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character. it is what you do when no one is watching. i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. that quote is widely attributed to the john wooden. and it was on full display this week in washington. on wednesday, capitol police officer brian sicknick lying in honor in the rotunda where on january 6 victim of an attempted insurrection, an attempt to overturn the election result. and one of the spreaders of the very type of conspiracy that gave rise to his death now herself a number of congress was subjected to scrutiny by her gop colleagues. but rather than being disciplined by her team, she was
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lauded. some even giving her a standing ovation. that same night, a separate inquiry began for a different gop congresswoman, one who thought a president deserving of impeachment for his role in the rioting. as republicans were voting hichd closed doors on whether to remove liz cheney from leadership, i tweeted that house republicans are now voting secretly about liz cheney. that might help her. they have no need to show their beer muscles and can instead vote for what is really best for the party to support her. see, i suspected an nonymity wod provide cheney the security of her colleagues who could vote without fear of the base that elects them. in the end 145 of 211 r republicans voted to keep chafrn any in leadership. 61 against. that is quite a chance.
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in a p have you been vote on certify pennsylvania, 130 voted to object for the state's result. in both cases republicans voted for what president trump hadded a advocated, a challenge to the legitimacy of the vote. the cheney votes i think are inconsistent. think about it, you can't believe the election was rigged but also want to protect liz cheney for her vote to impeach. just imagine for a moment you are a republican in the house, you think the election was stolen. logically if you want to overturns elector ragk ctor al
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you'd be upset at liz cheney. but 138 republicans voted to challenge the pennsylvania certification. roughly the same number 145 who behind closed doors defended cheney. so what happened? in the public vote the members performed where their mission is renomination, they played to the base all 138 of them. because when behind closed doors with nobody watching, and no individual account ability, they voted their conscience, that liz cheney was right and the electoral college challenge was bogus. only 61 disagreed. it was a stunning admission. if the base can't see 138 becomes 61. yesterday democratic congressman tim ryan made this observation. >> teleit was the most inconsis
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thing i've seen in 20 years of being in congress where we live within inconsistency. >> so then came thursday night. the vote by the entire house where republicans refused to clean their own house, it was left to democrats to demand a vote of stripping greene on her committee assignments. again in a public vote, one watched by the base, only 11 republicans were willing to strip her of her commit tid assignments. i specific if they had had the chance to discipline her without the base watching, they would have done it. do you know who gets what i'm saying? marjorie taylor greene. here she is yesterday. >> i hope that my republican colleagues really think about what they have done. i'm sure that they will hear from their voters at home because the base is loyal to president trump and the base has been very loyal to me and she have shown me that. >> it all begs the question of whether this republican fear of
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the gop base is rwarranted. sadly the answer is yes in that a quinnipiac survey, 70% say that they believe there was widespread fraud in the 2020 election. and according to an ox yoes sus axios survey monkey mole, greene is more popular than cheney. but one question remains. while marjorie taylor greene may have lost the short temp battle, will she and her brand of politics win the war? since she failed to police greene from within, she's positioned herself as a martin while attempting to walk back her past xhecomments, she still attacked cancer calling chur and "black lives matter." and she is being awarded financially. gree
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she told the washington examiner that they don't realize they are helping me. i'm pretty amazed at how dumb they are. now with more free time on her hand, greene said that she will boost conservative candidates and former president trump's plans oust so call weak republicans. if she's right, we could see more greenes and fewer dhan notices. bottom line is this, republicans decided to keep everybody in the tent. liz cheney and marjorie taylor greene. and instead of disassociatiing 24e678 themselves from the fringe. they made a calculation that they can't win without people who stornlgemed capitol. you have to wonder, if while watching greene's emboldened presser on friday, maybe kevin mccarthy and company has buyer's
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remorse. joining me now is adam grant, an organizational psychology at the wharton school where s his ted talks have been viewed over 25 million times. he is the author of the just released think again, the power of knowing what you don't know. professor, thanks so much for being here. i find that so much of what write about applies to our political climate. for example, you argue in favor of embracing the joy of being wrong but that seems to be the an tithesis of what our politicians act. >> you know who was a great flip-flopper? abraham lincoln. he came into office thinking if he alabolished slavery, that it
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would tear the union apart. >> and i can't think of a politician who upon reflection and says so faces the public and says i've thought about this more or there is new day it and i have changed my mind. 2346d, you get derided such as second kerry, well, he was against the war before he was for it. >> yeah, i think that this is a cultural problem. there is too much significant made stigma with admitting that you are wrong. if you are committed to being a life long learner, you better, with your believes. >> and there is a discussion about red sox and yankee fans. and i kept thinking abouts and h
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rms republicans and democrats. what can they learn from it? >> we got red sox and yankee fans who had been in their animosity just would iby imagin would you root for a different team if raised in a different city? and we raised to people on the opposite the side of gun debate. and we found that if you are passionate about gun right, but you grew up in columbine, you are more open for the other side. so i think people are constantly encouraging youeveryone to imag yourself in the other people's shoes. but you say if i'm on the other side, what would i believe if i had grown up in a hunting family. probably be a little different. so when i look at the other side, i see that one belief they hold as less essence of who they are. >> isn't part of the problem is
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that there is less and less inter-group contact? for example, members are in essential essentially tuesday through thursday schedule and they follow roughly an old school calendar. nobody relocates to d.c., brings the spouse, has cocktails and so forth. it is all about getting into until to, getting out of dodge and fundraising. but you talk about the value of spending time together. >> yeah, the evidence is just overwhelming on this. in over 700 studies, in 94% of the case, just enter acting with the outgroup is enough to reduce prejudice. there is a recent study that shows when ethat shows if at ca they are in the same bump, they are 15 times more likely to develop a real friendship. so we
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need that to maybe understand each other always little bit. >> i'd like to think that somebody could read your book and get raelected to office, bu i'm not sure. foik for example nuance doesn't seem to go viral. >> yeah, i don't know if there is a simple solution. there is no reason why we can't have politicians running experiments to say i have an idea, it is a hypothesis, i want to test it, and if i find out that i was wrong, then i'll update my beliefs. until we see what happens when a candidate puts that forward, we won't know if that will work. but americans are willing to tolerate this kind of leadership. this is fdr's signature. bold experimentation. try something was his flphilosoy
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and it seems to give us the new deal. >> the book is great ppg. thanks, professor or. what are your thoughts? from twitter, michael, your data and logical approach make great sense. how di this get in there? but people will see what they want to see. welcome to our dystopia. i thought this this was a stunning juxtaposition. these two votes which exposed the fraud of how republicans acted inconsistently when evaluating liz cheney and voting on the pennsylvania results. ed and the only conclusion i can reach is that con was done in a public setting and one was behind closed doors. and if there were more conduct behind closed door, we'd fintsd out what they really think. up ahead, have you heard of the covid slide? sounds like a dance move, but it refers to the adverse impact on
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the pandemic on kids' education. can they ever catch up from the earn willing they have lost? i'm about to speak to a florida state lawmaker who proposes a solution to the covid slide and that is what prompts the survey question. here it is. given the pandemic, should parents have the power to decide whether their kids should be held back a year in school? go to smerconish.com and cast a ballot. not what's easy. so when a hailstorm hit, usaa reached out before he could even inspect the damage. that's how you do it right. usaa insurance is made just the way martin's family needs it with hassle-free claims, he got paid before his neighbor even got started. because doing right by our members, that's what's right. usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. ♪ usaa ♪ you know, malcolm, audible's got more than audiobooks. of course, podcasts. originals. bestsellers.
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clear. kids have fallen behind in their education and there is no covid-19 disaster plan aimed at getting them caught up for example, some houston area school districts report that nearly half of middle and high school students are failing in at least one class. north carolina, a school district 46% of students in grades three through 12 failed at least one class, more than double the rate for the sim period in the fall of 2019. and in virginia, the percentage of middle and high school students who earned fs in at least two classes jumped from 6% to 11%. hit especially hard are children with disacts, though learning english and of course minority children less likely to have appropriate technology and home environments for studying. each family deals with their own you unique fallout and it is for this reason that one florida
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state lawmaker wants to address the so-called covid slide head-on. she's introduced a bill that could give parents the power to decide if their kid should reb repeat a grade. the senator is joining now. how would this work? >> the mechanics of the bill where if you have a student in grades kindergarten through 8th, and if you file a request before june 30th, they can repeat the next academic year without anyone asking any question, they are simply allowed to repeat that next year. >> why the cutoff at 8th grades? >> there is a couple different reasons why. first of all, in high school, the children interact with many more teachers. so there is a lot more eyes on the students to see if they are failing, if they are having
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problems. and the high school students can verbalize and tell people if they are having problems and get the help they need. and also parents potentially wanting to have their child hold back for athletics on to go to the prochl. prochl. so we don't want that situation. and k through 8 are really the ones who have been suffering because they can't verbalize it as well. so we cut it off at 8th grade. >> do you worry that if a student today knew that they would repeat a grade that it is an encouragement to be a slacker from now until the end of the current school year? >> i do, but if this law is even passed, it won't pass until may. so we're not going to have people applying right now. it will not happen in this school year. and i'm also worried that we'll
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have parents who use -- i want to make sure parents understand that that is a method of last resort. we put in the legislation that they cannot change their mind once they have started the school year. so we don't want parents who two months into the year are saying my child is not challenged anymore because they are already did this material. so it is a serious decision and we'll try to give parents information so that they can make this choice. it is a one time choice based on the pandemic and will be pretty much irreversible once they make that decision. >> is this being contemplated as far as you know anywhere else in the country? i went looking for unique responses to the covid crisis, the covid slide. and i found you. i'm wondering, anybody else doing this? >> i haven't heard of anyone. i have to tell you, it was my
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own bill. i did think about it. people would come to me and say what are you going to do about covid and i realized that schools are such a problem right now because of the remote learning and the quarantine and there are specific children who are suffering. so it was my own thought process to file this bill. it has been heard in the education committee in tallahassee this past week and it did pass unanimously. i wouldn't be surprised if other state legislatures pick up the idea, but to my knowledge, this is the only bill of its sort right now in the united states. >> and finally, you may have just anticipated my last question, is it a republican bill, a democratic bill, are there politics already associated with this? >> it is interesting because i'm a democrat, and it is very hard
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in the minority party to get legislation passed. but i think the concept of giving parents control is a bipartisan concept. so i'm hoping that it will not become a political football. >> i'm using your idea as my survey question today. so we'll have an unscientific look at what people across the countrien. g think. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me on. >> so now you understand, as paul harvey would say, you know the rest of the story. soness answer the question, sh parents have the hoyer to decide whether their kids should be held back a year in school? i don't see i'd ydeology in tha question. and vote even if you don't even have kids. from the world of twitter, kids
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are not falling behind, they are learning to survive a pandemic. nancy, i disagree with that. they are falling behind not to least of which are the social dynamics. the conversations about where college kids should be which is different from that issue, i think it tends to focus only on scores and not on social skills and interactions that better fit us for the rest of our lives. but i disagree, i think that they are suffering especially those in lower income predominantly minority communities that don't have what my kids take for granted, which is connectivity and computers everywhere. up ahead, asked about the space force, jen psaki laughed. here so explain and defend the program and its name, retired four star general who led the a air force space command. and when tom brady won in 2002,
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since president trump formalized the united states space force as the 6th military branch, some inside and outside of washington mocked its formation. and it came back into the spotlight this week from the new white house administration. during the tuesday press briefing, jen psaki was asked if president biden planned to kind space force intact.
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>> wow, space force. the plane of today. s it an interesting question. i'm happy to check with our space force point of contact. not sure who that is. i'll find out. >> and hours after, mike rogers called her to to mapologize. in response to the criticism psaki didn't apologize but the tone definitely did change. instead she tweeted support for space force wednesday inviting space force fguardians to come y anytime. a sapsaki says that space forces tasked with taking on serious national security threats frommefrom ed adversaries like china and russia.
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here to discuss, william shelton. he served from 2011 to 2014 as commander of the air force space command, the organization that became space force. general, thank you so much. why is this not a laughing matter? >> well, i think that there are a couple things that resulted in the creation of this space force. one was we are critically depend end on space for both mail taker oper military operations and the american way of life. most of us don't even know when we're using satellites. bust trust me, we are all using satellites almost every minute. and that either i can'ts a little bcreates vulnerability ad that is being exploited by adversaries such as russia and china and they are creating
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weapon systems that would take advantages from space away from us. so to have a service focused on defending our critical assets in space i think is something that became a bipartisan issue in the congress and then of course the president in the last administration was very much behind us. >> you wrote recently for the gazette, this is not a future problem that provides the opportunity for more study and kicking the can down the road. the threats are real. we know successful testing is complete and operational capability exists today in china and russia and development of additional counter space rwiner cont weaponry continues. what worries you most? >> actually the laser threat worries me the most. high powered laser in the center
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of china, very difficult target to get to. but it can sit there acharge an sit sat after satellite and there are critical assets this low earth areare are bit these are on bit these days. >> so where do we rang in terms of our mastery of space for defense purposes? >> we have incredible capability. things like warning of attack for both us and our allies. we have protected communications that on the whoorst day when th president needs to get orders to deployed force, he can get those
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order out over the satellite systems. and we have the gps constellation. so there are all kinds of things that we do uniquely from space. and i think that we are head and shoulders above other countries in terms of our capability to execute those kinds of missions through those con tstellationco. where we need to play up catchup is defending those assets from the attack. >> and so i get the takeaway for me is that space force should be evaluated on its own merits and not in association with a former sx commander in chief. so let's not pass judgment on him and say we should or shouldn't have space force. let's look at it that way. final word is your. >> i think that its very
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unfortunate that it became a bit of a political issue because the need is certainly there. there have been other organizational changes as well. we created the united states space command to oversee the brace operational sird of this. so the space force says that the organizing of units, it does the training of the personnel. and it does the equipping, in other words, buying those satellites. that is the responsibility of the space force. but the deployment of those capabilities is really up to the space command. so there is recognition operationally, equipment-wise, training of people that all needs to come together. >> general shelton, thank you so much. >> my pleasure. thank you. up nerxt, you don't need me to tell you that tomorrow is the super bowl. joining me next, sports casting
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it is so easy to overhype every super bowl, but none lv promising to be like no other, not just because of the quarterback showdown between tom brady appearing in his 10th super bowl and last year's bowl mvp 25-year-old phenom patrick mahomes, but also the big game will be played in front of a decidedly less than sellout crowd, 25,000 fansle in a stadium built for 65,000. plus among them, 7500 vaccinated health care workers interspersed with 30,000 card board cut outs. and the weeknd instead of performing on the field will be on a stage up in the stands. so will it still feel like a super bowl? joining me now to discuss the american sports broadcasting legend bob costas who was
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america's guide to seven super bowls, has 28 emmys and now a cnn contributor. i love the story line of brady and mahomes because even the kashlg fan can suit pd and root for somebody. >> yeah, everything seems to be different in sports and outside sports during covid, but one thing remains the same,s it the super bowl and here is tom brady again. different uniform but for the 1'0" time. a but mahomes is not just a star, is an electric player, came this close two years ago to defeating the patriots. so mahomes is right now and tom brady continues on at age 43 remarkable enough that even five years ago he would have been playing at that level at least based on the history of other
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people at the position. but now saying that it is entirely possible that he will play to 45 or beyond. he is not quite as great as he was by any objective measure, during what people would call his prime, but still more than good enough to get a new team to the super bowl. >> and his age makes him well suited for the age of his coach bruce arians. there is an interesting difference between andy reid's style, bruce arians' style and now this breaking news story from the last 24 hours of a potential distraction for andy reid and the reid family in so far as his son the outside linebacker coach britt reid involved in a bad car crash. >> yeah, more than a distraction. potentially a tragedy. this is what we know at this point. britt reid admitted to police that he had in his words two to three drinks also some adderall, apparently a car was broken
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down, may have run out of gas on the side of the road, this is near the chiefs practice facility where young britt reid may have been working late in preparation for the super bowl. and another car pulls over to help the first car. britt reid is driving his truck. goes off the side of the road. and collides with at least one of the cars. two children in the back ck sea both injured, taken to the hospital. the 5-year-old with life-threatening injuries. and there background here. britt reid had previous convict difficulties with drugs and alcohol. served five months in prison, five year probation after that, there was a road rage incident. and tragically his older brother garrett in 2012 died of a heroin overdose. andy reid is not only one of the most accomplished coaches in the nfl, he is one of the most popular people, but his family life has been marked by tragedy and let's hope this goes no further than what we now know, but the one child is in critical condition. >> boy about, so dam damn sad.
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and on happier nights, two of the best tight ends in the business. >> yeah, rob gronkowski brought out of retirement, again with tom brady, so much success in new england and now in tampa bay, back in the super bowl. gronkowski one ofof the charact in the nfl history. but also his counter part travis kelce putting together his own record. this figures to be a wide open game. earlier this season the chiefs beat the bucs 27-24, i think people are looking for a score at least that high, kind of a shoot-out game. >> and a real sign of what covid's impact has been, the chiefs' barber has become an issue in this week's contest. >> yeah, two chiefs got their hair cut by a barber who turned
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out to be covid positive. so they had to quarantine. they did not test positive. they had to guarantee for five days which kept them away from full practice activities, but they can both play in the game tomorrow. >> is there any such -- >> oh, hold on, you got a shot up there, i wasn't looking at the monitor, the twoen guy, they actually intercepted him, no pun intended, halfway through the hai haircut. it was like get out of here right now. you know, michael, i think this is a look you might want to try. >> who says i haven't tried it in the past. hey, is there any such thing as a home field advantage? you will correct me if i'm wrong. i don't think that an nfl super bowl team has ever played in the super bowl in their hometown, but the bucs have that honor tomorrow. >> yeah, many years ago the rams played the steelers in -- at the rose bowl, so close to a home
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game but wasn't their home stadium. 49ers played the dolphins at stanford, so close by. so this is raymond james stadium, this is the bucs home stadium. and there will be some fan support obviously. 25,000 people there. some are not necessarily bucs fans but the majority will be roots for the bucs i would guess. but i would think the main advantage is they stayed at home during these circumstances. they didn't have to travel. usually both seems come to the super bowl a week before for all the media activity and whatnot. the chiefs aren't even traveling until today. they will arrive in tampa bay today. mean while the bucs have been home for two weeks preparing. >> bob, i was surprised to read that some of the major advertisers have taken a pass on this game. it remains my favorite part of super bowl sunday. and i thought of all years, this is the year when everybody is home and certainly will be
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watching. allege i missing something? that doesn't add up to me. >> you know, i can't quite figure it out. we should say that cbs has sold out all the spots at very high rates. there will be some newcomers, maybe some products that have become -- ofor services that ha become more prominent like doordash. and other big names like bud sizer or coca-cola, they are taking a pass this time and my unzing is that they are directing the funds that they would is have used on the epic interest to tcovid related topics. >> and give me what you are looking for tomorrow. >> moemahomes versus brady. it is simple. that is the story. it has been the story when they
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met a couple years ago in the conference championship game, and so i'm sure it will be the story tomorrow night. >> thank you so much, i really appreciate bob costas being here. enjoy the game. >> thank you, michael. checking in on your social media. i think from the world of twitter, what do we have? in your professional opinion, what color will the gatorade be that is poured on the winning coach. i'm old school. like the classic yellow gold. so that is my choice. when i buy my own at wawa that is always what i reach for. still to come, your best and worst tweets and facebook comments and the final survey results. here is what it is. given the pandemic, should parents have the power to decide whether their kids should be held back a year in school in of everything you've been through. that's why dove renews your skin's ceramides
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and call pg&e right after so we can both respond out and keep the public safe. time to see how you respond to do the survey question this week at smerconish.com. given the pandemic, should parents have the power to decide whether their kids should be held back a year in school? survey says, wow, 83% pretty decisive, of 22,000 and change say, yeah, give them a mulligan. interesting issue, state senator lori burman from florida was here earlier in the program and speaking of how she's introduced this in florida. it would apply to k-8. i'm wondering about the high school years and i get that it's
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complicated because of college admissions and the prom. what came in from social media? smerconish, as an alternative to solving the covid slide instead of repeating a grade, how about having kids continue school through summer? absolutely, i agree with that. i think the biden administration is already on board in looking at that. hopefully the teachers would be. i think it would be incumbent upon them to be, right? but here's an issue. the issue is i think a lot of these, especially lesser funded schools aren't equipped with air-conditioning. i say spend the money, air condition the schools and let them go all the way through. what about the implications this would have on high school sports? this would have a huge impact and an unfair advantage for those kids when it comes to being chosen for intercollegiate sports. that's the point i was making where the senator's proposal only applies to k-8.
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and i think one of the reasons might be that it doesn't apply in high school is exactly what you said. there's a whole redshirt issue that would kick in and perhaps an unfair advantage. another one if i've got time. i like moving at a rapid clip. yes, greene is entitled to her views, but don't throw someone out for that. any fair-minded american should support her. totally agree. here's the thing. because i got a lot of about-about-ism. greene's record, these comments are beyond anything i've ever seen. i've been paying attention for 30 years. that's the difference. see you next week. future bestsellers. sleep stories. mal- hey, no! roxy! audiobooks, podcasts, audible originals. all in one place. ♪ in a year of changes. don't take chances on your taxes.
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