chris, no question

that if you listen to the voices of some of those people in the capitol on january 6th for them 90% of this is about race and the other 10% is about race. okay. these are people who are simply resistant to the fact we are moving from a white majority christian dominated country to a minority majority country. some of them are not going to be redeemable. they just have to wait for them to be reconciled. there is a whole group of other people there. people who are on the wrong side of the divide. ray dalio has written about this from bridgewater. 40% of america has done pretty well since 1980. # #of -- 60% of america has not had a raise. for those people the country is not working. the other huge factor and you saw it in the electoral map in every one of these states, urban centers blue. the whole rest of the state red. and somehow biden and i think he

is well positioned to do this, he's got to go out there to these rural areas, listen to these people. >> then he gets attacked, tom. he gets attacked by the left who says land doesn't vote and why would you go and cater to the minority who just cottoned to one fb the worst presidents in history if not the worst. worry about us. we put you in office >> i don't think it has to be either/or. when you bring broadband to rural america you also create a enormous opportunities for urban dwellers who want to live in rural, comfortable places and get out of cities. this is a positive sum game. but democrats don't want to go through another election where the entire rural part of america is red. and it's not that they're deliberately ignoring these parts of the country. trump didn't do anything for them the last four years. but this to me is a huge opportunity for biden. >> what is the best thing we have going for us, tom? >> the best thing we have going for us? i'll tell you.

that's georgia. look at what kelly loeffler and perdue ran on. two things. warnock and ossoff are radical marxist socialists. the other is elect us and we'll guarantee gridlock. what happened? a majority of georgians albeit slim basically said, we don't think they're radical socialists. we've been listening to joe biden. you know what? we can't afford any more gridlock. yes there was a lot of african-american votes there no doubt but there were white votes and white republican votes there. people want to get moving again. they do not want four more years of gridlock. they want to know it's going to be fair. they want to know that their voices are going to be heard. joe biden, we are so lucky, chris, at a time when the country is full of hate we have a president who is impossible to hate and we have a man who says i don't have to make myself the center of the story all the

time. i'm ready to step back and let others be big and lead. so i'm not crazy. inthis is going to be hard. this is going to be a hard slog. but i think getting donald trump with his megaphone out of our ear, we don't realize how much he has warped the conversation in this country. i just think biden is half the chance, there are a lot of people who want him to succeed and not just the ones who voted for him. >> you got two generations working on three of fans in my family. my father was a big fan and he would always read what you wrote and see the reasonableness in it and say in situations like this, stay away from whatever is easy. everything that matters in life is hard. everything that matters that you want every virtue is hard to attain and maintain. tom friedman, thank you for helping us understand our virtues and how to get away from the vices. i'll talk to you soon.

brother, thank you and good luck. the trumps and the bidens are sleeping across the street from one another tonight in the white house and blair house but because trump is so small, so insecure, they'll never meet as outgoing and incoming presidents traditionally do. how is that supposed to signal anything but more malice in this country? jim acosta has had a front row seat to the trump phenomena for four years. what a ride. what did he learn? next. man: i have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. now, there's skyrizi. 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months after just 2 doses. skyrizi may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them.

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the vexing question for us what comes next for trump? one idea that the president himself is at least talking about is starting his own political party. let's get the latest with cnn's chief white house correspondent jim acosta. good to see you. great work. what are you hearing about this? >> we confirmed with a senior trump adviser earlier this evening the president has been talking with aides about this but in talking with other advisers this is almost exploding on the launch pad.

there are advisers describing this as a stupid idea, a lame idea. essentially what this is, the president flailing in his last moments, you know, in office. and he's trying to grasp at something on the way out. if he can't cheat himself into a second term he'll console himself with the thought he can start a new political party but the polls including cnn's latest poll shows he is at his lowest approval rating of his entire presidency somewhere in the neighborhood of 34%. you can't use that as a foundation to start a new political party. just not happening. >> what do you think happens next for us not just him? >> this is a crisis for this country. no question about it. trump may leave the scene but tru trumpism is not leaving. what we saw on january 6th is something we're going to be left with for some period of time. i mean, donald trump is going to go down as not a commander-in-chief but a

confederate-in-chief. he divided this country in ways you and i have never seen in our lifetime. he pitted people against one another, called folks like us the enemy of the people. one of the reasons why i was so focused on that slur against members of the news media is because my concern all along throughout this presidency, chris, is that one day we would start treating each other as enemies. first he calls the press the enemy then calls other people the enemy and so on and the hatred people put in their hearts can become cancerous and toxic and i think it is that kind of hostility and hatred that exploded in front of our eyes on january #o6th and we ar now left with it. we have to figure out a way as a country to bind up the nation's wounds, look to our better angels as abraham lincoln and other presidents have called us to do in the past. no question about it this is a president who leaves a chasm,

you know, just a massive canyon of hostility and division and hatred and it is just not something we'll be able to heal right away but we all have to work at it. we have to work together as a team. we aren't going to be able to treat covid as a divided country with trump supporters not wanting to wear masks and so on. that is not going to work. i think tomorrow is the beginning of potentially starting that healing process with all the flags we're seeing across the national mall. perhaps we can all look at those flags and remember, you know, that stands for all of us. >> you know, it's interesting, people will say you know you acosta you paint the president this way. no we don't. he paints himself. let us just remind the audience of the situation at his own inaugural luncheon. who was there and what trump said about it four years ago. watch this, everybody. >> okay. >> i was very honored, very, very honored when i heard that

president bill clinton and secretary hillary clinton was coming today. and i think it's appropriate to say, and i'd like you to stand up. i'd like you to stand up. and honestly, there's nothing more i can say, because i have a lot of respect for those two people. so thank you all for being here. >> and the point is, he knows better. he knows what is worthy of respect and worthy of contempt and he chooses to be worthy of contempt. he will not show up. he knows it is injurious to the nation. he just doesn't care. >> and he has sent the message to millions of supporters across the country that may be shrinking in size that this donald trump, the donald trump on the way out, is the way we should behave as americans. we all know all too well and he knows all too well, maybe the president who is leaving tomorrow doesn't know anymore but certainly the one you showed in that clip a few moments ago that we're all one country.

just very quick, one final thing, we are now at a point where we're seeing a 9/11 size tragedy every day when it comes to deaths from covid-19 and you and i both know, you're a new yorker, the national unity, the sense of national unity we felt in this country after 9/11, we need to harness that and get back to that and think about how we're losing that number of people every day and try to approach every day from here on out until we beat this virus and end this pandemic that we can be that kind of unified country aagain. trump divided us in ways that almost killed us. we can't let it happen. we have to pull together as americans. that is the lesson i've taken from this experience at the white house. we have to stand united. >> jim acosta, a lesson i've taken away, you, my brother, can do the job. >> thank you chris. appreciate that. >> we'll be right back. in a year of changes. don't take chances on your taxes. be 100% certain with jackson hewitt.

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so how is this biden going to do in these challenges? he's been in congress for a long time. he was vice president. but what about his mettle? what about those who know him? let's talk to somebody who can really give us insight. biden biographer, evan osnos.

good to see you, welcome to the team. >> my pleasure, thanks, chris. >> what should americans know about him? >> he comes to this job with a lot of scar tissue on him. that may be the thing that makes him equipped for this moment. we're a country that is contending with not just one crisis. the way he thinks about it, we have four crises. covid, climate change, the economy, and racial equity. as far as biden is concerned, these are all interwoven with one another, and he looks at donald trump and says, he rejects absolutely everything donald trump stood for. he did violence to the office of the presidency as far as joe biden was concerned. but biden was talking to me in 2014 about his concern that there were, as he put it, working class democrats, middle class democrats, who are getting

clobbered. this was before donald trump was on the scene, before bernie sanders rose as a political phenomenon. what we saw under donald trump was that the combination of the underlying problems and the sheer incompetent government that trump presided over resulted in this four-sided catastrophe we're dealing with. and he's coming to this in a posture that reminds us of the moment roosevelt took office in 1933, and he said, we have nothing to fear but fear itself, but he also said the country is asking for action, and it's asking for action now. that's very much i think the pose he brings to this moment. it's time to get moving and deal with these crises. >> how certain do you think he is about what to do initially? you can't attack four fronts at once. it's obvious with the pandemic and the vaccine, but he's going

to have pressure from his own party, i don't know why, people in congress can't seem to get anything done, let alone one thing at a time. >> but it's clear that he can't do anything else before you get covid under control. and covid and the economy are intertwined. his agenda begins with a large package, a $1.9 trillion package. but that has a signaling effect at all of us, saying it's time to aim for something big. this is not the moment for small plans. and he's talking about immigration. he will introduce an immigration bill which i think is as much about the technical details of creating a pathway to citizenship as it is changing the moral temperature of politics. joe biden wants to tell us that

moment is over, it's time to go back to a more welcoming america. >> why the ambition? why go back to one of the touchiest subjects, really, ever. donald trump did not create immigration as a fear instrument. but why go to that early out of the box when you are in a desperate situation of looking for things to make this country come together? >> what he would tell you, i think, and he says this to people all the time, we're the country we are because we're a nation of immigrants. he thinks one of the biggest losses that the trump administration imposed on our country was by degrading that idea. he says this needs to be back at the center of the conversation. in 2013, republicans were considering the possibility of a serious immigration overhaul,

and that got washed away. his bet is, if you can change the parameters, give people an opportunity to do something better, to appeal to their better angels, as jim acosta put it, then you may be able to surprise yourself. aim big, and we may achieve it. >> evan, i appreciate it. your insight will be essential in the coming days. thank you very much, especially on this historic eve. let's take a quick break, and we'll be right back.

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that's it for us tonight. "cnn tonight" with d. lemon starts now. >> we're living in the part of history that people write about, and it's true. >> people are going to remember this. and they'll remember you, d. lemon. >> and you. think about, i'm glad you said that. we -- how are you feeling? it's been -- we've aged ten years. >> yes. not you. >> and the country. >> you do things so you don't look as much as you have aged. >> like hair and makeup, and lighting. and think about it, it's been a tough five years since that escalator ride. it's been a lot tougher on americans during the pandemic, but i'm just putting things into perspective. ever since then, our lives have been turned upside-down. i've never worked so many hours anchoring. i'm supposed to do one hour, then two