this is gps, the global pu public. i'm fareed zakaria coming to you live from new york. today on the show, president biden promises a restoration of democracy and of america's engagement with the rest of the globe. >> we can make america once again a leading force for good.

>> biden is swiftly moving away from the policies of the last four years. what is the reaction from american allies and competitors? we'll hear from the united kingdom, china, germany and mexico. >> we will repair our alliances and engage with the world once again. >> also, one year since covid-19 was first diagnosed in america, there have been 25 million cases here since then and more than 400,000 deaths. sanjay gupta joins me to talk about the vaccines, the new variants and the prospect of herd immunity. but first here's my take. president joe biden has many competing priorities as he begins his first term, dealing with the pandemic, restarting the economy, reestablishing american credibility on the world stage and competing

effectively with china. but it turns out that there is one thing he can do that will address all these problems at once, vaccinate all americans as quickly as possible. biden's current goal of vaccinating a million people a day is far too modest. he should double that doing whatever it takes to achieve herd immunity for the u.s. by late april or early may. this will instantly boost america's standing and give the president leverage with everyone from the republicans, to the europeans to the chinese. right now the roll-out of the vaccine is flailing. donald trump's secretary of health and human services alex azar predicted that 20 million americans will be vaccinated by the end of 2020. in fact, that number barely reached three million. that number has increased since then, but there is confusion. the trump's administration of the handles of the vaccine

roll-out follows a string of other public failures, as well as the supply of medical equipment. while the administration did an admirable job funding vaccine development through operation warp speed, it quickly fell back into its familiar handsoff mode once the private sector pulled off that feat. the state's whose weak infrastructure make them ill equipped to carry out a mass vaccination campaign have been forced to improvise with predictable consequences. that's why the trump administration has plenty of blame on its hands. this is a much larger failure. i write in ten lessons for a post pandemic world. the u.s. government has in recent decades become good at just one thing, writing checks. its major endeavors centered around bail-outs and relief payments. the size of the covid relief

package in 2020, including the money from operation warp speed was impressive. but other than dispensing cash, the federal government seems unable to administer anything. 40 years of reaganism, defunding and demeaning government have taken its toll. it cannot be rebuilt overnight, but some things can be changed right away. the biden team is clearly well-qualified. perhaps as important, they believe in government and understand that getting it to work is a special challenge in the united states. you know, power in america is divided among three branches of government, dozens of federal agencies. coraling all these forces to work together requires persistent efforts every day. if you view government as a reality television show consisting mostly of symbolic gestures and signals to your

base, turns out little gets done. the federal government has already paid for hundreds of millions of doses of vaccine. it has the funds to be able to vaccinate. it should take on the task of ensuring americans are vaccinated and fast. the president should use every tool available from the armed forces to fema as well as starbucks and federal express. drugstore chains, by one account, have the capacity to administer more than three million vaccines a day. this should be the equivalent of a wartime effort. those who have worked on mass vaccination programs on developing countries argue for a truly aggressive approach. we should set up thousands of vaccination sites, many of them running 24/7 and create mobile units to reach people. the government should spare no expense in accelerating the roll-out. the effort will easily pay for

itself by saving lives, driving economic input and of course raising tax revenues along the way. america's handling of the pandemic in general has been a disaster and is widely seen as such. 84% of respondents agree that united states had bungled covid-19. and every country believed they had done far better than the u.s. not admiration or hatred or envy but for the first time pity. in an essay in foreign affairs, the incoming head of u.s. foreign aid programs reminds us the world has admired the u.s. most for its spectacular achievements. the u.s. was the arsenal of democracy in world war ii, put a man on the moon and created the internet. if the biden administration can

succeed spectacularly at the most pressing challenge currently facing the world, that will say loud and clear to everyone america is back. go to cnn.com/fareed for a link to my washington post column this week, and let's get started. joe biden has been president for fewer than 100 hours, but he's signing executive orders to stay in the world health organization, rejoin the paris climate agreement, reverse the so-called muslim ban. we know americans are bit early divided on trump's policies versus biden's, but what are the sentiments in other parts of the world. i have a great panel. president and ceo of the international rescue committee,

germany's ambassador to the u.s. and the u.k. the author of an important new book "world in danger: germany and europe in an uncertain time." the former foreign minister of mexico is the author of "america through foreign eyes." and a professor of economics of the london school of economics. david, let me start with you and ask you. i think the question on everyone's mind is so biden is approaching the world and particularly the old allies with open arms. will they reciprocate? are people ready to welcome america back? or is there wareness and a sense that they don't know what they're getting into? >> i think america remains an agenda setter, not just for allies but for competitors as well. i think america's allies are looking to the united states to

build back different, not just build back better. different means and more nuanced approach to its international relationships, stronger efforts on partnership and a recognition that america's task today must be renew a home to help democracies around the world defend from what i call the age of impunity that has been creeping over the last decade. and also to make sure that through unity, as we all leverage in the engagement with countries like china with whom there needs to be cooperation but also competition. i think the fact that covid and climate have been so highlighted by president biden, two critical areas where there is that room both for the unity and the cooperation as well as steely resolve. >> wolfgang, i saw you had a quote -- i think it was in new york times -- where you said joe

biden knows europe. he knows these alliances. he has a wonderful personality. he will be welcomed warmly in europe, which may be true. but what is striking when you look beyond the rhetoric. in your country, germany has been pushing for europe to have a certain kind of strategic independent from the united states over the last four years. you look at the signs of the deal between the european union and china, which was spearheaded by angela merkel and by germany. you look at the north stream two project, which is an attempt to create an energy dependence on russia. all this suggests that while european actions may welcome biden -- european words may welcome biden, european actions are a whole other thing. >> i would disagree with that, fareed. i think europe is perfectly prepared to embrace joe biden, to work with the new

administration. we have been lacking the three most important elements of effective international cooperation for the last several years. that's truth, trust and transparency. and my impression is, and i'm certainly not the only one here on the european side of the atlantic, that joe biden personally and so many of these senior advisers and future cabinet members that he has nominated are perfectly qualified to rebuild trust, truth and transparency. that is essential. and, you know, as far as europe's capabilities and our discussions about, quote, unquote, autonomy efforts, i think the european political leadership is perfectly aware

that what we lack is our capability to be a more respectable and a more respected partner for the united states in dealing with the kinds of international challenges that we've had for many years and the ones that are now coming up over the horizon, including china. and i want to insist, fareed, that with respect to china, most european leaders are fully aware that if we cannot find a way to agree a transatlantic approach on how best to deal with china, we would be making a huge mistake. >> so let's hear from china. i realize this is a little difficult to ask you to speak for 1.4 billion people, but what i want to ask you is what is the mood in china now? it does seem to me from the reading and what i have been able to sense, there is a sense

of confidence. china has probably handled covid-19 from an economic point of view better than almost anybody else. i mean, the disease is almost gone. the economy is back. it's been the fastest growing large economy in the world. is there a confidence? is there a sense of, you know, the chinese model has worked and the american model has not? >> it's not a time to discuss the superiority or advantages of various systems. the pandemic -- fight against pandemic is not over. there are new cases still in china. china has still, however, have a grip on the economy and is on a solid way to recovery. but the new biden administration presents as a huge opportunity, which china takes seriously, to improve u.s.-china relations, to

reduce the misgivings and to really focus on areas of collaboration more than competition, for instance, on the fight for the pandemic on climate change. and china recognizes that the biden team is technical, professional, rational, can hold an adult's dialogue. there is a lot of room for china through negotiations and dialogue to give a bit more to the u.s. in terms of trade and investment and even structural changes through on the institutional rules. and china will be looking forward to more collaboration and repair the relationship and hope to have a constructive dialogue with -- a constructive relationship with the u.s. >> so from your point of view, the chinese are really welcoming the change in administration. >> china held -- holds no illusion that the pressure on

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and we are back here on gps with david, wolfgang, jorje. explain to us the leader of the mexico and donald trump. trump comes in den grading, demeaning, disparaging mexico in 100 different ways, and this left wing pop you list in mexico ( found he has a good relationship with trump and is worried about the incoming biden administration. why? >> fareed, i think two reasons. first of all, the president really identified with donald

trump. he said so many times or wrote so. both of them outsiders. both of them anti-establishment leaders. both of them rocking the boat trying to change the system, drain the swamp, if you like. i don't know exactly how to translate that into spanish. but in any case, the president had a sense of affinity, identity, identification with donald trump. and secondly, lopez was able to make a pact with donald trump whereby mexico would do the united states dirty work with it, essentially paying for the wall with mexican troops on our southern border and on our northern border in mexico, keeping the central americans out. and in exchange, president trump would basely let lopez do

whatever he wanted on macro economic policy, on handling the pandemic, on the rule of law, on drugs and security, on practically everything, even the usnca or new trade treaty between mexico, united states and canada was not really very important to trump. he never even tried to exist with mexico to comply with its new provisions on labor, on the environment, et cetera. so for these two reasons, they got along. they identified one with the other and basically, lopez got a free pass from the president of the united states. that's no minor event in mexico, especially what you are doing is not necessarily what's best for mexico and what's best for the united states. >> so this is a very important point. the united states has been the key, one key force helping mexico to modernize over the next 25 years, to reform its

economy, to improve its rule of law, to tackle the drug issue. and what you are saying is that donald trump has essentially said, we're no longer pressing on any of those things and lopez has taken advantage of that, right? and in many ways mexico is backsliding. >> well, i think it's backsliding in very many ways as you say, fareed, on the economy contracted 9% last year, more than twice the u.s. percentage, more than twice the brazilian percentage, fricor example. we are up to 1,500 deaths daily and counting. the economy will not grow back more than 3% or 4% this year. but basically lopez is driving the country into the ground. but he doesn't have the united states saying, hey, hold up, wait a second. this is not just your business.

it's yours. but it's also yours. but it is very important to recall that the united states has bailed mexico out many times since the '70s. the famous tequila crisis. this time he didn't seem to care a whole lot. but we'll have to see if biden does engage and really begins to take a different attitude. >> david, let me ask you. when you listen to the story of a populist, when you look at trump, this is something you have had to deal with in europe, is populism waning? is there a watershed moment for the decline of populism? >> president trump was obviously

a symptom of the weakness of western liberal democracy, as well as a cause of further weakening. we have seen this decayed in which there has been democratic recession, in which democratic norms have been undermined. and the theme of the trump presidency was his impunity, refusing to disclose his tax details and ending up on an assault on the democratic system itself. it is clearly far too early to describe trucmpism. the defeat of president trump doesn't mean the end of trumpism. the most important word president biden has used is possibly. there are possiblies now opened up by an administration that is determined to bring service, to bring a commitment to serve the public interest and truth that others have mentioned.

but this fight against populism clearly needs to work on an economic level as well as a political level and those stakes could not be higher, both for the direct economic mitigation measures that are needed but also to the vaccine's approach that you highlighted in your introduction. president biden needs to be able to show he can do work on the domestic front and the foreign policy front at the same time. there is no holiday from history yet. he has to get a move on in both fronts. >> stay with us. when we come back, i will ask about a very interesting prediction about the rise of nationalism in china, t technonationalism, when we come back. only tylenol rapid release gels have laser-drilled holes. they release medicine fast for fast pain relief. tylenol rapid release gels.

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technology, particularly in the 5g space, has produced a kind of almost bottom's up renaissance in china. explain what you see there. >> it is a commitment to reaching technological until when china committed to developing nuclear power. it's that mobilizational of totally national resources from bottom up and top down, not telling the cost until it -- the goals are achieved. and we know that china is supremely efficient as mobilizing resources as we have seen in the pandemic, combined with market economy is going to splash a lot of cash and mobilize a lot of resources to not only achieve tech logical self-independent because trump has pushed china toward that direction, but also to reach

higher goals, which is to set standards and control servers and ips and things like that. china used to have a very cozy relationship and comfortable on globalization. now it has been alerted that it has to do it on its own. >> does that mean you see the decoupling of technology so we will end up living in two worlds, a chinese technology world with chinese companies like huawei and a non-chinese broadly speaking western zone? >> no one is ruling out that possibility, even with a new biden administration. although, china believes that a biden administration will try to take the american side away from creating a new cold war and talks about decoupling. but china and the u.s. is prepared for that decoupling. and it is important for china to

build an independent critical supply chain. china still heavily relies in terms of high-tech components on u.s. and other countries, and it is gearing up as fast as is possible to be completely independent. >> wolfgang, let me ask you to close this discussion by just reflecting on, you know, the central question, which is, it seems to me, can this open international world order that was created by the united states in partnership with its european allies and to a learn extent japan and south korea after the fall of communism in the 1990s, can it survive as you have america not quite as powerful as it was, a rising china and a europe, as you point out, that is not really a purposeful strategic act on the world stage. is this, you know -- are they going to run this experiment?

can this world survive these very different forces that are all tugging at it? >> it can, and quite frankly it must. there are key areas in our international standing where we on the european side need to understand very clearly that if we allow the atlantic to become wider, if we allow nato, for example, to disappear or to question the validity of the nato alliance as happened during the trump administration, we would seriously damage our own security because the fact remains, fareed, europe, mostly small nations with the exception in the eu today of france, 27

nations without nuclear weapons, we need nato. we need the united states. and the second point on, you know, technology, on the issues you were just discussing, china. if we don't get our act together across the atlantic on, you know, on digital trade, on digital issues on cyber security, on artificial intelligence, we could, you know, together we represent 40% or more of the global capabilities. we could actually remain the norm setting entity in the world and not voluntarily give that up to this one, big, emerging new power by the name of china. so i think it is a matter of necessity, of strategic intelligence to make sure the

north atlantic community, not only in the military area, survives and prepares itself for the 21st century, which will be about technology, about artificial intelligence and about data. and we can do it. we must. >> thank you all for an absolutely fascinating conversation. next up, all i have to say is two words: sanjay gupta. t? it's neutrogena®. rapid wrinkle repair® visibly smooths fine lines in 1 week. deep wrinkles in 4. so you can kiss wrinkles goodbye! neutrogena®.

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called "keep sharp: build a better brain at any age." it's always a pleasure and always a way to have proving to the world that we are not, in fact, the same person. >> right, thank you. yes, that's an important point. let me ask you about this vaccination question because i do feel as though people are accusing me of being too tough on biden. but we are already at one million vaccinations a day. and if you do the math, we will get to herd immunity some time in the middle of 2022 if we keep at this pace, and that is biden's goal, one million a day. there has to be a way for us to get to what the drugstores are talking about, which is three million a day or two million a day. what do you see as the most important path forward here? >> yeah. no, fareed. i have heard your comments and i completely agree with them. it is not just the number of

vaccinations that will be important but the speed at which these vaccinations are happening. i have talked to people in the national retail world, looked at these community vaccination centers being proposed be fema. and the pharmacies alone can probably get to this number of 100 million vaccines a month potentially. they're going to need more resources. they will need more people who are actually the vaccinators. there is hurdle that need to be overcome. but you got to get to this hurd immunity which is 75% of people being vaccinated. but the longer you wait, the more the virus spreads, the more mutations accumulate. that's the problem because some of these mutations can lead to these variants which may become increasingly resis tent to the vaccines. so you have a race. you have got to do this quickly. i know they don't like to hear

it but as much as the last administration the ended to overpromise and underdeliver, i do worry we are underpromising with the hope of delivering, but regardless we have to move fast. >> i have to ask you about your book because this really is a terrific book. i am not a person to buy self-help books, but i have read this book cover to cover. so this is basically a book about how to keep your brain healthy and active so that you don't have deterioration when you are growing old. who does not want to accomplish this goal? we have a limited amount of time. so go through quickly through for me. it turns out there are no super foods and i can't take pills to make this happen, correct? >> that's right. to get the good stuff out of food. you have to eat food. it is hard to put it in pill form. >> what kind of foods? >> when we talk about brain food

specifically, i think that, you know, there is a couple of foods that really come to the top of the list. as much as an apple a day keeps a doctor away, berries will be the food for the brain. this is based on scientific evidence, how chemicals can cross the blood-brain barrier and what they do when they get to the brain. what i learned -- and i learned a lot. there is certain things you shouldn't eat. we know sugar, for example, we eat way too much sugar. we used to get sugar just a couple of times a year when fruit fell from the trees. i mean even honey was protected by the bees, but we now eat about 130 pounds a year of sugar. the problem with sugar specifically is that the insulin system, the way that the brain actually absorbs glucose in the blood is very, very sensitive. it can be overwhelmed quickly. if you are eating too much sugar, you could be taking a lot of energy to the body and

starving the brain at the same time. this is a critical point, i think, when we think about long-term brain health. this may have been a particularly toxic substance in terms of causing long-term problems like dementia. >> you say that rather than trying to do a cross word puzzle to improve your brain, talk to a friend. explain what you mean. >> yeah. and this one is -- i've gotten into so much discussion about this particular topic. here is the way to think about it. cross word puzzles are great. there is lots of things we do on a daily basis that are great. that is the practice makes perfect adage that is true when it comes to our brains. but if you think about our brains, our brains are functioning like we're living our ki life, most of our time at home, go to the grocery store, a few places. we know how to do those things really well. cross words will make you be able to get to these places very easily. but if you want to start to

expand the number of roads in your brain, the number of cities, the number of places you visit in your brain, you have to do different things. different something differently or different, period, can make a huge difference in terms of building you have overall reserve in your brain. cross word puzzle is fine, but if you want to do something that could help build reserve, taking a brisk walk with a close friend, talking about your problems, that can make a huge difference. eating with your nondominant hand can actually start to recruit new parts of your brain that you otherwise wouldn't use. you have to think about this conceptually differently. practice makes perfect has been the add damage, but change builds resilient. changes builds reserve. it is a new way of thinking about how we improve the brain. >> my last one, there is lots more in the book. but i want to get to one because it is a reminder that no pain, no gain. probably the single best thing you can do for your brain is

exercise your body. >> this is probably the most evidence proven thing when it comes to brain health. it surprises people because you think of intellectual activities to improve your brain health. i understand that. but we know now over the last couple of decades you can grow new brain cells at any age. the best way to make that happen is movement. the human body wasn't designed to either sit or lie for 23 hours a day and then get up and go to the gym for an hour. it is consistent movement. and the evidence actually shows that a moderate activity like a brisk walk is perhaps even better than intense activity because with intense activity, you are also releasing a lot of stress hormones that may be counter productive. brisk walking as one neuro scientist said to me can release miracle grow for your brain, which i thought was really

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now, it is true that in raw numbers the u.s. administered the greatest number of vaccines so far. but it has only administered five shots for every hundred people in the large, diverse and spread out population that is america. that's by thursday, according to cdc data. that percentage peals in comparison to smaller countries, all of them with existing, universal and publically funded health care systems. topping that ranking is israel, where by friday 38 doses have been injected per hundred people, 38% according to government data. yes, that country of 9 million country is tiny compared to america, but it is about the same size as new york city, which only managed to administer 6 doses per 100 people as of thursday. there is disagreement over whether ez ray yell also has a duty to vaccinate the palestinians in the west bank in ga sarks a.

it has not done so, citing different bits of international paperwork, pointing to the other as responsible. the united arab emirates is next with 23 doses per 100 people as of friday. they are small and have a universal health care system. but rather than relying on that nationalized system to pinpoint the most vulnerables and vaccinate them, the vaccine is available to all adult citizens or residents on a walk-in basis on nearly 100 sites across the united ar dd arab emirates. the uae hopes it will keep supply up and avoid any kinds of lockdowns. because they are an absolute monarchy, it can control the flow of information about the vaccines and silence nay sayers. the u.s. is not the only nation looking to scale up some versions of these nations

political success. last week india began one of the most ambitious vaccination efforts, reaching three million of the countries most exposed or vulnerable by august. while some rural infrastructure is lacking, india that has the infrastructure in place, known as the world's pharmacy, india manufactures 60% of all the world's vaccines. although it lacks the centralized system working in favor of those two middle eastern countries, it does have a vaccination in place that reaches 35 million a people a year. they conducted dry runs across the country in the weeks leading up to the roll-out. india did not meet its stated goals of getting shots into arms. though it is picking up speed, this puts it at speed with other nations. if the lessons are any

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