sorry, we ran out of time with breaking news about the marnlry taylor greene immediating. breaking news continues with chris cuomo. >> we'll pick up the news about what republicans decide to do. i'll do my best impersonation. thank you very much. i'm chris cuomo. welcome to "primetime". it's my argument to you all of you have to worry about the gop crisis what it's your party or not. why? with of to know if this party is going to try to return to the likeness of lincoln or continue to court forces that are many akin to the man that killed him. because that's what these

extremists and conspiracy cultists are about -- an mouse and violence. for a party that is consumed with division, with defining us versus them, welsh here's your chance. us are those who live under the laws and intolerance of one another. this is them. do you see them? do you see what they did? this is the only them to worry about in american society. so as we watch a party in search for its soul, the answer is cloudy because we already know what the man who many of them feel loyalty to, the former president, wants to become of these people and from them. he's on trial for his incessant incitement for the rangry to tae action, to fight for the

election to be overturned. before anybody trying to make it about something else, remember this -- remember what you are seeing. we have never seen anything like it. it is the worst, period. and they are our worst, period. too many have hidden from the truth about trump's intentions for too long. january 6th was the price of that. the same people who are silent about january 6th and why it happened are now also quiet as a qanon kook rises in their ranks. think about that. tonight we stop, and we must remember january 6th and the disaster let loose on our democracy. one of the heroes of that day is about to be post hue mousily

honored. he's going to be lying in state, lying in a position of honor tonight at the u.s. capitol. he valiantly fought an armed trump mob nearly four weeks ago. his family arrives soon with his remains. why is this the first commemoration tonight of january 6th? back in 1988 we had two capitol officers that died trying to stop a gunman. everybody was on board then, everybody talked about it and why its significant was so great. not now. why didn't the death of this officer cause the outrage in the gop ranks of so many others? we on this show will not allow the capitol attack to be forgotten. i will carry the ceremony for you tonight. every time there's a moment there, we'll go to it so we can share it and remember it. now, one of the strongest voices in the house republican caucus tonight is making a stand.

and we'll have him on the show to talk about his party and what is going on and what this night should mean for all of us. we're exactly one week out from the trial of the accused in inkrinciter of the insurrection. president trump is singularly responsible for the violence and destruction, personally responsible. as for the nine house impeachment managers and their 80-page brief. incitement of trump, they argue, that went on before january 6th by baselessly claiming the election was stolen from him. the response? take a look at this -- his people can't even spell united, let alone make the case this president was anything to do with properly leading the united states of america. oh, just a typo. no, not on something of this magnitude you make a mistake on

page one. and they didn't just do it once. they did it twice. maybe it's freudian they can't even spell united because the word bear not seresemblance to anything the former president was about. here's their argument -- there's no basis to say the claim on which trump's claims were wrong. really? the lawsuits, the members of the states that are republicans and democrats, congress certifying the vote -- there's no basis for saying that he's wrong? remember, it's not just about him and his mouth. it's the reality of who and what remains. a party that is acting more like a game. many, too many being more careful about how they speak about a qanon kook in their ranks than trump in the primary. listen to senator lindsey graham. >> are these postings accurate? i want to hear from her.

before i judge what to do about her, i want to know what the facts are. >> he knows the facts. she literally walks around with a camera taping herself spewing vile, and he knows it. this is the same guy that said trump was hell bound. remember that in didn't seem to show any hesitancy about him. he can't just act, ignoring the reality of half of everything in congress. doesn't work. so we have to pay attention. democrats erarn a spot. they are forced to decide, do we return to sanity or do what is right on their own? one of the most influential voices is senator joe manchin of west virginia? what does he think of this moment we share tonight? of what is right coming out of tonight? and what would be the way forward to get people the help

they need? the senator joins us now. sir, welcome back to primetime. >> good evening, chris. h how are you? >> why do you think it's important to have the remains of officer sicknick and for it to be something all elected officials recognize? >> it's a day we must never forget, and it's a day the officer's family will never forget or recover from. he'll always be lost to them. it's such a sad scenario, but when someone basically gives their life defending our democracy, or capitol, and defending each one of us who were in there, the government. we were the government that day trying to do our job, do what we're taxed to do. here's a man who stood there and gave his life. it's important we pay respects and never forget him or his family. >> who do you make sense of the fact that republicans and democrats were equal that day?

you were all being hunted, and yet on the basis of party, if you're a democrat you talk about what happened on the 6th and who did it and what it should mean. on the right, the silence is eerie. >> i'm very hopeful -- you've got to be optimistic and hopeful the good people in the grand old party will take back their party. i've always gotten along god with everybody and tried to have good dialogue and differents and try to work through our differences. it was always a good input. but right now they're muzzled. they don't know what's going to be lurking ahead, if they're going to be primaried, if something's going to come after them imfeel sorry for a lo of my friends caught in this situation. there's a lot of good people and they just need to speak up. the worst thing that can happen is you can get defeated and that is not a big price to pay for your integrity and soul. >> yet here you are now, the at democrats have to figure out the way forward.

ideally it would be nice if both sides could make deals and have progress, be quick bum this isn't going to be as fast for the democrats as people seem to suggest if they go it alone. what's the chance you can get a significant number of republicans to sign on to a relief package now? >> chris, i've always believed -- i really thought that this was wrong for us the go down this path but i respect the president's decision. he said, joe, we've done this before. back in 2013 trying to pass the affordable care act. eight, nine months we dealt in good faith, and at the end of the day no one was there for us. so i respect and appreciate that. i still think there's republicans that will come to a responsible, reasonable agreement. i was very, very encouraged that the first meeting he had with any congress, any members from

senate or congress was ten of my republican colleagues for over two hours in the white house two nights ago. that was tremendous. i can tell you they were so appreciative. just what a breath of fresh air to see some civility and respect that that office really has. and it's -- i've got good hope. i really do. we have to -- i've said this, mr. president, i want you to know and aye told my side of the aisle we're going to do this in a bipartisan way. chuck schumer said on the floor this will be done in a bipartisan way. i can assure you that. we're not going bust a filibuster. we're not going to bust the burden rule that protects the filibuster. we're going work with each other, like it or not. >> remind people what the bird rule is and why reconciliation wouldn't be all one-sided. >> the bird rule keep you in the mid of the road. you can't go too far left, too far right. it's a budget reconciliation.

>> cedric richmond told me last night, biden senior official, told me, no, no, no, doesn't apply. this is not about the budget. this is all emergency spending. none of that applies to reconciliation would be fine. is it not that simple? >> not on our side. i don't know about their side. i don't know what rules they operate and work under. our side there will be call to the chair. the parliamentarian will be called to rule. does this go through the bird rule? the bird rule basically says it has to be within the budgetary means. people try to expand that, i'm sure, but then the chair will be called on, the procedural, the parliamentarian. she'll make a ruling based on the rules. they can challenge that and then there will be a vote on that. >> how many votes do you need to beat the parliamentarian? >> 51. >> so it's a simple majority.

>> trying to protect the rules of simple majority. >> i know we're early in this process butu being defined by it. but for joe manchin. we respect joe manchin. is joe manchin -- not to speak of yourself in the third person, but are you on an island here, or do you feel you're speaking for other democrats in the senate? >> there are others. there really is. maybe they're not -- my ten-year voting record puts me where i am, and i think i'm the most centrist person in congress voting not middle. i've always said, if i can go home to my beautiful state of virginia, if i can explain it i can vote -- if it makes sense, it makes sense, if it doesn't, it doesn't. i always tried to operate under those rules and i'll continue to. i told my friend in the democrat caucus, i said, i'm not going to

proceed unless we do it in a bipartisan way. there's no reason for us -- the president of the united states knows my position on this. i respect him. i consider him my friend. i want him to succeed and do extremely well, and i think he will. he has the demeanor for it. and he has definitely the knowledge and experience for us to come together and work together. as much as humanly possible. if anybody can bring us together, it's joe biden. he's the right person, right time, right place. >> so you probably noticed, especially for me, i'm not going after what happened with you and the vice president down there -- >> that was a mistake. that was just a mistake. >> here's why i'm not even going there. i want this process to be the best it can be and give it best chance on both sides to happen fast before it gets ugly. i know this isn't over. you are welcome hear to discuss where this winds up and why, and what it means for you and the rest of the country voting.

you have that opportunity. >> chris, i appreciate it. there's a lot of rules and structures we have to work within, and you have to respect that. and with that, i'm sure they'll be pushing their limits because everybody has pent-up aspirations. i understand that. but i am going to defend the seat to my dear friend, the late robert c. bird. he gave his life. i explained it this way -- i said, hey, joe, why do you think we have two senators for rhode island and california? why would we have a government like that? why would we have a part of the congress for -- no matter how big, how small, same representation? no difference in the filibuster, no difference in the bird rule they named after me? so we can protect it so people can't go around it and destroy it. i'm going defend robert c. bird's legacy and the senate. >> you're going to have head winds coming your way. we'll see how it plays out. be well, senator. >> thank you, my friend, thank you chris. we are on watch.

we have been watching in the control room. we're starting to see the authorities come, the officials are coming. they're getting ready for something we haven't seen since 1988, okay? that was when you had two capitol police officers lost in the line of duty trying to stop a gunman from entering the capitol. since then -- this was january 6th. this wasn't a one-off, wasn't a rogue person, wasn't a lone wolf. this was a group, a mob that came to attack our democracy, and it is shocking, the silence about this. this is the first time we have had a commemoration tonight. why? why isn't the talk that knitted us back together? we'll take every moment of this. you'll see what happens tonight so that we can remember january 6th. also tonight, we have news about the covid vaccine. okay? there's been a big piece of news about how you can get the

vaccine. and the big piece of news come out of the uk about concerns about what the vaccine actually protects against. but pharmacies are going to be huge. why? we're all comfortable going to the drugstore. we trust the pharmacist. in fact, most people trust the pharmacist more than the doctor. but like everything else in the pandemic, it hasn't been simple. we're lucky tonight. we have the chief medical officer of one of the chief players. walgreens. played a big role, about to play a bigger role. what are the realities? what are the challenges? next.

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first let's remember where we came from, and then we'll talk about where we're going specifically with the pandemic. we're waiting on officer

sicknick's remains to show up with his family. this is the first time we commemorate what happened on january 6th. part of the shame is how quickly one could forget what happened and why it happened. capitol police officer brian sicknick lost his life that day. others did, too. but he was in the line of duty. he was protecting men and women who were being hunted who now almost deny the existence of that day, but more importantly, its significancesignificance. but we won't. we all know the adage, if you don't learn from history you are doomed to repeat it. january 6th was not another protest go wrong. it was orchestrated and indicated by a lot of ugly language to do exactly what they did. they didn't attack a store front. they attacked the sacred space of our democracy with an intention to stop the election

process, to stop the certification, to stop our democracy. and those forces are alive and well, and now online with all new feeding sources because they have been put into the political dialogue by our former president. and they're radicalizing online at a rate we have not seen before, just ask the men and women in charge of keeping us safe. so tonight we'll remember. we're going wait, see if the president shows up, who comes. the commemoration, the solemnity of the situation, the pain, the significance. because that's how he learn. how they speak, and how they don't matters. now, what else matters? what this administration is going to get us to a better place. it's all about the vaccine. now we have variants versus vaccine. we're going to take on both parts. here's big news that came out today -- beginning next week, the federal government is going to ship vaccines directly to

thousands of retail pharmacies all across the country to begin phase 2, okay? walgreens, cvs, rite aid. white house officials caution it's going to take time before every major store can get it. cvs, they're going to get about 250,000 doses next thursday to vaccinate across 11 states. it's not that much. walgreens expects around 170 doses to distribute around 13 jurisdictions. so how soon will this make a difference? and what is the role of the pharmacy in this? why is this the best way? let's get answers from walgreens' chief medical officer, dr. kevin van. good to see you, sir. >> chris, good to be on the show, thank you. >> can wall greens and oh big chains hand this will mandate from the federal government to start moving into phase two?

what does this mean for you? >> you know, it's important, chris, to know that we don't start from scratch here. we have been building the vaccine prom for the last ten years and we've got infrastructure. this is a big deal. we started with phase one. that was the long-term care facility, and now we'll be receiving vaccine directly from the federal government, and then the idea is that we'll take that vaccine and we'll go into vulnerable communities that really need it most. >> the pharmacies found their way into the federal government -- because this is an opportunity for you to get into revenue streams. what is the reality for wall greens and why you're involved? >> that is inaccurate. this is not a commercial play. we were collaborating with the federal government around testing and, thiey knew if they collaborated with us, worked tonight on the vaccine program we would be able to be

successful buzz of our footprint. our instinct was we wanted to lean immediately into our stores. instead, the federal government, ows said, look, 40% of the pandemic deaths occur in the long-term care facilities and that's where we need to start. so quite honestly, that for us was a steeper mountain, but we talked about and it decided it was the right thing to do. not the easy thing to do, but the right thing to do and that's why we started there. >> instead of doing it in the stores where we have the infrastructure and you know how to do it you went into the long-term care facilities. wound up being two interesting things. what did you find versus what you were told of the reality in those places? let's start there. what did you find? >> yeah, well, look, when we went after -- when we went into these long-term care facilities we had to estimate how much vaccine we would need. the idea was we wanted to have

more vaccine. the worse-case scenario would be we didn't have enough to vaccinate. so we knew we had more than necessary. when we got there, what we learned was the occupancy of the facilities is much less than we thought, and not only the vaccine hesitancy, particularly among the employees was high. just yesterday the cdc reported it was as high as 60%. so very quickly we found we had excess vaccine. we did two things there. number one, we pushed vaccine to the next eligible clinic. and then we let the states know, we don't control the vaccine. they do. and we said to them, do you want us to vaccinate based on your eligibility, or do you want to vaccine back? chris, if you ask any state you'll find that is in fact the truth. >> when we talk to the governor of utah he said, we have to go there. he said i'm coming with the national guard and you can give

to it me. was that the nature of the relationship, were you trying to horde vaccine? >> that's the last thing. like i said, we found ourselves in the situation where we had more vaccine than we needed. the last thing we would ever do is hold it. immediately what we did was get in touch with the states to make sure we were compliant with their wishes. walgreens does not determine who gets vaccinated. we're the last mile of this. we're the ones who actually distribute and administer it, but only based on state eligibility. >> something interesting happened today -- there was a report off ohio that there was a problem with storage, a mishandling because of the temperature sensitivities and that you guys are putting it out there that this happened. that's an unusual degree of transparency. so i want to exploit it. how difficult is it to handle this cold chain, and how likely are problems? >> let me pick up on that point about transparency, chris.

from transparency comes trust, and that is one of the most important things we can build as we work our way through this program. so transparency means that you have to call balls and strikes. in this particular situation -- and i'm learning more about it -- it would seem our systems failed. we're trying to figure out what happened there so that we can protect it from happening again in the future. importantly, none of the patients who received vaccine were injured, and we quickly got in touch with the manufacturers, and learned we have to revaccinate those people. but again, it's important to realize, this is a tricky process. this cold chain takes a lot of -- i mean, literally it takes cryogenic gloves. these things will happen. we have to be transparent and fix them. >> i have been hearing about a lot of things happening. what was shocking is you guys didn't deny it. we're coming off the phase where everything was a lie, everything

was denied. at least i didn't have to chase you down about it. if you can fix it, great. it will be instructive for other people handling it. in terms of what you learned about how complicated this is -- when we look around there's always different rates. no one can seem to get the supply. it seems like state by state there's always a different story. what did you learn? >> well, the importance thing here is that we actually do learn through the process and that we give the feedback so we can fix it. one of the decisions that was made early was to allow all of the states and jurisdictions to have autonomy over how they wanted to determine eligibility. well, you know, instead of having one stakeholder for wall gr greens, now we have 56. now we have to work with 66

different stakeholders to make sure that we're doing the right thing. now, that's not 66 times for difficult. that's some power of it. >> i get it. >> what i would say here is simplicity will equal speed. >> i appreciate you being transparent. you have a platform to make the case of what you're seeing that works and what needs to work better it's going to be vaccines versus variants. dr. kevin ban, good luck at wall greens and thank you for being straight with us. >> you this, chris. >> all right, be well. all right, this is the moment tonight, and we have to live it together. we see that we have had the vehicle drive up. and the family is coming with the remains. the officer was catastrremated they're bringing the remains to be any way position of being memorialized for his sacrifice. you see officer assembled on their bicycles. again, we haven't lived a moment

like this since 1988 when two officers were loss in the line of duty trying to stop a gunman from entering the capitol. but this was no lone wolf. that's why you're seeing it being treated we solemnity it deserves. there's several different phases and i want you to see each one of them. let's just listen and watch for a few moments.

>> while we wait for the officer to gather the remains and the family and make their procession up into the capitol, let's bring in charles ramsey and david gregory to reflect on why we're doing this and why it matters. chief and commissioner, you've held so many positions in law enforcement. you know the force down here well. why does this matter so much tonight, and why does it demand this kind of attention?

>> well, it's part of the healing. it means an awful lot to the family of officer sicknick, but it also means a lot to the men and women of the u.s. capitol police and across the country. for an officer to lose their life in the line of duty, there is nothing that's more traumatic to a police agency than that. and of course january 6th was something that all of us need to remember. and not forget. and this officer died protecting the lives of our country, of our members of our congress. and he should be paid this kind of tribute. >> david, i can never -- i can't remember another time that something like this happened and there was such quiet on half the political aisle, let alone when you add the fact that many of them were being protected by officers like sicknick that day. and yet this is the first time

weave commemorated the occasion. there's very little talk of what was wrong and what was learned from it. first i can think being treated this way. you? >> well, i think there's certainly agreement of the solemnity of the night, of the occasion, and the sadness and the horror of the day. i think where it quickly devolves and descends is who's to blame, what's to blame, how do we hold those accountable? and you look at the backdrop of this capitol where, you know, this occasion is a time to lift up someone who died in the line of duty. and yet the political overtures, the political duties, kind of overtake it in a way that can cheapen these moments. as the commissioner just said,

it's a reminder there's so much scrutiny of officers. that's also appropriate. what's also appropriate so to celebrate police officers, doing their job, protecting institutions like our united states capitol. and in this case, officer sicknick losing his life. >> in defense of the lawmakers and the cradle of our democracy, something like anything we've seen since 1812. you just saw the officers arm in arm with the sicknick family and now you see the officer carrying the remains of officer brian sicknick, lost in the line of duty at the u.s. capitol on january 6th.

>> you see that this is a very

elaborate ceremony. there are so many officers there. the family was at the top of the stairs of the capitol, arm in arm with other members of the capitol police as brian sicknick's remains were moved from the hearst and walked up. a flag folded behind. now you see the detail coming out to escort him in where he will be revered and remembered as a fallen hero in the line of duty protecting not just the cradle of our democracy -- that would be more than enough, but our lawmakers who are inside its walls. this is where the officer's remains will be. people can come to remember, to think about what january 6th took from us, and what should be learned from it.

>> let's bring in congressman adam kinzinger, republican illinois veteran. always good to see you, congressman. >> you too. >> ordinarily when we're

commemorating and memorializing people who die in the service of the this country, i talk to you about your own service. you play a different role now. you were being protected by this capitol policeman, and i tell you, i have to apologize. i didn't hear you tell the story of your experience that day until recently. i should have thought to ask you about it. and it is really frightening, brother. i am sorry that you had to get to the point where you felt you had to arm yourself and think, this may be it. after the events ended, what changes in you in terms of what you carry forward about that day? >> yeah, i mean, it was a day that there was so much confusion, obviously, but a day when you look back and the dust settles, you just wonder how you got here. you look at the mess of the capitol, the anger and the pure evil that was being yelled, that was being shouted at these officers, you know? i recently talked to one of the

offices there and he basically relaid the story to me. he happens top a metro pd. they pushed like 800 of them here. they protected democracy as well. he talked about masses of humanity fighting each other, that it was medieval. nobody went to work that day thinking it would end up like that. democracy can change. i think it's important tosh democracy can help. we did our votes that night. democracy helped. and it's a wakeup call to just how fragile it could be. >> it's interesting. while you're speaking congressman -- i just want you to know what we're seeing. we saw the congressional leadership enter. i saw pelosi, mccarthy, the speaker of the house and minority leader i saw sunny hoyer, another senior democratic member of ranks. senator schumer.

and now here come the remains. let's honor this with quiet as they present officer sicknick in the capitol.

>> all right, the shot's going to come back of what's happening inside and when it does, we'll bring it to you. congressman, we're watching the solemnity of this and the leadership coming together to remember what was, and yet the reality outside these walls is a complete division. i've never seen on occasion like this almost denied by half of the political membership, where

they don't want to talk about january 6th, we should move on. who really knows what it was? it gets complicated with impeachment. it's not complicated. there's nothing complicated about what's happening in the party. the shocking part is that you're among such a small number willing to take risk. i don't understand why this is so risky for to you stand up and say, hey, i'm a republican. the party of lincoln, not john wilkes booth. qanon is not for us. the people there we have to deny them loudly. we're not about them. why is this a challenge for you? >> i think we've forgotten the art of leadership or how to lead. leadership isn't always figuring out who the polls say and doing whatever we need to do get elected. it's sometimes leading out in dark moments, calling out things like qanon or saying the idea of election being stolen is false. it's not real. it's difficult to say that because you're going to have to

take some immediate blowback, but this lesson from this, which is a painful and tragic and costly lesson is, if you continue the not tell people the truth, they eventually believe totally off the wall things and will find themselves being motivated to go into -- as an example, the united states capitol. an officer is murdered. close to 100 officers injured. and destroy the place and try to say it's the equivalent of what happened last summer or anything like that. it is so incumbent on leaders to call out these dark divisive conspiracies and just look with a sober eye and say, how did we get here and how do we get out of here? we have to do that. >> did you ever think it would be as a member of congress where you'd have to pull your side arm and think about defending your life about people coming to kill you for what you represent? >> i never would have imagined having to do it here. and there was a period of about a half hour where, you know, i thought the whole place had been

breached and you know that i was going to have do that. thankfully the officers fought, some to the end a their life. two, you know, took their own lives in the aftermath. but defended democracy and fought this mob and did so honorably. because democracy is not just worth defending for them. they found it worth -- brian sicknick found it worthy to give his life for. and we have people that are scared to sit around and give their career for the same cause. i'm not sitting here saying everybody has to be a hero at all times, but something basic like doing the right thing or telling your constituents the truth should be the really basic part of a job. >> i have been going light on the language on the war within the party. i call it an identity crisis. lindsey graham on the senate side, they were tougher about donald trump in the primary than they're being about an open qanon supporter. and you're putting together your

own effort now to kind of reestablish principles. we hear there's a meeting with mccarthy and maybe other people to talk about her fate. i mean, what do you think happens in the party with her and in general? we're in a split screen with the capitol and it seems to be an occasion your party can't get away from fast enough. >> i don't know what the future holds in terms of this. i'm going to tell the truth. we have to remember where we came from and remember how the lead and be honest. we need a healthy democratic party and republican party. but where we're at now, this isn't just about winning the next election, because honestly if we continue down this path there's not going to be a next election because the whole thing is going to implode. it's a wakeup call for some. i hope there are some being quiet and will stand up soon. it's about painting a optimistic notion. the base voter love their

country and believe donald trump was the person to lead the country, we all need to step back. look at what happened in the capitol. look at the lies that were told. we need the say, we can still hold an our principles. if you tell the truth, it's easy. you don't have to track your lies. >> you are not a big mouth. you're not a loud guy. you're not about histrionics. the only time i've seen you wide eyed was after you escaped and went unscathed and went back to do your work, which was so brave -- a little reckless -- so soon after the incursion, to see so many people stand up and say, i support the lie, i support the big lie. i don't want to certify the election. that's when i saw you get loud and proud about what was going on around you. how did you understand it then in the immediate aftermath of what you had to survive? >> i was shocked.

to go down there and see people automatically -- already say they know for a fact now this was antifa and to try to sweep this under the rug and still vote to desertfy these election results -- the lie about the stolen election was one thing, but not learning this lesson after january 6th is what's compelled me to speak out even stronger because it's like, look -- i mean, again, brian sicknick, this hero gave his life for democracy. we have to be willing to at least make ourselves politically uncomfortable to tell people the truth at least. >> you think there's a chance the party decides not to be about progress and do an obama move? you think there's any chance? do you think the democrats are going to have to go through reconciliation, go one way is this. >> i think there's a chance, but it takes honest real conversations.

that's why i'm doing what i'm doing. the country first movement is just being honest with people. am i going to be overly hopeful? i don't know. but being a loyal opposition is a good thing. you can oppose stuff. but being loyal to our country above even any loyalty to your party is what we need to get back to. this democracy will be frustrating for some people, but it will function and work again. >> i'm just hearing in my ear, congressman, the president left in a motorcade from the capitol to the white house. he's coming to the capitol. we're awaiting his arrival, and we'll show it when he comes. it's important for him to be there tonight. and it's important for to you stand up for what you think is right. just a reflection for the times, it makes sense somebody's going to primary you from an extreme part of the fringe. that you had to expect maybe any way. but is there pressure within your own family about what you're doing right now?

>> my immediate family is great, but there are some cousins and my father who sent a certified letter that said i was in the devil's army and a whole bunch of other stuff and doubled down about a week ago with another certified letter reaffirming their belief. this is the kind of thing -- i laugh about it because it doesn't bother me. i have been doing this job and standing up for a while, but it's indicative of what's happening in a lot of families, people that ascribe to qanon or take politics higher than any bond with family. that's what we've got get away from. it's tough to survive that. and this is a human moment tonight. brian sicknick gave his life to defend daughter or son demodemo -- democracy. i'm not naive that this is going to be a game changer. but z i hope -- stood up to defend your right to have an opinion, we have to see the

humanity in everybody. i think we lost seeing humanity in the other side. that's a problem. >> the devil's army and then attacking the capitol this way and that we were saying -- this is the kind of stuff you defended the country from abroad and that i was able to report on with the protection of men and women like you abroad. i've never seen anything like this in the mainstream in america. and my concern is listening to the people at the intel agencies as i know that you have much be better access. they're worried these people, these extreme groups have been entered into the bloodstream of our dialogue and are radicalized like never before online. i don't think this is a -- >> i'm worried about that, too. part of that is we have not been pushing back early enough, aggressively enough, openly enough. i worry about what's happening. but i think the more that the people stand up say something --

if you're buying into the idea that the government is one by pedophiles, satan himself -- the best way to disinfect an infection is with sunlight and openness and honesty and optimism, and i think we ned more of that. i think we need more of respecting each other as people. it's not going happen tomorrow. if we can just start to move that ship that way, we have a lot to be proud of in this country. we have a lot to be optimist, about. >> 100%. 100%. but, boy, we should have gotten a little bit more of a wakeup call sooner than we have. we've known each other for a while. i'm not a left right guy, i'm a right wrong guy. adam kinzinger, be safe. i'm assuming the holidays will be at your house this year given the state of play in your own

family. you and the family are welcome at my house, just bring a h helmet. >> all right, brother, thanks. >> god bless and be well. >> you too. >> a little bit of levity so we're not crying all the time. because this is so sad what we have been living through, ands the our own fault. nobody did this to us. we're doing it all to ourselves. and we see it all around us. the pandemic, we're making ourselves sick. we're fighting over what we can do to protect ourselves. our politics. we're making ourselves sick. we're making people so angry out of self-interest, and it's so obvious, and yet it can't be called out and defended on the basis of party and leads to what is on the split screen now. not since the war of 1812 has any faction dared to the come to the cradle of democracy. and it was done by our own people. confederate flags and ugly

material in that place that had a no business in a house of secular truths and law and a democracy. but these were americans that did this. and they did it as a battle cry against their own. and now we have half a political spectrum crying about it. we should move on. it hurts unit if you dwell on this. i've never disagreed with something more. how are we to heal if we don't acknowledge what was wrong, why it was wrong, and who did it? i can't believe the same men and women who were being hunted turned around and wanted to forget who was coming after them. and that's why tonight matters, and it matters that we're together for it. brian sicknick was one man who touched many and put his life on the line for men and women he didn't even know. his whole family now is without and will always have a hole.

we can't even agree it's got to be remembered as a low point and we've got to come to a better place after? that's why it's so important he's lying in a position of reverence and that, you know, we have political leaders in there -- i know on occasions like this there's a temptation to say, leave politics out of it. this is all about politics. well, leave it for now. now just say nice things. no. it's time for truth. if you're going walk in this room, represent the solemnity. fight for the things you think are represented in -- that's leadership. that's what we need. and there's our president. we need him very much tonight to be at this event, to lead our intentions. and not under a veil of his add mans not to be there and not liking it and being forced and kind of agreeing with the bad

side of a situation. it has to be clear again. not the policies, but the principles. we have to about us and them, us being patriots and them being traitors and people who will try to destroy us. and this is a hard time to come into a position of leadership, but hopefully all the experience that joe biden has lived personally and professionally will come together in a mix to make for the right man in the right moment. because we are so desperate for leadership. so here is the president. first time since the 1980s that we have had capitol officers being commemorated this way for losing their lives in the line of duty. then it was one shooter. now it was a mob. 1998? i think i said 1988 earlier. i'm sorry if i did, and i was

wrong. but look, here we are now. and we've never seen anything like this before. this wasn't a lone wolf. this wasn't one deranged person who had access to a weapon. this was a mob who came with deadly intentions. let's watch and let's listen .

>> the president, if you're just joining us now for the pigbig show -- brian sicknick who lost his life